33 Year Old VIRGIN?! 5 Threesomes At *18*?! | Dating Talk #108

Date: 2023-10-11
Duration: 5h 40m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_02Courtney Ferris(guest)
SPEAKER_03Greta(guest)
SPEAKER_04Sienna(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kiki(audience)
SPEAKER_06Julia(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_09Steve(guest)
SPEAKER_11Noise/Laughter(audience)
SPEAKER_12Lauren(guest)
SPEAKER_13Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_14Parisa(guest)

Key Moments

00:07:00
Key Moment33-year-old virgin Lauren discusses her complete lack of in-person sexual attraction. Never been on a date, never had a crush in real life, never experienced attraction sufficient to pursue anyone. In 33 years, not one person has triggered pursuit. Only celebrity she finds attractive: Paul Walker.

I've never I've never dated never really been interested in dating... not even a crush in high school

00:09:16
QuoteLauren describes herself as "somewhere on the asexual spectrum" but avoids the label due to it being "taken over by the woke mob."

I think I'm somewhere on that spectrum... I hesitate to use the word asexual... it's been kind of taken over by the woke mob

00:14:38
Key MomentLauren says she would rather die a virgin than settle, even at 45. Brian challenges whether she is waiting for a unicorn that does not exist.

I would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person... it could be are you would you be let's say you're like 45

00:18:59
QuoteLauren states she would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person.

I would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person like 100% rather rather die a virgin 100%

00:26:09
Key MomentGreta reveals she contracted chlamydia from a married couple she met via Tinder (her friend found them). The couple denied it afterward. Greta found out via regular STI testing.

they were great the chyia not so great... they denied it even after I told them but it was fine they were

00:34:41
Key MomentGreta reveals she had 5 threesomes by age 18. Brian is visibly surprised and confirms the count.

five five threesoms MH and but was it each one was like with a different group of people yes

00:34:55
Key MomentGreta describes the smoke shop mix-up: drunk at the beach, met a guy's brother (Billy) instead of the intended contact (Bobby), hooked up with Billy, then Billy left her stranded in a different city.

I walked up to his brother which was not him... I proceeded to have some fun with his brother... he left me at the he left me in a different city on the side of the road

01:01:40
Key MomentSienna describes her abusive ex-relationship (2018-2020): he gave her silent treatment when she declined sex, cheated by texting another girl, made her pay for everything, restricted her clothing, and made misogynistic comments about assault victims.

he would like expect sex... he'd be like I'm a horny little like teenage boy what do you expect... he would call you names he wouldn't let you go outside and shorts or a tank top

03:26:38
QuoteParisa states that the body count double standard is misogynistic — that sex should weigh equally regardless of gender.

I think it's misogynistic to say that like there's a difference between the weight that a woman's body count holds and a man's body count

05:08:28
QuoteSteve says he wishes he could go back and be a virgin, seeing his married brother's life as a model.

I wish I could go back and be a virgin I really do... I see how my brother my brother just had a baby he's married he's having a lovely life

05:10:17
QuoteBrian lists 15+ systematic disadvantages men face in the workplace (dangerous jobs, overtime, commute, etc.) in response to the wage gap discussion.

there's the trades gap there's the dangerous jobs gap 97 something like 97% of workplace deaths are men... more likely to die on the job gap more likely to be electrocuted to death gap

05:28:06
Key MomentGreta reveals her sugar daddy story: her sister's former sugar daddy found her via Venmo, first messaged when she was 15 (ignored), then at 17 (ghosted), resumed contact after 18; sent approximately $3,000 total.

he found me cuz he was my sister's sugar daddy... he hit me up at 15 I didn't respond to him until I was no 17... he's still your sugar daddy how much... probably like three grand

05:30:31
Key MomentSienna describes a sugar daddy who became creepy: referred to his genitals as "bulging," sent an unsolicited photo, she stopped contact. Received approximately $350 total.

he would refer to his like dick as a bulge and he'd be like I'm bulging I'm bulging... he sent me a picture of his dick and it was 14 in long

Topics Discussed

00:00:10
Guest Introductions

Brian opens show from Santa Barbara; mentions co-host Kiki (shy). Guests introduce: Greta (18, SBCC psychology/caregiver; mic issues initially), Parisa (18, SBCC English), Sienna (18, SBCC biology/nursing), Lauren (33, GBI agent trainee from Maine — virgin centerpiece), Courtney Ferris (27, Death to Digital agency co-founder), Julia (29, tech consultant), Steve (26, executive protection/entrepreneur, LA), Madison (18, Whatever Podcast staff/SBCC).

00:05:05
Relationship Status Round

Round of current relationship statuses: Greta (single 2yr, FWB sneaky link), Parisa (single 1 month), Sienna (new relationship 1 month), Lauren (never been in a relationship, never dated — extended discussion), Julia (relationship 2yr), Steve (single since May 2022), Madison (relationship 1+ year). Lauren's situation dominates the round — deep dive into her virginity, asexuality, dating abstinence, and standards.

00:07:00
Lauren's Virginity and Asexual Spectrum Identity

Extended segment on Lauren's 33-year virginity. Brian probes: never dated, no in-person attraction, possibly asexual but avoids label, would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person, only attracted to Paul Walker type. Discussion of her connection-only requirement, divorced parents, college at U of Southern Maine. Steve and others react with disbelief. Lauren describes wanting only a long-term relationship (no marriage, no kids), not actively seeking, in her "let go and let God era."

00:23:20
Greta's Threesome History and Dating Stories

Brian reads Greta's pre-show notes. 5 threesomes at 18 — details of each. Married couple on Tinder gave her chlamydia. Smoke shop mix-up: accidentally hooked up with wrong brother (Bobby vs Billy), got abandoned in another city while drunk. Marine boyfriend tried to marry her after brief relationship. Ex-boyfriend with one testicle (testicular torsion/implosion). General dating philosophy: wants chivalry and flowers but also casual hookup freedom.

00:43:20
Chivalry, Traditional Dating, and Men Paying

Debate over whether men should pay for dates and practice chivalry. Greta: men should open doors and buy flowers. Brian: romantic gestures should be contingent on women moving traditionally/exclusively. Courtney: men create the environment; women shouldn't have to prove themselves first. Extended debate over whether current dating marketplace makes traditional gestures by men irrational.

01:01:00
Sienna's Abusive Relationship

Brian reads Sienna's pre-show notes. 2018-2020 relationship: emotionally and physically abusive boyfriend. He required sex to give her attention, sent her a screenshot of him texting another girl without breaking up first, made her pay for everything, restricted her clothing, made misogynistic rape victim-blaming comments (the final straw), attempted to use fireworks on her. Discussion of sex withholding dynamics in relationships.

01:03:20
Sex Expectations in Committed Relationships

Debate: should partners feel obligated to fulfill each other sexually? Brian argues dead bedrooms indicate incompatibility; men should be able to leave if sexually unfulfilled. Greta counters sex must be fully voluntary. Courtney cites Bible verse (do not withhold your body from your partner). Steve shares Miami situationship story: both gave silent treatment when declining sex.

01:26:40
Social Media and Going Out in Relationships

Discussion of whether women in relationships should post revealing photos online or go out partying frequently. Brian: women should keep some modesty in photos when in a committed relationship. Courtney: posting does not imply infidelity. Steve: women at clubs/bars create vulnerability situations. Debate over control vs. trust.

02:06:00
Cheating, Hookup Culture, and Modern Dating

Greta: stopped dating men because everyone cheats. Parisa: 99% of men will cheat. Brian: women cheat as much as men; both sexes in hookup culture. Discussion of what counts as cheating (porn, only fans, going to clubs). Debate over whether college relationships work. Courtney shares personal anecdote of respecting herself by staying after she clearly wasn't being respected.

02:22:00
Feminism Round and Wage Gap Debate

Each guest states whether they identify as feminist: Greta (yes, girls' girl), Parisa (yes, inequalities exist), Sienna (yes, raised that way), Lauren (not today's feminism), Courtney (no), Julia (yes for 1st wave suffrage only), Steve (no), Madison (no). Extended debate on wage gap: Parisa says it exists, Brian says it's been debunked. Discussion of women's occupational choices, hazardous work gaps, work-life balance differences. Brian lists 15+ "gaps" men face (dangerous jobs, overtime, commute, etc.).

02:42:00
Body Count Discussion

Key-in-lock theory debate. Brian argues high body count is undesirable in both sexes but especially in women due to attachment. Parisa: body count double standard is misogynistic. Courtney: past is past, it's about current character. Body count reveals at ~303min: Madison=8, Greta=16, Lauren=0 (virgin), Parisa declined, Sienna declined, Steve declined (Navy joke), Brian "more than one."

04:55:00
Abortion, Feminism, and Equality Debate (Late Show)

Continuation of feminism debate: Parisa argues for complete equality including men's issues. Discussion of abortion (California context). Brian: modern feminism is a corporate psyop to double the labor pool. Extended debate on whether gynocentric society exists. Brian lists men's systematic disadvantages.

05:12:00
Ratings Round

Self-rated looks (1-10): Julia=7 then revised to 10, Parisa=7, Sienna=7.5, Courtney=8 then 10 (noting boyfriend was watching), Steve=8.5, Madison=6. Brian declines to rate panel; says he cannot pick 7.

05:34:30
Sugar Daddy Stories

Greta: sister's former sugar daddy found her via Venmo; first contact at 15 (ignored), resumed at 17-18; received ~$3,000 total. Sienna: sugar daddy sent ~$350 via Snapchat; became creepy (called himself "bulging"), she stopped contact after he sent unsolicited photo.

Transcript

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01:53:40
Gretaby other men you're put but she doesn't know yes gone to a club and I've never gotten hit don't don't be naive it's not not every single girl gets hit on the fact
01:53:52
Gretathat you're putting on all women that they get hit on when they go out to a club does it's not real it's pretty real so the guys that night didn't have the balls to go and talk to you but they were looking and they were thinking but
01:54:04
Gretathey have the courage to why is that my issue if a guy looked at me and thought I was cute I put myself in a position where people the issue with the environment but it's an issue with the
01:54:15
Gretaguy having his girlfriend go to a bar and somebody even if they didn't talk to me they're still going to be like oh well someone looked at you and they thought you looked cute so you shouldn't have gone out no I'm saying that's a one-off that for your situation you went
01:54:28
Gretaout and no one hit on you that's a one-off ex cor normally they do hit on you not normally it doesn't happen every time but it does and for a lot of people it doesn't happen at all that's kind of cap
01:54:40
Gretabut okay it's not a cap you know every woman do you know every girl is that that has gotten hit on no there are many people that have not not gotten hit on
01:54:51
Steveyeah if you're out at a club and you hold up a sign that says I want to get laid you're going to have a line of men walking up to each and every one of you if I do the same thing and I hope a sign
01:55:03
Stevesays I want to get laid I'm also going to have a line but full of men no woman is going to come up to me and say oh my God me me me because who who controls
01:55:12
Juliasex women women correct yeah I think it it look I think that going to Bar like if you're in the mindset of wanting to be in a long-term healthy relationship should you be going out to bars all the
01:55:25
Juliatime and doing the things that you do when you're like a young woman young single woman no so I completely agree with your argument Brian I just think that if if we're talking about the mindset of fidelity which I think at the core of your argument is that because
01:55:39
Juliayou talk about respecting your partner and that's the impetus for not doing that behavior then I think that it's also important to like talk about a thing that can be more put put men and
01:55:50
Juliawomen more equally which I think in this case would be male porn use because you're right a man going to a bar is not going to be treated the same way that a woman going to a bar would be so it's
01:56:00
Brian Atlasjust not fair right but very very simple just I mean don't date men that watch porn the difference is the difference is
01:56:10
Brian AtlasI don't think any man here is going to object to you having a preference or a standard for not wanting to date a man who watches porn Okay that's perfectly
01:56:21
Brian Atlasreasonable no woman is going to push back on you on that no man I mean I'm wondering if I've heard somebody say you're insecure as a woman
01:56:31
Brian Atlasif you have an issue with your partner watching porn it's certainly I've maybe heard that however you're certainly not going to get as much push back for your
01:56:42
Brian Atlasfor your uh Stander to preference as men are for not wanting a partner who doesn't go to bars clubs and parties men get shamed for having their preferences whenever a man has a
01:56:54
Juliapreference standard or boundary it's you're insecure you're a misogynist you're controlling um you're insecure you think you get that especially if you're an if you like make it clear that you are want
01:57:07
Brian Atlasa relationship like I can see that if you're yes women shame men's preferences standards and boundaries all the time men are not allowed to have preferences standards and boundaries it's almost always met with some kind of shaming
01:57:18
Julialanguage you're controlling you're insecure you're etc etc okay and Hector Rodriguez no I never was into the club life so to your point am I allowed to talk to these people one sec we we'll
01:57:29
Brian Atlasget to those um look I I think it's I'm going to give the dream world hypothetical scenario it's been so long time since I've done it to probably try to maybe drill into why men would care
01:57:40
Brian Atlasabout this and try to put yourselves in men's shoes um ultimately just look don't date women who put their relation put their relationship at risk or I do
01:57:51
Brian Atlasnot date uh women who will put our relationship at risk so I'm going to give a dream world hypothetical scenario to some of you hold on let me pull it up
01:57:59
Brian Atlashere I have it written down one sec so we're going to create let me see if I got a noise here I can play that well uh I don't know if I have one
01:58:16
Brian Atlas[Music] uh that's not really what I was going for but whatever okay dream world so we're going to create a dream world since let's be honest unless as a guy you're
01:58:27
Brian Atlassuper famous or like insanely attractive girls just do not hit up guys like in the example that I'm about to give so in the real world the vast majority of men who got to party parties clubs bars
01:58:40
Brian Atlasstraight up would get ignored if they don't make the first move so paid close attention close attention especially you Sienna especially you so would you be
01:58:50
Brian Atlasokay with your long-term monogamous partner going to a nightclub bar or party type environment where throughout the course of the night he's going to get approached flirted with and sexually
01:59:01
Brian Atlaspursued by numerous attractive women some of which are more attractive than you and could potentially be a better partner than you these women are buying him drinks getting him drunk and
01:59:12
Brian Atlasenthusiastically want to sleep with him that night and steal him away from you and there's a little more extra to it uh you're going to tell me you'd be okay with that if I trust him
01:59:27
Parisayeah if I trust him yeah um yeah but I also feel like it comes down to like what some of that stuff is because I feel like if you're going out and you're in a relationship um you shouldn't
01:59:40
Parisanecessarily be I don't know accepting drinks and playing into it but I think that if you're going out and you're turning things down then there's no issue with that okay I would not be okay
01:59:50
Courtney Ferriswith that um but I'm also not about that life so I don't I mean it's hard to speak to but okay yeah I wouldn't I would not be okay with that um I also wouldn't be okay with dating a man that
02:00:01
Courtney Ferrisgoes out constantly and drinks and has women constantly hitting on him to boost his ego but I would be okay with trusting my partner to go out and have a fun time with his friends I agree I
02:00:11
Madisonwould be very not okay with that um Madison I'd probably not be okay with that either and I feel like it's a like everyone's saying like trust your partner and obviously no matter what in
02:00:23
Madisonyour relationship with anyone that you are committed to you should have trust in your partner you just can't trust other people you know like you don't know what other people are going to do
02:00:32
Madisonto your boyfriend like you could easily have them swipe your boy and kiss him or whatever but like it's like not in your control that stuff has happened in front of my face
02:00:43
Gretabefore cuz women are kind of crazy sometimes exactly so it does happen and men are crazy too so yes the thing for me is like I would trust him and be fine with that if that's what ended up
02:00:55
Gretahappening but if he knew he was going out and that is what was going to happen if he like was aware of that then I'd be like okay don't do that but if he went out just going out to be with his
02:01:08
Gretabuddies and a bunch of girls are flirting with him it's kind of not it's not his fault for going out it's not because he went out everybody's flirting
02:01:17
Gretawith him it's other people's wanting to get with him and if he is secure enough in a relationship and I'm secure enough in a relationship then he will be able
02:01:27
Brian Atlasto be like no well I think part of it is you guys are def you guys obviously go out and party go out regularly you said you will go out four or five times a week so obviously you're going to want
02:01:39
Brian Atlasto defend the behavior that you yourself are engaging in but the whole point with the dream world hypothetical scenario is try to have you see because men care it
02:01:50
Brian Atlasseems to me that men care much more about this than do women and you often hear think men are more controlling about their partner going out into these types of environments again what I'm the point of the dream world hypothetical
02:02:03
Brian Atlasscenario what I just tried to paint for you is that's what we are contending with when our girlfriends our wives even go out to these types of venues men
02:02:14
Brian Atlasdon't get the same level of attention that even in average woman gets when going out to these types of environments you're going to because again men are
02:02:24
Brian Atlasthe pursu pursuers women are the P pursued so like the the difference of attention is absolutely insane between men and women it's totally different so
02:02:35
Brian Atlasthat's why men have a much more vested interest in trying to date women that don't put themselves in situationships that put their relationship at risk like that's just our masculine
02:02:48
Madisoninstinct to protect protect you and protect the relationship it's not okay whatever I'm not going to convince them okay whatever I also feel like if you are in a
02:02:58
Madisonlong-term committed like monogamous relationship your main priority is shouldn't be going out to party three or 4 days a week it should be being able to lift each other up try to make each
02:03:11
Madisonother better people try to push each other to climb the corporate ladder just do things like that and actually thinking about your future find financially I feel like you can do both
02:03:21
Courtney Ferrisand still be healthy I think that's but there's priority yeah do you know what I mean absolutely me and my boyfriends like our work is literally partying like we go
02:03:33
Courtney Ferrisout and we're with the DJ or with the artist or whomever and it that's what it is like we're there to get the content of the party but we do it together that's your work too though but we still have fun but we're also together so I
02:03:46
Siennathink both are definitely doable but there's and more meaning behind it if my boyfriend ever said don't go out I just wouldn't go out but oh there you go
02:03:56
Brian Atlascool sweet except for Raves I'm not giving up you're not giving up Raves that's that's a tough one yeah that's my hobby you wouldn't what I wouldn't give up Raves I really wouldn't give up
02:04:09
Gretaanything you wouldn't give up anything also not a committed relationship but also if I had a boyfriend and I'm not saying I'd go out and party every single
02:04:20
Gretanight but if I did you know prioritize our relationship do everything and our relationship was number one and I wanted to go out one night with my friends and he was like no boys are going to hit on
02:04:30
Gretayou I'd be like why don't you have trust in me that men can come and hit on me and I will just be like Oh yay like no I'll be like no I have a boyfriend I
02:04:41
Gretadon't want that and if I go out one night and every time if I want to go out which is not even a lot and they're going to be like oh no you can't do that I don't trust that and even if they give
02:04:52
Gretathe excuse like oh it's not you I don't trust I don't trust the men it's you initially don't trust me to say no to the men and you're just like putting it out that someone's going to hit on me
02:05:05
Brian Atlas100% when you don't know that see we're we're operating from a framework of people being perfect actors so can we
02:05:14
Brian Atlasall agree that people make mistakes people do you acknowledge people cheat what circumstances do you think infidelity isely to
02:05:25
Brian Atlasoccur versus what is alcohol involved are they meeting they're constantly meeting new men cuz if you're constantly
02:05:33
Gretatempted then I think if definely alcohol mentality you have on it it's if you have mentality like I don't want to be with this person I want to go out and talk to people I want to go get drunk
02:05:46
Gretaand flirt with people andar and look H dud and com on their profiles like it's there's other ways you can cheat there's other ways you can
02:05:56
Brian Atlascheat but exactly but you're you're trying to make it out to be like it's a trust thing it's just also a respect thing too like if one of my guy friends sees
02:06:07
Brian Atlasyou talking to another dude like most I I feel like most girls aren't going to be like if a guy comes and approaches you they might not like instantly nope get away boyfriend like that might be
02:06:19
Brian Atlaskind of rude you might talk to him or maybe that guy is one of your girlfriend's friends and so you're not going to [ __ ] right away you know so look you're just putting yourself in
02:06:31
Brian Atlasa it's just you're putting yourself in a position where infidelity is much more likely I see what you're saying but you've never you've never like heard
02:06:43
Brian Atlasstories of like people people going out and party in and then you see like maybe you have experiences you said men are [ __ ] men are cheaters where do you think
02:06:55
Brian Atlasthey're cheating it's probably they're going out sure they can cheat everywhere but they're probably going out to the bar to the club meeting at a girl meeting a girl at a
02:07:05
Gretaparty you've never heard of oh [ __ ] I was so drunk blah blah it happens but people also cheat on their phones people cheat abut going to different people's
02:07:16
Siennahouses it's not just I think if you're cheat you're cheater and it doesn't really matter like where it is you're going to cheat yeah but there you can
02:07:24
Brian Atlasput yourself in position going cheat just to a party yeah but it's very here's the thing like also um I mean it depends on the person I I guess but like
02:07:37
Brian Atlasyeah but you're putting yourself in positions where temptation is much easier add in like people make really dumb [ __ ] mistakes when they drink you put out you put alcohol into the
02:07:47
Brian Atlasequation it makes it much more likely um also when like let's say your your relationship is a little maybe it's a look people have rough patches in
02:07:57
Brian Atlasrelationships things can get better but in that in that time period if a [ __ ] good enough looking guy steps to you he's got some [ __ ]
02:08:06
Brian Atlasgame like the top G if he steps to you okay we'll see how the relationship goes I think that [ __ ] happens all the time huh like trust issues I think you
02:08:19
Brian Atlasshould trust your part you should trust your person that no matter what Rich tall handsome dude comes up and talks to them I should just I should just TR trust my girl oh she's just going out to
02:08:30
Brian Atlasthe club oh no she's just hanging out with her male friend alone oh it was just we were just cuddling it was just a blow job it was just a blow job ital it
02:08:41
Gretawas just anal there's a difference between all of what you said after they're going to the club there's a big difference between going to a club and hanging with a guy friend alone and sucking his dick and cuddling with him
02:08:53
Gretathere's a huge difference between both of those it's the fact that compare going to a club means oh she's going to go suck some dude's dick is totally different and that's trust issues you
02:09:05
Gretadon't trust that you're going like the person that's going to the club is going to be faithful don't believe any boundaries you believe there so long as
02:09:14
Brian Atlasyou boundaries so long as you trust your partner you you cannot have boundaries in a relationship so you would be fine with your boyfriend hanging out alone at
02:09:26
Brian Atlas10 p.m. with a female friend which he by the way he used to they ex-girlfriend but they're just friends now but he's going to hang out with her alone at 10 p.m. no but that's not him going you
02:09:37
Gretahave trust ISS with his why don't you trust him he tells you he would never cheat on you he tells you that they used to dat that's the difference between boundaries you have different boundaries going to a club and with your friends
02:09:49
Gretaand drinking and having a good time with your friends is different than I'm going to go hang out with my ex-girlfriend at 10: p.m. at night there's two different things to that that's very different but here okay I'll I'll give the this
02:10:01
Brian Atlasexample again right men and women we flirt differently men or salesmen women or marketers so in a committed relationship again men should stop pitching women should stop
02:10:13
Siennaadvertising but just cuz we're going out to the club doesn't mean we're advertising I can see why you I you're putting yourself in the position to we're putting oursel in the position but we're like you should trust your partner
02:10:24
Brian Atlasenough to know that they're not going to um pursue that but it's that's the equivalent that's what you need to give up if you want look there's plenty of men that are I mean you were in a relationship with a guy who had an issue
02:10:37
Brian Atlaswith it so it's it's clear to me that other men clearly have this boundary but if for the health of your relationship like you ought to probably
02:10:47
Brian Atlasgive up going to bars and clubs and parties what do you if I just think it's fun like I have fun when I go out yeah I think [ __ ] a new girl every week is fun too but if I'm in a committed
02:11:00
Brian Atlasrelationship I'm going to give that up because the commitment and my partner is more important than my selfs serving fun okay yeah I can if if someone asked me
02:11:10
Siennato not go out I wouldn't go out but I don't see why like I can see why it's a problem for you but like I think that in the broader like spectrum of it like because men and women are not the same
02:11:21
Gretayou're still putting yourself out there it's disrespectful you're putting yourself out there if you are on Instagram and you post a picture of yourself and your public that's putting yourself out there that's the same exact
02:11:32
Gretathing it is so if you have a girlfriend she can't be public on Instagram and post a picture of herself she putting herself out there for guys to see better it would be better if she was on private yeah and if she wasn't that's a boundary
02:11:45
Brian Atlasthat can't be crossed and not having like a really really big Instagram preference yeah that that or presence that would be a preference for me yeah and not like posting a bunch of thirst trap photos there's just
02:11:57
Brian Atlasdifferent views and never posting me fine but it's just very different and is it any Wonder but is it you might think my position on this is toxic and controlling but is it any wonder why so
02:12:08
Brian Atlasmany people have so much difficulty finding and keeping long-term relationships people are clearly unhappy with the current state of d
02:12:18
Brian Atlasand relationships yet here I am offering a solution and no I still want to engage in these behaviors that quite frankly are not conducive to long-term relationships well there's a big problem
02:12:30
Gretain dating these days but I the number one reason is not clubs and not bars that's not the reason why people are cheaters it's the mentality of a person
02:12:42
Juliato not be faithful to somebody I do wish I knew this I do wish I knew this that men think this way because in my last relationship my ex did not care about any of these things and we broke up and
02:12:54
Juliacare about what he didn't like sometimes there would be Business School socials and he he was um he would travel he was traveling for a time and like he was not pressed and I didn't know that it meant
02:13:07
Brian Atlasthat but it like probably indicates that he didn't care as much right but it from what I gather from what you've said it doesn't sound like you're constantly going out to bars and like there was a he encouraged me once to put post a
02:13:19
Juliabikini pick and stuff like I don't know so if I knew maybe it would be more of an indicator to me that hon most but here's the thing most men have been
02:13:29
Brian Atlasso in the current social climate most men's have most men have been absolutely bullied out of having any sort of preference standard or boundary again
02:13:42
Brian Atlasmen constantly get shamed for articulating or even having anything that could be viewed as controlling or insecure mhm this is this is the destruction of men's impulse to be
02:13:55
Madisonprotectors in the relationship and protecting relationships from from uh attack essentially so true I've gone out in the streets here and interviewed probably
02:14:07
Madisonover 50 girls and asked him this question like would you be opposed to a man telling you you can't go to bars or clubs or parties and their only answers are he's insecure he's control rolling
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Brian Atlasor he has a small dig jeez that's the only three answers i' I'm going to get a couple super chats in um oh whoops uh hold on Seven Deadly simps donated $100 do any of you consider yourselves
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Brian Atlaswait I I I I'll wait until the other girls are back I'll re sorry deadly I'll I'll re-trigger that okay we have Hearn um can you Julia do you want to read
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Juliathis Brian holy cow I've been here for five men the woman in the black and blue shirt has got to be clinical insane great grammar the way she's justifying
02:14:54
TTS Readerthe other chicks relationship I deal with crazy people all day $99 Brian you're always saying that male guests don't contribute enough to the
02:15:05
TTS Readerpodcast but last week you had Brandon Tatum on and I feel that he contributed immensely you should have him on more often he's is that a shot at me uhoh
02:15:16
Brian Atlasslightly but um yeah brand first off thank you man appreciate it thank you thank you uh yeah Brandon was awesome um he granted he was kind of a curated
02:15:28
Brian Atlasguest uh he obviously has a YouTube channel he's been doing YouTube he has experience public or public speaking he has experience doing content creation so I'm not saying that all men are not
02:15:40
Brian Atlasprepared to like come on and contribute to the conversation but it's hard I think it's hard for some men who um not all men but like for some men to come on and they just don't have experience debating this [ __ ] and honestly for some
02:15:52
Brian Atlasmen it's really hard in this current social climate to actually basically share their position on this stuff because again it's going to be met with like some sort of
02:16:03
Brian Atlasuh yeah it's going to be met with uh contempt typically like men are not allowed to be kind of upfront with some of their stuff yo what's upated
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TTS Reader$99 Brian my guy these 18 to 22 year olds aren't going to get what you're trying to say for another 5 to 10 years their wildly selfish Lifestyles won't be
02:16:24
Brian Atlasable to comprehend in the bathro way they're in their party phase yeah I mean look it's uh when you're young you're in college it's fun
02:16:35
Brian Atlasum I get it but the reality is when you're in a relationship like I don't think going out and partying is particularly for men or women because women will feel a certain type of way if
02:16:47
Brian Atlastheir boyfriend's going out all the time and they're staying in they're going to feel like okay he's probably you know uh doing HUD rat [ __ ] or whatever so um you know I don't think
02:16:58
Brian Atlasit's conducive to a healthy relationship but it is what it is uh thank you man appreciate it uh so this one I deal with crazy people all day for sure get checked Jesus this first chick is gross
02:17:10
Brian Atlasrip not very nice okay what's the deal with the two girls they went to the bathroom together on what their deal is um it's just like
02:17:20
Brian Atlasthe club stick together yeah um I can tell you as as a marine veteran they definitely saw you as a way out of the barracks and for the oh I think this is for you mhm the marine guy who wanted to
02:17:31
Gretaget married um I for sure agree with you I mean you also don't know the relationship all you know is that he wanted to marry me and I'm not going to speak anymore on it but it was also
02:17:44
Gretadefinitely so they could get that benefits and that house and I was not trying to do that all right there you have it um bli the Mars thank you man
02:17:53
Brian Atlasappreciate it uh oh wait [ __ ] I've been waiting for this one hold on uh here I'm going to trigger this because it's probably going to fall off
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TTS Readersorry guys I'm going Seven Deadly simps donated $100 do any of you consider yourselves feminists if so why also
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TTS Reader77777 trillion 777 bli 777 m777 I'll go after you7 thank you man appreciate it all right uh the girl in
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Gretalet me see or wait did I miss this want me to read this one I missed the first woman oh you addressed this earlier the girl in the blue dress love to Club life and later in life cry about but where the good guys at I do cry about where the good
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Gretaguys at but I did not Club earlier in my life so okay uh uh oh uh Greta do you want to read this one I do he's going in on oh my god dude this first woman's
02:19:11
Gretaparents need to be fired immediately they failed her I could write a thesis on her disgusting debauchery behavior and thought process no dude is taking
02:19:21
Gretaher seriously ever also the lady in the Middle with the black top is a babe she has a boyfriend thank you um do you have a response to her and do you want to I
02:19:32
Gretahave a response first of all don't talk on my parents I have a wonderful mother who is the most supportive person um I
02:19:44
Gretamay not have parents my father is not in the picture but that can be somebody who failed me but please do not talk on parents and they will not be fired my mom is my
02:19:55
Gretafavorite person and um I don't need a dude to take me seriously because like I said many times I am not looking for a
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Gretarelationship and I know I'm not in a mindset to be a committed relationship right now so thank you there you have it folks to
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Brian AtlasMommy love there you have it folks we have uh Jeremy golden single woman Behavior Uh this broad confused herself Stark IQ difference is showing they pretend like it's no big deal exclusivity is practically all we want
02:20:27
Brian Atlasfrom you don't play dumb and abuse it word thank you Jeremy golden appreciate it Nick did you show this this one or no
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Brian Atlasghost ninja thank for the prime get off my law thank for the prime Matthew thank for the prime guys twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub all right let me get back to our notes here
02:21:02
Brian Atlasso okay we had wait hold on uh okay that girl's
02:21:10
Brian Atlasno uh we got everything with this uh okay we were where were we
02:21:22
Brian Atlascan you be in a relationship and have an only fans or be a stripper that's from Sienna so are you thinking about starting a off or becoming a stripper or what's going on well I don't know is
02:21:32
Siennathat cheating is that related to the cheating thing like is that cheating um as long as the the guy is fine with it I don't think it is but
02:21:43
Brian Atlaslike yeah Brian did you address the uh question about the feminist oh that's right yes okay so he asks I'll trigger the first part then I'll skip it because it's going to be obnoxious deadly simps
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TTS Readerdonated $100 do any of you consider yourselves feminists if so why also
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Greta777 um we'll go around the table do you consider yourself a feminist if so why um yes okay cuz I'm like a very girls
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Parisagirl I for the women they've been yeah okay what about you uh yeah I think there are definitely a lot of inequalities that like feminism
02:22:24
Parisaaddresses so like I do consider myself feminist a lot of inequalities I'll come back to that okay what about you yeah
02:22:32
Siennayes what why well that's just how I was like raised I was raised like going to like the women's marches and all that and cuz women are discriminated against
02:22:45
Laurenwomen women are discriminated against okay um I'll come back to that what about you I do not consider myself a feminist at least not what it means to
02:22:54
Courtney Ferrisbe a feminist um today so no I would say no okay what about you yeah I think that the term feminist has gotten totally out of control so it's hard to say yes and no but I do think that women should all
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Julialove women and men should respect women and women should respect men which is I think ideally what a feminist is okay um I'm a first wve feminist so I would say that I believe like what led to women's
02:23:18
Juliasuffrage in 1920s but then the second wave in the 70s I don't align with those values Steve what about you no Madison what about you same answer sir I
02:23:30
Brian Atlaswouldn't really consider myself a feminist or feminist or call myself one I will come back to this I need to go Sho that girl just went so I need to go use the bathroom but I'll we'll come back to the feminist thing really quick
02:23:42
Brian Atlasum Bender the offender I have the conviction that if she cheats I no longer care about her what it tells me is that she was expecting that the relationship was not going to last and did not take it seriously therefore I do not care about
02:23:54
Brian Atlasher anymore bjer def Fender good to see you man thank you I assume this is related to like the going out and partying thing um I just almost wonder if she a girl is
02:24:05
Brian Atlasgoing out like three four five nights a week and she has school during the day or work during the day when is she going to have time to hang out with me like that's what I'm thinking I still do I still hang out with my boyfriend I think
02:24:17
Brian Atlasher boyfriend goes out with her um sometimes or that's just a recipe for disaster though I mean going out with your girlfriend
02:24:27
Brian Atlaswhy um I just think it's I think that when you're with a guy no guys approach you yeah but if a guy does approach you then just say no no but it's like I
02:24:39
Brian Atlasthink it's a lie honestly I from a security standpoint and Steve maybe you can talk about this I and do you do have you done any bouncing at all or yeah I was a bouncer in Virginia Beach for a little bit uh Navy town how long were
02:24:50
Brian Atlasyou a bouncer for uh about a year or so a year yeah I think it can be a liability to to go out to like venues where people are getting shitfaced drunk
02:25:01
Brian Atlaswith your girl because if some like when dudes get drunk when guy girls get drunk stupid [ __ ] [ __ ] happens and
02:25:11
Brian Atlasyour girl is going to look at you to intervene if any guy is disrespectful towards you and like I don't know if sometimes you see these videos
02:25:21
Brian Atlaslike if a girl has I'm not s like if a girl has is a motor mouth she's going to get you [ __ ] up like if a girl
02:25:33
Brian Atlasis especially when she's drunk if she's a loudmouth she's going to put you in positions where she's going to get other guys like other guys are going to [ __ ] you
02:25:44
Brian Atlasup facts like there's there say are you meaning like if it's so [ __ ] common for a guy to well I shouldn't say common but it definitely happens if a girl's out with his girl and if she's a
02:25:56
Brian Atlasloudmouth she's like a loud person she's going to get like and she starts talking [ __ ] to some dude or some [ __ ] like the she's going to get her boyfriend [ __ ] up yeah but I don't have you seen
02:26:08
Stevethat have you seen you ever hear a guy say hey man control your girl control your girl and then what happens next they get you know a little bit um chest bumping you know like like it's it's it's like lions barking up at each other
02:26:21
Brian Atlasroaring at each other and then what happens they're going to fight that's never been the case for me well as a bouncer I saw it every single night well I think it depends on the uh you you go out you party to IV right you guys do
02:26:34
Madisonyou guys live in IV yeah yeah come on you see fights all the [ __ ] time right yeah there's fights but a lot of violence a lot of violence the type of fights that's starting are in IV though are very different from what's going on
02:26:45
Brian Atlasat clubs and bars I would agree with that how so it's just some dude bump into some dude are you bumped into me [ __ ] you [ __ ] you then I don't know it's [ __ ] usually but what are you saying
02:26:55
Madisonmie how are the fights typically I got to get up continue well I just I guess the scenarios are a
02:27:04
Madisonlittle bit different I mean I don't know an exact example but the kids here aren't fighting as
02:27:14
Madisonmuch as people at bars and clubs do you know what I mean yeah I think yeah so there there's like it goes to a certain there's definitely an age difference and I mean I feel like a lot
02:27:25
Madisonof people in IV that are partying are a little more [ __ ] up and everyone kind of knows each other or like everyone's around the same age so it's not like we're going to fight start this big
02:27:37
Madisonfight for no reason and everyone goes to the same parties here every single weekend you like you know faces around IV when you're at a bar it's like you're seeing different people kind of kind of every weekend so you're willing you're a
02:27:49
Madisonlittle bit more willing to start something with someone knowing that you're never going to see them again if that makes sense I don't really know though and there's just cops here all the time like like it'll shut down a
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Parisawhole party if someone gets in a fight so like people kind of know better than to like start a fight cuz like if one person fights at a party the cops come they see alcohol like the party's done so mhm it's not the same that's another
02:28:13
Brian Atlasbig difference I missed it but whatever um I thought you were listening to the music um wait okay with with the fighting oh recently there was this
02:28:26
Brian Atlasreally interesting clip maybe Nick you if you can find it it was uh maybe you guys have heard of it Subway Karen or something what was what was it uh I think I've seen it but I can't remember
02:28:37
Brian Atlasit right now it was very recent uh oh Karen tells German tourists to go home to his
02:28:49
Brian Atlascountry um did you guys uh can you pull up the chat maybe they
02:28:59
Brian Atlasknow I think it's the subway subway Karen can we get these girls water I think they're thirsty
02:29:12
Brian Atlasyeah Nick do you have it give me some commuter train Karen commuter train Karen I think that's what it's called is
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Noise/Laughterit yeah no I I'm asking you I don't know I think so hold on give second it was on a train or
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Madisona Chad is not helping us oh that you meant at like Subway sandwich shop I did too not like an actual yeah it was the one on the train wait so what happened
02:29:44
Brian Atlasthere I don't know if this is is the whole that doesn't is there that there's a longer version can you start playing it though yeah how about you out of our country
02:29:55
Brian Atlasnot not chaos erupted on this is can you find no no no pause pause PA pause pause pause can you find us the actual video it's like it should be two or three minutes yeah
02:30:07
Brian Atlasum do you guys chat do you guys know what the title is so that he can find it that that is the clip that's the clip
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Brian Atlasbut um I'm trying to like paint a scenario where you'll see what I'm talking about hold
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Brian Atlasup Karen rage train do you have it Nick I'm looking for
02:30:45
Kikithe Nick y I'm looking for the full video okay um Nick
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Madisonwhat come on we I'm trying I'm trying to find it I think he's looking for the full
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Noise/Laughtervideo I don't have like uninterrupted video here where are you searching on YouTube or on Google I'm on YouTube on
02:31:17
Brian Atlasum hold on I'll I'll I'll find
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Brian Atlasit one sec hold on oh great I don't know if I'm going to be able to find this hold
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Brian Atlasup can we okay just forget it just forget it man I need you to to we need to get it way faster than that if you can find it find it in any case I'll tell you what happened it's better to just [ __ ] watch it I don't know um
02:31:55
Courtney Ferrishas anybody seen the clip that I'm talking about she's just clearly acting out and making her man putting him in a situation that he doesn't want to be in basically well it's more than that but I'm trying to articulate this whole like I think I got it okay go
02:32:10
SPEAKER_01ahead yeah that's it hey on a train in New York this car had a heated argument with a young German man in the midst of
02:32:20
SPEAKER_01their argument she told is this voice over the country she expressed her frust a the migrants did not calm
02:32:32
Noise/Laughterdown are youman uh do you know how to just Mouse uh [ __ ] like it's it's a press play but
02:32:42
Noise/Laughteryou like just go forward 5 Seconds by using the arrow key no but press play go forward a little
02:32:57
Brian Atlasbit do not do okay forward just te bit forward just a little
02:33:09
Noise/Laughterbit not doing anything he's not doing anything forward a little bit he's not okay forward a little bit forward a little bit keep going keep
02:33:24
Brian Atlasgoing keep going keep going try to find a scene where there's you see the boyfriend okay there's the boyfriend uh go now go back to when the guy stood
02:33:43
Brian Atlasup okay pause it pause it pause it pause it pause it pause it okay This Woman's clearly drunk they're on the train right um when you're drunk you're acting ridiculous like this
02:33:54
Brian Atlasnow luckily the guy who stood up wasn't violent but and Steve maybe you can weigh in on this in that scenario that girl is with that guy the
02:34:05
Steveguy's going to go [ __ ] up the boyfriend was he no no no no not in that scenario none that's luckily cuz I didn't see he wasn't he wasn't getting in the middle of it in in a real life scenario yeah
02:34:16
Steveyeah the GU you're bucking up to a female so that's that's a big no no not only is a female it's your girl that's your traditional value your traditional role to step in and defend her no but
02:34:27
Brian Atlaswhat what I'm saying is is that the girlfriend is drunk she's up in this dude's face right now that's putting the guy
02:34:38
Brian Atlaswho that she's in the face of in a position where like she's with a guy now if it escalates he's gonna there could it could put the either one of them in a scenario where they're
02:34:50
Brian Atlasgoing to have to the two men are going to have to fight because the girlfriend is acting up yeah 100% yeah so that's just a scenario of why it's not good to go like go out with your
02:35:03
Brian Atlasgirlfriend and she's going to get drunk and she's going to put you in a bad situation like that but not all girls are like that I'm not saying all girls are like that but it is it is something to be aware of as a guy to if you're going out with your girl M and you don't know on a first or second day hey let's
02:35:16
Siennago with the club yeah but I have a boyfriend and we know each other and he knows I won't do that but for other people in general not in my case okay all right I don't know why
02:35:28
Stevethat's okay roles reversed what if another female gets up in you or your boyfriend's face doing the same
02:35:36
TTS Readerthing I do what I got to do okay like what so I'm sorry donated
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TTS Reader$99 just give up Brian you should know by now there is no convincing 304s you can take a 304 from the streets but can't take the streets from a
02:35:59
TTS Reader304 when will they realize Maddie is a good rep of values in class A man wants allthough maybe a bit young class what's a 304 yeah what's a 34 it's definitely an area code
02:36:12
Brian Atlasdefinitely an area code I think I don't know what he's I'm confused I'm just as confused as is you guys is a 304 like a hoe oh is it think so what I thought too
02:36:24
Brian Atlaspretty sure is that like a new term I don't know I I see it on the show all the time I think so oh I don't know I just thought it was an area code that like Florida isn't that the Florida area code or something I'm pretty sure it's a
02:36:35
Laurenh okay it's a on a calculator on a calculator if you write through right no yeah it's how do I know that I'm old cuz that we did
02:36:44
Courtney Ferristhat yeah do you get it Brian like if you get it I get it that's they're so clever they're smart show it is kind of smart oh it's fine we don't Virginia oh
02:36:57
Brian Atlasyeah West Virginia that's what I was thinking I was there last week sorry to hear that that sounds depressing um it is yeah it's really beautiful all right let's see our other notes here are
02:37:09
Gretawe called up on chats really quick did we uh did we do this one no it's for okay go for it oh doesn't matter about
02:37:19
Gretahow the relationship was lol his intentions were to get an extra $300 in a month in base housing I was an NCO and I've seen Marines do that many times he
02:37:30
Brian Atlaswas playing you LOL don't the women get benefits too though uhuh right if they marry there's like some spousal benefits you know I don't know I'm just going to
02:37:40
Gretalet this bilam theur or whatever he goes by you can think what you want as being a former Marine
02:37:50
Gretabut um when I broke up with him he was crying and he did not want to leave me and he was crying he was crying were you more or less attracted to him after the crying I mean you were breaking up with
02:38:03
Gretahim honestly like less just I mean trying to be mean that checks out he was a nice person he was great I was noty how long
02:38:13
Gretawere you dating him like a month like a month and a half yikes I'm just saying but that's he could have been playing me I mean I know he wasn't
02:38:25
Gretabut maybe I'm just jaded crying after a month I don't know what can I say it's not good no feelings oh man oh man I had
02:38:35
Gretasome feelings for him oh no I Wasing yeah there some there I'm cold and heartless over I like I'm not a relationship girlly one once the
02:38:46
Gretamarriage and oh we're going to get married in a year came out and I was this background screen I just you know I just I couldn't do it so I was being
02:38:56
Gretanice and I let him go do you want want a longterm relationship like do you want to get married do you want kids I want kids I wanted kids like uh you guys I'm going to get clowned on for this but I wanted
02:39:09
Gretakids like four years ago which is kind of yeah I I knew I was getting that look 14 14 I wish I could have
02:39:19
Gretalike she wanted to be a Teen Mom I did that was like I mean I've was dream was my dream was younger and can't hate on somebody for for being a dreamer want to
02:39:30
Brian Atlashave a baby by at least 20 so you want to have a baby by at least 20 is that before how many more threesome do you want to get in before before that
02:39:40
Brian Atlashappens you know like another dozen whatever comes whatever not a dozen look you said you love threesome I'm looking out for you but hey I want you to have all your heart's desire I
02:39:53
Brian Atlaswill but I wish you well in your threesome Endeavors you should you know what why don't you throw in like an all girl threesome Never Say Never oh I would not
02:40:03
Brian Atlassay never Parisa par Parisa Parisa you like women right yeah maybe you could maybe TR to do match Mak right now this is a this is the whatever matchmaking
02:40:13
Gretaservice you know I think it needs to be like a consensual talked about oh this would be fun this would be fun this would be fun thing yeah not just oh you're gay why don't you join a 3 with
02:40:24
Brian Atlasher too I mean why not you know it's not a not a bad idea you know okay yeah whatever all right we have a question here for Sienna Sienna says is there a
02:40:36
Siennadifference in a girl's body count versus a guy's body count yeah cuz I I was watching one of your podcasts before and I saw it got brought up so I uh oh yeah uh so what are your thoughts on
02:40:48
Siennathat I don't think it's different you don't think it's different okay what does everybody else think I agree it's not different I think it's
02:40:59
Gretadifferent I think it's different but no I think it's different that's it based I don't think it's different um I don't think it's different but I want your opinion on
02:41:10
Brian Atlasthis I want to see what you me and my hot takes here um and when we when we say it's different like what do you guys mean you're say are you saying that
02:41:21
Brian Atlasum that it's both it's both fine for men and women to have a high body count or it's it's equally undesirable for men and women to have high body counts what
02:41:30
Siennado we what do we saying here when we say it's not different or it is different um well usually people are like girls with high body counts like ew and then guy if
02:41:41
Siennaguy has a high body count it's fine because he's a guy and Anatomy I guess why do people say that I don't know I'm trying to get you
02:41:52
Gretaguys people say that because girls I guess get worn out or stretched out or whatever the fck people say and that it goes inside and that guys don't so it's
02:42:03
Gretajust more okay for guys to have a higher body count but why you said different so I want to know why it's different I think it's different and it goes down to the uh the key in the lock Theory you
02:42:16
Steveknow the key in lock Theory bro I heard this in middle school yeah and it's prevalent Middle School prevalent you got key you got a key to your front door it only opens the front door right mhm
02:42:27
Steveit's a good key if you got a key that opens up a lot of different doors I might be butchering it right now
02:42:35
Brian AtlasSky I think I usually I don't use this analogy very frequently uh cuz I feel like it's people aren't really receptive
02:42:44
Brian Atlasto it but essentially a a lock that can be opened by many keys is a shitty lock but a key that can open
02:42:55
Brian Atlasmany locks is a master key that's the analogy I don't think it's it's not very convincing to people that on the other side so I usually avoid using it but but
02:43:06
Brian AtlasI it there is certainly some truth to it um so there's a there's a couple different things right I think generally speaking and I don't if a woman doesn't want to date a guy with a high body count that's
02:43:19
Brian Atlastotally fine so it's not for me it's not a I don't have a double standard here like but I do think it happens to be the case that generally speaking men care about this more than women do
02:43:29
Brian Atlasmen men are more attracted to women who are non-promiscuous especially for long-term relationships men are much more have a much more vested interest in this there's a bunch of practical and intellectual reasons I can give you but
02:43:42
Brian Atlasthe primary thing is that I believe it comes down to evolution AR psychology there's something called paternity certainty paternity uncertainty so if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men and she
02:43:54
Brian Atlasgets pregnant actually here I'll change it up if a woman has 10 husbands and they're all sleeping with her you don't at the same time and she gets pregnant
02:44:05
Brian Atlasthere's no way for the men to know who the father is now of course in the past keep in mind I'm I'm making this argument from an evolutionary perspective obviously starting I believe in the 1960s we have we started doing de
02:44:17
Brian Atlasor was it ' 8s in any case we have DNA testing today that's something fairly new within the past 40 50 60 years um this new invention of ours that we can
02:44:26
Brian Atlastest for DNA does not undo hundreds of thousands of years of um evolution in our psychology so whereas if you compare a woman who has 10 husbands and she's
02:44:37
Brian Atlassleeping with all of them you don't know who the you don't know who the father is a man who has 10 wives you know who who the father is and the mother is in all those
02:44:49
Brian Atlasscenarios so that's basically what it comes down to men have an evolutionary basis for having a a stronger interest in a woman who is nonpromiscuous who is
02:44:59
Brian Atlasnot sleeping with other men so that's primarily why I think men care more about it I can see also and the the other argument
02:45:10
Brian Atlasis it's much easier for women to get laid than it is for men to get laid so something that is easy typically does
02:45:19
Brian Atlasnot Garner respect whereas it's like for a guy to get laid there's certain there's it's harder so other guys will
02:45:30
Brian Atlasput a little like if you're a guy and you can just get a bunch of women that maybe says something about your your Riz or your charisma or your game or your
02:45:41
Brian Atlasjust very your high status in some way whereas any woman like an average woman even a below average woman it's very easy for them to get laid whereas for
02:45:51
Brian Atlasmen like a below average man that's rather difficult for him to get laid so pretty much any woman if she was so inclined uh how do I frame this any
02:46:02
Brian Atlaswoman if she wanted to could be a [ __ ] any woman not any man can be a [ __ ] not any man can be a stud I guess that's the other term but
02:46:17
Juliafact okay any woman could be a [ __ ] I don't really get how that I agree you don't get which one evolutionary man not be a [ __ ] because girls are more selective than
02:46:28
Juliaguys so like guy will have to be super attractive or have a lot of things going for him in order for a lot of women to want to sleep with him like on in general so like the guys that tend to get a lot of women usually they're
02:46:40
Juliaprobably at least above they're an eight or above or maybe a six or seven with some great RZ and all that you know or they have very well-paying jobs or they they have something they have to have
02:46:50
Juliathese other factors whereas you know a guy who is a nine or a 10 will will sleep with a woman who's the I'm just do you
02:47:02
Brian Atlasdisagree I think you were saying that you think it's just as easy for men to get laid as it is for women to get laid yes Nick put it on her please I'm sorry
02:47:13
GretaI was reading the chat yes I was just in my opinion a girl can go you know if they want to [ __ ] whoever they want to they can do it same with a guy same with a guy I mean it just has to go for the
02:47:26
Gretastandards that they're going for like you said a guy can [ __ ] a six or four whatever they just have to go for that type of person and they could have just as high as a body count as a girl they could be just as much as a [ __ ] as a
02:47:39
Gretagirl it just depends on who they're going for is the girl going to say yes is the guy going to say yes yes if I go up to any guy and say oh I want to [ __ ] is he going to say yes for sure that's not that is not true not every girl gets
02:47:52
Brian Atlasevery guy to say yes not every guy gets every girl to say yes it's at a much higher rates at a much higher rate depends on who you're going for no
02:48:02
Brian Atlasnot really like we you can be we had a woman on here who was like overweight not particularly attractive and she was like yeah I [ __ ] 5 dudes
02:48:15
Gretain a day like exactly dud could have [ __ ] five women that looked like her in a day that's not how it works it could have worked why not why is that not how it
02:48:25
Brian Atlasworks are you really this oblivious to the differences between men and women [ __ ] which guy five one of the guys that [ __ ] that woman the five I'm talking
02:48:35
Brian Atlasabout her looks equivalent okay exactly I okay here's the here's the thing it's not even I'm not even going to play so much on
02:48:43
Brian Atlasthat an average woman has the equivalent sexual optionality as a A-list celebrity
02:48:52
Brian Atlasso professional athlete actor musician an average woman just pull any girl from Santa Barbara City College UCSB if she wanted to she could [ __ ] a
02:49:04
Brian Atlasnew guy every single day of the week can you genuinely sit here and say that you think if I could just pull like an average an average guy from Santa Barbara City College or UCSB that he could [ __ ] a new girl every single day
02:49:17
Gretaof the week really if he goes for the r girls I feel like he could have not ever so you're saying if he goes for women who are less attractive than him he if he goes if he like sections out women that are more
02:49:29
Gretahis type or that he is more their type yes I'm not saying it's every single guy but it's also not every single woman could find a dude so you think any guy could be a [ __ ] yeah cuz the statement I
02:49:40
Brian Atlasmade was any woman if she wanted to I'm not saying they're inclined to but if they wanted to could be a [ __ ] but I don't think any guy if he wanted to could be a [ __ ] I
02:49:54
Brian Atlasdisagree boy okay um I feel like everybody how are you familiar with the term incel no you've never heard the term inel I mean I think I've heard it but I don't know what it means you got I've heard it but I don't know what it
02:50:06
Brian Atlasmean so someone who's involuntarily cibit these are typically men okay like they try they try they try but they just cannot you don't have any guy friends who like struggle with
02:50:18
Brian Atlaswomen a lot of people struggle with women and a lot of women struggle with men no but strictly speaking getting laid most women do not struggle when it comes to getting laid you have that on