33 Year Old VIRGIN?! 5 Threesomes At 18?! | Dating Talk #108

Date: 2023-10-11

Duration: 5h 40m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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PParisa (DT108)>

SSienna (DT108)>

LLauren Harkins >

CCourtney Ferris >

JJulia (DT108)>

SSteve (DT108)>

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Courtney Ferris(guest)

SPEAKER_03Greta(guest)

SPEAKER_04Sienna(guest)

SPEAKER_05Kiki(audience)

SPEAKER_06Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Steve(guest)

SPEAKER_11Noise/Laughter(audience)

SPEAKER_12Lauren(guest)

SPEAKER_13Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_14Parisa(guest)

Key Moments

Key Moment33-year-old virgin Lauren discusses her complete lack of in-person sexual attraction. Never been on a date, never had a crush in real life, never experienced attraction sufficient to pursue anyone. In 33 years, not one person has triggered pursuit. Only celebrity she finds attractive: Paul Walker.

“I've never I've never dated never really been interested in dating... not even a crush in high school”

QuoteLauren describes herself as "somewhere on the asexual spectrum" but avoids the label due to it being "taken over by the woke mob."

“I think I'm somewhere on that spectrum... I hesitate to use the word asexual... it's been kind of taken over by the woke mob”

Key MomentLauren says she would rather die a virgin than settle, even at 45. Brian challenges whether she is waiting for a unicorn that does not exist.

“I would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person... it could be are you would you be let's say you're like 45”

QuoteLauren states she would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person.

“I would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person like 100% rather rather die a virgin 100%”

Key MomentGreta reveals she contracted chlamydia from a married couple she met via Tinder (her friend found them). The couple denied it afterward. Greta found out via regular STI testing.

“they were great the chyia not so great... they denied it even after I told them but it was fine they were”

Key MomentGreta reveals she had 5 threesomes by age 18. Brian is visibly surprised and confirms the count.

“five five threesoms MH and but was it each one was like with a different group of people yes”

Key MomentGreta describes the smoke shop mix-up: drunk at the beach, met a guy's brother (Billy) instead of the intended contact (Bobby), hooked up with Billy, then Billy left her stranded in a different city.

“I walked up to his brother which was not him... I proceeded to have some fun with his brother... he left me at the he left me in a different city on the side of the road”

Key MomentSienna describes her abusive ex-relationship (2018-2020): he gave her silent treatment when she declined sex, cheated by texting another girl, made her pay for everything, restricted her clothing, and made misogynistic comments about assault victims.

“he would like expect sex... he'd be like I'm a horny little like teenage boy what do you expect... he would call you names he wouldn't let you go outside and shorts or a tank top”

QuoteParisa states that the body count double standard is misogynistic — that sex should weigh equally regardless of gender.

“I think it's misogynistic to say that like there's a difference between the weight that a woman's body count holds and a man's body count”

QuoteSteve says he wishes he could go back and be a virgin, seeing his married brother's life as a model.

“I wish I could go back and be a virgin I really do... I see how my brother my brother just had a baby he's married he's having a lovely life”

QuoteBrian lists 15+ systematic disadvantages men face in the workplace (dangerous jobs, overtime, commute, etc.) in response to the wage gap discussion.

“there's the trades gap there's the dangerous jobs gap 97 something like 97% of workplace deaths are men... more likely to die on the job gap more likely to be electrocuted to death gap”

Key MomentGreta reveals her sugar daddy story: her sister's former sugar daddy found her via Venmo, first messaged when she was 15 (ignored), then at 17 (ghosted), resumed contact after 18; sent approximately $3,000 total.

“he found me cuz he was my sister's sugar daddy... he hit me up at 15 I didn't respond to him until I was no 17... he's still your sugar daddy how much... probably like three grand”

Key MomentSienna describes a sugar daddy who became creepy: referred to his genitals as "bulging," sent an unsolicited photo, she stopped contact. Received approximately $350 total.

“he would refer to his like dick as a bulge and he'd be like I'm bulging I'm bulging... he sent me a picture of his dick and it was 14 in long”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian opens show from Santa Barbara; mentions co-host Kiki (shy). Guests introduce: Greta (18, SBCC psychology/caregiver; mic issues initially), Parisa (18, SBCC English), Sienna (18, SBCC biology/nursing), Lauren (33, GBI agent trainee from Maine — virgin centerpiece), Courtney Ferris (27, Death to Digital agency co-founder), Julia (29, tech consultant), Steve (26, executive protection/entrepreneur, LA), Madison (18, Whatever Podcast staff/SBCC).

Relationship Status Round

Round of current relationship statuses: Greta (single 2yr, FWB sneaky link), Parisa (single 1 month), Sienna (new relationship 1 month), Lauren (never been in a relationship, never dated — extended discussion), Julia (relationship 2yr), Steve (single since May 2022), Madison (relationship 1+ year). Lauren's situation dominates the round — deep dive into her virginity, asexuality, dating abstinence, and standards.

Lauren's Virginity and Asexual Spectrum Identity

Extended segment on Lauren's 33-year virginity. Brian probes: never dated, no in-person attraction, possibly asexual but avoids label, would rather die a virgin than be with the wrong person, only attracted to Paul Walker type. Discussion of her connection-only requirement, divorced parents, college at U of Southern Maine. Steve and others react with disbelief. Lauren describes wanting only a long-term relationship (no marriage, no kids), not actively seeking, in her "let go and let God era."

Greta's Threesome History and Dating Stories

Brian reads Greta's pre-show notes. 5 threesomes at 18 — details of each. Married couple on Tinder gave her chlamydia. Smoke shop mix-up: accidentally hooked up with wrong brother (Bobby vs Billy), got abandoned in another city while drunk. Marine boyfriend tried to marry her after brief relationship. Ex-boyfriend with one testicle (testicular torsion/implosion). General dating philosophy: wants chivalry and flowers but also casual hookup freedom.

Chivalry, Traditional Dating, and Men Paying

Debate over whether men should pay for dates and practice chivalry. Greta: men should open doors and buy flowers. Brian: romantic gestures should be contingent on women moving traditionally/exclusively. Courtney: men create the environment; women shouldn't have to prove themselves first. Extended debate over whether current dating marketplace makes traditional gestures by men irrational.

Sienna's Abusive Relationship

Brian reads Sienna's pre-show notes. 2018-2020 relationship: emotionally and physically abusive boyfriend. He required sex to give her attention, sent her a screenshot of him texting another girl without breaking up first, made her pay for everything, restricted her clothing, made misogynistic rape victim-blaming comments (the final straw), attempted to use fireworks on her. Discussion of sex withholding dynamics in relationships.

Sex Expectations in Committed Relationships

Debate: should partners feel obligated to fulfill each other sexually? Brian argues dead bedrooms indicate incompatibility; men should be able to leave if sexually unfulfilled. Greta counters sex must be fully voluntary. Courtney cites Bible verse (do not withhold your body from your partner). Steve shares Miami situationship story: both gave silent treatment when declining sex.

Social Media and Going Out in Relationships

Discussion of whether women in relationships should post revealing photos online or go out partying frequently. Brian: women should keep some modesty in photos when in a committed relationship. Courtney: posting does not imply infidelity. Steve: women at clubs/bars create vulnerability situations. Debate over control vs. trust.

Cheating, Hookup Culture, and Modern Dating

Greta: stopped dating men because everyone cheats. Parisa: 99% of men will cheat. Brian: women cheat as much as men; both sexes in hookup culture. Discussion of what counts as cheating (porn, only fans, going to clubs). Debate over whether college relationships work. Courtney shares personal anecdote of respecting herself by staying after she clearly wasn't being respected.

Feminism Round and Wage Gap Debate

Each guest states whether they identify as feminist: Greta (yes, girls' girl), Parisa (yes, inequalities exist), Sienna (yes, raised that way), Lauren (not today's feminism), Courtney (no), Julia (yes for 1st wave suffrage only), Steve (no), Madison (no). Extended debate on wage gap: Parisa says it exists, Brian says it's been debunked. Discussion of women's occupational choices, hazardous work gaps, work-life balance differences. Brian lists 15+ "gaps" men face (dangerous jobs, overtime, commute, etc.).

Body Count Discussion

Key-in-lock theory debate. Brian argues high body count is undesirable in both sexes but especially in women due to attachment. Parisa: body count double standard is misogynistic. Courtney: past is past, it's about current character. Body count reveals at ~303min: Madison=8, Greta=16, Lauren=0 (virgin), Parisa declined, Sienna declined, Steve declined (Navy joke), Brian "more than one."

Abortion, Feminism, and Equality Debate (Late Show)

Continuation of feminism debate: Parisa argues for complete equality including men's issues. Discussion of abortion (California context). Brian: modern feminism is a corporate psyop to double the labor pool. Extended debate on whether gynocentric society exists. Brian lists men's systematic disadvantages.

Ratings Round

Self-rated looks (1-10): Julia=7 then revised to 10, Parisa=7, Sienna=7.5, Courtney=8 then 10 (noting boyfriend was watching), Steve=8.5, Madison=6. Brian declines to rate panel; says he cannot pick 7.

Sugar Daddy Stories

Greta: sister's former sugar daddy found her via Venmo; first contact at 15 (ignored), resumed at 17-18; received ~$3,000 total. Sienna: sugar daddy sent ~$350 via Snapchat; became creepy (called himself "bulging"), she stopped contact after he sent unsolicited photo.

Transcript

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Juliasponsors what how's this relevant so if you were promoting like a high if you were a woman talking about being a moderate like being politically moderate

Juliatalking to both sides do you think that you'd have more advertising revenue or potential opportunities like that if if if I was a woman doing this

Brian Atlassimilar kind of podcast uh call her daddy M Drew AO both of these women have actually or both of these groups of women have actually said

Brian Atlasmuch more contro controversial things the kniv said Drew aalo has a Spotify deal caller daddy did a Spotify deal for 100 million2 million I actually think I have I'm

Brian Atlasdoing better number viewership numbers than I I'm not sure about call her daddy but I'm pretty sure my podcast is more downloaded than Drew's in any case I

Brian Atlascould look I could be wrong and she says some real man-hating [ __ ] that woman uh so but but because I'm a man because I'm

Brian Atlaslike look feminism is the mainstream that is the status quo yeah exactly and I'm kind of coming at it for more of like well here's the way men are struggling here's the way men are disadvantaged yeah that's not that's not

Brian Atlasmainstream you can't really say that and then expect to have be making nine figure deals with Spotify or whatever [ __ ] platform it is so exactly it is what it is um I'm trying to remember all

Brian Atlasokay let me ask you a question when it comes to power right um couldn't you also argue aside I mean obviously men and women make different career choices and stuff couldn't you

Brian Atlasargue that women are attracted to men who have power um I mean in my case like no that's well you're in college so you probably just want a hot college dude or whatever you don't give a [ __ ] I mean no

ParisaI I mean I guess that depends on the woman then cuz I can't speak for all wom but like I I haven't necessarily observed that but okay fine let's remove

Brian Atlaspower from it this can also be related to the wage Gap do you think that there are some women there's a greater proportion of women out there that want to be stay-at-home moms that want to find a husband that pays for everything

Parisaversus the reverse versus men who want to be stay-at-home dads and have the woman pay for anything i' say you're seeing like a switch honestly and like men wanting to stay home more and then women wanting to be out in the workforce

Parisamore like there is I I just think that a large part of that was also just like the unequal access to like a lot of these opportunities but now that that it's becoming do you think it's a do do

Brian Atlasyou really think it's a w as a woman to be a wage slave for 40 50 60 years and sitting and looking at the computer Compu and dealing with annoying people then like is that a w to

Brian Atlasjust it depends on your goals I mean as oppos to what well some women don't want to like most women will be wage slaves most men will be wage slaves that's the reality of the economy you're not going

Brian Atlasto have some like rockar career where you're out there saving the [ __ ] world you're going to be working for some you're going to be some faceless drone at a corporation that doesn't give

Brian Atlasa [ __ ] about you and it's you're just going to be another Cog in the machine making a corporation and billionaires rich I mean that's true but like at the end of the day like your life is defined

Parisaby like what you consider doing something meaningful and like for me I yes I'm a woman but like I would consider my life a complete waste if I spent it like raising a child and like

Parisathat's what I like I do you think that's a waste to for me for me person I'm not speaking for all women at all like that's completely different but I'm saying like for me person personally

Parisalike I would completely rather spend my life working at a job that I I personally found meaningful and like even if I am like a wage slave you know I'm just working for a corporation I

Brian Atlaswould rather do that than like I don't know be a stay-at-home mom for like the rest of my life well I mean honestly the here's what I think this comes down to is I don't think it's a man man woman

Brian Atlasthing I think it's a class thing I think it's a it's a rich more of a rich versus poor thing

Brian Atlasum we've been sold this idea and feminism has feminism has been wonderful for corporations because we've doubled the labor pool

Brian Atlasum it's not clear to me if the ultimate path to fulfillment and happiness in a life is working for some corporation that doesn't give a [ __ ] about you that would fire you at the drop of the Hat

Brian Atlaswhen on a spreadsheet it was determined that you were were no longer in some way benefiting the corporation despite your loyalty to said Corporation for years on

Parisaend um being a worker drone to me is not what I think is particularly fulfilling yeah and I would not consider that fulfilling either but if the decision

Parisacame down to it like for me personally I would take that over you'd rather be a work 40 50 60 years just be openminded that might change I I know I might change but like

Parisapersonally I don't know I've never been big on like the whole like responsibility of like bearing a child and then raising it I just feel like it's it's too much and I don't want that level of influence on something that but let me tell you there's something

Juliaweirdly biological that happens when you turn 27 that's what my mom says that's what yeah I was exact it's it's weird just like don't sleep on it you know what I mean yeah I

Brian Atlaswould just say that when it comes to power it it is a bit of an apex fallacy because you're only looking at the the top percentage of men that have power most men have no power whatsoever that

Brian Atlasmost men and most women are in are in the exact same boat with a very small proportion of people who have power and who have a ton of money so I don't think it's a gender thing I don't think it's a

Brian Atlasman woman thing I think it's people who have power and people who don't people who have a lot of money and people who don't so um I honestly think feminism is a scop to distract the populace from

Brian Atlasanyways I'm not going to get into that but um so uh and we do need to wrap up here pretty soon but uh let me see

Brian Atlasso do you do you think we oh really quick Sienna you said women are discriminated against how

Siennaum can I just like can we move on from this I don't want to argue about it no let's arue we can argue tell me one thing how are women discriminated

Brian Atlasagainst well you already debunked debunked her um I didn't real I I didn't do a thorough job with the wage Gap I could have provided some more details but actually there's a very a woman

Brian Atlasrecently won the Nobel prize in economics where I believe Nick if you can look up the news article some of the the news sites are going to try to spin

Brian Atlasin a certain way but a woman came out with a she won the Nobel Peace or not the excuse me not the Nobel Peace Prize it was a Nobel Prize I believe in

Brian Atlaseconomics um if anybody in the chat could help us try to find it uh she said that the wage Gap had more the supposed earnings Gap actually had more to do with women's choices when it

Brian Atlascame to taking time off from the workforce because they became mothers and had children that's yes claudy golden wins Nobel prize in economics for studying

Brian Atlaswomen at work um we're not going to read the whole article but um look up do a control F and then say

Brian Atlaslook for mother in this um oh yeah instead her research suggests that the earnings difference can be

Brian Atlasblamed at least partially on motherhood um let's see so it came down to I think Parenthood

Brian Atlasslow down reduce their hours of work so anyways we're not going to go too far into that but um what was your did you have anything women are discriminated against

Brian Atlashow I don't sure you said all the stuff I would say so so I'll ask a different question then um do you believe I'll go around the table do you believe that we are living in a

Brian Atlaspatriarchy I don't know yeah into the mic yes I'm not sure no I don't know yes but not in a bad

Brian Atlasway okay so what does what does it mean to be living under a patriarchy what is the patriarchy I just feel like it's the mic sorry I just you can uh scoot it closer to you so you don't have to lean

Parisain so far I just feel like in the end it comes down to like I don't know just like an uneven Dynamic and like in just an imbalance between like what you're

Parisaable to do as a man in this world and what you're able to do as like a woman in this world um so

Brian Atlaswhat do you think so but on what do you mean do you think you're unable to do what what can you not do as a woman I just you can go be a Navy SEAL

Parisathey had a female Navy SEAL go through Buzz she failed but you can go do it that's the badass the most badass thing in the military I mean I I just feel like I don't know that's just my personal

Parisaopinion like it's getting late I feel like I I'm just repeating the same things at this point it's going in so because I'm like I feel like you're referring to more of like a feeling that

Courtney Ferriswomen constantly get throughout life like if a woman is a boss she's more so referred to as a [ __ ] whereas if a man is a boss and he says the same thing the woman does he's a boss like and that's it yeah it's just like I just feel feel

Parisalike things like no matter how you look at it like no matter what lens you look at it through like if you're a woman your actions will be perceived differently as a man and a lot of times there will be a lot more negative

Parisaconnotation to those actions whereas if you're a man it'll be just perceived as differently I'm not sure I agree with the premise but

Brian Atlasum okay so let me ask this so you said let me ask a different different question um my understanding of the

Brian Atlaspatriarchy is this idea that women are oppressed and they are oppressed by men men are the oppressors women are the oppressed do you agree that do you think that women are

Parisaoppressed in the you let's say in the west or the United States for example yes in the west I've say that we've done a great job of like eradicating a lot of the oppression but I'd state that there is still some

Courtney Ferristhere's still oppression okay what about you I'd agree no I don't think so you think women have liberated themselves no

Brian Atlasno no uh okay do you so I think it was yes yes yes are you

Parisaoppressed no you're a woman though but okay no I would say that not necessarily but there are women who are oppressed in the United States okay what about you I agree

Parisaokay so women are oppressed but not you guys um okay but like wouldn't you say like a woman who is in a state where she legally cannot go like get an abortion so like she's in a case where like there

Juliawere circumstances that led to like her not wanting that baby like it was she has the freedom to move to a different state she also has the freedom to drive to a different state that legally allows for it she could even drive to d uh DC there's one of the few hospitals in

JuliaAmerica where you can get a abortion the day before supposed to give birth like a 9-month-old baby but means to a car access to being she can absolutely if she wants to

Juliarent a car all she needs is money and that's not something that the patriarch is like depriving her of she just needs her own money if she has a little bit of like the nth degree of Independence then she is able to go and if she wants to

Juliakill that baby the day before it's supposed to be born she can come to DC and do it I'm I regret to inform that but yeah sadly she can sad okay

Brian Atlasso is there I mean killing a baby the day before it's about to pop out of the womb that is I mean it's not boring yet it's like wait why are you covering your mouth do you have something to say no oh

Brian Atlasokay that was pretty morid that's pretty that that's like M that's like even most stay away from this top I'm let's move away from it all right um so but okay so that's that's one example you're

Brian Atlasproviding when it comes to how you think women are oppressed even though it's not clear to me if it's an inequality well okay that's different

Brian Atlasum besides besides that even though you can go to another state to get one um is there any other ways women are

Brian Atlasoppressed I don't know I'm sure if I like talk about it I just it's so late I you got it you got no you got it you got it get get her a Red Bull get her a Red

ParisaBull I'm kidding don't get a Reb drink caffeine um but what else I don't know I just feel like oppression at the root of Oppression

Parisacomes like like a historical struggle for like equality and I feel like with when like that historical struggle is present there like that sense of

ParisaOppression is like very hard to get rid of and I think that like yes we've gotten rid of a lot of it but it's a lot more complex than that to like completely rid our society of like the

Brian Atlasoppression of women but so what right or privilege as a man do I have that you do not I mean I would just say like like the reproductive right like we disagree

Parisaobviously about like the grounds of that but I would say that like argue that that is a form of Oppression because like women are oppressed to the point where like you're not and yes like you can go to another state yes like that's

Brian Atlaslike Case by case but if you cannot go in your own okay we're in California right now there's millions of women in California if they're so inclined they can get an abortion um let's talk about California then yeah which is why you

Brian Atlasasked me if I thought I was oppressed and I said I would not personally so the only way in which women are oped I say the only way I would just say that like give me another give me what other ways are women oppressed what besides the

Brian Atlasabortion I mean I don't know i' like it's literally like 10 p.m. just use your brain you got it I I literally like like it could it be from jobs could it be from education could it be from social okay interaction women have

Brian Atlasequality there's total equality between the Sexes it's 2023 that's it there is no right or privilege that I have that a woman

Brian Atlasdoesn't fr the only one I can think of and it depends on some jurisdictions it's different I can go shirtless topless and some women I don't know it's

Brian Atlaslegal in some places for women to be topless that's the only right or privilege that I can think of that I have that women

Brian Atlasdon't that's it I mean I'm a feminist I guess I'm free the titty or sorry free the nipple I think

Parisathat's free the nipple I'm for it I'm a feminist okay I don't know that just to me it feels like it's oversimplifying it because like oppression doesn't

Brian Atlasnecessarily have to come from like legality and like a law that is oppressing you I think oppression but who is oppress who is oppressing women

Parisais it men well I think that the culture because the culture is it would to some extent it is men but like I'd say that because of the culture that has been

Parisacreated it has turned into like a lot of times I've seen that like it is like a woman who is causing like her own sort of like oppression or like she is sort

Parisaof like playing into like a lot of these power dynamics that are like actually harmful to like like women in general Robin just donated

TTS Reader$99 noodle hair saying a lot of nothing ask her how she would reform the oppression that women supposedly have I think like to reform oppression she's got nice curls she's got nice curls I

Parisamean okay at the end of the day I'd say that that just comes down to like equal rights and like having equal access to things but women do have equal rights I know but I would say equal rights and and of course like I'd say to completely

Parisaeradicate oppression that would come with equalizing these like fights for men and also like addressing a lot of these issues for men which are overlooked because in order to like properly get rid of it you need complete

Parisaequality and like complete like to properly yeah which I would say that that plays into it I would argue that 99 are you talking about are you talking about the drafts again are you hitting out that or no I'm

Parisatalking about just other issues with men which I feel like are often and like overlooked which now are starting to gain like more cuz I'd argue that 99% of men do not want women in the

Stevedraft would it be transgender men coming into women's sports is that a is that a pressing I mean no I was just like are you saying that men are better at being

Stevewomen than women what when I was 16 I did a cancer event where I I did drag oh I got like I got like 400 not with me but I'll I'll shoot you one

Steveno I look good you you'd be a I think you'd be a pretty hot woman yeah size 13 yeah based do you guys think he wouldd be a hot woman no yes what I think you kind of look like Jon Snow though cut the beard the beard I'd keep the beard I

Brian Atlashad much longer hair and I really wish I didn't cut it cuz Halloween is in two weeks that's a huge compliment we have we have a comment here from bjer the fender noodle hair has said like so many times that she must have her own foreign language or something do you have a

Brian Atlasresponse to benjer the offender I actually get that a lot I do say like a lot so it it's you know I I say like too it is what it is um trying to okay I'm going to try to

TTS Readerwrap this up guys here pretty soon um oh speaking of Robin donated $99 I know but like like like like and

TTS Readerlike but like not like like but and like so in that case like dude did he really pay $100 to say that he yes he did all right yo we love that thank you man do you

Brian Atlaswant him to say more things say something bettery keep saying like yeah this is a reminder guys uh champagne pop what is the champagne pop we pop

Juliachampagne it's pricey though how much it's 1,000 bucks if somebody pays a th000 you pop champagne yeah please someone do it kind I really that' be fun

Brian Atlaswe all get toink the most premier Trader Joe's champagne top-of-the line Trader Joe's champag in all right let's see here okay

Brian Atlasum body count really quick want to touch on body count then no we're going to try to wrap here guys um I think you guys were saying body count shouldn't matter

Brian Atlasright if I recall yeah no should matter wait what are you asking oh should um do you object to men caring

Brian Atlasabout body count well men can have their own opinion sure okay do you think do you think men shouldn't care about body count well they're free to have their

Brian Atlasopinion but you think eh guys it's not a big deal guys relax it's the P it's not big a deal as they make it okay so it's never that serious into the mics

Steveguys if you can it's not that deep yeah I don't object to man having an opinion um I care so yes it should matter I care and I understand a woman

Brian Atlascaring about my body count as well sure I don't object okay so if body body count doesn't matter right what's your

Gretabody count God you do this on everyone what hey do you want me to be like honestest wait Madison you start okay

Gretaeight now me 16 okay one okay five what I don't know I'm just

Siennauncomfortable talking about this right now okay okay fine yeah zero I'm not GNA share I think it matters range okay that's fine less than

Stevefive uh triple digits what I was in the Navy okay wait are you

Brian Atlascounting men now you're not wrong I you are wrong with me but Navy jokes very ACC I know it was just a Navy joke I wasn't I

Brian Atlaswasn't um and Madison went okay I I'm a man of God so I don't reveal my body come on can you give us a range can you

Brian Atlasgive us a range please it's more than one yep can we delete that more than one

Siennacan we Del wait so triple digits yeah like 100 100 deal 01 how are you going to have we're going to

Stevego body count just a tip just for a second I said I have a preference and I understand if women have have a opinion on mine as well I understand it's going to rub

Stevesomeone wrong equally okay what do you think is a high body count for a girl more than what I have what you have what if she had like like like we said I wish I could go back and be a virgin I really

Stevedo doesn't make you less of a partner though you know no no but if I could go back I I see how my brother my brother just had a baby he's married he's having a lovely life and I'm over here 26

Stevesingle I'm like huh maybe if I was single things would you know plan out a little differently but I'm I'm career focused right now so I acknowledge that I just want to say this to everybody's body count here multiply by three and

Brian Atlasthat's the real number you got to multiply by three got to multiply by three so 15 no okay um wait 16 do you count the cuz you had a

Brian Atlascouple threesome right do you count the girls in the body count or not really cuz like 2 * 5 so like 10 of your bodies is from thre SS yep so you've had more

Gretathreesome sex than reg like jeez just standard well I mean once you start it's like kind of you can't go back just more would you ever go more than

Stevethree have wait have you had more than three no like the sixth person a night girl would you ever do that but all at the same time an or she's down yeah she's she's the term is called or it

Brian Atlasdepends like state of mind I'm in would you would you have an would you have an orgy with like a hundred women that'd be kind of dope but also kind of scary biblical

Brian Atlasstuff that's some gangster [ __ ] that's some Harum [ __ ] yeah no no okay there's a painting in the Lou that depicts That Dope can we google it actually wait no that's

Brian Atlasprobably to never mind I'm not so smart I just Paris before we have a couple chats here uh did we do did we read this one did we do this one wait yeah yeah oh

Brian Atlaswe did that one we did did we do this one did we do this one I don't think can you read this one not pressed LOL I just wanted you 15

Gretano he didn't have the feelings you thought he had for you it was all a game thank you bam for letting me know this man's paid like $300 to share that I know just like eight times the same

Brian Atlasthing but we love the support thank you uh I work 50 to 60 hours a week I try to hit my 70 hours I'm legally allowed to work during holiday times I don't see a whole lot of women working that many

Brian Atlashours at my job you see that look at that thumbs up Sienna's giving you a thumbs up cool yeah cool story yeah I mean look when it

Brian Atlascomes to uh when it comes to the whole wage Gap thing I mean there's a whole lot of things that uh men are more likely to do uh than women

Brian Atlaslike men are more men are more likely to work danger okay if we're talking about gaps right we have to address a lot of different gaps so there's the trades Gap

Brian Atlasthere's the dangerous jobs Gap 97 something like 97% of workplace deaths are men I think we could argue there's something called Hazard pay men are more likely to receive Hazard pay because they're more likely to be working

Brian Atlasdangerous jobs to begin with there's more liky to there's a more likely to die on the job Gap more likely to be electrocuted to death Gap more likely to be crushed to death on the job Gap more

Brian Atlaslikely to fall to their death Gap more likely to be injured on the the job Gap more likely to work in undesirable disgusting Dirty Jobs Gap more likely to

Brian Atlaswork outside in heat cold Gap more likely to work at night Gap more likely to relocate Gap more likely to commute Gap more likely to work overtime Gap

Brian Atlasmore likely to work a job that props up the entire infrastructure of society Gap so you can sit in your cushy air conditioned office job Gap more likely

Brian Atlasto work in bum [ __ ] nowhere Gap why don't you just choose a better job huh because men are willing to go take these dog [ __ ] difficult dangerous

Brian Atlasjobs that put them in the middle of [ __ ] nowhere because they want to make money for their family you can still make money with women are more likely to want to observe a healthier

Brian Atlaswork life balance whereas men are prepared to like work like [ __ ] dogs to make a ton of money women will prioritize a work life balance much more than men and that's a good thing women

Brian Atlasare smart that way I'm not saying like but I'm just saying this is why their men are like [ __ ] insane psychos driven to these to these jobs because

Brian Atlasmen will do these insane jobs so that they can make a ton of money so they can and men will work the I know they're laughing over there sorry it's not about that she just the face she made I'm

Kikisorry the face what she just looked at me and it got me so good we got the giggles they got the giggles they got the giggles such a long it's there's 10,000 people watching

Brian Atlasright now that's wild no it's not it's that's a different number um men are willing to break their bodies RIS risk their lives to provide for themselves and their family I know they're cracking

Parisaup she just doesn't like the the truth I guess it's not it's genuinely not that like and the fact that like now you like like made aware the fact that we were

Kikilaughing like you made it so much funnier I'm so sorry

Kiki[Laughter] you're I'm so serious I'm so serious

Brian Atlasall right cool cool cool um all right uh did we get through all the chats we got through all the chats thank you Kyle Kelsey appreciate it man um let's see uh oh Julia we didn't get into some of

Brian Atlasyour stuff but it's super [ __ ] late I can keep going okay [ __ ] it we'll do five minutes then we're 5 10 minutes then we're going to wrap said which is what I said 20 minutes ago okay

Kikiuh you're the one you breathe in

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Kiki[Laughter]

Brian Atlasso go getting to tears sh some milk welcome to the whatever podcast we're we're talking about hot button political

Brian Atlasor things hot button topics gets [ __ ] cracking up yeah it's funny what can I say with hot

Brian Atlasgirls well let not and hot get ahead of our hot girls and hot guys I'm let's not get thee of our speaking of hot people Stiffler ask everyone to write their

Kikilooks on the scale of 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead say like a seven okay it's actually too late for this I got you I

Brian Atlasgot you got it P Parisa you have 10 options answer the question answer the question go go go I don't know I'm just

Brian Atlasyou got this I I believe in you wait you asked me hold on draw energy have you have you seen Dragon Ball Z have you seen Dragon Ball Z no I haven't okay Goku has a thing called The Spirit Bomb

Brian Atlaswhere he raises his hands in the air and asks for the the the people to send him their power your hands in the air I'm not going I'm not going to do that what you need to do is ask your curls to send

Brian Atlasyou power to your brain so that you can get through this last one or two questions on the scale of 1 to 10 what do you rate yourself same as her seven okay wait is it like physical looks

Siennalooks looks looks uh

Julia7.5 eight 10 last time I said six but I got so many nice compliments that said I was wrong so I'm going to say

Steveseven I'm going to go 8.5 because barcel Sports says don't do solid numbers oh okay nice that was good MADD I give myself a six I give myself a

Juliasix What's happen Courtney what 10 yeah H okay

Courtney Ferrisokay she knows her he doesn't think anyone's a 10 yeah no my boyfriend's watching so he would want me to say that too well what if your boyfriend wasn't watching what would you say 10 you still

Brian Atlassay 10 absolutely does it change if we have Leon here ask the penel to rate themselves based on how they think other people perceive them looks only yeah absolutely still a 10 no oh like a little puppy what do you think that

Brian Atlaswould I would rate myself a 10 cuz self Lov but how other people see me I mean that's going to range would you but if we lined up a thousand people they all gave you a number maybe some guy says 10 but

Brian Atlasmaybe other guys say six whatever if we had to average it out what do you think the average would be I like seven or eight okay all

Kikiright so

Brian Atlassorry um wow what does that mean so pretty good times um am I being passive aggressive if I

Kikidon't get your joke does that still make it funny oh my God I don't know that's a philosophical question sorry stop don't make me laugh

Brian Atlasmore I'm trying playing with fire playing with fire literally you're I feel like you're a fiery individual per paresa I would say

Steveso do you have a fire astrology sign is that a thing I don't know gini though we talk about signs what do you guys think about guys what do you think about men who live in IV what do you think about

Parisaoh I Vista here like this city I don't know do you do you sbcc boys what do you think of them I don't know I haven't had the best interactions but like I don't

Brian Atlasknow what do you guys think of men I prefer women I prefer women no just like what do you think of what do you think of men in general yeah not even within a dating

Gretacontext necessarily they're super useful are men trash um I've heard that from some

Gretawomen some are trash some are horse some are nice are good okay all right okay Parisa I don't know I don't really spend

Brian Atlasmy time thinking about men like that like I don't know I don't know you spend your time thinking about the patriarchy and the oppression but not about like women I think we live in the

Parisamatriarchy women are in power gynocentric Society gy gynocentric yeah does this have to do with the Le fasty thing from

Brian Atlasearlier like five hours ago I don't know you brought no that's totally unrelated but speaking of which any women who have an Audi DM me my DMs are open if you have an

Brian AtlasAudi what women are allowed to have a genitalia preference big labia matter women are allowed to have a genitalia preference I can have a labia preference

Juliay'all like big dicks i' like big lebia huh stop hating I can get behind it is that is it easier to pleasure what the [ __ ] is it easier to no navigate no it's

Brian Atlasabout the same more to eat just more lips that grip yeah look I like both I like Ines and udis I like Ines

Brian Atlasand udis but it's probably why DM's open just saying oh okay Julia yeah okay this we got to get through this Jesus Christ okay where are my

Brian Atlasfreaking notes uh oh you said you had a bunch of like virgin girlfriends that are just DTF know I've just know you know some virgin girls that are just DTF and they can't

Parisafind a guy I mean start a service for them I see them low key like I'm not going to lie like I feel like like guys think that there are not girls out there that are actually like looking for guys

Parisaand like don't have options but like there are some I think cap it's Les they're probably just like curving they're probably just like curving like I mean from what I've seen they're they're not but I'm going to

Brian Atlasgive them the benefit of the doubt and say that they're Curr how many virgins do you currently know that are like just dying how many virgin currently DTF they're just DTF cuz if I'm I'm available just saying

Brian Atlasoh my God I'm I'm free you said it's easy for men to I'm I'm literally offering them penis but I want a relationship too but also the penis is available Brian have you

Stevebeen with a virgin I have yes how'd that go have you been with a born again virgin um does she stalk you not

Brian Atlasreal what's that did she stalk you afterwards uh I mean there's a I'm not going to talk about that one girl but um no they've been cool they're not like

Brian Atlasstage what's that thing from Wedding Crashers like stage five flinger flinger good new movie by the way um okay sorry I didn't mean to what was I saying also want a

Brian Atlasrelationship but also I'm available for dick appointments just saying but also want a relationship I'm not see my thing is is like and maybe I'm going to like

Brian Atlassound like uh simp for this or whatever I don't want to sport [ __ ] like if I have sex with a girl I want to keep seeing her I want to pursue it for a relationship

Brian Atlasso um yeah you going to play like Matchmaker what's up I thought it was I I thought it was hard for women to get laid I am I am

Brian Atlashere I'm available maybe I'll send them your way and that's unlikely Gap well it's unlikely you'd send them my way just on the basis of the words that have come out of my mouth tonight but um because

Brian AtlasI because I've disagreed with you on things which I think is fine but umap it's okay to disagree the age Gap would be a yeah probably

Brian Atlashey a lot of girls like odor men no I mean that's we can talk after the show what's what is interesting to me though is when it comes to the age Gap

Brian Atlasstuff and I know you wanted to talk about age Gap a little bit is that a lot of like when it comes to age Gap stuff and I'm sitting here communicating like

Brian AtlasI would I would date a girl who's 21 who for a long-term serious monogamous relationship a lot of women would rather see that girl go out every weekend have

Brian Atlasindiscriminate casual sex with guys her age who don't give a [ __ ] about her just have sex with a new guy every single weekend then see her in a healthy loving

Brian Atlascommitted monogamous relationship with a guy who's older than her so I always thought that's kind of interesting guys will tell you that too tell you what how you probably shouldn't be in a

Madisonrelationship at a young age and take anything seriously until you're 25 5 years old or older than that I've gotten that a lot that is true yeah yeah like older people will tell you that yeah

Brian Atlasyeah I don't know like what do you think is worse a woman who's 21 who is dating a guy in his late 20s or early 30s who's monogamous with her who wants to pursue a long-term relationship with her and he

Brian Atlasloves her and she loves him or a woman who and this is probably much more currence at this age who's 21 sleeps with men her age in that a new man her

Brian Atlasage every single weekend engages in hookup culture casual sex F has a bunch of sex with [ __ ] boys that don't care about her sleeps

Juliawith 10 20 30 guys in a year never has obviously the former okay is better the first option I would word but if she want I

Brian Atlasthink it's just rare to find a 21-year-old girl who has decided that's the lifestyle she wants at that point there are there are there yeah I'm not I'm not like hanging out love them I'm not hanging out at college parties but

Brian Atlasif a if a beautiful 21-year-old girl DMS me is that the dream oh they it they do so what do you do do you go on dates with them well a lot of these girls are

Brian Atlaslike in different parts of the country and [ __ ] but maybe they'll fly in on a plane to be on the podcast and then you can take them out no comment on the flying out thing um but uh what was I saying

Brian Atlasum but no I'm not like hanging out at college parties like trying to like the no I'm not like I'm not going out I'm not like going out of my way to try to

Brian Atlasdate a 21-year-old but if a 21y old if a 21-year-old who aligns with some of the My Views when like doesn't drink doesn't go to bars doesn't party doesn't go to clubs and she reaches out to me I'm not

Juliagoing to be like sorry I don't want to date you because because you're 21 but tell me this would you prioritize that over let then let's say you meet like a 30-year-old and she's you have

Juliabetter it I mean it depends Dynamics and so but do you prioritize a 21-year-old because she's younger or do you prioritize the girl who you have a better stronger connection with but she's well I mean it depends all things

Juliabeing equal all things being equal all well that's that's well except for the fact that you have a better connection with the 30-year-old why are you smelling the microphone she told me to smell it does it smell weird it does it

Brian Atlassmells like some breath I it's probably your breath no it was there before oh I got the St Loki looks a little like different it's probably because you want to spell it some chicks are like making

Brian Atlasout with the microphone and [ __ ] yeah they having six guys the night before and then coming on show I

Brian Atlasmean so what's the question like uh the question was if if the totality of circumstances if the totality of

Brian Atlascircumstances if you have if the 31-year-old woman is in totality when when factoring in looks and when

Brian Atlasfactoring in uh her personality all these factors if the totality is that she's better yeah I'm going to probably go with the 31y old and if her body is as good as a 21y old that means she's

Brian Atlasactually like working out for it well not necessarily but the totality of everything that she's bringing to the table it could outweigh outweigh what the 21 World in totality yeah is

Brian Atlasbringing to the table Yeah so it's not immediately the case that I'm you would always go for the younger girl because the 31-year-old in some in some Realms

Brian Atlaswould is could outperform the younger girl yeah I I think I think normally she would but you'd have to like find me two

Brian Atlaspeople to compare to but generally speaking like when it comes to just purely physical attaction I would say yeah a woman who's

Brian Atlas21 I can't think of any woman who at 21 is is less attractive at 21 than she will be at 31 I think

Juliame no I really I was the Late Bloomer I'm not lying you were there's no way you're more attrative Bible I'm more attractive now than I was at 19 I highly doubt that believe you it took me I did not doubt that I can show you a picture

Brian AtlasI highly show me yes show me not not to the camera but okay you can show me you can show me a picture all right she's trying to sell herself to me no

Juliauh word all right are you okay so that have to go on Facebook to find it yeah guys

Brian Atlasgo to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub uh bear thing already peen thank thank for the prime nothing explains thank the prime appreciate it um

Brian Atlaspeen oh man the peen stop shaming small peens guys it's rude small pens matter too not pencil

Brian Atlashater hater's going to hate oh we can come back um oh [ __ ] man we got to okay Julia in the last show you said the perfect you

Brian Atlasdated recently a perfect guy but you didn't feel the click mhm he was the perfect person in every way attractive had a good job was nice was pleasant but you didn't

Brian Atlaswant him okay yes I yes I know this gu he was perfect in every single way but you just didn't feel the click you didn't feel the

Juliaspark yes why is the question one of the and he didn't make the PQ Brian oh my god oh come on you liked

Brian Atlasthat phrase on Sunday what does that mean there was a there was a comment there was a comment about that and um

Brian AtlasI'm so confused so yeah a wise the comment said A wise man once said most older single women have met their husband they just threw them away I that guy was probably husband

Courtney Ferrismaterial but because you didn't feel the click you didn't feel the click maybe he's not your husband you know someone else's I know you didn't feel the click there was no spark theem that [ __ ] matters well he doesn't believe in that but I don't believe in that I think that's something that can develop I

Brian Atlasdon't think it needs to be there instantly that's why I know but I think I gave it a fair shot that's why women fall for players because players know how to talk to you in a certain way to

Brian Atlaselicit that click or that chemistry or that spark that's not true no it that's 100% true because a player a player is

Brian Atlasable to elicit that that that thing that excitement in a lot of women most women and do you think like the nerdy software engineer guy who would be a great

Brian Atlaspartner and a great father elicits the click in any [ __ ] woman no you're looking for a certain guy who's exciting to some degree who has Riz who has Charisma but there are plenty of good

Brian Atlasmen that would make fantastic partners that would never cheat on you that would be loyal that would be great fathers that don't have the Riz that don't that

Brian Atlasyou'll never feel the [ __ ] click for because the click is [ __ ] how many guys that you've dated you had the click with and they ended up being toxic

Brian Atlaspieces of [ __ ] that treated you horribly yeah do the atomic

Juliabomb all right but okay this is first off this is a blurry I'll show you another one here let me okay I'm sorry you can tell she was

Juliaright the worst picture ever it's not the worst picture ever lighting is like sepia tone lighting was 2014 the phones weren't as good here's that that's with Aaron Paul is that better why are you

Juliaholding a [ __ ] pizza because we got pizza with Aaron Paul oh I see he's the guy break it's like a

Brian Atlasgrainy photo here you look pretty I mean it's obviously you in the photo um I don't think you look better now than in this photo that's certainly the case I

Juliadon't know if it's much of a difference but gentlemen yeah I'm such a nice guy right um I think you glue up I think I GL glue up majorly dreams to get picked up at

JuliaTrader Joe's where every girl's dream place to get asked out by here you go guys what do you think he's like it's greeny I don't know I don't glow

Brian Atlasupow the highlights are doing she's she's wearing a sweatshirt and sweat her Face's dressed there's there's ones I'm dressed up like her face looks so much

Juliamore like mature and defined now like thank you she looks like a thank you I took my I learned about skin care I started I eat a bag of

Brian Atlasspinach every day I started working out I'm just saying I like wom yeah let me just say this I kind of like women with a chubby face so I'm

Brian Atlasjust I'm you know you had a chubbier face back then so you know like the little yes I had chubby cheek I know it's a glow up yeah thank

Steveyou dis AOW disavow what I don't know how I feel about that I want to see you at 19 oh I was chadly chadly studly man I was a studly

Brian Atlasman wait what's that from uh slap at the base have you guys seen that movie no slap in the Bas man yeah I've seen a

Juliamovie what movie is that from it's from uh I love you man oh I think wait right yeah slap the Bas okay all right Paul R Paul red dang I can't believe you don't

Brian Atlasokay everyone it's unanimous I don't think we have time to do [ __ ] okay I don't know do we have time probably your podcast Dam we do yeah no it's it's more so the downstairs neighbor I don't want to make a lot it's

Brian Atlasgetting late so I want to be courteous and we've already gone a little bit late so okay we should wrap up here um last thing Julie of the vulnerable thing

Brian Atlaswe talked about that last show right we talked about the vulnerable thing yeah okay whatever we're going to wrap up any final thoughts here before we wrap up speak now forever hold your

Kikipece peace is held yeah I got nothing else to say peace up a town down what yeah a sure hello

Brian Atlasum ladies I am single she she does know maybe this is even for you Steve because you haven't been nearly as toxic as I have tonight she knows some virgin women

Parisathat want to have sex tonight in your area that's like one of those weird ads I see those ads all the time they never they never pick up that's her she's she has the ad I don't know people in Santa Barbara I'm not going to lie the crowd here is really different than where I'm

Stevefrom oh where you from I'm from the bay area but like a small people [ __ ] in the Bay Area hello are you from Oakland small town I'm not going to say it are they part of

Parisathe community the lgbtq community no but I'd say that the town that I'm from was just a lot more conservative in general and like the population there was like definitely way different definitely

Stevedifferent I don't know about y'all but the the gay people I know are we they be [ __ ] that's yeah they they they pull my buddy

Stevewait the women or the guys both the guys they pull guys the girls that they want them whatever gay guys be

Brian Atlas[ __ ] they get it in I know the story good for them and of course the Navy good for them oh right the Navy thing right good

Brian Atlastimes last call if you want to say anything if you want to be like hey Brian by the way patriarchy exist I know you I'm just tired wait okay okay last thing last thing last oh my God the

Kiki[ __ ] mic attacked me did you see that [ __ ] the mic came out of nowhere just [ __ ] hit me okay have you ever had a sugar daddy yes

Brian Atlasno yeah no no no I [ __ ] wish Sugar Mama okay um how did you meet him have you been on that website

Gretaseeking um I tried it the Sugar Daddy website yeah I didn't really wasn't in the mood to go like out to dinner with anybody so I didn't do it but I love going out to dinner he actually he was my sister's sugar

Gretadaddyy and then he found me through venmo a legacy family and then he oh man messed me on extremely predatory Legacy

Gretaoh yeah he's a great he was that he sends me some funny pictures oh he hit me up first when I was like 15 I didn't answer him God that's aik wait what were

Brian Atlasyou doing on seek seeking at 15 don't you have to be 18 to be on that no I'm talking about my venmo sugar daddy oh wait what how did you meet him

Gretacuz he found me cuz he was my sister's sugar daddy oh what the [ __ ] yeah he's weird wow you were 15 that's that's you're a creep Dean exposed um we all

Gretaknew that from Gilmore Girls have you had the sugar daddy recently though like after 18 yeah it's the same one I you still he hit me up at 15 I didn't

Gretarespond to him until I was no 17 and then I just ghosted him cuz he wasn't paying up enough but he's still your

Brian Atlassugar daddy how much how much has he sent you total probably like three grand oh life on easy mode life on easy mode life on easy mode uh what about you

Siennasugar daddy mine's not that much is it current um no I stopped texting him because he got a bit creepy so he would like

Siennauh he would refer to his like dick as a bulge and he'd be like I'm bulging I'm bulging could do it anymore

Siennawhat and it and you should see what he looks like how much did he pay you like total yeah like 350 like not that much but I

Siennadidn't do anything yeah I would message with him but then um and send him like selfies yeah um about it and hear about his bulge yeah hear about his bulge and the

Brian Atlasso he just text you what would you say back would you I would was like a degradation thing you would degrade him like yeah [ __ ] your bulge [ __ ] your bulge is weak son no he sent me this photo let me step on it no I told

Siennahim to never send me a photo of your dick I was like please and then he said he sent one and he was like I'm so sorry my bull just stupid he sent me a picture of his dick and it was 14 in long okay

Siennathat's from the internet I'm sure no it was on Snapchat like it was a Snapchat you see his face okay but I didn't it looked unbelievably long like it no

Siennaunbelievably long like I could and really SC what if he Photoshopped it he might have because like that was unbel yeah maybe he Photoshopped it unbelievable and like his that's true if that's true that his

Siennadick was that big like I'd be really creeped out if I ever saw him in person like it's just like his face does not it's always it's the sneaky it's the

Juliatall skinny white guys that I've heard have the are pack in the most have the forearm penis M pretty tall that's what I've heard word on the

Juliastreet no I don't know okay whatever um all right no one's ever heard that good yeah okay thank you yeah that's a thing that's a thing um Can why

Brian Atlaswhy are you doing that to the microphone stand Pisa I'm just getting so little that was a little inappropriate like I think you just I think you just actually you just sexually assulted my

Parisamicrophone stand I feel like you're sexualizing my innocent action and sexualizing me as a woman because if I was a man would you

Brian Atlashave still perceived my actions as that sexual actually yes I would yes I would have I think well you just you're missing a look at whoa oh wo okay please do not do that to the you

Brian Atlasguys are abusing the microphones okay all right guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and super uh supports the show excuse me

Brian Atlasthank you to the panel any women who want to be on the show DM whatever on Instagram we will be we we will be live again Sunday at

Brian Atlas5:00 P p.m. Pacific we have a very good panel for that show I'm going to those of you on Twitch I'm going to send the raid to frost adamus he is currently playing World of Warcraft I believe he's

Brian Atlasleveling leveling a mage in hardcore World of Warcraft classic for the I don't know if he's doing the MAA tournament but I'm those of you on Twitch I'm sending you over there now so

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