RAGEQUIT KEEKO Returns! She Has 3 Baby Daddies?! | Dating Talk #88
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“I am your host Brian Atlas I'm joined by my co-host Kiki she's a bit shy”
“I have three baby daddies three... um two from one and then one from see this is where it gets really confusing”
“I have a mental illness um I am bipolar one”
“one of them is completely abstinent we met at Mass... the other one is a little bit older about 10 to 15 years older than me and um he just got a divorce like a year ago”
“I think you said you rated yourself on the look scale a six but on a good day of 6.9... so are you a five or am I seven”
“um so you know I've had a lot of feedback in the recent months about my parents and I've been kind of taking a mental note... I'll give myself a nice like six maybe seven”
“you've been convinced... well I mean you guys are telling me that it's not what I see myself as is what everyone else views me and they've given me their feedback so I've seen the feedback”
“men need help attracting women women need help retaining men absolutely women need relationship advice men need attraction advice”
“I was in jail you got you got arrested yeah I did for for grabbing my phone out of a guys hand who was assaulting me yes”
“I have my favorite podcast episode I've been on yet has it it has this has been lovely”
Topics Discussed
Brian introduces Kiko as co-host. All guests give names, ages, occupations. Brian then asks each guest their relationship status and longest relationship.
Jenna reveals she has 4 kids by 3 different men. Timeline established: first child at 19, second at ~21 (didn't know she was pregnant and was dating a new man; original father has 5 kids with different mothers), third and fourth at ~22-23 with that man. She lost near-full custody due to jail history; rebuilding co-parenting. Bipolar 1 disclosed. Panel and Brian react. Discussion of impulsivity and how bipolar manifests.
Milan explains she is courting two men (Catholic/abstinent man from Mass, and a recently divorced older man). Both men know. She describes herself as polygenist (closed on her end, open on man's end). Panel discusses whether men actually want the woman to initiate commitment. Dan discusses how he 'told' Billy Ray they were in a relationship rather than asking.
Discussion of the passport bros movement (men traveling abroad to find foreign women). Guests debate whether it is effective, whether foreign women also manipulate men, and whether it signals a legitimate protest flag to Western women. Dan argues it highlights that Western men are expected to be chivalrous without a clearly defined female equivalent duty.
Dan poses the question: if chivalry is the male duty, what is the female equivalent? Michaela/SPEAKER_02 references Proverbs 31. Kiko describes being a homemaker as her version of female chivalry. Milan discusses hypo-feminine vs. independent women as emerging camps. Dan discusses leadership in relationships as more nuanced than a dictatorship. Multiple women say they have been the dominant one in prior relationships and found it unsatisfying.
Brian asks the panel: gun ownership in a partner — positive, negative, or neutral? All who respond say positive (with training/education caveats). Madison says positive. Priya says positive. Billy Ray says positive.
Nicole (from pre-show notes) wanted to discuss Brian's self-rating of 6. She suggested she might be cuter than him. Brian runs a live stream poll — 75% vote Nicole is cuter. Discussion of objective beauty standards, facial symmetry, race and attractiveness studies. Brian suggests Kristin Kreuk and Ana de Armas as near-tens.
Brian pulls up a superchatter request for everyone to rate themselves 1-10. Kiko revised down from her usual '10' to 5-6 after processing negative feedback from her comment sections. Jenna: 6 (jokes she is a 10 on the reservation). Milan: 6. Madison: ~7 (6.5 without makeup, 8 on a good day). Nicole: 6.7 (consistent across 3 episodes). Billy Ray: 6.7 (consistent 3 episodes). Dan: solid 8 (highest male self-rating at table). Extensive debate about objective vs. subjective beauty standards. Brian: 6. Kiko noted this is the first time a man rated himself highest at the table.
Milan reveals she was arrested in Ojai, CA in the days before the episode. The man she was dating (Phoenix/older man) became physically aggressive when she repeatedly refused him over 3 days. She grabbed her phone back while recording the incident; California domestic violence law required the responding officers to arrest her despite apologizing. They escorted her to safety afterward. The case is expected to be dropped due to her video evidence. She has since ended contact with that man.
Panel reacts to a post-show note Nicole wrote about the Jonah Hill text message controversy. Discussion of whether his demands were boundaries or control. Nicole argues they were controlling; Kiko says women should stop posting provocative photos when in a relationship. Dan discusses his texting approach with Billy Ray. Billy Ray discusses running content by Dan before posting. Panel discusses the difference between a boundary and manipulation.
Panel discusses whether women like being approached by men at bars/clubs. Kiko says she dislikes it in general but has never been rude. Madison (SPEAKER_09) says positive if tasteful. Billy Ray says she avoided bars so rarely encountered it. Dan argues men approach because they have to — deficit model. Discussion of day game vs. bar approaches. Kiko notes her boyfriend approached her at her job.
Billy Ray announces she got off birth control this month. Dan and Billy Ray explain the research (book: Beyond the Pill) about birth control affecting immune-based mate selection and post-pill hormone changes. Billy Ray notes symptoms (breakouts, feeling more in tune with body). Kiko defends birth control for period regulation. Panel discusses whether recommending going off birth control on a show mostly watched by men is responsible.
Final thoughts from guests. Michaela encourages fellow Christian singles to use singleness season for God. Kiko recommends men get out of their routines and join social groups. Milan recommends men work on confidence and self-improvement. Priya acknowledges being too afraid to approach men and says she is working on it. Dan discusses the pheromone/birth control study and mate selection. Show wraps.
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