The Officer Tatum DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #107

Date: 2023-10-09

Duration: 5h 53m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (Dating Talk #217)>

KKaren (DT217)>

EEileen (DT217)>

DDiana (DT217)>

YYasica (DT217)>

JJulia (DT217)>

CClaudia (DT217)>

BBrandon Tatum >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brandon Tatum(guest)

SPEAKER_02Claudia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Eileen(guest)

SPEAKER_04Yasica(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_09Claudia (overflow)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Diana(guest)

SPEAKER_12Karen (Serena)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteKaren reveals she just ended a 4-year lesbian relationship and discovered her "lesbian" girlfriend had been cheating with multiple men

“"I just recently found out that I was cheated on with a man... she cheated on me with a man... supposedly multiple men."”

QuoteClaudia discloses she was born with two cervixes (uterine didelphys) and jokes her self-rating should be doubled to 13

“"I would rate myself as a seven but I was born with two uteruses so I count it twice... I have two cervixes, if I had a husband he could touch them both."”

ControversyBrandon Tatum criticizes Fresh & Fit for giving immature advice to young men, saying they come from a broken place

“"I think they come from a very immature place, they come from a very broken place... the guy gave this young man such horrible advice about a woman and told him to go get a side chick."”

QuoteBrian shares story of asking injured girlfriend to prep cucumbers — she did it begrudgingly due to feminist programming, which led to their breakup

“"I had some cucumbers in the fridge, you think you could like prep them for me... I could tell by the chops on the cucumbers it was super begrudging... and that's when I knew."”

QuoteJulia admits she compromised her Christian standard of waiting until marriage with her non-Christian ex and felt most disconnected from God during that relationship

“"When I was in that relationship even though I was in love with him I felt the most disconnected from God and so I knew it was bad but I was like all of your feelings are just... ah."”

QuoteClaudia (psychologist) explains anxious attachment and why women are attracted to avoidant/exciting men

“"We like familiar things... what we find attractive and fun is those exciting adrenaline roller-coaster relationships... the nice guy that wants to go on a date is not clingy — he's treating you right — and that's what we find clingy."”

QuoteBrian delivers self-assessment that he would likely be the type to get divorced if he married

“"I feel as if like not all of us can be Brandon Tatum... I'm kind of the dude that gets divorced... it's kind of brutal self-assessment and self-reflection."”

QuoteBrandon Tatum explains how he manifested his marriage by envisioning it daily while flying alone

“"When I would fly on an airplane by myself I would envision me and my wife traveling together... I would already think about what me and my wife are going to do, our children... if you want it and you see it you believe it in your heart you pursue it."”

QuoteBrian catches Julia contradicting herself: she messaged before the show complaining about men dating younger women, but herself dated a man 14 years older and has a crush on a 23-year-old

“"You said in your pre-show messages 'why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them, look for partners your own age' — you recently dated a guy who was 44, a 14-year age gap."”

QuoteBrandon Tatum reveals he has a foot fetish and his wife already knows

“"I am a foot person really... and my wife watching and she already know, she already know."”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show with streamlabs/merch/BLM plugs; mentions four scheduled guests bailed the night before claiming a mandatory Sunday landlord meeting. Guests introduce themselves: Karen/Serena (38, Bay Area, dental, bisexual), Eileen (24, ASU engineering student, was on Enamórate), Diana (40, real estate, won't marry), Yasica (27, OnlyFans), Julia (29, DC tech consultant, Christian), Claudia (34, neuropsychologist, 2 cervixes), Kate (24, pastry chef), Brandon Tatum (36, Officer Tatum YouTuber, ex-cop, married).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Karen: single, just out of 4-yr lesbian relationship, ex cheated with men, now in a situationship. Eileen: single, last relationship 1.5 months (guy from Enamórate TV show). Diana: single 6 years, proposed to twice, sold both rings, doesn't want to get married, one adult son. Yasica: in 5-year relationship. Julia: single ~2 years, was in love with last boyfriend (non-Christian), last relationship ended Jan 2022. Claudia: single ~4 years, celibate. Kate: not fully captured. Brandon Tatum: happily married, wife changed name to Tatum legally.

Karen's Lesbian Relationship and Infidelity Revelation

Karen reveals her 4-year lesbian relationship ended when she discovered her girlfriend (who claimed to be fully lesbian) had been cheating with multiple men. The ex's former boyfriend (who she described as "obsessed" with her) had been visiting while Karen was out of town — visible on ring camera footage. Karen is bisexual; had prior relationships with men.

Women Attracted to Bad Boys / Exciting Men vs Nice Guys

Diana says she finds most men trash. Discussion of why women reward bad boys and find nice/reliable men boring. Brandon Tatum calls for women to reflect on what they present to attract those men. Brian says men respond to women's incentive structure. Guest from psychologist background (Claudia) explains attachment theory and anxious/avoidant attachment styles as root cause of attraction to exciting/unavailable men. Brian argues women both complain about toxic men and reward them.

Who Should Pay on Dates / Gender Roles at Home

Discussion of who pays on first date, second date, moving forward. Brandon Tatum says he always pays and finds it disrespectful for women to contribute. Brian shares story of girlfriend who was reluctant to prep cucumbers for him while he was injured due to "feminist mind virus." Panel split: most women say guy should pay first date; some open to reciprocating later. Brief discussion of making sandwiches — none find it demeaning.

Women's Careers vs Attractiveness to Men

Discussion of whether women's careers/income make them more attractive to men. Brian argues generally no — men are not looking for providers. Diana lists her accomplishments (real estate, insurance broker license). Brandon Tatum says men look for peace, softness, support — not competing careers. Julia makes point that women must support themselves while single but then conflict with what men want. Claudia/psychologist notes there is value in intellectual compatibility.

Officer Tatum's Views on the Red Pill / Fresh & Fit

Chat donor challenges Brandon Tatum for making "hit pieces" against Fresh & Fit while using similar talking points on a "red pill podcast." Brandon clarifies he is neither red pill nor green pill; his criticism of Fresh & Fit is that they come from a broken/immature place and give harmful advice (e.g., telling a young man to get a side chick). He disagrees with their demeaning approach to women. Brian says Whatever is not necessarily a red pill podcast and he brings on guests with different views.

The Chemistry / Spark Discussion

Julia describes an ex who was "perfect" but lacked chemistry and she couldn't reciprocate his passion. Brandon Tatum argues the spark/click can be overrated and that mature love is practical; he and his wife didn't have a dramatic honeymoon spark. Brian questions why women chase the click when it has no bearing on a partner's long-term quality. Panel discusses whether chemistry can develop over time vs. needing to be instant. Julia mentions a 23-year-old crush she met on a Christian retreat.

Christianity, Waiting Until Marriage, and Body Count Standards

Extended discussion centered on Julia's Christian faith and celibacy standard. Julia explains her conversion at 19, her standard of waiting until marriage, how she violated it with a non-Christian ex (January 2022 breakup), and her now-firm rule to only date practicing Christians. Brian challenges the consistency of a woman's new standard after prior sexual activity — men may feel scammed. Brandon Tatum gives nuanced view: Christian men should appreciate a woman genuinely trying, regardless of past. Discussion of pair bonding, body count as proxy for female selectivity, whether low-BC women bond more intensely.

Hypergamy and Dating Apps — Women Chasing Up

Brian delivers extended monologue on hypergamy and dating app dynamics: top 5-10% of men get most female attention on apps; attractive men will sleep with average women but never commit; average women misread sexual access as being in that man's league; they then reject men actually on their level. Brian uses the "6 can get sex from an 8-9 but never commitment" framework. Panel partially agrees. Julia says the best strategy for a woman is not sleeping with a man quickly if she wants commitment.

Marriage vs Committed Cohabitation

Brian questions whether there is a meaningful difference between legal marriage and a committed monogamous life-partnership. Brian expresses a premonition that he would be the type to get divorced. Brandon Tatum pushes back: negative self-talk is the problem, and Brian should manifest a positive marriage instead. Claudia/panel argue marriage has religious, romantic, and social commitment value. Brian says it's pathetic that vows mean nothing in modern divorce culture.

Age Gap Relationships

Brian catches Julia in a contradiction: she messaged before the show saying "why do men seek to date women way younger — date your equal," but she recently dated a 44-year-old (14-year age gap) and has a crush on a 23-year-old (6 years younger). Julia acknowledges the irony. Brian and Brandon discuss how men are biologically attracted to women at peak fertility/physical attractiveness. Discussion of data showing women view 80-90% of men as unattractive; average age gap at marriage (~2 years). Brandon shares his wife wanted a man 10 years older but ended up with him (5 years younger).

Men Showing Emotions / Vulnerability in Relationships

Julia says she finds men showing emotions healthy and affirming. Brandon Tatum says he would never cry in front of his wife; he processes emotions privately or with male friends. Brian argues women lose attraction when men display weakness/vulnerability. Brandon distinguishes between vulnerability in appropriate settings vs. breaking down in front of a woman. Panel compares showing emotions in war/dangerous situations. Julia shares story of her father crying with her over her struggles being single at 29.

Self-Ratings and Body Count Round

Quick self-ratings round (1-10, looks only). Karen: 8. Eileen: 9. Diana: 7. Yasica: 8. Julia: 6. Claudia: 7 (jokes "13" due to two cervixes). Kate: not clearly captured. Brandon Tatum: not asked (male guest). Body count round: Karen: 5. Diana: 50+. Julia: under 10. Claudia: 3 (less than her age). Eileen: significantly less than 24 (Brian jokes multiply by 3). Yasica: not clearly captured.

Transcript

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Juliadoesn't have the same values me as me and so he we had a conversation about it and he was like that's not something I'm going to be trying to pursue like waiting till marriage and then you know yeah but that I mean if you end up pushing your boundaries further if you

Brian Atlashad any qualms about that then you should have just moved like broke up with him not pursued it but I mean to to say that you entered into a romantic relationship with a man who communicated

Brian Atlasto you that he had no interest in waiting till marriage is it any surprise that he wanted to have sex with you like I well he said he would wasited no he

Juliawas no no not saying that he was excited by the concept of like what's going to happen today so he was like trying to convey that he was maybe open-minded to

Juliait but he was like it'll probably be hard after you know many months and I was like okay but yeah if I could go

Brian Atlasback and tell myself like hey girl don't do it don't do it I would yeah you know yeah and what about like previous

Juliarelationships before that were you also waiting till marriage or have you also had once I became a Christian it was always like I want I wait till marriage and and when did you become a Christian

Brian Atlaswhen I was 19 some so how many times have you faltered when it comes to this topic a

Juliacouple but M but I I also had multiple like Ser like the guy I was in a relationship with before we didn't we didn't do it I think three of them we

Brian Atlaswould only kiss okay so it was just it was yeah huh I don't know the whole like different standard thing I'm kind of

Brian Atlasconflicted on because on one hand I think hey it's if you want to wait I that's hey good but I think there's going to be a large subset set of men

Brian Atlasthat see that and to almost some degree feel scammed like okay this was your standard in the past but now you've

Brian Atlaschanged after you've already had these indiscretions now you've changed your standard I think some men's intuition

Juliathere might be to feel kind of scammed yeah and I understand that what I think it shows demonstrates is like the work that the holy spirit's done in my life

Julialife to sanctify me and so when I first became a Christian I didn't I thought we don't have sex before marriage just because it's an arbitrary Rule and now I've now I'm at the point where it's

Julialike I don't want to have sex before marriage because that sin disconnects me from the Lord and I don't want to be disconnected from God I want to be close to him and so it I've matured in my view

Juliaover that time I will say when I was in that relationship even though I was in love with him I felt the most disconnected from God and so I knew it was bad but I was like all of your feelings are just like ah so it was I

Brian Atlasknew it was a bad decision on my part and I it was very painful and I and I learned yeah I'm and I'm not like I'm not a super religious guy I do consider

Brian Atlasmyself a man of God but amen um I I think this is the perspective so when women provide sexual access to previous men more uh more

Brian Atlaseasily cheaper let's say it makes men feel scammed uh so trying to think like for example in the same way that let's say

Brian Atlasyou were dating a guy and you found out that his his ex-girlfriend he would get her gifts all the time he would take her on vacations he was a provider but then when he met you it's like okay now I

Brian Atlaswant to do 50/50 he will never pay for the first date he never gets you gifts you might feel like he was providing a value to an ex that he's not providing to you and you might feel like is he

Brian Atlasjust not as into me is he not like what's going on here so I think that's almost how men feel when it comes to a woman who previously okay fine sex third date and

Brian Atlasthen oh now you want to wait 3 months now you want to wait until marriage I'm not saying it's look ultimately it's 100% your choice right to you can change how you want to move but I think a lot of men might feel maybe not Christian

Brandon Tatummen I don't know yeah say what about a man that is trying to also wait until marriage yeah I think it I think that a lot of men I agree with what he said a lot of men do feel that way but Christian men who are mature they do not

Brandon Tatumthey appreciate that and I guarantee you most men haven't been perfect either so finding a woman that is at least trying to pursue that and you guys can pursue that together is excellent for a Christian man like any other man I can't

Brandon Tatumattest to but for a Christian man I think that that's an incredible value for a woman to have and I think that you have to continue that you know when you when you're in another relationship pursue that um because it means a lot to a man I mean as a Christian man it

Brian Atlasreally means a lot yeah and I I can't speak much on that but I can give you an analogy I'm going to give you guys an analogy I have it written down here and uh guys it's an analogy so don't I'm not

Brian Atlastrying to make some weird comparison but um so making a man wait while in your past you uh were less uh what's the term

Brian Atlasyou gave the you had sex much more easily that would be kind of like going to McDonald's and you're in line you're at the cashier there's three four people in

Brian Atlasfront of you there's other people eating in the McDonald's everybody bought a cheeseburger for $1 the three or four people in front of you bought a cheeseburger for $1 when you finally get to the cashier the cashier says that'll

Brian Atlasbe $1,000 for you sir I think that's how men view like women who would just for all the the 10 20 30 40 guys she had sex with

Brian Atlaspreviously third date second date first date and then when you come along we're waiting until marriage that's how guys are going to

Brandon Tatumfeel like you're going to feel like okay go ahead let me mature men don't waste time thinking about what a woman has done unless unless you got nudies on the

Brandon Tatuminternet a little bit Yeah but that's what we hear like unless you got new pictures on the internet or something that cannot be erased men a mature man typically overlooks that I've never asked my wife

Brandon Tatumone time what was her previous relationship like I don't want to know I don't care you know and you know I like to believe I'm better than every dude she been with that's why we married so I don't really waste my time thinking about that I only think about me and her and what we're going to do and build as

Brandon Tatuma family I don't have time to think about it cuz she ain't going to tell me the truth anyway I'm just being honest wait you you're you're right I doubt I she would be hon she would be honest with you no I don't even want to ask because no woman would tell you you the

Brandon Tatumtruth it's like a it's like when I was a cop and I us pull people over who were drunk I say well how many beers you had they'll say I've had only three beers that mean they had like 10 beers okay you you ask a woman hey baby uh you know

Brandon Tatumuh how many men have you been with now she's ashamed of it she may say something comfortable for her and she'll leave out the dudes in the middle she'll only go with the relationship guys so as a man it's a waste of your time to try to dig into that because it's it's quite

Brandon Tatumirrelevant unless we were in a society where everybody was virgins and you really couldn't make measure that but we live in a society where I don't know a person that's a virgin and if you are that's good you should keep your Purity that keeps you at the top of the hill

Brian Atlasbut um we don't live in that world and I don't care about none of these other dudes sure and I certainly agree with you that I if you it's hard to say I mean I do think wh some women will

Brian Atlascertainly be truthful like if you were to point blank ask them I think they would give you a truthful answer but I think you're also right there's a also a large amount of women that they're not going to be they're not going to count

Brandon Tatumcertain people if it was do you want to know the truth and I don't think I I don't give me the red pill I I would I I want the people say that I want the red but do they really want to know the

Brandon Tatumtruth if the if your if your woman told you every situation she's been in and then it's like how far do you want her to go do you want her to tell her what y'all what they were doing and how many

Brian Atlastimes want know the details but but if I I wouldn't object to knowing like if I'm especially ear I'd like to know early on okay how many previous Partners has she had that's something I would like to

Brian Atlasknow early on that way I can make a determination okay is this acceptable do I not want to continue dating her because of how many previous Partners she's had um I'll take the red pill though on that I'd rather know is she

Brandon Tatumtold you five and she told you five she said I had five guys right which is a pretty low number by three and that's the real she said I had five guys in the relationship and you go yes I love you we can do this I can deal with five

Brandon Tatumdudes right and then you know you're five six years in you now are engaged or whatever the case I think you should get engaged way quicker than that but I'm just hypothetically speaking 5 years in you're engaged and she go hey uh I just want you to know I was afraid to really

Brandon Tatumtell you the real number and it's actually 15 now would you divorce her or would you say I wish I didn't know that cuz I loved you and I built a relationship married we're married at this yeah you

Brandon Tatumdidn't bought the ring brother you didn't had the way everybody came and celebrated are you going to are you going to divorce her or are you going to say I have to either accept the 15 or I

Unknownhave to wish she never told me the truth well I'll say this this is sp she's got to go she has to

Brandon Tatumgo not do it you say it but you wanton it's very difficult to do that you already built a bond so the marriage thing definitely makes it more complicated but let's let's because you love her for more than what who she

Brandon Tatumslept with right you you I me saying you you begin to do that I'm not saying and now let me let me be let me be clear let me be clear because I I know people going to eat me up in the comment section how many people you sleep with

Brandon Tatumdoes matter it really does because it creates trauma and the guy may not know but when you get in a relationship with him and things are falling apart and Y arguing and you think he cheating on you all of that trauma that you never told

Brandon Tatumhim about from all those relationships it it begins to snowball so you want to not be involved in that so but I I will say it it would be very difficult for you to just walk away because you've developed something that's a lot more

Brian Atlasimportant than a sexual encounter with her which many of them she probably don't even she probably really don't have a connection with anymore let's say we're engaged right because marriage that introduces a bit more complication to it you got to unwant you got to do

Brian Atlasthe divorce um I would say though even in the marriage if she lied to me about that me personally that one it's not just her body count it's that she lied about it that that

Brian Atlassets off some alarms for me um engagement off for sure in in a relationship 100 like yes had everything she was everything that you

Brandon Tatumwanted matter she was respectful she was beautiful she clean she she make your sandwiches even when your leg was hurting you feel I mean everything that

Brandon Tatumyou want in a woman I mean and it just that little that body count thing will cause you to break off the Eng well that's why I think they should be honest from the jump that way okay the body count is this I'm that way you can

Brian Atlaspopped out pretty early on I don't think you should lie in the same way that I like I don't think people should be lying to each other I think it's a pretty bad pre uh bad thing to be

Brandon Tatumsetting she gave but she gave an excuse she said I was afraid because you because you guys were a perfect couple and she knew that if she told you the truth even though you guys would be

Brandon Tatumgreat that you would leave her and so that's why she lied and she was right because you guys were perfect and then they're going to do it again that is very true let me ask the ladies here let

Brian Atlasme ask let me ask the ladies here on this though if your guy told you his financial position baby I don't have any debt and then after you get married you find out that he has $400,000 of debt I

Brian Atlasbut I didn't want to tell you because we're so perfect for each other and I didn't want it to is a virtue that you that you like low body count doesn't mean you're pure

Juliabody count doesn't mean you have the virtue of Purity proxy for Purity it's a proxy but it doesn't necessarily mean that because I believe that you can have the virtue of Purity and have a higher body count but you've actually cultivated it wait so hold on you're

Brian Atlassaying like you could you could have a high body count like a 100 previous sexual partners and still be pure like pure you can't rewind P we got to figure out where's the body count number though

Brandon Tatumwhat's the body count number like what do you what what do you ladies deem as a low body count a midle body count or you out of control you out of control below

Claudia (overflow)five I think is a low body count below Five Below five say 15 15 is low yeah here we'll go around the table what's a low low body count go ahead yeah like 15

Brian Atlasbelow five same same to below her below five mm below 15 two to three okay so four is

Brian Atlasmedium body count four to seven four to seven and then more more than more than eight is getting into high for you for the

Brandon Tatumstreets uh I think you answered what about you um into the mic yeah I don't I think anything more than three sounds like okay two w the the the question is

Brandon Tatumsee I can't answer it for you guys but what do you think about men's body count what is a low mid and high body count well that's acceptable for you and a man if he told you I really don't care Oh I

Karen (Serena)I really don't care cuz I feel like your mind can change maybe you get to maybe he can have a 100 and then he gets to the point where he's like you know what I'm tired of Smashing these girls like I

Eileenjust really want a wife I think it goes the same for me like fiveish you know like if he passes like 15 that's too much that's like too much I I just I

TTS Readerdon't want to know wait are we doing the first one was women and this one's mhm I would say tions donated $99 if you found out her body count is higher than previously stated she lied

TTS Readerthrough a mission to secure your dollar if she lies about that what else will she lie about morals are inversely proportional to a woman's body count back to the streets with

Brandon Tatumher I do not I think that's funny but I I think it's I think in a very linear way of thinking that could be true but there there's there's different you know things things that components in life

Brandon Tatumthat people live and and sometimes people may not be always honest about certain things but it depends on what's important to you but no no I'm I talk too much now actually there is a brain

Claudia (overflow)cuz I like that you said that there is trauma when it's involved that if you guys have a high body count you're more prone to have mental illnesses like um trauma PTSD

Claudia (overflow)insomnia um personality disorders mood disorders but there's actually now you can see a brain uh like your brain and

Claudia (overflow)and there's like you can map it and see if you're actually more promiscuous than a brain like when you see uh like a psychopath brain you can actually see if

Claudia (overflow)you're more promiscuous than another brain who who did you hear that from uh there there's a I can send you guys the I can show you guys the article actually right after yeah I actually brought it

Brandon Tatumalong yeah now you can check out Brian and check if they're lying to you about their promis security I never asked a woman I I normally base um what I think

Brandon Tatumbased on the way they act if a woman is very very I mean first dat she's trying to get down and dirty then it lead me to believe she probably do this with a lot of other men if a woman is a little more reserved even mentioned that hey I want

Brandon Tatumto wait till I'm married to have sex I'll perceive that women don't have a crazy body count and I just leave it at that I mean that's just that's just me because I don't want to know cuz if I if

Brandon Tatuma woman told me I had sex with 25 dudes my mind is never going to let that go every time I think of her I'm be like what did I get and then you see a

Brandon Tatumguy that she used to date and you like man what you know what kind of stuff was y'all doing you know I don't want to think about that I just want to focus on my relationship but that's just me I know how I am so I'm like I don't want to ask you I don't need to know man if I

Brandon Tatumthink you I think you for the streets I'm not going to date you anyway I don't need any that uh lower like body count for you as for a woman for a woman yeah I think around I don't know I think

Brandon Tatumaround about five or so seems to be pretty low 10 it it also depend on age right cuz your per year body count could be crazy you know you you make you meet a woman 40 and she's not she's not

Brandon Tatumwaiting for marriage I mean her body count going to be higher than a girl at true 20 and if they have the same body count that means that you maybe not have stretched it out maybe you're very dened

Brian Atlasin getting it done I knowy old yeah well age also it it's definitely obviously if you've been sexually active for a longer period of time you've had more opportunity to potentially acrew more

Brandon Tatumsexual partners but um I mean I'm sure we all you you went to ASU right no University Arizona oh University wait University of Arizona AR Arizona State University of Arizona I got to right

Brian Atlashere okay got um I mean you know this we're very close to UCSB it's one of the top

Brian Atlasparty schools in the United States um some women their first freshman quarter they've sleep with 30 guys um so you

Brian Atlasknow a woman who's 18 can have more sexual partners than a woman who's 30 35 40 so but it varies it depends I mean she gets saved I mean just say your girl got a crazy life like

Brandon Tatumme when I was at College I told I went to college and I was cutting up I was cutting up and and but when I got saved it it it changed a lot in me so I think that's a reset point for me and and I'm

Brandon Tatumopen for that for women even if a woman was doing sex work I'm I'm being honest if a woman was doing sex work now if her stuff is all over the Internet it's it's difficult for a man to accept that but I can see how a man can forgive a woman if

Brandon Tatumshe's giving herself to God and she wants to repent for her old things I wouldn't but I can see how a person would be open to doing that oh like somebody else somebody you personally though I would I couldn't I couldn't

Brandon Tatumyeah because as a and I consider myself to be a high value man I'm I'm very well known I'm all over the internet people recognize me everywhere I go my reputation is on the line attractive right my great beard and my beard is ey

Brandon Tatumthe Beard's good the solid beard my my barber couldn't get me like that Donald Trump shirt yeah my Donald Trump Shir you see I'm so famous for the Donald Trump shirt I should just quit everything I'm doing and just do Donald Trump shirts but but you know I can't

Brandon Tatumhave a woman like that and be married to her because it damages my reputation because it's I go to a business meeting with a multimillionaire a billionaire which I have before I can't have that lingering over my head of a person

Brandon Tatumpossibly seeing my wife naked on the Internet or or 20 or 30 people are people that I see in the airport hey Mr Tatum how you doing man and they got my wife only fans pulled up you know it's it's it's a bad deal they probably clown

Brian Atlason I mean I clown on I mean I would I would feel bad about it um here let's pull up the twitch really quick then we'll try to wrap up on the uh the uh relationship status guys go to

Brian Atlastwitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one y Doos thank you for the prime bear thank for the prime twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in a prime sub if you have one uh your relationship status um I'm

Claudia (overflow)currently in a relationship I got back with somebody that I was with um we reconnected so we were best friends like you said and uh he's Jewish and

Claudia (overflow)Christian and I'm uh Christian so that's our biggest foundation and our communication and compatibil and compatibility is what um our

Claudia (overflow)relationship is based on and like that spark it comes later it really does and the more that we nourish our relationship the more that we fall in love with each other so and I'm in the

Claudia (overflow)family mode where we're planning to see get kids and stuff so I'm in a very happy place right now what about you um just closer to the mic can I am single I

Claudiacall myself a nun when people ask um um oh and my longest relationship was two years two years and I've had one how long have you been single

Brian Atlassince uh I think either June or July of 2020 I think it was July so you're when you say

Claudianone like what you there's been nothing for what 3 years no um there was there was a guy named there's a there was a guy that I just put him on the internet

Claudianow it was yeah there was um someone I've known since I was what like 19 or something

Claudialike that and that sneaky link no he it was complicated it was uh wait a lot okay but so you've been single for

Claudiathree years but in that three-year time period there was a guy sort of in the picture yeah like I he we've talked a couple of times recently but I just blocked him because it just wasn't have

Brian Atlasyou guys H you guys hooked up or like back when I was like 19 okay so you've you're saying you've been because you mentioned you're none

Claudiayou've been celibate for about 3 years 2020 2021 20 4 four years um it was I'd have to look at my Snapchat to remember the exact date I

Brian Atlasleft I I don't need the exact date but you've been celibate for three years 3 four years um I've had a few like

TTS Readerthings happen but not like consensual consensual consensual okay what zenin donated

TTS Reader$99 officer Tatum I appreciate you but I respectfully disagree God forgives I don't coupl with stats showing a direct

TTS Readercorrelation with body hash and divorce she gave herself to the streets without caution no ring for she who devalued herself first

Brandon Tatumthat's fair God forgives I don't I I I get it I get it but that's why we are if you're a Christian I don't know about everybody else but you're a Christian you're supposed to be more like God you want to be more like Christ and you should be forgiving the Bible says that

Brandon Tatumif you don't forgive God won't forgive you and if you're not a forgiving person you're not going to heaven so if you're not a Christian then I don't know what to tell you but as a Christians you have to you are forced to forgive you can forgive and not be with a person but at

Brandon Tatumthe same time you you you have to be in a position to forgive and and a lot of people want forgiveness themselves everybody has made mistakes everybody in at this table there's not one person that's a virgin at this table and

Brandon Tatumeverybody has slept with somebody they regret they and one of my biggest regrets is that I didn't wait till I was married and I know a lot of people have those regrets so we want forgiveness we want to get another chance sometimes you

Brandon Tatumhave to experience dating somebody that hurt you and for you to know what you really really want and what you want to accept from a man so that's a little shallow but I I it's cool to disag agree

Brandon Tatumdo you think someone can be a born- again virgin is that a thing or is that just yeah I think they can I think they can be I mean spiritually naturally no okay spiritually you can I mean so well

Brandon Tatumas far as relationship status moving on to you uh what's your uh relationship status uh I'm married I've been married now for about four years before that I never had a I wasn't

Brandon Tatumin a serious relationship uh I I have to say not I never was was but it was a long time ago I have a 13-year-old son now and so the serious relationship I had was 13 years

Brandon Tatumago with his mom but this is the difference you ask women not not nothing against you sweetheart you ask women and they say they'll tell you their major

TTS Readermilestones and then you find out there stuff in between $99 true Brian allow me to make the introduction Brian this is B Tatum you a number 34 around 07 to 09

TTS Readerlike you he has has an awesome YouTube channel and around the table you have two ladies and handful of 304s keep bringing the good guests like

Brian AtlasTatum NS and Candace well hey Eric thank you very much um yeah I'm going to try to keep bringing on some uh awesome guests and uh it stoked that Brandon's

Brandon Tatumuh joining us today um you're saying that yeah so is I I what I was saying is that that's why I don't ask women anyway because the propensity is that the big major relationships is what they talk about then there's the little guys in

Brandon Tatumbetween that's why I don't ask that but as a man I have not been single from the 13-year-old son all the way to my marriage so I've had women that I've dated in between I've had women that I

Brandon Tatumwanted to wait till marriage and we did wait and it didn't work out and it was an easy break my heart didn't get broken her heart didn't get broken we broke up and it was like hey no no it's not too much of an investment but then there's

Brandon Tatumalso women that I slept with and I regretted it and I tell you what every single time I said said I'm going to wait till I wait till we get married and I rigged on that the relationship ended shortly after that and it was and it was

Brandon Tatuma heartbreak so I've learned my lesson over time and I think that's why I am to the point that I'm at and I was mature enough to actually pursue marriage and it's the greatest decision

Brian AtlasI've ever made got it got it well we finally got around to everybody's uh relationship status so I a couple of you provided were so kind to provide some pre-show notes to us so I have a notes

Brian Atlasthat I've like to uh bring up here um first off uh would any of you date a police officer yes well hold on let me go around the table let's start we'll start with you

Brian Atlaswe'll go around the table go ahead yes I don't know probably well proba probably just depends like you listen be totally honest we have we do have an next police officer here but I don't

Eileenthink he'll he won't be offended if if it's a not no I think it's more on the side of like oh you're getting like that's a risky job and I would like to be Sam

TTS Reader$99 heing this panel talk Christianity is like feminists talking zodiac signs Brandon the live chat is roasting you hard because you're acting like Steve

Brian AtlasHarvey J to save you the chat is brutal all right it's totally fine I could K this um I the chat likes Brandon what do you guys okay I think I think what they want me to do

Brandon Tatumis they want me to come on here and they want me to bash all these women and talk crazy to them and tell them how they're and all this stuff and that's not how I feel in my heart to respond to that

Brandon Tatumsorry I don't I don't feel that way you know I think everybody deserves love everybody deserves to be appreciated and they may make mistakes and that may lead them down a negative path but for me I'm

Brandon Tatumnot here to call call you out and and go viral and all this other stuff I I think that I met you guys before the the panel and I respect every single woman that's on this panel and it's not up to me to look in your personal life and figure

Brandon Tatumthat out you guys have been nothing but wonderful to me I don't have to be a jerk and and treat you guys like you're beneath me and I don't I don't think that's fair but I know that's what they

Eileenwant to see but that's not how I feel sure so um so RIS I'm more the yeah that is a like risky job and I wouldn't like

Brian Atlaslike oh you're going to work and I don't know me waiting home and what Happ what if happens to you what about you no wouldn't date just to be clear you

Dianawouldn't date a police officer but you would date a thug I wouldn't date a thug you said you sorry gangster different what's the difference

Dianabetween a thug and a gangster a pretty boy with tattoos is that what it wait listen I won't no I I won't dat clop you can't dat a cop or you won't dat cop I

Brian Atlaswon't because before we he answers uh we'll go around the table F you uh yes would they I would but I think the risk is an interesting point okay I would

Dianaabsolutely yeah yeah gotcha so just coming back to you uh why because I feel that he'll get into my like he'll want

Dianato probably um investigate certain family members or my friends and I don't need him doing that so no no thanks that's risky yeah I don't I don't I don't want him investigating I don't

Diananeed that what if doesn't though how do I know that how do you but how do you know like why do you make that assumption okay so because I do have a family member that is married to one and

Brian Atlashe's yeah it's just no it's enough for me um are there any other reasons besides just the they might want to do like a background check or investigate you a little bit is there any other reasons why you might not want to date a

Dianapolice officer I've heard through a friend who was with somebody that was a police officer and she said that those are the worst to dat I'm not saying you are oh no but you

Dianaknow there's a lot of criced ones out there there are dirty cops out there there are dirty because a lot of them they're out on the field working but they're with other women during that

Karen (Serena)time you seen that you seen the video not too long ago about the guy getting caught or the girl was going to his car it at the park mhm he was a cop yep but

Brian Atlaslike is that a good like okay I'm sure you could find any career field where there's infidelity like airplane like that's true uh probably engineer like any job you can find people that are going to cheat so I don't know if like

Karen (Serena)one examp Engineers they're they're not them okay fine let's exclude soft cops can get cops can get um they can do a lot of things that

Karen (Serena)they're not supposed to because they have that power and I don't know like as cuz I would date one but going into knowing like he can be you know cricked

Dianadirty can I just have you scoot your mic this way a little bit perfect um okay yeah like you know what what if it doesn't work out and then he wants to pull some on me hell no I'm like

Eileenwhat arrest what if he just he might do something stupid or you know like no like framing I'm not doing that yeah can you like do like backr checks and stuff

Brandon Tatumor like families and stuff it's illegal you go to jail for for a pretty good amount of time if you do that you cannot illegally uh investigate people or or look up people's personal information

Brandon Tatumyou it's a felony crime as a police officer do police officers do it I think some do risk their job we had one person on our Police Department it was a female she was stalking to ex and she decided to look up the girlfriend's address and

Brandon Tatumthen she but she got she got charged with a felony you know people can do it it's rare that a cop would do that because you're risking a lot for a little bit Zen thank man good to see you back

TTS Readerin the chat thank you forgiveness comes from the basis of contrition what Contrition is she exhibiting while hopping from chat Tyrone to poy isn't the question but forgiveness

TTS Readeris earned otherwise what's the point she can be recreational use only well I think that goes back to what he was saying before God forgives he does zentience does yeah it just depends right if a person is still doing the

Brandon Tatumsame thing that they've been doing what's the point of you dealing with the person I'm saying somebody who's genuinely looking for forgiveness and they've changed their lives and they want a new start and then you and you want to grant that to them then that's fine um I think it's okay to forgive

Brian Atlaspeople you don't have to hold it over somebody's head forever so and yeah if I recall um I I don't know if I addressed this previously when it came to body count you said that her past is her past

Brandon Tatumlike you wouldn't care but what if it was something really extreme like like a hundred yeah I I would care like what what I'm saying is that I never really ask and I kind of Base it on their

Brandon Tatumcharacter normally chicks with body counts that's that high they hey they they with it they with it you could tell right away you do a little bit of something here and there and they they ready to go normally women who are a

Brandon Tatumlittle more apprehensive they it seem like they value their sexuality a little more so they're more likely to not have that amount of a body count not all but I think that that's it's it's kind of

Brandon Tatumthe game that I think but can I say something hold on one second to the to the amount it would matter it would matter to a certain degree right if somehow a girl was you know I don't know

Brandon Tatumjust swiping through Tinder and smashing all these guys and I knew about it it would be less likely that I would want to be in a relationship with a woman like that got it go ahead oh yeah I just

ClaudiaI think it's important um how a woman acts after you guys do stuff together cuz sometimes you mean

Claudiasex yeah that in Intimate things when those happen if a woman sometimes um not sometimes when when a woman hasn't been with a lot of people she'll

Claudiashe'll get really attached and it'll make her you know like calling and and and putting in effort to that person um so what you were saying is sometimes like oh if the if the girl's like ready

Claudiato go or like into the situation sometimes that's just the mood she's in you know and it's it's it's about the person themselves I think what shows If a person is like a lower body count is how they

Brian Atlasact after so they could be the case oh I I kind of I think I see like if a woman has a

Brian Atlaslow body count and she has sex with you like you're saying that she might actually start developing more feelings like a girl who hasn't had a lot of sexual partners she will actually proper

Brian Atlaslike start bonding with you once she's had sex with you whereas like you can tell like if you have sex with a girl and she just she would be fine never talking to you again that would be a pretty good indicator that she's like

Claudia (overflow)this ain't the first rodeo she's had a lot of sexual or that could be um a mental illness immediately that could be like love addiction or a really a really

Claudia (overflow)attachment style that she has severe codependency issues and that could be a huge red flag cuz she could be having sex with a guy each day and get attached

Yasicato him immediately because she has wasn't good at it very um very love he wasn't good at it that's it no I think if you have a lower number then you

Yasicacould get attached faster because you haven't had that many couples that if you have um a higher number then you'll be like oh and that's why you should wait and not have sex with people that

Brandon Tatumyou're not fully committed to because you don't want to put a person in that position a person with a low body count and then you end up get getting them attached to you and you're like I'm not really trying to be in a relationship but you've now invoked that in in in

Brandon Tatumthat person you know Y young men and people are going to hate me for saying this I think young men need to take responsibility for these things as well you know young men are creating These Hoes I'm just being

Brandon Tatumhonest young men create These Hoes too it's not that they don't want it but if dudes weren't willing to sleep with them they wouldn't have a high body count so I think that young men need to take responsibility too be the example by

Brandon Tatumsaying I'm not going to sleep with this woman I'm going to hold off on it even if she wants to because I want to be in a relationship or I don't want to be in a relationship let me make that leadership decision so I'm not hurting

Claudia (overflow)her feelings now she's attached and now we breaking up now I got a baby with her I I I put it on the young men to to be more proactive but also you women do have to take responsibility because they

Claudia (overflow)are also there's now higher numbers where you see women like sleeping with men all the time because they're so love starved that they are creating that they are so codependent that they will start

Claudia (overflow)fantasizing even if they only slept with this man for one time they become so attached to him and if he starts ignoring her she will immediately start looking for another guy to sleep with

Eileenbecause she needs that love and that love is not getting received but also people with lower um body counts they're really selective like they won't go just the first night or first dat let's do it

Claudia (overflow)no ex that's why they have lower body counts no I said higher body counts I'm saying the higher body counts not the lower body counts with you lower body counts are more selective and that's why they have they're more

Karen (Serena)mentally can be yeah exactly more mentally stable what about someone who has a low body count and they've exper let's just say it's three and the third

Karen (Serena)one they experience crazy physical attraction but somehow it just didn't work out cuz the spark wasn't there and then you wait what if you wait to you know because you

Karen (Serena)became a Christian or whatever you wait until marriage and then you get physical with your husband and it's like the sex is bad it's not going to I that I think that that's relative to how attracted

Brandon Tatumyou are to the person and how much you love that person you know a man can Spruce it up you know if you love that person and you enjoy spending time with them intimacy with that person it can

Brandon Tatumbecome good for you um or y'all can just work on it I mean it ain't how much stuff can you do you can teach a man how to do possible that it that can be a deal breaker I think it

Brandon Tatumcould if you're a mature person I don't think it would be a deal breaker because life is more or relationships deeper than just sex you know sex is very important in a relationship find way to

Brian Atlasmake it better yeah well but I mean if I so you're saying in a scenario where a woman she's had sex before but now moving forward she wants to wait until marriage before she wants to wait till

Brian Atlasmarriage to have sex correct mhm she wants to hold well I mean if that is your standard like if if you're switching that to be your standard then obviously you weren't able to screen like sexual compatibility you

Brian Atlasweren't able to screen out some of these things but like if you're a Godly woman you should realize that okay like Brandon was saying you're now mature like there are things that are more

Brian Atlasimportant than sex obv and obviously like really like sex is not this complicated procedure like that's something that can be worked on granted I will say that typically most women

Brian Atlasespecially women who have some degree of sexual experience don't want to be teaching a man how to them like most women would find that unattractive if they have to like handhold a guy

Brandon Tatumhere's how you please me most women want men to just get it especially if you were turned before that yeah but you you got you have to understand I I think I think it's important too to realize that the dude that turned you he he didn't

Brandon Tatumwant born like that right it wasn't like he just came out the womb and he know how to put it down he had a lot of experience to end up getting to that point potentially and so when you marry a person that have a lot of other incredible values you could say okay I'm

Brandon Tatumwilling to work in that area you're never going to marry a person that got everything you want it ain't happening you can forget about it you can marry a man that can throw it down in the bedroom but there's other things that

Brandon Tatumyou may not like about this person when you get into relationship you start having children you're going to realize that sex is not as big of a deal as you think it is it's going be a lot more of

Brandon Tatumthe things that are important in a longlasting relationship okay I'm not saying it's not important you got to get it in but at the same time you'll realize that there's a lot of other things you enjoy with your partner other than just smashing it's not just feeling

Claudiagood though like cuz I think that's what you're saying it's not just about feeling good it's because I think please just into the mic please it's not just about feeling good right like that's what you're saying is no I'm not saying

Brandon Tatumit's just about feeling good I'm just saying that when I go home to my wife and the house is clean and I see my son and we're going on a walk together as a

Brandon Tatumfamily that feels really good to me that enriches me as a man I feel empowered it makes me want to you know go out and conquer the world I feel really great about that if we didn't have sex that

Brandon Tatumnight it's not going to change the world for me you know so I I I think that when you add the other dynamics of love and and children you realize that that won't make you leave somebody that's I think

Claudia (overflow)that's where I'm at on I'm just going to add one real quick thing um and that feeling is because it's actually real and a lot of people we've been so

Claudia (overflow)desensitized from feeling these real small Happy Feelings that we don't um really get to enjoy like these really

Claudia (overflow)pleasurable moments and to be honest one person this is the actual and I hope he doesn't hear this one but um he actually is not experienced at all and we were

Claudia (overflow)both going and I'm not that experienced but we go through it through our own pastor we go through it through counseling we we're going through life

Claudia (overflow)together and it doesn't matter to me because he is the most kindest P kindest most intelligent person I know and sex isn't everything to me the way he treats

Claudia (overflow)me the way he treats my family the way he treats every every aspect of my life and the way we treat each other is the most important thing to me it's everything okay a couple notes here um

Brian Atlasso also this is actually another reason why I think B body count matters and why having a woman who has a low body count is very important this is actually probably where a lot of Christian men

Brian Atlasmight get into trouble especially with a woman who's had numerous previous sexual partners and like if a girl here's the thing right when a girl starts having

Brian Atlasmore and more sexual partners not only and this is going even Beyond like sexual skills skills in the bedroom uh as you start hooking up with more and

Brian Atlasmore guys eventually you're going to land on a guy who is just either really good in bed or is really hot really attractive or he's bringing he's got high status or he's got a lot of money

Brian Atlasand you're going to you're going to hold your future Partners to that guy so once a woman's

Brian Atlasbeen with like a real like a top G a top G like Brandon over here she's done like like oh and now she's going to go settle for like an average dude because here's the

Brian Atlasdifference between men and women women can very easily and JBS had a comment here that I'm going to pull up in just a sec like women can get sexual access to

Brian Atlasvery very attractive men High status wealth uh they could even be good in the bedroom too but those men aren't necessarily going to commit to you because one of the differences between

Brian Atlasmen and women is a guy of a certain it could be physical attractiveness it could be status it could be socioeconomic whatever it is he'll sleep with a woman

Brian Atlasthat is less attractive than him or of a different socioeconomic status he'll never commit to her so you could have like an average girl who goes hook hooks up with a millionaire or billionaire

Brian Atlashe's not going to commit to you but now you've introduced into your uh into your periphery a certain lifestyle uh you've been with

Brian Atlasa certain tier of guy and it's going to be very very hard for you to now go and settle for a guy who's actually on your level I think if you want to you can get

Yasicaa guy like that if you want if they want to if a girl wants to to stay with a guy that gave her everything then they can not well here's the thing right like I

Juliaagree with you yeah if she doesn't sleep with him maybe if she doesn't sleep with him yeah I mean like I like to to keep a man's attention the best way is to not

Brian Atlasdo that that quickly yeah if you're on his level if you're on his level a guy a guy's not like here's the thing right um there there's this concept called hypergamy like women are trying to get

Brian Atlasthe best man that they can get and so what you have happening on dating apps for example and most people are meeting online most people are meeting on dating apps you have a very very small percentage of men on these dating apps that are matching with all the women

Brian Atlasthey've done studies on this they've released the data women are only swiping on the top five top 10% of men on these dating apps so what you're going to have happen is all the attention is going towards the top 10% of men on these dating apps typically those are the most

Brian Atlasphysically attractive men because the dating apps operate on a fairly superficial shallow level so it's really push like it's really making physical attraction looks the focus women are

Brian Atlasgiving all their attention to these the top 10 top 5% of the men they they have all the optionality they're going to sleep with these women that they would otherwise never entertain for a long-term relationship because they

Brian Atlaswelcome the easy access to sex so here's the here's the big difference men will sleep with women of a certain uh men will sleep with women of a certain physical attractiveness that

Brian Atlasthey would never consider being in a relationship with because for men like they'll sleep with a girl but just based on her looks alone will never be in a relationship with her but they're like

Brian Atlasokay cool easy sex sweet but what ends up happening is that girl then thinks if because I'm able to have sex with that guy therefore I must also be on that

Brian Atlaslevel that's the guy that I deserve for a long-term relationship so let's just to use numbers here let's say a girl who's a six she can get with a guy who's an eight or nine looks wise he's never going to commit to her but he will have

Brian Atlassex with her maybe once he might even keep her around as a friends with benefits she'll never get commitment so that's where women kind of get in this trap and then what ends up happening they get sexual attention say average

Brian Atlaswomen get sexual uh attention from men that are of a certain that are more physically attractive than than them they now think that's my level that's my league that's not your league you can

Brian Atlasget sex from those men that's not your league though in the same way that you can get attention from a guy who's got a certain like Drake it's got a certain level of status right uh actually let not bring in let I'm not going to bring

Brian Atlasin status I'll just keep it to looks um so what you have happening is these women sorry I'm losing my I'm losing my train of thought here um oh so okay what

Brian Atlaswhat ends up happening is that the guys who are actually on their level average women no longer want average men and this is evidenced by the fact that women view like 80 to 90% of men as physically

Brian Atlasunattractive so as women if you start chasing after these men who will give you access to sex they'll never give you a ring or a relationship then the men who are actually on your level who will be loyal

Brian Atlaswho will give you commitment who will give you a ring you think you're settling for him even though that's your looks equivalent that's your match that's your league that's on your level you think they're below you so that's I think that's a big I think that's anaz I

Juliathink that's a great point and I feel like we need like very longwinded sorry if you can get in a 30 second clip like let's just pass it around so every girl can see that and read it cuz I think it's very important I mean I even think that some guys that are like a 10 will sleep with a if there's alcohol involved

Brian AtlasI mean if there's certain things oh guys who are T will absolutely sleep with the six they will never commit to them what I was saying though is I think but one thing and I'll let you finish the reverse does isn't true for women though

Brian Atlasyeah for a woman to sleep with a guy typically the guy needs to be at least physically attractive enough to be in a relationship

Brian Atlaswith okay women will actually and and women will actually not disagreeing and and typically women will actually break rule so it's almost the reverse so men

Brian Atlaswill break their rule for when it comes to sex uh casual sex men will sleep down when it comes to casual sex women will typically sleep up so like women will bend their rules if the guy's really

Brian Atlasphysically attractive maybe their previous standard was um okay I'm I don't sleep on the first date or I'm waiting but if a guy's physically attractive enough a lot of women will break their rule which is dumb but what

JuliaI'm saying is if you're within hold on if you're within like one degree right one and a half sure if you want a chance of maybe making him your man the best thing you can do is not sleep with him because then he cuz let's say you're a

Juliagirl like there are some girls maybe they're six but they have like an amazing personality like that counts for something and so then the guy you give the guy a little bit of time to get to know you while he also is like intrigued and wanting to intrigued by you sexually

Juliaand so then the combo and then maybe there's a better chance now when it's a six and a 10 sure I totally agree but I think like for for like the best way to get a man is not to sleep with him I will I will say that I think a lot of

Brian Atlasmen and perhaps we can ask the chat maybe one in the chat if you agree with this I think it's certainly the case that a lot of men would be willing to

Brian Atlasforego on the physical looks front if the woman can bring them peace is Pleasant is feminine has a low body count is not promiscuous I do think men

Brian Atlasare probably a little negotiable on that front I would say though like a guy who has but that's more so a guy who has a lot of sexual

Brian Atlasoptionality I really don't think that like if you if you're one or two points or three points looks wise below him he has so much sexual optionality I

Brian Atlasdon't think he's he'll find a girl that's willing to them right away Not all men but I think my ex was cuter than me personally and which one the Christian or the nonis the non-Christian

Juliabut I we weighed a very long time and so and he said that and he want and like we were official and that he said that it was because of that he got to he got to

Brandon Tatumlike know me and see me um okay so that's just my and some people might think we're equal no as a man as a man 100% man you know when you're young you don't care you just all the hot chicks

Brandon Tatumyou want to get with them especially if you weren't raised right you know you you get into this idea of this modern culture and you get confused and you want to sleep with women because of their looks when you become mature man

Brandon Tatumyou want peace that means more to you someone who's agreeable cuz you can have a hot chick and she's a pain in the rear and I hate to say it a lot of super hot

Brandon Tatumwomen or super attractive women are annoying because and I'm not saying everyone but they get that way because they don't have to work on their personality because they get so much attention based on their looks so they don't have to work on anything else they could just they could be sitting across

Brandon Tatumthe room from a guy they don't have to work on nothing men are like dogs you know they they want to come and get get that one woman because she's incredibly beautiful but she don't work on her character or she want to be a boss Bay or she doing all this other stuff that's

Brandon Tatumreally unattractive to the man she want she can get men but the man that she want is not going to be in a relationship with her if she cannot be a peace and agreeable uh with the man yeah I totally agree

Eileenwith that um it's all about the personality wherever I always stated it honestly like guys that are not that cute and it's not that oh yeah I'm the

Eileencutest of the relationship or anything but it needs to be with the personality like they are awesome persons like people or whatever and a lot of girls think about like like you were saying

Eileenlike uh guys a 10 and they're an eight they have sex I feel from like my friends and stuff that they say like oh I'm going to have sex with him and he's going to fall in love for the sex you

Eileenknow there's a lot of girls that think of that and I'm like well I'm the whole opposite I'm like hell no I'm not have if I want something with him I'm not having s until we're dating like wait

Brian Atlasbut if you don't want something from see I are you saying that there are some men that you hook up with quickly that you don't want anything from no oh okay

Brian Atlasbecause I mean that's kind of like a an interesting thing where women will have two different standards there's maybe your spring break partying whatever like

Brian Atlasin your past okay I'll sleep the guy within 30 minutes of meeting him and then next week oh you you you meet a guy who oh he's got really great long-term potential I'm going to make him wait 3

Eileenmonths no I've never had like a wi night stand or anything so I'm like what I always wait like what's the longest what's the shortest you've waited to have sex

Eileenprobably and no judgment by the way I've like a month or the shortest a month and a half yeah is that a lot for you girl I me

Eileenthat's good I mean that's get your bag that's a good standard that's a good standard because as a man I I'm not going to give yeah I'm not going to give it like the second date or third date

Brian Atlasjust like no I ain't wi that long she a classy lady you say you you you wouldn't wait that long I they have work for it you know of my long-term

Brian Atlasrelationships um I I don't feel like there there's this Trope now some guys will definitely view a woman who sleeps with too quickly in the negative light my personal view is is that I don't I

Brian Atlasdon't need to wait a long time I've had relationships with wonderful women and we hooked up relatively quickly third date second date I personally don't think and you know longterm 2-year I had

Brian Atlasa 2-year relationship 5-year relationship um these were good relationships and the quickness with which we had sex did not have negative

Eileenimpact uh on on the relationship in my view yeah so you think right I mean I could be wrong I'm still what if that was your his her fifth buddy you know and now she's going to have six buddy

Eileenand the next person that he she Mets like he's going to be like oh no that's a lot of like combo already you know that's going to be up you know so you have to actually work it out I mean I think I I maybe tend to move a little

Brian Atlasdifferently than some other guys like for me if I have sex with a girl I want to pursue something longterm with her even if we hook up relatively early on I've never been interested in just

Brian Atlassleeping with with a girl once that has very little that's very uh not of interest for me so if I sleep with a girl even if it's early on I want to I

Brian Atlaswant there to be continuity I want to continue seeing her so maybe I move a little differently than some other people because I think maybe it's the case that some people might say okay well hooked up with her quick don't want

Brian Atlasto continue seeing her or there's just guys that they're just trying to just one girl after the other have sex one I have sex once and never see her again me personally that doesn't make sense like

Brian AtlasI don't get that to have sex with a girl once and then never talk to her again unless something really weird happened but like if I decide I want to have sex with a girl I want to keep

Eileenseeing her so but is it like at the first day like is that too like quick what's the longest like for you I a what do you mean the longest I would waitest the shortest I mean I've I've hooked up

Eileenwith a girl on the first night I met her yeah and that doesn't change your like my calculus I mean thought of her no not necessarily not

Brandon Tatumnecessarily but I think but this is this goes to the body count thing right I mean you get a girl in the first date no commitment more than likely first daters don't really work out it didn't work out and that's one more body she have on her

Brandon Tatumbody count and and and and the women have to be accountable for that right I mean you don't you had it takes you to tango but I would encourage men to not do that to get to know her better and don't

Brandon Tatumwaste that body on you or her get to know her because what happens when you have sex you overlook all the red flags I mean the red flags become hot pink they're not red anymore because now you've been sexually involved and if

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