The Officer Tatum DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! | Dating Talk #107

Date: 2023-10-09

Duration: 5h 53m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (Dating Talk #217)>

KKaren (DT217)>

EEileen (DT217)>

DDiana (DT217)>

YYasica (DT217)>

JJulia (DT217)>

CClaudia (DT217)>

BBrandon Tatum >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brandon Tatum(guest)

SPEAKER_02Claudia(guest)

SPEAKER_03Eileen(guest)

SPEAKER_04Yasica(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Julia(guest)

SPEAKER_09Claudia (overflow)(guest)

SPEAKER_11Diana(guest)

SPEAKER_12Karen (Serena)(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteKaren reveals she just ended a 4-year lesbian relationship and discovered her "lesbian" girlfriend had been cheating with multiple men

“"I just recently found out that I was cheated on with a man... she cheated on me with a man... supposedly multiple men."”

QuoteClaudia discloses she was born with two cervixes (uterine didelphys) and jokes her self-rating should be doubled to 13

“"I would rate myself as a seven but I was born with two uteruses so I count it twice... I have two cervixes, if I had a husband he could touch them both."”

ControversyBrandon Tatum criticizes Fresh & Fit for giving immature advice to young men, saying they come from a broken place

“"I think they come from a very immature place, they come from a very broken place... the guy gave this young man such horrible advice about a woman and told him to go get a side chick."”

QuoteBrian shares story of asking injured girlfriend to prep cucumbers — she did it begrudgingly due to feminist programming, which led to their breakup

“"I had some cucumbers in the fridge, you think you could like prep them for me... I could tell by the chops on the cucumbers it was super begrudging... and that's when I knew."”

QuoteJulia admits she compromised her Christian standard of waiting until marriage with her non-Christian ex and felt most disconnected from God during that relationship

“"When I was in that relationship even though I was in love with him I felt the most disconnected from God and so I knew it was bad but I was like all of your feelings are just... ah."”

QuoteClaudia (psychologist) explains anxious attachment and why women are attracted to avoidant/exciting men

“"We like familiar things... what we find attractive and fun is those exciting adrenaline roller-coaster relationships... the nice guy that wants to go on a date is not clingy — he's treating you right — and that's what we find clingy."”

QuoteBrian delivers self-assessment that he would likely be the type to get divorced if he married

“"I feel as if like not all of us can be Brandon Tatum... I'm kind of the dude that gets divorced... it's kind of brutal self-assessment and self-reflection."”

QuoteBrandon Tatum explains how he manifested his marriage by envisioning it daily while flying alone

“"When I would fly on an airplane by myself I would envision me and my wife traveling together... I would already think about what me and my wife are going to do, our children... if you want it and you see it you believe it in your heart you pursue it."”

QuoteBrian catches Julia contradicting herself: she messaged before the show complaining about men dating younger women, but herself dated a man 14 years older and has a crush on a 23-year-old

“"You said in your pre-show messages 'why do men seek to date and marry girls way younger than them, look for partners your own age' — you recently dated a guy who was 44, a 14-year age gap."”

QuoteBrandon Tatum reveals he has a foot fetish and his wife already knows

“"I am a foot person really... and my wife watching and she already know, she already know."”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian introduces show with streamlabs/merch/BLM plugs; mentions four scheduled guests bailed the night before claiming a mandatory Sunday landlord meeting. Guests introduce themselves: Karen/Serena (38, Bay Area, dental, bisexual), Eileen (24, ASU engineering student, was on Enamórate), Diana (40, real estate, won't marry), Yasica (27, OnlyFans), Julia (29, DC tech consultant, Christian), Claudia (34, neuropsychologist, 2 cervixes), Kate (24, pastry chef), Brandon Tatum (36, Officer Tatum YouTuber, ex-cop, married).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Karen: single, just out of 4-yr lesbian relationship, ex cheated with men, now in a situationship. Eileen: single, last relationship 1.5 months (guy from Enamórate TV show). Diana: single 6 years, proposed to twice, sold both rings, doesn't want to get married, one adult son. Yasica: in 5-year relationship. Julia: single ~2 years, was in love with last boyfriend (non-Christian), last relationship ended Jan 2022. Claudia: single ~4 years, celibate. Kate: not fully captured. Brandon Tatum: happily married, wife changed name to Tatum legally.

Karen's Lesbian Relationship and Infidelity Revelation

Karen reveals her 4-year lesbian relationship ended when she discovered her girlfriend (who claimed to be fully lesbian) had been cheating with multiple men. The ex's former boyfriend (who she described as "obsessed" with her) had been visiting while Karen was out of town — visible on ring camera footage. Karen is bisexual; had prior relationships with men.

Women Attracted to Bad Boys / Exciting Men vs Nice Guys

Diana says she finds most men trash. Discussion of why women reward bad boys and find nice/reliable men boring. Brandon Tatum calls for women to reflect on what they present to attract those men. Brian says men respond to women's incentive structure. Guest from psychologist background (Claudia) explains attachment theory and anxious/avoidant attachment styles as root cause of attraction to exciting/unavailable men. Brian argues women both complain about toxic men and reward them.

Who Should Pay on Dates / Gender Roles at Home

Discussion of who pays on first date, second date, moving forward. Brandon Tatum says he always pays and finds it disrespectful for women to contribute. Brian shares story of girlfriend who was reluctant to prep cucumbers for him while he was injured due to "feminist mind virus." Panel split: most women say guy should pay first date; some open to reciprocating later. Brief discussion of making sandwiches — none find it demeaning.

Women's Careers vs Attractiveness to Men

Discussion of whether women's careers/income make them more attractive to men. Brian argues generally no — men are not looking for providers. Diana lists her accomplishments (real estate, insurance broker license). Brandon Tatum says men look for peace, softness, support — not competing careers. Julia makes point that women must support themselves while single but then conflict with what men want. Claudia/psychologist notes there is value in intellectual compatibility.

Officer Tatum's Views on the Red Pill / Fresh & Fit

Chat donor challenges Brandon Tatum for making "hit pieces" against Fresh & Fit while using similar talking points on a "red pill podcast." Brandon clarifies he is neither red pill nor green pill; his criticism of Fresh & Fit is that they come from a broken/immature place and give harmful advice (e.g., telling a young man to get a side chick). He disagrees with their demeaning approach to women. Brian says Whatever is not necessarily a red pill podcast and he brings on guests with different views.

The Chemistry / Spark Discussion

Julia describes an ex who was "perfect" but lacked chemistry and she couldn't reciprocate his passion. Brandon Tatum argues the spark/click can be overrated and that mature love is practical; he and his wife didn't have a dramatic honeymoon spark. Brian questions why women chase the click when it has no bearing on a partner's long-term quality. Panel discusses whether chemistry can develop over time vs. needing to be instant. Julia mentions a 23-year-old crush she met on a Christian retreat.

Christianity, Waiting Until Marriage, and Body Count Standards

Extended discussion centered on Julia's Christian faith and celibacy standard. Julia explains her conversion at 19, her standard of waiting until marriage, how she violated it with a non-Christian ex (January 2022 breakup), and her now-firm rule to only date practicing Christians. Brian challenges the consistency of a woman's new standard after prior sexual activity — men may feel scammed. Brandon Tatum gives nuanced view: Christian men should appreciate a woman genuinely trying, regardless of past. Discussion of pair bonding, body count as proxy for female selectivity, whether low-BC women bond more intensely.

Hypergamy and Dating Apps — Women Chasing Up

Brian delivers extended monologue on hypergamy and dating app dynamics: top 5-10% of men get most female attention on apps; attractive men will sleep with average women but never commit; average women misread sexual access as being in that man's league; they then reject men actually on their level. Brian uses the "6 can get sex from an 8-9 but never commitment" framework. Panel partially agrees. Julia says the best strategy for a woman is not sleeping with a man quickly if she wants commitment.

Marriage vs Committed Cohabitation

Brian questions whether there is a meaningful difference between legal marriage and a committed monogamous life-partnership. Brian expresses a premonition that he would be the type to get divorced. Brandon Tatum pushes back: negative self-talk is the problem, and Brian should manifest a positive marriage instead. Claudia/panel argue marriage has religious, romantic, and social commitment value. Brian says it's pathetic that vows mean nothing in modern divorce culture.

Age Gap Relationships

Brian catches Julia in a contradiction: she messaged before the show saying "why do men seek to date women way younger — date your equal," but she recently dated a 44-year-old (14-year age gap) and has a crush on a 23-year-old (6 years younger). Julia acknowledges the irony. Brian and Brandon discuss how men are biologically attracted to women at peak fertility/physical attractiveness. Discussion of data showing women view 80-90% of men as unattractive; average age gap at marriage (~2 years). Brandon shares his wife wanted a man 10 years older but ended up with him (5 years younger).

Men Showing Emotions / Vulnerability in Relationships

Julia says she finds men showing emotions healthy and affirming. Brandon Tatum says he would never cry in front of his wife; he processes emotions privately or with male friends. Brian argues women lose attraction when men display weakness/vulnerability. Brandon distinguishes between vulnerability in appropriate settings vs. breaking down in front of a woman. Panel compares showing emotions in war/dangerous situations. Julia shares story of her father crying with her over her struggles being single at 29.

Self-Ratings and Body Count Round

Quick self-ratings round (1-10, looks only). Karen: 8. Eileen: 9. Diana: 7. Yasica: 8. Julia: 6. Claudia: 7 (jokes "13" due to two cervixes). Kate: not clearly captured. Brandon Tatum: not asked (male guest). Body count round: Karen: 5. Diana: 50+. Julia: under 10. Claudia: 3 (less than her age). Eileen: significantly less than 24 (Brian jokes multiply by 3). Yasica: not clearly captured.

Transcript

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Brian Atlassubscribe before we have our guests introduce themselves um a lot of you have been asking about the thumbnails Brian why do you put AI girls in the thumbnails this is a new thing I've started doing um and it just basically

Brian Atlascomes down to women cancelling last minute or no showing so I'm I'm kind of getting tired of constantly having to redo the thumbnails last minute or after the show because of flaking you know taking them out putting someone else in

Brian Atlasum if I schedule like 10 girls on average at least four going to flake in under 24 hours I've done over 100 shows that's just it's the rule not the exception um we had four girls scheduled for today group of them they bailed last

Brian Atlasnight claiming they had a mandatory meeting with their landlord on a Sunday at 6 p.m. sounds valid right um so uh honestly and the crazy thing is guys doing this show a lot of you think I'm stressed out doing the show it's

Brian Atlasactually not so much doing the show it's basically booking everybody and uh scheduling 20 people every single week hoping they show up um it like it kind of sucks the life out of you it's a lot

Brian Atlasharder than people think doing like guest booking and stuff so um I'm going to probably have to delegate that so ni Nick's probably going to get on that pretty soon um what else do we have have

Brian Atlashere uh I think there's just I it happens every single show guys so sometimes I mention it sometimes I don't but just assume every single show we're dealing with flakes we're dealing

Brian Atlaswith people like no shows people relate so it is what it is um so sorry for our delay once again and you're dealing you're going to be dealing with that sort of stuff when it comes to dating but we can get into that a little bit later anyways without further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce

Karen (Serena)themselves so please tell us your name age and occupation go ahead my name is Karen also known as Serena I 38 I'm from the Bay Area and I work in

Eileenthe dental field 38 okay welcome thank you hi my name is Eileen I'm 24 years old and I'm uh studying at ASU as an

Brian AtlasIndustrial Engineer okay um do you do content creation did I see that or I do yes what you Tik Tok oh just Tik Tok and Instagram yeah you're not like doing o

Dianaor anything no I'm not gotcha what about you Diana I'm 40 I'm in the DI General field and real estate agent all right

Yasicawelcome my name is yasica you can find me at roka.com and I do only fans age

Brian Atlas27 okay and you do you do o correct yes you do traditional scenes or like do you do

Juliaprawn um everything just me did you do solo content PG girl girl what do you do uh just solo content just okay gotcha what about you my name is Julia I am 29

JuliaI'm from Washington DC and I'm a consultant for technology firm all right welcome oh my name is Claudia I'm 34 and

ClaudiaI'm a neuropsychologist my name is Kate I'm 24 and I'm a pastry chef at Moonstone

Brandon TatumGrill all right my name is Brandon um I'm 36 years old and I do so many things I don't know which one to pick but uh I

Brian Atlasdo a YouTube channel the officer Tatum um how long have you been uh and well were you uh you were in the military previously right no I was a police officer I for some reason I thought you were in the

Brian Atlasmilitary before you were a police officer no no no I knew you were a police officer but I thought even before that okay I had aspirations to do it but but uh I just became a cop at what age did you uh get into law enforcement I

Brandon Tatumthink I was about 23 years old 23 and so from what year to what year were you uh how long were you in the force about 6 and A2 years from 2011 to 2017 gotcha and then you started doing content creation yeah yeah I was doing

Brian Atlasconiguration while I was a cop and then it just led to me doing it full time did you get into like any trouble no people love me okay the cops love me I I was like the voice of the police department so that's awesome cool cool cool all right we're going to go around the table

Brian Atlasonce more so tell us your current relationship status so are you single are you in a relationship talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits married polyle

Brian AtlasHarum sex cult people are all kinds of interesting and different situations uh so tell us that if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in

Karen (Serena)go ahead I'm currently single I just got out of a 4-year relationship in May I was in a lesbian relationship MH um and

Brian Atlasright now it and in a situationship okay you're currently seeing somebody sneaky link yeah a sneaky link okay for those who don't know what a

Karen (Serena)sneaky link is what's a sneaky link cuz some people might not know it's somebody that you're seeing but you don't want nobody to know or they don't want it's kind of like a secret situation okay I

Brian Atlassee um and you said so your previous relationship which was four years you said that was a lesbian relationship are do you consider yourself to be lesbian are you by what do you I'm bisexual you're by okay and the woman who you

Brian Atlaswere were with was she by or was she lesbian H she uh claimed to be

Karen (Serena)lesbian claimed to be a lesbian yes but but there's a but it sounds like

Karen (Serena)uh so I just recently found out that um I was cheated on uh with a man she cheated she got with a man she

Brian Atlascheated on me with a man was was there more than one man multiple men supposedly from what I heard wow okay

Brian Atlasyeah and you thought she was full-blown she was full like lesbian but she had sex I guess that doesn't really make her

Karen (Serena)a lesbian then right that would make her maybe buy exactly so she was misleading with her um yeah it was she was she was hiding in it she was hiding it really

Karen (Serena)well okay all right I mean I had my you know suspicion that you know some things are just the things that she would tell me and the fact that her boy would come

Karen (Serena)over on the weekends that I was out of town even though there was a ring camera so you know there was this one time where I kind of like I thought it was really suspicious were you you guys were living together yeah we were living

Brian Atlastogether oh so you had access to the camera yes and you'd see a guy coming over I see her friend M oh oh you you thought it was a friend her boy yeah

Karen (Serena)okay homeboy but they were really lovers I so supposedly before me they were boyfriend girlfriend okay and I so they had a history yeah they had a history she

Karen (Serena)didn't tell you that she didn't she just said that he was super in love with her and he was like obsessed with her she would do anything so he agreed that he he can only be he

Karen (Serena)would only you know be friends with her what was your reaction when you found out definitively that she was cheating on you and my heart dropped and I was like

Karen (Serena)I my my my facial expression I think lasted like this for like a whole week because I was so shocked it stuck it was just it was just like it was more of a oh my God I was coming home and you know

Brian AtlasI was putting my mouth on you and there was a man in there you know there was what a man in there oh okay yeah so okay yeah good times good times um un

Brian Atlasexpected threeome do you mind me asking what um wait hold on if you're going to speak you got to speak into the mic okay you got to be like close to the mic go ahead um do you mind me asking what you consider yourself I'm bisexual oh I'm

Karen (Serena)bisexual okay thanks and like your previous relationships were they um I've had my real real

Karen (Serena)relationship ship have been with men okay before her but I did have again sneaky links with women got it okay what

Eileenabout you you're uh yeah so I'm single um my last relationship was like um a month and a half or two months and my

Eileenlongest relationship uh it was 2 years and a half your last relationship it was you a month and a half ago yes ago how and how long was that relationship a month and a half

Brian Atlasoh your last relationship was a month and a half and it was a month and a half ago yes I see okay all right have you had a rebound since I have not was that the rebound cuz I that could have been

Brian Atlasthe rebound that was the rebound I guess was it the rebound of the rebound of the rebound if you want to say it yet like

Eileenthat well I don't know you tell you tell me I don't think so no cuz I was like single for like probably 2 years and a

Eileenhalf and then I got in this relationship before my other one so yeah your friend there is smiling like she knows something that you're not telling us you know something good no okay good see I

Brandon Tatumcan figure I can figure out who's saying what by their friends reaction cuz I saw her react to something she said and I saw her react to something was on a like

Yasicakind of like a not dating show you were on the dating she was going on dates with different guys to find that guy the love of my life to find the love of your

Eileenlife well yes supposedly yeah what was the dating show it's a Latino show The Bachelorette no it's a Latino show yeah

Claudia (overflow)so it's like televised can I say the name yeah yeah oh it's called enamor oh my God she knows I guess she watches the

Claudia (overflow)show the no I was on it really oh yeah I but I W this this is your turn so yeah but yeah I did dated that guy from that

Dianashow for a month and a half okay all right okay what about you um I've been single for like six years the longest relationship was about

Dianaalmost four four years were you married hell no hell no uh-uh I will never get married I've been proposed to twice and I took the ring and then I sold it both of them proposed to twice mhm took the

Brian Atlasring you sold the ring both of them they got money for them how much did you pwn them for one was like 15 and the other one was almost 2,000 okay yeah all right

Brian Atlasso uh never want to get do you have kids I have one I have one adult one adult adult yeah he's not a kid anymore how how old he's 19 okay so you were like 21

Brian Atlaswhen you had your I was 20 I was 20 when I had him I turned 21 to months after okay gotcha got it okay uh so you said you've been single for six years yeah

Brian Atlasbut I'm sure there's been some people in the picture in that time to yeah um are you currently talking to a guy no there's no guy in the picture no nothing NOP no sneaky links zero sneaky link I

Dianadon't have patience for a guy I'm I'm busy with my life right now and I just I don't have the patience for one okay I don't zero patience for men zero zero okay are have you sworn men off have you

Brian Atlassworn them off like tell them like to off no no no like in general generally speaking you you've sworn off men like you just no longer want to deal

Dianano I mean I'm pretty sure the perfect one will come along the right one will come along just right now they're they're all trash all all men are they

Dianathe ones yeah why did you say that because a lot of them a lot of them I've had tried to come at me where I would find out they were married or they had girlfriends because I'd all of a sudden

Dianaget random people people messaging me how do you know so and so you know and then I'd find out so it's like it's just

Dianagarbage okay so she said all men are trash pretty much I mean I'm pretty sure

Brian Atlasthere's like a percent there that that's not you'd say more more more so trash than not trashh what percentage would you have to say like what percentage of

Brandon Tatummen are trash do you think what per all ages honey cuz I have there's young guys that try to come to me older guys that try to come to me and they're just you saying all men that you have dealt with are trash are you are you making a

Brandon Tatumprojection that you think the men that you haven't communicated with yet are trash all the guys that have tried to come towards me are trash mhm Ju Just a reminder everybody

Dianajust try to speak into the microphones if you can get close to him um so what percentage 90% 95% like sure like let's say

Diana7.77 yeah cuz I'm going to leave a small percentage cuz there probably really is good guys out there but then if they're the good guys then they're they're boring you know it's just it's kind of

Dianathey're oh that's interesting you know like they there could be the good guys that do try to come and talk to me and they're just they're you don't like the good guys what you I mean okay I like

Dianahim to be I I wish there was a solid guy right like a funny solid guy that has his things going for himself that has all the things that I have going for

Dianamyself but it's like you either get a good guy and he's boring or you get a guy who's not boring but he's trashy know where where are you meeting these guys good question good

Dianaquestion just everywhere H just where they approaching where they approaching you it doesn't matter I could be at a store it could be anywhere what's the first thing they say to you when they approach you do you have a man what what's the next

Dianaone um can I get your number what's your name are you from here and I'm assuming that at least one of those guys you've given your number out and you've communicated no I won't give them my

Diananumber I'm saying at some point you've communicate with somebody not them not them okay what makes them boring personality what what about their personality makes them boring like if

Dianathey're just like like they're just like a boring type that there's no personality they're not funny they're just very plain like Bland like that's boring to me and what about

Dianathe bad guy excites you it's the chase right it's the Chase and the bad guy I don't know I check all the C wa wait let her answer let her

Dianaanswer go ahead the bad guy what is it about the I don't know maybe it is the chase I don't know it could be the chase it could well they're exciting right it's the looks it's the looks the looks mhm

Dianawhen you say looks what do you are we talking like blasted tatto yeah I like tattoos no not the face tattoos that's what people think I like people think I like face tats I don't like the face tats but I do like a guy with tattoos do

Claudia (overflow)you like uh I'm probably the wisest person ever saying this do you like a gangster yeah like a thug so then well that's your problem so

Claudia (overflow)then you're going to keep repeating a pattern you already have a pattern so then you're going to keep seeing the same same guy so yeah so then how do you plan to get a nice guy see but but that's not true though because like I

Dianasaid there's the boring type of guys that are also tatted up too and they're not they're not bad they're they're just it's the personality well when you say they're boring how are they like they're

Dianajust like I said no no personality they're just very Bland you know not only that but and then they're like too on me and I don't like that okay I don't like when a guy too much on me you got

Claudiato speaking I think that's like a self- love issue I think I think sometimes if you don't think that you are like you got to you got to speak you come closer sorry yeah I was just I was just saying

Claudiathat I think sometimes if you don't think that you deserve that kind of love you'll ignore it when it when it's there and you'll go after the person who's ignoring you because you think that you deserve

Claudiathat but even even if you think that you love yourself sometimes you can do that to yourself just m out of I don't know I've done it no I

Brian Atlasget what you're saying yeah wait so hold on so you said men are trash would you say like when you say trash you they're like kind of toxic

Brian Atlaskind of is that oh yeah they're very toxic but you just said that you dislike boring men and you like men who are like I just wish they were like bad

Brian Atlasboys and exciting so you are chall women often like I it seems to me that women often complain about men being toxic but this is the behavior that women reward

Brian Atlasso men see this you reward you reward jerks you reward the bad boys so men will see that there might genuinely be guys that were just always destined to be the bad boys but some men are

Brian Atlasgoing to start acting in a certain way that like we're responding to you guys mhm because we see okay if like you

Juliarespond to men treating you poorly then some men are going to treat you poorly but the men that normally like are bad boys have some degree of game

Juliausually that game comes from they've had lots of practice to like lots of women they have like a decent success rate so I do think like the the nice guys and then this type of behavior is training

Juliathem to become um toxic I don't think they would I don't think they would do that because toxic guys usually are they're good at

Brandon Tatumwhat they do I think she just wants a faithful gangster so a faithful gangster I think that's what she want that's in the DS that's crazy I mean not you but

Brandon Tatumthat sentiment seems crazy a faithful gangster but you know I I just wonder if you if you if you had to look if you looked in the mirror you say what are you in their eyes like what do you

Brandon Tatumrepresent do you think that you are a nice woman or you think you are boring you think you're exciting exciting all that yeah not boring oh hold on just

TTS Readercheeks donated $100 office at ATM please preach to the panel how illusional these women are and to bring them back into reality and how can you tell a man without speaking to

TTS Readerhim a man approaching a woman is him wanting you to know him without being rude majority time yo cheeks thank you very much man

Brian Atlasappreciate it um and officer Tatum please preach please preach um so sorry I think you were responding before what what I'm trying to what I'm trying to

Brandon Tatumbring out is that what are you presenting to attract these men who are you say are trashy and then what do you represent for a man just say the man

Brandon Tatumthat you want why would he want you would be the biggest question why would he want me because I have a lot going for myself right and I'm and I'm loyal and I don't do people dirty when you say you have a lot going for yourself what

Dianado you mean by that I have my like I said I'm a real estate agent I have my dental like I I have all these things going for me I'm working on my insurance broker's license like I have a lot going

Brian Atlasfor me and but do you think men are really preoccupied with your success or what you bring to the table financially I mean yeah do you think it makes it's

Brian Atlasgood I'm not saying it's a bad thing but do you think it makes you more attractive to men yeah who do you okay I I do want to get everybody's answer on the relationship status thing but really

Brian Atlasquick just to finish off the This Thread I who should pay on the first date the guy what about the second date I'll got it oh you you'll get the second date I got it what about like moving forward do

Dianayou still you want it to be more 50/50 moving forward I mean or if he if I feel that like he's worth it like I got it like I I'll take care of it or like if he gots it you know cuz I'm very like

DianaI'm a very chill person I don't expect the guy to pay for everything all the time why not why not because I just I don't like I just I don't think a guy should have to always pay for everything

Dianalike a guy do it feel good if your girl was take you out one time no no not for me for a lot of men it don't I mean I'm I'm the man I'm the man relationship but once in a while it she was to surprise you something no I don't I don't need to

Brandon Tatumsurprise my my whole goal my whole mission with my I'm married now but with dating or even marriage is my whole mission is to take care of the woman and so every date that we go on if we go on a date I'm paying for it and if I can't

Brandon Tatumpay for it we ain't going on a date I guess so I just think it's my duty to do that disrespectful to me for me to have a woman pay on any date if I can't afford it I shouldn't be dating unless she surprises you right how excuse me

Karen (Serena)unless she surprises you like hey babe we're going this place and it's like a surprise like they have candles and everything and she's paying for it she she made you believe that you're going to pay for it but she already has

TTS Readereverything paid well that happen JBS donated $69 what she just explained is exactly the problem there's plenty of good men out there but they're labeled boring and

TTS Readernot exciting it could be possible that your mindset towards relationships is trash as opposed to solely just men do you got a response to JBS here they they

Brandon Tatumhard on the but they going hard in the [Music] chat I mean I think I think it I think it's something to consider the question

Brandon Tatumis do you want to be in a relationship do you want to be do you want a a you don't want a relationship at all no okay then that makes sense yeah no then then that that explains that that guy that

Dianayou're looking for yeah I'm just I'm happy being alone later on in life maybe but right now how much later there's no time if it happens it happens I'm not I'm not looking for it I'm not worried about that yeah well the the point I was kind of trying to make

Brian Atlasis that and it sounds like you're kind of open to 50/50 if the whether that's the case or not I don't know but a lot of women will say well what here's what I bring to the table I've got a really

Brian Atlasgood job my finances are in place but then they're still going to expect the guy to be the provider so men aren't typically looking for women to be providers so your success in your career

Brian Atlasand your job that's wonderful that's great for you but from a purely phys like not not excuse me from a traction point of view your job does not make you typically for women does not make you

Brian Atlasmore attractive it's fantastic good you got a great job you've got your together that's wonderful but it's not going to make you more attractive for example in the same way and I'll get you

Brian Atlashere in just a sec uh a lot of women would say a male doctor is a catch but I don't think most men would look at a female doctor that hey that's a great career congratulations but I don't think

Juliait makes her more attractive what was your so what do you think men are looking for in terms of finding a high value woman well it's certainly not your your career yeah I think

Brandon Tatumit's the way it's the way that you act the way you treat a man you know how it is cliche is but it's are you a soft woman are you supportive of a man are you are you bringing peace to his life

Brandon Tatumare you chaotic right are you drama drama drama are you the type of woman that like my wife when I go home I'm going home to peace I'm not going home to chaos I'm not going home to a dirty house I'm going home to peace and and if

Brandon Tatumyou that you're that woman that's what men truly are looking for I mean that want to be in a real relationship now now there's other things that men are looking for when they just want to one night or they want to they want a sneaky kiky or whatever you say sneaky what is

Claudia (overflow)itne link sneaky link that's we should introduce that as a new term sneaky sneaky can I say one thing please to B back I think that there's also some I'm

Claudia (overflow)not saying that they that they it a a woman doctor but also the fact that that they value the fact that they can have a conversation with her about things like if he's a doctor as well

Claudia (overflow)that they can have a conversation together and the fact that if she is for example a psychologist that he will be able to bring um you know rais children

Claudia (overflow)in a matter of way with like coping skills or you know self- soothing those are just like things that I feel that a man should also look into that as to another woman who probably is just doing

Juliayou know other things that you know probably won't bring peace to the house that's are you looking for a good mother or a good wife when you are actually looking for a wife like are you looking more for motherly qualities first and

Brandon Tatumforemost or wely I think they're both I think they're both synonymous I mean good wife a good wife would be a good mother right a good mother would be a good wife I can't imagine a woman that's

Brandon Tatumreally well I think people can mess that up I think but I think generally speaking a man is looking for a person with both of those qualities and work and working sometimes is very like if a woman is got a career like you just said you said your career

Brandon Tatumis important to you you too busy for a man you know the man that probably would want to date you it gets turned off by that because you don't have no time for the relationship you're too busy doing that now he's not mad at you he don't he

Brandon Tatumdon't feel any way about you he just will be with a woman who has the time who can spend the time with him and add value to his life versus competing with the woman for whose career is more

Eileenimportant M I don't think that's like competition I think it adds up like to the value of the woman if she's doing good in life you know know if she has a nice job or like she has a company or

Eileenanything yeah it depends on what you want go ahead I'm sorry why why because you want to be successful for yourself as well you don't like of course if I marry someone yeah I want him to take

Juliacare of me but if I also have the money and I have a company I can also work and we can both be successful well to that point you have to like this is something that I think gets undermined where me

Julialike women are told they men don't care about your job fine but then we have to provide for ourselves because we're getting married later so then we're living this lifestyle where like okay I have a certain career I make a certain amount

Juliaof money I get used to that and then I do if I want to keep that I mean I guess I could go be a waitress and just really focus on getting a man but if I want to keep that I I want to keep my job and then the man thinks I have less time for him but that's not true you know so it's

Brandon Tatumwe're in this weird place I think yeah no I agree I think I think you got I agree to some of what you said I think it is you you are in a difficult place because when you you are single you can't just be homeless right you know hoping for a man to give you a handout

Brandon Tatumit's okay with pursuing your career but you then you have to balance what are your values and what do you want from a man if you want a man what if he wants children what are you guys going to do

TTS Readerabout that together donated $69 as a practicing male feminists and a believer in feminism I love dating a career woman and due to the oppression of women I love how the feminist side

Brian Atlasdate always pay for my dates go matriarchy we love career women and the boss babe mentality all right thank you being cheeks sorry we we actually uh the uh

Brian AtlasTTS trigger is 99 we have we accidentally did not reset it back so we're changing that now uh thank you cheeks appreciate it did you have more uh on that point yeah I was just saying I understand that women got to work to that point but then you have to balance

Brandon Tatumyou know what do you want out of life when it comes to be having a man if you want to be single that's totally great you can do you know do you be single that's fine but you can't depend on a guy no you you can't but if you you have to make the investment if you want to be

Brandon Tatummarried and you want a GU that's a good man that's a man that had value then it's worth the investment you know my wife had an incredible job she made more money than me when we first started out but then you know when we got together

Brandon Tatumwe made the decision that she will stay at home and take care of the babies and I'll go out and make it happen and that's the agreement that we made and and she walked away from her job she walked away from that's cool but nothing

Brandon Tatumin life lasts forever so let's say something happened to you what she have well of course we have life insurance I have a an incredible business she'll have she'll be fine if something happened to me but we don't live life

Brandon Tatumyou know like that we live life believing in God believing things are going to go well and we're going to pursue that to the very end so we'll see how it works out I would hate to be living life wondering if something going to happen instead of pursuing excellence

Brandon Tatumand then you know obviously most people they're not going to have a catastrophic thing happen in their life but that's that's what we have pursued and it's been working out really well also and

Brian Atlasjust on the whole boring thing thing um bring bringing it back to women being attracted to Bad Boys men who are exciting jerks whatever

Brian Atlasum I think the more appropriate term is women will reinforce that behavior because that's what they typically reward and women will even say it themselves I'm attracted to the to bad

Brian Atlasboys so if you say that and that's the type of guy you go for you ought not be surprised when the bad boy that you choose to pursue because women have

Brian Atlasagency women are have autonomy you should not be surprised when that guy turns out to be a cheater jerk whatever it may be if that's what you're

Brian Atlasattracted to because I think women are it's interesting though like to me it's not clear why women view men not only as

Brian Atlasuh companions as romantic Partners as providers but also there's this almost this added expectation that we are your entertainers to Sam donated

TTS Reader$99 Brandon how can you make hit pieces against the red pill but show up on a red pill podcast use the same red pill talking points hypocritical I have no

Brian Atlasidea what what he just said he says you made a hit piece against the red pill but show up on a red pill p is it a red pill podcast I don't know um I have no idea uh I thank you for the chat but yeah

Brandon Tatumthank youin I'm happily married and and I'm just giving my personal experience about what's going on I mean I don't have to be red pill green pill pink pill I'm I'm just a man giving an experience with with being in a relationship you know

Brandon Tatumobviously I I Haven been married my whole life so I've had experiences being single experience of being in college and now with all of that experience together it has helped me realize the importance of marriage and and and these

Brian Atlasare the things that I value and this is why I'm in the marriage and I'm not single yeah and by the way I mean we bring on people who have different viewpoints not you know I have my own views I bring on people that disagree

Brian Atlaswith me I don't know where me and Brandon necessarily agree or disagree on various topics but it's good to have conversation um so really quick just on the boring thing um I mean you mentioned player somebody mentioned players I

Brian Atlasthink I mean I think that's why women fall for players because they're not boring typically um but so I think boring can be a a good thing obviously you should be able to have a

Brian Atlasconversation with somebody but um I don't know I don't think we as men we're not your entertainers go watch Netflix that's my view um like I don't know I I don't

Brian Atlasexist to make others feel entertained at all times we're not obliged to be clowns when on a date and also bored people are boring okay um did somebody have something else otherwise I'd like to

Claudia (overflow)continue with I would like to say um the reason why we don't like boring is because most of us um grew up in stop for just a sec okay please just talk into the mic please

Claudia (overflow)please pleas you got it you got it I'll bring it closer okay most most of the reason why women want to find exciting or like adrenaline like roller coaster um relationships is becausein Sam

TTS Readerdonated $99 Brandon for example your hit pieces against fresh and fit who also use the same talking points you just said I'm not going to I have my opinions

Brandon Tatumabout fresh and fit I'm not going to get into that maybe we will later but um I didn't see I don't I don't see the video I it's not yeah just for me to clar it's not a necessarily A hitpiece you know it's that I'm a mature man I'm an adult

Brandon Tatumand some of the things that fresh and fish says I disagree with them because I think they come from a very immature place they come from very they sound like they come from a broken place it seems like it's always bashing women you know like a broken clock I feel like they write twice a day no matter you

Brandon Tatumknow on their podcast but over all men the way they talk about women the way they view men I just saw a clip of fresh and fit just recently and the guy gave this young man such horrible advice

Brandon Tatumabout a woman and that I guess the woman wasn't giving him what he deserved so he told him to go get a side chick and and and double dip these women like that now it sound cute to young immature men that but but in reality that's not the way

Brandon Tatumyou treat women and that's not the way you operate as a man that's that leads you to Devastation and and younger men like fresh and fit immature men like like they appear to be they don't understand that and so that's why I have

Brian Atlascriticism of some of the things they say go well we can certainly try to get into that a little bit later on in the show um you had a point go ahead yeah um it's

Claudia (overflow)yeah I'm almost done um so we Mo we tend to come most of us actually come had sometime it doesn't mean that you were traumatized or abused we had um

Claudia (overflow)emotional disregulation When We Were Young at some point school at home so we come we like famili amiliar things we did most of us did learn how to cope

Claudia (overflow)with these emotions so what we find attractive and fun is those exciting play play that's where the attachment Styles come from anxious

Claudia (overflow)attach anxious attachment the other ones the avoidant attachment so those are the exciting guys we like so when a nice guy comes around and is actually wanting to

Claudia (overflow)say hi let's go on a date and let's go on a date he's actually not being clingy he's actually treating you right and wanting to be with you and that's what we find clingy and the other one that

Claudia (overflow)are avoiding us those are the ones that we are actually chasing so we find the normal the toxic normalized in our lives so those the what Brian said is actually

Claudia (overflow)right boring guys are the the normal things and they aren't our entertainers we're supposed to make ourselves happy and exciting and they are just supposed to bring us you know whatever they bring us you know com conversation or whatever

Juliaso he makes a really good point right there so that was just my little two cents but I think chemistry is important and it's mutual attraction is important and recently I mean I was dating someone

Juliafor 2 months and they were the perfect person everyway but I there was not I couldn't the mut the mutual attractiveness just wasn't there and so it didn't work was he not physically attractive I think no I think he's a

Juliahandsome guy maybe I should say chemistry for us that it it wasn't Spark so the chemistry what is the chemistry what is the spark I don't know but what

JuliaI've learned is that you need it I wish it was to my chagrin that the spark didn't go off but it is just I think it's that thing that makes you just that draws you to that person initially and

Juliaso was he kind to you he was incred he is the most incredible guy everything was perfect and I like was like I was like what is wrong with myself yeah what

Juliais wrong with you I don't I I with you can ask all my friends I was like what is who broke it off we mutually decide I went to I I went to Montana for a month

Juliaand we we we didn't talk for a week and then we called and we were like yeah I think he felt less pressure during that week of Silence cuz he felt like he was

Juliaconstantly trying to make me impress me and then and I wasn't I just wasn't pressed I wasn't like thinking about him and and so that's how I knew so I mean

Brandon Tatumamazing guy but it just I don't know I unless I gaslit myself subconsciously and didn't know that I you you can I mean I think that everybody looks for that spark at the honeymoon stage and

Brandon Tatumall of that you know over time you you realize that it's not about that is that you know a lot of relationships you get in you have that sparking and it goes away with everybody I mean I thought

Brandon Tatumthree or four women were the one and it we didn't it end up it didn't end up materializing yeah oh that was just oh I was like shut up boy

TTS Readerkeep it didn't materialize and I say me and my wife oh actually one did come okay Brandon love your channel love you all your t-shirts currently wearing my

TTS Readerpronouns are USA but my favorite is the Donald please show the Donald t-shirt on the channel plus Brian when are you going out with Leila oh

Brandon Tatumgosh uhoh uhoh um the Donald T you have one yeah I actually wore it on the airplane but it's a Donald Trump shirt he a gangster he got tattoos and stuff everybody loves

Brian Atlasthat shirt uh yeah so as far as ilila goes um just to clue anybody in here at the table or people watching who have no

Brian Atlasidea Lila is a woman who's been pursuing me I guess but she does she does like she does porn oh yeah well

Brian Atlasthat's a no yeah no no no so I've I've told I've rejected her like a dozen times and she it's it's honestly kind of she's harassing me at this point is it because she does porn huh is it because she does porn that you don't want to

Brian Atlasyeah that's just done deal it's a red like deal breaker 100% she also has an IQ of 70 well let's not be mean here okay but she's she's a nice girl she's nice I just watched the podcast with her

Brian Atlason you she's a nice girl but uh yeah it's just I no it's not going to happen so uh yeah you got to have some discipline right okay so um sorry sorry that interrupt you if you want to no no

Brandon TatumI tell the person who did the Super Chat appreciate you my brother thank you for buying the merch um what I wanted to say is that me and my wife didn't have this crazy honeymoon stage we knew though we knew we we were like we just make sense

Brandon Tatumtogether and I was with 34 and she was 36 37 when we got together so we knew but it wasn't some miraculous sparkling in our eyes that we encountered it was

Brandon Tatummore of a mature uh we're in the same place in life we enjoy one another's company and we want to pursue life together it didn't it didn't have to be some crazy Shenanigans but I'm not saying that people don't deserve that

Brandon Tatumbut you just don't want to overlook an incredible man that can add value to your life um just because you don't feel that spark you know I'm not trying to be a counselor on here but at the same time you you might want to revisit it because

Brandon Tatumit's rare to find a man that you feel that way about and that you that's a really good man it's it's really good men are hard to find to be quite honest the same thing with women if you a really good incredible woman you know

Brian Atlasthat that chemistry be hard to fire yeah that's that's to almost some degree the the vibe there's there's a whole bunch of words for it the vibe the click the spark the butterflies the lightning all these terms for it right I almost wonder

Brian Atlasand at least it's the case for me I it seems to be it's more so something that women need is the click or the spark but why can't that either be something that

Brian Atlasdevelops because I think that the click or the spark is almost in the same category of as love at first sight mhm most of us would agree that we don't immediately fall in love with

Brian Atlassomebody so why why can't it also be the case that we just don't immediately fall into the click maybe that could be something that can take time to develop

Brian Atlasbut people because they've had it in the past where oh I have it I feel the click the spark instantly they feel like they need that in all their relationships

Brian Atlasgoing forward um my question is if the click or the chemistry or the vibe the spark whatever whatever term you want to use is you felt that with a guy before

Brian Atlashas every girl here felt that with a guy before yeah okay yes that obviously it's apparent to me I well we haven't gone through the relationship status on

Brian Atlaseveryone you're no longer with that guy it's clear to me that the click the spark the whatever it is like for you for example have you ever felt the click with a guy and it

Brian Atlasended really badly yes so so it's not clear to me if having the click and the chemistry precludes you from uh the like the relationship

Brandon Tatumcontinuing from having a good relationship so I don't know I don't well whatever yeah I think communication is key too cuz I mean maybe both of you guys are going through some maybe you got out of a a tumultuous relationship or maybe you got some stuff you need to take care of with you know whether it's

Brandon Tatumgoing to counseling or whatever the case may be and so does he that's a conversation that you guys probably should have is have a conversation with each other and then get back on the same page because me and my wife we were friends first and so we would talk about all our stuff first I never thought

Brandon Tatumabout dating or day in my life I would never move to California so it it seems as if we weren't going anywhere but we developed a friendship first and then we knew and it was practical uh women are

Brandon Tatumemotional not every woman but most women are emotional so that emotional thing is what draw you to somebody but you have to at some point U go beyond the emotions get to practical and then you

Juliacan you know I think you'll find a better fit with you and somebody I tried to be friends that was what I and what I wanted and then but now he's dating

Juliasomeone else so that so sad but I also think that that's part no cuz I was thinking about him I was like maybe I should just you know

Juliabut well first it was hurting him that I was not able to like reciprocate the same like passion and so I didn't want to hurt him so that was like so that's when I thought let's be friends and maybe that friendship will develop you

Juliaknow but he went and found another girl hey good for him I also think like that spark for women also that's a bond that forms when you're sexually active so like we weren't we're Christians we're not trying to do that and so that also

Juliaand sometimes I would think man if this was like an arranged marriage it would just have to happen and then the spark would come eventually and then it would be great yeah but but you already know

Brian Atlasthe spark is could be devastating I I I'm with you yeah wait I'm just a little confused you so you said you're Christian but the spark typically will come when you're sexually active with a

Brian Atlasperson you weren't sexually active with him but you said you've had the spark or the click with other men wait so you're not sexually active The Click is something that occurs when you're sexually

Juliaactive but how why were you expecting the click if you're not planning to be sexually active I'm just a little confused well for some sometimes it happens on like when you kiss a guy

Juliaright for the I'm looking around to see if anyone else agrees when you kiss a guy and it didn't happen when we kissed but that was really as far as we went I think the sparking comes just from

Eileenflirting yeah just talking to the person and you can you know how you click like it doesn't have to be like during sex or kissing or whatever it just you know like if you're flirting the eyes you

Brandon Tatumknow doing faces yeah I think just the sex just makes it a plus yeah and also you can romanticize yourself into that right I mean if you listen to love songs 24 hours a day days a week and you're

Brandon Tatumfantasizing in a hopeless romantic you know posture it's almost like when that you're looking for it and when that person meets some of those criteria goodlooking guy good job or whatever the

Brandon Tatumcase be now you've set yourself up to fall into that romanticized um you know relationship and and it's easy to happen but it's it's something that most people should avoid yeah and if I could just uh I want to ask the chat a question really quick

Brian Atlasrelated to The Click then we will continue with relationship status um so the click Vibe chemistry whatever you want to call it uh I personally think it's not a great thing to look for

Brian Atlasbecause I think it has absolutely no bearing on someone's quality as a long-term partner I do think it happens to be the case that this is something that women are looking for more than men

Brian Atlaswomen are chasing this elusive click or you know whatever it is fine um me personally I don't need it on a on a the first date when I'm talking to a girl I'm not

Brian Atlaslike also I find people have a very difficult time articulating specifically what chemistry or click or like what it is um so

Brian Atlaschat those in the chat when you're first meeting somebody one in the chat if you are looking for the click or the chemistry or two if that's really not a concern for you let's see what the chat

Brian Atlassays um while they're doing that let's continue with the uh relationship status here so I think it's your turn now I'm in a relationship and I've been for 5 years

Brian Atlasfive years okay all right uh how does he you do uh adult content right so how does he feel about oh sorry sorry hold on just rad

TTS Readerbro donated $99 man Brandon love your channel got many of your t-shirts currently wearing

TTS Readermy pronouns are USA but my favorite is the Donald please show the Donald on the show okay all right I wish I had it with me

Brandon Tatumbrother I'm sorry it's a cool shirt though I should have wor my I wanted to put Jesus out here but I guess Donald is more important than Jesus to some people I'm just joking so how does your boy from fil that you do adult content he's

Brian Atlascool with it he helps you with it yeah he actually he's the one that told me to do it so like if I wanted to and do you shoot content with other men no okay and you wait remind me it's just solo

Brian Atlascontent or you do you shoot content with your boyfriend or no no okay um so he encouraged you to start o doing o

Unknownmhm okay good times uh what about what about you looking at her looking at

Juliaher her face react I am single my last relationship ended in January

Brian Atlas2022 so it's been a minute last relationship ended January 2022 okay was the amazing guy he was the last I was in love with him he was the last

Brian Atlasguy I was in love with so it's been almost I know a year and N months two two years almost um not judging I just no no no I don't I'm just it's interest it's interesting what

Juliainteresting no that that you say you in love with him I wonder what happened what happened um why did he dump C

Juliaokay so he can reach your mind he can reach your mind he this is the thing maybe you can explain this he came on he we started he came on really strong and

Juliawas very I was his he was 30 when we started dating and I was his first ever girlfriend which made me feel like oh my gosh I'm the chosen one but that's a lie not until he puts a ring on your finger

JuliaAre You The Chosen One anyways um and so he like but he was going to he stayed in North Carolina for me he did all these things it was really

Juliagreat things were fine and then about like a year in I brought him to meet my family in Massachusetts and a week later he broke

Juliaup with me he told me he was moving to Montana and he didn't want to date me anymore did they do something specific he said so my parents are both Christian he's he was not a Christian which was that's your biggest that's right there

TTS Readerhe should it should have already I already knew that was going to go I know I know so you shouldn't be surprised I know we'll come back to that one donated $99 thank you Jacob appreciate it hey

TTS ReaderBrandon I really want to hear how the women respond if you asked your wife to make you a sandwich what would she do to the women on the panel do you find it demeaning for a man to ask you to make

Dianahim a sandwich we'll go around really quick on that uh do you would you find it demeaning no I don't I don't I think me neither like I would love to no I like cooking I'll do it really yeah I I

Juliawill I'll do it I like to cook I'll do that okay all right I think it depends on the way they ask okay I would love to care for my man I would make a

Brandon Tatumsandwich yeah yeah just a sandwich yeah my wife would make a sandwich and she would bring it to me in the bed if I wanted to so um and it's not some some type of um you know where I'm a mean

Brandon Tatumhusband and I'm controlling it's like my wife loves me and I take care of my wife I make sure she's good and that's just reciprocated so I once had a situation where uh this is a girl I've been dating

Brian Atlasfor about a year she moved in with me I was paying the rent paying everything and uh I asked her I was like sick or something or I I don't know and I asked

Brian Atlasher to go uh I I had some like a knee injury so it was hard for me to walk and so I asked I asked her to go make cut me some cucumbers not exactly make

Brian Atlasmake a sandwich and she like I think she kind of had an issue with it she had a she had an issue with you ask her I was like it doesn't matter

Brian Atlasno I wasn't rude I was just like I was like hey well she she was aware that I was injured I was like hey I got some cucumbers in the fridge you think you could like prep them for me even if you're not paying for rent or anything

Eileenlike you're my boyfriend I'll like help you you're you just had a surgery or anything like she had the feminist mind virus in her head and she like I could

Brian Atlastell she kind of wanted to do it but then like she's like the programming kind of like whoo she glitched out she was like feminism like

Brian Atlasam I supposed to do this yeah so uh feed an injured man it was kind of like it was literally like her brain went that restarted and I was like

Brian Atlasand that's when I knew so she didn't do it well she she ended up doing it but I think she did it begrudgingly it was like a begrudging I

Brian Atlascould tell by like the chops and the Cucumbers is super begrudging and and then I ended that okay so good I mean so okay anyways

Brian Atlasmoving on um where were we relation oh we were talking about your guy that you were in love with met your parents well boyfriend not just like I mean we were we were boyfriend girlfriend yeah my

Brandon Tatumwere you intimate yes was it love or was it lust okay he wasn't a Christian I know I know and so the red flag of not being a

JuliaChristian for a Christian woman yes you overlooked that because of intimacy the Holy Spirit was like girl no but but the intimacy you said after a year he met

Juliayour parents you wait that long I met his parents the week after after we became official and he met mine were you afraid for him to meet your parents cuz you knew he was a Christian right yeah

Juliaso here's the other thing so my older sister has severe autism so she lives at home with my family with my parents and my dad is very servant-hearted

Juliaand so he really cares for my mom and my older sister and like in a way that's very sacrificial and I think when my ex saw that he so what he said to me is he

Juliawas like wouldn't be able to care or provide for you the way that your dad provides for you and your mom so that was a good thing it was a yeah I know yeah it so it hurt but and that's the

Juliaproblem when you go after someone you can like there if without being thoughtful about it or intentional you can end up in a lot of

Brian Atlaspain yeah mhm wait so has your standard now changed when it comes to cuz you said the previous guy you were dating for like a month or two did not have sex

Juliawith him no no I Christian guy was Christian uh yes he was yeah so now I don't talk to guys like if they don't go to church they don't actively go to a church they're not actively pursuing the Lord I

Juliadon't even talk to them because in my mind I'm like why am I going to put myself through that pain again that's dumb that's ni that's a good that's a good start I know I honestly wish I had seen this podcast 3 years ago it might

Brian Atlashave helped cuz I'm learning about how men think and I'm like what anyways wait so but so do you have a new standard now though when it comes to sex what is your standard now because previously it was I

Juliadon't know what three dates or relationship commitment but now are you waiting are you waiting until marriage yes and that was what it was when I started dating my ex and then I like we

Juliahe just I don't want to say broke me down but I but I I ended up come on take accountability come on there was I mean the the accountability was getting in a relationship ship with a man that

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