SIMP Paid Her Bills On FIRST DATE?! Feminist Until The Check Comes?! | Dating Talk #120

Date: 2023-11-22

Duration: 6h 45m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CCeleste (DT120)>

NNicole (DT120)>

MMandy (DT120)>

OOxana (DT195)>

JJanna (DT120)>

TTessa (DT120)>

RRaina Zuzunaga (DT120)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Nicole(guest)

SPEAKER_03Raina(guest)

SPEAKER_04Tessa(guest)

SPEAKER_05Tara(guest)

SPEAKER_06Mandy(guest)

SPEAKER_07TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_12Oxana(guest)

SPEAKER_13Janna(guest)

SPEAKER_14Celeste(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteBrian introduces himself as representative of the patriarchy and proclaims men have fewer rights than women.

“men have less rights than women and that is an inescapable fact feminism has failed you how can the patriarchy help you today I am the official representative of the patriarchy”

QuoteOxana (matchmaker) argues that a woman can either build or crush her man through how she handles herself with him; gratitude helps man grow.

“woman always builds man with the right way she handles herself with the man she can either build her man or Crush her man”

ControversyTessa challenges Nicole on the contradiction between calling herself a feminist while wanting a full male provider who pays for everything.

“the two they can they can be parallel so then can I ask you something real quick”

QuoteNicole rates herself a 10 on looks.

“um I'd say 10 yeah there's always been for PR shirt but like I think I'm cute”

QuoteBrian self-rates at 5 due to recent weight gain (down from 6).

“I used to say I'm a six I think now I'm a five because I've gained some weight”

ControversyTessa tells Nicole she came on the podcast undereducated, was back-and-forth and confused, and should think more about what she actually wants.

“I think you definitely came on the podcast today very uneducated um I think you were very back and forth”

QuoteBrian plays Andrew Tate clip arguing men working dangerous jobs do so to provide for their families, not to oppress women.

“when a man gets up at 4 in the morning to go carry garbage to earn a good wage he ain't thinking I'm going to do this so I can oppress that”

QuoteTessa describes meeting her current boyfriend who ambushed her with his entire family on the first Tinder date.

“his whole family including Brothers sisters grandfather grandmother they all”

QuoteBrian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10 on looks.

“starting with you and we'll go around the table go ahead Cece”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & relationship status

Guests introduce themselves; relationship statuses revealed. Mandy is in an exclusive situationship since July 4th (~6 months) but not officially in a relationship.

Who should pay on the first date

Discussion on whether men should pay on first dates. Nicole wants provider; Celeste says whoever initiates; Mandy says situation-dependent. Brian argues against feminist who wants both equal pay and traditional treatment.

Feminism and traditional values contradiction

Nicole identifies as feminist but wants provider husband, traditional gender roles, to be stay-at-home wife. Brian and Tessa challenge the contradiction. Wage gap data presented (payscale, Pew Research).

Patriarchy discussion

Guests define and debate the patriarchy. Nicole claims patriarchy exists as male leadership. Brian rejects it, argues gynocentric society. Janna gives Slavic example of abandoned mothers.

Wage gap data presentation

Nick pulls up PayScale controlled vs uncontrolled wage gap charts, Pew Research Center data on young women's earnings, GDP per capita vs median male income, working hours comparison. Discussion of film industry pay disparities.

Andrew Tate clip - men as providers

Clip of Andrew Tate explaining that men working dangerous/dirty jobs do so to provide for family, not to oppress women. All guests react positively.

Roster / dating multiple people

Going around the table: who has had a roster. Celeste: not now (3 people at ~17-18). Nicole: no. Mandy: situationship (quasi-single). Oxana: had roster before husband. Janna: never hookups or one-night stands. Tara: open relationship dating. Tessa: no. Raina: pursued by multiple but no crossover.

Older men dating younger women

Brian presents list of reasons older men prefer younger women (not manipulation). Mandy raises concern that older men manipulate young women. Brian rejects pathologizing of male preferences.

Sugar daddy discussion

Nicole mentions sugar daddy thing traumatizes women; alludes to personal experience but refuses to elaborate. Brian notes women actively seek sugar daddies via apps like Seeking Arrangements.

Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Guests rate themselves on looks 1-10. Celeste: 10. Nicole: 8 (said 10 initially, walked back). Mandy: 7.5 (8 with humor). Oxana: declined. Janna: 7. Tara: 6-7. Tessa: 3. Raina: 6. Brian: 5 (down from 6 due to weight gain).

What is a woman / transgender debate

Going around table: Celeste says biological woman. Nicole says fine with trans identifying as woman. Mandy says identifies as woman = woman. Oxana: woman is love/care/nurture. Janna: feminine energy, given to you. Tara: open relationship. Tessa: biological only, cites God not making mistakes. Raina: biblical gender differences.

Body count discussion

Body counts: Nicole <5 (declined to specify); Mandy under 20; Oxana declined; Janna <10; Tara: 11; Tessa: 0; Raina: 0. Brian: 11. Discussion on whether body count matters.

Transcript

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Jannagroceries even though I was going to pay on my own uh was that have you seen him again or was that one time not yet it was one time and I was thinking like we

Jannahave 10 years difference you know know um it's kind of significant Gap 10 years younger you're 36 he was 26 26 yes yes

Jannayes but he's an amazing guy I was like wow I told him like a bunch of times and we're still in contact so if someone if someone uh would love to meet this

Jannabeautiful guy amazing guy wait so did he want to go on a second date with you or what happened we texted we texted to him and uh I told him that we can be only

Jannafriends because I honestly told him because of age difference oh yeah wow

Brian Atlashold on wait so you friendzoned him I told him openly I don't say did you tell him this before he um no I

Jannadidn't tell bought you the groceries no no his job wait wait wait wait wait wait that's what he does for work he's a ref it was a date no uh he I thought this

Brian Atlaswas a date no you said you had a date it was a date it was a date absolutely so he you don't have a car he he said I he offered his time anything you needed

Brian Atlasy he you went groc was the grocery shopping was that the first date yes exactly he paid for your groceries

Jannaum he did bunch of nice St stuff that man like wants to do or he wanted and I appreciated it and we talked with him

Jannaand we talked several times with him and we are going probably to meet uh to his church but I honestly uh I talked to him and told him that we can be only friends

Jannafor example if he would uh invited me because grocery was involved I know that was is triggering you but I'm trigger I'm so triggered I understand I she was going to pay for it herself it's fine

Jannait's first it's it's uh um kind of first thing and the second thing it might be only dinner for example right we could only eat with him and uh after that

Jannadinner I could say okay we can be only friends or as a lot of women do they ghost guys or for example like this I don't do this I seriously and very

Brian Atlasopenly give a feedback I have a question for you so the first part of the date did you guys meet for coffee coffee just

Brian Atlascoffee just coffee so how soon into the date did you know like just friends I

Jannadon't know I never uh include this until after the date no until sometimes it uh for example in my kind of Life uh

Jannausually it was like um I always give people chance for example even if uh it was in my serious relationships for

Jannaexample uh we met several times I always Mee some people like maybe three times something like that and then I can understand uh do I want just to go with

Brian Atlasthem just you know but so you went on One Singular date with him he said he'd offer his time for anything you needed on the first date went grocery shopping for you paid for your groceries I don't

Brian Atlasknow maybe that was like 50 100 bucks or something sure he offered it all to get friend zoned exactly you can you this is not dagger in the

Brian Atlasheart get red pill where's the red pill you see this buddy what's his name what's his name Social Services worker what's your name Buddy you see this buddy take the red pill take the red

Oxanapill dude you first date you paid for a groceries bro that's some [ __ ] you pay for dinner and never goes anywhere what's the difference she's going to introduce him to somebody who actually age suitable for him and somebody

Tessabecause she actually he's playing the long game no so then I have a question for you did do you ever feel like you couldn't be in a relationship with him

Jannabecause like you said he helps like refugees or like that that type of thing you said right he's kind of in charge of helping with that and like he he told me

Jannathat when we met for a coffee he told me that oh you know I'm helping refugees oh into the mic please ah yes yes he told me oh you know I'm open uh I'm helping

Jannato the refugees I'm going from my work and I can open and show you what what's going on there yes did that ever like make you feel during that date like like

Jannawhat like am I just someone he needs to help like cuz I know even for me I might be like kind of like oh that's what you do for work no you know I appreciate every nice actions of all the people I

Jannameet in life you know when people want to do something uh nice in any ways yeah I always wow thank you I'm very

Jannaappreciative and in this case he said you know I know maybe what you need and he took off he took out his laptop so it doesn't takeen Brian it could be only a

Jannadinner in a restaurant and people would never see each other so grocery doesn't play anything correct was cheaper than even dinner exactly so you said $41 right $41 so it doesn't count bought

OxanaGroceries on a first that is more appreciated by her than you know taking to a restaurant because he got even if a restaurant's more expensive though I feel like she's eating the meal right there in front of him like it's a shared

Brian Atlasexperience whereas if you're just getting groceries it's like like here's something that you can benefit from down the road like in any case you friends owned him he bought you groceries that's a big L yo I want

Brian Atlasto pull up the chat Nick yo chat I want to hear the chat's thoughts is it an L is it an L for the dude to have bought her

Brian Atlasgroceries I think it's an L what is an L it's an L even if you continue dating him even if you were even if you were still dating him I I think it's still an

Brian AtlasL to pay for groceries on the first date is it still an L chat l in the chat absolutely not in your point of view Brian somewhere back days paying for a

Jannadinner the whole dinner was a lose probably I think but now you're paying for a dinner so the guy basically paid for a dinner oh I don't do dinner dates really anymore it depends though like

Brian Atlasbut here's the thing you date huh no no but like look here's the thing right like I'm with the right girl I'm prepared to you know yeah to to you know hand I'll handle I'll take care of

Jannaeverything will we buy her groc will you get her groceries no you know some people just very kind and they when they see someone they want to help

JannaI in his nature yes I'm I'm myself you know like that I go and helping someone he seemed to be a man who can do something I'll tell you this I'll tell you this though when it comes to the

Brian AtlasChase and all this stuff right I'll tell you this if a girl like let's say she lives in Florida or somewhere she lives uh you know somewhere okay she lives in Florida and she demonstrates a very very

Brian Atlasvery high level of interest in me like a girl who shows high level of Interest Who meets my certain some of my criteria whatever then yeah [ __ ] I'll fly you out

Brian Atlaswhat's up I'll fly you out what's up uh I'll pay for the I'll pay for the date right but but but if I match with some chick on a dating app and she's probably

Jannatalking to a bunch of other dudes I don't I haven't been been able to really vet her that well whatever we can go for it's your choice yeah but it's your choice but some other

Brian Atlaspeople but some other people choosing different things you know I just think it's I think it's an L to good for you but good for you you got some groceries

Brian Atlaslet's [ __ ] is he put the like really good energy out there here the crazy but here's she friendzoned him despite the fact what is a friend zone They still she just friends but she's going to help him to

Jannameet somebody who is more age appropriate for him and you know well why go on the date but you why did you go on the date to begin with because I'm very open and he is a tall handsome uh

Jannasmart guy we talked just uh several times before and I said why no maybe we need to meet I felt really that we have a little in common our H we go to church

Jannafor example boss he is very kind he Tak care takes care about his mother for example he told handsome goodlooking

Jannaprovider takes care of his grandma yep yep so why didn't you go for this you know sometimes chemistry or something

Oxanalike that you know of course age Gap chemistry so you know and I felt that I need don't think about those things when you meeting someone and then you're thinking okay 10 years down the road I'm

Jannagoing to be 46 he's going to be 36 I'm going to be an old woman for him and I don't want to take a time of a person by trying to meet them again again take

Jannaadvantage probably I saw that he's very kind he may might be helpful and help and again again again he was inviting me clear to be clear this is such a red

Brian Atlaspill you friendzoned you friendzoned a handsome tall good guy who said he was prepared to do anything for you who I sound maybe he was going to drive you

Brian Atlasaround I don't know who bought you Groceries on the first date was he Pleasant on the date was he absolutely we talked afterward and you know Brian

Jannasometimes sometimes give me this red pill because I feel I I'm nice I'm nice I'm kind but sometimes guys also don't fall enough with me you know Brian and

Jannasays okay I feel like you're a friend and I'm like what why but it's Li it's life you know it happens it happens and what we can do in this situation is to

Brian Atlasbe honest I would go to a to war for a woman who was attractive short I'm just reversing would you write

Brian Atlasher 25 letters I'm reversing the well I would she bought if a girl bought me groceries bro what's up girl I'm you're mine I can buy you I have foot stamps let's

TTS/Donationsgo tomorrow tomorrow this it will be melodeon donated $100 why didn't you make him dinner with

Jannathose groceries Melania FR chicks already lost to the Western feminists thank you thank you very much for these compliments maybe I will make him dinner

Brian Atlasbecause we still stay in touch you know the point I'm trying to make is that because earlier in the conversation like when we were talking about the you okay Nick um earlier in the conversation when you were saying when

Brian Atlaswe were talking about the guy who wrote the 25 letter and like men shouldn't do these romantic gestures here you have a guy who you admit was good-look tall pleasant good personality it sounded

Brian Atlaslike uh cared about his parents cared about family uh was prepared to like be a provider uh went on the first date to buy you groceries which like that's super wholesome I don't know um that's

Brian Atlassuper cool is it any wonder why men are pulling back and hesitant to do some of

Brian Atlasthese romantic gestures when your friend own the dude that did all those nice things so in my head I'm like I could do all that [ __ ]

Jannaor or hold on I could just be like come over to my place babe what's up you know maybe maybe because you know in your case you

Jannajust I can be nice but I can be not nice so I can to play I can to choose but in his case it's just you know I I a man I

Oxanaam a giver I want to help women Christian man as well so that's like for him to give and help it is engraved it

Oxanais like it is his joy for her to give and help even what whatever she has she doesn't have much but whatever she has it is joy and she will give her last

Oxanashirt to the one who is in more need so yeah so heing is a different type of you know that's just I just think like

Brian Atlasthat's fine I just uh I I can't imagine like doing all that I also like C because you you like guys you do all look again I don't think men are owed

Brian Atlasanything just because they spend money on you or they do anything however I also think if if men are taking actions

Brian Atlaswhich are not leading to uh the furtherance of the relationship then men should perhaps start reconsidering whether it's worth

Brian Atlasit for them to take those actions again so like maybe if if I pay for a first date I don't feel like I'm entitled to anything I don't feel I think it's really weird no really no if I no I

Brian Atlasdon't feel like okay no I'm not entitled to uh because I think that's that's it's it's kind of creepy and weird if a guys's like well I paid for the first

Brian Atlasdate so I'm now entitled to like sex that's that's creepy it's kind of on the edge of almost I don't want to use the word but it's kind of like uh that's pretty skey but if like I was paying for

Oxanaall these dinners doing all these things and then like I'm getting friend zoned what all these I'm I'm going to start thinking all right let me just invite these girls over wanted to pay for those

Jannagroceries herself he insisted he didn't let her you're right he's a s he's a s he's different you know his different uh I'm not saying it's her fault I'm not saying it's your fault it's nobody fault

Oxanait's just he did all these great things and and he feels good that he was able to help someone that's why he he works in a refugee Center and is that where you guys met no okay well here I got

Brian Atlassome other examples just to move on from that one you said another guy drove 150 mil to meet me in my place he brought many nice gifts and took me to Bowling

Brian AtlasExcursion to Nevada City and so onh was that just a onetime date like you only how many time was that a one time thing or yes yes yes yes yes one time thing bro you guys yo look at me look at me

Brian Atlaswhich camera this I'll do this camera I'll do this camera right here y'all are doing way too much hold up I got to I don't know man that sounds like a lot of work hello bro y'all are

Jannadoing way too much walk how about to walk try walk have you guys tried to walk uh maybe just I'm motivating I don't know people to do something you

Jannaknow maybe they just want to spend time nice ly having a girl who admires them or like because I did I don't demand I don't have Leist you know what do with

Brian Atlasme we're missing you Mandy Moore Mandy Moore we need you we need you there's a chat there's a chat coming in yeah Mandy Moore there's a chat coming in that's

Jannaabout you and they got it just kidding okay oh you're butt you're such a butt yeah um so I mean I mean you know it's just in their nature you know I just

Jannameet people who are like that who are saying you know Janna let's go with you somewhere let's do this thing let's do this thing you know but but look at all these you have a list here another guy flyed to you and visited you visited

Jannacool place together you went to Lake Taho and your yep yep yep yep was that a one time thing and then you never talk him one time one time he went to several days because he wanted to see you and he

Jannasaid you know I would love to go there with you here H you know I mean these people I don't know I I don't post any list what of what I need okay and then you have another one one guy invited me

Brian Atlasfor a cool picnic in the park he prepared everything nice food nice plates blanket and just during the day we were sitting in the nice park that's not as elaborate as you know some of this other [ __ ] not as expensive as this other [ __ ] no he bought very nice can

Brian Atlascan I ask your question though was that just a onetime date yeah that was one time days so there's that's four examples of

Oxanaguys doing the most doing all this extra [ __ ] oh [ __ ] all these rules yeah they enjoyed we enjoyed conversation and you

Oxanaask every one of those guys how they feel about uh how it turned up every one of them will say it was great time it is fantastic and they are grateful okay so that's fine but couldn't like if they

Jannahad just met you for coffee I mean that it could have also of course absolutely it can be super cool it was their's idea let's go for pck for let me ask you a question like these guys how many dates

Brian Atlaslike this do they need to go on before finding the one because let's say they go on one date a month and one of these guys flew to you and you went to Lake Taho Yos that's maybe like 1,000 2,000

Brian Atlas$3,000 he does that once a month he's this guy is spending tens of thousands of dollars a month in the pursuit of women in the pursuit

Brian Atlaslike bro my dude have you tried the beach son have you tried the beach just go to the beach what's up girl you want to go to the beach let's go to the beach there's sand we can touch the sand yes it's good you need you need to bring

Oxanasomething look it's good for you you've gotten a bunch of that type of gentleman is not well spoken as you are so it is much harder for him to get to talk English is my second language I'm I

OxanaStumble over M I'm talking about like he's a he doesn't have RZ he's got no you're saying he's got to make up for the lack of RZ by doing this [ __ ] it is not easy for him to communicate kid he

Brian Atlasdoesn't have the experience with women you know no experience almost none I mean if you want to be a little extra and you want go play pool when you're play like go play pool that's so for him

Brian Atlasit is actually a good thing more like practice of dating and understanding and communication and everything yo you dudes spend you guys here I don't know if you're watching probably not but yo I

Mandywill give you the game guys I will give you the RZ I'll give you the Riz I'll give you the Riz okay I think

Mandywhatever I said get rzy Brian show some game I'm the [ __ ] rler let's see I don't think we've seen any Riz yet oh I've rzed have you I've done some Riz no balls you won't do right no balls no you

Brian Atlaswon't do it right now I'll show you balls balls that's disgusting you don't you don't like balls what's wrong with balls you don't eat [ __ ] so I don't want to see your balls I wasn't no I wasn't literally I was not literally

Mandyabout to stand up be like check this out Mandy check it your child would love it bit your child would love it if you did that

Tessathey want they want to see your ball so badly I don't think I don't think so I don't think so I'm not sure about that uh okay chat what check check over a star

Brian Atlaschat for me what it's under the threshold so I took it off um let me see if there's any other chats here I well okay

Brian AtlasI think let me see if there's any other notes um I would just say for all those guys good for you that you you know you got these experiences if they're happy with it hey who am I to judge why are they don't happy because if they uh

Jannaoffered it they got rejected they offered it but they off it is not about only you know H show off in front of a

Jannawoman it's about spending night nicely you know see how it goes here it's not a perfect example but like let's say you had let's say you had sex with guy and

Jannathen he rejected you like he didn't he just [ __ ] you once and then ghosted you H if he dated me two months for example if he dated me two months for

Jannaexample right he told me that we're boyfriend girlfriend and so on and so on uh it will not be possible that he will [ __ ] me once and then say okay bye-bye because uh until then we will be already

Jannain but it's a little different but I imagine like that's perhaps how men feel that's that's why I don't have hookups I'm not interested you know sure okay um I'm just curious like why didn't work

Jannawith any of these guys these guys all did all this extra [ __ ] because I'm looking for my husband the for the person who I would love to spend my life with you know uh there are cool guys

Jannanice guys but you know when you don't feel sometimes you feel kind of that for example with someone you can probably meet uh one more but with one guy we he is out out of country for business you

Jannaknow and we can't meet for example I would love to meet again if he will uh invite me you know and something like that so it's it's about feeling who is

Jannayour person and some of the guys they didn't ask me back for a date which is totally fine you know we're not like

Jannamoney Bank not to be loved by everyone you know it's fine was I sad yes I also was sad you know like you give me red peel please you know kind metaphorical red P wait do you have are

Brian Atlasthere like I know you only provided those those few examples but are there other like you don't have to tell me the details but like have you had other experiences similar to those where these

Oxanaguys are you know maybe getting you a gift or taking you on a trip or doing all this extra [ __ ] um how about asking her if she gives them gifts exactly

Oxanabecause she does I does too on the first date I do too you know okay all right she cannot give much so she would uh uh

Jannaorder something like personalized uh you know and so on so it's okay one guy celebrated um couple of years let's say several

Jannayears sobriety and I ordered him uh a cup personalized cup for coffee um I

Brian Atlasdon't know it just seems like first date it just seems clear evidence that even if you do all this extra stuff it really doesn't like it doesn't work it

Oxanadoesn't work that's why you don't do it the end it's just the beginning she just got here she's just trying to figure even understand the culture and

Jannaeverything you know uh we need all to see I think um dates or something like that or meeting people just as a time uh

Jannathat we spent in a nice atmosphere yeah like with nice people for example you can choose always choose to invite a girl for a dinner or eat alone because

Jannayou don't want to pay for example right sure so but if it's a good company and uh you're enjoyed why to consider this dinner

Jannafailed why maybe you will find friend maybe you will find a partner maybe you will find something else you know I

Jannathink we do put uh too much pressure to this oh I bought her coffee or I bought her a meal oh my God I put

Jannasuch a lot of efforts or no no no coffee is cheaper I you know but you can offer uh this thing and these too and it will not cause any damage in your pocket

Jannaright or she also can pay and bring coffee for you the next day for example right so it is just I believe in kindness and exchange energy exchange if

Jannawe put kind things to people you know they also come up with all these offers let's go there just let's go it doesn't mean that I need to give something back

Jannabut during these meetings I try to you know to show my appreciation my happiness to talk this people to these people deeply sometimes they share

Jannareally hard stories to me about their lives and some of my words of Support also can be healing we all can be healing to each other that that's how I

Brian Atlassee it you know and sure that look that's fine uh I I can only advise my viewers I can speak about my own

Brian Atlasexperience I just I think it's best to you ought to wait until you're a bit more established in the in the same way

Brian Atlasthat women like to wait for example to have sex with a man before or they they want to wait to have sex with a man uh to establish okay are we just seeing

Brian Atlaseach other is this going to be a long-term thing I also think men should perhaps wait to wait a bit before

Jannafalling into being a provider they didn't uh they weren't providers they just for them for them it was natural thing you know for some

Mandypeople go ahead I just um I had a question just kind of I don't know how to face my question but kind of like towards you like how do you expect to not be a provider like at the jump but

Brian Atlasyou expect them to be obsessed and in love with you from the jump oh it's very easy because of my charming ran hit the Crickets hit the Crickets but uh where

Brian Atlasno look again and I am I'm prepared to be with the right woman I'm prepared to be the provider from the jump um also

Brian Atlashowever I will say women who are So Into You There are some women who will be so into you have like so uh what's the

Brian Atlasterm they don't need that yeah like plenty of women will like be so attracted to a guy or just really like [ __ ] with a guy because of his

Brian Atlaspersonality or whatever his humor um maybe his status whatever it may be uh they're just happy to be with him in actuality what I would argue is is that take for example a guy who's really

Brian Atlaswealthy or a guy who's really famous I'm not saying like bro I'm a [ __ ] YouTuber like like I I don't have a big head about this but like take for example I'm trying to think of like a

Brian Atlasmale musical artist that like women are really Styles take like a who's like a I'm trying to think of

Brian Atlasa a big one we I don't know but like I would argue that actually a lot of women like would not have the negotiating power it's I feel like Andrew Tate says

Brian Atlasthis way better w he uses Andrew Tate uses the example of Chris Brown now I don't think Chris Brown is the ideal example here but like

Brian Atlasa lot of women will go and [ __ ] Chris Brown without any expectation that he'd provide anything a lot of them will probably like go above and beyond and you can replace Chris bound with a more

Brian Atlasdesirable guy I guess um whereas the guy who's making 40K a year they're going to look to him who's less capable of spending money on them and they're

Brian Atlasgoing to expect him to do all the providing and provisioning and blah blah blah but if a guy's High status enough that [ __ ] goes out the window that's when girls will end up becoming Sims so

Brian Atlasum and I'm in favor of female sing by the way I believe in female sing now so sorry you're your question again

Brian Atlaswas oh okay how do I expect that um I would argue that actually a woman who's okay with you not providing that that's actually a way to screen out for very

Brian Atlashighin women because they will I don't want to use the word tolerate but they're fine with not you not providing they're just So Into You for perhaps

Brian Atlasother reasons and it also weeds out gold diggers too I think okay nice nice thank you but like if if the girl is like don't get me wrong like if I really like

Brian Atlasthe girl and it depends the Dynamics too like if she's a career girl and she's making good money she's making six figures like okay we can do like you can

Brian Atlaspay your own [ __ ] like we're both adults here right but if you know if it happens to be the case that I'm dating somebody who's not quite you know well well enough along in their career or whatever I'm I'm significantly out earning them

Brian Atlasthen I can take care of it it's not a problem but she's got to be just for me there can't be other guys in the picture like if if I come here's my view right and I don't know maybe I'm [ __ ]

Jannadelusional if I come into your life the other dudes are a rap first date goodbye the other dudes have to be gone there can't be other dudes in the picture so you're offering girls to be your

Jannagirlfriend on the first date so you see someone and say now you're my girlfriend that takes a little bit of time that's it okay you see it takes a little bit of time a littleit time of course yeah

Jannashe's got to be in Waiting ah in Waiting girlfriend's in Waiting long waiting Ryan you know oh my God Ran that's all right girlfriend's in

TTS/DonationsWaiting these gold diggers are vacinated $100 if you say no to a coffee date you're missing the point no one has to get ready for a coffee date and it cuts

Brian Atlasthe [ __ ] money and the makeup Latina on the right what do you think Latina on the right do you think I think you I think he's talking

Celesteto you he's talking to you girl I mean I'm totally fine with the coffee date I rather do that first and be stuck at a dinner with someone I don't Vibe with

Brian Atlasfor like two hours word word wait guys we are going to go we're going to do a brief after show 10 minute after show then we're going to wrap up uh hold on

Brian Atlaslet me change the TTS threshold has officially been lowered read answer is 20 and up instant TTS is 69 and up so if you want to get in any uh oh are you a

Brian Atlasoh [ __ ] we don't have Maddie here to do the should we just leave it like I like this lighting or maybe we just keep it like this right let's just keep it like this

Brian Atlasokay that's fine um I believe I changed the thresholds here let me just double check did I did I did I I'm pretty sure it should be changed uh TTS is $69 and up read answer is $20 and up we're we'll

Brian Atlasgo for a little bit longer then we're going to wrap because it's getting late uh okay I had a couple more notes here oh let's go around the table on this Stiffler oh wait twitch twitch let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever

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TessaDuty what are we talking about L [ __ ] energy has dropped like $400 during this chat he's got some tight [ __ ] energy yeah yo loose [ __ ]

Brian Atlasenergy you got some tight [ __ ] energy keep going champagne pop champagne pop I'll do it for 500 just say um

Brian Atlaschamp 690 I don't know I'll do for 500 I said yo it's just Jeff wean I have that's a cute dog bro thank you thank you Jeff appreciate it brother um oh

Brian Atlaswait let me just copy and paste this hold on let me get rid of this what hey hey where did it go hey there it is hold on hey okay there we go

Brian Atlasread answer 20 and up instant TTS 69 and up wait we man oh wait is that oh I already showed that right okay yeah you can hide that one

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TTS/Donations$69 can we get an IT small in time from the five ranges across from Brian oh that's a oh my God bro holy [ __ ] dude wait Nick can you just Google like Power

Brian AtlasRangers theme really quick yeah do you guys know oh my gosh they have the colors we got the red where's the Pink Ranger though she's she's wearing a red

Brian Atlastop yeah that no yeah we need cuz we've got Red Ranger red yellow blue white black someone for It's morphin time wait

Tessahow does it go it does yeah it goes wait he's like It's morphin time I'm like okay but he crosses his arms first I go like this wait all of the girls here I

Celestewant all of you at the same time or one by one to say It's morphin time into the M cup It's morphin time what are you doing

Celesteyes wait go ahead go ahead again wait can I see a video first cuz I've never seen Power Rangers just just just do it just It's morphin time It's morphin time It's morphin time

Brian Atlasthat was kind of seductive the way she said it's morphine time it's morphine time it's morphine time morphine time this is a drug

Tessapodcast can the girls over here say too I don't know no huh we're not part of the Power Ranger crew apparently come on now H okay for Nicole for

Brian Atlasyikes oh I saw one of your tweets men almost always want to marry me after the first date I guess that's why I haven't been on one in almost two years

Nicoleyeah yeah um I've dealt with like stalker before St before and then like yeah um so yeah I'll take a break just

Nicoleum yeah might have wanted to married me before so like pretty early and I don't know how to feel about

Oxanathat no thank you should get the bigger one yeah it's kind of small Brian mentioned events from Matchmaker what are these

Oxanaevents um uh it's about that yeah love tours so it's a four five days events that we do several times a year uh in different parts of United States and where we have uh women flying in and

Oxanaguys flying in from all the different areas and we have um uh lots of coaching couples building lots of fun lots of yeah big program lots of lots of fun so

Brian Atlaswe do form lots of couples there I need a new privacy screen I don't know if you guys have like for I just okay so sorry continued sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry is there more um yeah so the what's it

Oxanacalled what's what's the name of the company aana love Axana love yes named after you actually it was created when I was 16 years old without even my yeah it was created kind of for me yeah I

Oxanastarted that when I was 16 okay so nice um yeah so we do create create lots of couples during those events but it is lots of work it is fun but it is lots of work for individuals lots of coaching

Brian Atlaslots of changing yourself and uh you know people end up being happy nice very nice very nice okay let me see oh we have Stiffler here this is always a good

Brian Atlasone ask everyone to rate their looks on the scale of 1 to 10 NPR radio okay never mind uh oh oh starting

Brian Atlaswith you and we'll go around the table go ahead Cece Cece sorry sorry sorry um eight

Nicoleword um I'd say 10 yeah there's always been for PR shirt but like I think I'm cute

Celeste[Laughter] [Applause] like that was

Brian Atlasgood so just to I'm gonna take your words and I'm G to say them back to you I am a 10 but there's always room for

Brian Atlasimprovement if you're a 10 there is no room for improvement like maybe if you said I'm a nine I think

Brian Atlasjust there's a room for improvement I just more like upkeep like upkeep yeah

Mandyokay all right Mandy what about you I think I'm like a seven and a half but an eight cuz I'm funny this is just looks though this is just looks oh then yeah like seven and a

Oxanahalf okay sure what about you uh I don't go by outer looks but uh for what the person on the inside so for but looks just on looks if you had to I don't know what would you say I don't

Oxanacare you want me to I'm not I don't make it habit to rate the women it's the person who the person that defines a person is who the person on

Oxanathe inside you know so based on the inside and the type of person I am it's pretty decent that's not an answer that doesn't yeah thank thank you thank you for

Tessahaving my back thank you uh looks on scale one to 10 three no girl you got big boobs you more than a three come on now thank

Janna[Laughter] you okay what about you I put some efforts so seven okay uh six or seven sure yeah I don't

Brian Atlasreally put a lot of effort in so I'd go with like four or five I just throw clothes on at night okay um yeah like a seven I used to get honestly I I feel

Brian Atlaslike I needed I've needed to revise this answer I've just been in the habit cuz I always give the same answer every time and um but I've honestly should have revised this answer a lot sooner because

Brian Atlasthis has been going on so I used to say I'm a six maybe a 6.5 on a good day however honestly the truth is I am a stress eater and I've gained some weight I'm getting a little chubby I need to

Brian Atlaslose some weight it's my face has gotten a little fatter uh I used to say I'm a six I think now I'm a five because I've gained some weight I think I'm a five now in

Brian Atlaslooks um maybe if I lose some weight I can get back to a six maybe a 6.5 if I lose even more so that's how a man answers that

Mandyquestion honestly uh yeah I need to lose some weight though um yeah good talk dad bugs are

Brian Atlasnice Dad BS are are in though n you guys say that but it's not true it's it is the truth no but yeah I've needed to uh I've needed to revise

JannaI've I need lose some weight and I need to lose some weight for a while so I'm like a five right I'm a five right now I ain't a six no more you just had to get ready for winter you know and we count on Charisma

Brian Atlasmore than on out look that I think actually look I think looks are almost more important for a man in some ways no I think looks are more important I think first thing is always

Brian Atlaslike if they're funny they need to be funny they need to be funny if you are not funny I you say that you say that but if he's not physically attractive see my roster and you will know that I'm telling the truth okay you missed it

Rainaearlier we were talking about how I stop the C go ahead go ahead go ahead that I when I met this guy I didn't find him attractive and then as I got to know him it like changed okay well I'll give you

Brian Atlasthat men are able to make up for their lack of physical appearance in other ways like if they're really funny or they have status or they have money or you know they're bringing something to

Brian Atlasthe table however most men don't have that [ __ ] like most men are not funny most men are not charismatic most men don't have

Oxanastatus most men don't have money so yes men can make up for it in other ways but yeah women choose men who they feel

Brian Atlassafe with so whatever the point of safety the man can provide to a woman that's who she will choosing true it's true it's true thank you Stiffler for

Brian Atlasthat question that was very nice of you the what's wrong with it you got a problem with the way I talk why does it sounds so good on

Brian Atlasyou roasted holy [ __ ] that was no no no what are you let me read this oh go ahead what that voice sounds good on me is that like do you have like a kink or something like you want girl girl bye

Brian Atlasbye you want to the some girls be like the imag yo chat chat imagine like you're in bed with a girl right and she's like yo like for dirty talk she's

Brian Atlaslike yo I want you to talk like you're gay while [ __ ] me and you're like okay like

Brian Atlasthat I would listen no I wouldn't do that [ __ ] I wouldn't do that [ __ ] maybe it's a joke that might be funny I don't know sound like you're getting into it what the new Kink

Brian Atlasdiscovered all right hey that's my job I'm doing good all right we have s s women will bend and break their own rules for the right guy and the majority of good men that would do anything for

Brian Atlasthem are disregarded the 020 rule is very real facts so thank you very much for the uh donation thank you big J

Brian Atlasconsider she's from a place where 300 is often the monthly wage and she's on food stamps here do you really think person accepting help in this case is being a gold digger y'all Shameless wait yeah

Brian Atlasyou shamed me a little bit I didn't shame I did not shame did not shame well people in the chat a gold digger but no it's not I don't think you're a

Jannagold digger if you take up someone of is a gold I'm taking this gold okay no I put more in the same way that I want women

Brian Atlasto have agency and accountability and the perhaps poor decisions they make when it comes to dating I also think men need to have accountability if like for example the like the dudes who spend all

Brian Atlasthis money on only fans and sugar daddies and pay pigs and all this [ __ ] granted look there are some women out there that can be predatory in the way that they move and try to get these

Brian Atlasdudes but like ultimately if you bust out your credit card and your wallet that's on you dude like you need to there's there's two parts there's Supply

Brian Atlasand the demand and if you're creating the demand and if you're feel great it's not that hard to just have you have you tried Googling boobs have you guys tried that oh you're going to pay $20 for her

Brian Atlaso have you tried Googling boobs 20 million results for boobs just saying I can and even my [ __ ] if large Leia son I can just I'll need to pay for only fense

Brian Atlasfor that just Google that [ __ ] m is free too mine is free Audi boom boom but that's not how you make your

Mandymoney okay he hey hey hey C the link in my

Mandybio I can't stand

Brian Atlasyou I was a little slow with it but uh okay last thing here um did you want to talk about you know the The Ting no you don't want

Nicoleto talk about it don't want to talk about it you sure you don't want maybe back sometime though oh you're talking round two the M sorry maybe round two

Brian Atlaswhat's her name pickle yes her name's pickle yikes yikes uh I feel like I had another question but I

Brian Atlasforgot does anybody while I'm trying to jump my brain here does anyone anyone at the panel here have a f final thought or

Brian Atlasquestion any anything you guys would like to talk about before we wrap up the

Tessashow anything I think educating yourself on things you want to talk about is very needed don't just use big words that have been thrown around uh who's this

Tessadirected to I think we all know um I wanted to keep it a little bit broader but I think you definitely came on the podcast today very uneducated um I think you were very back and forth with yourself I think you have a lot to

Tessajust think about like not necessarily for everyone around you but maybe in your own self what you actually want out of things and how you actually feel cuz it seemed like maybe you even were a little confused by yourself um I know

TessaI've totally been in that position too where I don't know what I believe I don't know how I feel about myself uh but it definitely felt today uh there was uh some of the things you talked

Tessaabout you were definitely uh undereducated about it and just very back and forth and confusing about

Nicoleit you going to respond um I agree with I should be more educated on more topics and not just referencing like specifics and if I am then be more forward about that um as I said like yeah I wasn't

Nicolereally prepared for some of the larger more broader questions when I was referring to like specific yeah stuff so are you saying you want to run it back do a little round two perhaps I there's

Brian Atlasno way you're coming I don't think perhaps was did I go too hard I think I went too hard no I don't think so talking to the mic just be more prepared and talk in the mic talk into

Oxanathe mic so anybody else anybody else got a final thought or uh yeah I can ask a question yeah of course yeah go ahead um I actually I want to know uh from the

Oxanaladies yeah your single status whoever is single is it a choice or you just put

Celestein this situation that you got nobody to date mine's a choice and why because right now more focused on my school and

Nicolemy work so that's what my main focus is right now help you for me um I don't really know how to meet people because I'm not really big

Nicoleon dating apps and I don't go out much like I'm a very much homebody at home caring for my grandma their full-time student um so it's like where are the good men I don't know I don't know how to meet people my age without like going

Nicoleout to like a club or something which just really isn't my style to be honest well like meeting people organically like where do you find men I don't know okay so it is not Choice it's just kind of

Mandycircumstance I don't know based on what everyone else was saying I guess I'm not single so where are the good men where are the good men the where are the good men I

Tessaactually at home sleep yeah they asleep they in bed right now it's past they bedtime they're they're they're sleeping cuz they got work in the morning my boyfriend's in the car sleeping right now so they're not dropping $100 to like roast

Tessawomen damn that that was a spot on though that was a good one that was a good one I think that is where the good men are because they're wondering where are all the good women hey support

Brian Atlasyourself they're watching my podcast I really want to hear redhead try to find what oh would we could get into that let's go [ __ ] it [ __ ] it why not you know we got a bit of time 10 minutes

Brian Atlasgoing around the table well I think it's directed no we'll go around the table fully on this what is a

Celestewoman a woman who is someone who's biologically born as a woman who was it sorry I couldn't hear a woman is I don't know a woman whoever refers to himself as a woman as

Celestea woman in my opinion so just so I understand a woman is a woman biologically yes if a woman's

Nicolebiologically born as a woman it's a woman oh okay okay what what about you so definition what is a woman like you know there's the biological woman and then there's a lot of controversy with

Nicolelike transgender and that's I mean to me like that's fine um whatever makes you feel comfortable in your own body and confident yeah do your thing as long as you're not like bothering anybody like

Nicoleyou're just being yourself like you do you you know yeah I'm not one to judge like do your thing if that's what you're confident in

Mandyand that's what you're comfortable being you you do that yeah yeah I might get a bit of a clapback by maybe the comments or like some people at this table but I believe that a woman is anyone who

Mandyidentifies as a woman um it's not biological or anything to me um or maybe to other people but if you identify as a woman then you're a woman in my eyes if you want to be called a woman then

Brian Atlasyou're a woman can I ask so so a a woman is somebody who identifies as a woman yeah did you have something on that but what does that mean like so yeah what is

Rainaa woman do you think that trans women are women um I think biological women are women I think you're wrong that's that's what I think but but what what defines being a woman and you can't

MandyDefine if you ident just personally to me I don't want to have to argue my decision but I think if you identify as a woman and you believe that you're a woman then you're a woman that's plain and simple for my opinion if you think

Brian Atlasotherwise and that's on you [ __ ] I understand I understand no no sorry sorry I'm [ __ ] losing my game here [ __ ] I understand but can anybody is there any move can here I don't know if can you guys wait can you guys see the

Brian Atlasscreen is is there any what are you doing playing solit I'm playing Sol is there a move I can make chat is there a [ __ ] move I think I'm trapped I don't is that a two of hearts and a wait what

Brian Atlaswas the I think I'm [ __ ] I don't see a move it's totally scuffed oh well okay I see a move just kidding there's no move there's zero move to

Rainabe uh oh did you have sorry did you have um yeah so I understand that that's what you believe in we just disagree on that

Rainabut having like you can't define something with that thing necessarily you can't say a woman is a woman because what does that

Oxanamean it means what I just said that's your opinion I'm not going to argue about it okay what about what about you

Oxanaa woman is love it is care it is nurture um but overall it is love and kindness

Brian Atlasokay yeah beautiful answer it's beautiful oh freak you just stop playing huh he's playing something else now not

Brian Atlasno I'm listening I'm listening I I bro I'm on some like Destiny multitasking [ __ ] I'm listening don't worry I'm listening

Jannayeah uh woman is uh a person who has uh feminine energy uh also who um uh share

Jannathis feminine loving uh soothing energy and I've never been to any other skin I can't feel for people who feel

Jannadifferently so I can't judge um but I feel also that uh it's

Jannasomething that been given to you to be a woman for example yeah it's given to you if okay uh moving on what about uh what

Taraabout I think a woman is like the creator of all human life

Taraand um to be a woman means sacrifice um also to obviously like have children oh my God that's one

TTS/DonationsMotorsports donated $69 a dude that dresses up as a woman is still a dude in that there is no way as a straight heter a male I am going to kiss him there is no reason for me to

TTS/Donationsparticipate in others mental illness thank you for sharing your perspective grid one thank you were you

Tessadone where were we I was finished are you sure yeah okay um I think a woman is someone who was born with a vagina and has the capability to give birth and

Tessahave periods um I yeah I mean 2023 woman of the year is someone who has a penis and I think

Tessathat's disgusting I think women are beautiful creatures and they should be treated as women and no one should have the right to take that away from a

Rainawoman I agree with that and I'd like to expand that more so than just definitions in the Bible it says God created them male and female right so he

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