02:50:36Brian Atlasnow good times I was young okay good times good times so basically what you're saying is is that with your current
02:50:48Brian Atlasboyfriend you can't do long distance right we did long distance oh you did with your current okay that's whole another thing um aen right Eileen Eileen
02:50:58Brian Atlassorry I can't pronounce names tonight um you had a couple notes Here why can't you have guy friends when dating that was your question why can't you have guy friends so you're saying
02:51:10Brian Atlaslike if you're dating a guy and he doesn't want you to hang out with guy friends is that kind of right yeah because I mean I'll because they they
02:51:20Brandon Tatumwant to you your male friends want to have sex let's let's keep it real all out of all of your gu friends have you slept with any one of them no so anybody
02:51:32Brandon Tatumthat you've been with are they still your friend no now if if you gave them an opportunity with they no your your got friends are they
02:51:43Yasicagay no are they single I have to say so some yes and some no been a snitch on snitch tell the truth come on sister so the thing is
02:51:54Yasicathat that um they sto being friends is because they always like like her and want to date her and she's like we're friends so listen listen can I can I can I can I
02:52:06Brandon Tatumtell you what men are thinking me and my wife talk about this all the time these men would if you give them a time of date they'll take advantage of it men know that so when you're dating and you
02:52:18Brandon Tatumhave these men lingering around other men feel intimidated by that because they know you give one of them an opportunity and they coming in for the kill just that's all I'm saying but once they start like they tell me like oh I
02:52:30Eileenlike you I'm like okay bye you know like you're not my friend anymore all of my best friends guy friends that end up liking me I'm like okay no bye you know
02:52:41Brian Atlaslike this is for the whole table here uh who here currently has a male friend male friend does a coworker
02:52:51Brian Atlascount oh friend friend male friends friend uh who here has a male friend that's single currently here's what I
02:52:59Brian Atlaswant all of you to do take out your phone I want you to text him and say hey ah what do what's the go-to text do you want a
02:53:09Brian Atlascuddle or you we could change it up no you need to say something like hi listen I've been thinking I have feelings for
02:53:19Brian Atlasyou do you want to she's going she's going I was going to say here take but since you brought it up take out your phone right now I want you to text one of your male friends can we can we what
02:53:31Brian Atlaswhat's is it in a bag or is it just on the table on my bag here we'll we'll have someone grab your bag is this everybody text or if you want to text multiple male friends and see if they're DTF the black one go for it
02:53:43Brandon Tatummaybe winky face one want to cuddle I don't know I am now sabotaging all your male friendships by the way but I'm telling you even if it wasn't that that intrusive you will know is if you text
02:53:55Brandon Tatumthem and they respond like this they'll respond like this if you just say hey what do you want us to text how you doing and they go like this I
02:54:04Brandon Tatumdon't want to do him like that I'm not telling you I want to cuddle mhm that okay I'm telling you I just ain't no man want to be a friend with want to be a
02:54:15Brandon Tatumfriend with you I agree men are friends with men women are friends with women it's it's rare that you would have a man that's a friend with a woman especially attractive woman and he just want to be friends in his yeah he's playing the
02:54:27Juliagame you got some male friends I I do he's he's hanging on there's one that I know would respond positively to that and there's one that I know that wouldn't what you mean POS either way I you mean positively mean he will respond
02:54:38Juliaand say Yes or question mark winky one I'm I know would winky face because of how frequently he texts me and is like following stuff so I know the other um I think I would traumatize do you want a
02:54:50Brian Atlascuddle or hey I want a cuddle cuz I just text hey I want to cuddle he's going to be like what he's going to be I would say wna cuddle question mark winky face that's how you say it it's not the per most perfect message but I think it gets
02:55:04Brian Atlasthe point across one cuddle sometimes be other friend but see see you have how many guy friends you said
02:55:15Eileenum like three like like best friend guy friends how many did you message just one whated cuz you know the one there to say yes oh no but not right now I don't have like in my whole life it's been Oh
02:55:26Brandon TatumI thought you mean currently no no cuz I'm like you went to one and why would you go to that one over the other ones no no I just this is the only one right now like good friend yeah see but this
02:55:38Brandon Tatumis this is what you were saying the good friend that you're not even confident this person is not going to respond and say yeah they want to cuddle she know her friend want to cuddle she just said she had two friends one one want to cuddle anybody else want to play this
02:55:50Brandon Tatumgame by the way I'm in a relation yeah she she don't want to play with her relationship what about you I can't me neither you you message a coworker if you want to they probably say yes to probably this is the reason why men
02:56:02Brandon Tatumdon't want women to have these friends lingering around because they're really not your friend I but some of them are just waiting in the wings some of them you ready to Rebound with not you but I'm saying women could be ready to
02:56:14JuliaRebound with so that's why men are feel some type of way cuz we know how we are I don't have any women female friends TR you that's what I'm I was going to your boyfriend like he trust me he why would
02:56:26Juliahe trust you and you said that you got two friends and one of them C the one that I know would I specifically I'll I'll only hang out with him like in groups it's about respect but why would you have if you know first of all let's
02:56:38Juliaall be clear I'm single so you know but I had like my I had a neighbor and we would hang out all the time like we would like cook dinner and you know I would help him with his girl problems and my boyfriend at the time had no
02:56:51Brian Atlasproblem with itend that's because men are in today's day and age don't know that they're allowed to have preferences standards and specifically boundaries and it's my
02:57:03Brian Atlasview that if you're in a long-term committed monogamous relationship with somebody frankly I don't think that you should really have male friends that's my view certainly certainly for marriage and it sounds like you're someone who
02:57:15Brian Atlaswants to get married I don't think it would be appropriate for you to be hanging out with like a male friend alone sure but I think you got to give you have to give a little a little
02:57:26Julialeeway for that separating process like the you start a relationship and then like how quickly do you cut off contact with your male friends it's hard to say what's the reason that that person is you a friend which why why are either
02:57:38Brandon Tatumone of those guys are friend uh well like the one I was dating the one my neighbor wait a minute you were dating that guy or you saying that no no I had I had that situation I had I had a friend okay
02:57:50Brian Atlasdo you guys want to see the respon I was lonely we'll come back we'll come back to that um nothing to me wait guys just hide your phone screens hide your phone screen go ahead th this
02:58:02Karen (Serena)guy mind you this guy has been kind of like wa can you move the microphone this way go ahead go ahead he was like my therapist because I used to tell him like what did he say what did he say
02:58:12Karen (Serena)what did he say what he say said hey you want a cuddle he said I would but I'm not even home I'm out of town MA got to take a range check you back from your pod you're back from your podcast how
02:58:24Brian Atlaswas it so if he was home he would do it he'd want to cuddle yeah how long how long have you had this male friend for over a
02:58:33Brian Atlasyear okay have you heard back from this guy okay and he's respectful too and he what read back the first part shocked shocked I don't
02:58:45Karen (Serena)know can you read it back one more time respon he said I said hey want to cuddle wink he said laughing laughing face
02:58:56Karen (Serena)I would I would but I'm not even home I'm out of town MA got to take a range check you back from your podcast how was it also also something that just occurred to me something that just
02:59:07Brian Atlasoccurred to me when it comes to boyfriends being uncomfortable with your male friends let's also introduce the friend zone into this because men typically are
02:59:18Brian Atlasnot friendzoning women in the same way that women are friend-zoning men so like a lot of women you just have dudes in your pocket that would jump at the chance to be in a relationship with you those are the guys in your friend zone
02:59:31Brian Atlasthose are the guys in your orbit but no but you okay how often is it the case that the woman like a guy will show a interest in the woman and that woman what for whatever reason maybe he's not
02:59:42Brian Atlasthat interesting she's not attracted to him friend zones him let's just be friends men don't really do that to women like men aren't really friend zoning women it happens but like
02:59:54Brian Atlastypically it's pretty rare for men to like have a lot of women in the friend zone but those women are attracted to him uh typically it's the woman friend zoning the guy now I think if you're a guy and you have any self-respect you
03:00:07Brian Atlasdon't allow yourself to it's just like okay goodbye nice to know you but not to say that you can't be amicable and have like a pleasant doesn't have to okay whatever I'm getting away from the topic
03:00:19Brian Atlaswomen have men in the friend zone so your friends that you claim are your friends it could very well be the case that at one point they communicated a romantic or sexual interest in you and
03:00:30Brian Atlasyou friendzone them so that's another reason why men are wary of male friends because the it might have not started as a friend he might have had a romantic or sexual interest in you from the get-go
03:00:41Brian Atlasso that's another reason um br yeah yeah bringing it back to you you were I forgot what we were talking about you had you the two guys you were explaining the way one of them I think
03:00:53Juliawould respond positively although a it's like 11:15 his time sorry and he wakes up early so I don't know if he would okay let's assume it was more reason in the morning in the morning he's going to
03:01:06Juliabe like yeah and I think he would be excited but then I would you want to text him right now let's see male friend I'll let me do him do one more PG version want a cudd cuddle is pretty
03:01:17Juliacuddle is sacred C face cuddle is sacred cuddling is wait you don't believe in premarital cuddling they I wouldn't cuddle like on the first date that leads to other I
03:01:28Claudiawould wa yeah I would premarital cuddle all the time I I woulde I would premarital cuddle even if I was first dat first day you know too much that's too much it
03:01:41Juliamake it really difficult yeah I like to like go we go into public place you know what about the movie theater don't you I don't I don't do movie dates not because of that cuz I like to get to know the person I feel like you can't do that if you're at a
03:01:52Brian Atlasmovie I love movie yeah go ahead and text him if anybody else wants to do text have you heard back yet no do you want to text a different male friends I
03:02:01Brian Atlasyou got a c one okay if you can think of anybody also this is the same reason when it comes to men not wanting to take seriously for a long-term relationship women have a lot of male
03:02:14Brian Atlasfriends or who aren't willing to like kind of phase out their male friends uh I think it's the same reason that you should not date women who go to bars nightclubs and parties so and I think
03:02:26Brandon Tatumalso for men you're looking at me crazy like look because that male friend I think men too like when when men are in a relationship with women it's a red flag that man have a bunch of female
03:02:36TTS Readerfriends grid One Motorsports donated $100 thanks buddy the delusion factor is super high if as a female you think you have a male friend that is not just
03:02:46Karen (Serena)waiting for the moment you give him the chance that's it is delusional I have one who literally treats me like if I'm his little brother yeah that is true you
03:02:56Karen (Serena)but have you tried has anything sexual have you have you if you tease it you'll see that I just did I sent it this is going to be embarrassing for me but I sent it I'm going to see what he's going
03:03:08Brandon Tatumto say oh sorry he'll probably be like no you're hella of fat get out of here the differ between a guy that's not that you think is not attractive to you but if it came down to it he probably would do it and and I'm telling you it's
03:03:20Brandon Tatuma red flag for women be cautious if a guy has a bunch of female friends because you are that female friend that if he's waiting for you to say something and maybe he'll be intrigued to do it right it's not that doesn't that then
03:03:34Eileenthat doesn't then you can then that doesn't go into like you can't have male friends you can sure on you're in in a relationship you cuz it's your friend they're going to respect that they're not going to be like with you 24/7 you
03:03:46Brandon Tatumknow no now it's the boyfriend cuz you have a boyfriend yeah but they wait they're are they going to encourage your relationship and stuff like that no they're they're going to be waiting for when you break up with that dude who you going to text your friend again and it's
03:03:58Brandon Tatumthat they kind of building a relationship with you and I guarantee you if you gave them a time a day they'll they will more than likely take it there if you tried to kiss one if you tried to kiss one of these friends they
03:04:08Karen (Serena)probably'll do it okay yeah but it's on the girl though we know it's a friend well not this one another one did but it's he said Cho can I can I I'm going
03:04:19Juliato say want a when I get back just us is that fine what say it again hey want to hang hang when I get back just us is that okay is that no no no no that wasn't from the guy that that's what she's going to say I thought you said he
03:04:32Juliasaid that to you I'm like he's telling you he don't want to hang around people anymore but have you have you hung out with him no not not just him and I how about a winky face okay fine
03:04:43Brian Atlasthat way some guys my friend is probably watching the podcast so he's not answering yeah also the guy has to be single obviously if you're going to ask this guy in a one of your male friends in a relationship it's not going to work
03:04:54Juliano he is on Eastern time he's on Eastern time we pop out of I send it to my oh really okay I I have a question also do
03:05:05Brian Atlasyou think guys like are okay with dating older women we'll come to that in just a sec let me just we we will come back to that though cuz I would send it to my
03:05:14Juliacurrent Crush but H but I don't want to that yeah we're we like we yeah well it's he's younger wait your current Crush that that was not in the notes I'm
03:05:25Juliasorry that sorry that was an add moment I got SED I'm not dating anyone no I just have a crush on a guy but I I'm I don't but is he younger than you is that why how young he's like oh my gosh I'm
03:05:37TTS Readergoing to expose myself just say it it's fine just don't do it he's like early to mid 20s just say his age age 23 n undated
03:05:47TTS Reader99 okay are you sure it's not 22 thank you I'm sure hey Siri call Mom what hey Siri hey niolo call mom
03:05:59Yasicawho's Sir Siri the phone oh I think it maybe who got the text is that you I didn't no okay I got a text
03:06:11Brian Atlashe said you know where I work just stop by you know where I work just stop by yeah who said that H he might this this might have whooshed over his head that's why that's I'm like it could he might
03:06:23Claudianot no that's not a whoh over the head that's just a that's like a but why would he say stop by my words that's where there's other people that's a weird vibe the last message think it's not clear I think it wasn't direct
03:06:35Juliaenough wait what he sent me a heart like he was like best of luck tonight heart like a full heart so like I think he would watching he's probably say watching hi if you're watching text us
03:06:46Karen (Serena)and say okay I want to know what he said in the text oh did you get another text back message back uhoh he said I'm just going to sleep right now I got to wake up at 2:30 a.m. for work what made you
03:06:59Brandon Tatumall of a sudden want to cuddle I want to know okay he's down I'm pretty sure he's down he like you been friends on all this time what's on your mind yeah can
03:07:08Dianayou send this back send send back um what are you doing night I feel like this is high school man you know what that poor guy you know what you're going to do to him then he's going to get all
03:07:19Eileenlike I already know how he is know he's going to get cuz I know him I know him I know girls don't have guys come on so they they will obviously will take a change with whoever that's what I'm
03:07:31Karen (Serena)saying that's why you can't have these friends lingered around because are you really are these guys could be interference cuz you're let them just it's just like it's just like being a lesbian I'm not going to be a lesbian to
03:07:43Brian Atlasher her her I'm going to be a lesbian to who [Music] I'm uh one thing for you really quick didn't you say that one of your male
03:07:54Brian Atlasfriends you used not used him but you he was the guy that you went to to talk about like relationship problems no he or maybe I'm mising my
03:08:07Brian Atlasneighbor would talk we would talk he would talk to me about his girl problems oh he would talk to you about his girl problem provide my sage with and would you ever talk to him about
03:08:16Brian Atlasyour boy problems yeah yeah with yeah I I would oh yeah okay so then that's even worse because a guy who wants to sleep
03:08:25Brian Atlaswith you if you're hold on guys if uh you are asking a guy who wants to sleep with you his Counsel on your current relationship he's probably going to be
03:08:37Karen (Serena)like yeah you should end that cuz he wants a chance at you but go ahead what's uh you got the text coming oh the guy I said what are you doing Friday night he said Friday night come this Friday coming up I have my kids it's my
03:08:48Karen (Serena)weekend you want to link up let me know we'll make some time or whatever you like or what Vindicator girl I don't know why people think we just making this stuff up I'm
03:09:00Karen (Serena)telling you I mean don't don't ruin your relationship want Fu guys they want to you this the the one the one that I said that we're we're literally just friends and he treats me like a little
03:09:11Karen (Serena)brother the guy who did you just texted that's another one I'm W okay but is that the the first guy or the second guy this is the second guy but I'm waiting for a response would be the third we're
03:09:21Unknowntwo for two so far two for two have you heard back nothing have you heard back yeah he's watching hi oh okay wait wait which I think is really sweet no no after you get off the show
03:09:33Juliahe will tell you what you really think wa wait what's his name Aldren Aldren Aldren Al I didn't name him Aldren
03:09:43Brian AtlasAldren great name Aldren y yo Aldren Aldren hold on let me let me look him in his eyes Aldren please text her text her
03:09:53Brian Atlasright now do you have feelings for Aldren only as a friend really okay be honest Aldren honest Aldren
03:10:04Brian Atlasokay look she's got she's in a beautiful red dress to me right now she's in a beautiful red dress would
03:10:14Brian Atlasyou do a little premarital cuddling with uh our friend over here what why are you looking at me that way what Julia unless he's gay Julia sorry I'm terrible unless he's gay he's not no no
03:10:27Brian Atlashe's not well then he probably would is he single is he single is he single yeah and he probably what does he have to lose nothing I don't know so he probably would speaking of aldrin's um qu this is a little light question
03:10:40Juliathen I'll bring it back to some of the heavier she says she knows who my type is she said what H he said she knows who my type is you're not his type maybe not I don't know what's his type
03:10:51Brian AtlasAldren what's your type of course she doesn't know what your type is Aldren okay question for the ladies is there is there ever a guy's name where he could
03:11:02Brian Atlasbe fantastic but his name is a deal breaker like Bartholomew or some what my little B probably cuz I'll find a way to make his name better you know like if you're getting intimate I don't
03:11:15Brian Atlasknow if like a girl no offense Aldren I don't know if a girl could be like oh Aldren like you know Al I'm so sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry Aldren I'm not trying nicknaming I'm not
03:11:25Brian Atlastrying to dunk on you Virgil but vir but like if I was with a girl like uh Ursula I'm not like oh Ursula like I'm
03:11:37Brian Atlasnot I couldn't I couldn't Dirty Talk unless unless unless Ursa got it like that I don't know I don't know if I could say like that Vera is not even the worst it could be
03:11:47Brian Atlaslike you us of course you say what look if you I'm a little vocal you know in
03:11:53Brian Atlasthe when it comes to I'm vocal I'm vocal so like I'm not g to g Gertrude huh like huh I can't be like dirty talking with
03:12:06UnknownGert you know what I'm saying so you just created a nickname for it you want to call it bab GG something else I don't know anyways okay say what what did he say
03:12:16Brian Atlasdid he respond Sayulita what the respond I'll I'll text him what's that what's that song Gasolina Gasolina
03:12:27Juliayeah it reminded you of all right he may have gotten mad about the name thing no wait wait short oh he said short oh well I'm 5'8 so okay
03:12:39JuliaI'm with him on the short thing hey this is guy that's a friend you always talk about height discrimination for women so look at this doesn't exist it's here's a man he'd still have sex with you
03:12:50Juliadefinitely I think he's just salty we're Christians so we'd never admit it I think he's salty about you saying that he's just your friend well yeah I agree secret life of Aldren secret life of
03:13:06Brian AtlasALDS you're not as tight okay um so let's get back to the serious pressing questions here uh aen Eileen I'm sorry I'm sorry okay
03:13:16Brian Atlasum let us know keep us posted when you hear back from him okay uh well I think I already just to wrap up on the friend thing I think it's the same thing like you should not date women who go to bars clubs parties Etc oh okay we have
03:13:29TTS Readeroffender donated dirty talk with a dude named guy would be very weird just saying dirty talk I have friend with a dude named guy
03:13:40Yasicayeah like his name guy I'm so I'm so happy I knew a guy named guy in high school that's so what's up guy I love you guy yeah sounds
03:13:51Brian Atlasweird my friend's name is guy and is just weird to call him guy guy I'm trying to think of some like weird guy names um Cornelius could be kind of weird
03:14:03Karen (Serena)Cornelius Herbert Herbert Herbert Herbert can you think of my my brother we used to we called him baby to he was like like um old enough to realize that
03:14:15Juliahis friends calling him baby sounded weird then they got rappers name baby little baby oh yeah true grow me that's the easy fix though for bad names you
03:14:26Brian Atlasjust call them baby or just the first letter of their name sure okay that's fair all right uh let's see going out with your boyfriend should it be 50/50
03:14:36Brian Atlasshould man be the provider 100% that was your question yeah is that should we open that we we could open that up to the panel I guess uh so going out your boyfriend should it be 50/50 or
03:14:48Brian Atlasshould the man be the provider 100% and we'll go around the table go ahead I think if he invites he pays if I invite I pay provider 100% 100% even cuz
03:15:00Brian Atlasyou said first date the guy should pay but then afterwards you're a bit more open to I mean it okay oh you're walk in the back okay she's walking the back folks she's looking at that bank
03:15:11Dianaaccount okay this is how I feel like if I really really like him then y I got him but what I don't like is if a guy takes me out right and then he and then
03:15:23Dianahe does this hey next time you got me that that I don't like that you're Noir I got a guy that I don't like he we literally went for chip and wait say that
03:15:38Eileenagain chipot I don't know chot I know you put a little Spice in it yeah I know
03:15:47Eileenum so we went and then while he was paying he looked at me and he's like you got the next one right and I'm like there's not going to be a next one yeah like
03:15:59Dianasorry but yeah so you said you want a provider 100% yeah okay and then for you it's if he's really hot you'll be a sugar mama no I'm not being No Sugar
03:16:10DianaMama but if I if it's later on down the road and I do it on my own cuz I want to do it how far well how far later on down the road later like because first until
03:16:20Brian AtlasI feel like it if I earlier you said first date then it can be yeah but you know I shouldn't have said that okay oh okay all right so how far 3 months into the relationship then you'll start
03:16:31Dianapaying maybe it depends okay okay wait so how far in I don't know maybe three or four months if he he doesn't if he doesn't ask me if he doesn't ask me I will do it on my own like when I feel
03:16:43Brian Atlaslike it but okay so for the first three or four months while you're getting to know a guy you want him all the dates that you go on he you want him to pay I'm not saying I'm not saying hey that
03:16:54Brian Atlasthere's that's wrong he should oh okay well that's a bit he's asking me to go out he should pay for it but that's a bit different that's a bit different than what you said before but that that again reinforces the conversation that
03:17:06Brian Atlaswe were having before about how you said well you have your together you're a successful woman you make good money mhm you want a guy for the first 3 to four months of the relationship to pay for everything this is another again
03:17:19Dianathis is why men frankly don't give a about the money that it's not really like like three or four months like okay be it could be it could be in a month or so right like let's like realistically like let's say so how many
03:17:30Brian Atlasdates is that 5 10 yeah like five maybe you know and then I could be like you know I care about your success and money when even despite your success and money you're not
03:17:42Brian Atlasyou want the guy to pay for everything no that's not what I'm saying I don't want to always depend on shifting that conversation a little bit but but I'm just trying to articulate a lot of women are like oh my career
03:17:55Brian Atlasthat's what I bring to the table my money My Success because what guy is going to want to be with a girl who's not doing anything with herself doesn't have nothing in the but it doesn't make you more attractive obviously we don't want like a woman who's destitute who's
03:18:06Brian AtlasIndigent who who's like really struggling financially who has a ton of debt obviously it's that she not be like financially illiterate and just irresponsible with
03:18:17Brian Atlasmoney however it doesn't make you more attractive in the same way that a woman might be attracted to a guy who has like some degree of wealth can I ask you
03:18:27Dianasomething sure okay would you feel would it make you feel less of a man if the girl made a lot more than you would that would you have a problem with that would you have a problem if you with somebody and this girl was like she
03:18:40Dianahad it up there right but you really liked her okay sure but would it make you feel less of a man if she's the one that had all the money me personally no like would you it would make me feel
03:18:50Brian Atlaslike less of a man but I would be aware of okay she's very successful typically if you're very successful you need to you need to cultivate certain personality traits that
03:19:02Brian Atlasare um you're probably going to be much more assertive you might be a bit more in your masculine um listen business is Cutthroat so you're going to probably as a woman you're going to probably start leaning a bit more into
03:19:14Brian Atlasyour masculine and it's not really going to be an issue with me but it may very well be an issue with her me personally look some guys 100% some guys might be intimidated they might have an issue with it but me personally if a girl made
03:19:26Brian Atlasmore money than me I wouldn't care about the money component I might care about what other underlying things are related to the fact that she makes that much
03:19:36Brian Atlasmoney and is she is she going to feel like the same thing with height I would say most men would be willing to date women that are taller than them
03:19:46Brian Atlaslike I feel like most men it's not men might have a preference for a woman a slight preference for women who are short I don't even know I mean look some men like petite women but I think if you
03:19:59Brian Atlasask most men it's not a deal breaker if the girl is tall or taller than them however for most women it's certainly a deal breaker if the guy is shorter than them like that's a for most women that's
03:20:10Brian Atlasan issue yeah so in that same way it's not so much that like the guys will think oh maybe they'll avoid a tall woman because they know that the tall
03:20:20Brian Atlaswomen would have an issue dating dating them because they're shorter I think that's where it comes from it's not inherently that men have an issue with dating taller women or or dating women who make more
03:20:33Eileenmoney than them me personally I it wouldn't bother me if the girl makes more money than the guy uh will you want her to pay for everything thing the funny thing is I feel like most women even if they make more money than the
03:20:46Brian Atlasdude they still want the guy to pay for things right true so like I remember I this was this was like 10 years ago or something uh before like I you know before I was successful I was on a
03:20:59Brian Atlasdating app I matched with this woman who's an attorney and she's probably litigation attorney who probably making $200,000 $300,000 a year or something and uh in her profile she said well uh
03:21:11Brian Atlasyou know I'm successful but I still want the guy to I still want to be treated like a lady and for you to pay for the first I'm like you make six figures like I don't know to me it's I mean look
03:21:23Brian Atlasthat's that's fine but so that that's the whole thing is like why don't men care about your career because we don't reap a benefit any Financial benefit
03:21:34Brian Atlasfrom your wealth or your career most women are not prepared to provide in the same way that men are prepared to provide true K is something about that
03:21:41Claudiasure um I think sometimes specific careers can translate to raising kids and if you're good at certain jobs you'd
03:21:52Claudiabe good at that so I think there's like a little bit of importance to that certain careers translate to like you mean like someone who daycare teach yeah like a
03:22:03Brian Atlasteacher would make a good mom right teachers Honestly though the thing is I actually disagree I think they might make a good mom but I think they make terrible wives
03:22:12Brandon Tatumbecause uh well because they are in a Authority H I don't know if this is I say I dated I dated a teacher I dated a teacher before and she was absolutely amazing she was organized she
03:22:25Brandon Tatumwas really good with children and I dated her when my son was really young so she was really good with him she didn't have to be at work year round you know in the summertime she's more flexible be at home but she was she was she was great I I I don't think her being a teacher was a negative I think
03:22:38Brian Atlasit was really great that she was a teacher it added value and I think you have to judge everybody on an individual level because certainly there could be anybody in any sort of career that could
03:22:49Brian Atlasbe a perfect partner and then like so but if we're speaking in generalities um but I feel like we're getting a little bit away from the point here and the
03:22:59Claudiapoint was more related to finances men don't necessarily care if a woman's successful but I think it is important to pay attention to what the woman's doing right like because if her
03:23:10Brian Atlasher life is um a mess then then she's just going to continue that I I will say I have dated women that are teachers
03:23:20Brian Atlasand I don't have a ton of experience but I did date a woman who was a teacher and she was very the way that she probably runs the
03:23:31Brian Atlasclassroom seeped into her personality a little bit and as a teacher you are you're an authority figure you're kind
03:23:38Brian Atlasof calling the shots and so if I recall correctly she was kind of like a caretaker then she was like
03:23:49Brian Atlastalking to me in the same way that she would talk to a kid I was like that's weird B she's a bit bossy and I was like no okay all right yeah I can see that
03:24:00Brian Atlasyeah I can see it I've heard consultants make great wives and mothers are you a
03:24:08Brian Atlasconsultant okay I look um so I don't know where I was going with it 505050 thing provider um okay we'll move
03:24:19Brian Atlason from that let's see uh men are used to not wait nowadays men are used to not paying for every paying not used wait men are used to not pay
03:24:31Brian Atlaseverything for the girl because us girls permitted that that's what you said yeah sorry if it wasn't good wording F it's fine I mean if you want to I think as a guy if
03:24:43Brian Atlasyou want to min max have the most success when it comes to dating you should probably pay for first dates but let me let me add this if if you're a guy and you cannot pay you shouldn't be
03:24:53Brandon Tatumdating y one one thing about men and I I tell young men that work with me I tell them they should wait until they're financially stable before they ever start dating if your mama's still paying your phone bill you shouldn't be dating
03:25:05Brandon Tatumwomen at all if you still living with your mama you shouldn't be dating women at all you should be focused on building your career building yourself as a man building your credit when you get yourself to the point where you're sustainable you're in your calling then
03:25:18Brandon TatumI think that's when you should start dating women because what happens is young men want to date a woman while she while he's down here and then he start to grow on the ladder and then he got to drag this woman up with him and now he's miserable I think men should get
03:25:30Brandon Tatumthemselves to a point where they're in their calling they're financially stable and they can date women in the range that they want to instead of settling and then trying to upgrade later I I I really do think it's valuable to do that
03:25:42Brandon Tatuma man should always pay that's that's how I feel and even if the woman got more money than my wife I think she was making more money than me when we first met just a little bit maybe a maybe 10,000 more a year I think it's
03:25:53Brandon Tatumsomething of that nature sure but it my goal was to impress her my goal was to show her that I'm a consistent man I'm a reliable man I'm financially stable and
03:26:05Brandon Tatumso it wasn't a what can you do for me it was like let me show you that this is what you get being with a man like me and I obviously I want it so yeah I and
03:26:13Brian Atlasoh go ahead Ryan I I'll just uh address that really quick like I would want to pay and be that guy for the r
03:26:24Brian Atlasgirl yeah my issue is that the current dating climate the current lands dating landscape
03:26:33Brian Atlasis and both men and women move in very shady ways when it comes to dating is as a guy okay you got a couple things right
03:26:46Brian Atlasyou have women who are promiscuous who or have a promiscuous past who have high body counts who did not hold themselves to a traditional standard currently or in their past in that situation I don't
03:26:57Brian Atlasfeel I feel like almost taken advantage of or like I'm a sucker I'm a mark for adhering to my traditional gender rules with a woman who is clearly not
03:27:08Brian Atlastraditional or did not have a traditional past certainly look can somebody can people have made mistakes in the past can they redeem themselves sure but certainly a woman who's
03:27:18Brian Atlascurrently not traditional I have very I have like this gut reaction like I'm a sucker if I pay for this girl and she's like dating other men she's um sleeping
03:27:31Brian Atlaswith other men like that's the way a lot of people move how long have you been married I mean four years oh okay I mean you been you were in the dating Marketplace I mean you know how people move like people are dating and sleeping with multiple people people at the same time maybe if you're like trying to
03:27:43Brian Atlasnarrow it down to you know Christian women not so although you know well we had a girl on uh two panels ago uh she said that
03:27:55Brian Atlasshe went she would she made it a goal to go on 50 dates with 50 men in 50 days I'll come back $100 men should date when they have
03:28:05TTS Readerreliable finances but paying for dinner on dates or even drinks with friends is a gesture I believe in there's just a lot of women who overestimate themselves
03:28:15Brian Atlasand misunderstand what the gesture means yo Mr mea very good to see you the chat man thank you very much appreciate it so I just don't want to feel like a sucker basically where oh and the girl who was
03:28:26Brian Atlason the panel two shows ago she said in a uh she went on a date with a new guy every single day and if I was date number 15 you just went on 14 dates she
03:28:36Brian Atlassaid she did two dates in uh in one day look we're not we just met we we're not exclusiv exclusive obviously but I would feel like man like she's not really
03:28:49Brian Atlasrespecting my time she's not really respecting that I'm making this traditional gender role gesture of paying for the first date by after our date she's going to go on another date
03:29:00Brian Atlasand she's got four dates lined up and then that's how that's like a granted she said this on the show I don't think I don't think most women are going on a new date every single day of the week
03:29:12Brian Atlasbut I've definitely had experiences I've gone on dates with a girl and I'll ask them so how's the dating life and they're like yeah I just went on like four dates this past week and I'm like well okay see like it to me and the
03:29:23Brian Atlasother thing the big thing the the worst thing the worst thing is if I go on a date with a girl and I pay for her food and then she's sleeping with another guy
03:29:34Brian Atlasthat I you know I might not be aware of cuz we just met right she takes the food that I paid for she gets get a tog go bag brings it over to the guy's house who she's sleeping with who by the way
03:29:45Brian Atlasnever had to pay who never took her out he's just hot dude and then she gives him the food that I paid for as my romantic traditional gender role well let me let me just say this let me no no
03:29:58Claudiano it's that was a hypothetical this is too specific is hypothetical I don't think it's happened to me but it's for sure my
03:30:09Brian AtlasGod no for sure this is like okay but you had that thought it's not even a thought there are for sure women who go out with dates on men to get a
03:30:19Brian Atlasfree experience to get a free meal and then while simultaneously having a guy that they're and they will meet up with the guy after they go on a date
03:30:30Brian Atlasthis happens all the time all the time girls girls have dudes in their phone Uber dinner like girls will go on a date with a guy and then after they'll give you the ass
03:30:43Brian Atlasout hug and then they'll go over to the guy house who they're who never paid for a date who never took them out he's just the hot like the hot dude and to me that just I don't know yeah it it
03:30:56Brandon Tatumhappens but what I would tell you if you were you know if I was giving some advice you're my father if I was your if I was your brother right I got too many kids
03:31:07Brandon TatumI'm shoot my shot here okay no but what I would say is that it's you know as a man you have to work through things before you're ready to date because it seems like you have a lot of things that have happened even the things you've
03:31:20Brandon Tatumread obviously you do a show you see a lot of women that are just complete bums and that really affects the way you perceive it and I'd say you're going to keep running into real negative situations if that's what your mindset
03:31:31Brandon Tatumis and I would say deal with those things within and then you'll be ready to to actually date when you're at the point where you don't care you're not thinking about what she's going to do
03:31:44Brandon Tatumwith this money you're at the point where you're meeting quality women that are that are primed and ready to really be in a relationship mature women and you take them on the dates and you have mature conversations I think that's
03:31:55Brandon Tatumwhere you I you know you got to meet like people do apps and stuff and and it's okay to do apps I people do it I think you will meet the person that's meant for you doing the things that you enjoy wait I have a question where where
03:32:07Brian Atlasdo you live currently are you in Arizona you're in Arizona okay California is is a lost cause so it's a failed Society it's a failed what are
03:32:19Brandon Tatumyou saying I live in California just look the I would say that the dating meta but where are you dating what what are the ages and where are you dating these women here in Sant so that's probably
03:32:32Brandon Tatumthe problem you you probably want to you probably want to cuz there's a bunch of young girls still trying to figure their St out I drove when we I was driving here
03:32:42Brandon TatumBo cannot believe how many women had booty out I mean women had no clothes on and so these women are really trying to figure number one party school like so so you in the wrong area if your Tinder search is hearing you swiping on these
03:32:55Brian Atlaswomen they all crazy the girl I was telling you who uh I I met her on a dating app I met her on hinge this was I don't know a couple years ago I think hinge is weird I mean I think these dating websites are weird but but so
03:33:06Brian Atlasthis girl she was 29 she had a high-paying job at a hospital six figures um un she was average looking unremarkable in every regard she told me
03:33:18Brian Atlasshe had just downloaded the app uh I was the fourth guy she went on a date with within a week of having downloaded the app she' already been on three dates she told me she had two date scheduled for the weekend and it's like this isn't
03:33:30Brian Atlasthis was like you look at her okay she works in the hospital she's got a respectable respectable career she seemed otherwise well put together this is just like how people people even
03:33:41Brian Atlasprofessional people are moving it's not just college kids um that are moving in this way even adult women around like uh mid 20s late 20s early 30s they're
03:33:54Brian Atlasseeing multiple people at the same time and I guess my qual when it comes to paying for the first date is I don't want to pay for on the first date for a girl who's another guy I think that I think that that's why
03:34:06Brandon Tatumfaith is that's why I think faith is really important yeah because it gives you a center and if you have faith in God and you're living the life that you believe is right according to what the Bible has said then you can go out and date people
03:34:19Brandon Tatumthat are kind of similar to you CU When You're just floating in the wind and you're dating people that that girl probably have no values that align with you other than the fact that she has a good paying job and she seems like she could add a little bit of value but y' y'all don't share the same values and
03:34:33Brandon Tatumthen you got to ask yourself the question what are your values Fair are your values that you do care about a person that's going to save themselves your value that you do care about a woman who has morals a woman who views herself and is stable and not dealing
03:34:46Brandon Tatumwith a bunch of trauma if that's your standard then when you are talking to these women you can weed them out or you're going to continue to run into these feminists that want to be wear the pants and the family and all of this stuff really quick point and I need to
03:34:58Claudia (overflow)move things on okay yeah I had a question about being this finances 100% provider um did your um um lady uh wife actually herself um do you like some
03:35:10Claudia (overflow)right like she herself stopped talking to her male friends did she herself like delete on her Instagram or like that like I I yeah that was something else
03:35:21Brandon Tatumlike stuff that some men um don't like sometimes in wom right my wife is mature enough and she she was but 36 when we met she's mature enough that she do understand that like it will be a conflict she can identify that these men
03:35:34Brandon Tatumthat are her friends are not her friends not conducive for a real relationship cuz she had been through terrible relationship and she wanted something different and so she made though I didn't have to ask her to do that you know my wife ain't putting a booty all on social media so
03:35:47Brandon Tatumshe she don't have to scrub her Instagram um my wife made a incredible amount of sacrifice she left her job my wife had a really good paying job making about 80,000 a year yeah and when we got
03:35:58Claudia (overflow)together she left her job in tears yeah but she was willing to make that sacrifice and now she's you know now she she she don't regret that that actually an important really that if you asked her if she did it on her own and that's
03:36:10Brandon Tatuma really strong conviction 100% but she was ready though she was a mature woman and she was ready she wasn't in her 20s still trying to figure her life out if you talk to my wife she'll say when I was in my 20s I was crazy she had to go to therapy and different things like
03:36:22Brandon Tatumthat and she's to the point where she was ready and I was ready and therefore I don't have to ask this childish stuff like how many people you slept with or can you delete your social media do you need you need to stop talking to these
03:36:32Brian Atlasdudes she already understand the game and so it worked really well for us thank you we have a couple chats here we need to get to just another guy hey thank you man I appreciate it Brian you often talk about your objection to
03:36:44Brian Atlascosmetic surgery #blm does that include bariatric surgery for example someone who is morbidly obese and gets a gastric sleeve surgery to help them lose weight would love to hear from the panel as
03:36:56Brian Atlaswell um do I object to bariatric surgery I
03:37:02Brian Atlasmean I'm not I don't know enough about about that to really have
03:37:13Brian Atlasuh I mean my knee-jerk response would be you should try to lose weight legit instead of resorting to a surgery which is kind of like a uh
03:37:27Brian Atlaswhat's it called a uh no there's another word like a shortcut thank you uh but perhaps for some people like it might be necess I
03:37:38Brian Atlasdon't know if if there's a medical indic for for having it done maybe they I don't know uh okay so uh would love to hear from
03:37:49Brian Atlasthe panel yes I'm against cosmetic surgery um when you say cosmetic surgery you mean breast implants you mean BX lip filler breast implants BBL lipo no Botox
03:38:00Brian Atlasno Botox which is not cosmetic I don't think that's not a surgery but surgery it's cosmetic but it's not a surgery well I'm against that too Botox I'm against yeah I I think I'd very much
03:38:12Brian Atlaslike to see women feeling happy with just how they are without the need for intervention what about makeup against makeup actually I'm against
03:38:24Juliamakeup are you impartial or youer are are you a you say who you think is wearing too much makeup do you think every one of us girls are wearing too much makeup on this panel to address your thing Brandon
03:38:35Brian AtlasI try to get a fight I am an anti- makeup terrorist
03:38:43Brian Atlaswhat is too much makeup well okay hold on though there's a difference I've you've been invited to a video live recording so for an event like this I it's it
03:38:56Brian Atlasmakes sense that women are going to dull up a little bit so now if you guys were to wear the degree of makeup you're wearing like to meet me for a first date there yeah there are women at the state
03:39:08Brian Atlaslike honestly anything more than Maybe little eyeliner to me is like a let down not going to lie but I'll tell a girl I'll be like yo you don't have to wear makeup first date what do you mean my
03:39:19Juliatype that's a very what happened with you and Emily Emily who she was on the podcast last week you asked her on a date oh we oh my God what are you talking about know what talk I watch did you guys actually go on a date you're
03:39:31Brian Atlasnot supposed to watch the full par yeah don't worry don't worry about it but um don't worry about it but uh what's my type yes okay here let me pull up my list cuz I have I've had to write it
03:39:42Brian Atlasdown because it's getting long really oh that's cute okay um but no spec okay here um looks let's talk looks
03:39:51Brian Atlasum I have a slight preference for petite funs siiz short women you and Aldren aldrin's a based um it's definitely fun
03:40:02Brian Atlasfunny telling women who are like five2 that they're too tall for me like a woman that's too tall um oh cuz I'm like short short like 411 is where it's at
03:40:12Brian Atlasborderline M dwarf borderline dwarf little person no no no you you serious are you playing I'm 100% serious I like sh women that's interesting that's really short yeah but here's the thing like it's not a deal breaker for me like
03:40:25Brian AtlasI have no I'll date a woman who's taller than me I have a slight preference for short women um never going to be a deal breaker uh whereas I think for most women height is a will be a deal breaker
03:40:37Brian Atlasfor 95% of women um especially for tall women yeah yeah well when I say height is a deal breaker for 95% women I'm saying that 95% of women would not date a guy who's shorter than them but I'd
03:40:50Brandon Tatumsay a much higher proportion of men would date a woman who's taller than them I would love to know how they would you guys not date a guy based on height is that a deal breaker for you yes I'm
03:41:00Brandon Tatumsaying at what height how what height minimum height bare minimum height for you how tall you and how tall are you
03:41:08Karen (Serena)I'm 5'7 with without heels okay and bare minimum height for a guy I I want to say 510 because even 5'9 but that's a deal breaker you if if you if the guy had a
03:41:21Eileenbunch of great qualities but he was an inch shorter you would say no an inch shorter than 5'7 yeah jeez that's a really hard one it's a deal breaker it's
03:41:31Eileena I'm 55 and I've dated guys like 56 5 S but I don't think come but when I whenever I put my high heels cuz I wear they're shorter and I don't care you
03:41:42Yasicaknow okay what about you I want them to be like 5'9 how tall are you 5'2 okay I'm 5'9 so they have to be 5'9 at least 5'9 got it my longest relationship was
03:41:55Juliawith someone that was like 3 or 4 inches shorter than me 3 or four Ines so you don't care u i mean you not it's not a deal break it's not a deal breaker this a two-year relationship three didn't I
03:42:07Claudia (overflow)say three was this the guy who met your parents no no no he was 510 yeah 5 okay what about you I'm 5'7 but I'll do 5'6 yeah I'm 6 feet tall is 6 feet 6 feet
03:42:19Brian Atlasper wow I me eye contact I think that's I like eye contact you are tall so uh but uh yeah height for me whatever doesn't matter okay strong preference no plastic
03:42:30Brian Atlassurgery so we're talking no fake tits no fake lips no BBL no lipo um and I really mean this when I say it I don't know maybe I'm G to sound like a s but I I think women are beautiful as they are
03:42:42Brian Atlaswithout needing to undergo dangerous expensive and frankly unnecessary cosmetic surgery which I honestly think makes women look worse no offense like I
03:42:53Brian Atlaswould for example and it's not like how do I explain this I would rather a woman who had small boobs or who was totally
03:43:01Brian Atlasflat over big giant faked tits M I'd prefer a little belly over a lipo belly
03:43:08Brian AtlasI'd prefer small over BBL I'd prefer a small upper lip over lip fillers um so how however the woman was before I would
03:43:19Karen (Serena)prefer her that way so you would prefer loose skin over a tummy tuck like loose skin from what like a pregnancy yeah
03:43:31Karen (Serena)sometimes sometimes it's not even from having a baby it can be from losing weight weight and you have a lot of excess skin in your stomach you prefer that over tummy I've seen that um would
03:43:42Brandon TatumI prefer that over a tummy tuck I mean would it be before or after I mean you date her she get it versus if she already had yeah most women don't have
03:43:52Brian Atlaslike but there is there's a lot of them a lot I mostly think I've dated women who have probably
03:44:02Eileenbeen not morbidly obese at some point in their life you have to note skinny there as well what youan in the notes you have probably so you only like skinny girls skinny girls I me well I mean okay so
03:44:15Brian Atlasbut we're going off a topic now cuz preference I would say I like I could get i' date a thick girl I like thick
03:44:25Brian Atlaswomen sure I like skinny women I like thick women but like uh you're saying you met her in order for women to
03:44:34Brian Atlashave like loose skin she at one point have had to have she she had have lost a lot of weight at some point correct so
03:44:45Karen (Serena)yeah and she's natural with the little loose skin like you meet her she's skinny and she's pretty and everything and she Tak her clothes up you prefer
03:44:54Brian Atlasthat do you prefer that over a tumy tuck yeah or she tell I've honestly I've never encountered a woman who was thin
03:45:03Brian Atlasbut she used to be morbidly obese so this is like a hypothetical scenario um I it's hard to say
03:45:12Brian Atlasum it's hard to say what about race oh what race like oh race yeah uh I would say any race although probably I admittedly slight preference for Asian
03:45:23Brian Atlaswomen or white women but I'll date a Latina I'll date a black woman like I to me it's it's not a deal breaker but yeah slight preference Asian women white
03:45:33Brian Atlaswomen cool Sorry ladies um okay uh let's see what what else um okay okay so none of
03:45:42Brian Atlasus I said I would date I would date a Latino woman I just don't are just like you guys I don't think Latino women like me
03:45:53Yasicathough I don't think Latina I'm too white you know I'm like L of my boyfriend is white so yeah but I'm not like I'm not a cool white guy I'm like a nerdy white guy you know actually
03:46:05Karen (Serena)you look like my brother he's blonde with blue eyes does so if you go to Mexico you will get a lot I go to Mexico and there's a lot of shorty girls there's a lot of short
03:46:18Brian Atlasgirls yeah and skinny with eyeliner no yeah they barely wear any makeup look with eyeliner kirvy curvy ain't the worst I like I a couple shows
03:46:29Brian Atlasago I said I like chubby Asian women huh he's a h listen I'm flexible okay with are you
03:46:38Brian Atlaswhat do you mean oh on the notes on the no no super flexible super flexible I'm flexible yeah I'm flexible but that's I think sometimes look I'm going to be
03:46:50Brian Atlashonest when it okay in the bedroom look a a big fat ass it's great to look at but for Speed it ain't always it ain't always like you know like okay