33 Year Old VIRGIN?! 5 Threesomes At *18*?! | Dating Talk #108
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
Key Moments
“I've never I've never dated never really been interested in dating... not even a crush in high school”
“I think I'm somewhere on that spectrum... I hesitate to use the word asexual... it's been kind of taken over by the woke mob”
“I would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person... it could be are you would you be let's say you're like 45”
“I would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person like 100% rather rather die a virgin 100%”
“they were great the chyia not so great... they denied it even after I told them but it was fine they were”
“five five threesoms MH and but was it each one was like with a different group of people yes”
“I walked up to his brother which was not him... I proceeded to have some fun with his brother... he left me at the he left me in a different city on the side of the road”
“he would like expect sex... he'd be like I'm a horny little like teenage boy what do you expect... he would call you names he wouldn't let you go outside and shorts or a tank top”
“I think it's misogynistic to say that like there's a difference between the weight that a woman's body count holds and a man's body count”
“I wish I could go back and be a virgin I really do... I see how my brother my brother just had a baby he's married he's having a lovely life”
“there's the trades gap there's the dangerous jobs gap 97 something like 97% of workplace deaths are men... more likely to die on the job gap more likely to be electrocuted to death gap”
“he found me cuz he was my sister's sugar daddy... he hit me up at 15 I didn't respond to him until I was no 17... he's still your sugar daddy how much... probably like three grand”
“he would refer to his like dick as a bulge and he'd be like I'm bulging I'm bulging... he sent me a picture of his dick and it was 14 in long”
Topics Discussed
Brian opens show from Santa Barbara; mentions co-host Kiki (shy). Guests introduce: Greta (18, SBCC psychology/caregiver; mic issues initially), Parisa (18, SBCC English), Sienna (18, SBCC biology/nursing), Lauren (33, GBI agent trainee from Maine — virgin centerpiece), Courtney Ferris (27, Death to Digital agency co-founder), Julia (29, tech consultant), Steve (26, executive protection/entrepreneur, LA), Madison (18, Whatever Podcast staff/SBCC).
Round of current relationship statuses: Greta (single 2yr, FWB sneaky link), Parisa (single 1 month), Sienna (new relationship 1 month), Lauren (never been in a relationship, never dated — extended discussion), Julia (relationship 2yr), Steve (single since May 2022), Madison (relationship 1+ year). Lauren's situation dominates the round — deep dive into her virginity, asexuality, dating abstinence, and standards.
Extended segment on Lauren's 33-year virginity. Brian probes: never dated, no in-person attraction, possibly asexual but avoids label, would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person, only attracted to Paul Walker type. Discussion of her connection-only requirement, divorced parents, college at U of Southern Maine. Steve and others react with disbelief. Lauren describes wanting only a long-term relationship (no marriage, no kids), not actively seeking, in her "let go and let God era."
Brian reads Greta's pre-show notes. 5 threesomes at 18 — details of each. Married couple on Tinder gave her chlamydia. Smoke shop mix-up: accidentally hooked up with wrong brother (Bobby vs Billy), got abandoned in another city while drunk. Marine boyfriend tried to marry her after brief relationship. Ex-boyfriend with one testicle (testicular torsion/implosion). General dating philosophy: wants chivalry and flowers but also casual hookup freedom.
Debate over whether men should pay for dates and practice chivalry. Greta: men should open doors and buy flowers. Brian: romantic gestures should be contingent on women moving traditionally/exclusively. Courtney: men create the environment; women shouldn't have to prove themselves first. Extended debate over whether current dating marketplace makes traditional gestures by men irrational.
Brian reads Sienna's pre-show notes. 2018-2020 relationship: emotionally and physically abusive boyfriend. He required sex to give her attention, sent her a screenshot of him texting another girl without breaking up first, made her pay for everything, restricted her clothing, made misogynistic rape victim-blaming comments (the final straw), attempted to use fireworks on her. Discussion of sex withholding dynamics in relationships.
Debate: should partners feel obligated to fulfill each other sexually? Brian argues dead bedrooms indicate incompatibility; men should be able to leave if sexually unfulfilled. Greta counters sex must be fully voluntary. Courtney cites Bible verse (do not withhold your body from your partner). Steve shares Miami situationship story: both gave silent treatment when declining sex.
Discussion of whether women in relationships should post revealing photos online or go out partying frequently. Brian: women should keep some modesty in photos when in a committed relationship. Courtney: posting does not imply infidelity. Steve: women at clubs/bars create vulnerability situations. Debate over control vs. trust.
Greta: stopped dating men because everyone cheats. Parisa: 99% of men will cheat. Brian: women cheat as much as men; both sexes in hookup culture. Discussion of what counts as cheating (porn, only fans, going to clubs). Debate over whether college relationships work. Courtney shares personal anecdote of respecting herself by staying after she clearly wasn't being respected.
Each guest states whether they identify as feminist: Greta (yes, girls' girl), Parisa (yes, inequalities exist), Sienna (yes, raised that way), Lauren (not today's feminism), Courtney (no), Julia (yes for 1st wave suffrage only), Steve (no), Madison (no). Extended debate on wage gap: Parisa says it exists, Brian says it's been debunked. Discussion of women's occupational choices, hazardous work gaps, work-life balance differences. Brian lists 15+ "gaps" men face (dangerous jobs, overtime, commute, etc.).
Key-in-lock theory debate. Brian argues high body count is undesirable in both sexes but especially in women due to attachment. Parisa: body count double standard is misogynistic. Courtney: past is past, it's about current character. Body count reveals at ~303min: Madison=8, Greta=16, Lauren=0 (virgin), Parisa declined, Sienna declined, Steve declined (Navy joke), Brian "more than one."
Continuation of feminism debate: Parisa argues for complete equality including men's issues. Discussion of abortion (California context). Brian: modern feminism is a corporate psyop to double the labor pool. Extended debate on whether gynocentric society exists. Brian lists men's systematic disadvantages.
Self-rated looks (1-10): Julia=7 then revised to 10, Parisa=7, Sienna=7.5, Courtney=8 then 10 (noting boyfriend was watching), Steve=8.5, Madison=6. Brian declines to rate panel; says he cannot pick 7.
Greta: sister's former sugar daddy found her via Venmo; first contact at 15 (ignored), resumed at 17-18; received ~$3,000 total. Sienna: sugar daddy sent ~$350 via Snapchat; became creepy (called himself "bulging"), she stopped contact after he sent unsolicited photo.