She BANKRUPTS Men?! Women STRONGER?! Debate GOD Andrew Wilson! Ahegao Queen Nala! | Dating Talk #123

Date: 2023-12-01

Duration: 7h 06m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKyla (NotSoErudite)>

PPixie (DT130)>

SSalem (DT128)>

AAlexa (Whatever)>

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_03Eden(guest)

SPEAKER_05Caitlyn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Salem(guest)

SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_08Kyla(guest)

SPEAKER_10Nala(guest)

SPEAKER_13Alexa(guest)

SPEAKER_14Pixie(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as the 'Ahegao Queen', 25yo, lives in the valley, OnlyFans.

“hi I'm Nala the AO queen I am 25 years old I literally live in the valley right now in California and I'm on only fans”

QuoteNala reveals she had a kink for cheating but clarifies it was in unhealthy relationships, and that in a healthy relationship she would not cheat.

“I haven't helped anyone cheat recently or even in at least the last year”

Key MomentAndrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans 'until she cleaned up her life.'

“I would not be participating with her or allow her in my life it's probably EAS that why is that awful”

QuoteBrian reveals Nala earns nearly $150,000/month from OnlyFans.

“I went from being a pastor's daughter to millionaire only fans model and make nearly $150,000 a month”

Key MomentKyla (NotSoErudite) invokes the Prodigal Son parable against Andrew's disowning position.

“the father allowed him to live out the consequences of that but the father didn't dis him”

QuoteNala confirms she could have retired a year before this episode.

“I could have retired a year ago”

QuoteSalem reveals she has had ~30 sugar daddies/pay pigs, with 7 sending over $100k each.

“not too many probably only like seven”

ControversyAndrew Wilson calls Pixie 'not worth debating' over her refusal to concede men are stronger than women.

“if you're so stupid you don't understand men are stronger than women you're not worth debating”

QuotePixie finally concedes men are stronger than women after Kyla presents a meta-analysis framework.

“based on the information that I've gained from this episode I'm going to say yes the men would be stronger than women”

QuoteCaitlyn admits to physically striking her ex-boyfriend multiple times during arguments at age ~16.

“I would just have a physical reaction”

QuoteNala says she collaborated with YouTube prankster Vitaly on an OnlyFans video and deeply regrets it.

“it was the worst thing I've ever done in my life I wish I could take it back”

QuoteEden reveals a body count of approximately 50-70, mostly condensed into a few months at age 19.

“it's definitely under 70 maybe 60 maybe 6 like it's up”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show; guests introduce themselves: Nala Ray, Kyla/NotSoErudite, Pixie, Caitlyn, Eden, Salem, Alexa, Andrew Wilson.

Relationship Status & Dating History

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, recent situationships. Includes Caitlyn's ex passing on Thanksgiving, Nala's 2-year single streak, Salem's 30+ on-off breakup situation, Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment, Kyla's 6-year marriage.

OnlyFans: Finances, Family Reactions, Career Plans

Discussion of OF earnings, family knowledge and reactions. Nala's $150k/month, ability to retire. Salem's sugar daddies (~30 total, >$700k combined). Nala's pastor father accepts her. Eden's Catholic Filipina mom. Kyla's Muslim family risk. Whether OF is a career or stepping stone.

Pastor's Daughter to OnlyFans (Nala's Story)

Nala's background as a pastor's daughter. Felt caged by church modesty standards. Left at 18. Pursued OnlyFans for financial freedom and self-expression. Invests and supports family.

Parenting, Disowning, and Enabling Adult Children

Andrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans until she 'cleaned up.' Debate on Christian parenting, the Prodigal Son parable, parental love vs. enabling. Nala, Eden, Kyla present counter-arguments.

Monogamy, Polyamory, and Relationship Structures

Eden discusses non-monogamy, having had two boyfriends simultaneously (cuck dynamic). Debate on whether monogamy is natural. Kyla's marriage separation. Salem's on-off relationship patterns.

Sugar Babies, Pay Pigs, and Wealth Extraction

Salem discusses ~30 sugar daddy/pay pig relationships, individual payments up to $30k, multiple men sending over $100k total. Explains pay pig dynamics. Plans to quit OF when moving to Dubai.

Physical Strength: Men vs. Women

Brian revisits debate from previous episode with Pixie. Pixie resists conceding men are physically stronger. Panel cites grip strength studies, deadlift records, high-school boys vs. female Olympians. Pixie eventually concedes based on meta-analysis framing by Kyla. Andrew Wilson frustrated by Pixie's position.

Dating App Culture and 50 Dates/50 Days

Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment: met first serious boyfriend on date 14, second on date 23. Brian's reaction: would leave a date if she had 7 more lined up. Panel debates whether simultaneous multi-dating is ethical.

Feminism, Oppression, Patriarchy

Survey of feminist positions on the panel. Debate on patriarchy, systemic oppression of women in the US, sexual harassment in STEM. Whether you can be racist against white people or sexist against men. Andrew Wilson challenges systemic racism definitions.

Racism, Sexism, and Definitions

Can you be racist against white people? Can you be sexist against men? Panel votes; debate on power+prejudice definition vs. simple prejudice. Andrew Wilson's logic about Asian vs. Black racism. Pixie's struggle to apply framework consistently.

Trans Women, Sexuality, and the 'Gay' Hypothetical

Extended debate: is it gay to perform oral on a trans woman? Megan Fox vs. Hulk Hogan hypothetical. What determines sexual orientation — genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, or attraction. Kyla and Andrew's prolonged categorical argument.

American Civil War and Slavery

Brief debate: Andrew Wilson says he would have sided with the Confederacy for sovereignty reasons (not slavery). Caitlyn and Kyla argue every seceding state's declaration mentioned slavery.

Plastic Surgery and Body Standards

Brian argues against plastic surgery; prefers natural bodies. Salem discusses insecurity from being in the OF industry (skinny body not featured). Kyla cites studies showing small amounts of plastic surgery can reduce psychiatric illness rates. Salem considering moving to Europe for natural beauty standards.

Body Count Round

End-of-show body count round. Nala: doesn't count. Eden: ~50-70. Alexa: can count on one hand. Andrew Wilson: more than one hand but wife is watching. Salem: declined to answer. Kyla/NotSoErudite: 1 (husband only). Pixie: not stated.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaslet's be real like most transgender women are nowhere near even approaching the physical Beauty of Megan Fox sure I like I would argue

Brian Atlasif you were to line up 100 transgender women like I mean I don't know if I got a good vision for that but I could probably tell there's a test you should take it the there's aest there's a test to be like is it a trans woman is a

Kylareal woman and every single guy who has told me that has failed that test okay I may who knows yeah cuz there's like a lot of super so I agree like the average trans woman is probably not passing cuz they tend not to try to even transition until post puberty and like you can't

Kylaget rid of like NFL shoulders a little rough right but like I'm sorry men saying that they would prefer Hulk Hogan of vagina most of them are just lying I think a better why is it a I think

Andrew Wilsonbecause they would rather have realize that men actually find it heterosexual men would actually find that to be physically revolting to have to suck another man off they find it so

Andrew Wilsonphysically abor and revolting that why wouldn't they go for the alternative what you're really saying there is that men who have sex with ugly women are gay that's what you're actually saying I'm

Kylasaying men who have sex with women who have all male sex secondary characteristics ug women hen are what mild men who have sex with ugly women

Kylalet's go back to my statement I said men who prefer to have sex with Hulk Hogan ridiculous such a ridiculous I will I will walk everyone through my hypothetical again because again it is

Kylaobviously more gay to suck Megan Fox's dick than to have sex with Megan Fox's vagina obviously that's true it's a dick you mean I'm extending our hypothetical this

Brian Atlasexample is so ridiculous though because I think a more fair a more fair example to use let's take comparing the average woman who's of average Beauty and average her bodies physically men are

Unknowngoing to prefer average comparing it to an average transgender woman but Mo that's not what the hypothetical is about but that it's such a ridiculous hypothetical but that's how hypotheticals work you test ideas to the

Unknownextreme though like if we're going to if we're going to I agree but there's not a lot of Megan foxes with dicks running around and there's not a lot of whole vag the extreme let's also be realistic if you're going to say Megan Fox with a

Alexadick poor Megan Fox and Hulk Hogan in the situation can't you give like a very attractive man and you could say like Ryan Reynolds with a vagina you know what I mean like

Alexahyper masculine but not necessarily considered like attra normal attractive Hulk Hogan yeah like I respect him he's a good sure uh very fit man but Ryan Reynolds has like more of the female gays I feel like than the male gays though but that's what I'm saying if

Alexayou're choosing a sex symbol for men that's Megan Fox you have to choose the equivalent of what that would be Ryan Reynolds with a vagina like you're saying Hulk Hogan men wouldn't be attracted what you're actually saying

Andrew Wilsonthough ultimately is that if a man has heterosexual sex with a female who's ugly they're gay ugly wom aren't filled with second you are because when you say

Kylaif you say I can prove this I can prove this I can steal man your argument I'm going to pause you for a second let me steal man let me steal man it I'm going to no I'm going to pause you because what you're trying to do is frame the argument no

Andrew WilsonI'm just going to steal man you and you can say if I'm wrong or right words into my you can say if I'm wrong or right okay so the steel man is if you're attracted to the secondary sex characteristics of the the this person

Andrew Wilsonand they're all male they're all male secondary sex characteristics are what we would consider male secondary sex characteristics so like abs and I I don't know whatever they are yeah yeah

Andrew Wilsonall that wide shoulders y got it all of that so you're attracted to those things but you're having sex with that person because they have an actual vagina right

Kylayeah okay so you're a little bit more gay yeah yeah yeah so so I have I steel manned this correctly uh I I reject that because ugly women aren't just masculine women I guess there's a lot of ugly women that are not masul so so hang on

Kylawell there might be a guy like a girl who's really unattractive but also has no male secondary sex characteristics and I wouldn't say he's more gay but yeah if you're attracted to all of the if you're attracted to Ryan goling with a vagina it's a little bit

Andrew Wilsonmore gay yeah okay obvious so then here's the difference the distinction the distinction when we're asked this hypothetical who would you rather do x with would you rather do this with the

Andrew Wilsonheterosexual right or have heterosexual sex or homosexual sex based on the secondary sex characteristic beauty standards yeah and the man picks the Hulk Hogan what is

Andrew Wilsonthe objection there when you call it a cope because you switch the argument to say no it's if they're attracted to the secondary sex 00 I would be on board with trans if it

SPEAKER_00was similar to tady boys they are not pretending like they are actual females the problem is trans women act like they are actually female brain dead Okay TR

Kylabeen lying about like what's going on is bad right that would be unethical in my view but like that's literally to my point yeah a lot of men would just choose really sexy F boys to have sex

Kylawith especially if it's casual sex but obv not true I'm just telling you they're coping yeah but all Not all men let me the question so let me

Andrew Wilsongive you the question back within the hypothetical of you had to choose right understand you switching it to say I'm sorry if you're attracted to secondary sex characteristics on a man then that

Andrew Wilsonmeans that you have homosexual tendencies okay I can totally agree with that but you did switch it so and and you say it's cope when men say this why

Kylawould it be cope for them to pick the thing that had the vagina because they're lying because they're not engaging honestly with the hypothe they are because they're most people most

Kylapeople select their sexual mates based on like how they look and how attracted they are when you put them in this type of binary you're being like if you knew that they had forah but the reality is that's not how anyone engages in sexual

KylaDynamics at all absolutely not and most people will pick the fboys regularly all the time but isn't the argument isn't the argument what possible way could you demonstrate no you don't go to wait a

Andrew Wilsonsecond you go to Thailand and what happens in Thailand is you're left with a a bifurcated choice that you must a F boy or not a fan booy what are you talking about actually what actually happens is that there's tons of lady

Andrew Wilsonboys walking around that are hotter than most women somehow and men are actively choosing to have sex with them over female that does not engage with what we're talking about at all no it doesn't consider how could that possibly engage

Andrew Wilsonwith what we're asking which is how is it cope for a man to take that selection you say it's because given the opportunity if a man had that preexisting condition they would still go after the one that had

Kylademonstrate that okay the the way that I would demonstrate that is again the moment that you move the hypothetical into the real world instantly men suddenly swap their choice and they're lady boys they're a homosexuals

SPEAKER_00do that donated $200 Ty lady boys of boops and dicks you dumb what yeah I don't know are dumb

Kylaside not so this chatter just to be clear is and I don't think they've supported me through any I think it's dumb FU by the way yeah oh yeah are we not allowed to cuss I

Kylathought this is evidence to exactly what I'm talking about right that a lot of men at the end of the day when you put into a practical they're just going to pick how do you know that that was in support of you I think it was he said twice that he would always pick that he

Andrew Wilsonwould just have sex with Lady boys absolutely maybe he's gay maybe he's an actual homosexual do you think Andrew Tate is gay yeah I think that if you're a man who says that you would have sex with a man for any under any

Andrew Wilsoncircumstances you're homosexual you heard it here Andrew G if you're that I feel like if you're that defensive over it then then that means you must be a homosexual it's like I'm not a murderer if you're that defensive You're a

Kylamurderer that's insane that now that's cope that's actual I mean all of this is cope like when like there are some men by the way that are really into and I would grant that there are some men when they say oh they would pick

KylaHulk Hogan they probably would right I bet you that's you I'm not saying that you I have no idea about your Kings or preferences I'm just saying like that seems like a really big deal to you the issue is that most guys want to get some dick right that's all they really care about and they

Kyladon't mind if they're sticking in an an they don't really care that much as long as she's hard be into most guys don't care no no they don't find that to be completely physically revolting most

Alexaof them uh lady boy yeah you should talk to more men I've talked to lots of men about them I don't need to I can tell you I can tell you men who have gone to Thailand and have been tricked into

Kylathinking that they were women at first and then they Retreat sure but the reason that they're retreating is because they were looking for vagina specifically and they were lied to right that doesn't none of this has anything to do with the hypothetical I just said

Kylasome are being honest but a lot of men who answer this are just being copy because they're like I don't want to be gay and it's like it's literally more gay to be into Hulk oh you still haven't demonstrated it though you just

Andrew Wilsonsay no you haven't you just say I think that most men would that's my demonstration I think they would over FS your demonstration is literally just

Andrew Wilsonbeing like Oh I personally wouldn't so it's not that way andate is gay no the burden would be on the person who claims that hey wait a second the non-homosexual picks the non-homosexual

Andrew Wilsonsex this makes sense makes logical sense the person who says no the heterosexual would pick the homosexual sex because they have real pretty eyes that's the burden of proof let's back us up let's back us up what do you think sexual

Andrew Wilsonorientation has to do with do you think it's about like genitals the type of sex you want to have or like what you're attracted to what is it I think it could be a combination of tons of things and within within the confines of that exploration though I do think that

Andrew Wilsonthere's a revulsion factor which happens between most members of the same sex which repels them from having any type of intercourse with each other especially men when it comes to men

Andrew Wilsonhaving same-sex relations with each other what is the one thing men always talk about about going to prison that they're terrified of they're terrified of the rap but

Unknownbut why why fing hor because big bad word is horrible because because it's 10 times they even

SPEAKER_00they think it's 10 times more revolting it's not the victimization portion donated $200 hey dummy forcing that choice doesn't mean they prefer those masculine

SPEAKER_00features that's just how much better the p is true of course given any choice we would rather have a beautiful woman okay right but if we were if so if you force the bifurcated choice they choose

Andrew Wilsonyou say that's cope because you think that most men would do this and your only line of defense to say that is that some homosexual men have sex with Lady boys no that is not my only

SPEAKER_00defense Andrew W this trying to twist words the point is tady boys don't think they are actually female like trans women in the US say fkn brain dead okay oh sorry I thought this guy was

Kylasmart it turns out he's a okay I won't allow you to frame my arguments or tell me what my arguments are because you are being dishonest in the framing of no you're being dishonest you swapped the hypothetical and I

Kylawatched you SW hypothetical at all I did not swap the hypothetical at all there's no way you you just saying it over and over doesn't make it I can literally show you how you did this what you did

Andrew Wilsonwas you asked about a bifurcated Choice once it was demonstrated which of us would take that choice you then said the people who are attracted to secondary sex characteristics on one or the other

Andrew Wilsonthat's more or less homosexual the thing is though is that you did not add in anything about attraction only Which choice would you take right and part of the Which choice is which would you have sex with which to some degree we would

Kylaassume in there is some level of attraction just like you said levels of Attraction include things like your sexual orientation which genitals you would like to deal with what you're attracted to physically number of things

Kylalike this which is why I'm saying having sex with a vagina is more straight than having SE for men than having sex with like a dick obviously however being

Kylaattracted to body parts or selecting to have sex with secondary body parts that are of the opposite gender is just a little bit more gay obviously I see your

Kylaargument but again the question was if you had to choose between this genitalia or this genitalia which one would the genitalia that not stop stop that is not the question

Kylabecause it's just you being dishonest and reframing being attached to the question isn't whether you want to have sex with a dick or a the question

Kylais Hulk Hogan or Megan Fox which implies hyper masculinity and Hyper femininity which is part of Attraction C off the genitalia I'm not cutting off the genitalia I'm including them you guys

Kylaare trying to cut off the genitalia no they're trying to cut off their person they're trying to pretend it's only the genitalia we're attaching it to the no it's not the hypothetical is inherently not genitalia because why the would I say Hulk Hogan and Megan Fox if all I wanted to ask people about is whether

Andrew Wilsonthey prefer or dick then it's just still the same exact thing where you're saying that if a guy is with a really ugly woman because she's just really ugly yeah if she looks like look like if she looks like whatever your definition

Kylais of a man even though she's just an ugly woman right you're saying if a guy has sex with her he's gay you want me to wait until you're done sping that's that's what you're saying are you done sping I can explain again you're the one cutting me off

Kylafor the second time I'll explain again why what you just said small words sure I'll try using little kid words for if you can can you get a coloring book that would be great you got one in front of you get a purple pen yeah do you want to

Kylacolor my rope and then explain to me how that's not just an ugly woman Okay the reason why I didn't say what you just finished saying what did you even say now got that that's an

Kylaugly woman sneaky with this what that that's just an ugly woman no okay thank you thank you actually I appre apprciate that the reason why it's not just an ugly woman is because I already outlined that this is disanalogous and you're

Kylalumping in a larger group of people than I am talking about because not all women look like Hulk Hogan or have secondary sex characteristics my entire point is

Andrew Wilsonsecondary sex character so if I started including birds in this that wouldn't matter could category well could there be ugly women who look like Hulk Hogan well your points totally mute

Kyladip you oh you're let me walk you through categorical philosophy okay let's walk through it write me a P value premise for wait wait wait watch here's a

Kylapicture here's a picture of birds okay all sorts of Birds Go in this circle and inside of this circle is seagull okay

Kylaseag competition now you see that seagull so seagulls you could do canaries though they're much cuter okay actually that's not true seagulls are CU

Kylathat's a good one one in another Circle we have ugly women and then in a smaller circle

Andrew Wilsoninside the big circle is Hulk Hogan women and here we have just an ugly woman it's just an ugly woman how dare you draw me like that just an ugly woman

Andrew Wilsonhow dare you draw they exist and if a heterosexual man has sex one they're just a heterosexual man having sex know you're wrong you had to draw a portrait of me rather than dealing with categorical analysis because you know

Andrew Wilsonthat you're in well no I didn't say a very ugly one how like majority of ugly women don't have beards and chest hair they're just ugly yeah but it doesn't it wouldn't matter I didn't say her counter her

Andrew Wilsoncounter analysis is to say fre to call if her counter analysis is to just say no it's too far hey uh there are there are women who exist outside this group of ugly women who are other ugly women that wouldn't matter all that would

Andrew Wilsonmatter is that there's women stop talking so I can finish my point stop talking so I finish my point stop talking so I finish my point stoping stop sping stop sping stop sping is my

Kylaturn saying it'll be true stoping stop sping want to go because he's about to reframe my argument no I'm about to tell the truth is what I'm about to God okay so anyway and she's just going to repeat

Andrew Wilsonshe she'll repeat I promise she's going to repeat this exact same thing she's going to say stop tell me there's there's women who exist she's still sping sping he cannot be outlining my I can because

Andrew WilsonI'm doing it right now so anyway I am correct he does then we'll we'll call out so all you're doing all all she's doing is saying there's women who exist outside of the category there's women who exist outside or inside of the

Andrew Wilsoncategory I asked her Are there women who exist inside the category of ugly women who look like Hulk Hoban if the answer is yes you still haven't made a compelling argument as to how that's non-heterosexual sex or in any way even

Kylahomosexual I appreciate that you're trying to back it back up to the broader conversation and we can go there but I just want to make it super clear that you were being completely dishonest about my argument and you know that because you know you know categorical

Kylaphilosophy so I know that you know this when you said that when I'm saying that men who have sex with ugly women are gay you knew that you were engaging in a categorical fallacy because you know that not all ugly women look like Hulk

KylaHogan only people yes they do my claim is that out premise for me my my premise is that men who are having sex with Hulk Hogan women are more gay mhm that's my

Kylapremise so when you expand it to the broader categ I understand your argument but what's my argument I'm not done I'm not done my argument back that's your where you're that's the disconnect I'm not moving off of this until you yeah but I'm telling you I'm actually telling

Andrew Wilsonyou the structural problem here the structural problems you're confusing two things so my argument back to you though is to say no this is false inside of this category that's the disis yeah so

Andrew Wilsonyou're pointing at this and saying this is a category I'm denying that category exists I'm just saying that's just another ugly woman and some ugly women look like Hulk Hogan yeah wait you're

Kylaagreeing with me you're right I don't think some ugly women we use a circle for the poor chat some if this is ugly women some of them look like Hulk Hogan not all women who are ugly look like

KylaHulk hog so when you conflate my argument as saying Hulk Hogan are you did you are being fallacious about my argument and I need you to stop being from me to engage in good fa then go

Pixieahead and tell me expl I will explain it again if you would like modest hi thank you I have a side question hold on I will explain it one more time for the class I really I

Pixiereally want do you think men who have anal sex are gay like if I if a guy does anal to a woman you mean they're not gay but it makes them a little bit fruity

Pixieyeah they're not homosexuals no because they're into it into the gay so anal sex is not inherently gay but it's a woman's but it's a woman's do a man or a

Andrew Wilsonwoman homosexual that's an act it's not for me it's not an allocation from my worldview of logical possibility so everybody has different worldviews for what even starts with logical

Andrew Wilsonpossibility homosexuality is an act it's an act it's not even an attraction as you could be a person who's attracted the same sex never act on it you'd never be a homosexual know pretty gay if you

Edenwere attracted to men like what you could say you could say it's gay but what I'm saying a homosexual is but then you never act on it you're super gay for instance let's say that you had two gay animals okay two homosexual animals how

Edendo you know when they're homosexuals I mean but like talk if the animals could talk and be like I really want to other God really want to do this but they what I'm

Andrew Wilsonsaying is that it's an action homosexuality is an if you want to it's an action is not acting on it you're still you're still

Kylagay thoughts thoughts are treated as an action in all of Behavioral Science yes all of Behavioral psychology since Skinner we have treated thoughts as an action because we can train thoughts as much as you can train other things

Andrew Wilsonwhat's the subconscious that the subconscious like what do you mean specifically the ego I'm not talking about psychoanalysis if you're talking about the the ego or what you would call the subconscious or whatever these things are no I'm talking

Pixieabout you're talking about like Freudian I'm talking about what I'm asking is can you have thoughts that aren't even your own own thoughts uh by inherently yeah you can have so then

SPEAKER_00from my worldview black hair girls saying that a man would prioritize the extreme feminine presentation of a female genitalia conversely would he be more repulsed by the masculine extreme

Andrew Wilsonor the male genitalia that's a pretty good way of say any that's pretty good way of asking it the question becomes remember I explained to you long time ago in a debate about the concept from the Orthodox worldview of the leisi same

Andrew Wilsonthing in the Catholic world they don't call the they have a very similar thing which is that those bad sinful thoughts that come into your head they're not your own they're demonic thoughts and these are not things which

Andrew Wilsonyou would actionably do absent the fact that those were inserted into your brain so the reason that inside of Christianity we say listen you're not really a homosexual if not acting on the thoughts we're not even sure that

Kylathey're yours sure I guess my response to that would be uh what is it The Sermon on the Mount where Jesus or is it Sermon on the Mount where he says if you like if you think a hateful thought um you should like like if you Steal You

Andrew Wilsonshould cut think of stealing you should cut off your hand if you like lust after a woman you should pluck after your eyes so I guess I would just say that's actually referencing that though that's actually saying that can be S yeah it's saying that these thoughts which are introduced to you it's better to do

Edenanything except act on those thoughts can I ask something well last thing is hypothetical I think we just mentally dis so you're saying it's in your worldview you I thought you were like more Catholic that is part of that worldview no saying that if you think

Edenso you're saying if you think homosexual thoughts which you don't act on them that that that's not homosexual right but we're about attract you having attraction you also said if you have those attractions but you don't act on them that's is from my world I'm sorry I'm just trying to I just want to ask

Edenthis before I get my point so just make sure understanding it right if you have like gay attraction but you don't act on it that's you're not gay yeah but wouldn't those thoughts okay not to be too explicit but those thoughts might

Andrew Wilsongive you an erection and so if you look at men and you get an erection is that gay yeah so I'm just trying to explain to you that the thoughts which are introduced into your brain to act on these what we would consider sinful

Andrew Wilsonbehaviors that you're not supposed to do that's from the tradition she comes from and the tradition I come from okay so both in both of these Traditions these thoughts which are introduced into your

Andrew Wilsonbrain that in itself is not the simple almost done I'm super close right those thoughts which are introduced themselves are not sins it's your actions that them sense but I guess there's a difference between like an

Andrew Wilsonintrusive thought that like can just randomly come and does not have like any say over what you actually feel and then like genuine attraction right so the question BEC the question of that point if you have a b resp question which are

Andrew Wilsonwhich so which ones are thoughts which are introduced absent you and which ones come from you that's a much tougher question and so in my tradition we say most of the thoughts that go into your

Pixiehead are probably not yours most of them are probably demonic thoughts yeah but no if you're having a bodily reaction like that's where it becomes something gay right it's like if you're what is it

Andrew Wilsonso if it gives you Direction still have a reaction based on those thoughts the introduction of thoughts and have a physiological response and still never act on those things so we have to be cautious so you're saying if a guy gets

Pixiea heart on because he sees another hot dude and wants to him but never does he's not gay I'm asking you this question I'm asking you from my from my viewpoint I'm saying that's really gay

Andrew Wilsonfrom my from and I'm answering you my answer would be no but here's why from my tradition we're saying the thoughts introduced into the brain there are thoughts introduced into the brain which

Andrew Wilsonare demonic thoughts and those thoughts can have all sort they can put pictures in your head of all sorts of lustful things they can put pictures in your head of all sorts of attractions you may not have this is all Christian

Andrew WilsonTraditions have this except maybe some Protestant ones including Kyla who says she's more involved with Catholics she has to kind of concede that this is also true it's no longer a thought when you have B re don't have to concede to the

Kylaextent that you're trying to use it for example I don't think any person in Christianity or secular World actually believes that if a dude like say sorry I won't use Brian say a guy named Tom

Kylaevery time he sees a guy that that he's kind of into he gets really attracted he thinks about men a lot and maybe he never masturbates to it ever every single person would say that he has a gay sexual orientation every single

Andrew Wilsonperson let me ask you hang ask this let me ask this let me ask this cath is that a sin from Catholicism standpoint to act in homosexual whether he has a sexual orientation or is doing a sin are not right but don't don't the Catholics say

Andrew Wilsonthat the reason there's a distinction is because it's possible that the Demonic is influencing him and him not acting on it is him acting away from sin K it's possible but it's also possible and a lot of Catholics would agree the pope would agree this that people can have a

KylaPR election to be gay and in the Catholic World they would say by not acting on your sexual orientation you're not engaging in sin cathol Trad the Catholic tradition is to say if you're not their the whole point of their

Andrew Wilsontradition for treatment for homosexuality is to say this is a sin you're not supposed to do this and then they try to steer you away from the sin they claim that the sin comes from the enemy the thoughts for the sin come from

Andrew Wilsonthe enemy not from you and we know that it's not coming from you because you're trying to get away from it that's why you're going to the church so these are introductions into your brain of demonic thoughts you're not acting on you still

Unknownjust want them to be G no matter what this is your worldview I telling you that's the Catholic tradition wait Alexa you want to come in Alexa goad I'm going to be very careful about the words I

Alexachoose on this there are instances where things happen to someone of force I'm going to say and your body has a natural reaction in those situations did that person want it absolutely not I would

Kylaargue that they didn't okay and I'm I'm trying to not use I know what you're I just I'm not connecting why you would talk about orgasmic during no no I'm saying so there's a physical bodily reaction are you saying that that person

Alexawanted it he's saying you're saying that if someone's body naturally about the body Dre I'm saying that person is baked into this baked into would you agree that there's a really big

Kyladifference between being graped and then having a sexual response versus having constant repeated thought sexual to during grap you're actually being

Pixietouched there's a physical stimulation happening to you also big big in wait tou please let me finish baked into this baked into what we were talking about we

Pixiehave explicitly stated the guy is attracted to other men gets hard because of other men but never actually has sex with other men y Andrew was saying that's not gay don't on the table that

Pixieall of us we were saying no that's gay if you're attracted um you get hard on it you want it but you don't act on it you're still gay obviously everyone would agree that if you're attracted to

Brian Atlasnew topic and we're going to W up very soon we're going to W up very soon uh I think we every time we transition topics I think we need Nala to just drop a ooo

Brian Atlasor something are you guys like sick of it yet or no he definitely I you know what I would like to hear an oooo from everybody do it

Kylaonly if you do it I'll do it too I'll do it to no no you guys go this is the poison cup okay I'll drink after you drink but

Brian AtlasI'll do it oh I am secure in my masculinity I'm glad so I am comfortable saying an I'll do an oooo with the face expression I

Brian Atlascan't do that no full if you want us to put our chest into it you have I think it was just for do it with more is yours bro it's going to happen good do I have to now do be a

Kikideep or can it be does have to be high you have to Comm to the it has to be your yeah e that was so good that was actually great all right you have to make Andrew

Brian Atlasdo it though when he comes back you can't that might be a tough cell it might be a tough cell I'll try my best you're a professional debater okay I'll I'll try my best I'll see what I can do I'll pull some

SPEAKER_04strings Kyla go ahead you will love it slay no I feel embarrassed

SPEAKER_04okay got to see my yeah okay fix the hair not even you got this you got

SPEAKER_04this got to put it in my soul do it I'm so nervous this is going to be on

SPEAKER_04the internet forever um among among many other things not start that not start

Nalathat wait we missed it we missed it we missed it sorry do it again so many great things happen he's making us all oooo he did it too I'm not going to

Brian AtlasO have to go ahead you say it in your own voice e oh my God I'm going to pretend like you didn't

Brian Atlasjust make my dick go soft that wasn't me that that was I go ahead I'm respectfully what no hello said respectfully why just curious why not I'm just it's

Brian Atlasjust not my thing it's not your thing yeah bankrupting men is your thing we have wait can you at least pull the microphone closer and tilt it up and

Brian Atlascloser to you and actually speak into it and yeah Mercy uh go ahead gosh okay let me try this wait I I don't know if I can do the the microphone

Brian Atlascloser right who that's good that's a surprise was surprisingly good good I am

Andrew Wilsonimpressed she's practiced she's for sure done it before oh yeah please if she concedes that men are

Andrew Wilsonstronger than women will you do it no okay this is that's too much feminine energy I'm not W can you do a masculine oooo like a deep voice

SPEAKER_00like testosterone do you know the Marine for Ura it's it's not that J Brown donated $100 not that away no man cares what of girls

SPEAKER_00think on dating topics please get regular woman on here tonight's questions and discussions are pointless I am losing brain cells I'm better off

Unknownwatching dumb and dummer dum and dum is a classic ins cool topics like twice already Saucy topic L if you don't like it why you give them money but also

Brian AtlasB you are financing this there you have it my hate Watchers never pay me so you got something good

Brian Atlasgoing on I guess so uh wait where were we uh o with Andrew oooing with Andrew yeah I don't think sorry guys I'm just

Alexafixing the TPS lower I spoiled all the fun I know uh well let's try to wrap up here pretty soon I I did do sound like

Alexahe did I did so good on going to do it again Andrew I will do an ooo again uhuh if you do an

Brian Atlasaigal I don't think he can do that okay you first whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

Brian Atlasa I want let's this this is a legally binding contract andb if you breach said contract do you agree to pay me an

Andrew Wilsonamount of $10,000 should you choose to not do the aiga man that's see this this sus here let's actually draft I'm going to draft upang this sucks because I was just going to

Andrew Wilsonlean into the mic and say I lied and make you do it again but now now we've gotten way too far into it the whole joke is wrecked and there you go I think it would still be funny oh yeah no it it would definitely still be funny you can

Brian Atlaskeep the picture of the ugly woman of me I think this is a beautiful woman so that's good I before we wrap up before we wrap up maybe we can try to bring

Brian Atlasthis back a little bit to dating so does anybody have anything sorry sorry dating dating related that they would like to get off their chest before we wrap up the show anybody anything from maybe men

Nalaare pissing you off in some way it's frustrating out there in the dating world I love men anything I feel like I learned so much from men like all of my mentors are men my business partner my Sensei um I feel like I learn a great

Naladeal from men um honestly I find that it's harder to learn things from women just for me personally I don't look up to a lot of women um just doing what I

Nalado and creating the space that I did for myself I don't really look up to many women um at all so I mean there are

Nalawomen that I I don't know why I don't have girlfriend it's like guys I just kind of yeah like it's not even about

Alexasex or dating like I just I love men okay good times anybody else I'd say two things I going off of that I think it's and I'm curious to know your

Alexaguys' stance on this of like I find it very sad but like if you look into like social media or you know celebrities and this there are not very good role models for dating or people to say like that is

Alexaa relationship I want to strive towards and I think for a lot of women when they're younger yeah it's easier to go to O it's easier to do these things because you're like I there's not kind of you you you get burned basically and

Alexayou just say me let's do this I'd rather make money and if I'm going to be sad and single might as well be rich and single better be at the top than the bottom exactly and I think I do think it's sad though that there's not a lot

Andrew Wilsonof good role models to follow from my after a few days of this I realized something important I actually tweeted it out which is that if my wife died tomorrow I definitely would

Andrew Wilsonnever date again ever never I would live the rest of my life in solitary and be fine with it i' be fine with what's that what about PornHub what

Andrew Wilsonabout it like would you engage good chran but that's not a relationship okay yeah yeah I would I would just I would be done I that's like

Andrew WilsonI can't I I don't even understand it like I I can't believe that the the level of selfishness and degeneracy is like isn't watching porn like a pretty

Edenequal sin to like being gay or something wait what I mean cuz you said you would I don't know if I Mard him he said you'd watch PornHub but isn't that said no oh he said no okay I got so confused never

Brian Atlasmind I take everything back I was like really Let's do let's do this if any of you guys in the next couple minutes think of anything that you know uh dating related you'd like to uh discuss I'm going to do some chats if

Brian Atlasyou guys want to think about that so we have infinite Singularity Brian and Alexa are like peanut butter and jelly individually great but together they're a match made in YouTube heaven a I love

Brian Atlasthat thank you okay infinite Singularity thank you um the problem is I'm allergic to peanut butter so I can can be jelly is in a

Nalasituationship wait what aren't you no didn't you allude to Something in the beginning how you didn't want to talk about something huh yeah no sit you didn't want to talk about wait what

Brian Atlassingle you would have just said I'm single but I don't think you are no I just don't private if I was single I wouldn't privately I don't disclose anything just cuz cuz uh I uh I how do I I just wouldn't disclose if I was single

Brian AtlasI wouldn't disclose if I was in a relationship no either way I would not disclose just for security reasons so I ask you guys respect that but okay so listen it's been like all the times I've

Andrew Wilsonbeen on this show and I've tried to use context clues and this and that what the is a situationship oh it's like not a relationship but you're kind of seeing someone and talking to

Alexasomeone degeneracy so basically problem with younger Generations that you don't have to deal with in dating is people become intimate with one another and they have

Alexaall the connections of a relationship without the title and their obligations it's not just in all honesty older people that are in a situation but but I'm just saying it's it's more for younger generations of

Unknownlike when it came about I why but we just don't titles situation I love titles I do too but it's like people don't want that people want the freedom do what they want without the title if they want the freedom they can go be

Brian Atlasfree over there here might be here might be an example of a situationship two people have been uh dating hooking up having sex for a period of 3 months they've never had an overt conversation about exclusivity they haven't had a

Salemconversation of whether they're boyfriend or girlfriend they would be in a situ exclusive like if someone were to go hook up with someone else they would get mad but could because Tech yeah but

Brian Atlasthen you know that's what makes it a situation we also have another chat here from infinite's right that that I would just call it degeneracy I know infinite Singularity Brian plus Alexa

AlexaYouTube uh where are you taking me on our first Daye uh down the street I don't know if anything around are you paying cuz well we already that what know you said 50-50s that's how we're

Brian Atlasgoing so finessed okay um Alan VAR gosi Alex Canadian an Andrew fan Canadian 200 by the way are do you speak French no cuz

Brian Atlasyou're not French or you're not in the toron was it Montreal I'm not Tor I'm from Alberta I'm from like Texas of Canada I see okay well Mery buku for the Canadian 200 audite thinks she can

Brian Atlasoutsmart Andrew but he is far superior in his arguments and thoughts she falls in all her arguments and Andrew has consistently demolished aites arguments in many of their previous

Kylathis has got to be like this is like the classic FBI like basement dwelling mouth breather like statements that like so often like not all of your communities like this but there's so many in your community that it's just like as long as I keep saying that this person's stupid

Andrew Wilsonand wrong it'll be true and I know why are you psychoanalyzing me it's not like your your community who's just like more degeneracy and gay sex and we'll be happy not my that's my community yeah my

Brian Atlascommunity is pretty heterogenous but okay we have Jeremy here I'm allowed to think about hurting someone really bad but that does not mean I am a murderer the girl in the black hair can think she

Brian Atlasis smart but that does not mean she is redhair girl spit in my mouth yes sir number one she will if you pay enough okay I I'll just do it for free man are

Kylayou kidding I Dr all the time I'm sorry you're just stupid if you think about hurting people really bad all the time we wouldn't call you a murderer but we might call you a psychopath are you deranged I so tired of low

Andrew WilsonIQ Chatters Jesus IIT smart okay sorry but they make you money I don't even understand that argument though if if people have

Andrew Wilsonthoughts if they have like U even even homicidal things like this they never act out on them and they never even discuss them right in all other ways they're

Salemfunctional think about hurting yourself all the time then you're you might be depressed or suicidal obviously you're not acting towards it but if you're thinking all the time something is obviously wrong with you you're depressed you're sad something right guy

Kylathinks about stabbing women in the eyes all the time and he gets hard where he sees like organs and stuff like that yeah he's not necessarily a murderer at that point but he's a psychop like you're just always kind of putting extra on what's being said sure I'm

Kylabeing hyperbolic but what I'm saying is that we can label psychological states that don't require actions which is why sexual orientation is a labeled psychological State regardless of action and action can be labeled separately two

Andrew Wilsonwhen I'm playing Grand Theft Auto 5 I'm having homicidal thoughts every 15 seconds am I a psychopath yes no am I a psychopath like when I shank her when she's down and I take my money back right is that is that me being a

Andrew Wilsonpsychopath but if there's if there's a degree to which it's like happening all the time you're visualizing it with other people you're getting like horny about it all no I I'll like I'll have friends in the game like in Red Dead Redemption I'll have like five

Andrew Wilsonfriends we grab we'll grab a rope we'll drag a woman across into the railroad each other am I a homicidal you want to do that no but I mean my point

Kylais is that you can have the whole the whole point is that context matters for defining psychological States obviously right like just because you're watching an video this is like the argument like old Christians tried to

Kylause to like get rid of video games and stuff like the reality is that seems like your brain can tell the difference between a Grand Theft Auto granny that you're like being like running over versus a real your brain can detect things which you have which could be

Kylafantasy and in no way actually or something that you would do in reality like even homicidal thoughts but in the case of homicidal thoughts you're right you never acted out and you might not be a murderer but you might have homicidal thoughts all the time and low empathy

Andrew Wilsonand you might be labeled as a but you could also according to this same analogy have homicidal thoughts all the time never acting out because you understand that they're just fantasy and you don't care tell you welcome to like Psychology 101 yeah sometimes but then

Kyladon't call the comment low IQ when it clearly wasn't didn't seem to be got to the same point the comment are got to we didn't get to the same point the entire point is the context around the situation right if you're dreaming about

Kylamurder muring people just all the time you might be labeled as a psychopath if you're playing GTA there's obviously context queuing the types of thoughts these are clearly different situations and any good psychology person with a

Andrew Wilsonbasic modom of understanding can understand how context matters superal and what the super chatter said was I can have homicidal thoughts and not be a murderer you said that that's low IQ even though it's clearly true and he

Kylajust admitted it the reason why it's low IQ times Row the reason why it's low IQ is he's trying to equate it to the same 14 the reason why it's low IQ is he's trying to make that analogous to the argument that you can have homosexual

Kyladesires all the time and not be a homosexual person Mur I'm just telling you that's by your tradition the Catholic tradition that's totally real so and right now is admitting that a man can

Andrew Wilsonhave constant homosexual thoughts all the time get hard to men but as long as he doesn't have sex don't worry you're not what I'm saying is that you can have thoughts which are not your own which are introduced by the Demonic and that you don't have to act on those

Edenthoughts and it happens all the like okay like being a murderer is obviously not something we correlate to your thoughts but like your attraction and sexuality is something we like clearly tie to our thoughts like you can know you're attracted to a celebrity

Edenwithout ever them or ever seeing them in person like your sexual attraction is very directly correlated to your thoughts but being a murderer is clearly like yes your thoughts matter but the action of being a murderer has nothing to do with your thoughts like

Salemyou could be a virgin but know your sexuality no no no but what she's also saying is like a lot goes into being a murderer a lot goes into H like Behavior a lot goes into having sex with if you're dude I'm guessing I understand that and that's I'm not agreeing with

Brian Atlaseither just trying to explain what she's saying and you know what I let's go back to dating I was about to say anybody did anybody have any any last thing they wanted to touch on on dating dating's rough you know what though I didn't want to I did want to ask a question though

Salembecause I want to go back to what I said like from before when I was when you asked me if I was single and I told you that um like we had been on and correct

Salemand what I had meant by that is like you know on and off for me is also like when you when I argue with let's say my man at the time and we argue and we're like

Salemokay I'm done we're like we're done that's kind of on and off to me like if I go home and I said we're done and then like the next day you know we got back together that's on and off correct yes

Salemyou woke up and then you got em even if it wasn't like a consensual like way like yes we sat down we broke up like yeah okay but like for me if it was like

Salemokay I said we're done i' like literally I broke up with you and I went home and then maybe two days later I got like I went back to you that's on and off correct yeah I don't think I don't think most people like treat it that way but I

Caitlyndon't know these LS don't matter cuz you're ending it at the end of the day whether or not it's a like a whole conversation whether or not it happens related to this kind of related to this

Brian Atlaswhat's that that famous Trope from friends were they oh we were on a break were they on a break were they on a break break breaks I maybe people here

Kikihaven't seen friends but I haven't you need to watch that show girl great show I don't know I don't what do you guys think about breaks about breaks like in a relationship you're a break you're

Kikidone over you're just and you're done like you don't need to break in relationship like it's like okay wait wait but can I give you an example though honestly yes and no because you want to cheat without Che I don't think you're G to change my mind

Salemabout this because I've been through this and then I always never end up with them listen I feel the same exact way I feel the same exact way but I also think that there is slight circumstances when

Salemtwo people can really be going through their own and really be going through separate things that are affecting the relationship and they really need to take time apart to figure

Salemout their own and see if if this can be resolved to get back into the relationship and see if it who does takes a break I heal if you're in a healthy relationship or like if you

Salemreally really love the person if you and your boyfriend both love each other and you really do want to take a break to work on yourselves individually and then get back together then I think that's

Kylacorrect but in a lot a lot of times aak is aak you should still stay committed if it's genu I did almost an entire year separation from my has been actually like 4 years into our relationship uh so

Kylawe didn't do a break because yeah um it was the best thing we've ever done for a relationship but to be clear it wasn't a break it was not a break like we weren't seeing other people at all yeah and it was one and it was like 7 months long

Kylacuz if you're going to in my mind if you're going to take a break take a break like figure out what it is a break is not breaking up it's taking time apart to you know deal with your I think what it really is is you

Kylahave to look at the relationship and go every single toxic pattern that I bring to this relationship will repeat in every single relationship I have from here so if I want to work it out with this person or any person in the future

KylaI have to figure out my stuff first which is what my husband and I did and this is why like our relationship has never been healthier since we came back from the separation like it's just it's

Kylalike we're just I don't I don't even know I can't even put words to it we're just so happy but I would agree that like 85% of couples that take a break don't work out because it's like a toxic clingy thing now it's like you're

Nalaworried about them instead of worrying about yourself and and then you're like well I don't want them to sleep with anyone else so we should just keep sleeping together if you're worried about sleeping with anyone else while you're on a break then that obviously should be number one red flag I just

Salemthink you're broken up then if you're starting to see someone else you're done like it's break if you're taking a break and you're not seeing anyone else and you're seriously going to work on your relationship your individual I've never heard of one though CU usually when

Alexapeople say like well here's the thing too most people that go on breaks want to see if there's something better out there and if there's not then they come back and they're like okay like yeah it's like breaking up without the commitment like I want to go see if I like someone else

Salemmore and if I don't come back I kind of want to pursue something at the moment because this we can all agree that it's not like that 100% of the time it might be 85 or 99% of the time but a lot of like a little bit of the time it's

Kylaactually real like a lot of couples do go through breaks and come back better don't make me deal with that cheeseburger make me don't make me deal with Jeremy he's such a holy how much money has Jeremy sent

Brian Atlasspeaking of that Jeremy human thoughts don't necessarily reflect Identity or intentions people often have spontaneous sometimes disturbing thoughts that don't align with their values in cognitive behavioral therapy thoughts are seen as

Kylaseparate from truths or actions thinking I think Jeremy's a homosexual thinking neg requires maybe wreck I think it might have been a typ thoughts aren't seen as separate from truths no

Andrew Wilsonabsolutely seen his actions and behav yeah but that's not my question my question was are they seen separate as from truths cognitive behavioral therapy doesn't really get into truths in general which is why I know that this

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SPEAKER_00gross W overall panel Andrew W since rr2 is best no one remembers number two girl's name but her cup needs to

SPEAKER_00seriously reconsider ladies please don't get plastic surgery is gross you're gross again if I'm having sex with him he's just not a cuck so I I agree with

Kylahis last part gross I uh I'm a natural body supremacist I think I've heard you talk about this you're kind of like the actual Rarity on this cuz you would say like Jennifer Aniston for example

Brian Atlasobviously she's old now but You' say she's like not very attractive to you cuz she's had like half a million dollars put into her face I suppose I suppose it's possible that somebody could have plastic surgery and I could still find them attractive really mild

Brian Atlassmall amounts you're just like natural now no it's it's more so I could still find someone attractive whether they've had plastic surgery or not but would I prefer them to have not had the plastic

Brian Atlassurgery yes okay also I think it's incredibly I think it's incredibly I think it's incredibly this is perhaps one of my Fe

Brian Atlasrare feminist positions uh I think it's incredibly damaging to women that uh there you know there's certain beauty standards and you've got the Kardashians and that's that's basically

Brian Atlasbrainwashed and rotted the brains of vast swads of women to feel compelled to get these dangerous and expensive and frankly unnecessary cosmetic surgeries

Kylaso yeah that's fair okay and uh do you prefer girls with like less makeup as well like yes no makeup yes I appreciate that no makeup or less makeup um and uh it's very wholesome yeah it is

Kylayeah sorry I'm not trying to say you're cute I'm so sorry I'm literally not saying no like for example I say this all the time like it's just like kind of demasculate for a lot of guys

Kylabe that's cute though that's we would women ter of end like I think women would appreciate that but I think like a lot of men prefer to be like feel respected and like valued right so if

Brian Atlasyou're being like oh you're so cute respect I'm not tripping about any of that but I mean just when it comes to the plastic surgery like uh I and I think a lot of men would actually agree

Brian Atlaswith me it's not clear to me that the majority of men find plastic surgery particularly appealing or attractive and then I do think it can also it can be

Brian Atlasproxy for potentially uh unappealing personality traits um but for example I would much prefer a woman let's say she

Brian Atlashad absolutely no boobs just totally flat I would prefer her with a flat chest than just big fake tits if they were small and natural looking fake tits like the have you heard of like the

Kylagummy bear fake tits crazy okay they're great you cannot tell when put you can still you can still tell I think not the gummy bears the only way you can tell is when you put the flashlight under the tit which

Kylais I've never tried that I mean I would still prefer I've never seen someone do that I don't know I don't know if F tits but apparently if go at that you can the light I know I was about to say I'm a

Brian Atlasit's not even it's not even so much I know I just need to see something real fast it's not even so much about the size really but I mean I would prefer a woman who let's say she was totally flat or maybe her boob sagged a little bit I

Salemwould prefer that than a girl who had these perfectly perky faked hits not everyone is like you though yeah I was going to say I would argue most men as a

Salemskinny ass girl I feel okay and in the industry I feel like ever since I joined the industry I used to be like so happy about my body I used to love my body

Brian Atlaslike before or after before I joined the industry once I joined the industry I have never felt more insecure about my body well because your your your nudity is on the table that it's not about the

Salemmoney it's just like seeing all the girls in porn and like if you like look up if you literally just click on the porn page you don't see anyone like me when you go to conventions for the industry you don't see a lot of girls like me when you see all my

Salemphotographers Instagrams that shoot girls that in the industry they never post the pictures of the skinny girls the ones with no boobs no ass they're

Salemposting the girls that have curves big tits and I get that not obviously a lot of people like natural but it's a reality that this industry and you know

Kylathis generation you know but could you argue it's romanticizes you know why is Jette Michelle like one of the top 10 only

Kylafans content I have no idea B Jo mom is who the is that guy is it a guy lady she's a lady okay bad meme um she

Kylahas the most egregious proportions I've ever seen she does she's done like facts transpant like 18 times she's boobs are like this big what's what's her name Janette Michelle and she's like one of

Kylathe top 10 only fans cont characters another top one is black China against that's just none of that's real oh yeah if you look at a lot of the top 10 there's a couple of like celebrities more natural looking but most of them

Salemare like hyper plastic and it's not that a lot of natural girls aren't dominating in the industry that's not what I'm talking about it's just if you really look at the reality if you if you were

Brian Atlasto say think of like five you know but I'm not talking about okay we're talking we're talking about different things like because I'm talking about like what but but I I'm willing to admit that

Brian Atlasprobably if you have fake breasts you have nice fake breasts that that would perhaps give you some competitive Advantage when it comes to would it could it be the case that men are more

Brian Atlaslikely to purchase your only fans if you have fake breasts could you be a bit more eye-catching with fake breasts in that context yes but in terms of a woman that I'm looking to date or have a

Brian Atlasrelationship and speaking I'd speak broadly here I think most men frankly don't really prefer women with plastic surgery I'm not saying that there of course

Salemthere's men who are attracted to women you you have no idea how many guys that I've actually liked have come up to me and literally said I just don't think I can be with you cuz you don't have what I want you don't have ass you

Salemhave I mean look I guess people are entitled to their preferences when it comes to that but and especially it's it's cuz you never know what a person like I I've never been this skinny in my life I used to have really big tits

Salemreally big whatever right I have health issues so it's just like people are very insensitive and and obviously Society now with what you guys were saying like like Kim Kardashian and like all the

Salemrole models that are in the society now in this generation it's just it sucks that that is what the norm is and what you you know yeah and I can add a little bit to it so I mean in your case you don't you don't currently have plastic

Brian Atlassurgery no are you cons have you considered getting fake breast yes okay uh I mean my advice to you would be don't do it yeah well don't do it um I

Brian Atlasthink you're beautiful as you are without the need to undergo dous in the necessary surgery um and uh and I actually have a somewhat hot take on this but just to expand on my previous

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