SIMP Paid Her Bills On FIRST DATE?! Feminist Until The Check Comes?! | Dating Talk #120

Date: 2023-11-22
Duration: 6h 45m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Nicole(guest)
SPEAKER_03Raina(guest)
SPEAKER_04Tessa(guest)
SPEAKER_05Tara(guest)
SPEAKER_06Mandy(guest)
SPEAKER_07TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_11Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_12Oxana(guest)
SPEAKER_13Janna(guest)
SPEAKER_14Celeste(guest)

Key Moments

00:31:00
QuoteBrian introduces himself as representative of the patriarchy and proclaims men have fewer rights than women.

men have less rights than women and that is an inescapable fact feminism has failed you how can the patriarchy help you today I am the official representative of the patriarchy

01:31:42
QuoteOxana (matchmaker) argues that a woman can either build or crush her man through how she handles herself with him; gratitude helps man grow.

woman always builds man with the right way she handles herself with the man she can either build her man or Crush her man

01:38:00
ControversyTessa challenges Nicole on the contradiction between calling herself a feminist while wanting a full male provider who pays for everything.

the two they can they can be parallel so then can I ask you something real quick

01:40:05
QuoteNicole rates herself a 10 on looks.

um I'd say 10 yeah there's always been for PR shirt but like I think I'm cute

02:10:47
QuoteBrian self-rates at 5 due to recent weight gain (down from 6).

I used to say I'm a six I think now I'm a five because I've gained some weight

02:24:10
ControversyTessa tells Nicole she came on the podcast undereducated, was back-and-forth and confused, and should think more about what she actually wants.

I think you definitely came on the podcast today very uneducated um I think you were very back and forth

02:35:12
QuoteBrian plays Andrew Tate clip arguing men working dangerous jobs do so to provide for their families, not to oppress women.

when a man gets up at 4 in the morning to go carry garbage to earn a good wage he ain't thinking I'm going to do this so I can oppress that

04:28:00
QuoteTessa describes meeting her current boyfriend who ambushed her with his entire family on the first Tinder date.

his whole family including Brothers sisters grandfather grandmother they all

06:04:58
QuoteBrian asks guests to rate themselves 1-10 on looks.

starting with you and we'll go around the table go ahead Cece

Topics Discussed

00:00:00
Introductions & relationship status

Guests introduce themselves; relationship statuses revealed. Mandy is in an exclusive situationship since July 4th (~6 months) but not officially in a relationship.

01:30:00
Who should pay on the first date

Discussion on whether men should pay on first dates. Nicole wants provider; Celeste says whoever initiates; Mandy says situation-dependent. Brian argues against feminist who wants both equal pay and traditional treatment.

01:31:00
Feminism and traditional values contradiction

Nicole identifies as feminist but wants provider husband, traditional gender roles, to be stay-at-home wife. Brian and Tessa challenge the contradiction. Wage gap data presented (payscale, Pew Research).

01:46:00
Patriarchy discussion

Guests define and debate the patriarchy. Nicole claims patriarchy exists as male leadership. Brian rejects it, argues gynocentric society. Janna gives Slavic example of abandoned mothers.

02:01:00
Wage gap data presentation

Nick pulls up PayScale controlled vs uncontrolled wage gap charts, Pew Research Center data on young women's earnings, GDP per capita vs median male income, working hours comparison. Discussion of film industry pay disparities.

02:33:20
Andrew Tate clip - men as providers

Clip of Andrew Tate explaining that men working dangerous/dirty jobs do so to provide for family, not to oppress women. All guests react positively.

03:01:00
Roster / dating multiple people

Going around the table: who has had a roster. Celeste: not now (3 people at ~17-18). Nicole: no. Mandy: situationship (quasi-single). Oxana: had roster before husband. Janna: never hookups or one-night stands. Tara: open relationship dating. Tessa: no. Raina: pursued by multiple but no crossover.

04:04:00
Older men dating younger women

Brian presents list of reasons older men prefer younger women (not manipulation). Mandy raises concern that older men manipulate young women. Brian rejects pathologizing of male preferences.

04:49:50
Sugar daddy discussion

Nicole mentions sugar daddy thing traumatizes women; alludes to personal experience but refuses to elaborate. Brian notes women actively seek sugar daddies via apps like Seeking Arrangements.

06:04:58
Self-ratings (1-10 looks)

Guests rate themselves on looks 1-10. Celeste: 10. Nicole: 8 (said 10 initially, walked back). Mandy: 7.5 (8 with humor). Oxana: declined. Janna: 7. Tara: 6-7. Tessa: 3. Raina: 6. Brian: 5 (down from 6 due to weight gain).

06:07:45
What is a woman / transgender debate

Going around table: Celeste says biological woman. Nicole says fine with trans identifying as woman. Mandy says identifies as woman = woman. Oxana: woman is love/care/nurture. Janna: feminine energy, given to you. Tara: open relationship. Tessa: biological only, cites God not making mistakes. Raina: biblical gender differences.

06:37:16
Body count discussion

Body counts: Nicole <5 (declined to specify); Mandy under 20; Oxana declined; Janna <10; Tara: 11; Tessa: 0; Raina: 0. Brian: 11. Discussion on whether body count matters.

Transcript

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02:43:12
Oxanathink men should be trying to impress women at least here's here's my life accept it but that's not man supposed to position himself who
02:43:24
Oxanahe is right this is who I am this is my achievements this is my plan this is my because otherwise you guys are expecting women to be mind readers which is uh I mean looking for a psychic is impossible
02:43:36
Oxananow love psychic women those are my favorites the best the big thing that women are making mistakes of is uh like this question that you ask everybody right big thing that women making the
02:43:49
Oxanamistake they start coming up with the answers in their own head and this is such a creative world we women will come up with so many pictures with so many ideas I hear sometimes it's like my mind
02:44:00
Oxanais blowing uh the type of things that women find answers like we come up with those answers instead we should be asking man we really should be digging
02:44:12
Oxanain deeper like where exactly it is coming from not to judge on the surface but to really understand where this behavior is coming from sure that's
02:44:22
Oxanawhere it's like it opens up the depth of um development of their relationship because the person might Express how they were raised that this was in gra in their family or whatever so it opens up
02:44:33
Tessatotally different levels of communication depth of that communication and women tend to be more emotional on like a a scientific that's you know this is how women run they run
02:44:45
Tessamore off their emotional basis and so I completely agree with you if women could just sometimes you know I know for myself if I could just take a [ __ ] breath sometimes and not feel like oh my
02:44:58
Brian Atlasgosh he's acting this way you know say with my boyfriend what's that her face gets a little bit blocked sometimes oh can you scoot your mic more to the corner right
02:45:07
Tessahere yeah that's turn it this way no no no no no just that's fine go ahead okay um for example I know with my boyfriend there's times where he'll say
02:45:21
Tessasomething little and I'll totally take it and I just run with it and I'm like he's he's feeling this way towards me he's feeling this way if I could just take a breath and be like hey what did you mean by that I could avoid all this
02:45:32
Brian Atlasother drama going on inside of myself and my anger building up towards him you know what I mean so there you have it so okay my I used to have a I've perhaps walked back a
02:45:44
Brian Atlaslittle bit my stance on this when it comes to who should pay my previous stance was across the board you got to split that [ __ ] I've developed a bit more Nuance
02:45:57
Brian Atlashere so here's the Nuance if you're trying to minmax your dating results with women you should pay for the first date not
02:46:08
Brian Atlasout of any tradition or any of like it's just if you're trying to maximize your success with any given woman mhm you like your best bet is to pay for the first aid some women are fine with
02:46:19
Brian Atlassplitting but sometimes you don't always know who that's going to be even women who admit they're cool with splitting maybe aren't cool with splitting women will do this thing where they'll like do the the fake like oh you want me to get
02:46:31
Brian Atlasit you want to split and then their wallet's not and then the guy naively takes them up on their offer to split
02:46:39
Brian Atlasthe bill and then the woman holds her offer against him the the the woman holds holds it against the man for
02:46:49
Brian Atlastaking her up on the offer the words that came out of her mouth and will oh he accepted my offer even though it came out of my mouth I'm not interested
02:47:01
Brian Atlasanymore there's not going to be a first aid so minmax you know like World of Warcraft if you're going to minmax you know obviously like for PVE you're going to roll Alliance and then like if you're going to play Like a Warrior or Rog you're going to go you're going to want
02:47:13
Brian Atlasto be human because of like the plus five uh Mason sword spec like for like you know hit chance and [ __ ] cuz at 60 you know there's like when you're raiding there's glancing blows if
02:47:24
Brian Atlasthey're 63 like level 63 raid bosses and [ __ ] um you know like you definitely you want to be playing human in World of Warcraft classic again that plus plus
02:47:35
Brian Atlasfive to weapon skill for swords and maces you're going to [ __ ] minmax so in that same way like and then also like PVP if you're on the horde you're going to want to play orc because orc has that
02:47:46
Brian Atlas25% stun resist which is [ __ ] huge don't now don't get me wrong Undead is also very good because of their will of The Forsaken like you get fear resistance two-minute cooldown or
02:47:58
Brian Atlassomething I believe on will of The Forsaken so that's great against priests and warlocks and who else has fear Warriors have a fear sometimes you know so PVP you can't go wrong with orc and
02:48:10
Brian Atlasuh Undead orc is just like the best like minmax for that 25% stun resist I think it's called hardiness you know so just saying but so like Min maxing right um
02:48:20
Brian Atlasin dating in dating I don't know in dating if you're going to minmax you should pay for the first date however
02:48:29
Brian Atlashowever I will say this if the woman considers herself to be a feminist to be liberal to be Progressive I think you should split the
02:48:39
Brian Atlasbill in that situation you want traditional treatment you ought to be a traditional woman you got to be you want traditional treatment be a traditional woman and the thing is a lot of women who even
02:48:52
Brian Atlasconsider themselves liberal Progressive feminists they want to be modern women while demanding traditional treatment from men which again that's not a fair
02:49:01
Brian AtlasShake in my view so uh there's that also uh regardless of her politics or if she's traditional non-traditional although I would argue that uh you know
02:49:12
Brian Atlasprom granted I think like a liberal woman obviously can be non-promiscuous but if she's promiscuous regardless of her politics or any other [ __ ] uh
02:49:22
Brian Atlaslike if she's dating other men you don't pay if if she's entertaining other dudes certainly if she's hooking up with other dudes first off you don't you shouldn't even just go on a date with her but if she is dating
02:49:35
Brian Atlasother men because we've had women come on the show I've had personal experiences where I've gone on a date with a girl and she tells me that she's had three four five other dates this week I'm like okay I'm not even pursuing you anymore
02:49:47
Jannalet's I'll talk to you for five more minutes and this date's over um it's just maybe your date will be a match course why not why you give up so
02:49:58
Brian Atlasearly I'm not dealing with a girl who's dating like seven other dudes no Define dating what is dating like to go out I okay like going on dates so a woman for
02:50:10
Brian Atlasexample we had and this is this is an extreme okay so I know most women don't move like this so we did have a woman on who considered herself she was traditional and conservative political
02:50:21
Brian Atlasbeliefs whatever but she said that she her goal was to go on 501 dates in 50 days again I know that's an very outlier I know most women are not like that but
02:50:31
Brian Atlasthe the the feeling of that at a lower level is still kind of the same where if a girl is going say on three or four dates a week with different men I'm the [ __ ] date number five of the week I remember I was once on a date with a
02:50:44
Brian Atlasgirl she had just downloading a dating app I met her on hinge and she tells me on the date I appreci I at least appreciate her honesty she had just downloaded it I was her already her fourth date she'd been
02:50:57
Brian Atlason the app for a week she had two dates planned for the weekends I'm thinking what if I like this girl and I want to go on a date with her this weekend again like it was the midweek or whatever I was like what if I want to
02:51:08
Oxanasee you Friday Saturday oh sorry I got a date no maybe she will like you and she will canel of course how how a lot of women your position as a man to to
02:51:20
Brian Atlasconquer position yourself right to to conquer no to position yourself that you are the one that you are special but she but a lot of women like even if a woman's interested in you a lot of people the grass is greener on the other
02:51:33
Brian Atlasside they want to entertain multiple options a lot of women might say this guy is great but then they might also say this guy's really funny this guy's a provider this guy's good in bed this guy's really [ __ ] hot so they might
02:51:45
Brian Atlasuse different men for different reasons and the other thing is is just like I don't want to play that game like be properly single like don't be bro you even if we just met if you've hooked up
02:51:57
Brian Atlaswith a guy in recent history you hooked up with a guy last week goodbye see cuz some guys and this is where I differ from some of the other people in the space some guys are like oh well promiscuous women like if she's
02:52:10
Brian Atlassleeping with other men you could just like uh what What's the term it's uh recreational use only they use that this term um they'll just sleep with a girl cuz but like I don't even want casual
02:52:22
Brian Atlassex with a promiscuous woman because to first off I'm not really interested in just like a onetime of course casual sex if I sleep if I want to sleep with a girl I want continuity I want to
02:52:32
Jannacontinue seeing her so I have no interest you need to know her values to understand if she but I so I have no interest in just sleeping with a girl one time that's a waste of time what's
02:52:43
Jannathat you're a Jud you're judging that oh maybe he will sleep with other he will she will sleep with others and so on and so instead of instead of learning about her instead of saying hey I like of
02:52:54
Jannacourse I judge of course I judge but why instead of it's very important to be judgmental of course no no no not judgmental I think curious about people you know when you're judgmental without
02:53:06
Brian Atlaslack of information because you just lost all my curiosity for a woman as soon as I know she's going on date with a bunch of other men while talking to me
02:53:16
Brian Atlasthe thing that maybe I'm an outlier here I find it extremely attractive when a woman even very early on initially first
02:53:28
Brian Atlasmeeting her I have her undivided romantic and sexual attention certainly if her sexual attention is divided that's a non-starter I don't want to go on a date with you I don't want to kiss
02:53:41
Brian Atlasyou I don't want to anything with a girl who's has div divided sexual attention exactly romant same thing with the Romantic attention the sexual attention
02:53:51
Brian AtlasI think is far more if her sexual attention is divided that's noo romantic sexual attention it's not as severe but
02:54:00
Brian AtlasI want a girl who's exclusively focused on me from the [ __ ] get-go because and perhaps you women have experienced this well I don't know if it's the same for how will you know this
02:54:12
Jannasorry for inter I she know if you met people on hinch you can assume that every isting are disaster I don't I gave up on
02:54:23
Brian Atlasdating apps I don't do I used to do dating apps I've been off them for yeah I think over a year well over a year or something like that no of course but but so just one thing so my experience so
02:54:36
Brian AtlasI've had experience with women who are super high interest um and I no longer play this game of like chasing women cuz I've I've been on both sides of that I've had
02:54:46
Brian Atlaswomen who are really [ __ ] high interest to the point where like if you've never had that like it's it's intoxicating to some degree um but and
02:54:58
Brian AtlasI've also had women who like they're kind of on the fence about me and goodbye of course I'm not going to court I'm not going to court you I'm not going to chase you I like women who
02:55:09
Jannaimmediately go to bed are like no it's not even sure I no no it's not even that I'm taking no it's not even that but for
02:55:21
Brian Atlasno more than one month no but it's not it's not even no it's but it's not even just it's not even that it's like they're they don't just want to sleep with me quickly but they also like
02:55:33
Brian Atlasthey're [ __ ] ride or die they're all for me romantically too like I really like this guy that's what I want I've dealt enough with low interest medium
02:55:43
Brian Atlasinterest wom I don't want it if I can if I can get a woman who's High interest that's far more preferable and once you've had it it's very hard to go from having a woman who's having or
02:55:56
Brian Atlasthroughout the course of your life having multiple women who have demonstrated very high interest in you and to go back to the girl who's dating multiple men who's on the fence who's I don't deal with fence sitters you're for
02:56:07
Oxaname or goodbye and that's it okay I got very worked up there but she needs to know that she has has to be for you right she has to understand who you are what your values are so in order to
02:56:20
Oxanaincrease the chances of quality date Nick can you close that uh why don't you spend some time to speak with her on the video first and when you go and so you would give her some sort of Education
02:56:31
Oxanawhat your expectations are yes because we are not mind readers okay we cannot read uh what's on your mind or man's
02:56:39
Brian Atlasmind impossible yeah so you got to tell us so we would be able to give it to you right no well actually I mean when I used to do the the dating app thing like when I was on hinge or whatever before I
02:56:52
Brian Atlasmet a girl i' every single girl I ever went on a date with from any of the dating apps I want to do a phone call and I think I think that's a good strategy for both men and women one because you know everyone can be really [ __ ] clever when they have five
02:57:05
Brian Atlasminutes to come up with something something to say so um one it's just like it gives both parties an out so if the vibe I don't like to use that term
02:57:15
Brian Atlasthe vibe whatever [ __ ] [ __ ] ass term if theere if the vibe isn't there it gives both like cuz I don't want to go on a DAT with a girl that's not really feeling me and if she's not
02:57:26
Brian Atlasreally feeling me after a phone call then do me a favor save me time from having to go on a DAT with you just say oh Brian I'm not interested I have no issue with that and likewise for me
02:57:37
Brian Atlasthere's been women who I've talked to on the phone I'm like oo this girl like on text she seems cool but like I can tell she there's something weird with her or and maybe a girl might feel that way about me and she can opt out I can opt
02:57:50
Brian Atlasout I think it's a really good move it'll save you time because I I'm a very busy person so if I can save myself the trouble of having to actually go on the date by screening out a girl on a phone
02:58:01
Brian Atlascall video call is better not just I prefer phone calls to be honest I don't know I don't like video calls but um he likes surprises I no why what if she's a catfish he's like no that's exactly I
02:58:13
Brian Atlasdon't no surprises yeah I'm not too I mean if you get them on the call and it's a woman who picks up and I mean you can you can typically how do you not a woman
02:58:22
Oxanaon the phone I mean what you mean the voice you can tell the voice Mak up and the first day instead of like but why not video call you can see the way she looks right now the way she sounds right now you can see exactly if it is
02:58:35
Brian Atlassomething that you are interested she can do the same that's for me I mean I don't if somebody wants to do a video call that's probably for most people that's preferable I just me personally I prefer voice calls when I when I was
02:58:46
Brian Atlasdoing the whole dating app thing I'd do I'd always just do a hey let's call for 10 20 minutes whatever get acquainted first um but uh that was just me usually because I'd be like doing something like I'd be on I'd be walking and I don't
02:58:59
Brian Atlaswant to be like oh am I in the [ __ ] frame I just want to talk you know and i' I I've not had any having had I done a video call I don't think I've had any instances in my
02:59:10
Brian Atlasown experience that it would have been better to have done a video call than the because whatever you did apparently is not working so it's time to well it's not no but it's not clear to me if
02:59:21
Brian Atlashaving done the video call would have resulted in of the women that I've met up with from dating apps where I did a voice call it's not clear to me if having done a video call would have had
02:59:33
Oxanaany other impact you see person like when she answers your questions you can see her reaction like you're observing everyone here right how they where they roing there eyes and moving their hands
02:59:45
Brian Atlaswhatever same thing on yeah no that's that's a fair point that's a fair point I just me personally I just even for non romantic conversations like if I'm doing a business call I actually prefer just voice calls um I don't like video calls
02:59:58
Brian Atlasknow that's just my own personal thing but I you're you're not wrong I think you're 100% right I think I know if you if you're inclined no if you're inclined to do a video call do a video call just me
03:00:09
Oxanapersonally I prefer voice calls so it's like a in my ser we have this thing uh virtual speed dating so it's like 3 minutes but people they see each other they talk to each other so that first
03:00:21
Brian Atlasimpression sure how they uh feel about each other it is uh important you know yeah but definitely like the ho pays thing
03:00:33
Brian Atlasuh the what H maybe later maybe later let me get to my notes Here we have some notes
03:00:40
Brian Atlasuh who do I start with let's see uh uh oh yeah the thing I wanted to talk oh going back to like everyone's
03:00:49
Brian Atlasrelationship status at any point or currently have you ever had a roster a roster dating multiple people at the same
03:01:02
Celestetime no I haven't never I when I was younger I did never crossover when I was younger like 17 18 but now no how big was the roster back then it's probably
03:01:12
Nicolelike three people three okay what about you roster in the past like possible prospects thinking about maybe but like crossover wise no okay no come on be honest be honest be honest I literally
03:01:25
Mandytold you this earlier I don't like dating people like at the same time it makes me feel weird and I don't have like wait last show I granted it was a long time ago last time you were on it's there was like a guy that you
03:01:38
Brian Atlaswere kind of hooking up with but it sounded like there was maybe some other guys in the picture I could be wrong I could be wrong it was a long time ago no no no no uh same
03:01:47
Oxanaguy okay all right uh ever had a roster I did oh yeah I
03:01:54
Oxanaknow a angel no uh so it was of course before my um uh before my husband and I
03:02:02
Oxanawas dating actually uh who is the father of my child and this uh um other guy so okay yeah so my husband he's not father
03:02:13
Jannaof my child we met when she was already one okay I would Define what roster is
03:02:21
Jannaum because uh I never dated I never had two boyfriends or like um and never had committed relationships with several
03:02:31
Jannapeople but um when for example now uh I date people just to I meet I I call it I meet people right so I don't have anyone
03:02:42
JannaI'm not go I never had a hooks up hook hooks up hookup you've never had a hookup no and never night stand one night stand never happened I know those
03:02:52
Jannafellow Russian men are very Charming come on no they're very kind of respectful and they waiting for you they like yeah have flowers you know in our
03:03:03
Jannaculture candies flowers paint for everything for no one asking so they don't wait like when like but they could be asses too I mean of course absolutely
03:03:15
Jannaabsolutely I mean it's just cultural aspect okay so I I'm not saying that like yeah so um no never okay what about
03:03:24
Tarayou uh no roster but I obviously am open to that because I do open relationship dating
03:03:33
Tessaso okay what about you ever had a roster no zero I have uh agreement with myself that if I feel the need to be with some else I shouldn't be with the person that
03:03:45
TessaI'm with right now exactly okay whether it's talking to them or you know talking stage situationship whatever and I I tell my partner that I feel the same
03:03:56
Rainawith them okay all right um I've been like pursued by multiple people at the same time and like been asked out on a first date
03:04:08
Rainaaround the same time but like I would never be exclusive with someone and have like other guys in my phone or anything sure well I don't think that's so much what the roster is it's like prior to establishing
03:04:23
Brian Atlasexclusivity is it is that the definition of a roster typically I mean obvious because obviously if you're exclusive with somebody it would be considered
03:04:33
Brian Atlascheating right whereas a lot of people prior to establishing exclusivity will be dating and or sleeping with multiple people at the same same time now I know that's certainly not the case for you at
03:04:46
Rainaleast when it comes cuz you know you haven't been intimate with somebody yet but that's my view of it yeah I feel like a roster from what I understand it
03:04:56
Rainato be is like before you're exclusive with someone like you're in the talking stage cuz yeah if you were exclusive with someone then that would be cheating so it's like you're in a talking stage
03:05:08
Rainawith multiple different guys maybe going out with multiple different guys at once right and being like Oh which one is going to like who am I going to pick
03:05:16
Brian Atlaskind of thing got it uh wait who I wrote down a note here red flag X who was that about was that about you
03:05:27
Brian Atlasdid you have a red flag X oh was that you I said I was still friends with my ex oh still friends with the ex that's
03:05:35
Brian Atlasright um okay what what did I want to uh do you think I guess going around the table do you think think it's a red
03:05:44
Brian Atlasflag if your significant other is still friends with their ex if you're not okay with it then yes it's a red
03:05:54
SPEAKER_08flag okay I think it's a red flag do you hear that is that coming from it's in the
03:06:04
Brian Atlasbathroom oh yeah just playing in the bathroom oh okay what the [ __ ] it's fine don't worry don't worry about it ni don't worry go ahead um yes I think it's
03:06:14
Mandya red flag cuz personally me I just I wouldn't like that at all you know okay uh so the there is a reason why it
03:06:26
Oxanais X right that means that something didn't work out but I think people should be communicating with xes only if there is kids involved um everything else is just X that's
03:06:37
Jannait yeah for for me it's same and I would see it's okay if a man are in a good relationship for me it will be a green flag instead of red flag if he has
03:06:48
Jannareally cool relationships with ex and they have kids yeah okay uh can you restate the question
03:06:57
Tessaokay skip what about you um I I totally agree I think it's a red flag uh there's a reason they're not in your life anymore there's a reason you're not with them every single day you're not
03:07:09
Tessapursuing them it's just drama I think if you're still in that area uh like you said though if there are children involved I think you have a uh a job to stay civil and do that for your children
03:07:22
Tessabecause you two are the ones that decided to have ch children together exactly yeah I think it's a red flag I would not be okay with that
03:07:32
Brian Atlasokay okay all right cool cool okay got that out of here got that out of here okay let me pull up my notes here actually let's do a couple chats since there's been a few people waiting here
03:07:43
Brian Atlaslet me get this one uh actually wait we'll come back to that one uh cuz we have some other that came in a little uh okay we have Papito subito Matchmaker in your experience what are
03:07:55
Oxanathe key factors that lead to long- lasting relationships and marriages communication communication is got to have the communication yeah yeah no matter how strong the chemistry is if
03:08:07
Oxanasex is good whatever if communication is not there we will get divorced so communication is not number one got to have communication communication and chemistry those two things communication
03:08:17
Brian Atlasfirst we have hop girl in the back left red shirt you seem like you're a little more masculine than the normal women what is your type do you go for super
03:08:29
Brian Atlasmasculine men bet beta males or something else # tomboys for the win yeah um I have a thing for Cowboys uh
03:08:42
Tessafor specifically Ranch Bron riters which is also what I do in the rodeo um so it's very odd I don't think I search
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Tessanecessarily for masculine non-masculine I I definitely think I couldn't dat a man say that you painted his nails not you know
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Tessano um but you know a man that will go ride a horse with me and go fishing uh that's someone that I want around for the rest of my life cuz that's what I'm going to be doing for the rest of my
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Tessalife um so I I don't think it's necessarily masculinity or a man that's more in touch with his feminine side I think it's if you can connect with me on that
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Brian Atlaslevel of things that I like to do no judgment I'm happy with that okay there you have it there you have it we have Nickelodeon here Brian's
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Brian Atlasso desperate he got to find his guests on wish cardi D plus Billy ish Teeter Andrew Tate's criminal record black
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Tessawidow's costume If Only They sold brain cells I'm not sure which one's Billy ish I'm not sure which one's there's a lot more people in here than that too so I'd love to know what the rest of us are
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Brian Atlasthey need to pay more and tell us please yes please more money come on Chop Chop yeah which which one is Billy ish and which one's teer I don't know who that I assume this black widow over here I've
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Rainaactually been told that I look like Billy ish before but I could see that okay that might I don't really see it but yeah there you go okay you look like
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Brian Atlasa rodri the all right we have uh David Steiner to the Matchmaker I'm in my 30s introvert love flannels and
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Brian Atlas'90s grunge I'm looking for a woman less than 5 feet oh my God this is this is me isn't it uh loves to Bow and has a low
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Brian Atlasbody count the the larger the labia #blm big labia matter uh what are my chances of finding this special
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Oxanasomeone well the first question would be uh Define what is the special someone I mean just uh less than five feet what what else is there
03:11:03
Brian Atlasso this guy is talking about me I'm pretty sure in 30s introvert left lanel 90s grunge looking for a woman less than 5T yes he is
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Oxanaloves to Bow and has a low body count and a large large laia BLM that would be easy then yeah so I would um absolutely if desire is there like if you would
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Brian Atlaswant that yes like you know find special someone right and she doesn't have to be have a desire so got to have a desire let's pull up
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Brian Atlasthe Bowing video let me show you the bow go ahead Nick boom huge oh my do you see that bow that's respect I need the
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Brian Atlasbow if there's no bow I can't I can't do it can't do the if there's no bow can't I can't do it I can't I need a bow I need a bow look how attentive she is oh
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Brian Atlasmy I get home I long day of podcasting she's got I don't I don't drink beer I don't drink uh look she's gonna she's gonna I don't know what she's doing to
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Brian Atlasthe noodles she's she's uh spinning the noodles I guess look how attentive oh look CRA Bo CRA you need you need I don't know if
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Oxanait's crazy eyes it looks like ative eyes she has very attentive eyes I don't know if that's crazy as I'm pretty certain that you would be also very happy to come home to the
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Oxanawoman who is dressed up all sexy and honey finally you're home let me give you a massage let me like even without the bow would you settle for for that picture like I'm preparing is nonnegotiable
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Oxanawith HS and bow you would not let bow go for woman who is super attentive and wants to give you a massage and relax your muscles I see that you are sitting
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Oxanahere you know with all this you know and she would be she would be just making you feel incredible and you would forget about your work and hold on just
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TTS/Donationsbackports donated $100 I called the Horse girls type from the beginning it is how I called the Ford truck and stepson dude is probably practical with his time and money Works
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TTS/Donationssix days a week and no more than two beers a day we work seven days a week but yes wow we live where we work so oh
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Oxanayou guys H uh work at the same place yes okay interesting interesting so you were saying thank you grid one thank you I
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Oxanawas saying and I'm certain like 100% you would let B go if all the other things were there I'm I'm I mean I'm being no I'm being fous I don't need the
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Oxanabow it's not she's a 10 but she doesn't bow is there a chance for you absolutely so this guy was asking but I do feel
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TTS/Donationslike I could make a good case for B I can make a very good case for donated $100 Brian I'm just catching up what the
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TTS/Donations[ __ ] did Red Top across from Brian say Miss conit Red Top say again I'm [ __ ]
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TTS/Donationsdead those lashes killing brain cells DV Danel Beach # what is d v she never said she was a feminist she said you were not a feminist what the
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Mandyhell he wants you to say it one more time can you say it one more time no into the mic do it do I'm not saying it again come on come on come on come on it wasn't cute cuz you guys are making fun of her so I'm actually going to take
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Tessathis one if you guys could really just [ __ ] off what thanks why next question it's not nice let's keep it moving well they did call her a feminist and she did say that she was not a feminist so incorrect on the last part just like you
03:14:51
Brian Atlascorrected her saying hookups you could have easily corrected her saying misogynistic it was well okay hold on the way she said it was funny let's not get overly offended it was funny it's not a big deal isting saying you don't
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Brian Atlashave to ask me repetedly times well yeah because it was it was the way you were saying it was funny yeah you knew what I was saying huh you knew what I was saying I yes I knew what you were saying but the way you were saying it was funny are
03:15:17
Brian Atlasyou guys really that offended over this can't you guys like I mean it was funny at first when I mispronounced [ __ ] like y'all I I hak Jak there's this guy where are you
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Mandymon I I don't know how to pronounce some words it was funny the first time when you asked now it's just not funny so oh well that wasn't me that was my super chatter well super chatter you were biting first so now we're biting back
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Tessawe're saying [ __ ] off next question oo that's that just means they have to pay more money to bite back so keep paying money to bite back keep buying please see but I feel like you're you're blowing out of proportion whereas you
03:15:51
Brian Atlascould yeah a little bit you could well if I am you could just yeah okay hold on I will I will dictate the pace of the podcast okay
03:16:02
Brian Atlasrelax I think like if you just instead of getting upset about it if you just almost leaned into it like let me do it again like that would almost come off better than being like Oh no I
03:16:14
Brian Atlasaccidentally mispronounced a word how dare you bring that back up that I mispronounced a word like I I don't fault her for mispronounce excuse me bro I stutter over here too they roast the
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] out of me I [ __ ] stutter I mispronounce [ __ ] it's not a big deal I would have almost like I think the better move would be to lean into it and be like let me say one more time I just she's not you that's she just doesn't
03:16:39
Brian Atlaswant to say it that's it we're not getting why you don't you okay but why are that's my friend that's what I do yeah but she can speak for herself she said it already don't want to say it I
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Brian Atlasdon't have to say it again you no you I mean you you don't but uh okay you could have just leaned into it but you can make jokes about my accent it's okay yeah okay problem we're going to say
03:17:01
Brian Atlaslots of wrong words apparently I sound like I'm Canadian so we're loving it moving on no if people don't like it it's okay of course I think what he's trying to do though to
03:17:12
Brian Atlasbe fair is there you haven't really said a lot so I think he's trying to reel you into the conversation a little bit I'll talk I just don't want to say the word again okay all right that's
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Tessafine that's fine I think it's also probably a reaction that he's fishing for you know there is this also this thing called The Strand effect it could be possible that we're going to get some more
03:17:37
Brian Atlascomments about that okay move the guy just was atted wait so uh did you get to finish on this uh I don't remember uh
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Oxanabowing the Bowing yeah large labia yeah I mean low body I do believe by the end of this podcast we will fix you where you going to be like I want a
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Oxanawife and I want to be the best husband in the world and I'm going to get her and I'm ready and committed and because he's already showed that he's coachable
03:18:08
Oxanabecause he started paying for the first date so the hope is there he he he he's still kind of on the fence but uh yeah listen I'm high maintenance I'm going to
03:18:18
Brian Atlasadmit it I am high maintenance and you should be absolutely the woman you need toine and dine me you ladies got to whine and dine me I need back massages and bowing so yeah you got to give the
03:18:31
Oxanainstructions to your woman ja school girl outfits I need a lot I need a lot from my woman and it's not a lot it's complicated she will deliver four or five of the items out of 20 from your list you will be already happy and you
03:18:44
Brian Atlaslike honey you a little tying up is sometimes fun you know never say never what huh I don't what when it what what about when it comes to you getting
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Brian Atlastied up no exactly never say never come on now no exactly I I cannot I don't want no no no no no no yeah exactly exactly absolutely not but the end of
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Oxanathe year Brian is married I don't know and you're going to you're going to make it happen well he has you will be happy for the rest of your life I can guarantee you that because I'm going to be on the top always no on
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Oxanathe top of your relationship I do prefer woman right away I know I do prefer I am going to be guiding your woman I'm going to be coaching her like
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Brian Atlaslook okay girl on top is my favorite position like not talking about you like I do I will create an ideal woman I want to be in control but girl on top like
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Brian Atlasyou know it it the minimum effort Max maximum pleasure I love it it's great it's great and you have access what
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Oxanawhat it will be like ideal absolutely ideal woman yeah your wife I'm not going to get married though I don't think I can be well you see to to get all of
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Oxanathose uh gifts that I'm just describing here the only thing that requires is the key and key to the garden and garden yes
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Brian Atlasto the Garden yes is this a sex inuendo the [ __ ] Garden from the Bible the Bible theard this Garden the titties
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Oxanano this Garden this Secret Garden The Secret Garden yes and the key is the ring you just put it in there and I've gone to the secret garden before you haven't got it totally secret that was
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Oxananot secret whatever whatever you had before it was not yes it was not special are you saying I like hooked up with like a transgender it takes no I'm saying that it takes a very special
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Oxanaactually The Secret Garden it takes a very special woman it was the secret to get man to get the man to the point that he wants just make it awkward to
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TTS/Donationsmake to make donated $100 to Red Top you know you're very pretty but playing to cool for school isn't attractive for folks that know
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Tessawhat they want who's red which Red Top her or her nine liner RH which who we talking about red shirt and R I feel like that's
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Tessathe when they've referred to me they've said red button up or horse girl so I do think it's her how is she acting too cool for SCH
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Brian Atlasshe's asking for respect can you like elaborate on that uh yeah please elaborate L9
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Oxanaler 100 more bucks right now 200 200 playing go ahead go ahead The Secret
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OxanaGarden or whatever yeah so uh that's it
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Oxanatakes a very special woman to make a man to want to marry her okay to make kiss
03:21:56
Brian Atlasfor the rest of the life oh I could have a long-term life partner girlfriend whatever but marriage I guess that means never there's like a
03:22:06
Brian Atlaslike a pin there is a 1% chance I will get married there's still a chance you see there's still a chance how tall are you I'm
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Tessa[Laughter] [Music]
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Tessa411 so he made fun of you for your your your speech but because you're
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Celeste411 Red Top will you marry me doesn't even Mar no oh what
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Brian Atlasoh damn yo Rip's in the chat boys 411 I lost it I lost it I [ __ ] it up with the misogyny thing I was in I was in I
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Brian Atlaswas in you're still was so and then I had to make fun of her because of the MOG you did have it in the bag but then you left I had in the bag I had in the bag 411 boys 411 and I can I redeem do
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Brian Atlasyou think I can redeem is there Redemption everybody loves a comeback story a Redemption Arc God Redemption Arc maybe
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Jannaokay there is a chance starting working all right second day Third Day loose [ __ ] energy donated
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TTS/Donations$100 white top 304 your friend can talk for herself she can't even even pronounce the words she using against Brian learn to speak cash
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Brian Atlasme outside how about that take it back you don't want the smoke but I do what I think that's directed at you do you want to respond to wait please use his name
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Mandywhen responding go ahead oh use his name refer say his name oh my God say his name say it loose [ __ ] energy right is that Lo [ __ ] Energy who said that I
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Brian Atlasdidn't want the smoke oh do you want smoke let's go let's go Mandy Mo huh
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Brian Atlasgirl Mandy um more only fan subscribers a 304 is crazy oh [ __ ] that's crazy that's crazy son um LP what you doing what are you doing what are you doing
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Brian Atlasloose [ __ ] energy loose [ __ ] energy what are you doing what are you doing Brian what were we talking about I don't even know I'm your hype man what do you think about this I'm your hype man about
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Mandywhat this lose [ __ ] Energy that's an first off 304 is an area code do you know what 304 stands for no what what does it stand for um I don't know it's
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Mandylike stands for like like am I correct me if I'm wrong anybody but I'm pretty sure it means prostitution B she was a HOA oh girl
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Brian Atlas305 oh ho like you never heard um holy [ __ ] I'm just finding I thought it literally I thought it was an area code this entire time no 304 me
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Brian AtlasFrost I thought it was an area code that okay wait what were we talking about before this that's not my area code also
03:25:21
Brian Atlaslisten can I ask you a question is English your second language no it's my first and only language cuz oh okay okay I was trying to like build commonality because like English is my second
03:25:31
Brian Atlaslanguage so it's my story you mix like messed up I French is my first language that's why I'm I I cannot properly form a sentence
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Brian Atlas[ __ ] ever because English is my first sorry French is my first see I can't speak guys English is my second language too can you spit something in
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JannaFrench I know he's making the comeback would you like to sleep with me tonight said actually and it's from the
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Jannasong yeah I know that's why yeah so was it an open question or just CIT cting I mean what is that word ah
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Jannait's a Russian word it's uh bat oh my God he goes what does he goes bad okay what is that what is it means a bad man
03:26:23
Brian Atlasbad girl bad situation you can use it whatever Fu it means like ex [ __ ] [ __ ] okay I see I see let me get into my notes Here we have notes from some of you guys or sure wait let's do twitch do we need let's do twitch really quick
03:26:36
Brian Atlasguys go to twitch.tv oh my bad go ahead Nick oh can you exile to that down there thank you we have uh I'm trying to remember where I
03:26:48
Brian Atlasleft off did I do Hitman than for the tier one alpha Smasher thank for the prime Richard oberly thank for the tier one oh I think I already got these my bad Duckman thank for the prime uh guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a
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Brian Atlasfollow drop us a prime sub if you have one thank you guys thank you all right let me get into my notes Here I got to get through these notes hopefully before the end of the show so okay let's see uh
03:27:14
Brian Atlasyou said that celibacy is underrated oh [ __ ] yo AB Che thank you very much man thank you AB Che you are a gentleman and
03:27:26
Nicolea scholar and a legend thank you man appreciate it in your appre notes to us you said celibacy is underrated how so to each their own that's just kind of more of a personal preference but I just
03:27:38
Nicoleum I don't know I feel like there's a lot of unhealed people and um I don't know Sexual Healing have you heard of that sure Sexual Healing Marin Marvin
03:27:51
Brian Atlasyou're problem teach their own teach their own so well you've been celibate right you or you are celibate how long have you been celibate again um over a
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Brian Atlasyear over a year yeah okay um wait but you've been single for three years so this was that just like a
03:28:11
Nicoleshort-term thing or like a friends with benefits or was it your ex no was not my ex I just kind of like did it around a little bit but I don't know just like per personal preference I've just been inside with my grandmother and like
03:28:24
TTS/Donationsyou've been inside of your grandmother I've been unated $100 chicks don't know how to roll with the punches cuz they've never been hit big mouth shouldn't be so eager to
03:28:35
Brian Atlasexperience it to finish the list Big Mouth literally Melania Frump smoky SMY bear
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Brian Atlaswhat nickon hello I'm so confused I kind of I think I know who he's talking about who okay thank you Nickelodeon appreciate it appreciate it uh you said
03:28:58
Nicoleyou were what with your I've been caring for my grandmother fulltime she's 97 so I've just been ins you buy Tak care of her yeah yeah and I feel like when you're in a relationship and if you're hooking up
03:29:10
Brian Atlasyou can easily like Overlook things because you have that emotional cont uh emotional connection on like a deeper level having that intimacy yeah word
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Brian Atlasokay uh okay so question for the whole panel related to celibacy how long do you
03:29:29
Brian Atlasthink you should wait you like to wait before having sex with somebody new go ahead I think it just depends
03:29:39
Nicolewhen the vibe is right first night I'm with you okay I agree um to each their own I just kind of like to get to know the person a little bit before
03:29:54
Nicoleyeah I wouldn't say there's like a set time let me ask you okay sure sure sure well you've been sell it for a year
03:30:00
Brian AtlasMH let's say um that super studly soy boy feminist traditional guy he's he's he's feminist but also super based traditional but
03:30:13
Brian Atlasalso feminist but also wants to pay for first AIDS but also so a feminist he comes around and he's like by the way what's your first
03:30:24
Nicolename again I just have you ritten here as yikes call me yikes that's what I no what's your first name no just call me yikes that's fine wait what did she introduce her what I I'd actually prefer yikes but just say your first name is it
03:30:36
Nicolesomething weird like Gert opal no Nicole but I just like yikes I think I'll call you Nicole cuz yikes y why why first
03:30:46
Nicolewhat's the origin story for the yikes oh are you just yikes I just been my username for a long time yikes how did you get it by the way I feel like You' having a phone and like early access to
03:30:58
NicoleInstagram when did you register that cuz I feel like that would have been well you have y1k yes yeah but even that I feel like would have been swooped so did you buy it no I did not buy it I got it
03:31:11
Brian Atlaswhen I was in like Middle School oh okay that's right oh you've had it for a minute then yeah is that your rapper poet name is yikes that's um well on do you have a SoundCloud by the way I do
03:31:22
Nicolehave a SoundCloud but I don't like post anything on it um but on the X app I do have a book club so if anybody wants to join my book club book and poetry at yikes with a one instead of an i poet on
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Brian Atlasthe xap oh you guys should join that shut the [ __ ] oh sorry Sor sorry I didn't mean to press that I'm bad my bad
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Brian Atlasmy bad um wait so okay that's lame no that that was in unintentional my bad um I I was going to press a different one but that one accidentally got pressed uh
03:31:57
Brian Atlasokay how long do you think you should wait before like you meet
03:32:03
Brian Atlasthis super traditional feminist guy who's also liberal but tradition
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Nicolehow long you going to okay I'm not going off of like a basis of like those labels but he's also really hot that doesn't really matter to me to be honest looks don't matter to you no
03:32:25
TTS/Donationsnot in particular no only your own I like looking good I'm just I'm just wondering oh Richard donated $100 I am ready to subscribe to miss
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TTS/Donationsblue to set me up with Miss yellow is one of the best streams ever oh oh they unfortunately yeah unfortunately you can't read the uh Russian actually wait wait wait wait I'm
03:32:49
Brian AtlasGNA do this guy a favor here I'm gonna switch it I'm G to switch the language to a Russian thing so I can then and I'll re-trigger it and I'll see if it works go ahead do you want to answer while I do that is there a
03:33:02
Brian Atlasquestion in it there I don't know it sounds like you're about to answer he wants
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Oxanayou come and give me get get me get I will give you my love she's ready she's ready to be a
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Oxanawife is it romantic enough and she's going to be a perfect perfect wife I Richard I'm doing you a solid here I'm doing you a solid it's going to be so
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SPEAKER_09bad all right I am ready to subscribe to miss blue to set them up with Miss yellow Bri one
03:33:49
Oxanaof so basically what it says yellow girl you are the sunlight for my for my eyes and my ears everything that you saying
03:33:59
Brian Atlasis spot on that's so cute very cute thank you so much that was beautiful Richard thank you thank you okay if anybody I'm I'm going to change it to jaanese so
03:34:11
Brian Atlassomebody drop some Japanese [ __ ] right now I've changed it to Japanese for one message drop a [ __ ] Japanese [ __ ] okay not actually a [ __ ] but you know
03:34:22
Nicolewhatever um so I'm picky I have standards if they're meeting like standards Shey and there's a relationship established and they're respectful like sure question the last
03:34:35
Brian Atlasguy that you hooked up with how long did you wait before hooking up um a while a
03:34:45
Brian Atlaswhile so like a week months months yeah talk closer months months each other uh what about your
03:34:57
Brian Atlasthree-year boyfriend how long did you wait for him months months yeah okay she's got a standard she sticks to it she's very picky how are you picky I'm just curious um well i' like to get to know the person first like establish a
03:35:09
Brian Atlasfriendship and then see where that goes um oh and yeah oh okay MH height does height matter you like
03:35:20
Brian Atlasshort guys tall guys at least like a little bit taller than me or well how tall are you I'm like 5 six yeah so like you're too far from the mic I prefer do this scoot the mic this way a
03:35:32
Brian Atlaslittle bit scoot into the table because you have plenty of space to scoot to the table okay you prefer taller how tall are you 5 six what's so what's like do
03:35:42
Brian Atlasyou have a bare minimum height like 510 6 feet no no but I prefer a taller guy PR okay that's fine that's valid uh okay
03:35:52
Brian Atlasyou're picky wait so hold
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Brian Atlason guys got to pay for everything okay all right whatever I'm not going to get back to the ho the paying [ __ ] that's just we drag that one too long how long do you think you should wait Mandy Moore um uh Mandy
03:36:11
Mandysorry sorry s sorry sorry do whatever you want at this point um I said do whatever you want at this point um I'm talking about my current status
03:36:22
Mandyum I'm going say like the third date that man is fine third date so fine yeah your current man is fine mhm so fine okay and also shout out to the short Kings we love a short King yes for real
03:36:33
Oxanathey will climb this tree climb thise climb it how long do you think uh still the point that he
03:36:42
Oxanaknows that I am the one to the point thatth he is willing to propose uh marriage I I tried to practice that with my husband and it didn't work so he
03:36:53
Oxanabroke me on a week number um uh week number no month number two yeah so but we together we actually
03:37:02
Oxanaspend 24 hours only because we had like two hours each date interesting but but okay the point until he knows that she
03:37:12
Brian Atlasis the one yes every woman that I've slept with I knew she was the one that's why until it didn't work until it didn't exactly yeah you see you
03:37:24
Oxanasingle sitting here still waiting for the you know right person yeah yeah okay good talk what about you I'm very boring here you
03:37:34
Jannaknow because for me um I have no standards I mean in height in eye color in nationality to match as well but I
03:37:45
Jannaneed to build some bond to be very into this person to see that I he can be my future husband you know when I reach
03:37:55
Jannathis point that this person um kind of spiritually wise uh kind of yo doc theé thank you for the gifted 20
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Jannamemberships thank you thank you man really appreciate your support thank you dude thank you thank you yeah so I never had uh sex on a third date for example I don't I don't judge I think uh
03:38:19
Jannaeverything is cool when it suits to people for me it doesn't like work like this I need to go into this person know his brain usually it was like