PSYCHO Feminist KICKED OUT?! 1 RAGE QUIT?! CRYING?! Andrew Wilson! E-girls! | Dating Talk #126

Date: 2023-12-11

Duration: 7h 21m

Guests

Brian Atlas

SSavannah (DT126)>

AAshley (DT126)>

AAthena (DT126)>

AAndrew Wilson >

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_02Ashley(guest)

SPEAKER_03V (Velvet)(guest)

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Mia / Jeff Dye(guest)

SPEAKER_06Ashley(guest)

SPEAKER_07Cara(guest)

SPEAKER_08Athena(guest)

SPEAKER_09Savannah(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kiki(guest)

SPEAKER_11Athena(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteAthena reveals she accidentally reported a suspected credit card fraudster to hotel security while drunk, causing him to disappear for two months.

“I just go I know he's doing crime to the concierge... and then he just disappeared off the face of the Earth for two months”

ControversyAthena attempts to leave mid-show for first time, citing discomfort and a 'male platonic friend' getting mad.

“I think I just want to go... I don't know I just not feeling it”

ControversyV/Vel confronts Brian about not greeting guests before the show. Brian deflects; Andrew calls her a 'spoiled brat'. Jeff de-escalates.

“I kind of feel disrespected”

OtherAshley (pink shirt/SPEAKER_06) leaves the show after Andrew Wilson calls her a 'skank' on air. Andrew declines to apologize.

“he called me skank... Andrew do you want to apologize... under no circumstances I stand by what I said”

OtherBrian invites Kiki (off-camera co-host) to join the panel mid-show to replace the departed Ashley.

“welcome Kiki you're going to contribute far more to this conversation than that woman”

OtherAthena walks off panel in tears after seeing hostile live chat comments. Returns ~5 minutes later.

“I just need a little break... I've never been in a situation like this before”

QuoteV/Vel discloses she punched two police officers on separate occasions and broke into an ex's apartment with a patio chair, stealing his social security card.

“I got really lucky... I have um no record... punched a cop in the face which is a felony and I got a citation”

QuoteV/Vel discloses history with SeekingArrangements (sugar dating/sex work) while calling herself a traditional woman and radical feminist.

“there is no such thing as going on a date with a guy and thinking you're not going to have to touch them... that is 100% you're paying for sex”

ControversyV/Vel escalates from general feminist claims to asserting the vast majority of men are innately pedophiles. Brian, Jeff, and Andrew push back demanding evidence. Brian prepares to kick her off.

“I think the vast majority yes innately yes biologically yes... if granted the opportunity to get away with having sex with a 15-year-old girl with no repercussions they would do it”

ControversyBrian kicks V/Vel off the show after she claims the vast majority of men are pedophiles by nature.

“get the get the off the show... out you go”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions

Guests introduce names, ages, occupations, and locations. Brian introduces Andrew Wilson as call-in guest. Relationship status round.

Age gaps and dating older men

Athena's relationship with a 29-31yo real estate billionaire at age 18. Debate over whether age gaps are inherently problematic. Billionaire details questioned by Andrew.

Feminist identity / definitions of feminism

Discussion of who identifies as feminist, definitions from first through fourth wave feminism, TERF positions, radical feminism vs. traditionalism. V/Vel's contradictory self-labeling as both radical feminist and traditional woman is central.

Women's legal equality and abortion rights

Whether men and women are legally equal in the US. Athena argues women are disadvantaged; Brian and Andrew counter that men lack bodily autonomy (selective service). Abortion debate briefly touched.

Prison reform and incarceration

Sparked by men's bodily autonomy / military conscription discussion. Athena states she 'doesn't believe in prison'; debate over rehabilitation vs. punishment, private vs. federal prisons.

Greater male variability hypothesis and intelligence

Brian raises the greater male variability hypothesis. Andrew explains it: men show greater variance in intelligence at extremes. Jeff asks for evolutionary explanation.

V/Vel's criminal history and confrontational behavior

V/Vel discloses two arrests for battery on police officers, breaking into ex's apartment with a patio chair, stealing his social security card and passport. Tensions escalate. Brian accuses her of trolling. Andrew calls her 'spoiled brat'.

Sex work, OnlyFans, and sugar daddies

V/Vel discloses sex work past on SeekingArrangements. Cara (Mia) discloses current adult content work. Discussion of OnlyFans typers, parasocial relationships, fraud concerns, whether OnlyFans negatively impacts relationship prospects. Catholic faith vs. sex work reconciliation.

Male oppression vs. female oppression

Wide-ranging debate: military conscription, sentencing disparities, police brutality statistics, wage gap debunking, circumcision at birth. Brian argues male oppression (draft) dwarfs all female grievances combined. Athena concedes some points.

Dating standards: height, first-date payment, traditionalism

Height preferences around the table. Whether men should pay on first dates. Brian's argument that traditional treatment must be earned in the modern dating market.

OnlyFans, typers, and romance scam theory

Brian develops theory that OnlyFans typers constitute legal fraud/false advertising/romance scam. Discussion of parasocial dynamics, men spending large sums expecting emotional connection.

Wage gap debate

Brian debunks wage gap citing hours worked, job type, seniority, education. Compares to male workplace injury/death gap. Cara (Mia) defends her mother's welding career as example.

Transcript

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Carafor your words that you already had previously stated for whatever reason you just said sorry bingo bingo like that's rude as that's like I'm sorry but who the thinks like

Andrew Wilsonthat other than a troll well I don't I don't know like I can't see you guys but some of the points that she made were valid points I'm going to admit I mean she made some valid points

Mia / Jeff Dyethank you Andrew I think you can find statistics for those things yes I agree with the the statistic the statistics I don't agree with the way she's conducting talking talking to her like she's a statistic that's all I was

Caracommenting on she is a person and she has her own life I completely agree and I appreciate that so much because at the end of the day yes statistics does pertain to the number of people and pertain to the percentages of all these

Carathings out of a outcome but at the end of the day this isn't just a statistics game we're not on polls right now we're not on little pie charts you're actually looking at me as a human being you're looking at me as a

Carasoul so why don't you continue on and treat me properly with some sort of remorse and respect because I'm sharing the reasoning for either my circumstances or my family life or my reasons for doing a job or anything of

Carathat sort I haven't laughed or mimicked at you I and I appreciate that you just continue being a that's practically what you are

Mia / Jeff Dyelike an apology is in order not going to get one for me that's fine I think in comedy sometimes people go like oh you're a comic you must have things that are like you must be real

Mia / Jeff Dyeup right you must have a crazy child that want to be a standup comic you know and then we go yes cuz you can confine it with anything right yeah and then like but like you could like do that with bread truck drivers you could

Mia / Jeff Dyebe like you know the bread truck drivers come from divorced homes well those statistics have weight but to just try to go blanketly Bingo she her parents are separated so she must want Bingo

Mia / Jeff DyeBing masturbate for money does it make like I don't think that's a bingo like I don't but it is but it you're not eating the way you think you are I think mean

Brian Atlaslike a psych here's here's my analysis she is sort of reving in her own uh I suppose a reverence you're

Brian Atlasyou're incredibly coarse you're incredibly abrasive and perhaps in intentionally um you're not you haven't just been rude to me it it seems like you've been rude to some of the other

Brian Atlasguests um again it's not clear to me though if you're doing it to troll like why now you're shaking your now she's shaking her head no I'm listening to

Brian Atlassay I thought that was you nodding an agreement person LX work dad W bipolar chick the world doesn't know you okay maybe the

Brian Atlaschat is actually starting to uh you're you're winning them over maybe wait she's winning me over she's winning me over I've been on since St one Andrew

Brian Atlasoh my I thank you let's keep going I think it's for attention good yo Devon Jackson good to see you the out what do you mean for

Brian Atlasattention oh my gosh who has their tits out um here abnc most of the abnc last thing with last thing on your

Brian Atlasnotes Here rude blond is Right ABC yeah okay hi um in your notes to us you said you're you're very traditional you're from Ukraine yeah you're Ukrainian are uh how

Brian Atlaslong have you been in the US God I I came here when I was like 5 years old oh okay so you okay yeah yeah so I grew up in America yeah okay my whole entire family you're czen I became a citizen when I was 15 years old okay you say you

Brian Atlaslike men to take care of everything even if I make more than them which I typically do I do what do you do for work again Tech sales Tech sales okay uh

Brian Atlasyou're traditional I am yeah yet earlier in the conversation and in your notes you said you were a radical feminist so traditional radical feminists don't really go together you you're totally

V (Velvet)right you're totally right I think I think I probably should have clarified more I think I'm radical feminist in a lot of ways like I mentioned earlier I think in terms of like transgenderism I'm very much a radical feminist is what

V (Velvet)they would label me as I love second wave feminism I hate the Third fourth wave fourth wave is debatable that we're in now but yeah I don't like it but uh yeah delicious but I'm not sure if you're like you're that traditional like

Brian Atlasin what way what do you think I'm not for example you're granted you have been invited on to a sort of a dating debate show to debate so but you are very

Brian Atlascombative in your in your demeanor and I again I'm going to give you some uh I forget the exact term um we love the blonde you're going to give me some leeway right that's well yes

Brian Atlasbecause if I've invited someone specifically to debate I anticipate that they're going to be engaged in a debate with me so it's not like no 1,00% but uh

Brian Atlasyou've you did sex work you consider yourself to be a radical feminist which in some degree they spit Nuance but so that's that's where like how do you

Brian Atlasreconcile being a traditional woman with you have a history of sex work yeah was it a I don't want I don't want to put words in your mouth but was it so you

V (Velvet)did prostitution well well that's basically what was yeah the sugar daddy there there is no such thing they sell you a lot at least back then I know only fans now you can spread your without

V (Velvet)touching a man and make $400 a week that's that's what's normal now I'm not claiming that's what you do and God bless but back then with seeking Arrangements yes so if you're going to be on seeking Arrangements there's no

V (Velvet)such thing as going on a date with a guy and thinking that you're not going to have to touch them mother excuse me for you know money you're going to have to do something so yeah so in turn yeah like absolutely that is

V (Velvet)that is 100% you're they are paying for sex you think you're going to get a dinner out of it maybe the first two times but if they want to keep seeing you you're going to have to them that's the reality and that's a really

V (Velvet)shitty reality and it's very hard reality well have you ever the in for money no so then shut the up so what I'm trying to say is right now I am

V (Velvet)I'm I'm a woman who's 25 years old I make I make a lot of money how much you make tell us why don't you tell us how much you make um this year if my deal closes I'll make $260,000 this year if

Brian Atlasyour deal closes how much what if your deal doesn't close I'll make probably 210 okay so despite despite the fact

Brian Atlasthat you're a like a what a 1% earner you still want a guy to do you want men to take care of everything um I think

V (Velvet)uh it you you asked a really good question if you don't mind if I go back to that sure you said a question you go how do you reconcile your past essentially and then being a traditional woman I struggle with that every single day yeah you don't have much grace for

V (Velvet)people that do it now I'll tell you that right literally at all right exactly so how are you someone that that is a woman that has such a past and then is coming into now men will look at me and they

Brian Atlaswill and they'll go like what was your past and I will tell them I'm open book I'm open book now okay pretend you're on the first date with Jeff and Jeff Jeff's like hi I want to know your past I wouldn't say on the first date okay say

Brian Atlaspretend it's the third date and pretend you're on it now and pretend you're not on the podcast that's being Live recorded and this is go go go so role play do you do you have a bullet list

Brian Atlascan you just like give us the bullet list of all the things you would feel the need to disclose to a future partner of like by the way I did like I was

Brian Atlasinvolved in a train I was in a train there was a train I got a train ran on me is that one of the things you might disclose cho

V (Velvet)cho I uh did never did any Choo choing I never did any of that but I think that it is like very important that I think I I I think it is important I don't yeah what did you do I'd like to

V (Velvet)know I don't want to just while we have this nice dinner here here wait let me get the champagne hold Go please a drink is there actually champagne we

V (Velvet)do have champagne wait can we have some a drink would hit so good right you're not 21 sorry I'm not going to we I would love some champagne we can CH n i mean if somebody wants to do a

Brian Atlassomebody in the chat there is a champagne trigger read wait and that would make us have champagne I can't imagine her she'll show her tits or one of them can one of your simps or whatever else I mean they may they may

Savannahdon't say that they they won they they won't you're the only one who said that you had a sex pass so probably why are you coming so much for

Caraher I don't even get it I'm not the beginning you pointed directly at her and you were like someone probably would when I arrived here and she spoke to me she said I'm doing this cuz I want to be famous

Caraso% true she wants to be famous I never T Mia what is she was an actress she didn't succeed unfortunately she's being to I was a failed actress correct my biggest movie is on tuby okay it's wants

Carato be an actress I don't even know what it's called that's fine but I just think it's really interesting that you're coming at me so much because I really coming at you specifically you really are though you really are like it's I think maybe you feel that way but I

Andrew Wilsonthink i' kind of spok on a lot feel that way well let me come come after her just a little bit if you don't mind I was curious because every time you're asked

Andrew Wilsona question this is the gal who was a prostitute um you're asked a question on how you reconcile your Traditional Values with modernity and how you think about things in modernity you just kind

Andrew Wilsonof restate the question and then run away from the question okay so actually answer the question yes can you do you mind re asking and I'll be like completely like at face value with it yeah so how do you how are you able to

Andrew Wilsonhold the viewpoints that you have right now for for what you consider to be traditionalism as the path going forward and something that you value uh even knowing that you were essentially a

Andrew Wilsonprocess itude and you're seem to be against feminism where whereas at the same time you agree that feminism has led to the culture of mity that you don't like and without restating it to

V (Velvet)me can you actually answer to how you reconcile those things yeah 1,00% um whenever I was doing it I was under the guise that this is what feminism is I was taking back the power I was bringing back body and I think

V (Velvet)that's what a lot of only fans models will say Now They're bringing back their own power I am in charge of my own body I make funds off my body no other man does so when I was in it I thought I was

V (Velvet)liberating myself as a woman I thought this is Peak feminism I am doing what I'm going to do and I'm going to get $1,500 for I was completely under that

V (Velvet)delusion and what I hate is that we're still that it's evolved and it is very it's it's it's it torments me I think and that will always I will never be a

Andrew Wilsontrue high value woman I will never yeah but hang on hang on before you move on too much into into the explanation I want to make sure that you actually are hearing the question which is asked I

Andrew Wilsonunderstand that you say that I fell into this trap of feminism and now I reject it but you still don't reject the early feminism which led to that this is the

Andrew Wilsonreconciliation that I never actually hear you make is why would you still be supportive of those earlier waves knowing that the result was you ending up being a prostitute 1,000% and that's something that I I all

V (Velvet)never have the answer to and I don't I don't understand I I agree you guys you guys can all laugh with the first wave was to vote and the second wave is to have jobs the third wave has cost having only fans I'm going to

V (Velvet)have to I'm going to H I don't I don't know what the answer is can I say something go I think what is well wouldn't the answer if you wanted to be consistent be to say listen I have to actually reject those first two waves

Andrew Wilsonknowing that it led to the kind of conditions which led to to me feeling like I was empowered by being a prostitute okay but then that would be saying that women shouldn't vote and I well I didn't say that but let's say

Andrew Wilsonlet's say it was an entailment that that's true that it if if you were to re the first assume hang on just wait one second let's just assume for a second that the entailment of the position of

Andrew Wilsonthere's no more prostitutes but women also couldn't vote would you take

Andrew Wilsonthat you know what I'm I may I may I very much may as the right so then so then maybe you can just say I reject earlier forms of feminism because what

Andrew Wilsonit's led to in modernity is way worse for the outcomes of people than if it had not occurred to begin with right but I am curious that maybe something went wrong along the way you know after okay

Andrew Wilsoncan you point to what that would be besides the fact that it was women's empowerment and isn't that what led to you feeling empowered by being a sex worker he had the sexual the sexual

V (Velvet)Revolution was really really weird for women in the 60s you know that was wave that was wave to right that was wave two

Andrew Wilsonexactly and free sex yeah but that was a direct result of wave 1 where the pushing of the original architects of feminism were pushing for that sexual

Andrew WilsonRevolution that's what they wanted was that sexual Revolution that was key to why they wanted these values in women and then they got that sexual Revolution and you are basically claiming you were a victim of that sexual Revolution by

Andrew Wilsonbuying into the feminist propaganda so why not just say I reject feminism categorically wouldn't that be the most consistent and logical thing you could

V (Velvet)do yes I I I I think I think you're 100% correct I I would agree with that yeah can you say I reject feminism are we using a th% scale or a 100% scale cuz

V (Velvet)you've been using a lot of different numbers 100 and thousand yeah I I I I agree 100,000% 100,000% you reject feminism right I I I think inevitably I think you have a point I think it's so easy to

V (Velvet)kind of look back and and say this was good this was good but then this was bad it's the direct it's it's the direct result of it and and I think you may be on to something I'd like to learn more about the other

Brian Atlaspeople on the show me too let me get a couple chats in then we'll oh did you I think you had something Athena right yeah um I agree with that

Athenaum also that the the comment that was my di I don't know which way to point for that but um as a podcast host I think that if you have that kind of dissonance in you where you had this one lifestyle and then you have

Athenathis lifestyle that you aspired to and they're so vastly different you and you cannot achieve the perfect standard of what you want your lifestyle to be you're going to lash it out and like not feel good about yourself and then you're

V (Velvet)going to put that on people like her true I agree I definitely can see that oh I don't feel I I I don't I don't want ever I don't look at women like you and I look at you and I go oh she's beneath

V (Velvet)me I have none of that in me at all what I feel for woman I generally I generally don't when I look at women like you that are engaged in sex birth I feel sorry why that's cuz they're engaging in sex

Athenawork okay okay you're not acting like you're sorry though like like when I was when I said earlier you should apologize to her and you didn't that's not you don't feel B bad for her you're not sorry I'm not sorry for my opinion no

Caraokay wait so do you you want her to AP olog to and I and I appreciate but I don't need an apology from somebody like that and regardless I I agree I I

Caracompletely I agree I think at the end of the day if she has such a previous or yeah she has such a prevalent past with prostitution or sex work I love how

V (Velvet)we're like really like being like uh sex shaming here like it's a PR it's prostitution you're the with strong opinions about this stuff and it's just

V (Velvet)kind of like are you doing on your only fans like what do you call that you you sexed men for to pay a rent you know what I mean so it's like you keep saying Pro why are you assuming what she's doing though I could be literally

Caradoing just like bikini photos no nudity and like I could be you know you're not we know you're not how do you know that she's not doing how do you know that what are you doing on what are you doing on there I I

V (Velvet)do actually film everything we know but you're talking down on her like you didn't just do that understand like no you guys are call prute which is totally fine

V (Velvet)toally totally fine totally valid totally fine and totally valid but you guys Snicker every time someone says prostitute she go because what's the difference that's so F you're so right

V (Velvet)you had an only fans you're current what did what are you on I've never done anything you've okay she's 19 what are

Andrew Wilsonyou she is 19 what I yeah what do you do what do I do that creep she has an only I've got to ask this is that true that

Andrew Wilsonyou have on your neck a tattoo that says I am God yes wait what what wait where you have a tattoo on your neck that says I am God you can see her neck wait where

Andrew Wilsonoh I back on the back of it on the back of wait how did you find that oh my God my Instagram is well that gives a lot yeah I am I don't believe you at all from Kanye West about anything you've said yeah can you can you show us that

Brian Atlasyou have that tattoo I did I did I can no turn the other way turn turn turn this way and then where's the camera uh turn a little more there we go yeah that's good I it's probably a little hard to see but yeah times for Roman I

Caraam God totally she thinks she's better than everyone is not at all actually narc I would actually she doesn't look down on me but she is God so she is superior yeah period Well if you want me

V (Velvet)to have a moment to explain it it'll I want to explain for sure yeah so uh in terms terms of I am God it's you are the controller of your

V (Velvet)own life and um you are the ruler you are the decider and I think um taking that power back and understanding I'm I'm I'm I I really do love God I believe in God but I think God is very big and

V (Velvet)acknowledging that we are the dictators and and deciders of our own future so I am God I deci okay can I ask you just a single question you think about it right

Andrew Wilsonbut yeah could you tell me give me a single thing that you could ever say that would be more narcissistic than I am God can you give me an example of a single thing not a single

Brian Atlasthing he rest his point I guess I guess you think you're a narcissist probably

V (Velvet)NPD no no no no I know NPD my mother is likely NPD I know but MPD pretty sure it's genetic um uh personalties is are

V (Velvet)cluster cluster be person personalities typically are yeah well okay do you have more Andrew on that or uh yeah so just to just to dive in uh

Andrew Wilsonyou claim that you can't think of a single thing you could ever say which was more narcissistic than I am God would you say that um then kind of an entailment of this you saying that I am the ultimate controller would that be

V (Velvet)the ultimate in narcissism or solipsism uh I I think it could be interpreted that way but I think in terms of your own life we are the ultimate decider we decide our own fate absolutely we are the control yeah but

Andrew Wilsonthat's a different statement I you could say I decide my own fate but you didn't say that you said I am God yeah the creator of all things onen Earth of my

Andrew Wilsonlife of my future that's a much larger claim than I control my own life that's a claim to I am the controller of all things I am controller of all things

V (Velvet)this isn't a reality show this is you you're the controller of all things what yeah of my life I'm I completely decide what happens in my life so you mean all things just you no it's free will we have free life you have control over

Andrew Wilsonjust you or you have control over the universe why would I have control over you you just said that do you think a traditional uh man would see the tattoo on your neck I am God and see it as a massive red flag to get as way away from

V (Velvet)you as fast as they possibly could yeah and then I explain it and I and I've been in that circumstance plenty of times did it work out yeah

Andrew Wilsonbut what wait it worked out where a traditional man was like oh you just have a tattoo that says I am God on your neck that's cool whatever explanation you have I'm fine with that no they ask for the explanation they demand it and I

Andrew Wilsonhave to give it to them and I do which is just that I'm in control of my own life yeah I'm in control of my own destiny they probably don't care that much really they Cas

Andrew Wilsonexactly this and you think that these are traditional men who say that the men that I dat it typically traditional yes I I I I barely date ever what makes them traditional if they if they see a tattoo on your neck that says I am God and then

V (Velvet)they just hear your explanation that well that just means I'm in total control of my life yeah what are the traditional things that you think these men have what makes them traditional uh they're typically Catholic they come from like a long

V (Velvet)lineage of family pedigrees um they're very big on um on traditional roles in terms of men being providers and women is that and how did he come up here

Andrew WilsonCatholic and their providers how did he do that yeah yeah MH Ty yeah so doesn't a Catholic want you to submit to him so you're not in control of your own life anymore that's a good question and I've

V (Velvet)been in that well then don't don't tell me it's a good question just answer can I can I just say it's a good it's a good you ask good questions Andrew come on I know I ask good questions I just want you to answer them though you don't have to restate them I don't know thetime sometimes your questions are too

Andrew Wilsongood I don't know come on yeah but answer it so the question is wouldn't a Catholic traditional catholic want you to submit so that you were not in charge of your own destiny any longer he was in

Andrew Wilsoncharge of his of your destiny and his Destiny which is traditional Catholicism yeah how could you possibly reconcile and try to feed us this line that these are traditional men when I understand

Andrew Wilsonhow Catholicism works and what they believe marriage is and it's not a woman with a tattoo on the back of the neck that says I am God 1,00% this is kind of crazy how it's crazy but also boring cuz

Athenait's the same thing about different issues the whole

Athenatime

Mia / Jeff Dyeliterally ah okay let me let me read a couple it's true that relationship issues have overlap that's true yes it's like I said earlier man like nothing has all these words mean nothing to her you like they're traditional guys like what

Mia / Jeff Dyedoes that mean by traditional well not necessarily I mean she already said I lit just said none of these things are you know like bringing a homeless guy in here and asking him to explain his thoughts it's too hard to follow I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to do a couple chats I'm going to read a couple chats and uh I do think that of all the podcast episodes we've

Brian Atlasdone this one may very well be analyzed for hundreds of years to come by various psychological associations I don't know what kind of

Brian Atlasdeep Dives they're going to do but but um this is she already said she was a narcissist so it's fine Tendencies yeah this is great this could be

Brian Atlaslike I don't know this could like okay anyways all right I don't even know how okay well we have way off base here the blond is venomous the woman who is

Brian Atlascurrently doing sex work is still a damn human being Andrew your replies to the situation BS he without sin cast the first stone ain't that what he said okay

Andrew WilsonAndrew you have a fascination with Andrew I I really do question yes did you want to respond to that Andrew or just you're a Godless can you just can you just

Andrew Wilsonrestate the uh the last part of it oh he just um quoted the Bible yeah he said he is who is without sin cast the first stone sure but he also said go and sin no more so you have to reconcile both

Andrew Wilsonthese things which means yes we're not going to viciously murder people for the things that they do which I'm not an advocate for but we can tell them go and sin no more that's perfectly acceptable and in order to tell them to do that we

Mia / Jeff Dyehave to point out what they're sinning about right yes otherwise how do they know how to not sin anymore right I agree with that and as a man of God like I can sit by someone who does only fans

Mia / Jeff Dyeand respect her as a person while having strong opinions about only fans without not having eye contact and going statistically Bingo you don't have a dad like I can do it in a very uh Christlike

Andrew Wilsonway Andrew have you ever subscribed to an only fans no wait what's a what's a very Christlike way uh like would that be making a whip inside of a temple and whipping people across the face and shoulders is that Christlike to you no

Andrew Wilsonno that's what uh they did to him that's what that's what Christ did Christ didn't whip people what are you talking about yes he did he made a fashion to whip and whip people what are you talking you don't I don't remember that Christ whipping I'm sure you selectively

Andrew Wilsonremember then just explain it to me I don't know why I'm fighting Christianity that doesn't exist explain it to me the too he's a little comedian you there was a moment in a temple where there was

Brian Atlassome whipping and he turned over tables of there there was like table was there CH TI over T was there a table know but he didn't FL TP I think there might have been like a table

Andrew Wilsontip I'm sorry go ahead just show me the Bible verse where Jesus whipped anyone say that I don't hear what you're saying I'm sorry I don't know why you're trying at all yeah it was a conversation between you and Andrew yeah here he made

Andrew Wilsonokay you ready yes he made a whip out of cords and drove them all from the temple courts both sheep and cattle he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned tables yeah chased them out when he made the whip out of the cords what do you think he

Mia / Jeff Dyedid with the he had a whip yes he chased them out of the thing there there he chased them out with a whip sir right yeah with a yeah with a whip right correct it's like I have a gun I don't

Andrew Wilsonshoot people with it time you asked me to give you the Bible verse I I need to concede that what I said was true do that okay okay the way Jesus the way Jesus

Mia / Jeff Dyewas friends with Mary Magdalene while not maybe appreciating her life style of choice might be a more comparable thing than debt collectors in the temple in in the Middle East why why because I'm

Andrew Wilsonchoosing to use an example that works for the situation that I'm talking about choosing what you want to to uphold your simpish worldview I don't have a sish world VI you've been kind of a s this

Mia / Jeff Dyewhole podcast at all what what have I said been a decent human being no one's even asked my opinion on only fans I have strong opinions which I've mentioned few times I don't like what she's doing to try to

Mia / Jeff Dyeget more attention on this podcast by being being aggressive to no I don't I I I am I was respecting everyone that's what a that's what a uh that's what that's how these conversations remain

Andrew Wilsonprog like that are productive in my in my experience you no I didn't well they would be a lot more productive if you weren't very selective in the things that you chose like for inance when I bring this up when I bring up the kind

Andrew Wilsonof Christian value that I'm looking at yes clearly I'm far more informed on this than you are for some reason you still questioned what I said like I didn't know what I was talking but clearly I do and I'm telling you that

Andrew Wilsonthis real good Feelgood version of Christianity that you ascribe to is total nonsense we don't know what ascribe to it's it's what we call head

Mia / Jeff DyeCannon wow okay so here here's here's here is my world VI on that uh is that there's Jesus had many things when people talk about being Christlike they don't refer to the one time he lost his

Andrew Wilsontemper on debt collectors you're being just as selective as I am being to make a point no I'm I'm not being selective I'm telling you both things are true at the same time so it's true that we should be forgiving and it's true even true that we should have compassion but

Andrew Wilsonthat doesn't mean avoiding hand which is objective reality and truth and so we need to point both of these out and understand that the message that we're pointing out is that

Andrew Wilsonyes you are a sinner go and sin no more here's the sin that you're doing but in order to evoke a reaction out of a person so they even recognize what sin they're committing you have to be very blunt and sometimes provocative Jesus

Andrew Wilsonalso did this through the use of Parables that was to be as provocative as he could possibly be for the time frame that he was in you clearly weren't here to see how

Mia / Jeff Dyethese things are going because it's been a very it's been a consensus that the behavior has been a pretty wild and tumultuous and not very Christlike by anyone's selective

Andrew Wilsondefinition Andrew and you don't know my world view on these things I'm not a simp and if you take a browse of me at all you just gave me head Cannon so I do know your worldview your world view is that you don't know the cannon that you're espousing you just I've never

Mia / Jeff Dyeheard of them I've never heard of Jesus whipping anyone and you didn't give me a good Bible verse to say that he whipped anyone just cuz he had a whip to chase debt collectors out of the temple you're being just as SEL from some ropes and

Andrew Wilsonchase them out of the temple with the whip yeah he chased him out he didn't whip people he wasn't flogging people what what did he have the whip for so that people could see startle them out

Mia / Jeff Dyeof the temple for making a mockery of God's house right so do you think he was prepared to use the Whip or is there a difference between owning a gun pointing a Gun and shooting a gun Andrew there's two of those are totally different would

Andrew Wilsonbe if somebody owned a gun and then pointed it at you would you assume that the intent was to not use it yes but I wouldn't say they shot me would I you said he whipped people didn't say listen dude you're you're literally parsing

V (Velvet)words you just said like I he' probably whip people like Jesus would do which is so silly Andrew I think you're being really inappropriate right now because this guy that came in here today is a good guy he's a nice guy you're a good

V (Velvet)guy rights nonjudgmental every joke he says is BS which is like a whiplash you're just here you're a good guy you're funny you're silly you're you're fun

Mia / Jeff Dyeeverything's a great time this is what the episode's been just about her this constantly here here here let me get through these chats let me get through these chats Andrew all right Andrew thinks I'm some woke guy that came in here to meet only

Andrew WilsonF well if you're going to if you're going to talk about rebuking sin then rebuke it okay don't stay on the fence and go what would Jesus do that's very simpish bro no it isn't how is that but

Andrew Wilsonit is because because what he ascribes to is the Buddy Christ version of Christianity which is pure head Cannon it doesn't exist in reality all right he can like what he likes I don't here here's what say to you Andrew uh fair

Mia / Jeff Dyeenough that's that's how you that's how you've summed me up from our brief uh thing that we've done here tonight uh but you don't know me at all if that's what you think and that's fine cuz well how could you know me so it's okay here

Brian Atlaslet's um you guys put away your swords for a second here let me move on from the uh all right we have Dr Clockwork so you've had two sugar daddies that wanted sex basically you just ateed two guys and now regret it because you weren't

Brian Atlashot enough to make as much as much as you'd like BFD you're smart but narcissistic thankk you do you that's it any further response or is that no okay

Brian Atlasthank you Doctor Clockwork appreciate it man we have way off base here uh oh Jesus loves all people and it is not yours to judge judgment and judgment and

V (Velvet)admonishing are different things but he owned a whip Andrew did you did you that is not what you're doing you're still condescending to her you texted the center of the table you said did you

Brian Atlassubmit this just I'm not way off what way off B I don't know it sounded like something you'd say okay here we got a message here from

Brian Atlaspuffy Vegas I going to rate the girls on a scale of one two one row 10 okay dude this no BS all our sevens okay if these are Andrew look at the com s I'm so happy to be a seven I like being

Brian Atlascompared to these pretty people okay that's a very sweet comment we'll go around the table on this what do you rate yourself looks what do you rate your looks on the SC of 1 to 10 starting

Savannahwith you going around the table go ahead am I really raing myself yes just on looks alone just looks just looks seven I'll give it to okay ah I

V (Velvet)don't know I don't really know there it really is it changes every day stop it I'm sorry get some help I'm sorry some days look in the mirror and I go I drink a lot I'm

V (Velvet)bloated I'm a five and other days look in the mirror and do it sh get the off can you just answer the question some days I think I'm a 10 some days I think I'm five some days a

TTS/Donations10 today how do you feel like today Saved By The Butler donated $200 watch your mouth when speaking to Andrew her's infected comedy boy I'll

TTS/Donationsreach through that screen and force feed Valtrex down your filthy mouth until yourself # failed comedian

Mia / Jeff Dye# wow brutal and awesome got be a king I think you find we're on the same team Andrew I don't know if you know me very good go ahead well when when you

Brian Atlaswhen you act like we're on the same team I'm going to definitely get your back man okay okay oh this has been a this has been a fun fun night okay um all right you can't deny that it has been

Brian Atlasfun scale from 1 to 10 go ahead thank you Jay Butler by the way appreciate it I would I probably I I really liked how I looked today I was very confident so today you are a I was nine I really liked how I looked in the mirror today a

Brian Atlasnine I was a little bit I was a little bit bloated but yeah wait why you why you laughing at that she's God God oh no I don't object to you laughing I'm just curious why you're laughing no cuz God

Brian Atlasis a 10 so oh you oh it was to the comment God's like an LA 100 dude yeah yeah what about you a seven seven okay

Athenaum into the mic please sorry I don't really know I guess same thing like worst day like a six best day like a

Athenanine I also have a question actually I forgot it never mind Kiki she thinks she's a 10 for

Mia / Jeff Dyesure e e m what about you I would give myself a seven okay uh think I'm a I think I'm an eight for

Brian Atlasa 40-year-old man yeah handsome guy I'm 6'4 I give I give myself a five used to be a six now I'm a five gotten a little chubby I've gotten a little chubby you

Brian Atlashave a little bit I've been a long I've been a long time watching yeah my face has gotten a little chubbier it happens stress I I stress eat I don't drink me too I don't do drugs I don't smoke I

Brian Atlastend to it's a stressful show desserts and stuff well I cookies that's a good one hamburgers carbs yep that's used to be a six I'm a five I've gotten I have a

Brian Atlasdad B right now I need to I'm working on it Lads so okay there you have it folks does it always go like this what like the whole thing no does it ever what do you mean like this like I I don't know

Brian Atlasit just feels like there's like a lot going on I don't know I haven't watched the podcast no usually there's not there's like usually there's not this

V (Velvet)much uhri usually there's not God in the room either yeah and then she's here today so we're get the Rocks Abdul yeah get the Rocks get the

Andrew WilsonRocks Andrew is it blasphemy for that tattoo she has is that blasphemy oh yes it's the it's literally the epitome of

Andrew Wilsonblasphemy to say I am God is blaspheming the holy spirit it's one of the few things that's an unforgivable sin unforgivable I agree yeah that's that's

Andrew Wilsonthe actual only unforgivable sin is blaspheming the holy spirit yeah a th% be still forever now now still still just so you know there's still a path to Grace here okay I'm just explaining to

Andrew Wilsonyou that that's the worst of the worst of the worst that was literally what Satan did Satan declared he was God

Brian AtlasAmen Good Times all right that's uh let me see if I have any other notes here

Brian Atlasso um oh we got to get some we got is it Maya or Mia it's Mia Mia okay uh let's see you are an only fans model you are

Brian Atlasuh single liberal are you uh did you say you're currently dating multiple partners no no no oh you said something here about multiple partners I said something regarding that I've dated oh in the maybe in the past you've had

Brian Atlasmultiple partners um but not currently no there's no guy in the picture no guy in the picture no I don't

V (Velvet)I no I I truly am not no guy in the picture there's no guy in the picture you said there was when we were on the couch you said for 3 years now no you

V (Velvet)did no really no she's made stuff up before so yeah so I I don't know you were like 3 years but I'm private you like you like quoted someone and it just did not happen and everyone said is

V (Velvet)really just not real so I think it's oh so you didn't say that on the couch okay I'm I you know what I may have Mis Wen you at the couch too and she's like going to say

Caranothing okay um yeah so I'm single I'm not seeing anybody I have chosen to kind of keep it this way for the past I want to say sixish months but yeah I don't know what the truth is what

Brian Atlasthe truth isn't what I will say to the chat and not to try to again I don't know what the actual truth is here what I will say is that many times on the show whether they do only fans whether they don't although it happens to be the

Brian Atlascase that it's more likely if they're female content creators or they do o or something it's very often the case that women are not going to reveal if they're

Brian Atlasin a relationship publicly because that has an a negative impact on their bottom line when it comes to be whether even if they don't do any kind of only fans or sex work it's going to hurt their bottom

Brian Atlasline even if they're like just a twitch streamer no nudity content creator YouTuber because there is this sort of component of if a lot of Their audience is mail they there's this like weird

Brian Atlasparasocial thing where the men will be more engaged with their content if they think they have a chance with this girl who's single but obviously if the girl has a boyfriend it kind of like most

Brian Atlasguys are going to be like tap out on that like so uh and especially the case for only fans girls like if a it 100% hurts a girl's bottom line if she reveals she's in a relationship so we've

Brian Atlashad I don't know the truth of your situation but we've had multiple girls come on the show whether they're only fans girls content creators who will come on the show say they're single and

Brian Atlasthen we saw their boyfriend drop them off hug kiss da da da they tell us after the show oh yeah I'm dating I've been I have a long-term boyfriend for two years so gentlemen just not directed at her

V (Velvet)but any content any female content creator you should like take a with a grain of salt if they say they're single because these it is kind of weird that you just said that um because it's

V (Velvet)exactly what you told me on the couch why you keep bringing up what happened on the couch no no I'm just saying that was it was almost like you were were you there no but like this that's just

Savannahlike super weird you keep trying to attack her saying that she thing her who I don't know the trth you keep saying that she kept saying stuff on the couch like she's not talking for herself right now oh I can't speak for myself

Caraobviously you're not going to speak should use your hands and covered your mouth again just cuz clearly you should be stressed and scared the truth that was a great era when she was like that was so good should but as you were

Mia / Jeff Dyesaying I was say like maybe maybe people aren't dating people but I would love to ask women just in general how cuz men are more physical than females typically how many men are you just leading on in

Mia / Jeff Dyeyour phone for attention like how many guys can you just text right now like and be like what's up like that guy thinks he kind of has a shot or he think you know he's like oh I flirt with this one girl she

Mia / Jeff Dyeworks what like if I that's why everyone's so nervous when they hand each other their phones or like they'll be like oh I don't want my my boyfriend of 20 years or husband they go don't look at my phone it's an evasion of my privacy it's like well what's really in

Mia / Jeff Dyethere what's really going here why don't we start with uh with you that be more interesting and we'll go around we'll go around the table this way question how many people do you get attention from in your phone that are men past things or

Carawell obviously with only fans I get a lot of attention but in reality I actually don't interv or I don't really interact with many men in my actual life so unless it's work rated stream related I'm not really engaging with any relationships in that realm so I don't

Carareally have any conversations with men I don't really I obviously do with the people that I'm working with collectively so any of my editors and all that but I don't really allow any flirtations between my actual life and that's just because my own decisions and

CaraI really am focused on my job and I really am focused on my life I have three pets at home that I take care of full-time that's something that I take care of and I don't really just entertain any other person right now weird yeah that's just my own take

Carathat's more recent cuz I love attention I get that was like a big thing that I went through for a long time yeah yes really I think if I can't say like moving to LA from Orange County you guys

Caradidn't know that I just I don't oh really see okay but I just I haven't found anybody in Los Angeles that I'm like okay I'm going to devote my time to you and give you any of that if anything I'm trying to find friendships and I'm

Caratrying to find my actual Realms that I want to remain in such a soul cycle or anything fun that I enjoy as opposed to let's take a bunch of people

Athenaum not anymore but I have but when I did it wasn't like one guy for like months and then he's just miserable it's it'll be like I'm going to have a fun night tonight and download Tinder and just

Athenatalk to like 10 people and then just never talk to them again which is super and I don't do it anymore but I've done that before yeah like when I was in my

Mia / Jeff Dyeyounger years I so it would be like maybe like 50 to 100 yeah yeah throw in a thir yeah but it's right2 and you think to yourself like I'm not sleeping with them it's not like I'm hanging out

Mia / Jeff Dyewith them we're just talking it's just attention and look it's fun to flirt right yeah 50 to 100 dudes you're talking to well I back then back

Ashleythen what do you mean back then well when I was administ 20 23 26 you have the time well I mean they'll like throw an emoji and

Ashleyyou just like respond with them emojis back like you know like hey which emojis like the heart thank you like uh like just interaction yeah it's like you're right there and like oh my gosh she

Brian Atlasmessaged back type of thing good times what about you actively n none also same actively none those of you I feel like those of

Brian Atlasyou who okay those of you who said you're single when's the last time you spent time oneon-one with a guy who is romantically interested in you and you're

Savannahromantically interested in him AKA had p and the V sex with Okay good question is it starting with me I guess yeah wait what was the qu what what's your exact question when is

Brian Atlasthe last sorry I've got to be blunt with it uh when is the last time you've had sexual intercourse with a male like a month

Brian Atlasago okay yeah I'm not single oh you have a I have a boyfriend

Brian Atlasit's hard for me I know to process that but okay there's a man everyone you have a boyfriend wait how long has he been your boyfriend not long what's his name he just got I won't say I won't say I won't say fake name give us a fake name

Brian Atlasum Peter um yo we need to I need graveyard emojis school Emojis in the chat for Peter um like uh Rip's in the chat for Peter bro Rip's in the chat for

Andrew WilsonPeter having one right now wait Peter Peter's having a what Peter Peter's having a rough time right now we got the skull emojis we got the the graveyard in chat it's pretty bad for spam it boys

Brian Atlasgraveyard emojis skull emojis RFS in the chat Black Santa for Peter too black Santa yeah

Brian Atlasno love you love you was too late on the button never mind um okay uming the

Brian Atlasblond oh for wait hold on what was I I had something else that I wanted to oh hold on oh yeah guys go to twitch.tv whatever we got more questions for Mia

Brian AtlasMaya Mia I there it's fine well which one I go by Mia but a lot call me Maya she said Mia like five times fine it's I'm challenged okay guys twitch.tv/

Brian Atlaswhatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub oh my God the twitch is on fire 1,400 viewers holy Mo oh my God this is

Brian Atlaslike free Peter this peak this is oh my God this is uh Peak free Peter until it's backwards twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub thank you guys so much for all the Primes this

Brian Atlasis this is Peak viewership I think on Twitch ever so yo free Peter on Twitch chat free Peter # free Peter can you pull that up deserves a # free Peter #

Brian Atlasreper bro this guy is must locked up in some dungeon somewhere in Boston like this is some can we play what's that song from The

Brian AtlasDeparted what's that song anybody in the chat what's that song No it's like the bro this poor guy in Boston does he have a Bostonian accent he's he's literally

Brian Atlasthis is like Stockholm syndrome with this girl he's must be like Jesus Christ he must be debating he's been dating you for 2 weeks he's already considering like deleting himself that is the extent of his relationship with

Brian Atlasyou what's that song by the the from in The Departed Nick can you what's the what's the what's the song from The Departed shipping up to Boston is that the song by the what Long Live

AthenaPeter Long Live Peter next one Bender the offender did we do the Bender the offender absolutely crazy girl sex that's why he's doing it's never worth no no no no no no there's it's not worth

V (Velvet)it TR find that out uh yeah that that is that's a very good point don't ain't no good enough for I wish he I hope he's watching free

Brian AtlasPeter yo free Peter in the chat Peter Griffin # free Peter in the chat delete did you get the Griffin can we delete him please delete him oh okay

Brian Atlasum all right okay all right um we got twitch here let me get you can hide that I got to pull up Theon now I must say I do love the debates and religious talk but I do want to know to the women in the red what is

Ashleyyour opin opinion on the current dating World also love the podcast hey thank you man the oh the alien excuse me thank you man appreciate it go ahead it's definitely hard I mean I feel like everyone is um going into relationship

Ashleyit's like what is uh in it for me type of thing and then we're just shying away from actually like being a couple and it's more of like a give and take type

Mia / Jeff Dyeof thing word it's true it's true you know what I think you're laughing because you know it's true no I think she's enjoying just that everything's about her so even if it's a negative thing about she's

Mia / Jeff Dyegetting so much delight out of it it's the narcissis that's a fair point that's a very good assessment it's like I don't even care if you say bad things about me as long as it's about me so yeah 1,00% yeah how does actually wait no you're

Brian Atlasnot a refugee from Ukraine so I was about to for something reason go into the whole Ukraine thing oh no no no uh my my entire family is my entire family is I say not a refugee I mean a refugee

V (Velvet)of the current uh ongoing conflict in Ukraine no so I'm the only one in my entire family on both sides that's in America besides my mother so all my

V (Velvet)family is still in Ukraine my but bul Masha bu dulia like they're all like still in there because they don't give a they're like if we get bombed we get bombed and the rest are in Ireland

Brian Atlasand Montreal Canada as even the men or just the women the the men and the women yeah none of them are in fighting in the war or anything well you said the rest

V (Velvet)of them are in Ireland and Ireland yeah arand and Montreal Canada those are the two biggest Refugee no just all my family like my uh Mother's and Father's

V (Velvet)Side pretty sure men aren't able to leave Ukraine my father did my father did maybe he got out somehow I don't know anyway I'm not trying to get into the he he is very black market

Brian Atlasbut no he's in Montreal right now his family okay all right uh let's talk about let's go around the table what's uh it normally I do like a little prompt before this but let's just ask

Brian Atlaswhat's everybody's body count starting with you go go ahead I don't count that I think it's immature oh so well okay fine I will do a prompt uh do you object to men caring about a woman's body count

Savannahdo you think it's immature you do object I object with everyone thinking that a body count is necessary do you think body count doesn't what do you mean necessary I just think it's immature okay uh we'll come back to that but

V (Velvet)let's go around the table get everybody's answer what about you do you object to men caring about a woman's body count no they should they

Ashleyabsolutely should care about a woman's body count okay all right okay what about you say yes it does

Athenamatter and mineus 12 oh okay there you go 12 okay uh I won't answer the number part but I think that where like I don't think it matter it does matter in a way

Athenawhere it's like because it matters to other people it matters to me you know but I don't personally think there's anything wrong either way but there I know there are statistics that show um like people have

Athenadifferent um ability to be in long-term relationships and that's correlated to their body count and that's true you know but that's also a statistic and it's not a person

CaraKiki okay um my body count is 10 and in addition to that I don't necessarily think it's the most important thing to like regard and everything but I do think having an open conversation once

Mia / Jeff Dyein a while is fine especially in a real relationship as opposed to a hookup sure okay I get why people care do you not care like do I would like to say like oh it's immature I

Mia / Jeff Dyedon't think it's necessary but my real if I'm just honest with myself like I just don't want to know cuz yeah cuz I will judge it if I know it so I would never ask a girl I'm dating of it I just I just clearly do not want to know but

Mia / Jeff Dyewouldn't you rather take the red pill and know the truth because it's like that's that's but that's where jealous knowing can be Troublesome you know because people do change and people are give me the truth

Mia / Jeff DyeI think give me the truth I know well for most things I do most things I want the truth I need the truth I'm a big truth guy I think for body counts because because one I've been very reckless in my young life with it and I spent a lot of my life being an

Mia / Jeff Dyealcoholic so my body count is very high that I'm not proud of in hindsight and then also the uh the people I know that I might hypocritically put my judgments

Mia / Jeff Dyeon the girl so I just can't hear it I can't hear it because I will judge it so it's better to just not know for me person dude I just want to let you know that is simp like Behavior what is it's

Andrew Wilsonreally not it's just maturity is really simp like Behavior I'm afraid that I will be Jud or in your particular case you're saying um I don't

Andrew Wilsonwant to know because if I do know I might take a negative outlook right but that's the whole point is we want you to take a negative outlook based on that and the fact that you don't is one of

Athenathe big problems that we're having in society that's the point yeah what problems because I think that body count is also not indicative of a person at all because sometimes things happen um well let me explain why it to answer to

Andrew Wilsonanswer your question the reason that it's a problem is because what it allows is it allows promiscuity to kind of operate unfettered okay so what happens

Andrew Wilsonby men not producing judgment on women who are very loose women or have sex with many partners under the guise of I don't want to know uh it actually encourages women to do this Behavior

Athenabecause they feel like there'll be no societal societal or social repercussions that's the problem I don't think that everyone should just like have sex all the time with whoever all the time like I think that can be

Athenadangerous for a person but also I think it needs to be considered that um that has nothing to do with what I just said can you answer to what I just said what what I was going what I said

Andrew Wilsonspecifically is that the reason this is such a problem is because if you don't use the shame tactic for women in society for being highly promiscuous then what ends up happening is it it

Andrew Wilsoncreates an open license for them to be highly promiscuous because the way that they operate in society is based heavily around judgment the so women tend to Trend towards what Society judges as

Andrew Wilsonbeing appropriate or inappropriate so if they think this is appropriate and there's no repercussions they'll do it and that's exactly the trend we see right now can Jesus Christ this gue is that um

Athenathere's a difference between thinking that promiscuity is is appropriate or that promiscuity is okay and a body being okay cuz a body account is history

Brian Atlaspromiscuity promis it's proxy for promiscuity history promiscous go go ahead go ahead finish your point not everyone gets to choose their body count

Brian Atlaswhat true what does that mean world does that mean no I know I know what you're saying I know I know I know what you're saying I don't the the reality is though

Brian Atlaswomen who have high B counts it's not typically because the hundreds say say a girl's been with a 100 men okay her body counts 100 what percentage would you

Athenaattribute that to and I know what you're getting at to sa mhm it's not even necessarily that but also I don't think you would count that as a body to be honest I don't even think that that's where she was going also when it comes

Brian Atlasto body count let's here let's just even remove that off the table cons consensual body count let's say that there's like a kind of a line though because like while men want to judge a

Athenabody count they're also going to be really quick to try to get any women in their vicinity to hook up with them and like if a woman says no the first time and then like gets pressured a little

Athenabit and a little bit more that happens with most oh I see so women don't have agency I got it that's not true it's not it's not about like actually being like

Athenaheld down like it's it's you just are you so you don't have the agency to say no kind of yeah that's ridiculous why don't you have the agency to say no

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