She BANKRUPTS Men?! Women STRONGER?! Debate GOD Andrew Wilson! Ahegao Queen Nala! | Dating Talk #123

Date: 2023-12-01

Duration: 7h 06m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKyla (NotSoErudite)>

PPixie (DT130)>

SSalem (DT128)>

AAlexa (Whatever)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Eden(guest)

SPEAKER_05Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Salem(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Kyla(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nala(guest)

SPEAKER_13Alexa(guest)

SPEAKER_14Pixie(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as the 'Ahegao Queen', 25yo, lives in the valley, OnlyFans.

“hi I'm Nala the AO queen I am 25 years old I literally live in the valley right now in California and I'm on only fans”

QuoteNala reveals she had a kink for cheating but clarifies it was in unhealthy relationships, and that in a healthy relationship she would not cheat.

“I haven't helped anyone cheat recently or even in at least the last year”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans 'until she cleaned up her life.'

“I would not be participating with her or allow her in my life it's probably EAS that why is that awful”

QuoteBrian reveals Nala earns nearly $150,000/month from OnlyFans.

“I went from being a pastor's daughter to millionaire only fans model and make nearly $150,000 a month”

Key MomentKyla (NotSoErudite) invokes the Prodigal Son parable against Andrew's disowning position.

“the father allowed him to live out the consequences of that but the father didn't dis him”

QuoteNala confirms she could have retired a year before this episode.

“I could have retired a year ago”

QuoteSalem reveals she has had ~30 sugar daddies/pay pigs, with 7 sending over $100k each.

“not too many probably only like seven”

ControversyAndrew Wilson calls Pixie 'not worth debating' over her refusal to concede men are stronger than women.

“if you're so stupid you don't understand men are stronger than women you're not worth debating”

QuotePixie finally concedes men are stronger than women after Kyla presents a meta-analysis framework.

“based on the information that I've gained from this episode I'm going to say yes the men would be stronger than women”

QuoteCaitlyn admits to physically striking her ex-boyfriend multiple times during arguments at age ~16.

“I would just have a physical reaction”

QuoteNala says she collaborated with YouTube prankster Vitaly on an OnlyFans video and deeply regrets it.

“it was the worst thing I've ever done in my life I wish I could take it back”

QuoteEden reveals a body count of approximately 50-70, mostly condensed into a few months at age 19.

“it's definitely under 70 maybe 60 maybe 6 like it's up”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show; guests introduce themselves: Nala Ray, Kyla/NotSoErudite, Pixie, Caitlyn, Eden, Salem, Alexa, Andrew Wilson.

Relationship Status & Dating History

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, recent situationships. Includes Caitlyn's ex passing on Thanksgiving, Nala's 2-year single streak, Salem's 30+ on-off breakup situation, Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment, Kyla's 6-year marriage.

OnlyFans: Finances, Family Reactions, Career Plans

Discussion of OF earnings, family knowledge and reactions. Nala's $150k/month, ability to retire. Salem's sugar daddies (~30 total, >$700k combined). Nala's pastor father accepts her. Eden's Catholic Filipina mom. Kyla's Muslim family risk. Whether OF is a career or stepping stone.

Pastor's Daughter to OnlyFans (Nala's Story)

Nala's background as a pastor's daughter. Felt caged by church modesty standards. Left at 18. Pursued OnlyFans for financial freedom and self-expression. Invests and supports family.

Parenting, Disowning, and Enabling Adult Children

Andrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans until she 'cleaned up.' Debate on Christian parenting, the Prodigal Son parable, parental love vs. enabling. Nala, Eden, Kyla present counter-arguments.

Monogamy, Polyamory, and Relationship Structures

Eden discusses non-monogamy, having had two boyfriends simultaneously (cuck dynamic). Debate on whether monogamy is natural. Kyla's marriage separation. Salem's on-off relationship patterns.

Sugar Babies, Pay Pigs, and Wealth Extraction

Salem discusses ~30 sugar daddy/pay pig relationships, individual payments up to $30k, multiple men sending over $100k total. Explains pay pig dynamics. Plans to quit OF when moving to Dubai.

Physical Strength: Men vs. Women

Brian revisits debate from previous episode with Pixie. Pixie resists conceding men are physically stronger. Panel cites grip strength studies, deadlift records, high-school boys vs. female Olympians. Pixie eventually concedes based on meta-analysis framing by Kyla. Andrew Wilson frustrated by Pixie's position.

Dating App Culture and 50 Dates/50 Days

Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment: met first serious boyfriend on date 14, second on date 23. Brian's reaction: would leave a date if she had 7 more lined up. Panel debates whether simultaneous multi-dating is ethical.

Feminism, Oppression, Patriarchy

Survey of feminist positions on the panel. Debate on patriarchy, systemic oppression of women in the US, sexual harassment in STEM. Whether you can be racist against white people or sexist against men. Andrew Wilson challenges systemic racism definitions.

Racism, Sexism, and Definitions

Can you be racist against white people? Can you be sexist against men? Panel votes; debate on power+prejudice definition vs. simple prejudice. Andrew Wilson's logic about Asian vs. Black racism. Pixie's struggle to apply framework consistently.

Trans Women, Sexuality, and the 'Gay' Hypothetical

Extended debate: is it gay to perform oral on a trans woman? Megan Fox vs. Hulk Hogan hypothetical. What determines sexual orientation — genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, or attraction. Kyla and Andrew's prolonged categorical argument.

American Civil War and Slavery

Brief debate: Andrew Wilson says he would have sided with the Confederacy for sovereignty reasons (not slavery). Caitlyn and Kyla argue every seceding state's declaration mentioned slavery.

Plastic Surgery and Body Standards

Brian argues against plastic surgery; prefers natural bodies. Salem discusses insecurity from being in the OF industry (skinny body not featured). Kyla cites studies showing small amounts of plastic surgery can reduce psychiatric illness rates. Salem considering moving to Europe for natural beauty standards.

Body Count Round

End-of-show body count round. Nala: doesn't count. Eden: ~50-70. Alexa: can count on one hand. Andrew Wilson: more than one hand but wife is watching. Salem: declined to answer. Kyla/NotSoErudite: 1 (husband only). Pixie: not stated.

Transcript

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Caitlynsaid they know that you dance yeah so they both know that I dance my mom knows that I do only dance my biological dad does not know either that as far as iware and is your mom is she supportive

Caitlynyes she's all about me my money about she's she's all about you making your money uh what about your dad biological dad or stepdad both um well my stepdad also doesn't really care as long as I'm safe that's like the main thing thing

Caitlynfor him and same thing for my mom but you know he's also wants me to be self-sufficient and stuff like that so that's like really their main concern is my self self-sufficiency couldn't you be self-sufficient though without um it's a

Caitlynlot more difficult so I did like you know as a young person the only options that I have you know for a job is entry level stuff and then also like fast food work and stuff like that I could work my way you know as a manager in a fast food

Nalarestaurant but that's really the highest up position that I could get and then Nala uh I mean I think you maybe talked a bit so my dad both all my my entire family knows um my mom and I don't speak

Nalaanymore she's very uh religious conservative we've never had a good relationship throughout my entire life it didn't even matter when I was a pastor kid um my dad found out in

Nalaeverything very just supportive of me he is still a Christian he loves me me and my dad have had a really good relationship throughout the years I financially support my family because

Nalathey're retired now and have like kids kids who have kids and like my nieces and nephew need like things sometimes so I love to give money to my family because you know I have it and they're still part of my family like I care

Nalaabout them so even if I didn't speak to them I wouldn't care like I made the decisions I made and I'm being very smart about it and obviously I know that only fans is

Nalanot the end result I went to college to be a dental hygienist and I worked in an orthopedic office scheduling surgeries and stuff I had big girl jobs with big girl benefits that didn't pay pay the bills so I'm like listen I have huge

NalaPursuits like snowboarding snowboarding is expensive I want to be tutored in Japanese that's expensive like I wanted things that I couldn't achieve with a normal job and like

Nalasomething that men think that I should be doing you know so me pursuing this only fans career gave me so much freedom to expand as a human being and I was

Nalalike wow like this is what I want to do and again this won't last forever just just get a curiosity um you couldn't have gone snowboarding and learned Japanese without doing only fans I'm

Nalawhat I was telling you is that it costs money that I didn't have doing things like being a surgery scheduler working like I like I said I went to college like I got my little degree and everything and that got me nowhere

Nalaespecially with this economy right now it's so bad I could not live in California doing what I did absolutely not it's so bad and then I was like I have to get a second job as a female doesn't have a boyfriend to you know I

Nalawasn't being supported by anyone so I was like okay you know what I think I'm really good at a present having a presence online and I pursued so much I don't just do only fans and only fans is

Nalareally kind like my content for only fans is slowed down so that I could pursue bigger things that led me down different Financial routes so again this was a starter not an Ender can I ask one

Alexaquestion about to all the girls that do only fans because Lord knows y'all make a lot of money and I'm I'm going be honest sometimes I make jokes at work and I'm like I work obscene amount of hours to not make

Alexaanywhere near as much money but but there is a part of me that's also wondering like you like you said you can't do this forever no and when you go back into let's say civilian life you're going to look at everything and be like

NalaI'm not going to accept any of this because you're going to make a eighth of what you made so it's not about that what I'm trying to do is answer you're going to make money no no but the point

Kikiof making point of making that much Mone I'm not going back to normal J that's the whole point so you're investing buy you're investing buying no no no no hold on hold

Brian Atlason I think I mean perhaps you don't have any history on Nala Nala let me ask you a question um if you wanted to retire today could you million per I could have retired a year ago so it's I mean I I

Brian Atlasyou you're not familiar with Nala but I think asking her that spe granted there are women who do only fans who they will face that challenge but I think Nala here is an exceptional Le excep for well it's it's just so much more about

Nalagrowing yourself as a person and not just growing and making content and taking pictures of yourself that doesn't help you do anything bigger and then when you're making this much money as such a young person you're like wow this

Nalais the time to be an adult you need to set up for your future self like you need to think of like the future Nala and be like you know what she'd want to be comfortable too and she would want to continue sending her parents money I

Nalaknow that for a fact cuz I don't feel like I'm changing anytime soon you know so that was the biggest purpose of this and I felt so steady in my decision making through this and financial just

Nalalike maneuvering I'm so thankful that I did what I did I have a quick just a quick question if your parents if you went to your parents and you asked them you said you know I have a choice I can

Andrew Wilsoneither quit doing all of this tomorrow right and go get a job for like a tenth of this or I can continue to do this and send you money which one do you think they would ask my mom would say

Nalaabsolutely quit my dad he'd be like oh my God no why would you ever quit your dad would say that my dad would say that I send money to my dad so that he can be comfortable with like

Nalatheir a pastor no he's not a pastor anymore they stopped being a pastor when I was like 18 okay but he was and he retained his faith right he did he did I'm his daughter though you know I'm not just some stranger he's like you know

Nalawhat if I want her in do that make it worse like wouldn't that make it worse don't you have to accept your kids for who they are yeah what and Guys One mic at a time one m at a time I'll let you come inang I'll answer

NalaI'll answer the question had a kid and they were doing only fans what you just disown them because they're doing they made a bad decision until they clean their life up yeah you're bad parent wow

Brian Atlasthat's my 100% what about you're a bad kid guys guys guys please one person speaking at a time go ahead think your

Pixiego ahead you can think your kid is bad and disagree with their life choices sure but as a parent you're supposed to be like a guiding figure and a loving figure and part of that is not abandoning them in their time of need and if you want if you want to talk about Christianity if you want to talk

Andrew Wilsonabout Christianity if you want to talk about like God and Jesus and the countless stories there are in the Bible of like still I got to respond to this I got to respond to this okay listen first of all let's dive into this just a

Andrew Wilsonlittle bit okay my daughter calls me up and she's like hey Dad you know I'm still going to be doing only fans but I'm kind of thinking about not doing it right I would say yes absolutely don't do it in her situation she's like no he

Andrew Wilsonwould totally be cool with it you're saying you would your child you're saying you would say gone child what was the context the context is tell what context was decision we asked the

Andrew Wilsonthe question was straightforwardly asked um if you found out your daughter had only fans what would you do until she cleaned up I would not be participating with her or allow her in my life it's

Nalaprobably EAS that why is that awful because you're not supporting your child yeah I'm not supporting horrible decisions that they're making Mak face consequences a decision doesn't make them as a whole though yeah the thing is

Andrew Wilsonyou all know better you literally told me you know for sure what you're doing is bad and you're just going to do it anyway and then you're like Dad support it's crazy who said it's bad though that's crazy even what Nala said she

Salemsaid her dad doesn't support she might not support what she does only fans whatever but he's like you know what you're my daughter and if that's what you want to do with your life that

Salemdoesn't mean I'm I I'm saying yeah go do that but I you and I'm still going to be in your life are you sure that's not just cope cuz the same thing could happen to you well that's that's not true at all though yeah isn't it though isn't it really cope you're just

Andrew Wilsonupset because your parents might actually do this to you they might make you feel the consequences of this let and then you're just an inde without parents don't so if you don't care if they dis you why would you say you're a bad parent of I care I'm calling you

Pixieabout out of 10 do you think your daughter do you think your daughter would care if you abandoned her simp not abandoning abandoning an ad an adult yes you can there is no age that you canot

Andrew Wilsonabandon your child stuck with your kids when they're 60 and making bad choices don't have to support them know you don't have to say you don't have to say decision they do is good you don't have to support every decision

Andrew Wilsonthey do but that is very distinct than disowning your own child and I hope we can all agree you know what a limit is stop being so emotional and be logical for five go ahead um for me so my mom she's

SPEAKER_00extremely Catholic she GRE in the Philippines like the only place where divorce is illegal and her when I she first found out obviously there was a stagnation in relationship donated Alexa the only same one as a

SPEAKER_00tech p do you think big Tech sensors bricken because he redirects real debates to get into six way of 304 Fest fights then

Brian Atlascomplains is part of it he disagrees fights wait what what do you think big Tech censors Brian because he redirects real debates to get into 6way o 304 he's

Kylacriticizing you for stopping the debates um to like be like anyways back to Pastor's daughter that's what he's saying we just needed a break that was it we're coming back to it though well the you know the part two is coming it was going on a while like I said it's

Brian Atlaswe'll do a little intermission and we we'll come back to talk about one topic time permitted of course but and obviously like if it was just a debate with you and Andrew that'd be fine but I

Nalado want to try to re other people into the like what if what if you committed adultery against your wife and then your kid found out about that and disowned you because should my wife abandon me should my wife abandon me when I commit adultery and do something she doesn't

Andrew Wilsonlike talking about the daughter no no answer my question hang on this is a perfect my question my wife so is the question with the question yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll I'll answer so I'll answer I'll answer then you answer so the answer is yes I would sorry I did

Edensay that she could go so I'm sorry but go ahead good um so I was saying is I feel like so me and my mom we were distant you know out of point when she found out but then I feel like as a mother like she just kind of stands one from her for a Catholic perspective it's

Edennot mine it's that um everyone has their own sins she has no place to judge me cuz she has her own things and then the other thing is she noticed like when we're talking about um bad life choices and your kid coming back when their lives cleaned up my mom realized I was

Edenalways just on a better path when I had her love in my life like when if when I was distant from her then I was going further into things that she didn't want to see me in because just having your parents love is just kind of motivating

Edenhaving your parents acceptance any goal you have of your kid just doing better for themselves will be easier when they know that their parent loves them even if you know I don't I don't support this I don't want to hear about this but I still love you maybe you barely talk to them every day but okay for me I'm

Edendiabetic do you think my my parents would never yeah they would never stop giving me insulin I could have done anything in the world they would always make sure I have my insulin yeah like certain things you see I'm saying I'm not I know that's a different extreme

SPEAKER_00but it's kind of like who it's like Doc Vin donated $200 if my daughter did of that means I failed her as a father she would do have

SPEAKER_00only if I am dead or in jail your fathers are morally weak men they are morally weak men I guess could I ask you who do you think is the example well I mean you can say you but he's right look the chatter is right can I ask you

Andrew Wilsona question hang on let me finish my point I'm I'm going to tell you right you do have to be a morally weak man if they know like in your case maybe not because your dad doesn't know okay but a

Andrew Wilsonlot of people that I've talked to here their dads do know and they're just like but we're adult dad like it ad able to make our own decision my dad doesn't like it finished but point I'm almost done okay yeah I think that that's a

Andrew Wilsonmoral weakness to say I will enable you I will enable you to do this threshold breaking thing especially from a Christian perspect it's insane I don't I don't know why anybody would do it I would say you know why because real Christians love everyone so then all so

Nalathen why not just make everything permissible I love the fact that you're like I'll disown my daughter that's not so everything's permissible I didn't think that there's a difference between dele no no okay but all social behaviors

Kylaall sexual behaviors all everything Christians must permit that who's the example in Christianity answer the question Chris I feel like ask him that who in Christi given answer I'm asking

Andrew Wilsonyou the question is it per is all forms of social sexual behavior something which are supposed to be permissible to Christians I don't think it should be permissible I think that you should love no matter what so then if it's not per if it's not permissible then I'm not

Andrew Wilsongiving permission which means I'm not endorsing it which means I'm not allowing it which means I'm totally against it if your kid is an adult why do you have to allow them to do something what do you I'm not allowing the question I have for you

Kylawhat are you talking about who in Christianity is the example for parenting who is it you mean in which context which Saints are you talking about what talking about there's Saints which you can look to as examples in

SPEAKER_00parenting who do you look to as the example for parenting as the example inside of Christianity of course look at Jesus suck honestly Nala has a special

SPEAKER_00brand of daddy isues every girl has a craving for M attention if she doesn't get it from her dad she will get by being a thought thought so here I need to look at Jesus Christ to answer but

Nalalike I I do want to I have so many notes I have to get through so go ahead H all it sounded like you wanted to say something so so I feel like a lot of people think that because what I do I have daddy issues or mommy issues or

Nalawhatever the it is but it's honestly it's a self-made choice I didn't go to my dad and be like you know should I do this and he just gave me like all this advice to do it you know I came to them told them because I wanted

Nalato be honest with my parents they have that reason like they have that decision to make with their kid if they do something like this you know what I mean like whether they want to be in your life or not I think it's bad parenting if you don't want to be in your kid's life no matter

Nalawhat they do I'm not saying if they like delete someone that's like that's a great I don't know I feel like the line is just too broad here how so let me ask you this can you make the judgment and the value added judgment on what's bad

Andrew Wilsonparenting I have children do you have any no okay and then on top of it from your parents perspective you turned out to go off and do only fans and like show

Andrew Wilsonyour butthole online for money how's that great parenting how could you come to me and say what a great parent should do is you're the perfect example that nobody should listen to for

KylaGreat paren Is Christ a terrible parent because like so many of his sons and daughters commit sin you said Jesus is your example for parenting who did Jesus D with this is hilar he of course he

Andrew Wilsondied for everybody oh Dy I'm sorry go ahead who did he dine with you in in which context like his Apostles in the gospels he would dine with everybody dine with Sinners he would dine with Saints be

Kylacalled Godless fools and rejected outright okay just stop just get to your point you should know this well it's fine if you don't know the people he called Godless fools was Pharisees the

Kylaleaders of the religion whereas in the cases of women who were adulterers Tax Collectors the ones he told to sin no more he told them to sin no more but still dined with them and he told them to sin no more he should go

Kyladising is not the same thing as saying dising until a behavior is modified that's behavior modification no it's not how do you there's a million ways to not hold on hold on hold on fin there's a

Kylamillion ways to condone an action how do you even reconcile the prodical son when the father as the son walks home says you've been my son the whole time he never removed it the son left and the

Kylafather allowed him to live out the consequences of that but the father didn't dis him the father send him away and when he came back he threw him a massive party yes the well the parable prodical but here's

Andrew Wilsonthe thing when you're looking at what happened in the results of the Prodigal Son the father did not go where the son was where the son was committing all these heinous acts stop we're not saying

Andrew Wilsonyou should start at only fans that's all we're saying we're not saying Jo only fans we're saying you're all sping you're all sping you're all spering calm down let me finish my point okay

Andrew Wilsondad didn't dad didn't go where he was Dad wasn't going and uh you know trying to pull him back he wasn't doing any of this he was saying I don't I don't endorse what it is that you're doing what you're going after yes he did say

Andrew Wilsonthat he told him it was a bad idea to leave that's a very big difference between he told him it was about now he left anyway after breaking the fortune and then when he came back humble when he came back humble with his tail

Andrew Wilsonbetween his legs crying his eyes out did his father say you you've now returned to me The Prodigal Son and now All is Forgiven you have always always is the

Kylakey word here you have always been they're still always your kid not if you them that doesn't mean you if you that doesn't mean you have to enable it in the cases like did he not go with them to like go and it up with

Andrew Wilsonand blow money on crack no he didn't but she's not saying Hey Dad come do only fans with me you should start my dad is no in my life yeah but my point my point is is this is that again when he came back humble when he came back correct

Andrew Wilsonwhen he came back from doing the horrible things that he was doing then Dad said yes welcome back in you were always my son of course I never stopped loving you but he was not endorsing all the

Andrew Wilsonthings me finish he was not endorsing all the things the kid was doing he was not going out of his way to make sure that the kid had additional money to continue sending where he was at he wasn't doing any of that asking that I'm not saying any of these things the issue

Kylais that if Christ is the example for parenting and he loves you every single step of the way dising your child is the opposite of that thing now I am fine with parents getting to decide if you like don't want

Kylato like support that they tell them explicitly like I would be fine with a relationship like my parents are Christian my brother's gay I'm fine with them regularly can Catholic Church actually communicate people yes but the Catholic church is in no way the same thing as yeah so is if the Catholic

Andrew WilsonChurch excommunicates somebody are you saying that what they're doing why do they excommunicate that's an ex we're getting okay make make a final point and I'm if

Kylayou if you make an excommunication why is it that they're not turning their back on their children okay an excommunication at an Apostolic level of the Catholic church is about Godless fools it's about proerties that is why

Kylathe Eastern Orthodox was removed they broke up with you because they thought that you got I know you guys broke up with us after but that's just not true the reason that they were I'm not a Catholic but

KylaI'm Catholic I'm more Catholic than I Eastern Orthodox 20 seconds 20 seconds churches excommunicate is because they're violating the nature of God himself not because they're doing a sin that they dislike it's extremely

Kyladifferent and these types of sins like blaspheming the holy spirit is in no way comparable to moral sins or virtue sins which maybe only fans as moral sins or maybe it's a virtue sin I'm not sure

Kylawhere it falls specifically but acting like the church can excommunicate so parents can excommunicate their children is a bastardization of why the Catholic Church does this in the first place so let's look at this logically to what

Andrew Wilsonsaying not what the distinction which the distinctions and the reasoning are yeah yeah I know I'm just trying to respond what the distinction and the reasonings are let's look at this from a holistic you claimed listen because

Andrew WilsonJesus Christ said thing X it's not proper for you to then say nope I'll walk away from this but it is proper for the Catholic Church to do the same thing under the same circumstances and your

Andrew Wilsononly claim to this is to say that they rejected that they rejected Christ so the same thing happens exactly is not rejecting Christ it can be rejecting

KylaChrist Blas Blas the Holy Spirit here thing what the what the Pharisees did was bad enough these are disanalogous and you're being dishonest no that's not they're

Brian Atlasnot disanalogous this is your logic no this is a logic of like all of the theolog your okay okay wait inter interlude uh can we can we see an aigal I guess just I love the inter let's do a

Kylalittle resarch why don't you do one try with me wait you're going to ask the women to do it but you're too cowardly to do how to do it that seems a little weird go ahead do you want do you want

Brian Atlasto do it oh God Lord have mercy yummy we must FOC we must okay all right let me get I'm trying to get through my notes cuz I don't want to be here uh he said I don't

Brian Atlaswant to be here no that's not what I meant I was in Brian okay so um Nala in your previous appearance on the show you claimed that you had a thing for for

Brian Atlascheating yeah I knew that was going to get brought up um for those who didn't previously see that are you uh is that still the case so I haven't dated anyone

NalaI haven't helped anyone cheat recently or even in at least the last year that I know of so H it's like I said it was a fantasy it is a fantasy you know what I

Alexamean like it's the compromise that you make in that sexual act is hot to me so I got so wait sorry you said help people

Nalacheating okay so like if they have a partner yes you're and I'm single like and we have sex so you're the home wrecker no I'm not so for me if you made that decision and you're in the

Nalarelationship I don't push anyone to do anything but if you want to have sex with me and you keep pushing that's on you you wanted out of that relationship before you know and how do I know that they haven't done it

Nalawith other people wait I thought you said you like to cheat on your your partners I did I really did because they hurt me you know and I was like you know what this this is hot I'm going to cheat on you and I'm going to get a

Nalabetter no but didn't you say even in a healthy relationship you I've never been in a healthy relationship but other people honestly no if you're in a healthy relationship you don't cheat no but you said even if you were in

Brian Atlasotherwise healthy relationship you would cheat because it's like a fantasy of yours is that correct if I was in a healthy relationship I'd hold on to it oh okay all right that's I feel

Nalalike so like I said when I cheat it's because you've gone so far with me you've pushed every button why don't you just break up with them because I need the satisfaction that I won

KylaI'm sorry I don't want to be an but like when guys like like remember when Chris Brown beat the out of Brianna and I'm not saying that these are identical behaviors I was remember when Chris Brown was a big

Kylameanie Bob beini towards Brianna um no it's just that I'm trying to see how relation the relevance here is if you try to justify a negative behavior out of Vengeance because of what another

Kylaperson has done to you we wouldn't take that type of argumentation for any Behavior this is like the actual abuser tactic of being like I I just have to Gaslight you because you make me because you're so crazy right it's like no

Nalathat's not how any of this works so when I cheat that's the end like why don't you just cheat why don't you just end it yeah oh because like I said it's a fantasy it wouldn't be cheating if we broke up it would just be

Brian Atlasa hookup okay all right we have I feel it's a cal beh L totally cool very cool yeah cool I just feel like I have the toit things that other people don't

Nalawould you agree maybe you know it's cool it is immoral I don't think it's right I just said it was a fantasy along with a lot of other things I like all right we have a chat here Darien Murphy Jesus

Brian Atlassaid by following him we would be we would have be we would have be divided do you think I came to bring peace on Earth no I tell you but division from now on there will be five in one family

Kyladivided against each other three against 2 and two against three Luke 12:51 to 52 oh my gosh okay biblical deconstructivism is like damn near heretical like Protestants do it all the time and that's not how you engage with

Kylathe Bible I don't know exactly all of Luke 12 but I'm pretty sure that this verse has almost nothing to do with only fans or children sitting against their parents and I think it's specifically about like end time prophecies and like

Kylatalking about in many ways how like the tribal churches were super like disintegrated and uncoordinated I could be wrong I need to read 12 but biblical deconstruction is just bad don't do it nothing you're talking about like one

Andrew Wilsonthing one thing I can agree with right is that Protestant ex aesus is usually bad okay usually bad here about Herpes yep it's about

SPEAKER_00Herpes a biological sewer Factory a biological sewer at what point does the government step and stop the spread of this place I don't need the government Brian n on I got you the does the government have to do with

Kylaonly fants well they could shut that wasn't the good nuke hold on I'll send the better nuke one sec that's what he's saying they could shut it down I mean only fans would be like the worst thing to shut down to stop herpes because it's like non contact sexual behavior

Brian Atlasprobably shut down like escorting and stuff like that but also asking like her I don't think we have uh Nala uh I discovered something about you oh my uh

Brian Atlasnothing bad it's nothing too crazy I don't think there's anything that bad about me I uh I actually you know compared to you know you do you do the only fans whatever okay but there's one

Brian Atlasindividual who you've been intimate with who publicly that I object to that I

Nalaobject to uh his name is Vitali you and let's Nick you got to find that's a big talk oh my God he he

Naladoesn't so that was him up that was so long ago listen I you had it was the worst decision of

Nalamy life oh wait you regret I hate him okay hate such a strong word he's terrible he's such an obnoxious human being I went to go make content with him

Nalaat a um we where were we we were at a college not like of content we made like a video for like YouTube and stuff yeah most obnoxious man I've ever met in my

Nalalife like I'm a content creator I knew how things were supposed to go and yes I made an only fans video with him it was the worst thing I've ever done in my life I wish I could take it back I wish

Brian AtlasI could just you know delete him from my whole brain um and was this before or after his you know his incident after way after this was like did did you know about it though did you know or you

Nalafound out after okay so what happened was I kind of found out after I didn't know how severe the situation was until after my assistant came up to me and was like hey you should read this and I was

Nalalike are you with me I didn't know it was like real I honestly thought it was kind of like a joke until then he opened up about it and was like oh yeah blah acted like it wasn't even a big

Naladeal and I felt so disgusted I was like this man is like doesn't belong here like he needs to go back to wherever he came from it is awful I don't think he's a good person at all can we get a little

Nalabit more context background Vali did something very he took a lot of something and then ended

Brian Atlasup hurting and very innocent person oh wow a woman a woman hurt he used to he's a prankster on YouTube I'm a terrible

Nalaperson I used to do some pranks of you know familiar familiar with him um and uh I honestly thought it was a joke I thought it was a joke cuz he does all

Nalathe he does like bottle smashing on people's heads and stuff and I was like oh this is a this has got to be a joke it was not a joke I was like he's actually smash botels physically I a lot of YouTube like a lot of like the

SalemYouTube pranksters I feel like that's what's really wrong with like like Society cuz now you're who watches those mostly kids a lot of kids are the ones who mostly watch like prank videos and

Salemall that and I feel like a lot of Jake Paul and all that it's just been like so bad thank you okay um sorry but like

Brian Atlasjust had to say that it's gross uh but I was I do you not like him I was I'm curious I don't want to get I don't want to get into it but there's like some old

Brian Atlasold I'm not going to get into it but um I certainly don't like him because of the incident that occurred with the woman in Florida but

Brian Atlasuh I'm appalled I hope I never see him again okay there's a bit of tea there all right we have modest Tama uh Brian I Now understand why Michael NS canceled I

Brian Atlaswould have two two3 of the penals okay that's not nice that's not nice uh why you think MK wants to associate with uh well first off I I don't I don't like

Brian Atlasthis characterization of the panel here uh but um Michael nolles did not cancel because we've had them on the show before we're we're on very good terms

Brian Atlaswith the daily wire and uh they had like this last minute uh kind of almost impromptu unannounced just dropping this

Brian Atlasnew Premiere thing and they had the premiere in Nashville so it's a a like a movie it's a film like is the Brett Cooper like Snow White movie or no it's

Brian Atlasuh it's something uh I don't I forgot what the title is but uh I guess that's coming out soon or maybe it already came out but okay also it's crazy to act like people don't want to be on this platform with like thousands of viewers and stuff

Kylalike Michael noas has only everything to gain by being on this panel especially if he can like on some like women and all that's do all that does I don't know that's fair but but yeah it's good for him of course well no but I

Brian Atlasmean he's obviously very big in his own right so I'm not I don't have a big ego about it it's just things happen and we're we're we're already in conversations to reschedule it so he's he's going to come back on but all right

Brian Atlaswe have uh bass here question for the N the Nala hello the Nala uh the women generally and the layup for Andrew why is honor and virtue not the most important thing about men to you I only heard one lady talk about how character

Nalais important how could you ever let someone without honor and virtue have S with you discuss please okay so for me honor and virtue I've not been shown by a man I feel like men the men I've been

Nalawith don't show that at all they don't have like a pride in who they are they don't have a pride in what they do they I think honor truly has to do with like having pride in who you are as a person

Nalathat would be the opposite of virtue hm pride pride is the pride is in like confidence you're like

Nalayou're as a person you're just extremely about what you do I don't know gravity but I feel like even so men that I've

Nalaseen and stuff or they lie they lie and I don't feel like they ever show their woman like how to be loyal like set an example then you know what I mean

Nalathat's so sad I feel like that doesn't even answer or begin to answer the question so but you're telling me that pride is like selfish and I'm like no it's not well one one of one of the seven deadly sins I think she's trying

Andrew Wilsonto the question was why the question he's asking or he's trying to get at is he's saying he's saying that he's saying listen if they don't have virtues why would you do that with them anyway and

Andrew Wilsonso what you said is well none of them have ever ever show me the virtues which been single for two years now but that just leads back to the question of yeah I know that they're not showing you any virtues so why are you doing this with them when they don't have any virtues

Nalabut who am I doing it with I've been single well before you well yeah before you were single oh because I feel like you know you jump into relationships because you like who they are and you don't know them that well and you don't know if they have honor and virtue right

Pixieaway so I feel like that's kind of a hard thing to determine what's that which they Li they pretend to you talking about how like oh you think people are lying so you think that they have virtue and honor and all these things and it turns out that it was

Nalawrong here we got something you care about what virtues and honor I feel like virtues come in different forms like what it kind of depends on what kind of Virtues like are you honest

Andrew Wilsonare you true to yourself are you brave are you courageous like what kind of Virtues are we talking about well so let's just take a a simple one like um let's say just Temperance temp Temperance is a virtue it's like

Nalasomebody who's even killed for instance would you consider that to be virtuous I think that's extremely virtuous to be able to contain yourself in multiple different situations mhm mhm yeah so I

Andrew Wilsonhaven't seen that though I really haven't uh so I don't know I feel like I try to find that in myself but I can't dictate that to anyone yeah got it so what the what he's asking is since you're not finding those things those

Kylathings that you consider virtues that you're agreeing with me are virtues in the men why do anything with him that's his question that's what he's not understanding it's it's a weird question because it it makes it seem like the way that women think about how they're going

Kylato have sex is they like have this check boox and they're like watching and being like Oh how does he act here virtues are really hard to establish mostly especially right away mostly need time and experience like how do they react when like somebody like Cuts them off

Kylahow do they react like when we have a disagreement about a situation so there's like a lot of testing that has to occur so probably what's actually true is like men and women mostly care I think about how you make them feel

Kylathat's broadly why people tend to get into a relationship and I would agree that I don't think our society is doing a good job of teaching people how to vet in their relationship right you can act

Andrew Wilsonyou can act in these things these are but this is like um the descriptive is so what he's still asking though is he's saying even if that's true if what if what KY is saying is true and um kind of

Andrew Wilsonwe just go with our feelings at the time kind of that type of thing why wouldn't you why would you want to shoulder those until you found somebody who is virtuous

Andrew Wilsonbefore you decided to engage in a sexual relationship with him that's the point that he's trying to bring to be that's what he's trying to say and he's trying to say because this what I think anyway he's trying to say it's because you don't

Nalaactually care about virtues that's not what you're after not after anyone in general so it's like yeah but before you some people just grow and change like I don't know

Pixiewhat some people just want sexual relationship ships which is like what their own prerogative they're allowed to do that um some people believe that others are virtuous and think that that's established and ends up that they're deceived so there's like a whole

Brian Atlasvariety of reasons why women might have sex with unver virtuous men that isn't just they don't care about have sex with unver virtuous women all the time here let's okay hold on uh Nick can you pull up twitch please guys go to twitch.tv/

Brian Atlaswhatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one thank you guys okay so last question for you Nala uh you are you uh Jack de doy do Hardy I

Brian Atlaslove you do you are you he's like has a of management company are you working with him or not no I'm not you've just collaborated with him have you done have you done a scene with Jack yeah somewhat

Nalait wasn't a full scene or anything but yeah it was kind of fun God it and so it it was definitely not a full scene I want to bring it back to everybody's

Brian Atlasrelationship status so uh single married married single single single single and then Andrew's married um when you guys what are

Nalayou I have to keep things uh vague a little bit you know um damn so okay not very virtuous we claim her proud you know oh

Nalamaybe it is virtuous because he want do they know about each other is like my main question all right so I'm just kidding I'm just kidding by the way I have no tee so okay

Brian Atlasnuke it Brian everybody's those of you who said you're single what does single actually mean so I guess my question for you uh I'm not messing around with anyone we're going

Nalaaround the table uh you're not currently I'm not sexually active at all right now last time you went on a date though like are you it's been a minute I really wanted to just kind of dive deep into

Brian Atlasmyself you know when's the last time uh you've hung out with a guy romantically maybe you guys didn't hook up or anything maybe you didn't go on an official date but you hung out with a guy in a romantic it's been months

Nalamonths months months no one really interests me like this is the thing I feel like I'm just pursuing what about Nick other thing huh my uh producer back

Nalathere Nick what's up with Nick does he interest you he's cute yeah he's cute oh yeah he's tall he's a tall glass of water you hear that you hear that Nick he's blushing I can feel um does it does

Nalait change anything for you that he's a nick can I share you can share he's is a virgin he's a virgin a no that's so sweet actually it's so sweet every guy wants to hear your virginity is so cute

Brian Atlasbut it is though like the fact would you take it sorry I'm sorry sorry Nick is it okay if I ask that Nick it's okay okay so sorry I'm sorry okay if he just straight out asked me it'd be like no

Brian Atlasbut if we like went on some dates and he went snowboarding with me yeah okay I see okay um you're single but what does that actually mean mean are you there is

Pixiethere some guy are do you are you by I'm by I'm is there a guy in the picture a woman in the picture um I mean there's a guy that I've gone on a couple dates with I mean we'll see if it develops

Pixiefurther I don't want to give glowing BL when's the last time you saw him um I don't want to give a timeline cuz I'm afraid people are going to be

Brian Atlasable yeah but um yeah it's like recently I'll I'll like yeah okay all right uh what about you you said you recently got out of your situation or whatever yep um

Brian Atlasso good for you for getting out of that by have you had rebounds cuz you were you oh that's right you deserve better please please you were on the dating app uh yeah yep

Brian Atlasand on your dating I think we did we react to it last stream a little bit it wasn't really nothing to talk about yeah you said you're like I'm in town for a couple days if there's any dudes blah blah blah so have you had a

Caitlynrebound no I haven't really had time for a rebound time um you've not met up with any guys while so I have I've met up with some so the the first time I was over here I met up

Caitlynwith one guy he was real cool but all like it wasn't really a rebound it was more like I I'm hanging out with people so that they can show me new things around here cuz I'm not from here and um

CaitlynI wasn't really looking for sex or nothing like romantic if if anything at at most take me out on a date show me what food you like around here pay for it so that I don't have to pay for while I'm on my trip okay um nothing I'm not

Brian Atlasreally looking for nothing romantic or sexual it's just little too much are you're are you talking to anybody right now or no no nobody nobody zero zero okay oh wait really quick coming back to

Brian Atlasyou Kyla you in your pre-show notes Here you wrote in this space uh finding out my husband is my first and only sex partner is apparently crazy uh so is that you yeah I was a virgin until I met

Kylamy husband all right there you go it's actually not all it's like cracked up to be I feel like people idealize that but do they I'm so curious about that I'm so curious about that so I grew up super fundamental Christian I'm still

KylaChristian I'm just not a fundamentalist anymore um I think the way that that sexual Purity is often attained in the church is through a lot of like shame so a lot of

Kylamy like friends that got married felt like immediately dirtied and defiled after having sex even though they waited until marriage like there's this really common problem so some really uncomfortable stats every time I say

Kylathese words men get uncomfortable I've never heard that yeah vaginismus rates are almost triple in religious particularly fundamental religious uh couples so if you don't know what vaginismus is it's when like your sorry

Kylayour vaginal hole is really tight and penetration is like excruciatingly painful to sometimes impossible um so vaginus is is really high and orgasm rates also in like more fundamental relationships is significantly lower for

Kylawomen as well so like this idea being a virgin I'm I'm definitely Pro I think sex should be treated as like a sacred thing um I don't really agree with like the casual sex stuff I think some people seem to be like sociosexual and be able

Kylato manage it I think most people are lying to themselves if I'm being honest but I live in a liberal Society you can lie to yourself if you want um and so there was like a lot of issues

Kylathat came from me being a virgin is was like I think I'm like deeply sexually mature compared to where I think I would like to be at the state my marriage like I'm a very financially mature and stuff like that but there's a lot of things that I feel like there's like

Kylanervousness and fear I remember I used to like jerk in be fearful when men touched me um and so I'm not saying that sex isn't sacred but I think a lot of men in the red pill space idealize my

Kylacircumstance with my husband and I just really want to emphasize like it's tough like it's really tough there was a lot of problems that Happ been bleeding for like 5 days excruciating pain shame like

Andrew Wilsonyeah I think we have to be cautious when we talk about virginity as far as like how we why would we need to be cautious like what would be the alternative to that except to have SE or you know what I mean what would be the alternative Rel

Kylato like talk about healthy relationships and healthy sex rather than just shaming women in the church for having any level of sexuality do you wish you would have had sex before your marriage that's part but that's part of it to experim part of

Andrew Wilsonit yeah it does need to be part of yes it does you're trying to deter the behavior okay no no no no no no no no hold on um just I I I really got to move on so okay was your husband also a

Kylavirgin no okay oh he wasn't but okay and it was a really big issue by the way for me for for you or okay yeah it really bothered me at first cuz I was I was still decently Fundy when we met you're

Kyladecently what fun sorry fundament I thought you said funy funy yeah the opposite of that um be brief please go ahead it bothered me okay um Eden you

Brian Atlassaid you're single yeah yeah are you actually single though uh yeah I'm pretty single there's no guy in the picture not May a lady friend nothing zero there was like one

Edenguy I was like dealing with but then um he had like a girl as his wallpaper like class we came around so I had to block him and okay well I have some notes here so you said in your pre notes to us you

Brian Atlassaid you had two boyfriends at once I had a cuck boyfriend who like I think you shared this eating you out after you got with somebody

Brian Atlaselse get the Rocks Abdul yeah get the Rocks get the rocks okay well you're into that so okay

Brian Atlasyou've been in open poly Rel uh situations um you said dating a n work uh and how people are entitled to have the boundary of not wanting to date a

Brian Atlassex worker which I think that's fair um how a lot of people lying about being being able to be monogamous um do you think so do you think people are

Edenincapable of being monogamous um I don't think that no one's capable of being monogamous but I do think like the structure of like we're going to date for a month and then either we're g to be monogamous till the day we die or like hate each other and break up kind

SPEAKER_02of thing doesn't really work for a lot of people and it should be kind of more normal to be able to just like hey we deal with each other and dating doesn't have to be the most natural instant conclusion love to give to a third

Edenperson or another then that's you and your partner and if not then that's and some people would never want like some people think they could never be monogamous cuz some people would be like yeah I want to get married but I could just never imag having sex with one

Edenperson the rest of my life some people can imagine that and some people can't so it's just kind of like I feel like a personal preference thing like for me I think because I'm just a super sexually fluid person that if what does it mean to be sexually flu

EdenI just I don't know like I don't have lot to love to give I don't have like one specific like this is my like my kink like I just like trying everything okay and so like I feel like for me like

Edenthe person for me who would be most like me would probably be someone like we wouldn't be constantly dealing with other people but maybe go to a swingers club once in a while or you know invite someone to the relationship once in a while like when I was in that thle it

Edenwas so natural like it wasn't something we went out and forced it was that it the other boyfriend so naturally played into our situation it was like why wouldn't we do this I never even thought I was someone who' like that it just

Brian Atlaskind of came out that way sure and then you also said every everybody is by every girl girls effed a dude who FS dudes oh yeah I say cuz girls will talk about I could never get with a guy who's a guy but you probably have and

Brian Atlasjust don't know it literally because a lot of these men are by the same way women are but then it's like okay I don't know about that yeah a lot of these men are DL and then a lot of men and a lot of straight men think no IM you attracted to cucks so like obviously

Edenthe guys who are cucks they're probably more likely to be but the thing is when you find out one man's by you find out the network of the man and then it surprises you cuz when you find one other and then you find all the other ones it' be the most masculine and then

Brian Atlasknowing sex workers and knowing other most masculine men are are they're projecting a lot of the they say DL I think Down Low Down Low gay okay all

Edenright um the most I don't know about that the hood guys or the the guys with a bunch of face tattoos are bending over

Edenthey're literally a lot of a lot of them are not every single one but it happens a lot but isn't it just the case that that those are the circles that you move in like and no it's also that like okay like for me like I I'm I'm from the

Edenwoman in a lot of variety of sex work okay and like I have one friend um like you hear certain stories and it's just like it's not really surprising like these girls who like a lot of their job is a lot of times when men have fetishes or Kinks or sexual preferences they

Edencan't tell their friends or girls they deal with they're going to tell a sex worker whether it's a girl only fans a stripper in a club or an esort that's who they're going to open up to and so being friends with lot of those girls you hear crazy things they you know they just want to get pegged or they want to

Edenum they want a girl to make them suck dick that's another thing that's common in Fon because they don't want want to feel like they're gay they want a girl to make them suck dick so they can feel like they're still they forced to almost yeah like it's OD like it's still gay but you know what I'm saying like

Edenthere's all these kind of interesting weird fetishes or I feel like a lot of the time um I feel like obviously all trans women experience like it's all types and passing not passing can experience violence but I feel like like

Edenwe're talking about Megan Fox with dick I feel like that type of thing incites a different level of anger in men because they didn't know and they were initially attracted oh you know no and then but

Edensometimes they're still attracted and that's saying if if no man likes it it's so few and far in between why do these women make so much money because why is why are there millions don't buy porn

Brian Atlasmen buy porn exactly same thing with like gay porn like the numbers aren't matching in gay porn views the gay men real life I don't know I don't really care to speculate on why it is if I don't know if it's even true but it's

Brian Atlasnot really uh something that's worth okay Salem do you you said you consider I I'm don't want to misquote you did you say you consider yourself

Brian Atlastraditional uh in what bro you got to talk into the mic please in what way um relationships oh relationships can you please scoot the

Salemmic closer to you relationships well did you in your pre-show notes to us did you con say that you consider yourself traditional yeah but now that I'm thinking about it in what way did you

Brian Atlasmean like traditional in relationship or religion way I mean I think you politics I think you wrote a note to us in your pre-show notes and you said I I I'm not sure if I'm right here do you consider yourself

Salemtraditional here let me I'll pull up the in well uh in what way though okay cuz I don't I don't remember the I don't remember like

Brian Atlaswhat question it was or what I said your parents are fundamentalist Muslims oh you you you described yourself as liberal traditional in response to my question of do you consider yourself do

Brian Atlasyou consider yourself liberal moderate conservative apolitical and do you consider yourself feminist or traditional and you said you consider yourself traditional okay I I guess I

Salemwould I I kind of take that back the traditional thing you like being in a feminine role like no no I I guess I was just talking about in like

Salemcultural views that you think a men should pay type of thing like yeah like that exactly like that's what I meant by traditional but honestly like my my

Salemviews on everything are just so all over the place I honestly don't like to label things so I I wouldn't really like say I was traditional cuz someone someone

Brian Atlascould take that you said you had a crazy sugar baby

Brian Atlasstory uh I have a lot to be honest like there I've been a sugar baby for a really long time but how many uh okay I'll ask some clarifying questions uh how many sugar daddies have you had total you can give a

Salemrange probably like 30 oh wow damn wow sorry sorry how many like 30 30 total okay

Salemyeah and uh how do you meet them also I also am including like pay pigs pay pigs what it just for the people watching who don't know what that is what's a pay Pig

Salema pay pig is basically someone that um like a paypig is basically someone that

Salemkind of like uh gives you like let's say like my pay Pig he'll be like I I I don't want you to like I don't want to just send you the money you have to

Salemrequest it from like I want you to drain my bank account type thing like a payb is someone that submits to you in a in a way so how many of the 30 plus would you

Brian Atlassay were pay pigs half of them uh half of them yeah okay so a pay pig is just somebody who sends you money without you having to do anything whereas a sugar sugar daddy he has some expectations

Salemmaybe you have to send him photos or talk with him yeah and most of my sugar daddies are like just regular relationships how how many do you currently have uh right now well right

Brian Atlasnow I have about like five but one pigs or five sugar daddies or both four pay pigs and one sugar daddy okay I see do they know that

Brian Atlasyou have other not I don't think that really they they they know and so okay you have I'm curious so um when you say

Brian Atlasthat you drain their money uh what What's the transaction that's occurring basically they send you like 100 bucks no so I'll be talking to them and then they will want me to send like you know

Salemon cash app how you can request they don't want to just send me an amount they want me to like request so they can like see me like taking it from them cuz it's not like me taking them in person

Salemso they want that like getting off on me taking it cuz they get off on that I see so okay then it's like demanding being a brat cuz I've had one pay Pig in person

Brian Atlasand he would like bow down and like you know show up to my house and just like knock on the door put the money there and then leave and so what's the average is such a

Brian Atlasplague suck great it's it's bad um what's like the average payment that would receive from a pay Pig I'm going

Salemto plead the fifth on that one no it's interesting you should share uh I mean how okay at once or in total uh both

Salemwould be good okay so like I mean at in total honestly I can't even a lot of them have like could finance my whole

Brian Atlaslife like I wouldn't have to you know do anything do you uh like do you want to give give try to give a range you said you said total and then like at individual

Salempayments okay so like an in individual payment sometimes they'll wire like 10,000 sometimes they'll like it it really depends it really depends good

Brian Atlasfor you oh my god holy an individual payment so I am also a mistress like in training so like I do what is a mistress in training uh Like

Brian AtlasYou married men no W is that what aist no well there's it's very different it's like oh okay but so okay 10,000 is 10,000 the most individual payment that

Salemyou've ever received you've received higher than 10 what's the highest um honestly I can't remember it's so like years apart six figures ever six figures no no not at

Salemonce 50,000 no probably like 30,000 wait do you speak Arabic yes the some of these larger payments do

Brian Atlasthey I ple the you're going to get her in trouble please no do they come pafic yeah can we play wary war no no no no

Brian Atlasokay mind whatever happens out of the country really she really can't I really can't no no no she can you're from Canada first off you don't you don't know about the IR I know a lot more

Unknownabout geopolitics than you do so I am being very serious for literally like if you like need to be safe you should definitely not yeah no I no she's

Brian Atlassafe she's she's safe um right here okay so right now in this country I am okay um so uh so you answered individually what about like uh total that somebody's

Salemwell also a lot of it comes in like things like they'll buy me like Chanel bags B how much is a Chanel bag I don't bin that was like what

Nalahow hundreds of thousands sometimes um I'd say like a what a main Birkin like a base base would be like 50 have two birkens that were like two birkens

Salem10,000 and I have a big b I think you've seen it that one was also a gift and it was okay so you receive gifts that have um a high high value sometimes like I'd

Salemrather receive so let's talk total payments though why don't you give us your top top five I don't know I don't know I can't it's been like you can honestly sometimes I won't even look

Brian Atlaslike I'll it just goes in my bank do you think any let me ask you this do you think I don't even know how much money is in my bank account do you think any or do you know if any given man has sent

Brian Atlasyou more than $100,000 total oh yeah oh yeah yeah multiples multiple how how many of the 30 total that you've had

Brian Atlaswould you say have sent you more than $100,000 not too many probably only like seven do you have a name for them you are they

Brian Atlasyeah so wait that would that would be that would be over $700,000 um wow good hey good for you um has anybody in the seven figure total

Brian Atlasrange no has anybody sent you over a million okay um that would be crazy what do you call these like the the guys who spend big money would you call them whales is there a term for them yes

Caitlynthey're called whales my whales um pay pigs whales sugar daddies damn can I ask you a question ask do you

Caitlynplan on doing the pay Pig stuff after like once you quit Okay that's what I I thought but legally can you do that when you're yeah over

Salemthere all right I'm not oh my God so I'm not saying I'm doing this but hypothe obiously when you're in a rich country it's it's not even like sex it's not sex

Salemwork cuz we're not having sex right it's a guy takes you out gives you money buys you nice Tak you shopping life on easy mode it's just that's how it is and obviously how old are you you're 20 yeah

Brian Atlasand you've made just not counting your only fans not not counting any other Ventures it sounds like you've made over a million dollars from pay pigs and sugar

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