PSYCHO Feminist KICKED OUT?! 1 RAGE QUIT?! CRYING?! Andrew Wilson! E-girls! | Dating Talk #126

Date: 2023-12-11

Duration: 7h 21m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSavannah (DT126)>

AAshley (DT126)>

AAthena (DT126)>

AAndrew Wilson >

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_02Ashley(guest)

SPEAKER_03V (Velvet)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Mia / Jeff Dye(guest)

SPEAKER_06Ashley(guest)

SPEAKER_07Cara(guest)

SPEAKER_08Athena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Savannah(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_11Athena(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteAthena reveals she accidentally reported a suspected credit card fraudster to hotel security while drunk, causing him to disappear for two months.

“I just go I know he's doing crime to the concierge... and then he just disappeared off the face of the Earth for two months”

ControversyAthena attempts to leave mid-show for first time, citing discomfort and a 'male platonic friend' getting mad.

“I think I just want to go... I don't know I just not feeling it”

ControversyV/Vel confronts Brian about not greeting guests before the show. Brian deflects; Andrew calls her a 'spoiled brat'. Jeff de-escalates.

“I kind of feel disrespected”

OtherAshley (pink shirt/SPEAKER_06) leaves the show after Andrew Wilson calls her a 'skank' on air. Andrew declines to apologize.

“he called me skank... Andrew do you want to apologize... under no circumstances I stand by what I said”

OtherBrian invites Kiki (off-camera co-host) to join the panel mid-show to replace the departed Ashley.

“welcome Kiki you're going to contribute far more to this conversation than that woman”

OtherAthena walks off panel in tears after seeing hostile live chat comments. Returns ~5 minutes later.

“I just need a little break... I've never been in a situation like this before”

QuoteV/Vel discloses she punched two police officers on separate occasions and broke into an ex's apartment with a patio chair, stealing his social security card.

“I got really lucky... I have um no record... punched a cop in the face which is a felony and I got a citation”

QuoteV/Vel discloses history with SeekingArrangements (sugar dating/sex work) while calling herself a traditional woman and radical feminist.

“there is no such thing as going on a date with a guy and thinking you're not going to have to touch them... that is 100% you're paying for sex”

ControversyV/Vel escalates from general feminist claims to asserting the vast majority of men are innately pedophiles. Brian, Jeff, and Andrew push back demanding evidence. Brian prepares to kick her off.

“I think the vast majority yes innately yes biologically yes... if granted the opportunity to get away with having sex with a 15-year-old girl with no repercussions they would do it”

ControversyBrian kicks V/Vel off the show after she claims the vast majority of men are pedophiles by nature.

“get the get the off the show... out you go”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce names, ages, occupations, and locations. Brian introduces Andrew Wilson as call-in guest. Relationship status round.

Age gaps and dating older men

Athena's relationship with a 29-31yo real estate billionaire at age 18. Debate over whether age gaps are inherently problematic. Billionaire details questioned by Andrew.

Feminist identity / definitions of feminism

Discussion of who identifies as feminist, definitions from first through fourth wave feminism, TERF positions, radical feminism vs. traditionalism. V/Vel's contradictory self-labeling as both radical feminist and traditional woman is central.

Women's legal equality and abortion rights

Whether men and women are legally equal in the US. Athena argues women are disadvantaged; Brian and Andrew counter that men lack bodily autonomy (selective service). Abortion debate briefly touched.

Prison reform and incarceration

Sparked by men's bodily autonomy / military conscription discussion. Athena states she 'doesn't believe in prison'; debate over rehabilitation vs. punishment, private vs. federal prisons.

Greater male variability hypothesis and intelligence

Brian raises the greater male variability hypothesis. Andrew explains it: men show greater variance in intelligence at extremes. Jeff asks for evolutionary explanation.

V/Vel's criminal history and confrontational behavior

V/Vel discloses two arrests for battery on police officers, breaking into ex's apartment with a patio chair, stealing his social security card and passport. Tensions escalate. Brian accuses her of trolling. Andrew calls her 'spoiled brat'.

Sex work, OnlyFans, and sugar daddies

V/Vel discloses sex work past on SeekingArrangements. Cara (Mia) discloses current adult content work. Discussion of OnlyFans typers, parasocial relationships, fraud concerns, whether OnlyFans negatively impacts relationship prospects. Catholic faith vs. sex work reconciliation.

Male oppression vs. female oppression

Wide-ranging debate: military conscription, sentencing disparities, police brutality statistics, wage gap debunking, circumcision at birth. Brian argues male oppression (draft) dwarfs all female grievances combined. Athena concedes some points.

Dating standards: height, first-date payment, traditionalism

Height preferences around the table. Whether men should pay on first dates. Brian's argument that traditional treatment must be earned in the modern dating market.

OnlyFans, typers, and romance scam theory

Brian develops theory that OnlyFans typers constitute legal fraud/false advertising/romance scam. Discussion of parasocial dynamics, men spending large sums expecting emotional connection.

Wage gap debate

Brian debunks wage gap citing hours worked, job type, seniority, education. Compares to male workplace injury/death gap. Cara (Mia) defends her mother's welding career as example.

Transcript

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Athenapoint I'm say the things that in the past that were that were preo societal that now we still do just because we did

Andrew Wilsonit a thousand years ago does not make it moral and two perfect so if that's true and it's it's not moral then give me the moral argument against it outside of you

Athenajust don't prefer it I was going to do that next and then you yeah then do it okay so if a 34 year-old is dating an

Athena18-year-old they that 18-year-old like doesn't have any maturity doesn't know anything has no frame of reference around the world they're not in a good place in their life they don't have a they probably aren't successful or as

Athenasuccessful as they would be later um the dating pool is objectively way less far in their career so you just in every way other than sexual preference there's nothing about an 18-year-old that is

Andrew Wilsonattractive other than sexual preference so for can you give me the argument for how that's immoral yet are you ever going to get so when should we let choose could I keep talking erroneous could I keep talking well are you ever never going to get to the actual point

Andrew Wilsonhow is it immoral give me that answer please don't don't restate all the conditions which it exists under tell me the argument for how it's immoral can I yeah okay please so for a man to be

Athenadating someone with only sexual preference in mind and for a woman to not know that and be dating them and like their personality and want to be around them it's kind of weird for a man to be okay with this person having this

Athenalike emotional connection to them well I'm not saying it's disgusting I'm not are you going to get to the part where it's immoral ever you okay but why are you assuming

Andrew Wilsonthat that's the case that an older guy hang on hang on Brian just real quick can you give me an actual argument for the immorality or not you just keep restating the conditions I don't care about the conditions why is it immoral I

Andrew Wilsonto me that's immoral if it's not to you then we have a different moral compass which okay so to you it's immoral so it's immoral because it's immoral because it's immoral can you give me the actual argument for why it's immoral or are you just going to keep restating the conditions and your preferences give me

V (Velvet)the argument for why it's immoral Andrew when you have a moment when we're done with this I do have a question directly to you I'll you're going to answer my question sorry or you just going to say that you

Andrew Wilsondon't have an argument for why it's immoral just take the L explain my argument we can disagree there was no argument you never made an argument all you did was give me a sequence of conditions in which it could happen okay

Athenafine I can see all those conditions how is it immoral give me the argument say that about any argument that's a fake argument cuz you could really say that about anything that's been said oh you just gave me conditions give me an

Andrew Wilsonargument give me an argument give me an argument you an AR anyone why it's moral ask me a moral question I'll give you an argument argument way this is coming

Brian Atlasfrom a girl who at 18 willingly dated a 30-year-old billionaire I don't object to you dating a 30-year-old but it's

Brian Atlasincredibly convenient for you to say that oh it's wrong for a older guy to date a younger woman woman in mind for a woman an older woman to dat a younger

Andrew Wilsonman too that should be mentioned I don't think either wrong last question last question is wrong go ahead go ahead Andrew without stating a preference or conditions that you just like don't

Andrew Wilsonwithout restating the conditions can you actually give me an argument and the contrary to this is you can ask me a moral question and I will give you an argument from the perception of my morality for why something is wrong or

Andrew Wilsonright can you actually tell me why this is immoral outside of dating the conditions I don't care about the conditions why is it immoral because if you're letting someone think you love them and you

Brian Atlasdon't love them what but that's a that's another condition you're adding on top of it like what if a 30-year-old guy say have the same maturity level it'd be fine sometimes it's maturity level yeah

Brian Atlassometimes it's okay I'm not saying every single but isize do you think that me that men and boys your age are immature yeah sometimes that's a to Checkmate

Brian Atlasyou've just lost the argument you've just lost the argument because because if it's the case that you view men that are your age as immature by default then you must pair up with and partner with men who are

Brian Atlasolder than you because you view them as more mature I think that I'm immature equally but do you think you're but do you think you're more mature you can't generalize that do think

Athenathere such a disparity with ages but it's a common Trope I hear from women that men my age they're so immature blah blah blah like there's it takes two to tango there's just an opportunity a

Brian Atlashigher opportunity to be women also tend to date and find men who are older whether it's one even one or two or three years more attractive the opportunity for can I can

Brian AtlasI can I just ask a question but it's lit no no no it's literally hypocritical because it's okay for you to date a guy who's 30 when you're 18 because he's a billionaire don't you think it's something attractive about a guy having his together like just a guy like

Mia / Jeff Dyeoh my gosh this guy's got a whole home or it's clean or he actually is like he replies right away without being drunk at some frat party there are advantages to dating an older man that you might find attractive maybe you don't so you'd

Mia / Jeff Dyehave like a reason there's a multiple variants of why you might like an older man and there's multiple variants of why a man might like a younger woman also if you're going to say that he's wrong for doing a thing you should be able to tell him why it's wrong you've been wanting

Carato say something into the mic please sorry I'm not on I I'm not necessarily going to stand with her side but I understand where she's saying it's immoral it's immoral technically because if there is an an intention with Advantage the advantage would be I'm

Carasleeping with the younger girl I can convince her and pursue her to have sex with me possibly be her first partner if not one of very few because she thinks that you're cooler and yeah and because I can convince her that I am better than

Brian Atlasor I can teach her things quote unquote which a lot of men do say SC all these things that's what she's want to date a woman you's com and argumenta Hyper

Brian Atlasmascul you're super said in your ways yes of we do want to date Pleasant women heaven forbid a man wants to date a pleasant women a woman who hasn't had a ton of trauma and who has a

V (Velvet)ton of baggage from previous relationship ask one question one question to you to both of you and Andrew let me ask you this and to anybody who's watching I I'm genuinely so

V (Velvet)curious I'm going to present you a situation if there's a situation where there is a gorgeous beautiful kind sweet

Brian Atlasinnocent virgin she's 15 years old no no no no let me ask she's 15 years old I'm not going to even entertain that question we because we

V (Velvet)are talking about why is it so crazy why is it Guided by lot why what's wrong with what's wrong with 15 you can do 18 you can do 17 talking about adult

V (Velvet)relationship so what's ad 18 is the law has what the law says but I'm just saying but don't you want fertile Peak fertility what I like women who are no

V (Velvet)no no shut shut up I like shut up shut up you just admit you would a 15-year-old and that's crazy you get away with it if you could get away with it hold on no no

Brian Atlasno no no hold on first off I like blonde women that doesn't mean I would date a blonde that's 12 what the I said 15 so just because of no no no for okay

Andrew Wilsonfirst off yeah so here let's the argument let me just respond to the argument directly okay so the argument is could there be some men who have that preference or is your argument that we

V (Velvet)have that preference I wasn't even able to answer finish the question I if there was but if you were able to be presented with an opportunity where there zero legal consequence and nobody would ever

Mia / Jeff Dyeknow I would say I wouldn't do it because morality that would so what is so objective morality is 18 what is what happens the day that they turn such a bad Fai 17 it's disgusting

Mia / Jeff Dyeif you're would be turned right back against you you're saying the age of consent is arbitrary I don't know is it well I'm asking you you're making the point that like men that do really terrible things make when you say the

Mia / Jeff Dyethings like well what's so magic about my brain that it changes when it turns 18 the law has determined that 18 is the thing the Law's always correct it's your brain my point is

V (Velvet)what else do you have what else do you have other countries and I said if law did not exist if law did not exist so would you a 15-year-old if the law didn't if we're talking about the law or

AshleyAC the law I still I still believe in a standard for objective morality I wouldn't do it yeah and I'm hoping men would BR speak no I'm just they're thinking about like okay a 19-year-old

Ashleydating a 34y old we're talking about adult relationship adult women Rel some people like a younger girl um because

Brian Atlasthey obviously haven't been you know ran through or like there's plent they're more physically attractive more emotionally available more romantic more energy optimistic about the future

Brian Atlasnaivity is also kind of sweet easy do you guys mind real quick if I get into this with her real quick cuz it'll only take a couple minutes wait let me before you do there's like one other video that I want to switch to

Brian Atlasreally quick just to get it out of the way and then we'll we'll hammer in on the um here let's just play that really quick sess it's fairness is the audio it is so immensely frustrating as a woman

V (Velvet)to still find it difficult to answer such a simple question how are men and women different where is the inequality conservatives love to say this they love to ask this and it's a very good

V (Velvet)question because legally we are extraordinarily similar women lead in education it's an incentive to hire a lot of women for growing companies we can buy buy land we can divorce and we

V (Velvet)can wear whatever we want without getting fined so where are we just so different men don't fear walking alone at night yes men do not fear getting

V (Velvet)drugged at a party erroneous men don't fear taken advantage of by a woman Yes Men Don't Fear their bosses and co-workers Crossing an inappropriate

Brian Atlasline yes men don't fear yes yes that's absolute that's absolute first off the reality is when it comes to violent crime men are much

Mia / Jeff Dyemore likely to be victims of violent crime assault robbery by each other ding dong yeah but but that's society you would have been assaulted multiple times if you were a male for

Mia / Jeff Dyesaying the things that you've said so raing by other men ding dong that's not an argument that is that's not an argument Society Yeah by men that's not

Andrew Wilsonan argument yes it is no it's not what's the well then what is the argument she's saying she's saying no no let her State the argument what's the argument the reality is that it it's a

V (Velvet)completely different reality when you're a woman versus when you're a man and that okay yeah that's great what's the argument the argument is that when you're walking home at night men are not

V (Velvet)turning over their shoulder every we are from other men we are not no you're not I don't walk around Chicago late at night literally no you're not not like women there is there's a different

Savannahsomebody who has been physically assaulted mple I literally hung out with so many men that I'm like we're just walking down the street and they're constantly like what the keep suing men dick they're not going to ever

Mia / Jeff Dyerespect reality don't about I've been mugged multiple times yeah you've been I'm a maned I've been jumped I'm very

Andrew Wilsonsituationally aware if I'm in if I'm that women are scary what how do you um how do you justify and reconcile these the first thought is the first thought was the one that you said which is uh

Andrew Wilson100% responsibil is on the woman for all these things to be preventable and the second thought is wait a second we're far more likely to be a b and c when you just got done telling these other girls

V (Velvet)that it was 100% preventable which is true um so yes it's 100% preventable and be we have to be like cognizant of the situation at hand which is that men are

V (Velvet)dangerous and that they strike women at crazy rates and that women we are constantly scared of walk through a parking lot men you do not have that Fe let let me just I have to I have to address the whole God you I have I have

Brian Atlasto address this whole thing about that that men engage in DV at higher rates first off first off let me address that actually they found that inter it's intra partner violence uh it's it's when

Brian Atlasit's nonreciprocal domestic violence the rates are actually fairly equalized now I have a question for you how can it possibly be the case if men are these these

Brian Atlaspervasive violent Thugs and bad guys when when we remove the heterosexual component of these

Brian Atlasconversations uh lesbian couples are much more likely to have uh domestic violence incidents than gay men so so if we totally remove gay men don't really

Brian Atlascare they're hetic are you hold on when we remove men from the equation and we look at lesbian relationships the rate of violence in lesbian relationships is higher than in

Brian Atlasheterosexual relationships and among gay men the rate of domestic violence is the lowest among all other kind of relationship Dynamics so how could it possibly be when there's two men in the

V (Velvet)picture that the rate of domestic violence actually knows Dives there's nothing wrong with a man hitting a woman or a man hitting a a woman hitting a man oh answer the

Brian Atlasquestion in in relationship no there's nothing wrong with a man hitting woman no a woman not if there's by circumstance that it'ser um Andrew I know you wanted to go in I mean I I just

Andrew Wilsonyou don't if you don't mind I just have kind of a set of inquiries here yeah um I'll be very brief as brief as I can possibly be I'd appreciate it if um the gal would also be briefed back so we can just get to the actual heart of the

Andrew Wilsonargument so you just got done saying that it's okay for a man to smack a woman did I get that wrong that is what she said okay so then why would you say that when women are victimized if it's

V (Velvet)okay for men to smack them by strangers what what by strangers yeah that's what I'm referring to when women are being afraid of walking in the street it's not by their domestic partner it's by strangers in the street that's who we're

Andrew Wilsonnow if men are more likely to be assaulted than women are out in the street which that's what the data point set up then why is it that women are more afraid to walk down the street than

V (Velvet)men are um because men will men will never experience the fear that women do walking down the street I just cannot answering I cannot believe this is like something that's like like a shock

Mia / Jeff Dyeyou're not even answering my question you're just like you really are going to look at me and tell me that the fear that I'm not afraid of women I'm afraid of other men in society and our society is full of full of dangerous people what what they're trying to you think because I'm not afraid of you that I don't live

Carain your reality I'm afraid of other people okay well women are constantly I get afraid just like you get afraid no not the same wait you can cause a lot you can cause a lot more damage

Carabecause at the end of what you're saying is that these men are not afraid they obviously afraid they both have admitted that theyve had history with mugged or jumped yes they are afraid how going to invalidate their invalidate well if I

Mia / Jeff Dyewas walking on an alley I might be I'm Not Afraid now I hope you're not afraid not cuz I know you're not what are you talking about she's God not a UFC fighter you should have a conversation with let me ask wa wait let me just say

Brian Atlasone thing let me let me let me just say one thing you should have a conversation with Nick about all the the things that I do he's my producer about all the things I do when it comes to the

Andrew Wilsonsecurity of even operating the studio and just any of us could have a gun right now and you like okay well that brings the the best question all yeah

Andrew Wilsonwhy is it when uh Concealed Carry Permits are available to both sexes that men overwhelmingly get them in comparison to women even though women are supposedly so victimized by men wouldn't you think that you would see

Andrew Wilsonthe reverse that if women could have access to the equalizer of force because they're so often assaulted that they would go out of their way to get those why do you think they don't because women are not comfortable around guns

V (Velvet)cuz they're very uh scary loud and difficult to use they don't know how to use similar um statistic is the suicide

Andrew Wilsonstatistic sorry um hold on let me let me let me engage let me you're saying you're saying that they're incompetent yes I know what you were about to say you're saying that

Andrew Wilsonwomen are so incompetent yes that they have an equal an equalization to force and they don't use it because they're incompetent yes I mean this is insane so so then so

Andrew Wilsonthen men you're going to look at me and tell me that women know how to use a gun as much as men do well I'm I'm asking you I'm asking you this kind of logical question the second part of logical question is to ask you well then men if

Andrew Wilsonthey're overwhelmingly get them getting them because they are competent why what is their motivation in getting a gun or walk around with a concealed carry permit men have a really freakish obsession with gun and holding power in

Andrew Wilsontheir pocket oh so it's not because they can defend themselves it's because of course they just want to be be powerful but a lot of men and when the same option is available to women to have the same amount of power they don't because

Brian Atlasthey're incompetent that's your position men love throwing that out in you going I have a gun they do you want to go back to I mean there's so many things that can be said about the whole uh I mean

Andrew Wilsonthe violence thing but I mean it we're if the perpetrator is a male it doesn't well I just want to just just to tie it off real quick Brian only take a

Andrew Wilsonsecond if you were in a threatening situation would you call a number which would send men with guns to protect you she's a cop puncher in the face her

Andrew Wilsonoh yeah she punches cops in the face I would rather not I'd try not to get in that situation yeah but if you were in that situation would you dial a number where men with guns come to protect you they usually exasperate the situation so

V (Velvet)what would you there there's no other option the answer is no you wouldn't there's there it's a very rarely the the other option there's really there's no other option what other option so you would right so you would do that what other option is number my boyfriend yeah

Andrew Wilsonso you would call the number for men with guns to come and protect you because you're so incompetent you couldn't protect yourself essentially with a gun is what you're saying yeah but I don't know how competent the people are going to be arriving or themselves yeah but you would still dial

Andrew Wilsonthe number so that they would come protect you from other men who would be trying to assault you right so men they be the people hang on hang on I'm almost done

Andrew Wilsonmen who may be the perpetrators of assault on women like you're talking about in alleys and things like this they're also the Defenders of women in alleys and things like this as well aren't they that's a good point I lost I

V (Velvet)lost the the train of thought I'm like some brain de can I say that does not surprise me a bit yeah I'm tired it's been like six hours I think that um I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with anyone right now are you going to speak into the mic I'm sorry um

AthenaI'm not disagreeing or agreeing with anyone right now but I think in general it's uh important to keep in mind that in this kind of podcast it's sometimes easy to have an echo chamber where if one person is disagreeing with the rest

Athenaof the people um we all knew what we were getting into you know what I mean wait why you well that's the whole dynamic of the podcast yeah I'm just saying it's it's worth

Athenaacknowledging that sometimes that can happen I'm not saying it is I'm just saying it can happen in a situation like this I'm not really sure what you're talking about but I mean this

Brian Atlaswhole are you saying that men are killed by other men therefore that's not a problem is that your argument basically no men are the problem 1 th% right but

Brian Atlasif we say that men are victimized in these ways and then you just say Yeah by who by other men that's basic you're dismissing male victims of violence it's just I don't know bro

V (Velvet)that's a weird takee no I'm just maintaining that women's fear is different than men yeah but would you would a man be less dead if they were killed by a woman I'm not speaking about that I'm speaking about women's fear of men you're not you're not fearing going

Andrew Wilsonin the parking lot when you go park your car yes I do we're not Afra not St show different the stat show you're not yes

V (Velvet)you C around corner yes we do we do no you're not yes we do no you're not you're you're a crazy

Mia / Jeff Dyeperson that's fine you don't know me you don't know Jeff let's not look at the victims cuz the victims is everyone let's look at the victim victimizers I I think you're seeing it as a male female you're thinking that like because you're

Mia / Jeff Dyea woman you're the only one that has fears I I don't go I bet there's a I bet there's a gang of women that might get me if I turn the no I'm saying I'm afraid of other bad

Mia / Jeff Dyepeople all are afraid yes that's the whole point yes yeah I know right so you agree yeah that we are looking over our shoulder at other people not not we well we should talk about how 80% of

Caracriminals come from single mother households so maybe it's really all women's CU men leave what cuz men leave the household you're formal criminal like what's your family dynamic because you're so

V (Velvet)interested in everybody else's yeah I'm 100% I'm again like I'm open book I am born in Ukraine and I have a family

Brian Atlaslet's go back to Andrew I know you had a train of uh St of questions related not well moving off from the violence thing to the her claim that that all men are

V (Velvet)Pew yeah yeah so what's your proof um this entire conversation you guys are you you're the

Savannahonly one you brought 15-year-olds now and then you would it we did we all said no what's your hang on you're lying it's Logan guys would you what's your proof no okay you're can you tell me hang on

V (Velvet)just real quick just let me finish the exchange please what's your evidence for this uh I'm saying that if I I presented you a scenario that if you had the full

Andrew Wilsonability with no one knowing it's a question sure but I know question is not an argument she knows for a fact the the vast majority it's different men and women are different I'm so sorry to tell

Andrew Wilsonyou girl and I you like you don't know what it's like to be a man you don't well hang on hang on hang on all of you guys just let me finish the exchange with her only take a second what's the

V (Velvet)argument for the proofs that you can provide that all men are pord cuz men are pedophiles you keep you're just that's just a enti Andrew this

V (Velvet)entire conversation have you guys been focusing on fertility and women being innocent and malleable without a history why is that just call yourself say that

Andrew Wilsonyou want to have a fresh meat what does that have to do with anything just say it you like young girls all of you like little girls Andrew yes no no no no listen to you you say that you all like

Andrew Wilsonyoung young girls and little girls so let me ask the question back to you why is it that in the public school system so many women are having sex with underage boys oh

Andrew Wilsonnot like men are raping women and having molesting and molesting girls an epidemic of ofical proportions why is that happening is that because all women are pord

Andrew Wilsonrepeat the question why is there such an epidemic and overwhelming epidemic of women inside of the school system having sex with underage boys sometimes as young as 13 12 years old in order to get

Andrew Wilsontheir rocks off why is it when they're in a position of power and authority over young men they essay them constantly what what is that because all of them are pord that's a really great question

V (Velvet)cuz I'm Al also wondering that with men and and young girls power of authority exactly is what you're saying so my my my question is

Athenaagain is it because all women are PWS or isn't it it's because if if you're in a power of author if you have a place of authority you're going to do it that's what you're saying women do it no that's

Andrew Wilsonnot what I'm saying I'm asking you to answer my question don't reframe my argument just answer to the argument what's your question he's asking her a question I'm pretty sure

Andrew Wilsonright I'm like I'm like what is the reason just answer to the argument is the reason that so much essay happens in schools from female teachers to young boys because all women are P words no

V (Velvet)but men are no okay I'm going to answer so what's your evidence then I just gave you a huge swap of evidence because it is in it is in men DNA to want to

V (Velvet)conquer and dominate and what is easy to conquer and dominate young girls erroneous

V (Velvet)erroneous can I answer what is your evidence for any of this literally every crime committed with a man raping molesting a girl literally the women

Andrew Wilsonthat are sitting there's that radical feminism we she was talking where where's the actual evidence for what you're saying is true of what men of men molesting she thinks all men are all men

Caraare PWS because some men do horrible things what's the all what is it she she literally was the one to tell us that there are more women who are now teaching because of certain gender rules

CaraI believe that was actually you so that is why please make your point quick so there that is why there's a higher epidemic with women doing these things to young boys that is why but you're not even able to repeat that statement so you are literally making no

Brian Atlassense if you use your own knowledge and your own reasoning then you would make sense and this would no longer be a argument I don't know what what what you I don't even I still don't understand what the argument was hold let me ask a couple clar

Brian Atlasclarifying questions so is it genuinely your position that you think that all men all men are pedophiles I think the vast majority yes innately yes biologically yes I think that they were

V (Velvet)granted the opportunity to get away with having sex with a 15-year-old girl with no repercussions they would do it yes what's the evidence for that you don't you have no evidence for this entire conversation has been evid so that's not

Andrew Wilsonan argument argument from incel it's lacious what's the evidence that I can look at right now that proves your point what are you what are you even talk look at I'm talking about evidence

V (Velvet)hold on do you have any or not yeah so let's talk about Jeffrey Epstein's Island perfect example right there that's some that is a bunch of elite men you

V (Velvet)don't see women going over the little boys it's a bunch of men yes you do no you don't down youever sit down it's a bunch of men going to Lolita's island or going on Lolita

Andrew WilsonExpress going to St James and it's men who recruited for Epstein was it a woman who recruited for Epstein yes they worked in tandem her father be helping him do that her father actually knew about them you would know

Andrew Wilsonthat her father was a fed and he's the one who created the whole thing Jeffrey got involved with it later okay so on the Maxwell can you answer to why it was that glain Maxwell was recruiting for

Andrew Wilsonthis pord island if she wasn't a party to it as well they're both working in tandem all right so this is not evident words is

V (Velvet)and you're an idiot who who is who's doing the raping it's not the women would say that the women inside the public do not the it's not the women it's not the women coming to

V (Velvet)why is there so many teachers women are not answer the question why is there so many flying to St James Island why isn't it women going to boys all those women who were recruited

V (Velvet)by another woman blah blah God you're not even answering the question you're like harping on one very specific thing you brought up the specific thing yeah and you keep talking about just Lane

Andrew WilsonMaxwell yeah but but that's because the recruitment agent for the PE who she particip women it's not women evidence that AR driving

Brian Atlasridiculous it's not happening so your position is you think the majority of men are pord said all but logically innately yes from what I could tell you think me here me and Jeff are also PWS

Brian Atlasis that what you're that's basically what you said there are outliers and I hope you are one of them but you just said if if I this Andre do do you have like a Smoking Gun on this because this

Andrew Wilsonis very simple I've already given the Smoking Gun I see more sa coming out of the public school system between femes who power differential between young boys they molest them at massive massive

Andrew Wilsonmonstrous rates it's incredible two you've offered no counter evidence I have that the majority you hang on let me finish you have not offered a single

Andrew Wilsonshred of evidence that the majority of men in society are pord can you offer that evidence without restating the position and saying because of this conversation give me the evidence yeah I

V (Velvet)just told you St James Island Hollywood hello that's not evidence that is how is that there is nothing of a better evidence in St James Island AR that evidence that most how is

Brian Atlasthat evidence tell me how that's not evidence how does that mean most men do bad thing yo y yo so you were trying to make the point

Brian Atlaswhich incredibly bad faith like ask trying to ask us a question to try to because like super bad faith you've been bad faith this entire show you're I

Brian Atlashonestly I think you're intentionally trolling now you like chilled out for a little bit but now you're back to troll I I don't even think it's trolling I just actually think you're a misandrist and you hate men frankly because holding the position that most

Brian Atlasor all men are pedophiles is an incredibly sexist statement to make it's incredibly misandrist you're pathologizing first off you you're attempting to pathologize men who have a

Brian Atlaspreference for younger women key word women fresh meat malleable all right get off the show get the get the off the show

Savannahleave is watch get off the show thank God out you go so much out you go thank God oh

Mia / Jeff Dyemy God unbelievable ridiculous um I just bro also one of the comments said that cuz we like fertility cute this argument was small yeah I meant smaller than me I

Mia / Jeff Dyedon't want a gal that's 6'4 is what I was in an Tana Bay I think it's kind of cute when a woman's not 6'4 220 and thank you for doing that she was terrible wow too much wait Mia can you

Brian Atlasdo you want to just sit over there in her seat uh you might want to wipe it you may want to wipe it down with some sort of seriously antiseptic what can you Sage that chair yeah like no I

Kikireally want to Sage myselft the cion very unusual Jesus Christ like boiling I was like girl are instantly it's just the whole room is

Carajust like I'm just going to say like I think it's really interesting that she was putting so many words into everybody else's mouths I don't think it was fair or reasonable at all the way that she was behaving and putting everybody else down and trying to paint a picture that

Carawasn't even existent had you said anything about dating XYZ or had any of us said anything at all then that was a reason to attack us and to go forward on that but she did just completely Attack Just for no reason it would also be

Mia / Jeff Dyegreat if she was a little consistent but just to be all over like you can't even say that she doubled down on like what she thought it's just like all over the place like at one point saying leave the 19-year-old and she's only 19 and

Athenathen the next point be like she's 19 she's a like what's going on she was when I wasn't in the room I couldn't hear everything that was happening but like someone someone commented too they were like she's infantilizing her and then the same breath doing the opposite

Carawhat what had happened was like You Walked Out She chased after you trying to be a nice guy whatever it may be and I said it she's 19 I didn't say it to put you down by any means we talking about the situation that happened when

Carashe cried when she cried and I only said it because I thought it was such a rhetorical thing to chase after you try to treat you nicely and say that we're using that to our advantages and putting you down because you're younger which we

Carawere not doing and even at that it was just like we're repeatedly saying she's 19 which was obviously her issue she had an issue that your age was 19 which is not fair and it's just only one who ever

Brian Atlasbrought it's you know what's crazy to me though is when men are basically not allowed to have any preferences standards and boundaries when it comes to what they

Brian Atlaswant in a partner if a girl wants an older guy that's a preference guy wants younger creepy immature maybe even if you want a younger woman even if you

Brian Atlaswant to date a younger adult woman right they're they want to call you a a p word a a pedo which is crazy uh girl doesn't want a short guy guy preference guy doesn't want a overweight girl shallow

Brian Atlasgirl wants a dominant guy preference girl guy wants a submissive woman misogyny Girl sets a boundary empowering guy sets a boundary controlling yeah it's just like but but

Brian Atlasthe it's the degree that she took it to was like pathologizing she basically called us I don't know if she was talking about you but she pretty much sat there and called

Mia / Jeff Dyeshe definitely called yeah she did she aedo she said and she said because we were like um no we wouldn't do that and she's like you're lying you both would but even though she also said that she wouldn't do that yeah like then she said

Brian Atlasyou can hit women she was all of I know she was a psycho but what's weird was she started off with that energy and I checked her and then she kind of got in check and then like I don't know if

Carathe meds were wearing off or whatever but it started amping up again at the end there so like what the I think what was interesting was just like seeing how she immediately was like Andrew I love you Andrew and then

Caraimmediately like for a long time it stayed there Andrew's not in the room very easy for her to do and from there went to Andrew you'd XYZ and that's just like what the like stay consistent or just don't speak at all

Athenashe like if I get the guy that's not in the room on my side I think you actually kind of agreed with her though on some things a little bit I think that she was

Athenaphrasing things in a way to purposely sound insane um but I think the root of some of her some of her very few but some of her opinions were rooted in

Athenasomething that I believe into but I do the things that she said the generalization she made all of that I think was wrong and I mean I said what I said and I want you to listen to what I said and that's my opinion I don't want you to hear her and hear me build on to

Mia / Jeff Dyesomething she said and think that's me yeah I will like so just speaking back to the subject that she left on just like another thing like as a guy like to date age appropriate women like women generally my age is kind of my

Mia / Jeff Dyewheelhouse however that's tough because they're not a lot of available women my age and if they are they've got children and that makes their little things more complicated cuz it'd be unrealistic for me to think I could get a 40-year-old

Mia / Jeff Dyewoman that doesn't have past relationships and have so like I you would tend to date a little younger because the younger chicks don't have something started yet they don't have a family they don't have a you know so

Mia / Jeff Dyeit's like the the young girls are available like you want to start a family with someone and have it your own family yeah and yeah or like I've met girls that I really this is not good to sounded good but they're like they're they're I like I would date this woman

Mia / Jeff Dyeand she's married yeah and I'm like well I can't but that's a great G I want a woman like that but I just can't cuz she's got a guy free Peter in the chat

Mia / Jeff Dyefre I don't believe anything she said dude I don't I bet she doesn't have a boyfriend I bet she'd be pretty annoyed if someone slapped her in a relationship oh we got D Jackson donated

TTS/Donations$200 I take back what I said El autistic sociopath pedo means attraction to prepubescent children the LA a lots for years post puberty just to play it safe

Savannahfight nobody looks at the 19 years old plus sees a child right yeah but also like the law was put there for a reason m in different countries have different

Brian Atlaslaws of course fine bro that's crazy dude did she ever Define the word no there there's another issue you guys

Brian Atlaswant to answer any questions Andrew just kind of avoided questions Andrew what do you know what like is there a specific fallacy when it's like you're asking

Brian Atlassomebody a question and then regardless of their answer you just assume they're either lying about their answer to the question or you just pre- assume what

Brian Atlastheir answer to the question is is what is that like a does that have a name because she did that multiple times she's like narcissist she's like no you met like when we said no we've been assaulted like we we are cautious when

Andrew Wilsonwe're going out at it's a it's just a basic straw man fallacy so what she did was she would say here's what your argument actually is and then argue against that so what what I was trying

Andrew Wilsonto do is get as much clarification as I could nail down the actual argument and when I make arguments they're actual arguments what she made was kind of um

Andrew Wilsonthese fallacious claims and then she actually never made any counter arguments if you listen closely she would just restate the position as the position itself being bad right that's

Brian Atlasall she did so there was no there was no argument to even be fallacious for the most part because she never made any right got it here let me do a couple chats and if we want we can continue on with uh this Dr Clockwork you're talking

Brian Atlasabout sex work fiveish years ago like it was a long time ago that's nothing you said you had two experiences as a sorker in our talking like you're a hard Season Pro you know nothing uh Sor I think is

Mia / Jeff Dyethis directed at the I'm sorry dude I had to kick her off this was this was back in 2019 back in like well also the fact

Carathat she was saying in 2019 that sex work was more like AC noral so false it was completely opposite a different time ladies in addition to that only fans actually started in 2016 so she was like

Savannahit didn't exist all those stuff like you didn't have to be a prostitute not not that that's wrong but and also the fact that she was saying that she was on all these drugs and saying that like she was on those and then started sex work like you basically were a drug addict and

Caraneeded money for the drugs so you pretty easy to tell I was going to say as well like she was pointing out like my family Dynamics are most commonly for sex workers and it was like well you willingly chose your Dynamic to involve

Mia / Jeff Dyeyourself into sex work I didn't if that was my case I did not so you know what's crazy this might sound a mean but she's a very attractive girl you know so it's like uh oh well so I would say that

Mia / Jeff Dyeshe's pretty you know like to the everyday person like she's a pretty person or pretty looking girl but here's the thing is like she sounded like a crazy homeless guy but like but we

Brian Atlaslisten to it because she was a pretty attractive first off I don't think she's I frankly and granted perhaps her

Brian Atlaspersonality ised affects it a lot but like just her outward appearance there's

Mia / Jeff Dyelike I don't know there's some physiy going on there like just I me has like this I didn't like her she's not the ugliest person I've ever SE that's what I meant no I'm not saying she's ugly but

Mia / Jeff Dyelike why is god making hot crazy people it's so unfair I'm like listen like I would listen to her at a store and be like I don't know she think she's pretty pissed off about something but if she was just like wearing like a crazy hat and had like a beard I'd be like get

Brian Atlasthis person out of our business samp like Behavior going again bro truthfully dude I don't think you don't think so even I hate that she was attractive no

Brian Atlasbro she was not she was she's not ugly but she's not think I don't think she's an attractive girl okay she's socially repulsive and stupid and have you heard

Athenaof that scale where it's like St and then there's like a line and you can't be under that line yeah she's under the line yeah all right fair enough I'm saying there's a guy like Peter that's listening to that just

Brian Atlasof I'm going to get some of these chats here tell back all right antenna boy and then T boy here sides with the girl the funniest part is that she is right if all you looking for is fertility cuteness argumentative small your guess

Brian Atlasat that one multile malleable Etc just sounds like you want a 12-year-old that's that's a totally is that a straw man it's totally fous because you could like if you want a woman who's a virgin

Brian Atlasthere are plenty of women who are adults women adult who are 18 19 20 21 there's women into their mid late 20s even early 30s that are virgins so just because you

Brian Atlaswant a woman who's a virgin does not mean like so you could desire all like you could desire all these traits in a w in a woman that that's not evidence of

Andrew Wilsonyou having these PW Tendencies Andrew do you have anything on the Super Chat yeah well it's a non Secor anyway so the the non Secor which is here the this this is

Andrew Wilsonan argument which means nothing is he States at the end that his conclusion is the question right if you value these things then it must mean x no that's of course not true you still value high

Andrew Wilsonfertility and has nothing to do with prepubescent kids has nothing to do with any of that just has to do with the fact that of course men are going to Value fertility in women none of these things lead to the conclusion that he's saying

Brian Atlasbut he still States it as though the conclusion must be true based on madeup premises it's ridiculous well put well put Andrew we're I'm glad I had you here for this episod because oh my God that's it's

Brian Atlasbeen a doozy yeah I'd have got away with tons of stuff if Andrew wasn't here okay we have infinite Singularity one God's Essence entails infinite attributes humans finite beings cannot

Brian Atlasembody Infinity two asserting I am God implies a finite being is infinite three the self-contradictory claim violates the principle of non-contradiction all

Andrew Wilsonright that's above my pay GD I so so if you don't mind I'll respond to that sure quick uh he's absolutely right so when especially when he says it violates the law of non-contradiction be a contradiction for her to say I am God

Andrew Wilsonwhile at the same time of course she's not God this is demonstratable that she's not God because if she was God then she would have to have created

Andrew Wilsoneverything etc etc so it's already a violation of one of the logical laws which is how you can you don't even need to say it's palacious you can just reject the entire thing on its face but

Andrew Wilsonalso makes these other points which is that you're trying to say that a finite being can be an infinite being which she clearly is a finite being so can't be infinite therefore can't be God it's just contradiction after contradiction

Athenathere are religions that think that you can be as a finite being infinite let's not which one not like Buddhism well no that's not really what

Andrew WilsonBuddhism says it's not uh so Buddhism is trying to move towards a a what we would call in Orthodoxy something called theosis which which is you could be more like whatever this type of being is but

Athenano it's not really stating what you're saying it's stating well I mean there's a certain level of connected Conn connectedness to the like world that you have when you're like that which kind of

Andrew Wilsonimplies Infinity but not in the way I think that comment was saying yeah so it would say you're a part of the infinite not the infinite itself that's what that's what we would agree with is God

Brian Atlasis the infinite right you're not part of the infinite you would be the infinite yes we have daium here Jess she was Jeff she was the least attractive person on the panel for sure she was not hot I

Caracertainly agree with that she was the least even the pink girl I don't know I was like nobody made any commentaries at least on the girls said we were being a lot Kinder

Mia / Jeff Dyeyeah this other was psycho and ugly yeah personality that sucks ug going to I see a lot of ug girls than her I'm not trying to S but that's but like I was

Mia / Jeff Dyejust I meant like gosh damn it why is this why is why is God crazy the crazy person should look crazy she should have came in with a in her jeans and we' have been like don't talk to this one

Mia / Jeff Dyeshe's insane that was a crazy person we just argued with for hours I do actually think that's what I was trying to say I know she's an actual crazy person that's what I'm saying but she's somewhat she's a they let her

Mia / Jeff Dyeoperate a car they like she knows how to like put on clothes that's the only point I was trying to make by saying she's not ugly is that like the fact that we have to deal I wish murderers look like murderers and I wish crazy people look like crazy people I wish bad

Carapeople look like you know it's like I had to deal with this psycho and I was giving her good faith for the first hour and then after a while I was like this conversation I had with her prior was outside and you heard a little bit of it but she she was

Caradecently Pleasant she was just adding a lot of weird feeling on my side I just emotionally just felt like okay this is a little different she was degrading you she was degrading the h outside outside oh no no not outside she was intentionally trying to get information

Carafrom me so I was just filtering I heard you guys whole conversation but what she was saying was like I've always wanted to be in Los Angeles I've always wanted to be here I have eight eight days here but she would said that downstairs she because I'm a failed actress to get like the laugh like a little self-deprecate yeah so I think what she was

Caraintentionally doing was just like she really wants the attention she obviously has a Social account God only knows how much in terms of following her anything of that sort but it just seems so like she was deprived of everything she

Brian Atlasneeded to know yeah that was a lot foro it was on one hand I wish I was I W

Caralike there was early on in the show I was about to kick her kind of wish kind of I'm scared she like do something a chance I'm glad you didn't I'm glad you

TTS/Donationsdidn't kick her because that kind of Madness on display is no I agree like she uh like the what's the hold on it's uh you see how how far the termites have

Brian Atlasspread and how long and well they've dined I mean it was obviously infuriating and I know she was very insulting to some of the other girls here she was it was very frustrating to have her on the show but like the best

Brian Atlasdisinfectant is sunlight and like for her to like she was trying to there was a period there in the middle Andrew where I think it I don't know if she's bipolar or something but she kind of

Brian Atlaslike started shifting a bit and was like trying to be more agreeable and then but immediately like just went completely unhinged and uh while she was trying to take every

Andrew Wilsonend of the position that she possibly could whatever she thought would put her in the most favorable light with whoever was on The Winning Side of the position that was the game when we were able to move her out of that where she had to be

Mia / Jeff Dyeon the losing side of the position she freaked out and that's where she started yelling well she loved the attention so like even when everyone's dunking on her going can you imagine being her boyfriend Peter like she was maniacally

Mia / Jeff Dyelaughing like look at how people are talking about me like it was a strange reaction to to that like it was felt very manic hker you did at the end there

Athenaum I said something and then uh one of them was like oh I'm asking her a question which is cool and then she tried to say something you were like let them do this so it seemed like you

Caraalmost wanted it to be like this like her show for a second no I it was when I was answering something and just like let her do it and I I know but it was just cuz she was already showing her psych psychosis well he was going to ask

Brian AtlasAndre was going to ask a series of question no honestly the truth is I as soon as she as soon as she said um as soon as she basically made the statement

Brian Atlasthat me and Jeff and that all men or most men must be PWS I was prepared to kick her but I like I was going to kick her right then and there but I know Andrew wanted to have it back and forth

Brian Atlasso I was like it wasn't so much I didn't want to hear from you I was like I want to get this girl off the show I'll let Andrew have his back and forth

Brian Atlasbut like okay um how do you kick people off was it did I I didn't really kick pink off no she kicked she kind of wanted to leave she wanted to leave

Caraanyways but uh it doesn't happen too often I'm I'm I think I'm fairly patient with people way too I thought you so patient I'm really surprised you didn't even tell her to shut up or anything

Brian Atlaswait what you didn't even tell her to shut up I raised my voice with her a little to be able to talk over her but all right we did it tonight though thank God for Andrew Wilson guys you got

Brian Atlasto subscribe to his Channel The Crucible he's he helped out a lot with that just dealing with the that total insanity guys um this would real conversation yeah I mean I'd love to I

Brian Atlasthink we we have some more I have some more notes here from from uh I want to ask like a light-hearted question here hold on let me let me try the lien thing I got Andrew I think you'll appreciate

Brian Atlasthis one hold on all right wait

Brian Atlashold okay what let's say you're like talking to a dude right I don't know why I said Andrew would appreciate this maybe Jeff will appreciate it too um let's say you're talking to a guy he's

Brian Atlasflirting with you maybe approached you at Trader Joe's or at a bar or something I don't know he's like hey can I get your number you're like yeah yeah sure you want to take it down and he's like

Athenayeah and then he like busts out a flip phone like this I'd be so impressed would like hot like hot turn on or like is it a deal breaker like even if they

Athenawere like not cute like I would give him a chance at least like that's hot that's attractive like this and he's like why is it attractive I just I look with them it's it's like you're a real person like

Brian Atlasyou don't have an addiction that everyone else has but like what what willpower what's the thing with girls like they don't like guys who have Androids I don't agree with that okay I don't know I don't know okay I think

Carathat's hot like sexy I would say I think I'd find it attractive solely because typically with a flip phone you can't text not so so much and not so

Caraeffectively there's no typical TTS so I think it'd be more fun to actually have a conversation with somebody or be in a they're like a real life relationship because then you can have phone calls and all that stuff you can actually organize dates like that what about you

Brian Atlaswhat you I don't know I'll be a little sus little sus I'll be a little sus not Li hon thank you she's consistent I appreciate the honesty let me up the

Brian Atlasantee here what if he's got one of these uh a this is a mola dinac

Brian Atlas9000x I think he either hilarious or a crazy person so ladies both are good I would be intrigued I would want to know more too weird is that does it move though can you take

Athenait outside of your house I would want to know why yeah it's a cell phone it's a cell phone why have a wi the first cell phone I don't know you think you got charge it in your car or what I would just want to know why I would think it was a bit Yeah that's the thing you'd be

Mia / Jeff Dyefunny guy okay so I would yeah all right do you think then andw what's Andrew's background is he like a scientist or something he won the Nobel priz I'm a

Mia / Jeff Dyemechanical engineer that's cool oh really yeah okay so the um I was going to say like I find the traits I like in women are the things I hate most about myself actually

Mia / Jeff Dyeno that's not true I find the traits that I hate in other people not just women the things I hate about myself most so like a lot of my guy friends dressed terrible they're like out of shape I'm like I like the lack of vanity

Mia / Jeff Dyein this person because I'm I I have a pretty high amount of vanity so it's like I think what they were just going isn't that great that he's got a flip phone I think that's so good maybe because cuz you hate that you're always

Mia / Jeff Dyeon your stupid smartphone and you're always checking your Instagram when he can't check his Instagram on this you go good I like a guy who can't do is that a fair yeah I want to flip absolutely I

Brian Atlaswould do it if I could I'm addicted though you can this is super cheap I like can't quit my addiction oh I I want to get into uh some of Mia's pre-show notes Here Maya Mia call me whatever

Carayou'd like can't laugh been MIA like 10 times I like that Mommy Mommy me is actually one of the names I got the most okay there you go um before I get into your notes question

Brian Atlasfor the for all the girls here uh how tall are you and do you guys have a high preference when it comes to dating are we going around in a circle I don't think I did that yeah starting with you

Savannahyeah um I'm 5'8 and I prefer I've dated people shorter than me but just because of like how tall I am I prefer someone to like be either my height or a little bit taller do you have like a bare

Savannahminimum like 6 feet or anything like that what like of how tall they should be um I'd say like your height I mean I've dated shorter so I would say like

Carathe minimum is like 5'5 oh okay what about you I'm 5'1 and I think be honest I don't I am 51 51 no not about um the next

Carapart I don't have a minimum I think because I'm so small that it's really I can't have a minimum cap I'd say the shortest I is 5'6 and that's fine with me what about a little person that'd be

Mia / Jeff Dyeshorter than you that'd be fine anybody dwares I'm trying I'm trying to date a dwarf like a female I don't know any female dwarf I need I'm trying to date maybe I do I know I only know so many dwarfs cuz I'm a stand-up comedian and

Mia / Jeff Dyethere's like four of them that are all Nick noi Brad Williams like they're all very funny but that's kind of how I found them they're like Comics you know okay um so uh your last boyfriend how

Caratall was he my last boyfriend he was 510 and then right after that was or right before that was 56 that's

Ashleypretty got revealed there 510 okay what about you 56 so I'm 5'4 and the shortest person I've dated was like 5'6 well you're currently in a relationship right yes um how tall is your current

Ashleyboyfriend six foot do you have a high minimum requirement for dudes or no um well 5'6 okay yeah what about you um I'm 5'3 and it just kind of depends on the

Athenasorry it just kind of m53 it depends on the person I feel like um I never really run into situations where I'm like this guy would be cool if he wasn't 5'4 that's never happened to me so I don't really think about it but I guess

Athenaprobably 5'4 bare minimum yeah but I I've dated a lot of short people C okay fair enough that's fair if it's my most recent relationship was 510 but that was

Andrew Wilsonalso no that's not my tall but it's not my shortest okay hey guys um I really appreciate you having me on this evening I got to go to little me here in Michigan thank you so much for having me

Brian Atlasit was nice meeting all of you yes um Andrew before you leave just want to thank you so much for coming on I'm I hope this episode wasn't too much of a headache for you nope it was great uh I

Andrew Wilsonhad a lot of fun and thank you for having me so much and you guys have a great night I'm a little mad that Andrew didn't say hi to me before the show started oh my God I forgot that was that's true I

Brian Atlasdidn't that's that was very very rude very rude of you um guys guys please check out The Crucible on YouTube that's Andrew's Channel he is a blood Sports

Brian Atlasdebater he's and if you want check out the previous podcast we've had him on he's absolutely killer he's uh been great on the previous episodes so if you enjoyed what you heard from Andrew feel free to check out his channel check out

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