The Officer Tatum DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #107

Date: 2023-10-09
Duration: 5h 53m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)
SPEAKER_01Brandon Tatum(guest)
SPEAKER_02Claudia(guest)
SPEAKER_03Eileen(guest)
SPEAKER_04Yasica(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Julia(guest)
SPEAKER_09Claudia (overflow)(guest)
SPEAKER_11Diana(guest)
SPEAKER_12Karen (Serena)(guest)

Key Moments

00:04:23
QuoteKaren reveals she just ended a 4-year lesbian relationship and discovered her "lesbian" girlfriend had been cheating with multiple men

"I just recently found out that I was cheated on with a man... she cheated on me with a man... supposedly multiple men."

00:08:14
QuoteClaudia discloses she was born with two cervixes (uterine didelphys) and jokes her self-rating should be doubled to 13

"I would rate myself as a seven but I was born with two uteruses so I count it twice... I have two cervixes, if I had a husband he could touch them both."

00:33:00
ControversyBrandon Tatum criticizes Fresh & Fit for giving immature advice to young men, saying they come from a broken place

"I think they come from a very immature place, they come from a very broken place... the guy gave this young man such horrible advice about a woman and told him to go get a side chick."

00:53:30
QuoteBrian shares story of asking injured girlfriend to prep cucumbers — she did it begrudgingly due to feminist programming, which led to their breakup

"I had some cucumbers in the fridge, you think you could like prep them for me... I could tell by the chops on the cucumbers it was super begrudging... and that's when I knew."

00:59:18
QuoteJulia admits she compromised her Christian standard of waiting until marriage with her non-Christian ex and felt most disconnected from God during that relationship

"When I was in that relationship even though I was in love with him I felt the most disconnected from God and so I knew it was bad but I was like all of your feelings are just... ah."

01:27:30
QuoteClaudia (psychologist) explains anxious attachment and why women are attracted to avoidant/exciting men

"We like familiar things... what we find attractive and fun is those exciting adrenaline roller-coaster relationships... the nice guy that wants to go on a date is not clingy — he's treating you right — and that's what we find clingy."

02:03:00
QuoteBrian delivers self-assessment that he would likely be the type to get divorced if he married

"I feel as if like not all of us can be Brandon Tatum... I'm kind of the dude that gets divorced... it's kind of brutal self-assessment and self-reflection."

02:06:36
QuoteBrandon Tatum explains how he manifested his marriage by envisioning it daily while flying alone

"When I would fly on an airplane by myself I would envision me and my wife traveling together... I would already think about what me and my wife are going to do, our children... if you want it and you see it you believe it in your heart you pursue it."

05:23:00
QuoteBrian catches Julia contradicting herself: she messaged before the show complaining about men dating younger women, but herself dated a man 14 years older and has a crush on a 23-year-old

"You said in your pre-show messages 'why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them, look for partners your own age' — you recently dated a guy who was 44, a 14-year age gap."

05:47:33
QuoteBrandon Tatum reveals he has a foot fetish and his wife already knows

"I am a foot person really... and my wife watching and she already know, she already know."

Topics Discussed

00:00:11
Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show with streamlabs/merch/BLM plugs; mentions four scheduled guests bailed the night before claiming a mandatory Sunday landlord meeting. Guests introduce themselves: Karen/Serena (38, Bay Area, dental, bisexual), Eileen (24, ASU engineering student, was on Enamórate), Diana (40, real estate, won't marry), Yasica (27, OnlyFans), Julia (29, DC tech consultant, Christian), Claudia (34, neuropsychologist, 2 cervixes), Kate (24, pastry chef), Brandon Tatum (36, Officer Tatum YouTuber, ex-cop, married).

00:07:00
Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Karen: single, just out of 4-yr lesbian relationship, ex cheated with men, now in a situationship. Eileen: single, last relationship 1.5 months (guy from Enamórate TV show). Diana: single 6 years, proposed to twice, sold both rings, doesn't want to get married, one adult son. Yasica: in 5-year relationship. Julia: single ~2 years, was in love with last boyfriend (non-Christian), last relationship ended Jan 2022. Claudia: single ~4 years, celibate. Kate: not fully captured. Brandon Tatum: happily married, wife changed name to Tatum legally.

00:07:00
Karen's Lesbian Relationship and Infidelity Revelation

Karen reveals her 4-year lesbian relationship ended when she discovered her girlfriend (who claimed to be fully lesbian) had been cheating with multiple men. The ex's former boyfriend (who she described as "obsessed" with her) had been visiting while Karen was out of town — visible on ring camera footage. Karen is bisexual; had prior relationships with men.

00:19:10
Women Attracted to Bad Boys / Exciting Men vs Nice Guys

Diana says she finds most men trash. Discussion of why women reward bad boys and find nice/reliable men boring. Brandon Tatum calls for women to reflect on what they present to attract those men. Brian says men respond to women's incentive structure. Guest from psychologist background (Claudia) explains attachment theory and anxious/avoidant attachment styles as root cause of attraction to exciting/unavailable men. Brian argues women both complain about toxic men and reward them.

00:23:40
Who Should Pay on Dates / Gender Roles at Home

Discussion of who pays on first date, second date, moving forward. Brandon Tatum says he always pays and finds it disrespectful for women to contribute. Brian shares story of girlfriend who was reluctant to prep cucumbers for him while he was injured due to "feminist mind virus." Panel split: most women say guy should pay first date; some open to reciprocating later. Brief discussion of making sandwiches — none find it demeaning.

00:26:40
Women's Careers vs Attractiveness to Men

Discussion of whether women's careers/income make them more attractive to men. Brian argues generally no — men are not looking for providers. Diana lists her accomplishments (real estate, insurance broker license). Brandon Tatum says men look for peace, softness, support — not competing careers. Julia makes point that women must support themselves while single but then conflict with what men want. Claudia/psychologist notes there is value in intellectual compatibility.

00:33:00
Officer Tatum's Views on the Red Pill / Fresh & Fit

Chat donor challenges Brandon Tatum for making "hit pieces" against Fresh & Fit while using similar talking points on a "red pill podcast." Brandon clarifies he is neither red pill nor green pill; his criticism of Fresh & Fit is that they come from a broken/immature place and give harmful advice (e.g., telling a young man to get a side chick). He disagrees with their demeaning approach to women. Brian says Whatever is not necessarily a red pill podcast and he brings on guests with different views.

00:41:40
The Chemistry / Spark Discussion

Julia describes an ex who was "perfect" but lacked chemistry and she couldn't reciprocate his passion. Brandon Tatum argues the spark/click can be overrated and that mature love is practical; he and his wife didn't have a dramatic honeymoon spark. Brian questions why women chase the click when it has no bearing on a partner's long-term quality. Panel discusses whether chemistry can develop over time vs. needing to be instant. Julia mentions a 23-year-old crush she met on a Christian retreat.

01:00:00
Christianity, Waiting Until Marriage, and Body Count Standards

Extended discussion centered on Julia's Christian faith and celibacy standard. Julia explains her conversion at 19, her standard of waiting until marriage, how she violated it with a non-Christian ex (January 2022 breakup), and her now-firm rule to only date practicing Christians. Brian challenges the consistency of a woman's new standard after prior sexual activity — men may feel scammed. Brandon Tatum gives nuanced view: Christian men should appreciate a woman genuinely trying, regardless of past. Discussion of pair bonding, body count as proxy for female selectivity, whether low-BC women bond more intensely.

01:26:40
Hypergamy and Dating Apps — Women Chasing Up

Brian delivers extended monologue on hypergamy and dating app dynamics: top 5-10% of men get most female attention on apps; attractive men will sleep with average women but never commit; average women misread sexual access as being in that man's league; they then reject men actually on their level. Brian uses the "6 can get sex from an 8-9 but never commitment" framework. Panel partially agrees. Julia says the best strategy for a woman is not sleeping with a man quickly if she wants commitment.

02:00:00
Marriage vs Committed Cohabitation

Brian questions whether there is a meaningful difference between legal marriage and a committed monogamous life-partnership. Brian expresses a premonition that he would be the type to get divorced. Brandon Tatum pushes back: negative self-talk is the problem, and Brian should manifest a positive marriage instead. Claudia/panel argue marriage has religious, romantic, and social commitment value. Brian says it's pathetic that vows mean nothing in modern divorce culture.

04:55:00
Age Gap Relationships

Brian catches Julia in a contradiction: she messaged before the show saying "why do men seek to date women way younger — date your equal," but she recently dated a 44-year-old (14-year age gap) and has a crush on a 23-year-old (6 years younger). Julia acknowledges the irony. Brian and Brandon discuss how men are biologically attracted to women at peak fertility/physical attractiveness. Discussion of data showing women view 80-90% of men as unattractive; average age gap at marriage (~2 years). Brandon shares his wife wanted a man 10 years older but ended up with him (5 years younger).

05:18:20
Men Showing Emotions / Vulnerability in Relationships

Julia says she finds men showing emotions healthy and affirming. Brandon Tatum says he would never cry in front of his wife; he processes emotions privately or with male friends. Brian argues women lose attraction when men display weakness/vulnerability. Brandon distinguishes between vulnerability in appropriate settings vs. breaking down in front of a woman. Panel compares showing emotions in war/dangerous situations. Julia shares story of her father crying with her over her struggles being single at 29.

05:24:26
Self-Ratings and Body Count Round

Quick self-ratings round (1-10, looks only). Karen: 8. Eileen: 9. Diana: 7. Yasica: 8. Julia: 6. Claudia: 7 (jokes "13" due to two cervixes). Kate: not clearly captured. Brandon Tatum: not asked (male guest). Body count round: Karen: 5. Diana: 50+. Julia: under 10. Claudia: 3 (less than her age). Eileen: significantly less than 24 (Brian jokes multiply by 3). Yasica: not clearly captured.

Transcript

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03:47:02
Brian Atlashere's the thing say here's the thing right for Speed like for like like a girl with a big fat ass that's great to look out right it's
03:47:11
Brian Atlaswonderful giant titties what whatever but oh God like if a woman has bigger legs than
03:47:21
Brian Atlasme cool right right but it makes the sex a little harder you know what I'm saying that's true it like
03:47:29
Brian Atlasif she's got big true strong legs legs like a race she flexible flexible huh I'm just say okay here's the thing right here's the
03:47:40
Karen (Serena)here's here's one one of the benefits of like a more petite woman let's say oh my God am I you can I do you guys mind if I get a throw them up in the air and then catch them no here's the thing close
03:47:51
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03:48:01
Brian Atlaswhen it comes to speed right M okay I don't we get for examp get what you if if look I'm not if a girl has like really big
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Unknownlegs right and she's on top and I'm trying to like she's on top right let's say I want to rubber CP while she's on top I can't like I can't reach some that's you do from I can't huh no you
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Unknowncan't do you get what that's how you do it from the bottom if she's on top like you can't that yes you can how you doing it it won't go all the way then no but see here's the thing on top backwards or
03:48:36
Brian Atlasno no like she's on top but here's the thing I don't if a girl's on top I'm still a Christian I'm still a Christian if a girl's on top I don't a BRI I I don't like oh God okay I don't like it
03:48:49
Brian Atlasif the girl is like if this is I don't like this if she's like straight up like if a girl's on top I want her chest to chest and I'm okay I'm like pulling her hair and I'm whispering in her ear and
03:49:00
Karen (Serena)like I don't want oh we're so L where's the difficult part want this huh so where's the difficult part and you can't if if if she's like that you can't really go like you can't go you're saying going underneath front she's in
03:49:14
Brian Atlasfront yes you can you have to you have to go around the leg you have to go around the leg if you want access to the around the leg she's chest to chest
03:49:22
Karen (Serena)to you chest to chest her on top how how huh going be you can definitely put your hand down like this am I really going to
03:49:32
Dianalike what grab your grab your show us yeah grab your dolly the point is that doll is that doll yes grab your doll the
03:49:42
Brian Atlaspoint I'm trying to make is if she's got thick thighs beautiful but I can't get my hand around but that's the ISA of her not yours you know like she's not going
03:49:53
Brandon Tatumlittle that's why he doesn't like that time okay all of that stuff going to go out the window when you fall in love yeah yes that see I guess I'm just I'm
03:50:04
Brian Atlasjust speaking on uh all I'm not saying it's not like it's not like I don't want to have sex with a girl because it's harder for me
03:50:13
Karen (Serena)to it does it does present chall some challenges you like easy sex well it would it would be like hold on it would
03:50:22
Karen (Serena)be like me saying I can't date a guy with certain inches because he can't hit it from the back um I could still date a guy with
03:50:33
Brandon Tatumshorter inches if he knows how to work it but sometimes sometimes also that's the thing I want to say something I'm trying to I'm trying to be a good guy
03:50:44
Brandon Tatumyou know I'm just saying adults know this but it's it's different when you if you if you got a big big woman and you ain't got it like that it's a big it's a bigger challenge for you everybody
03:50:57
Brandon Tatumshould I'm I'm talking about big though I'm talking about big thick thick I'm not talking about somebody like like I'm talking about somebody that's skinny like this and skinny like this I'm talking about a big woman versus a
03:51:09
Brian Atlasskinny what they saying yeah there is but I mean they make it happen with e with big man too a big girl and a big man they make it happen all right okay
03:51:18
Brian Atlasso talking my type right um large labia very important if she doesn't have what I was so is that a is that a is that what like what are she's got to have a large
03:51:31
Brian Atlaslabia got to have okay I'm just kind of she doesn't I'm just kidding no you Ser are you kidding or no I have I will say I'm going to agree with you right now big matter BLM
03:51:42
Brian Atlasum that's my nonprofit organization big labia matter BLM um look if women are allowed to have penis siiz preferences I'm allowed to have labia
03:51:52
Brian Atlaspreference yeah it is look it's a but it's a sad State of Affairs that women are shamed if they have a large labia you know you
03:52:03
Brian Atlashear terms getting thrown around wizard sleeve beef curtains Arby's it's not fair I don't like it women should not be shamed for the way they were born in the same way that men if
03:52:15
Brian Atlasthey're not packing they shouldn't be shamed either we should have an Audi is equivalent to micro that's not what I'm saying I'm just saying people shouldn't be shamed for their the way they were
03:52:26
Brian Atlasborn and their genitalia so if a the the the way a woman might be shamed for her genitalia like it's probably going to be either uh it's probably going to be related to her having an Audi so to speak yeah cuz that would be purely as
03:52:39
Brian Atlasaesthetic and the micropenis has a functional element as well as a no but I'm just is this a deal breaker for you what do you mean is that a deal breaker
03:52:46
Brian Atlasno okay I'll date a woman with an any but my DMs are open have an Audi I
03:52:56
Brandon Tatumcan no no no it's I'm trying to understand it is this list something that you actively evaluate when you're dating a girl meaning that you go on to date with a girl and you're like man I
03:53:06
Brandon Tatumhope that these things are the five minutes of conversation I'm asking what her looks like no I'm kidding I'm not saying you ask her I'm saying are you I'm saying are you thinking
03:53:16
Brandon Tatumabout it meaning meaning that you like I really like her but if if if it gets to that point and this don't look like I want it I'm breaking up with her no no no no it's not for me okay it's not a
03:53:27
Brian Atlasdeal breaker because like bomb either way am I being vulgar I don't know like I'm sorry sorry Sor not for
03:53:36
Brian Atlasokay yeah yeah it's like but do I have in the same way with like the height thing do I have a slight preference for it yes I
03:53:48
Karen (Serena)do I'm with you on that because I just went to a swingers club huh and yeah swingers club what's that got
03:53:56
Brian Atlasto do with because I was looking for you like you like a mey you like women right how you get invited to those you were
03:54:04
Dianalooking for a micro penis what huh a what wait tell me this you bodybuilder body bodybuilder what is going on here okay
03:54:17
Brian Atlashere uh we've kind of derailed I'll just wrap up really quick on my and then let's talk personality real quick I like introverted women typically a bit more quiet calm soft spoken maybe a little
03:54:27
Brian Atlasbit shy a little bit nerdy is cool modesty is huge um like I don't like women with big egos who are super vain divas that type of uh brings me peace doesn't quarrel doesn't doesn't party doesn't drink doesn't do drugs
03:54:40
Brian Atlasdoesn't go to bars or clubs low body count that's pretty much it when you say don't drink you mean nothing at all or like don't go get drunk on the weekends if she has like a glass of wine with dinner or like that's fine but cuz I
03:54:53
Brian Atlasdon't really drink much I'll look occasionally maybe very rarely maybe a couple times a year I might have a glass of wine but I never get like totally drunk I don't really drink I don't do
03:55:04
Brian Atlasdrugs I don't party I don't go to bars I don't go to clubs so obviously I want that commonality with a woman and so uh but if she has a glass of wine with dinner that's fine whatever just one
03:55:16
Brian Atlasjust wine uh-huh just wine I guess beer is no just one oh just one I mean it's kind of just more so related to like does she party like
03:55:27
Brian Atlassocial but i' prefer like a girl who doesn't just drink in general I don't but look if she has a if she drinks a bit of wine with I don't
03:55:37
Brian Atlasknow I guess that's okay but would I prefer her to just drink in moderation or not at all yeah cuz I don't I'm not really like that so okay
03:55:49
Brian Atlaslet's try to get through all the things here uh we have just another guy oh sorry this one already came out um my bad here let me do a couple of the chats we have her and Brandon I don't know what you're talking
03:56:01
Brian Atlasabout body count definitely matters homie also most people don't care Mexicana or Mexicans no one gives a missed this part I don't know stop listening to the media also Brandon is
03:56:11
Brandon TatumGrant and alaron alvon alvon or 29 in Columbus giving you Nars he he's is Grant alveron is what he probably me right um in 29th I never patrolled over
03:56:23
Brandon Tatumin the area that's the hood that's I mean all the shootings and stabbings and calls Arizon in Tucson in Tucson 29th Grant alvanon it's crazy over there so okay but I didn't Patrol that area I
03:56:35
Brian AtlasPatrol my own craziness we got grid One Motorsports talk inly toxic panel tonight really I thought it's been pretty good need to buy more stock in meow miix and Prepaid Legal Services it's looking like record growth for both in the near future okay grid One
03:56:48
Brian AtlasMotorsports thank you man appre appreciate it negative we have uh Curtis Leon here thank you man it's coming up here Brian has it harder than most guys
03:56:58
Brian Atlasunfortunately he tracks the ofx porn stars who literally beg him they even try to bribe him with dinner before he gives it up well I've never dated or been with
03:57:09
Brian Atlasan or porn star um um so uh thank you Curtis Leon appreciate it um were you the one that was trying to like get with ilila cuz I'll set you up because I don't want her
03:57:22
Brian Atlasum uh JB exhibit a the girl that was in the article that lives in New York that said she saved herself 150 a week in groceries by going on dates weekly this
03:57:32
Brian Atlasis a lot more common than you think Nick or Nick do you remember that article or look up Nick if you can Google um girl
03:57:41
Brian Atlassaves $150 a week on groceries it's a I think a New York Post article Brandon is talking about what should be Brian is talking about what is um oh that was the other thing I forgot to mention when it
03:57:55
Brian Atlascomes to like my hesitance when it comes to paying for First Dates is certainly not all women um and the majority of women do not do this but there are some women who do what's called a foodie call where they go on a date with a guy
03:58:08
Brian Atlaswithout any genuine interest in him at all and they just want a free meal or free opportunity like free opportunity free experience right so um that is another concern that I think guys have when it comes to paying for the first
03:58:20
Brian Atlasdate is she actually genuinely interested in like getting to know me or does she just want a free meal which to me is like that's a waste of time but I guess some people do well yeah men should take the lead though you know a woman shouldn't be asking you on
03:58:32
Brandon Tatuma date that's kind of weird for her to be actually can we go out I mean a man should take the lead but but also men have to take their their we can't just be whining about this stuff you should be having conversations with these women you trying to date you should you should
03:58:44
Brandon Tatumknow a little bit about them before you go on a invest on that first date you should have conversations I mean people are acting like you swipe one time and you go on a date it's like then you a fool you should be able to communicate
03:58:57
Brandon Tatumand figure out where this woman's head is at learn a little bit about her see if you even want to go on a date there's no reason to go on a date just to get to know people you can get to know them through text calling on the phone if you go on that date you want to make sure that somebody you want to pursue because
03:59:09
Brandon Tatumyou're going to make an investment financially uh I don't know how dudes get tricked unless they're desperate by a woman that's going on a DAT every single night for 50 nights I mean that you shouldn't be that available as a man
03:59:22
Brian Atlasshe shouldn't be able to line you up like that well they're able to they're able Nick were you able to find the article Yep this is it I went on six
03:59:32
Brian Atlasdates a week and didn't have to buy groceries for 2 years and this Vivan 2 ad to Hy
03:59:40
Juliahyperbolizing hyperbolizing the number of she gives uh women finan can you show the uh she wait the number of dates she
03:59:53
Brian Atlaswent on per week uh let's see she bragged that she went on six dates a week between 2016 2018 I didn't buy groceries once probably saved about 150 a week she
04:00:04
Brian Atlascaptioned the post in which she mouthed along okay scroll down a little bit uh more this yeah wait no no no up up up so I can read this stop when they
04:00:15
Brian Atlassay women are bad with money but you used to go on six dates a week to avoid paying for groceries so look this is not the majority of women but you have that woman is unremarkable well
04:00:27
Brian Atlasthere are a couple possible answers Jesus okay that woman is an average looking woman she's unremarkable not particularly physically attractive she's not like a smoke show 10 out of 10 super
04:00:39
Brian Atlasmodel looking woman she's she's going on six dates a week so even average women are a to like this yeah it's all legit so again but is she going on dates with
04:00:51
Brandon Tatumis she going on dates with men that are worth a dime she got some ugly ones in there you got to close that Tab out or something cuz it's triggering audio she must have some ugly ones in there I but I think that's very rare I don't know a woman even have the time you have to be
04:01:03
Brandon Tatuma low life for you to have the time of day to go on dates every night for nights in a row you have nothing going on in your life yep and that so that as a man you should know that you should
04:01:14
Eileenunderstand what do you do for a living what what should what other you to go into the same questions every single day with the different dates you know like
04:01:23
Brian Atlasoh so how old are you and for a date for a free food a free meal no not not all women move that way but there's enough that move that way that guys are
04:01:34
Brian Atlasstarting to want to protect their sanity because they don't want to feel like a sucker when they go on a DAT with this women woman and then they feel they feel used in the same way that like women
04:01:44
Brian Atlasprobably don't want to feel used in a in a sexual way men don't want to feel used in a financial way so anyways we have aul 69 here Brian good to see you out
04:01:55
Brian Atlashere grinding yank your question who can BR bench press more you Brandon or me I can rep 35 lounds on each side probably at least five times good right enjoying the show I'm going to say Brandon here
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Brandon Tatumis probably PBS on each side I don't 70 I think my uh the Bary old he must have put the wrong he must
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Brandon Tatumput the wrong stuff in there uh what's the other one still 30 it's still 35 kg on each side of still lightweight oh that's like enjoy the show keep doing your thing in IV
04:02:28
Brian Atlasthank you a 69 we have Bender the offender Brian what are your thoughts on the situation with the ml pitcher Trevor Bower it is a false accusation case that shows just how some women can be Pure Evil I saw the video um I actually
04:02:40
Brian Atlasreached out to him to see if he wants to be on the show and maybe do a one-on-one interview so uh I didn't fully review the thing I just but uh it sounds to me
04:02:52
Brandon Tatumlike false accusation ruined his career it sounded like I did a video about it earlier I did some research on it it the woman apparently set him up from the very beginning she knew how much his net worth was she got called texting a
04:03:04
Brandon Tatumfriend about how she's going to take advantage of him she leveraged rough you know what I don't know if I can say it on your thing but she leveraged rough play play with the man and she told him hey hit me harder and all this other
04:03:17
Brandon Tatumstuff while they were doing the the stuff and uh she leveraged that to act as if he beat her and then she made these accusations he he he lost his position he had a $100 million contract
04:03:27
Brandon Tatumthey suspended him for two years he was out of the MLB and then it just came out that he was innocent women do this all I'll say this and it's it's very
04:03:36
Brandon Tatumunfortunate when I was a cop that's so 99% of the allegations of misconduct sexually assault and all that stuff were all fake it's it's really unfortunate
04:03:48
Brandon Tatumthat women who actually that stuff happened to they don't report it but some women that do report it they lie about it and in my career I only had two real cases and I had a detective sergeant that was in investigation for
04:04:00
Brandon Tatum10 years or 15 years never had a single legitimate case so it's unfortunate fortunate that some women do things like that it makes the ones who are legitimate victims afraid to say something and make people not believe
04:04:12
Brian Atlasthem this woman is a perfect example she made up a whole scenario that she was beaten and then it ended up being do you do you think that um in your in your estimation what if you had a sign a
04:04:24
Brian Atlaspercentage what percentage of uh reported incidents of uh assault let's say uh are
04:04:36
Brandon Tatumunfounded what do you mean that they're not legitimate or we could get to the bottom of it they're not legitimate of
04:04:43
Brandon Tatumof assaults with SS yeah yeah okay um I would say 80% probably M are probably illegitimate and what what do you think
04:04:54
Brandon Tatumare some of the motivations typically getting caught one girl it was a crazy scenario she was cheating with she was cheating on her boyfriend she climbed up on the second story in the room to cheat boyfriend
04:05:07
Brandon Tatumcome home catch she started claiming that he that she was getting taken advantage of so the boyfriend pulls out a knife the guy puts his hand up cut his finger off and they ended up finding out after she admitted
04:05:18
Brandon Tatumthat no she was cheating and she was afraid that she was getting caught so she made that accusation other young women do it a lot unfortunately their parents find out that they've been in
04:05:29
Brandon Tatuminteracting with men or they slept with somebody and they don't want the baby so they have an opportunity to have the plan Bill given to them for free and the STD check check at the hospital and a lot of them go to the hospital and do
04:05:41
Brandon Tatumthat not knowing that the hospital has a duty to report and so we show up to duty report and they they make up some fake story so that has happened a lot of times or some wom women have some women
04:05:52
Brandon Tatumhave regret so they sleep with a guy and then they make the excuse that oh I was drunk or I don't remember what happened um so they can get the plan B for free and sometimes they're just embarrassed because everybody now know that they
04:06:04
Brandon Tatumslept with this guy at this party and that's been my experience now I did work in a college town so that's mostly the experience that I had was with these young college girls it's unfortunate you know maybe I haven't took taken every
04:06:16
Brandon Tatumcall but I know of a lot of women that get taken advantage of and they never say anything they don't report it officially family knows it happened they the trauma comes up later in life and
04:06:27
Brian Atlasthey never reported it and and it's and I wish that we can reverse that yeah God we have a chat here dark Shinobi it's not that rare they have studies and Survey this is related to the foodie call thing they have studies and surveys showing
04:06:39
Brian Atlasthat one in three women have gone on a foodie call at least once it's gotten so bad they even showed this on Fox News years ago which tends to hide the truth of female nature okay um but where's
04:06:52
Brandon Tatumwhere's where's the male responsibility like I mean dude are you that naive that you can't tell that that girl is using you what what what investment are you putting into it or what investment do you expect from her that's We Men got to
04:07:04
Brian Atlasstart taking some accountability for this but I mean there's definitely uh some women that are very unassuming that you wouldn't know move that way like
04:07:15
Brandon Tatumwomen are very convincing and men are too to a certain degree some men take you on a date and buy you that dinner cuz they want something at the end absolutely AB no you're absolutely right we do it too you know I know a lot of people that do that unfortunately did
04:07:28
Claudia (overflow)you have something quick yeah something very quick I think that also there's like um a like a very large now growing men where I get like a goet that they want to meet and they say I I want to
04:07:39
Claudia (overflow)get a girlfriend or I want to learn how to meet a girl and that's something that I absolutely can't do so they go online or on YouTube and see these men that are not qualified and men are growing weak
04:07:51
Claudia (overflow)weaker or don't know how to talk to girls and that's something that's growing in younger men that I'm starting to see so yeah it's naive and absolutely not how to toic girl getting taken advantage of so got it we have Curtis
04:08:03
Brian AtlasLeon here my bad Brian wasn't trying to offend you I'm not offended man I should have clarified I meant the chick across the table from you the two episodes who was begging you to sleep with her she
04:08:14
Brian Atlaswas oh yeah that was Lila yeah that was Ila the girl who was begging you to sleep with her she was the ex star was that
04:08:22
Brian Atlasilila uh so wait what what was oh um I forgot what your point was Curtis no it's not going to happen like she want I mean first off I think she's trolling
04:08:34
Brian Atlasbut no I don't I she's a porn star I don't want to get with her okay um but it's she's just F she's trolling okay so uh we have a couple
04:08:45
Brian Atlasmore notes Here let me see Julia oh you're I have some notes for you here okay let's see um and I we let's try to get through these quick
04:08:56
Brian Atlasbecause we got to wrap up here pretty soon working in DC you said you had experiences where you've been approached by political figures to engage in certain activities recently at a
04:09:05
Brian Atlascongressional caucus brunch I was approached by the chief of staff of a congressman who was interested in meeting me and given the number to call that provide transportation from event
04:09:17
Juliato undisclosed location yeah so when you say engage in certain activities do you mean I don't know cuz I've never engaged but I'm assuming like like a swingers thing or no I think they just like they
04:09:29
Juliathey'll pick up girls and they'll go to hotels but like so like but they do it they do it like lowkey so they send they're like I'll have a driver come get you and they'll take you here and then
04:09:37
Brian Atlasand all me you know oh okay sweet um you said a congressional was there oh sta of con yeah so it's someone that
04:09:48
Brandon Tatumwork democrat or republican Democrat surprisingly okay really I know I know I just knew I just knew it was going to be a republican but no not because Republicans are uni uniquely worse than Democrats but I figured that you would
04:10:01
Brian Atlasprobably be at a republican event potentially okay or Associated you said when you were an 18 and a freshman that ASU I was told by a girlfriend that since I had a college email I could sign
04:10:12
Juliaup for a sugar baby account for free I didn't know get a sugar wait what I didn't know it was a sugar baby was it seeking or it was like it was like you want you can meet qualified I was naive
04:10:23
JuliaI was a baby so it's like you can meet qualified like men like and you know yeah having yeah compared to like the sticky floors of frat bathrooms that sounded great so I was like sure I'll meet I'll get a I'll meet a nice guy like who's
04:10:36
Brian Atlaslike but but you were aware the term used was sugar baby sugar daddy floor sticky like not fully no okay so you said that on the website what happened
04:10:49
Juliathe guys were asking for revealing photographs correct so if you no so if you were an if you had a if you were a female and you had a call it like an ASU email you got it for free you got access
04:11:00
Juliato the site for free so I thought it was like a dating platform or something and and the men paid for it and so I got on and I was like okay interesting and I noticed that there was like lots of
04:11:12
Juliathere was like you'd start talking and there's some lots of requests for like naked pictures and you're like no no no no no but there was this one guy and he was friendly and he was like Hey can I
04:11:24
Juliahave a picture of your feet and I did not know that that was like a thing so I was like oh yeah I know so I was like sure so I was like yeah that's easy like
04:11:35
Juliawhy not so I sent him a picture my feet I don't how much did he pay for it he didn't pay anything for it what wait what no this is what I'm telling you like I thought I was on here like
04:11:45
Juliamaybe to meet like fans love of my life or something I I know meet the love of your life I I was before or after the foot picture thing she fell in love with
04:11:57
Juliayou this was before like I signed up before before and then he was and he was talking he was like Hey like he was asking me about my shoe size and stuff and I was like oh okay you you wait so for free you sent him pictures of your
04:12:09
JuliaFe yeah because I wasn't signing up for like some prostitution thing like I was not expecting any money transaction but what so you actually wanted to date him potentially I was cuz I was told thing
04:12:22
Juliadidn't throw you off a little bit I was like oh that's odd like she's open I wouldn't say I would say more naive okay sure naive I had no idea you sent him three pictures of your
04:12:32
Brian Atlasfeet he then said that uh you qualified and then told you he would pay you a th000 to go to his house no 5,000 oh 5,000 should I put a 5,000 to go he
04:12:43
Juliawould send a car pick me up for my dorm and he would send a car and bring me and he was like I have all these high heels did go and he was like I would like you
04:12:54
Juliato walk on my back in high heels oh that's crazy did you do it no of course I was he was like I'll give you 5,000 I was like oh my gosh no yeah know I was terrified does he does he still
04:13:05
Brandon Tatumex like like this sounds like the beginning of a of a horror movie give me that money I'm done this how I end up in a basement somebody's weird let me let me just say this I know it's weird I want to defend
04:13:15
Brandon Tatumall the men out there that like feet um so it's not weird for men to like feet that dude has got something going on yeah now let me let me say this is this is this a whatever official Brandon
04:13:27
Brandon TatumTatum do you have I am a foot person really and my wife watching and she know she already know you try I love feet the first thing the first thing that I look
04:13:36
Brandon Tatumat on a woman is her feet wa the very first thing because I one one thing is I like feet but also it says a lot about a woman if she take care of her hands and
04:13:47
Brandon Tatumher feet oh if you see a woman with chipped up no offense to you ladies you see a woman with chipped up fingernails and chipped toes and they don't take care of of the little things it in my opinion I believe that they're not
04:14:00
Brandon Tatumtaking care of other stuff that's just me do you get like do you get like like it it's a on for you Fe yes 100% like you get bricked up sorry sorry I'm being
04:14:11
Brandon TatumV I'm sorry sorry sorry I'm I'm feet are very attractive feet are very attractive when I would date a woman that would that I'm being honest that could be a
04:14:21
Brandon Tatumdeal breaker really I dated a young lady okay she was incredibly gorgeous when I was in college beautiful model she was a dancer and we I liked her at first yeah
04:14:32
Brandon Tatumand then she I I want to see what her feet look like okay right cuz the rest of her body was almost perfect okay then she said hey I have dancers feed and I was like there's it's not much at this
04:14:44
Brandon Tatumpoint it's not much your feet can look like that's going to really turn me off completely interesting but she pulled her socks off and the knuckles not all dancers not but she had
04:14:56
Brandon Tatummade mention to it and and them knuckles her big toe was bigger than mine it was Ash and it had Knuckles on it and I said oh man I can't I can't make that fit
04:15:05
Brandon Tatumlike valerina yeah she used to do it up on them like that and the knuckles were rough what about socks can't you socks yeah that's how I like when she just
04:15:17
Brandon Tatumkept the socks on but I was young I was 18 I still liked feet but I was 18 and that was a deal break at the time okay but it's a real thing like there's guys out here that really believe that and and they're not weird like that guys I
04:15:28
Brian Atlasgot my Leia thing you got your foot thing it is what it is yeah and girls got their height thing and other things everybody's got their I look at feed as well on the
04:15:37
Eileenguys it's not a deal Burger is it uh see you just like me I mean just on the other side have a food fetish or anything it's just like oh it's good that you have pretty feed but why are
04:15:50
Eileenyou having those feed like you know like if it's like this like I'm not dating this guy
04:15:59
Brian Atlaswith so wait just to bring it back to you really quick uh so okay the the foot thing 5,000 you didn't I did not do it for the record
04:16:08
Brian Atlaswait this was so you're 29 now you said you're 18 so this was back in 2011 2013 oh 2013 so this is like 10
04:16:19
Brian Atlasyears ago is maybe I was 19 this is this is kind of like this is almost before the rise of like this is way more common now but even back then I feel
04:16:28
Brian Atlaslike it was much less common so before the rise of social media Etc um I'm bro that's that's some like life on easy mode not going to lie like there's
04:16:39
Brian Atlasno dudes out here who have like women oh let me pay you 5,000 bucks like 18-year-old college guys 5,000 bucks to
04:16:48
Brian Atlaslike for sure do some weird like we would do it he have murder this I I feel like I mean when I was 18 19 20 life on easy mode kind of
04:17:00
Eileenlike mured yeah but like that's some life on easy mode life on easy mode yeah but what does it really C to do that I know does it show more about my character that I didn't do it no but I'm saying you have like there
04:17:12
Brian Atlasare women who take advantage of that we've have women on the show who they'll have sugar daddies who they never even meet and these guys will like be sending them thousands of dollars of
04:17:22
Brian Atlasmoney so y'all kind look sure but we have an exporation dat I put some blame on men we'll get to that I put some blame on men these guys are up
04:17:32
Brian Atlasthe dating Marketplace for other dudes but you do get get some benefits as ladies like
04:17:41
Eileenabsolutely you want date a girl that uh sells like um her buddy or whatever but I I wouldn't yeah you wouldn't I mean look Never Say Never perhaps there's
04:17:51
Brian Atlassome girl out there who does like tasteful lingerie stuff it's not it's not optimal and I've never dated a woman
04:17:59
Eileenwho does only fans is it but what may she sells speed Peaks Fe feet Fe what if she walks on people's backs
04:18:11
TTS Readerand he you have an accent yeah oh I don't I don't know you well feet Peak Peaks you sound like Borat
04:18:22
TTS Reader$99 AA girl across from Brian probably got bunions and Barnacles growing on your feet don't don't say that Bender the offender she's probably got her it's
04:18:33
Brian Atlasprobably a rainbow and magic show who what the I'm sorry I'm sorry am or do you sell fpix is out you're asking for
04:18:42
Brian Atlasyourself no are you asking you sell did you sell Fe piic no oh what Oh I thought you were like trying to she's giving you
04:18:50
Eileenhypothe okay what huh I don't know I'm so lost right now no I'm SI what's up I said
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Eileenwould it be a deal breaker for you if a girl was selling feet I'm saying like like will you date a girl I think that's Unbecoming of a of a lady of lady
04:19:13
Brandon Tatumfriends exactly that's easier to get over if if it's just feet and not the body I wouldn't I think it's I think it's uncoming no I wouldn't date a woman that does that because if you willing to do that it's other thing do you think my
04:19:24
Juliastory is forgivable you walk on his back she well no well I didn't walk on his back but I didn't know I sent a picture of my feet though it is out it might be out there no no that's forgivable I mean
04:19:36
Brandon Tatumyou're facing money no my face is not in no it's just like my right I mean you could you could with your face not in it I'm not saying it's right I would advise women to never do this but if your face
04:19:46
Brandon Tatumis not in it it can be you can overcome that if your face is in it but still if your face is in it it could be trouble it could be problematic so you've sent out Fe piics is that where you you want to know if I would date a woman who's
04:19:58
Brian Atlassent out Fe piic because you're kind of feeling me right now that's what's up you you are in love with me am I right am I I I kind of I think
04:20:09
Unknownit's the other one oh I'm yes I think it's mutual oh no show me your feet just he has pretty feet
04:20:19
Brandon Tatumhonestly oh that's cheap I don't I have no idea can charge feet okay all right just AE okay um
04:20:29
Brian Atlassee you know what's funny there's a website called there's a website called Wiki sure pull it up called Wiki feet and these weird oh he already has it
04:20:39
Brian Atlasgoing bro they made a profile about they just find photos of me where my feet are visible oh my God wait wait scroll up that one scroll up to the
04:20:50
Brian Atlastop these like and I have a really good rating on wik feed scroll all the way to the top Nick I've got a uh1 4.14 out of five stars on I this is not me posting
04:21:01
Juliathis this is some weirdo who wait all of those is you you've gotten four total votes yeah that's just weird as fun some weird dude out there is maybe
04:21:13
Brian Atlasit's a chick I don't know I guess they do maybe wait can we maybe should we look for you might have a wik feed AR I'm going get a bad score on wik feet you might have a wik fe do you have any like
04:21:27
Brandon Tatumyou were doing a vlog one day and you wearing sandals no I don't think my feet has ever been on the internet okay cuz I got okay I'm just saying I don't know I took a picture what time with my kid and my feet was in it I was in the pool you might have a
04:21:39
Brandon Tatumwicked feet article dude my it ain't good okay okay no there ain't nobody got wigg feat of
04:21:50
Unknown[Applause] me holy dude I need to count of police dude is this did you you guys create
04:22:01
Brandon Tatumthis did you guys create this I'm not going to lie in the bag no bro I'm met the dance I'm met the Dan SE in in Israel floating in the thing and I had a
04:22:12
Unknownpicture so I can't go under the water so my feet that's funny this was not planned not god dude somebody's a weirdo CRA they got that foot picture that's
04:22:24
Brandon Tatumcrazy I'm telling you I'm telling you they be these feet people it's just men on there crazy huh is it just they just
04:22:32
Brian Atlasdo of they do that a Maro Robbie has men and women wik feet wik feet wi feet how you find I Googled I Googled
04:22:43
Brian Atlasmyself and I was looking at the images and then I saw the URL and it was wik feet I was like the um that's creep quick
04:22:56
Juliaunlock honestly if you have he's worried right now he's so you got to look into that know I hope my wife feed in on higher right ratio higher rating than
04:23:07
Brandon Tatumyou my God I have a better rating than him yeah you have a 4.4 see hey I hope somebody go R my w feets bro that's okay um I thought I had good
04:23:19
Brian Atlasfeet too what the you do you have four you had way more pictures of me man I only had one picture so um okay so really quick just on her thing have any of you had this an experience like this
04:23:29
Brian Atlaswith a guy where I'll give you $5,000 to do some weird have you have you had that before I used to be a sugar baby sugar baby have you had a lot of I went out with a few of them few of them um
04:23:41
Brian Atlaswhat's like the uh from each one let's just say the top three how much money total do you think you made from the top three each individually so 10,000 from
04:23:51
Karen (Serena)one 5,000 from another no not I it wasn't that great that's why I'm that's why she not did you to do anything with them how much how much um there was one
04:24:02
Karen (Serena)I I used to get paid like I literally started getting like paid 500 just to go on a date life on easy mode okay yeah
04:24:11
Karen (Serena)and then I got paid 2,000 once to go out to have drinks with a man who came who flew out from Ohio and um it was easy
04:24:22
Karen (Serena)for yes I did do something with him um because it was really easy cuz he was a younger white man and he was hot so word um what about you should ever
04:24:35
Eileenhad a I mean the weirdest thing it was that it was at this party that I got invited and it was like with
04:24:47
Eileenrich people and they all selected a caddy of the girls that we were there and it's like a swingers thing or no okay no it was they
04:24:57
Eileenwere playing like it's it was a Reach people party and they selected a girl and they were like okay well you got you have to help me like you're a caddy like let's help the game it was like bot ball
04:25:09
Eileenand we were helping and they were like okay like whatever and then all of a sudden he's like you know what's the price right and I was like price he's
04:25:17
Eileenlike yeah the um the girl that helps the most so there is more friendly gets um $3,000 and then there's a second one and
04:25:28
Brian Atlasthe third place you know when you say friendly do you mean no it wasn't nothing like sexual or nothing thing oh so when you said friendly just I was like oh is this just like serving drinks
04:25:41
Brian Atlasand stuff for them that's not really what I was talking about what about you ever had like a send Fe pics for like 500 bucks that type of sugar sugar sugar baby
04:25:53
Yasicasugar daddy no okay what about you probably cuz you have o right there's probably guys who want to be your sugar daddy right yeah but not feet Peaks I haven't oh well it just it could
04:26:04
Yasicabe anything oh um a request would be with jeans on black jeans huh
04:26:13
Brian Atlasokay uh besides that one situation how much they going to pay you uh 1,000 wow I have some cute black
04:26:21
Claudia (overflow)jeans um just that one thing that one what about you a DM a DM from an uh um an agent asked me if if I knew big three
04:26:32
Brian Atlasand he told me for 40,000 um um I knew it was can you scoot the mic closer towards you DM scoot scoot the mic so it's like at the edge of the table DM um one of the I'll just
04:26:43
Claudia (overflow)see the actor was from Greece and he was his agent and I said no because I was scared of getting raped so he's going to give you 40,000 40,000 to do what I was
04:26:53
Claudia (overflow)I was like 24 to have sex with him but I was scared of being raped 40,000 she wasn't here one okay what
04:27:03
Claudiaabout you um yeah people have tried to but money's not worth it okay damn I feel cheap nobody ever ask me to do that for some money well now that you're on
04:27:14
Brian Atlaswik feed never I've never had an offer from a woman like a legitimate valid offer from a woman actually let me think about this hold on Leila make him an
04:27:24
Brian Atlasoffer I'm pass on um let's see you said I would love to be on an episode with Chase because I agree with his Christian views but I think he misses the point when he talks about wanting a girl with a low body count I think the important
04:27:36
Brian Atlasthing is a reformed Spirit even if you may have made mistakes in the past oh that's me yeah I thought you pointed at her I agree that's that's what you um I think the important thing is a
04:27:47
Brian Atlasreform Spirit um so you disagree like that men should overlook women who have a high body count um no it's more and we talked about it a little at the beginning yeah it's like the idea of like just because
04:28:00
Juliayou have a low body to count doesn't mean that you've like exercise you're exercising or practicing the virtue of purity okay I see what you're saying so like are you pure yeah technically you're pure but like the great example
04:28:10
Juliais that Pastor that only fan pastor's wife turned only fans model that you had so like she got married when she was really young she was a Christian she was all like well behaved and and pure and
04:28:23
Julianow she and then 10 years later she divorced her husband she has three kids and she's an only fans model and an interesting character to say the least and so it's like that's when you're saying like you want to date a younger woman
04:28:36
Brian Atlasbecause she's pure you're not actually guaranteeing that she's thought through her values or what she believes in oh okay so you're tying it into uh dating somebody who's younger too I see what you're saying by the way did you ever hear from the guy the you texted the guy
04:28:48
Brian Atlasright did you hear from him no okay he disappeared rip okay so trust me uh you wanted to touch on sex before
04:28:59
Brian Atlasmarriage age of women as indicator of value okay so sex before marriage I think I mean I don't yeah you're waiting till marriage correct
04:29:10
Brian Atlasyeah do you but do you think realistically speaking because there's been some slip UPS in the past do you think like you're going to slip up again no I
04:29:22
Juliadon't I've been baptized by the Holy Spirit since then FYI and then okay so there's more power helping me to not do that and I think I have a renewed view
04:29:34
Juliaon like why I don't want to do do it like uh it was more with my ex I didn't really have that established like why I really believe in it it was just like this is what we do as Christians okay
04:29:45
Brian Atlasand now I really believe it cuz the breakup would have been way easier for sure to your point and then this is uh I've watched Men on the show harp on the importance of a low body count in finding a young woman I don't agree with
04:29:56
Brian Atlassome of the views expressed talking about how a 21-year-old woman is higher value than a 31-year-old woman um you said I think it discredits women who spent the majority of their 20s in
04:30:08
Brian Atlasschool or devoted to their career um yeah I don't think I don't make it a point to say I typically don't use the terminology high value for men
04:30:18
Brian Atlasor women I typically avoid using that terminology I don't think it's usually helpful for describing things but um
04:30:29
Juliaso you're saying so I I watch this and it's it sounds I think as a woman and it'd be interesting to hear what the other ladies think I always assume that
04:30:42
Juliawhen I get married like I'm marrying I'm finding a partner I'm finding a teammate like I'm finding my person that's I'm going to like in in Genesis it's Eve is is azir and it literally uses it's like
04:30:54
Juliathe word helper but like God is also described as that frequently throughout the Old Testament and it's like we wouldn't think God is subordinate to us so anyway so it's like you're finding the person that's going to like maximize you you don't want to be you don't you
04:31:07
Brian Atlasdon't want to be submissive to your husband no I do I do I do I do so do you yes okay just wait wa wa well no just
04:31:18
Juliabecause you said well the you you referenced the verse and how Eve so like the partner like the match like he she was his she was his perfect compliment
04:31:29
Juliain every way and so I always assume that men are subordinate sorry I guess it's been used in that word has been used to say that women are supposed have to be like sub
04:31:42
Juliasubordinate in a way that's very misogynistic and not like but and I just used it to say like it doesn't mean lesser than because we wouldn't describe God as lesser than even though that word
04:31:54
Brandon Tatumis also used to describe him okay I'm not familiar with the verse so I can't really yeah I know exactly you're talking about I saw a video where a woman went through and explained it it it simply what it means is that the
04:32:03
Brandon Tatumvalue of being has helped me his helper that actual Hebrew word is an incredibly powerful word that is invaluable to the growth and success of Adam it was as if
04:32:16
Brandon Tatumthe same way God treats Us in his support and help for us as Humanity that same virtue was pinned upon Eve to be that person for Adam so she was incredibly impactful just as necessary
04:32:27
Brandon Tatumas he was so she wasn't in fact not equal to him she was equal to him but they they had a different role so her value wasn't diminished because she was to help me exactly she's not and Eve is also not described as the vessel of
04:32:40
JuliaAdam's Legacy you know what I mean she's not a vessel for him just to like reproduce and I've been watching the and so all my life I'm like oh cool that's what I want I'm going to find my partner and it's going to be great and I thought that's a men think too and then I've
04:32:52
Juliastarted watching these things and some and I'll or I'll watch like Pearl and I'm just like oh my gosh and it sounds like men just want a woman to be either like a mother they just want her to like create like to raise their
04:33:04
Juliachildren and that's like it doesn't sound like they're wanting a partner and especially when these men are talking about wanting women that are so much younger than them like they're not looking for
04:33:15
Juliasomeone that's their equal that is sees things like that that's kind of on the same page with them that's developed their values in the same way they want someone like Purity if you want someone younger because she's probably more pure
04:33:27
Juliaand she's had like fewer guys running through her but but she's not actually she's not cultivating Purity and and then how is she actually going to be
04:33:36
Brian Atlasyour your equal match like it doesn't well I mean there's there's a whole and okay so there's a couple points here you are you linking it to cuz you're kind of
04:33:47
Julialinking it to Career a little bit well so I think it's hard because women we were told the age group of like 27 to 35 is kind of rough cuz we were told like we
04:33:58
Juliawere hit with all these things like rise of social media that's when the dating app started women were told to like go get your money get your back like get your education that's what that's what is good for you um the the feminist mind
04:34:11
Juliavirus the feminist movement that was like when we that was when The Narrative of like men suck I think started going around like for that like we just got hit with it all these rise of lgtbq Rights so like it's like you can go do
04:34:23
Juliathat it's trans movement all these things right we kind of got hit with and so fewer people are getting married in that age group and then the men that are like my age want to want a woman that's
04:34:33
Brandon Tatumlike 21 which is unrealistic I I think that what's happening is these young men who are not mature are just saying things that sound cute on the internet
04:34:44
Brandon Tatumthey want low body count and that mean age you you also want a woman that's ready and mature a lot of men are not mature in their 20s you you want to be 40 and date a 20 year old y'all not even on the same page that woman don't have
04:34:56
Brandon Tatumlife experience I I would argue every woman in here will say man I was different in my 20s I was way different in my 20s now I'm more mature and so most should not be trying to go for a
04:35:07
Brandon Tatumyounger woman just off because her body count that that exactly that's not that's not realistic you should you should consider the body count but you do want a mature woman because people you can't get too caught up on a body count man I'm telling you you'll never
04:35:19
Brandon Tatumknow anyone I get a little caught up on it you'll never know anyway you never know unless unless you actually knew they're not going to tell C up if some some women some women may have had a had a had a point in time in college where
04:35:32
Brandon Tatumthey were real nasty and they moved and they moved theyve I'm saying they they moved on and they want to get back with their life and it it's been decades since they've been that way join the nunnery
04:35:45
Brandon Tatumand they're not going to ever tell you the truth he join the NY join the Brian join the N here go it's over let's let's say this let's say this can but but what about men though what about men can can
04:35:56
Juliaa man have too much of a body count so much can he watch porn every day and be healthy no well I think it's a little different though but it's a little different okay um so do
04:36:09
Brian Atlasyou think young men can just run it up as much as they care to and then later in life they can stop I don't think like I don't think it's uh good for men to just run through a bunch of chicks I don't I don't think that's a good thing
04:36:21
Brian Atlasit's certainly not and I again same thing with the high value low value terms I don't like using the terms Alpha and beta I don't like these terms but just for the sake of this conversation it's certainly not Alpha to go and bang
04:36:34
Brian Atlasa bunch of chicks and get herpes it's not Alpha to bring your future wife STDs that's not Alpha so uh that's not high value so and obviously whether you're a man or
04:36:47
Brian Atlasa woman the more sexual partners you have you're increasing your risk of getting an estd herpes Etc it's not like that's not a w to like a bunch of
04:36:57
Brandon Tatumchicks and then get herpes you rolled the dice you got the herpes like or or be damaged as a man sure where you can never take
04:37:06
Brian Atlasyou looking for the but I would say though to your point about age and stuff and I do think that there is an there's
04:37:15
Brian Atlasa evolutionary component to men preferring younger women and I think it comes down to uh one younger women are more fertile so if you're a 40-year-old
04:37:27
Brian Atlasman and you're who you going to date someone between the ages of 30 to 40 that and you want to have kids for example you might start looking towards
04:37:36
Brian Atlaswomen who are 25 to 29 they're a better bet for fertility and I think that's in that's just logically intellectually makes a lot of sense but also just from
04:37:46
Brian Atlasa purely evoy angle uh and just a evolutionary biological reality women who after the age of 35 they get into highrisk pregnan pregnancy
04:37:59
Brian Atlasterritory it becomes harder to get pregnant I'm not saying it's impossible you can be in your 40s and get pregnant but if you're a man who's got his life together and you're looking to start a family it is probably a better bet
04:38:11
Brian Atlasfertility speaking to go for a younger women and it's just Evolution too young huh not too young I'm okay when I say the word woman I am talking about
04:38:22
Brian Atlasadults are you trying to say like minors well you just said the younger so I just younger women so I just we're talking early we're talking about adult relationships here I'm not but did what
04:38:35
Brian Atlasdo you think I'm talking about 11y what the I'm talking about adult relationships no you just said younger so I thought the term was like the younger you go I'm assuming 18 up we talking about adult relationships I'm
04:38:48
Brandon Tatumnot talking about no but you make an incredible point because I do think men when they get older they do have to evaluate that and and you know you're a man in your 40s and you never been married you don't have any
04:38:58
Brandon Tatumkids you know that you probably in in a weird territory yourself but I do think men like that do want younger women and it makes sense to right you can't have a woman in or 40s when when you 40 cuz y'all ain't going to have no kids if
04:39:11
Brandon Tatumthat's what you aspire to be um but I do think these young guys are they're they're they're in their 30s or late 20s and they're acting like a woman who's 31
04:39:20
Brandon Tatumis just dead meat and I feel like that that's that's crazy to me to believe that because these young men are not ready until they're in their late 20s or 30s like I told you yeah you can you can
04:39:34
Brandon Tatumbeat your chest and say say oh I'm I'm I'm ready for women I'm dating and you and your mama still pay your phone bill all about that those things young men need to really be focused on developing and becoming a a man that can provide
04:39:45
Brandon Tatumfirst and then start dating and and sometimes women who have gone through the phase of being confused about who they are and dating they come out of that when they go into their late 20s
04:39:58
Brandon Tatumand 30s and I think that's where women are probably Prime is right around that area when they're too young man they lost they could they they don't know what they want to be 100% and you don't want to be with a woman like that that's how you get divorces yeah and there's
04:40:10
Juliaactually a divorce rate no no um to that point when you marry someone five years there's a 5year age grp that in increases the chance of Divorce by like 20% and when there's a 10-year age Gap
04:40:22
Brian Atlasit increases chance of Divorce by 40% look you're you're 29 right I'm 29 29 right um how do I and apparently geriatric to
04:40:32
Brian Atlasa lot of these people watching look the look it's just the reality is is that across multiple age cohorts of men like in terms of just what men find the most physically attractive it's women who are
04:40:45
Brian Atlaslike 21 at any age most men purely physical attractiveness it's 21 whereas women it tends to match up more so with a woman
04:40:56
Brian Atlaswho's 29 is going to find a guy who's 30 like Peak Physical attractiveness but men as they continue to age they continue to find women who are like 20
04:41:06
Brian Atlasto 22 within the just that's a constant when it comes to physical attractiveness there's probably an evolutionary basis for that because younger women are more fertile but there was a study that
04:41:17
Juliashowed that men prefer women's like as they get older their attractiveness to men it it goes up faster like they prefer men that are closer to their age but men did too it
04:41:30
Juliawas much less sign like for woman for a woman every year she aged she liked she found people that were like it was like 5 years plus one year
04:41:42
Juliathat that get so like people six years less than uh younger so you're you're 29 right so let me think okay I'm 34 I can't think of the Ben what's the
04:41:54
Brian Atlasbenefit of dating a 34 yearold instead of a 24 year old cuz I find for me no no for me because I find a woman who's 24 much more physically attractive than a woman than 34 it depends on the woman
04:42:04
Brandon Tatumright a 34 year old woman they're going to get triggered a 34 year woman that's that take care of herself and that's healthy and active and stuff she can look just as good as a younger woman this AOW you don't think so are you
04:42:16
Brandon Tatumsaying it because I'm 24 no just okay okay just these these little like like down here when I drove in today these are little kids out here
04:42:28
Brandon Tatumthere's way they're party chicks though they're party chicks I don't want a party chick but but but the their their bodies and their shape and and what they look like is they're very physically 20y old they're not ATT to me they're not attractive these are little how they
04:42:41
Brandon Tatumdress no because these are they look like little kids no they do they're still in their team they look like little immature women that's not developed they they're just like little kids out there when I see them I see