She BANKRUPTS Men?! Women STRONGER?! Debate GOD Andrew Wilson! Ahegao Queen Nala! | Dating Talk #123

Date: 2023-12-01

Duration: 7h 06m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKyla (NotSoErudite)>

PPixie (DT130)>

SSalem (DT128)>

AAlexa (Whatever)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Eden(guest)

SPEAKER_05Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Salem(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Kyla(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nala(guest)

SPEAKER_13Alexa(guest)

SPEAKER_14Pixie(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as the 'Ahegao Queen', 25yo, lives in the valley, OnlyFans.

“hi I'm Nala the AO queen I am 25 years old I literally live in the valley right now in California and I'm on only fans”

QuoteNala reveals she had a kink for cheating but clarifies it was in unhealthy relationships, and that in a healthy relationship she would not cheat.

“I haven't helped anyone cheat recently or even in at least the last year”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans 'until she cleaned up her life.'

“I would not be participating with her or allow her in my life it's probably EAS that why is that awful”

QuoteBrian reveals Nala earns nearly $150,000/month from OnlyFans.

“I went from being a pastor's daughter to millionaire only fans model and make nearly $150,000 a month”

Key MomentKyla (NotSoErudite) invokes the Prodigal Son parable against Andrew's disowning position.

“the father allowed him to live out the consequences of that but the father didn't dis him”

QuoteNala confirms she could have retired a year before this episode.

“I could have retired a year ago”

QuoteSalem reveals she has had ~30 sugar daddies/pay pigs, with 7 sending over $100k each.

“not too many probably only like seven”

ControversyAndrew Wilson calls Pixie 'not worth debating' over her refusal to concede men are stronger than women.

“if you're so stupid you don't understand men are stronger than women you're not worth debating”

QuotePixie finally concedes men are stronger than women after Kyla presents a meta-analysis framework.

“based on the information that I've gained from this episode I'm going to say yes the men would be stronger than women”

QuoteCaitlyn admits to physically striking her ex-boyfriend multiple times during arguments at age ~16.

“I would just have a physical reaction”

QuoteNala says she collaborated with YouTube prankster Vitaly on an OnlyFans video and deeply regrets it.

“it was the worst thing I've ever done in my life I wish I could take it back”

QuoteEden reveals a body count of approximately 50-70, mostly condensed into a few months at age 19.

“it's definitely under 70 maybe 60 maybe 6 like it's up”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show; guests introduce themselves: Nala Ray, Kyla/NotSoErudite, Pixie, Caitlyn, Eden, Salem, Alexa, Andrew Wilson.

Relationship Status & Dating History

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, recent situationships. Includes Caitlyn's ex passing on Thanksgiving, Nala's 2-year single streak, Salem's 30+ on-off breakup situation, Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment, Kyla's 6-year marriage.

OnlyFans: Finances, Family Reactions, Career Plans

Discussion of OF earnings, family knowledge and reactions. Nala's $150k/month, ability to retire. Salem's sugar daddies (~30 total, >$700k combined). Nala's pastor father accepts her. Eden's Catholic Filipina mom. Kyla's Muslim family risk. Whether OF is a career or stepping stone.

Pastor's Daughter to OnlyFans (Nala's Story)

Nala's background as a pastor's daughter. Felt caged by church modesty standards. Left at 18. Pursued OnlyFans for financial freedom and self-expression. Invests and supports family.

Parenting, Disowning, and Enabling Adult Children

Andrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans until she 'cleaned up.' Debate on Christian parenting, the Prodigal Son parable, parental love vs. enabling. Nala, Eden, Kyla present counter-arguments.

Monogamy, Polyamory, and Relationship Structures

Eden discusses non-monogamy, having had two boyfriends simultaneously (cuck dynamic). Debate on whether monogamy is natural. Kyla's marriage separation. Salem's on-off relationship patterns.

Sugar Babies, Pay Pigs, and Wealth Extraction

Salem discusses ~30 sugar daddy/pay pig relationships, individual payments up to $30k, multiple men sending over $100k total. Explains pay pig dynamics. Plans to quit OF when moving to Dubai.

Physical Strength: Men vs. Women

Brian revisits debate from previous episode with Pixie. Pixie resists conceding men are physically stronger. Panel cites grip strength studies, deadlift records, high-school boys vs. female Olympians. Pixie eventually concedes based on meta-analysis framing by Kyla. Andrew Wilson frustrated by Pixie's position.

Dating App Culture and 50 Dates/50 Days

Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment: met first serious boyfriend on date 14, second on date 23. Brian's reaction: would leave a date if she had 7 more lined up. Panel debates whether simultaneous multi-dating is ethical.

Feminism, Oppression, Patriarchy

Survey of feminist positions on the panel. Debate on patriarchy, systemic oppression of women in the US, sexual harassment in STEM. Whether you can be racist against white people or sexist against men. Andrew Wilson challenges systemic racism definitions.

Racism, Sexism, and Definitions

Can you be racist against white people? Can you be sexist against men? Panel votes; debate on power+prejudice definition vs. simple prejudice. Andrew Wilson's logic about Asian vs. Black racism. Pixie's struggle to apply framework consistently.

Trans Women, Sexuality, and the 'Gay' Hypothetical

Extended debate: is it gay to perform oral on a trans woman? Megan Fox vs. Hulk Hogan hypothetical. What determines sexual orientation — genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, or attraction. Kyla and Andrew's prolonged categorical argument.

American Civil War and Slavery

Brief debate: Andrew Wilson says he would have sided with the Confederacy for sovereignty reasons (not slavery). Caitlyn and Kyla argue every seceding state's declaration mentioned slavery.

Plastic Surgery and Body Standards

Brian argues against plastic surgery; prefers natural bodies. Salem discusses insecurity from being in the OF industry (skinny body not featured). Kyla cites studies showing small amounts of plastic surgery can reduce psychiatric illness rates. Salem considering moving to Europe for natural beauty standards.

Body Count Round

End-of-show body count round. Nala: doesn't count. Eden: ~50-70. Alexa: can count on one hand. Andrew Wilson: more than one hand but wife is watching. Salem: declined to answer. Kyla/NotSoErudite: 1 (husband only). Pixie: not stated.

Transcript

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SPEAKER_00point so when it comes to plastic surgery I think a girl who's flat is I okay j00 the look on Andrew's face for the

SPEAKER_00entire time the discourse shifts to an extended discussion on breast augmentation is the greatest thing I've ever seen great show tonight yo James ston thank you man appreciate it if you guys are in New York York and you need a

Kikidivorce attorney oh he's the guy you're a divorce attorney that guy James I was like I'm so confused right now I'm so

Brian Atlasconfused yes that would be the SE Wilson and Associates look no further then Esquire James sexon and in fact Nala can you do a quick endorsement into this

Brian Atlascamera no as ending I meant like an endorsement can you just say into this James ston is the best divorce attorney

Brian Atlasin New York City he use that for ads and oh you don't have to wait James James I get out this he'll never use it

Brian Atlasbut it'll be might use it James I will grant you James oh God this he's a lawyer so might actually I will grant you a limited use license to use the

Brian Atlasnext 30 seconds of this podcast you uh commercial use that's fine perpetuity even thinket I will grant you perpetuity

Brian AtlasJames uh you can use this in advertising think that's what he wants to his ad course he does of course he come down here get a

Brian Atlasdivorce divorce your wife me J oh God does your husband want one of these one of those um okay so the point

Brian AtlasI was trying to make um so prefer a girl who's flat versus a girl who has faked HTS I prefer a girl with a little belly fat than a girl who has lipo belly I'd prefer a girl with a no ass than with a

Brian AtlasBBL I'd prefer a girl with small upper lip than a girl with lip filler I would prefer a girl not a

Nalaboy no I just thought you were going I just okay I would prefer a girl with a

Brian Atlaslarge labia than with a labia placy MH huh huh uh big big lab matter BLM that's my nonprofit

Brian Atlasorganization major both both can be the B the bigger the better hater and lover um but uh and like going around the table has anybody

Nalahere had any cosmetic surgery not a lot what have I had done Oh I thought you too I no my teeths are so real they're so swollen right now cuz I'm my period though are you considering

SPEAKER_00lip in a lot of girls don't consider lip injections cosmetic but I plastic surgery I would consider plastic Jameson donated

SPEAKER_00$200 are you trying to put me out of business no thanks but the firm of seon Wilson and Associates does have a nice ring to it again great show tonight

Brian Atlasthanks James James thank you again guys if you're a New York and you need a family law attorney he was a look no further so confed part of family he'll hat your wife as

Brian Atlasmuch as you do don't worry he's he's also uh he does maritime law too so I'm just saying if you marry any of these women you're going to need him also tree law he's also very much involved in tree

Brian Atlaslaw you guys did do you guys know that I didn't know this but trees are expensive as if you cut down a tree you're need like tens of thousands of

Brian Atlasdollars sometimes if you got some dispute with your neighbor and you like okay I'm going to their that's like six you might owe them six figures right James right I think don't cut down anyes do you do

Edentree lot have you done any tree lot I'm just curious any tree lot James I remember my boyfriend in high school hit a tree and he had to pay the city $20,000 oh yeah so here's also a Thing If you plant a tree always be consider

Alexalike if you have a house be very considerate of where the um Plumbing is because the roots will actually Dam it can be like six figures W also what it's covering cuz they can literally like wow find

NalaI thought you had for some reason I thought you had fake titties I had I've literally had no surgery done I have lip filler I got Botox in my forehead I had to stop that because I couldn't make like Expressions anymore wait Nick can you pull up Nala's Instagram I want to

Nalado you have any photos of your Lamborghini first off I'm just yeah if you scroll down there's a picture of it um with me um what oh inant M oh I'm so sorry if you scroll down you'll see me at a car wash in like a blue bikini wa

Brian Atlasmat are you MD can you come back or are you okay SC down I want to wrap up pretty soon I want okay um well I was just curious cuz like you've undergone a

Nalapretty big transformation right in terms of so like do you have any photos of you where you don't have red hair I'm just curious yeah that was like six years ago it's saw the photos

Kylaearlier this might be her on this might be her on I don't know I don't know if we can look I think bikinis are allowed on YouTube and twitch for sure doesn't care bikinis okay I think you'd be good unless there's like nips basically no

Brian Atlasthere's absolutely whatever okay Instagram would not allow that I would anyways um for some women maybe not me I just think you you can take any woman

Brian Atlaswho's had like breast implants BBL Li uh I guess well lips Lio lips I with certainty I can say I would

Brian Atlasprefer all those women had they not had any of those uh procedures so sure which is great any young women any

Brian Atlasyoung women who are considering getting any sort of plastic surgery I want you guys to know that there are plenty of men out there that will think you're beautiful and love you and find you sexy

Brian Atlasand attractive without the need to undergo dangerous expensive unnecessary cosmetic surgery can I tell you a crazy stat that's been replicated what's up plastic surgery so small amounts like

Kylaone to two plastic surgeries are one of the most preventative things you can do for psychiatric illness that's crazy like in the a preventive effect for like 10 to 30 years more than like any

Nalatherapy medication yeah it's crazy in the military the for women to get like their boobs done because it's like for their mental health it's like a cognitive distance thing if you look in the mirror every day and you're like

Kylaslightly unhappy what yeah it's actually crazy we never expected it but like really small amounts of plastic surgery can be very protective against psychiatric illness because you basically if there's a part of your body that you look at and you just always

Kylahate it a little bit Yeah if you just make that not look that way you'll be significantly there's a there's I'm not saying you should get costic surgery you should get therapy instead but obviously

Brian Atlasbut what we need to do is take back the culture and embolden women to see their innate Beauty I think Society should stop

Salempraising women he until he said women fist here feminist liberal Brian tonight yeah it's Progressive Brian I guess so I guess so I'm a big Advocate women need to just

Salemtravel to other countries cuz you go to Europe those very little makeup is desirable no classic surgy just go somewhere else leave here like your my mental health is like significantly like I don't want to touch

Salemmy body I don't want to do anything I don't even want to be like in the industry anymore CU it's just like it's so much more like natural yeah everyone there is just happier health you know even if you're not doing

Brian Atlasanything it's just like they're so they're such a tightnit community you know what I mean I'll just I'll say this I think that we should encourage women to develop a

Brian Atlasconstitution where not like a leral like the American Constitution we need to develop a constitution of character that so that

Brian Atlasthey don't feel compelled to go and get plastic surgery and that they even take some sort of pride in being like I don't need to get I take so much pride in that

Nalalike again she says like indust lip filler little lip fill yeah okay but like that dissolves that goes away that's not permanent and lip filler not the most invasive absolutely not it takes like less than five minutes but

NalaNala I think you would be just as attractive without the lip filler oh I do too but for me it was like I really wanted it like I was like I love my lips I love my lip shape don't change the shape of my lips just enlarge them a

Nalalittle bit which you can also do with some lip glosses like they plump your lips like you know what I mean so for me that was like this is something super minor and if I don't like it down the line it will go away so that made me

Nalareally happy but again your thing is uh anime right yeah yeah so but don't they usually have small mouths I don't I mean I think so most of the time but for me I'm not like trying to look like an

Nalaanime this is just me and I'm into anime and I cosplay but that's about it I'm not like claiming to be an anime character or anything no I phrases and

Salemlike that the cross I that's all like Japanese anime stuff has anyone ever told you like that you're trying to like appropriate like their like Japanese

NalaJapanese culture cultural in fact I've gotten like comp well I have a couple Japanese friends who speak fluent in Japanese and stuff and they're like so

Nalahappy for me that I'm engaging it this way because they're like you're respecting it you're trying to learn about it you're not just watching anime and claiming to be something which is that's fine they don't care anyway

Brian Atlasthey're all they do I think you'd be surprised how much they actually care Let's uh let me just get through some chats and we are going to wrap here very soon I think within five minutes actually really quick question maybe for

Brian Atlasthe feminists here what is a stronger feminist position saying that women shouldn't get cosmetic surgery or saying women should have the freedom because

KylaI've heard both from feminists that it's like some would argue ones like dorin Andrea dorin would be like plastic surgery shaving she's like really intense but like probably like a Dei for example would be super pro women should

Pixiehave the freedom to do whatever the they want I think um personally I think women should have the freedom however I think it's important to keep in mind that a lot of the things that we consider to be like a free right to do there's still like social influences

Alexathat go beyond that got it okay I was going to say that's a big thing is like if you're doing it because it's something that you want to do and you're not wanting to appease the other opposite sex or get attention from them or be someone else or like exactly that

Kylayou should have the right to choose that for yourself I feel like we always do things to like appease to the other group we want to be attracted to like we wear makeup not like we when girls like I wear makeup I'll wear makeup at when I don't

Kylago out do you think your beauty standard is informed because of like your personal feelings or do you think your beauty standard isn't formed by like what both like men and women say is attractive in

Brian Atlaswomen well honestly is the way I was raised my mom wears makeup in house and also I'm sorry guys I do have to move on I do have to move on if you guys want you can get a final chat in we are going to go go through the chats and then

Brian Atlaswe're going to wrap the show uh Jeremy human wait did I already read this I already read this he's submitted a lot do you want me to milk him some more for you uh maybe I should rephrase this so the girl with the black hair can

Brian Atlasunderstand think in head not say as do he's like speaking bad think not make bad person brain make many think not all real think and do different that's even

Brian Atlasmore confusing thinking gay thought isn't bad being gay not bad all right there you have it we have uh loose energy just catching up

Brian AtlasI'm a dude he's a dude she's a dude we're all dudes of course you are uh uh yep that if you s the D's L for the

Brian Atlaswhole uh uh colorful lady boy panel Abdul you know what to do get the Rocks Abdul yeah get the Rocks get the Rocks

Brian Atlaswe have insert name here I'm lost I like the red one can we get a little go for Lord have mercy we must stay focused Brothers we must stay F it's still

NalaNovember no not November the last day my guy actually I don't even think it is isn't it like midnight no it's December 1st you we made it we made it no

Brian Atlasno all right hold on I got Yo I love you aidite huge fan you actually brought me here but your arguments argument is incoherent and your conclusions about men tonight are asinine if the genitals weren't part of the question it would be

Kylacloser to valid I'm about 90% sure that that person doesn't love me isn't a fan maybe a Jeremy ult um so again just because you keep saying the AR argument is incoherent it doesn't make that so

Brian Atlasyou have to supply evidence as to why it's incoherent engaging in terrible argumentation good job all right we have the real Mr meatball dude I haven't seen you in a while man welcome back thank you man really appreciate your support I

Brian Atlasknow it sounds really good right now but only trashy folks like these get plastic surgery done plastic surgery who has plastic surgery heree Botox than like most

Nalapeople are getting men have botox like so many men I just got my lashes I also uh if your boyfriend wants you to like is pushing you to get plastic surgery

Brian Atlasred flag dump him period red flag dump him red flag tell him to get plastic surgery no literally tell him to get aomy tell him to get a dick enlargement please and if your boyfriend is shaming

Brian Atlasyou for your large labia that's that's up too call Brian call Brian yeah DM are shame for I'll talk you out of the LA ofy okay um I'm just double checking oh

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Brian Atlasand uh I think we're all caught up on every single thing uh y everything everything hold up let me just double check make sure I'm not missing anybody

Brian Atlasuh oh last thing and do do you guys think men only want one thing no no no oh okay all right cool all right good

Edenjob um yes to be loved okay I think they want food too I think men want unconditional love because they feel like only women experience it

Brian Atlasoh they get from their mom that's true nurturing yeah yeah yeah um I'm trying to think if there's

Brian Atlasanything else if there's anything that video what was the video oh no we don't sound like an hour long out there's an

Brian Atlashour long video yeah okay guys so last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight guys you could have been anywhere in the world but you are here

Brian Atlaswith me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who so generously super chats donates and supports the show uh thank you guys very much for your uh patronage you know the uh a lot of our videos end up getting uh demonetized or age

Brian Atlasrestricted because we're talking about some of these uh you know a little more risque topics and Andrew's uh five minutes into the show is dropping uh

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Brian Atlasyou guys really appre really appreciate it um by the way I didn't mean I wasn't trying to like wor okay um thank you to the wonderful panel uh thank you guys so much uh this was I think one of our

Brian Atlasuh definitely a fun fun show you guys were great so thank you um check out uh I know you have a YouTube channel uh sub

Brian Atlasto my only fans I have a twitch twitch Andrew's uh Andrew Wilson's The Crucible the link for everybody's Instagrams just for the clip yeah can you throw pixie

Kylaout no but physically off the railing too wait why you yeah you got to do it no you to kick a man off that would make you the true liberal feminist that you no that would make him the alpha pad cuz

Nalahe's the only man left man left with throw someone out you can throw me out um I don't want to do like a stage get out of here I don't want to do a stage you been so bad

Brian Atlasand um no I don't want I don't want to do it but uh um I mean unless somebody says some outlandish right now so it's

Brian Atlasnot stage but um I got nothing uh so check out Andrew wion's Channel

Brian Atlasum I can't it's okay it's okay um any women who want to be on the show DM at whatever on Instagram we will be live again Sunday at 5:00 P p.m. Pacific uh thank you guys for tuning in to our

Brian AtlasThursday show we normally don't do Thursday shows but did one today so uh I'm trying to think of is there any I feel like we're forgetting something is there anything we're forgetting Michael

Brian AtlasNS ran away from debating no no but tell you what uh we are going to reschedule that and uh KY I'd love to have you i'

Brian Atlasif any of you would like to be on for that we'll try to uh have that arranged if you guys would like to come back so uh you I think all of you with Andrew would or Andrew sorry Michael would be

Brian Atlasfantastic show fantastic show okay guys 07s in the chat I feel like I'm really forgetting oh body count okay what's everybody wait last minute just

Nalago deep quick what's your body no idea f is it I never like counted people aren't like objects to

Brian Atlasme no four I don't know you don't know because it's CU it's high do you want us a range H like a

Edenwhat do you like if you gave us a range what do you think probably like above 40 above probably above 45 45 yeah 50 Maybe

Edenyeah it's probably about 50 probably more than 505 it's definitely under 70 maybe 60 under maybe 6 maybe 6 like it's up how many of those were condensed into like the same like four

Andrew Wilsonmonths of my life when I was 19 oh so yeah 45 to 70 really I think they should actually reset every year it's a it's a range I think if it reset every year

Edenthen it' be lower and wait so that you said it's uh let's say it's 50 to 60 right you said it was condensed into what range like most of them were like in the same like 3 months cuz I was I grew up really like my mom was really Catholic from the Philippines so I

Edencouldn't like go out at all in high school and so when I like got out the house I just started doing everything ever I did I think I did most drugs during those same few months I did a lot of things during those few

Brian Atlasmonths so if anything those bodies should be forgiven they are they are thank you so much God forgives wait hold on I had

Brian Atlasanother out of question God does forgive uh was there in a 24-hour period was there what was I don't want to answer this honestly but I think

Edenit'll be funny 24-hour period most yolow it probably like three four oh wow was it like all at once or I had okay there was one time it was a train

Unknownof three and then there was one time it was like three separate wow but like the 24 is cuz like yeah I hope it was good you took some math you were up all night the reason it was three was cuz it

Edenwasn't good like because it made me mad that like it wasn't good the first one and so I had to go again and the second one was still bad and then the third time was valid so honestly I'm glad I did three oh so you were chasing your nut yeah okay like these the exactly

Edenyour nut the men have the guaranteed nut why can't I get my nut I've just learned to get more vocal like you tell them what SE it's for them to have yeah it's so much more fun too when you get more vocal like in the middle

Brian Atlashey I'm dry right now and is this fun for you I think we should stop they'd be like the people are telling me that I missed a Super Chat did I read the one

Brian Atlasfrom Spyro flops Q for Andrew that name but it's not showing up I'm sorry Spyro I'm not able to actually pull it up but I can go ahead and read it um I'm wondering Nick is no I don't think you're going to be able to find it C for

Brian AtlasAndrew which of the women on the panel would need the services of sexon Wilson and Associates if each of them got married or wait I did read this one according to Andrew all of us wait also everyone close your eyes let NSE talk

Brian Atlasfor 5 seconds ones in the chat if you hear feminine Destiny oh wait did I I hey Spyro I'm very sorry it's not showing up in

Brian Atlasour uh streamyard so it's conspiracy against you Spyro that's what's going on indeed indeed okay are someone hates you personally okay all right guys uh 07s in

Brian Atlasthe chat I still feel like what are we forgetting are we oh we didn't sorry sorry we you keep forgetting uh do you know do you want to give range

Andrew Wilsonor no no okay Alexa I can count on one hand okay all right good times good talk Andrew what's your body count uh I mean

EdenI don't I don't know I've never even thought about it how high one did Andrew Wilson have a ho damn I know can you count it on one hand he has no virtue W

Edenwho or do you need two before or you need your hands you don't want the smoke you don't

Nalahave one or two or responding to any of this one two hand so you aerate for me to talk about these I think had aerate do you have a degenerate face it's cuz

Andrew Wilsonhis wife's watching James then why can you count on one hand that's degenerate if you can't count on one hand well it wasn't like 145 or whatever you said 140 is it 5 doesn't God forgive I

Brian Atlassaid most of them were like when I was 19 thank God God forgives he had a whole God forgave him he converted we're good okay yeah good times good times okay all right guys 07s in the chat we'll see you

Brian Atlasuh Sunday 5:00 p.m. Pacific good night guys see you

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