She Wants A Traditional Man But WILL NOT Take Husbands Last Name?! | Dating Talk #117

Date: 2023-11-13

Duration: 5h 53m

Guests

Brian Atlas

JJacqueline (DT117)>

KKylie (DT117)>

JJackie (DT117)>

EEmily (DT117)>

CChase (DT118)>

TTiffany (DT117)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_02Ava Marie(guest)

SPEAKER_03Tiffany(guest)

SPEAKER_04Ali(guest)

SPEAKER_05Pearl Bots(guest)

SPEAKER_06Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_08Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_09Chase(host)

SPEAKER_11Emily/Jackie (mixed)(guest)

SPEAKER_13Jacqueline(guest)

SPEAKER_14Kylie(guest)

Key Moments

QuotePearl Bots introduces herself and describes going viral for TikTok about shaming men who split the bill.

“my name is Pearl Bots I'm 31 and I'm a singer songwriter and content creator”

QuotePearl argues that the viral TikTok was a skit to illustrate a point, not actual advice, and criticizes sensationalist journalism for misrepresenting her views.

“it was a 30 second clip of like a very small piece of how I think and who I am”

QuoteBrian challenges Pearl: she wants a traditional man who pays and leads but won't take his last name. Pearl says she hasn't met a man worthy of it yet.

“I haven't met a man who is worthy of me taking [his last name]”

QuoteChase responds that a high-value man would not want to marry a woman who won't take his last name.

“why would a high value man want to marry a woman who won't even take his last name”

QuotePearl rates herself a 10/10 on looks, arguing that perceiving yourself as a 10 helps you actually become more physically beautiful through higher self-standards.

“10... I think that my looks have grown as my self worth has grown”

ControversyBrian challenges Pearl and another guest who rated themselves 10/10, saying they overrated themselves. Ava pushes back, calling it ridiculous.

“y'all overrated yourselves a lot”

QuotePearl defends her 10/10 self-rating by explaining it as a mindset tool that leads to actual self-improvement and attracting better energy.

“if I perceive myself as a 10 then I push myself to get to those standards every day”

QuoteKylie shares the story of her first love at 19: a meth/heroin addict who led her on while seeing his ex, and who she visited in jail.

“he was addicted to drugs... he was messing around with me the whole time and seeing his ex-girlfriend”

QuoteJacqueline expresses frustration at the double standard on body counts, arguing men have no right to judge women when their own counts are higher.

“who the f*** are you to tell me or judge me on my body count when your body count is probably 10 times higher”

QuoteChase explains why the body count double standard exists: women can get sex easily, men must become exceptional to achieve the same. A high body count in a woman raises questions about self-control and faithfulness.

“if a woman wants to rack up a very high body count all she has to do is open her legs; if a guy wants to sleep with 100 women he has to become an absolute stud”

QuoteJacqueline calls out a TTS donor who criticized her looks, saying 'who are you to call anyone' and looking at his appearance.

“women look at what he looks like like look at you you are so ugly like who are you to call anyone”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship status round

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation) and describe current relationship status, recent breakups, and longest relationships.

Pearl Bots viral TikTok: shaming men who split the bill

Reaction to Pearl Bots' viral TikTok (~8M views) and NY Post article about using a trick to shame men who want to go 50/50 on dates. Discussion of whether men should pay for first dates, Pearl clarifies it was a skit/illustrative video, not advice. Led to broader debate about gender roles, feminism, and courtship norms.

Feminism debate: definitions, equality, gender roles

Whether guests consider themselves feminists and what that means. Debate about equality of opportunity vs. equality of outcome. Whether feminists truly want equality (draft, dangerous jobs). Pearl, Ava, and others articulate varying positions. Brian and Chase push back on inconsistencies.

Marriage, no-fault divorce, and state vs. biblical covenant

Brian argues no informed man should sign the marriage contract because women overwhelmingly initiate divorce and are rewarded for breaking the contract. Chase discusses history of fault-based divorce. Viewer donation about eliminating no-fault divorce.

Pearl Bots additional viral videos: feminine energy and traditional relationships

Reaction to Pearl's other viral TikToks about transitioning to feminine energy and soft girl era, wanting to be led by a man. Discussion about the tension between hyper-independence and femininity. Brian challenges Pearl on consistency between feminist identity and traditional relationship preferences.

Traditional man vs. taking husband's last name

Pearl says she wants a traditional man but is unsure about taking husband's last name. Brian and Chase press her on the contradiction: wanting a man who leads and provides but not wanting to take his last name. Pearl eventually says she's open to it if he's the right man.

Requirements in a partner and what women bring to the table

Discussion of what women offer beyond physical appearance and sex. Pearl talks about feminine energy as value-add for men. Brian and Chase debate whether high-value women need to offer more than what average women offer.

Self-rating of looks (1-10)

Guests rate their own physical appearance. Two guests rate themselves 10/10. Brian says most overrated themselves. Debate about objectivity in beauty standards, self-confidence vs. delusion, and how overestimating looks leads women to pursue men out of their league.

Kylie's dating story: first love, drug addict, criminal history

Kylie shares story of her first love at age 19 (newly sober) — a meth/heroin addict who led her on while secretly seeing his ex-girlfriend. She visited him in jail. Discussion of bad boy attraction, why women are drawn to men with dangerous/criminal vibes, and whether this is self-sabotaging.

Body counts and double standards

Whether body count matters, the double standard (men revered vs. women shamed), and why the double standard exists (differential ease of getting sex). Jacqueline expresses frustration. Chase and Brian explain biological/evolutionary reasoning. Guests share their counts. Jacqueline: 15. Tiffany: 0. Kylie: not disclosed. Emily: not disclosed. Chase: 8 (referenced from prior episode).

Transcript

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Pearl Botsin a man's world given the obstacles that women have to overcome that men have probably no idea that we even do paying for a date that he initiated is one hot and two the Le he could

Brian Atlasdo okay okay um quite a few things there so are you talking about the patriarchy in what well in that in that

Brian Atlasclip um you said it's a man's world I think you said it's easier for men women are disadvantaged and that women face

Pearl Botsobstacles so well one do you think that there's a patriarchy yes okay what does that mean um that men hold great G power

Pearl Botsthan women how so how how do men hold greater power than women yeah um well in this video I was specifically talking about the Working World I think in the Working

ChaseWorld it's like the structure of the workforce is built for like for men Ty how so mean like don't more women have college degrees aren more women college educated yeah I think the rates are when

Brian Atlasit comes to getting college degrees College admission actually attending college I I think it's like 6040 wow that's a huge advantage that women have so how does the workforce benefit men more is it college education

Brian Atlasthat we're talking about or is it earning power well since 198 talk colge well just really quick on College since he brought it up ever since 1980 it might even I think it starts 1979 there have been more women going to college

Brian Atlasgraduating from college getting college degrees so that's a four more than 40-year period so women who graduated college in 1980 are now basically

Brian Atlasreaching retirement age so we've had basically an entire a whole career span of women who in that time period were

Chasegraduating at higher rates than men were from University cool yeah so how is the workforce more beneficial towards men you said earning power can you provide evidence for that yeah I think you know

Pearl Botswith a lot of the like more like standard uh like tried and true i' suppose like high earning positions like men such as doctors

Pearl Botslawyers um I don't know I'm kind of what's the percentage between men and women in those professions so I don't know all of the stats like I'm I'm not here to bring you stats but do you think are there more do you guys have stats

Chaseabout the opposite like truly curious I'm I'm just I'm curious because you're making a claim but I'm wondering if you have do you have a counter claim I'm wondering if you have no well you made a claim and yeah in a court of law for example if you present a claim you have

Pearl Botsto provide evidence for in a court of law not a podcast you're having a conversation and I'm saying do you have any evidence for your claims um I mean I've read stuff before do I have it up right now no um I don't think we like

Emily/Jackie (mixed)need stats like I we need stats well no well I'm saying like if you just walk into a hospital who are you going to see primarily as nurses and women right so women are outperforming men it's I don't have stats either but like nowadays he's

Emily/Jackie (mixed)right outperforming as in college and getting education to where they can get a job like that they're outperforming men nowadays like but I mean relating it

Brian Atlasback to your original thing you want men to pay for the first date M so I I feel like you cannot on one hand demand first

Brian Atlasoff women are paid equally that's already been uh legislated back in the the I think that was in the 60s so it's actually uh if

Brian Atlasyou as a woman can prove in a court of law that there are men with the exact same um seniority in your company if you can prove and show that he's getting

Brian Atlaspaid more for the exact same work you can actually bring a lawsuit for discrimination so we've already legislated that legislated that it's

Chaseillegal to pay women less than men for the same work so I mean she's she's 23 and making six figures why why don't other women do that um because they're not interested

Chasein studying that oh so that's not a disadvantage that's a choice cuz also at the same time you know if you wanted if you wanted to become a welder you could go learn it and within a year and a half two years you could be making six figures why don't more women

Brian Atlasdo that where's the disadvantage well I think the thing is with with with that is that feminists when it comes to equal opportunity and equal pay you only want to secure the cushy comfortable

Brian Atlashigh-paying air conditioned office jobs you don't want equality when it comes to for example dangerous jobs that happen to pay well or just phys physically

Emily/Jackie (mixed)laborious jobs like I think we should ask someone with experience like would you say have you ever experienced more obstacles getting to your career or like men being given

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)more benefits in the workplace than you um for me I I don't think so but um I I don't have that much experience I guess I just started working like a year or

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)yeah a year ago but I also know that at least in my company we just we recently have this like internship program and it's only like females in Tech program so I feel like we're trying to AC

Brian Atlasfemales in here so I don't think it would be unfair now if there was something else like some sort of male only opportunity that would be feminists would be screaming at their top of their

Chaselungs how um so you're making the claim that women are disadvantaged in the workforce and that they uh don't have the same earning opportunities that men do this is a breakdown of many of the

Chaseblue color jobs throughout Society on my phone right here this is a breakdown of many of the blue color jobs throughout Society with uh how what percentage of each of those jobs are worked by men will you go ahead and read the first 10

Pearl Botsstatistics off of this please just read them uh into your microphone roofer 90% logger 93 veteran 90 plumber 97 mechanic 92 carer 92 coal

Chaseminer 94 fire firefighter 95 iron work and 92 so those are like well-paying decent paying bluecollar jobs that are completely yeah you don't want any of

Chasethose jobs but you could have any of those jobs as a woman uh why I mean I I I just I don't understand it's like I'm I'm hearing like hey you know us women are disadvantage but you just told me I

Brian Atlasdon't want any of those well-paying jobs is it disadvantage or is it that you just don't want the jobs no Fe feminism can only exist when there's air conditioned comfortable office jobs that

Ava Mariedon't require physically laborious works so true computer science it's true women don't want women don't again you're speaking on behalf of people that you aren't are you know what I mean it's

Ava Marielike saying men don't men this like I'm not a man okay she just said she doesn't want any of these jobs well that's her you know what I mean like there are some women that I'm sure have those jobs you can't generalize a whole gender there

Emily/Jackie (mixed)are some I mean for for example plumbers 3% of women are plumbers or 3% of plumbers are women they're not 100% for a reason so women do have the opportunity equal opportunity to pursue

Emily/Jackie (mixed)every one of those jobs so I don't think we have an inequality at any point I mean if you want to talk about value like inequality and value I don't think it's the same but I think the question

Brian Atlasthat you need to ask yourself when it comes to the wage Gap this career stuff it's not whether it's not whether it exists but why it exists and at least my view is

Brian Atlasthe answer is not sexism there's many reasons I think for the earnings Gap and I would say a big one is women's own choices women choose to go into certain careers certain Fields same with like

Brian Atlaswhat they study in University women choose to go into disciplines that happen to pay less so which is okay that's you give like an example of what like that specific example women

Chasechoosing not to go c choing a career that pays less like what you give an example I guess okay so who here wants to be an iron worker I I have we have some infographics on it but who who wants to be an iron worker or welder at

Chasethis table who would be interested in making six figures doing one of those jobs I would but it's a little dangerous it's it's quite dangerous it's quite dangerous would you want to do that no would you want to do that no would you

Chasewant to do that I might if the check is right okay so yeah you're making six figures you might be one of that like part of the 5% most women wouldn't want to do that and so it's like okay you have these Blue Collar jobs that I don't know what iron working pays but like

Chasewelding for example it's a it's a dangerous job but it's not because of sexism that women aren't making the same money in those careers it's cuz you guys just don't want them I think that the

Pearl Botsdisadvantage is um partly because like being a woman I mean again there's a variety of women but maybe like a good like chunk of us like we're not made to

Pearl Botsdo those things like I know that I'm not supposed to do any of those things like so in a way I guess I technically can do those things but I'm not made for those kind of of work so because I'm kind of

Pearl Botsmade for different kinds of work I'm like technically yes I can but I'm not going to make that kind of a money so that kind of money so if a man asks me out on a date and his biology is more

Pearl Botsbuilt to have a higher earning job then when we go on a date I would just expect him to take care of the date because I'm not made for those kinds of jobs and

Chasefeminine Fe excuse me feminism says women can do everything a man can do and they can do it better you're telling me as a self self-professed feminist I'm not made to do those are we

Ava Marieable to pull up the definition of f feminism has many many different there's many different kinds but if you look it up I'm curious of what the main one comes up as I don't agree with that kind of feminism I will say that's fine

Chasethat's fair and you know we can debate the the definition of feminism but to go back to one of the original points that you made you said that doctors and lawyers men get paid more in those Industries and I would agree with what

Chaseyou're saying that you are not made for the same type of work that men are I would say our Natures are different as human beings like I as a man am geared towards different work than a woman is yes that's not a bad thing no it is not

Chaseit is going to create inequality though because for example you know you mentioned lawyers there's there's many more high- paid lawyers that are men than there are women I'm sure part of that is because if you want to become a

Chasehighly paid lawyer as a woman like you're going to have to freaking grind your butt off through your 20s and your 30s meant to do that exactly and so but that and that proves my point the difference isn't because it's a man's

Chaseworld and it's sexism that's disadvantaging women it's because you don't want to work through your 20s and 30s grinding at 100 hour per week job as a lawyer so it's not sexism that creates

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)the disparity it's women just don't want to do it but I have a question like um does that make sense what's your question go ahead uh I I was wondering like why you or any other woman I guess

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)uh don't really go to computer science more often because I feel like as a tech job we well I sit at the office if I well if I go to the office and we have AC and it's like all comfortable and

Pearl Botsstuff and we also make good money so why don't you do that I wish I wish my brain was built like that I just am not like that personally and I do think that more women can do things like that you know have and I think that it's typically

Pearl Botsthought of as a male job and a lot of girls just maybe aren't really thinking about that maybe they think about being a homemaker or a therapist or whatever um but yeah I think that there should be

Chaseor not should but there's a lot of opportunity there for women I think most women most feminists would rather just complain about the wage Gap than actually take jobs they don't want I when you said like um just now about how

Ava Marieif a woman wants to be like a really high pain like on top of her game lawyer she's going to have to really bust her ass but do you do you think she has to bust her ass more than a man who has the same desire or the equal amount she

Chasemight might have to bust her butt more than a man because I mean law for example well I'll use my own career as an example so I've been doing brand Consulting with the company and uh one

Chaseof our chief executive officers is a female and in her industry she's like she works in finance basically drafts uh Financial agreements pitches super high

Chasepowerered like billionaires regularly right she's the only woman that does it in her industry there's maybe like one or two others that are at the at the level that she's at and it's not because

Chaseof sexism it's because she has to bring really strong masculine energy to the table and people will take her seriously when she does it like she's a professional ball buster she's a badass

Chasebut she has an energy that's much more aggressive than most men have and because of that men take her seriously I know maybe two women that could bring

Chasethat same energy to the table and be taken seriously by men and it's just like women they're typically not wired in that way whereas so with something like law like it's not

Chasenecessarily because of sexism that there's not as many uh high- performing female lawyers it's like it's a very aggressive job for sure it's a super aggressive job but I do think what you just said does support the feminist

Ava Marieargument that a woman does have to be a little bit more stepped into her masculinity and order to be respected why can't she be feminine but also a lawyer and still have her word be respected you know like I can say

Ava Mariesomething in a way that's maybe like more sweet but like they're going be like oh my God this like girl lawyers is not meant to be feminine they're meant to be Cutthroat but like I but I

Ava Marienaturally am just a feminine talking girl so why do I have to put on more of like a masculine character in order to be respected though and that's the feminist argument it's like I should be able to be me and and have the same

Ava Marieknowledge and education as you and be able to speak the way I'm speaking without having to be an absolute like vicious Beast about it in order to get my word it's it's I hear what you're

Chasesaying it's not the result of sexism for example for me doing business like I have to aggressively negotiate with people when I'm doing business and if I wanted to just like approach it from

Chaselike a soft lacad isical perspective not good nobody would take me seriously and it's not has nothing to do with my sex it's just the energy that you're bringing to the table like if I'm looking at a lawyer let me put it like

Chasethis if I'm if I'm looking for lawyer let's say we have two people one's a man one's a woman the man is kind of like a feminite and soft and he's not particularly aggressive the female is a total ballbuster and she's very

Chaseaggressive I'm going to hire her most likely rather than the soft AFF feminite man because she's going to do the job better she's masculine energy she's masculine energy but again you're speaking from your perspective and I

Ava Mariethink there are some people in the world that no matter what they might still look at the woman especially depending on how she looks or even she'll have to make maybe even be more self-conscious

Ava Marieof what she's wearing just to even extra be taken more seriously like especially when you look at women in politics when you look at female lawyers and in order to be respected like you're saying like

Ava Mariethey really are super tough they have to you know be it's a tough world yeah it is for sure and I definit but I also agree right like a man being kind of wishy-washy like you don't want that either you want a man who's also very

Ava Mariefirm and just equally speaking his mind in that way but I do feel like because of woman is a woman and I feel like there like you said earlier like a couple minutes ago you said she might have to work harder than a man yeah she

Chasemight have she might have to work against her nature I mean let me let me ask you this let's say you're going into a big lawsuit over some music stuff maybe somebody stole your music you have to sue somebody for $500,000 you got two people one's an

Chaseaggressive man the other's a soft feminine softs spoken woman who's not particularly aggressive you need to hire a lawyer which of those two individuals are you going to hire definitely the aggressive exactly and that's not a result of sexism it's just cuz you want the person

Ava Mariewho's going to get the job done best right and that has nothing to do with sexism for sure but I do think women do have to put on somewhat more of a hat in order to you have to defy your own

Ava Marienature um and just like in defined social norms and like stereotypical things feminism says we need to change we need to change that we

Ava Marieneed to change the fact that women need to adopt a different nature to succeed that's what feminism says I don't think that but I do think there is an initial assumption a lot of people in the world

Ava Mariemake if they see one person versus another just be every everybody everybody comes to conclusions because I do agree like in order to be a lawyer you do have to be very tough you have to

Ava Mariebe speaking with very strong will obviously you want that but at the same time there are a lot of people that regardless of what the woman still doing that they're still going to view her a certain way it's just human nature but

Emily/Jackie (mixed)it's like yeah it's not like mean or like um like you're discriminating against somebody it's just like you said you're working against your nature so you're working

Emily/Jackie (mixed)harder to make yourself more respected but like if you get a police officer and he's acting all feminine and just like oh no one's going to respect someone like that or like a lawyer if you walk into a courtroom and they're just kind

Emily/Jackie (mixed)of oh going around being all feminine like you're going to lose and you know you're going to lose that trial like you but I'm saying like for a woman who's not acting like that though but I'm say Feminine we know yeah but to to

Emily/Jackie (mixed)act Cutthroat and aggressive and strong like that is a masculine trait so to be feminine and to do that you're going against your biology and you're taking on more masculine traits I think she's saying even with a woman who has that

Chasemasculine energy some people still won't take her seriously and yeah you're not wrong I mean there's just natural biological sexism that exists between both sexes for sure I'm going to let a couple of these chats come

TTS Donationsthrough got a couple notifications coming we have Carla Carla Catherine Giller reign we donated $99 this new generation of women are ruining our chances with real

TTS Donationstraditional man which are becoming a Dying Breed Christ is Lord I wish more men think like Chase Christ is Lord amen also thank you for the compliment Carla thank you

Brian Atlasappreciate it Carla we have another one coming in here here in just a second just a second we got GD grid One Motorsports yeah these These are going to linger okay we got Trevor Brown thank

TTS Donationsyou for the man grid One Motorsports donated $100 cheap puppy Kiko do you think before you speak can a man sell pictures

TTS Donationsof his Thum perov and pull six digits a month true can a man walk into human resources department and get hired simply because he is a man affirmative action you do not know the answer please

Jacquelinelearn oh ooh oh okay grid One Motorsports all right can I say something there's another okay make it you got numberjack on Instagram that

Jacquelinemakes like millions of dollars the guy who just smashes love that guy exactly and he's like super famous just from cutting wood based off of his physique and his he doesn't make millions of dollars is he the show I invited you

Brian Atlasknow who I'm talking about the guy who like T who's got the sleeve and he yeah yeah he cuts wood uh Leo I'll pull that up again in a sec donated $99 yo thank you C this is a man's world as it was

TTS Donationsbuilt by men the competition in the world also makes a man's ESS very difficult so that man buying you that noou is also a champion amongst men

Ava Mariethat's why he is so successful men pay their dues do you on the right yeah but who gave birth to you and why can't you say women don't pay their dues and women

TTS Donationscan't work as I'm so confused as to why we can't also equally be working hard for a career donated

TTS Donations$11 when CS grad stats are 85% men 15% women and the workforce reflects this as 6040 you are statistically hiring less

TTS Donationsqualified women basic math ask Jackie she was wrecked to take stats if all women did stem maybe would be problem reality is they

Chasedon't men and women pursue different things and have different interests bro is he saying is he saying that 85% of grad are men and 15% are women but

TTS Donationshaving as a man is not conducive to roles like being a school teacher nurse caretaker Etc this is also why employers are more inclined to hire women for

Brian Atlasthese roles over men men are often discriminated against for these is it discrimination for a woman to prefer a female

JacquelineOBGYN or like a female to do her Brazilian wax well would a guy want would a guy want a girl to do his oh I think well I think it's valid his check would you rather have a guy or a girl do

Jacquelinethat check my check your I'm I'm are you talking about like a prostate prostate yeah would you want a guy or a girl to check your prostate be honest I just prefer not to get

Brian Atlasmy you should that's not bad but just be honest what do you I mean isn't it isn't it don't they just put it I don't care personally I'm just going to get it done I don't care honestly I don't think I

Brian Atlaswould care I wouldn't care I mean if she was super hot I'd be like ah all right we have Leo here Boomer had second wave feminism don't need a man

Brian AtlasGen X had it the in their whole lives Millennials got third wave men are evil SL source of my problems at a young age how on Earth could you think Society favors men only men 70 to 80 plus lived

Chaseduring a patriarchy word yeah I would I would on that note I would actually argue that we live in an often female dominated world like almost all of my teachers growing up were women and man did they make sure

Chaseall the boys stayed in line then throughout High School almost all my teachers teachers were female and then in college I would say probably 70% of my teachers were female like it's not exactly what I would call a patriarchy it is interesting well that's your

Ava Mariespecific experience cuz I don't know what the again statistically that is cuz I had an opposite experience most of your teachers growing up were men from junior high on M were men interesting I mean I had I had almost all male

Ava Marieteachers in junior high and it was freaking awesome and that doesn't mean just because your teachers are a certain gender mean the whole world is female dominated because of that one work force paid like yeah I was just thinking that they paid horribly and there's

Chasealways teacher strikes and know none none of those women want to go do the tough bluecollar jobs it's just sexism you know they're so disadvantaged all right we have win pc99 girl on the far right if you believe in equality what is

Pearl Botsmore equal than splitting the bill on a date is that to me yeah oh my God this honestly this question is boring but um again like I said women don't it's not

Pearl Botsthe money that I bring to a relationship that's valuable and if he asked a woman on but and I don't know if it was this a YouTube channel so it's not that much better than hard

Brian Atlastime okay um I would say YouTube though just to I mean just no YouTube is more profitable for sure it's not even about profitable I think it's more uh there's a greater

Chasedegree of uh effort that typically goes into a YouTube video than Tik to video sure for sure uh in any case I was thinking about that earlier I was thinking to myself about the fact that you have worked so hard to set up this

Chaseentire facility and like build this Channel and do everything and there's so few women in comparison that are building really successful YouTube channels like this why is that is it because of sexism or women just don't what the St I feel like there are a lot

Chaseof YouTube channels that are run there are a lot of YouTube channels that are run by run by women but when I'm thinking about like successful podcasts and YouTube channels by by large the majority of the ones that I see going

Pearl Botsviral across the internet are typically run by men maybe maybe that's just my algorithm though your alith I feel like it's pretty even from my I see tons of

Brian Atlassuccessful women on YouTube My algorithm do I think it's harder for women to be successful as a YouTuber than a man okay unrelated to dating I'm just sorry I got to cut that off okay Jackie mentioned females in Tech internship at her

Brian Atlascompany does this mean I can have a Mal's in Tech internship and that is all fine in Dandy or is that somehow sexism and the reverse is not

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)um well I don't think you can have males and Tech internship just just because our compan is like I don't know if you go to the elevator there's like eight guys and two girls but I personally I

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)think that's also unfair so okay you think it'd be unfair wait you think it's unfair that there's eight guys and two girls no I think it's unfair that there's only females in Tech I I think it should just be like both

Ava Mariegenders okay I think a lot of women just don't want the job well I think they're trying to push more women into it though cuz like you're saying like we want if we want equality that means we do want women to be more

Ava Mariein jobs like you're saying that are higher paying and so things like females in Tech or whatever it was called is there way I think of trying to get more

Pearl Botswomen into the field so that can happen yeah it's basic affirmative action um go ahead are you finished with the go ahead go ahead go ahead I'm like this is like

Pearl Botsa genuine like curious I'm like just genuinely like wondering this and like wondering what everybody's Viewpoint of this is um cuz obviously like I see I I understand what you guys are saying and

Pearl Botslike we have different perspectives and I think we need your perspective like and you need our perspective honestly like we need each other to like really get to the truth because you I might

Pearl Botshave an extreme view to you and you have an extreme view to me but we need each other cuz the truth is probably somewhere in the middle in my opinion that's I mean that's

Pearl Botsacious argument but in my opinion um and so I guess I'm just wondering because I do see like the lawyer and the doctor agreement and like the whole like jobs are more aggressive that's why I don't

Pearl Botswant them because I don't want to be in my masculine I want to be in my feminine and I do I am drawn to more positions that tap into my feminine but I guess I

Pearl Botskind of wonder if the structure of law from the beginning had more feminine energy it was more balanced it wasn't so aggressive would there be more space for

Pearl Botswomen and is that what women are fighting for not to be in a man's world but to make the nature of the job more feminine somehow the nature of the job

Pearl Botsmore feminine yeah because the way that it that mean for a job to be more feminine so for instance let's just take business as like sure just general

Pearl Botsbusiness what what is the primary goal of business business to make money okay so for instance like for me when I was

Pearl Botslike oh to have a business I have to network oh I have to do marketing I have to do sales like all that stuff I'm like it sounds like I have to be all aggressive and I don't really want

Pearl Botsto be in that Vibe but when I re when I um realign my thinking of what um marketing is I'm like oh marketing for me can be me being deeply myself and

Pearl Botssharing who I am and then when I think about sales sales is just solving people's problems right and so for me I don't like thinking about it sales but if I think about it as empathy if I think about it as oh you have a problem that I know how to solve and like I'm

Pearl Botsempathetic towards you that's feminine that's a feminine energy when I think about it like that I'm more drawn to sales I'm more drawn to networking if networking is building a community of people who support me if I think about

Pearl Botsit in a more feminine way I'm more drawn to business like that I'm not I'm just saying saying is there space for feminine energy in a masculine world

Pearl Botswhen in the masculine Workforce no and why why is that the case a resounding I mean that's your opinion so I mean

Chaselook I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything no for sure this is a discussion goes back to what I said like 30 minutes ago the feminist perspective

Chaseseeks to restructure reality itself restructure what is at this moment what has been and will always be how do we know what will always

Chasebe I mean you can just you can look at the pattern of the last 5,000 6,000 years we've changed though no uh yeah we have and a lot of those changes have been bad here's the thing let me allow

Chaseme to answer your question okay yeah law can we restructure the structure of law in order to make it more feminine what are two lawyers doing in a in a court of law two lawyers

Brian Atlasfighting against one another what are they doing um trying to prove their client innocent let's only Linger on this because I feel like we've already dedicated nearly an hour and a half on

Chasethis let's try to I'm going to wrap it up quick business law medicine all of the sales for

Chaseexample these are Industries where you have to win you have to win it's not about like like teaching for example I had female teachers that were very good with empathizing with the students

Chasethat's an important just built into the structure of the job that feminine energy is important law you are working to win for your client business you are working to win sales yes empathy is

Chaseimportant but salesmen the most successful salesmen are the most aggressive at the job they're working hard at it like they're the I know a lot of salesmen they work freaking hard at their jobs that's not one where you're just like feeling and like you know just

Chasein your feminine energy it's like you have to work hard and follow up and like constantly follow up in order to hit your goals and your quotas and so on and so forth these are it's it's masculine energy and the world is a competitive

Pearl Botsplace and in order to succeed in a competitive world you have to bring the masculine energy to the table it will always be like that so why do you think that um like feminine jobs aren't highly

Chasepaid is it just because it's not like as needed of a skill super there's super models that make like millions of there's singers dancers that make millions of dollars like it's you're talking about very masculine

Brian Atlasjobs that are male-dominated because you have to bring masculine energy it's also it's also a question of scale too like a software engineer for example you can create a product that has scale that can

Brian Atlasreach thousands hundreds of thousands millions of people so there's more opportunity to make money whereas if you're like a nurse or a caregiver there's only so many patients for example that you can see in a day so you

Chasecan't really scale that and also human beings you know you were talking about hormones before you know as a woman like you have especially a different parts of your cycle you have feminine energy that

Chaseyou feel you know human beings are wired temperamentally on a biological level to be drawn towards certain things one of the reasons why stem is a Mal dominated field is because a lot of women just

Chasearen't interested in it we're never going to change that it's it's just it's the nature of reality you can't change the nature of reality does that make sense yeah that makes sense and we we have two more videos from you but we'll

Brian Atlasmaybe get into them a little bit later on in the show because I I want to uh try to bring in a few of the other people here at the table we have Jacqueline here Jacqueline

Brian Atlasmhm in your bio it says you are the real Sleeping Beauty what huh what does that mean I just love sleeping H you like sleeping yeah I see okay it's in your

Brian AtlasInstagram bio so I was just curious you say uh so 33-year-old teacher from San Diego you just broke up with your boyfriend who was 8 years younger than you yeah uh and look and you're looking

Brian Atlasto just talk about my crazy passw dating as I always pick the worst guys yeah um and so you were in a relationship if I recall you said four was this the

Brian Atlasfour-year one that ended two weeks ago yeah uh so you were you 30 and he was 21 when you guys met 22 Yeah he was 22 and you were 30

Jacquelineyeah okay gotcha um and how did you meet him online dating app um yeah Craigslist

Brian Atlasexactly no it was um a live stream app a live stream omegi is it called meet me huh Meet Me meet Me yeah and you can live stream and get oh so were you live

Brian Atlasstreaming and he messaged you or you messaged yeah what were you live streaming just my day oh okay that's cool all right what was his message to you I can't remember I I think he was like your baby he asked for my Snapchat

Chaseand I said I don't have a Snapchat I said if you want to get a hold of me my Instagram and was he in San Diego Instagram yeah okay yeah he's in these women man they talk to guys that immediately asked for the snap right off

Brian Atlasthe bat and then they're like why doesn't it work out I I don't really have snap four years later why I didn't work out uh you said okay so on on again off again relationship M you said he was

Jacquelinecheating and ghosted you multiple times yeah ghosted you a relationship yeah so when so the times when he would break up with me he would do it in like such a

Jacquelinelike Savage disgusting way like he would just like stop talking to me like cut all communication like nothing like he wouldn't tell me anything like he would break up with you and then just stop talking to you or he would just yeah or

Jacquelinehe would get mad and just like cut communication isn't that like the best route like when you break up somebody that you should not talk to them I want to know answers like what's going on you deserve you don't deserve closure yeah

Brian Atlasyou don't deserve pleasure exactly no and like whether you're a man or a woman if you want out of a relationship you can you don't need to provide justification for in my view I

Alithink you should have a proper breakup conversation yeah just send it but also have you ever been ghosted do you know how that feels and you're okay with just ghosting sucks but then what are you going to do

Brian Atlastotally disagree if you've been married for 10 years just text totally disagree I want I'm divorcing you babe just send me a text I'm I'm I'm being a bit

Jacquelinefactious but um no but I mean like would he break up with you in person or how would would never it would he would just get mad about something and then just like stop like cut all Communications

Jacquelineoff like probably go bang a couple chicks and then miss kid just kid no for sure that's that's I'm almost was positive that's what happened right I don't know for sure but I'm positive right and so then he would whatever miss

Jacquelineme this that and then come back and then like an ID wait so okay he's a younger guy right have you always dated younger guys or since I've gotten older yeah I don't know so at some point it switched

Jacquelinewhere like I was the older one and they were younger but when when was that when did that switch cuz I got older I don't know when I was younger was like older guys and now that I'm old is that the biggest age Gap the eighty year one or have you had bigger no I I would say

Brian Atlasthat's yeah absolutely that's the biggest yeah yeah um and I I don't think there's anything wrong with with that with with age gaps in adult relationships um it although it does seem to me typically women are far more

Brian Atlaslikely to date older men so that's a bit unique um so okay you met him on a live streaming thing were you fi were you guys living together no okay no were you

Jacquelinefinancially supporting him given that you were perhaps a bit more established in your career you were older than him or was it 50 N not at all like it was definitely you know I I noticed like at the very beginning of us talking that he

Jacquelinewould do some like things like he'd be like oh you're going to buy me dinner right and I was just like I let it slide a couple times and then finally I was like this is not some kind of like sugar mama type like this is not going to

Jacquelinego on like you know and then after I like was assertive like he stopped doing it like he didn't do it anymore so then I when we got more comfortable with each other then it was much more like you buy something it got became normal cuz we both had bought things for each other

Brian Atlasif you were dating a 30-year-old guy would you expect him to like if you went on date would you expect him to pay for stuff if he asked me on a date yes okay

Brian Atlaswe should okay we I don't want to we'll come back to the whole hoay thing but um okay so he was would you consider him a

Jacquelineleech kind of no not a leech not Le okay selfish oh selfish selfish but he didn't yeah okay you also wrote here you dated

Jacquelinea Romeo pimp one time without realizing what is a Romeo pimp okay so a Romeo pimp is a type of pimp that when they type of pimp okay yeah I know this is

Jacquelineall new to me too so when I learned but it's like a type of guy who he like love bombs girls so that they fall in love with him and then from that point he

Jacquelinemanipulates them to go out and have sex and make money I did not do that oh make that very clear I not do that did he prop yeah he did I I didn't know that he

Jacquelinewas a pimp at all and it's a really long story of how I even like camear f no and that's so funny I was like that's how I envisioned pimps but like I'm from San

JacquelineDiego and like San Diego is just was it a white guy he was Middle Eastern oh okay how so he's a legit pimp he went to

Jacquelinejail for four years when he was 18 for pimping and pandering and so he while he was dating you did he were you aware of like other like he had a roster of women

Jacquelinehe was pimping out no so I met him after he had gotten out of jail and I met him through a mutual friend who had was living with me did you know he had been in jail I didn't know he had been in jail how recently I didn't know what how

Jacquelinerecently after he got out of a jail did you start dating him I'm not 100% sure I want to say it was like maybe 6 months it wasn't very long you said you didn't know it never occurred to you to ask why

Jacquelinehe was in jail I figured it was drugs I you know what I almost want to say this was a while ago I almost want to say like they said it was drugs like they didn't say it was pimping and pandering like his friends did not tell me nor did he tell me it was pimping and pandering

Jacquelinelike they had said something different I don't know 100% sure what it was if it was I can't remember to be honest but it was not what how how long were you dating him oh my God like like a so

Brian Atlasdisgusting like maybe like a month month yeah it was so bad like question so at what point in that month that you were dating him did you find out that he was

Jacquelinewas you're saying he used to be a pimp or even when he was dating you I don't know I don't think he tried to turn you turn you out I yeah he he would like manipulate and like make suggestions like oh if you got a boob job you know

Chaseyou could make a lot of money stripping like d and so like I saw these things and I was just like like what the you know and then finally I had another friend that's a huge dude I think it's hilarious he went to jail for pimping

Jacquelinegets out immediately starts trying to pimp again start trying to turn holy it was just like a really creepy relationship like he wanted me to like stay like I could not talk to any guys like my head would have to be down like he wanted me to stay in the room when he

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)left and like all this stuff and I just was not about it like I was like was he trying to isolate you from like people in your life hell yeah yeah that's yikes yeah why did you decide to date someone who went to jail in the first place um

Jacquelineit's a great question know yeah that is a really good question I don't know that stuff doesn't necessarily bother me I guess like uh doesn't strike you as like a red flag it should it should Happ right um looking like hindsight but yeah

Brian Atlasyou know if somebody has like a criminal record but they're like doing something better for themselves I like I said I chose horrible guys like horrible we'll get into that we'll get into that I have some notes here um wait so remind me

Jacquelinewhat point in the one month relationship did you find out that he was a pimp like very close to when it ended I I want to say like it was like a week before like like hit the fan like my friend ended up like dragging him out of

Jacquelinemy bed like beating his ass like it was a whole thing male friend or female friends male friend like why he do I don't know they had like a fight or something and then he like that was my friend who was living with me at the time so they had a fight and so we were

Jacquelineliterally asleep in my room and he came into my room ripped him out of bed beat his ass and threw all his stuff out and like pretty much gave me the rundown of like everything that was going on what he was doing and after that I was like thank you and what was he doing F you

Jacquelinejust talking to a bunch of girls trying to pimp again you know trying to like you know live that life again was your friend trying to save you from him basically I think he had gotten into a fight with him about something like non-related and it just fit the narrative for him I don't think he like

Jacquelinewent out of his way to like be like a hero or anything I'm not going to give him that credit but it worked in my advantage okay yeah yeah huh why do you why do you pick such bad guys I don't

Jacquelineknow what's your relationship like with your dad oh it's really good now um it's a little bit rough growing up but I have a really positive good relationship with my dad I have for the past 10 years so

Brian Atlasbut growing up it was a little little rocky yeah but now good so okay you dated this guy he was in jail um you said you'd like to talk about how hard

Jacquelineit is to date in this day and age uh how um I think the um one of you guys had mentioned it it's just like with social media it's like everything is

Jacquelineit's just it's so hard because you just have constant Temptation like you have constant like you can hit up a girl in their DMS and you can do this and it's just constant temptation all the time oh

Brian Atlasso are you saying that it's a it's a man thing men have tempt the men have hold on the men have Temptation and the women are totally innocent in this whole social media Dynamic not at all I mean

Jacquelinethere's lots of Temptation for women too I mean there's lots of guys that will DM you I mean probably way so more than men depending on what guy you know what kind of guy you are but I just think they're so easy now like it's so easy to like

Jacquelinenot value the person you're in because you think you deserve someone better or you're looking at this girl and why just like comparison it's just so like mental you know and so it just makes things a lot more difficult I think but

Jacquelineyou don't have to do social media that's true or you could also like how would I meet people then if I didn't do social media I love your cont and hang out with people I know it's so wholesome H yeah I

Jacquelinedon't know like wait so are you saying social media is a bad thing or a good thing I think both I think both I think there's a lot of good things that come from social social media Med like you

Jacquelineknow creativity um like stuff like this like I I watch YouTube all the time like every day you know just like dating wise dating wise definitely I think it's bad I think it's toxic and bad you say like that's how you meet people yeah it's the

Jacquelineonly way I meet people because she wants to stay home I'm a homebody though I'm a homebody I don't really go out I don't really I don't drink I don't go out like I'm a complete homebody like I want to like I want to stay in all the time did

Jacquelineyou used to be that way like did you used to like in your younger years crazy part was super young like 17 16 18 but like I've been a home body for a long time which is why I don't really meet people like the normal way it's like I

Brian Atlashave to meet people like a home body I'm a home body there you go yeah all right you said that uh it makes you feel pretty hopeless in actually finding someone that you'll marry and have kids with so late in the game when you say so

Brian Atlaslate in the game do you mean because you're 33 is that what I'm talking about and um and you mentioned that the relationship that you were in it was a four-year on again off again relationship it ended two weeks ago and

Brian Atlasthis person was uh eight years your junior is that correct yeah do you think that being in an on again off again situationship mhm you consider a situationship correct it

Brian Atlaswas definitely a relationship oh relationship um with someone eight years your Junior who I mean clearly you aren't going to get stability and commitment from right especially for the past four years when this is a pretty

Brian Atlascritical time period for finding a husband um do you think that maybe I mean you he was 21 when you were

Jacqueline30 22 yeah or 22 yeah I mean do you think most 22-year old men are like ready to get married and yeah have kids I

Brian Atlaswasn't married or ready to have kids at that moment in my life either yeah that like I think on average that's around like 29 I think or is it 27 the average

Brian Atlasage of marriage for women I think or maybe was just like with him particular I just didn't see that or I wasn't like but you spent some pretty critical years there dating a man 8 years or Junior not that I have anything against age gaps

Brian Atlasbut I suspect most 22-year-old men are not really looking to get married and have kids and whatnot by the way the TTS is are can you pull that last TTS back up I want to just maybe get through some

Brian Atlasof this stuff so relevant dude here I'll sure let me let me take a look uh let's see one sec guys oh one SEC okay here we go why don't we pull it

TTS Donationsup greck donated $99 this shows that woman choose the absolute biggest dead beats and afterwards say all men are the same and most single mothers chose these people

TTS Donationsand wonder why they don't pay child's support also Chase thanks for being a reason for my way back to Christ stoked to hear that bro thank you man appreciate it uh I would say that that

ChaseSuper Chat touches on the point you're making pretty well you're saying you want one thing which is you want to find a husband and you know someone to have kids with correct yeah you want to find a good man you've expressed you know a fear of like

Jacquelineending up with a dead beat that's just going to leave you hanging right yeah definitely why you messing around with these 21y old dudes and these dudes that are just out of jail yeah okay so let's the guy that is just out of jail we're

Jacquelinejust not going to count him well we no we count him is we're going to count him that was a very quick mistake but um with him I don't know because like people will ask me they'll be like do you think that the age Gap had anything

Chaseto do with you guys like breaking up and like it didn't it wasn't the age Gap it was just literally like I'm not asking about why you guys would break up if you want to find a solid dude why you doing why you dating these nonsolid dudes I I

Chasepick the worst guys I swear why don't you start picking good guys if you want to get married you can't keep playing this game forever if you want to be a a wife and a mother you want kids yeah yeah so all right some Chad comes along

Jacquelinehe's like 22 he's like what's up girl and he's trying to smash are you going to date him or you going to be like no I'm looking for a husband yeah no I'm not going to date I'm not going to make that mistake again cuz like you said I think it's like a critical time period

Jacquelineif I did want to have children and like I do want children but like I made that face cuz like my sister has two children right now she's 3 years older than me and every time like it's like oh they're a lot of work but it's like I hope one

Jacquelineday that I do um but yeah I do definitely need to be think it's worth like reevaluating your dating strategy to like optimize for the kind of guy you're looking for for sure like whoever I allow like into my space cuz it's not

Jacquelinelike it's like like I have like options it's like I'm just choosing the wrong guy because I think that's what I'm attracted to which is an issue cuz I'm you're attracted to the wrong kind of guy I'm definitely attracted to like the

Brian Atlaswrong kind of stuff for sure what is that just like bad boys um I know so I know it's so typical we should go around the table on this who here likes and is attracted to Bad

Brian AtlasBoys one come on come come on Bad Boys you I've never been attracted to Bad Boys oh okay that's good all right no bad boys come on there's been one or two one or

Ava Marietwo there's been on and off relationship I mean one or two bad boys um but I wouldn't like from the first glance like I feel like they're not that though like they're not like the typical stereo you know what I mean like I feel like not

Kyliefresh out of jail it's not attractive and that's why it ends because I don't like it okay bad boys this is weird but

KylieI to like guys that were and are now like like a reformed a reformed bad boy you know they were bad they've been

Kyliethrough a lot of and came out on the other side different person I don't know I like that now I I'm not surprised by it at all the psychology completely makes sense you

Alilike the bad boys I just want to fix them and then once and then once I figure out that I can't I'm like peace out sorry it's not working out okay bad

Tiffany/Jackie (mixed)boys no no no I like guys that treat me well so wholesome no I think it's immature okay

Chaseyou got to fix this bad boy habit yes I do it's not well I'm like what we should watch that um if you don't if you don't fix this you're going to like screw up

Chaseyour window of opportunity yeah can I give you can I give you just one one piece of advice please do I'm listening I don't know the one you send if he asks for your Snapchat stop

Pearl Botsit there but then I just give them my number no if he no don't go out with that guy if he asks for your Snapchat at all what does he ask agree with that fully look let me let me break it down

Chasefor you okay dudes that ask for Snapchats to use a a common term nowadays dudes that ask for Snapchats are boys okay I'm blowing a lot of dudes games out there right now

Chaseextremely immature ones like be a little more clever at least you're a smart boy if you're going to be a boy are you kiding me it's like this if a guy's asking for your Snapchat he wants no record or trace of your guys' messages

Chasehe also probably wants nudes and he's not he's making it clear right off the bat he has no serious intentions for the relationship A girl asks for his snap is

Chasethat stre to the streets instag if if a girl asks for my Snapchat I'm like freaking dudes are you hooking

Jacquelineup with to be honest what's she trying to hide yeah why exactly why can't the message be permanent son would you apply the same um ideas to

Chasein uh Instagram or like any social media no Instagram is different in so the thing about Instagram I mean if you're trying to find like a partner through Instagram there's stuff you can do you

Chaseknow first off you're going to attract what you are so if you're posting booty pcks all over the place and like thirst traps and stuff like that you're going going to get guys that just want to smash those are the dudes that are that are going to be sliding into DMS right

Chaseif a woman's posting like tasteful conservative modest images of herself where she's showcasing her beauty but not like her body she's going to attract a different caliber of guy and it also

Chasecomes down to what is the DM that he sends you yeah you know like read read the energy is he just trying to smash or is he like genuinely curious in who you are as a person yeah cuz if guys are if

Brian Atlasguys are trying to smash right off the bat like it's probably not a dude that's serious about a long-term relationship with you yeah no not necessarily you can smash pretty early on and still want a long-term relationship I think a lot I'm

Brian Atlasruining Brian's game right now but like like long-term relationships I've had some long fantastic long-term relationships out of 5 year or twoyear nine months you can hook up on the first second or third date just saying just

Chasesaying Chase yes and marriages will still come from that but what what I the point that I'm making is you're a woman who's looking for marriage right mhm you're a woman who's looking for marriage if you're if you have guys

Chasesliding into your Instagram DMS and they're trying to smash right off the bat the percentage of them that are actually trying to have a marriage with you are probably going to be quite low because a lot of bad boys nowadays know they can slide into a girl's DMS and

Chasesmash how do you know the difference between who is a bad boy and who is just Faking It you want to know the real answer yes I do if you refuse to have sex with him right off the bat then you'll know real quick whether or not he's a bad boy how long I don't know

Chasethat's a whole L well I mean if you're trying to optimize for marriage just don't have sex with him until your wedding night no no no no no well then good luck yeah good luck yeah you know but I mean seriously if you hold out for

Chaselike a month or a couple of months like if you don't want to wait for marriage and you hold out for you know 3 four five 6 seven eight dates whatever you tell them hey I don't want to have sex right off the bat like the guys that are

Jacquelineactually serious about you for you are going to be willing to wait I have a fear that if you make a man wait he will cheat on you I mean then well then you don't want them

Brian Atlasyeah but I I have one of the issues I have with this whole like waiting thing that ought to have look it's it's a difficult position I think it ought to have been your standard the entire time

Brian Atlasthough you spent your 20s around racking up maybe you didn't but if you spent your 20s just jumping from dick to dick to dick and then you hit your 30s okay now I've got to find a husband

Brian Atlasand now you're going to make this guy who's deserving of marriage you're going to make this guy wait it just like at least from my point of view I feel like that guy's a sucker so I but it's a damn I do

Brian Atlasempathize with women on this because on one hand it's like well I'm not going to advocate for you to just continue perpetually throughout life just running like letting men run through you but also it's like as a guy like I don't know Chase how you'd feel about this

Brian Atlaslet's say a woman that you encounter and perhaps you wouldn't even date a woman like this to begin with but you found out that she had 30 previous sexual partners and I know that's too high for

Brian Atlasyou and that's pretty high body count I reckon uh she all those guys she slept with them the first night but then for you we're waiting till marriage to have

Chasesex on one hand it's good that you're ceasing your promiscuity but also it's like I don't know it just like it's going to be a tough pill to swallow for a guy for sure I mean it's

Chaselike hey you let all these guys hit right off the bat but you're going to make me wait cuz you want to try and lock me down like that's that's gun going there's a meme about this Nick can you find the flower cuck meme there's a

Chasememe about this no it's you're going to have to Google it um so it it is also like the thing is it is also kind of a female mating strategy like a lot of women hit their 30s and they slept with

Chasea bunch of dudes they slept with a bunch of dudes in their 20s but then they're like hey like I want to settle down now and yeah like that's going to be a tough pill for a lot of guys to swall follow but like again it's

Chaselike you've got two the way I see it you've got two options you can either keep screwing around with guys that aren't serious about you and then find yourself in your mid to late 30s with

Chasefewer options MH which a lot of women do and then they end up unhappy and on anti-depressants drinking wine with their cats for the rest of their lives you don't you don't want that outcome don't talk about my aunt like that show

Brian Atlasto me on on this monitor it's like that's that's you don't need to a risk minimize just or actually maybe you do I don't the other path is no it's not that it's be

Chasebe wiser how you're going about this you know like the IDE look the ideal outcome here especially for marriage in general you want to find a guy who doesn't want you just for your body it doesn't want

Chaseyou just for sex but who loves you for youh you know and the thing about sex when you introduce sex into an equation it complicates everything right like the way I approach it it's like okay if a

Chasewoman tells me hey I want to wait till marriage I'm like if I really love her like I'm not saying I'm going to want to sleep with her beforehand but if I really love her I'm going to be like yo like that I share that value like I want to do that you know and it's not going to be a problem for me like I really

Chaselove her it's like yes let's do that you know but if a guy doesn't really love you for you he's not going to be content with that you know and I'm not saying that you have to save yourself from Marriage I would Advocate your I would Advocate that I know Brian disagrees but

Chaselike removing sex from the equation the point that I'm making is it's going to filter all of the guys that just want to use you you have to filter all of the guys that just want to use you is my point and you haven't been filtering

Chasethem and for your goals getting married having a family you need to start filtering out all the bad boys that just want to use you yeah she's not attracted to those guys though I can't be no I am I'm not I'm not not attracted to maybe

Jacquelineyou need to find what she's talking about the reform bad boy exactly are there is that a thing is it a thing is there a reformed bad boys should be there is there is has to be I've seen him yeah Bad Boys used to be bad boys

Brian Atlasand now they good boys yeah there's this term called hibristofilia it's basically uh let me let me just look it up really quick hold on yeah I mean I I I know reformed bad boys like I know dudes with like 100

Brian Atlasplus body counts that became Christians and then they're like yo like I'm saving it for marriage now so hrist ailia is the phenomenon of an individual being sexually aroused by a criminal offender

Brian Atlasand this is much more documented in women than in men uh real I think uh there is a non-negligible cohort of women who I would say perhaps not to the extreme of

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