She BANKRUPTS Men?! Women STRONGER?! Debate GOD Andrew Wilson! Ahegao Queen Nala! | Dating Talk #123

Date: 2023-12-01
Duration: 7h 06m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_01Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_03Eden(guest)
SPEAKER_05Caitlyn(guest)
SPEAKER_06Salem(guest)
SPEAKER_07Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Kyla(guest)
SPEAKER_10Nala(guest)
SPEAKER_13Alexa(guest)
SPEAKER_14Pixie(guest)

Key Moments

00:02:42
QuoteNala Ray introduces herself as the 'Ahegao Queen', 25yo, lives in the valley, OnlyFans.

hi I'm Nala the AO queen I am 25 years old I literally live in the valley right now in California and I'm on only fans

01:58:00
QuoteNala reveals she had a kink for cheating but clarifies it was in unhealthy relationships, and that in a healthy relationship she would not cheat.

I haven't helped anyone cheat recently or even in at least the last year

02:07:00
Key MomentAndrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans 'until she cleaned up her life.'

I would not be participating with her or allow her in my life it's probably EAS that why is that awful

02:07:36
QuoteBrian reveals Nala earns nearly $150,000/month from OnlyFans.

I went from being a pastor's daughter to millionaire only fans model and make nearly $150,000 a month

02:15:00
Key MomentKyla (NotSoErudite) invokes the Prodigal Son parable against Andrew's disowning position.

the father allowed him to live out the consequences of that but the father didn't dis him

02:31:00
QuoteNala confirms she could have retired a year before this episode.

I could have retired a year ago

02:40:00
QuoteSalem reveals she has had ~30 sugar daddies/pay pigs, with 7 sending over $100k each.

not too many probably only like seven

04:00:00
ControversyAndrew Wilson calls Pixie 'not worth debating' over her refusal to concede men are stronger than women.

if you're so stupid you don't understand men are stronger than women you're not worth debating

04:05:00
QuotePixie finally concedes men are stronger than women after Kyla presents a meta-analysis framework.

based on the information that I've gained from this episode I'm going to say yes the men would be stronger than women

04:14:00
QuoteCaitlyn admits to physically striking her ex-boyfriend multiple times during arguments at age ~16.

I would just have a physical reaction

06:17:00
QuoteNala says she collaborated with YouTube prankster Vitaly on an OnlyFans video and deeply regrets it.

it was the worst thing I've ever done in my life I wish I could take it back

07:03:00
QuoteEden reveals a body count of approximately 50-70, mostly condensed into a few months at age 19.

it's definitely under 70 maybe 60 maybe 6 like it's up

Topics Discussed

00:00:09
Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show; guests introduce themselves: Nala Ray, Kyla/NotSoErudite, Pixie, Caitlyn, Eden, Salem, Alexa, Andrew Wilson.

00:07:00
Relationship Status & Dating History

Each guest shares relationship status, longest relationship, recent situationships. Includes Caitlyn's ex passing on Thanksgiving, Nala's 2-year single streak, Salem's 30+ on-off breakup situation, Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment, Kyla's 6-year marriage.

01:30:00
OnlyFans: Finances, Family Reactions, Career Plans

Discussion of OF earnings, family knowledge and reactions. Nala's $150k/month, ability to retire. Salem's sugar daddies (~30 total, >$700k combined). Nala's pastor father accepts her. Eden's Catholic Filipina mom. Kyla's Muslim family risk. Whether OF is a career or stepping stone.

01:36:00
Pastor's Daughter to OnlyFans (Nala's Story)

Nala's background as a pastor's daughter. Felt caged by church modesty standards. Left at 18. Pursued OnlyFans for financial freedom and self-expression. Invests and supports family.

02:00:00
Parenting, Disowning, and Enabling Adult Children

Andrew Wilson states he would disown an adult daughter doing OnlyFans until she 'cleaned up.' Debate on Christian parenting, the Prodigal Son parable, parental love vs. enabling. Nala, Eden, Kyla present counter-arguments.

02:21:40
Monogamy, Polyamory, and Relationship Structures

Eden discusses non-monogamy, having had two boyfriends simultaneously (cuck dynamic). Debate on whether monogamy is natural. Kyla's marriage separation. Salem's on-off relationship patterns.

02:43:00
Sugar Babies, Pay Pigs, and Wealth Extraction

Salem discusses ~30 sugar daddy/pay pig relationships, individual payments up to $30k, multiple men sending over $100k total. Explains pay pig dynamics. Plans to quit OF when moving to Dubai.

03:00:00
Physical Strength: Men vs. Women

Brian revisits debate from previous episode with Pixie. Pixie resists conceding men are physically stronger. Panel cites grip strength studies, deadlift records, high-school boys vs. female Olympians. Pixie eventually concedes based on meta-analysis framing by Kyla. Andrew Wilson frustrated by Pixie's position.

03:11:40
Dating App Culture and 50 Dates/50 Days

Alexa's 50-dates-in-50-days experiment: met first serious boyfriend on date 14, second on date 23. Brian's reaction: would leave a date if she had 7 more lined up. Panel debates whether simultaneous multi-dating is ethical.

04:30:00
Feminism, Oppression, Patriarchy

Survey of feminist positions on the panel. Debate on patriarchy, systemic oppression of women in the US, sexual harassment in STEM. Whether you can be racist against white people or sexist against men. Andrew Wilson challenges systemic racism definitions.

05:00:00
Racism, Sexism, and Definitions

Can you be racist against white people? Can you be sexist against men? Panel votes; debate on power+prejudice definition vs. simple prejudice. Andrew Wilson's logic about Asian vs. Black racism. Pixie's struggle to apply framework consistently.

05:20:00
Trans Women, Sexuality, and the 'Gay' Hypothetical

Extended debate: is it gay to perform oral on a trans woman? Megan Fox vs. Hulk Hogan hypothetical. What determines sexual orientation — genitalia, secondary sex characteristics, or attraction. Kyla and Andrew's prolonged categorical argument.

05:30:00
American Civil War and Slavery

Brief debate: Andrew Wilson says he would have sided with the Confederacy for sovereignty reasons (not slavery). Caitlyn and Kyla argue every seceding state's declaration mentioned slavery.

06:26:20
Plastic Surgery and Body Standards

Brian argues against plastic surgery; prefers natural bodies. Salem discusses insecurity from being in the OF industry (skinny body not featured). Kyla cites studies showing small amounts of plastic surgery can reduce psychiatric illness rates. Salem considering moving to Europe for natural beauty standards.

07:01:00
Body Count Round

End-of-show body count round. Nala: doesn't count. Eden: ~50-70. Alexa: can count on one hand. Andrew Wilson: more than one hand but wife is watching. Salem: declined to answer. Kyla/NotSoErudite: 1 (husband only). Pixie: not stated.

Transcript

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Nalathemselves so please tell us your name age occupation and also uh where you're from your location go ahead hi I'm Nala the AO queen I am 25 years old I literally live in the valley right now
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Nalain California and I'm on only fans I also do martial arts boxing and weapons training okay uh the San Fernando Valley correct or no
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SPEAKER_00oh wait like I thought you said you live in the valley yeah kind of like terana area oh okay oh okay already bore xcore donated
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SPEAKER_00$200 no just when you thought you were going to get peace Nala not on my watch you will never find L as you come let let him speak let him speak
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Kylayour value equates to a stale soggy Black and Mild no not the black thanks Daddy wow there's 100% chance that guy's also
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Brian Atlassub to your only fans most likely most likely you want your iPhone case maybe turn it towards the camera so uh do you like it okay there you go bad ZX um thanks
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Nalafor the comment all right um You said you do martial arts what uh like Brazilian jiujitsu um Jiu-Jitsu not Brazilian jiu-jitsu but Jiu-Jitsu more
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Nalais like taking people to the ground I like taekwondo I really like Wing ta ho ho I'm kidding I'm kidding sorry that was a ter no it's not that was a terrible joke okay um but just multiple
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SPEAKER_00forms I think it's important to know multiple forms of martial arts okay very oh wow okay they're already stated $200 ladies your past does not dictate your future through the Andrew married a
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SPEAKER_00feminist minded Elder baby mama with a high body count and two kids by her ex-boyfriend this proves there is hope for 304s everywhere looks like they have
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Andrew Wilsonsmoke for everybody tonight so let let me let me respond we haven't even introduced by kind of letting you know that you're probably a rampant homosexual and I have no respect for you
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Brian Atlaswhatsoever so just letting you know and none of that's true by the way so just letting you know that too I didn't believe it okay good talk um wow all
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Kylaright um off to a great start here um this going be fun Okay so so uh what about you uh yeah my name is kylo I go by NATO
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Kylaaidite online I a progressive liberal who's radical in all the right places
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Pixiedid you say age 29 oh 29 okay gotcha what about you hi I'm pixie I'm 24 um I'm a progressive streamer and I'm also
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Caitlyna partnership coordinator with PB so that's what I'm currently doing what about you hi I'm Caitlyn I'm 19 I'm from Jacksonville North
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CaitlynCarolina um I'm a progressive leftist radical as well or pretty radical I would like to say um okay rad yeah very
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Brian Atlasa little maybe a not too crazy all right radical writing that down okay what about you um my name is Eden diabetic
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Brian Atlascoochie uh okay diabetic cooch so you're a my new only fans you oh and but you have diabetes okay um is it type one
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Brian Atlastype two or type one people usually don't know so okay got it uh age I'm 22
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Salem22 okay gotcha and uh all right what about you hi I'm Salem lyx and uh I'm 20
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Alexayears old I a model and I do only fans all right welcome what about you hi I'm Alexa I'm 27 I'm from Silicon Valley and
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AlexaI am a project manager in Tech no no only fans no only fans I'm tempted though I hear how much money y'all make and I'm not going to
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Andrew Wilsonlie my name is uh my name is Andrew Wilson I'm a far-right Christian populist I guess that would be the closest you could describe me as um and I own a channel on YouTube called The
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Andrew WilsonCrucible which I host and it's one of the fastest growing debate channels if not the fastest growing debate Channel on YouTube all right cool so we're you're not on only fans Not okay who the
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Brian Atlashell would want to pay for that I'd pay for it are you proposing a collaboration Nala between I mean chran I was a pastor's daughter oh actually wait we have some news articles about
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Nalathat that we can look at quick about that yeah so you used to be maybe you can tell us briefly about that history so I was a pastor's daughter starting as a pre-teen my dad was a pastor for like
00:07:22
Kyla5 years um very Baptist pastor and then we went into like nomination kind what kind of Baptist was he he was it you went to non-dom so I'm guessing like probably Center probably not fundament like did women have to
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Nalawear skirts absolutely not no there was like modesty rules but not like extreme modesty rules um very very tradition in in worship very much so yes yes um but
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Nalathen we moved to non- denomination and um slowly but surely he kind of got out of the church as a pastor and just kept going to church and then you know I became a sinner
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Brian Atlasso wow okay um good times we have some a couple news articles about that that U about how I have like s oh no
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Brian Atlasmy gay that's the guy I until he became gay oh my god oh wow okay I went from pastor's daughter to millionaire only fans model and make nearly $150,000 a month or sorry that's wait you did
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Brian Atlaswhat now what did what h no I was just hold on let's just went from being a pastor's daughter to a
00:08:27
Alexabut you still use coupons okay scroll down so that's look wow oh my God other side on side
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Nalapleas um wow that's quite the transformation you play violin I yeah wait hold on I think I was like damn I look like I was like
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KikiSC scroll down a little bit please just so it's at the top of also younger I know that's so weird what a transformation know your body looks like you're 20 thanks my
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Brian Atlasbody hasn't changed you still play violin next time next time we get you on maybe violin solo okay if you sub you can watch or play violin it actually can I have you tilt your microphone down what's there's another article too right
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Brian Atlascurious what's the article so oh this is the mirror I gave up life as a pastor daughter to sell Saucy snaps and now I'm a millionaire scroll down it was more than sausy snaps oh look it was just a
00:09:27
Brian Atlasbaby wow huge trans oh wow okay all right off we go all right okay what's a uh what's a
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SPEAKER_00saucy snap a nude spicy badore xcore donated $200 first off only fans subscribers are
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SPEAKER_00simps and beaters that get no play I don't give women money would I ever faom subbing on only fans PS according to Reddit Nal your nudes are trash they pay
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Kikifor the good ones let's try to be nice let's try to be nice you don't have to be nice I love this he say I love pay $200 to say that like I think he's a ba male who gets no play if he spent $200
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Salemto say that yeah you say like you're just trying so hard to prove your point and that is just sadic subscribing to her only fans you basically just paid a room of women and you were like I don't women money like that thank you so much I ain't getting paid so I think I was
00:10:25
Brian Atlasjust going right to Brian Good Times all right thank you um oh so going around the table what is everybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits
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Nalarelationship married polyu sex cult Harum if you're single how long have you been single what's the longest relationship you've ever been in God I've been single for almost two years now uh January the end of January will
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Nalabe two years I'm really really happy actually I feel like I've grown so much in these last two years by myself and with my puppies and um I don't know my
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Nalalife has just improved so much not having someone like hold me down um and yeah that's it and you're did you say how long your longest relationship was M almost 3 years cuz I almost got married
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Kylaso is that the one that ended two years ago or is that a different no that was a different one gotcha gotcha okay what about you uh I've been married for 6 years we've been together for like seven and a half um and that's obviously my
00:11:23
Brian Atlaslongest relationship sorry you've been married for six years gotcha got married at 23 yeah got it okay um my longest relationship has been
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Pixielike three almost four years um I'm currently single um and yeah how long have you been single for um about a year
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Caitlynokay got it what about you I'm currently single more single than last time he ghosted me officially um yeah so that's been for
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Caitlynabout two two-ish weeks and then my longest relationship ship was about 3 years may he rest in peace he just passed away um sorry to hear this is
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Brian Atlasthis wait he just passed away was he cuz you were just on two weeks ago so is this something that happened in the past two weeks yeah happened last week on
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Brian AtlasThanksgiving well sorry to hear that uh wow so you've been single though uh but you last time you were on you were in the situation ship kind it like towards the LA it was like the last legs of the
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Caitlynsituation ship okay is that what the the man who passed away no okay give me uh give me a reminder on the whole situationship situation um so we were talking we were like we caught feelings for each other really fast he was a
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Caitlynmarine so we started talking about marriage and then it kind of got really pressure like I the I think the idea of the marriage put a lot of pressure on him so um and then he and also ended up
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Caitlynrealizing I or coming to the realization that I was not the person that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with which is fine so we were chitchatting here and there every couple days and then actually last time I flew out to
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Brian AtlasCalifornia was the last time that me and him have had a conversation okay got it now was the breakdown this relationship
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Caitlyndue to your appearance on the whatever podcast I he didn't say anything about it so okay okay I thought maybe he saw you on and I don't know he didn't ever say anything we talked like once or
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Brian Atlastwice maybe after the podcast okay maybe I see okay all right gotcha what about you um that's my pump uh I've been
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Brian Atlassingle for a little less than a year okay yeah uh all right and longest relationship uh my longest relationship was like 3 years three years got it okay a little less than a year all right what
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Brian Atlasabout you um I've been in like an on andof relationship can I have you just tilt the microphone up a little bit scoot it close towards you and speak close into it please go ahead I've been
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Salemin an on and off relationship Rel ship for it's been a situationship and then like a relationship but it's been on and off and I think we're done now but you think you're done well we are done now
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Salemoh you are done how long have you been done um about 2 weeks two weeks okay and yes and my longest relationship was 3
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Brian Atlasyears gotcha and how long were you seeing this on again off again n months how long n months N9 months got it how many times was it off on too many to
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Brian Atlascount too many like every other every fortnite every other week like we'd be like yeah we're done like every week who more often than not who would be me ending things every single time or sometimes he would every single time so
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Brian Atlasif you I mean nine months if it was every week so are we talking uh like 30 plus times on them off yeah yeah 40 plus
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Brian Atlas50 50 no like like 30 okay um who would go back to who like or who would ask to get back together you or him probably
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Salemhim yeah probably him him okay and so but you would end things but why would you keep taking him back well he would change he said he would change he said
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Salemhe would change and um it was a situation where I feel like I I in the relationship I felt so masculine in a point where like I don't feel like I was
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Salemable to be feminine and he uh is a very emotional person okay and so um it was just kind of a thing where he would make
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Salemme feel um you know like I would have to kind of take him back because he would you know just be emotional and you know and I
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Salemfelt bad so I would stay and then he just wouldn't um change so I yeah so I felt like the man in the Rel relationship basically and when you were
00:16:01
Brian Atlasbreaking up with him was there something spe like would he be cheating on you would he be starting like an argument or something no uh it was basically just like I felt like I was babying him like
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SalemI I am the I'm the I make money in the relationship I'm the only one like that you know I'm the soul you're 20 right how how old was he
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Brian Atlashe's 22 22 okay how did how do you guys meet in person inag he DM you he found me on live yeah oh okay was he one cuz you do o right so
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Salemwas he one well no no no he found me on Tik Tok oh on Tik Tok what was it like a dance video or something no just like a live I used to go live just get ready with me stuff like that okay so he slid
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Brian Atlasinto the DMS did you guys live in the same city was this uh yeah no he lived uh like an hour away he lived in La okay I see all right and so 30 plus times on
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Salemagain off again yeah and I mean when I say that I mean it very lightly like I would just be like yeah I'm done like and then like you know sounds healthy um
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Salemyeah but it it was just I you get tired of um I feel like you when you are at a point in your life when you are you know
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Salemyou feel like you're ready to settle down and you um have everything that you feel like you need in your life to uh succeed and you feel like you're you know finally at a point where you don't
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Salemneed anybody and somebody comes into your life and you know and not at the same level it's hard to um it's hard to
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Salemyou know have a relationship with them cuz I feel like you grow a resentment in um like I I want us to be on the same level but you're not doing anything to get on my level so it's
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Brian Atlasjust okay so it's been off for two weeks has he tried to get back with you or is this the final straw final straw you sure yeah cuz I mean there's been 30 plus previous
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Brian Atlasattempts to call it off definitely this could be number 31 you know no final St final you committed to it on the whatever podcast so we're going to have you back in two months and we're going to need an update if it actually was the
00:18:10
Salemfinal I'm leaving to Dubai like back to Dubai so I uh feel like once I go back there yeah well I grew up in Dubai oh okay okay makes sense cuz I've heard
00:18:21
Salemsome some people sometimes people go there no for certain gigs no no no I grew up there oh so um I just uh brought uh bought an
00:18:32
Salemapartment over there so I'm planning on you know starting my life over there and um you know so I feel like once I go there it's kind of like I move on you
00:18:44
Salemknow do you have uh so do you have what is it UAE citizenship no so I like were you Bor I just became a US citizen so um but since like I've lived there before and we my parents have had property over
00:18:57
Salemthere like we you know no one actually gets UA citizenship it's actually nobody has you just get a Visa like a living Visa you have residency or C dual ciens gotcha
00:19:11
Brian Atlasyou mentioned that one of the issues in the relationship was that you were making money you felt like you're the provider in the relationship um but and you don't need to say a number but I do
00:19:22
Brian Atlasknow it can be the case that when a woman gets involved with only fans for example the there's a lot of potential to make a lot of money right whereas like a 22-year-old guy who might not be
00:19:33
Brian Atlaswell established in his career might not have the opportunity to match somebody who's around his age cohort so do you think that you know I completely agree and and there's a thing where I told him
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SalemI don't need you to make money like I don't need you to make like crazy money I don't even need you to make like $10,000 a month I just want you to show me that you're working you're hustling you have ambition to work I see but
00:19:58
Salemthere was none of that you know there there was no urgency to make money and that's a problem for me do any of the other women at the panel have you had this experience with with a guy yes yes so many it's just so hard because even
00:20:11
Nalaif they're not working it's like what are you doing like you I'm interested in this this this and this and you kind of just maybe go to the gym and like that's not enough so many people go to the gym but like I want to do this and this and
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Nalayou can't even come with me to this stuff so it doesn't even have anything to do with only fans like our hobbies in general like I'm we're just more people like than that you know like we're more of a person and so it's really difficult
00:20:35
Nalato see a guy they're like oh the girl's making all the cash like I don't need to do much she's got the house she's got the car her life is put together even if it is only fans money you know we still
00:20:46
Brian Atlasdid it and now we're doing better things with our life yeah speaking of cars can we find a picture of Nala's green Lamborghini uh it's outside yes I saw it
00:20:59
Brian AtlasI was like she's here she's here she made it poison ivy is here you know what you should get a photo with Pixie after the matching green you know I would love that it's so hot you should post it on
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Kylayour Instagram be like this is my Lambo this is mine Lambo I was supposed to say that's that's oh that's it oh she pretty I oh she's so pretty search for is it
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Nalathat that's the Daniel Mac video so that's it that's literally it which one the one just top left Nick go ahead yeah is that is that Rodeo Drive yeah I did
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Brian Atlasit with Daniel Mac anyway strer no are there any photos of it on your IG or there might be it's okay I don't know we'll take one together later are you is there any room for you to scoot your
00:21:44
Alexachair like this way and Scoot it into the table it's on like or no uh is there any no no you guys stay there but is a little bit I just it's it's the leg I just see this squishes you into like I
00:21:55
Kylajust see this gaping hole yeah sorry my like right there sorry my ocds okay okay it's okay okay um all right uh I was going to say actually um at one point in
00:22:07
Kylamy relationship I kind of felt similarly um but the your current marriage got and it led to a lot of issues and I think I realized like I'm not speaking this of
00:22:19
Kylaother women I have no idea but there was a lot of things that he was doing all the time for me that I didn't really see and I I think like honor or respect and so I like grew this like level of
00:22:31
Kylafrustration towards him that like luckily I was able to like kind of snap my head out of it and be like yeah he's not like making a ton of money it was also during Co he was a personal trainer he like literally cannot work and then he would come up with a new business ideas and then there like they like were
00:22:44
Kylawatching his business plan strategies and we like actually no Park workouts either now and he's like come on um so there like wasn't a ton to do but he was doing everything that he could around the house he was cleaning he was cooking he was participating um the issue is
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Kylathat like I was working full time and also doing some of those things and I think um I don't know I feel like this like Financial thing that people get fixated on it tears relationships apart probably more than it needs to cuz I
00:23:08
Kylathink we get like weird Notions about what money needs to look like in a relationship um and I guess it just like changed my mind uh I realized like I don't really care if he's making money
00:23:20
Kylathat much okay I care a lot about like is he high quality character do I trust him do I feel safe with him is he good to me is he sexy does they make me feel sexy like all of these important things
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Kylaof an important relationship do you have the similar spiritual values uh and the answer is yes and I'm not saying that you guys should or shouldn't have broken up I have no idea I'm just so glad that I was able to like that's incredible
00:23:43
Salembreak my head out of that because I love my husband um oh did you have something for then I have a question and I I want to add to that because oh into the mic if you can oh sorry I want to add to
00:23:52
Salemthat because um I feel like I mean um when you're in a relationship and you know there's there's something called you know a lot of people go through like 50/50 and like there's a lot of talk
00:24:04
Salembetween should it be 50/50 should it be a man treats a woman blah blah blah and a lot of people have their own you know ideas on what a relationship should be and what it shouldn't and I feel like
00:24:16
Salemfrom where I come from like my culture and my tradition it's always been you know a man takes care of a woman right but obviously like I see a relationship as you know we should be
00:24:27
Salem50-50 in where we both trust each other we both do whatever we can to support each other and whatever it might be but in this case like if a
00:24:37
Salemman or in this case like if a man isn't um you know like you said your man was doing stuff around the house he was you
00:24:45
Salemknow he's a personal trainer he d d d du in in a lot of cases it's um like in mine he wanted me to take that first
00:24:56
Salemstep with him where it was like I want you to help me find what I want to do I want you to help me go work out I want you to be there with me when I go find
00:25:07
Salemthis and I want and I was like I can't help you take those baby steps I will be there for you I will support you but you need to find what you want to do because and for me my when I started the only
00:25:18
Salemfans he was around and he wanted to get involved with that right and I was like yeah like I I want you to be involved let's make money but then to a point where it was like okay you're not doing anything else
00:25:31
Salemyou're always on just video games you're not cleaning the house you're not doing anything so it felt like I wanted that to be my own thing and I wanted him to have his own thing and I wanted him to
00:25:42
Salemgrow in doing his own thing and then once we do have that then we can you know come back and make money together that guy before you started your only
00:25:53
Salemfans yes yes and and we had a conversation did the only fans help help that so we had a conversation like before I started and he was the one that kind of nudged me into you know do you
00:26:05
Salemknow you can make money off this like you know and I was like yeah so he told me like I don't want to lose you to this I don't want you to you know cuz he's seen a lot of girls change and I mean
00:26:16
Salemwe've all seen a lot of once a girl starts or anyone starts making money like that you know it changes people sometimes so that was definitely a conversation that we had but I also feel
00:26:27
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Pixiethis uh if you want to answer the question P question would you date or f i I have a strict um no red pill or
00:27:03
Brian Atlasred pill adjacent men shoot guys I'm uh I'm out of luck I'm out of luck I'm deeply hurt um we won't make you buy your dinner when you go on a date what wait wait wait wait
00:27:14
Brian Atlaswhat if I turn blue pill oh I'd be open he would never convert me
00:27:23
AlexaMommy okay um so can I ask a question to the only girls real quick in these relationships like did you did you were you able to articulate what you need in a relationship it wasn't if it
00:27:36
Alexawasn't a financial or monetary like did you verbalize to them what they could contribute cuz I feel like for a lot of guys like depending on how you're raised there's a small window of where men feel like they can contribute and
00:27:49
Alexafeel like they have a purpose and have that and unless someone's willing to articulate something other than that you know I I don't fault makes sense yo Sweet Tooth thank you for
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Edenthe gifted 20 memberships um if you guys can give quick responses to that go ahead I feel like kind of similar to what she said like for me it's not even about them being able to make the same money as me cuz like you were saying it's not the most realistic thing all the time especially at the age it's more
00:28:13
Edenabout the ambition and I've definitely like articulated that in past relationships and there's been times where I feel like I was more blinded when I was younger about the money and someone was doing everything they could and then there's been times where a man
00:28:26
Nalajust had no ambition period mhm for me I feel like I'm very good at communicating what I want I because like I I'm gone this far in life and I know what I want and it's it's easy to
00:28:38
Nalacommunicate that and it's actually very simple if you don't have money that's fine I got us we're good you can live with me that's fine I'll be Mommy and Daddy but for me it's like don't you
00:28:49
Nalahave a tattoo here wait Nick yeah can you show it to this camera right here you have a daddy tattoo on your on your lip was the best thing I ever got absolutely not and if it did pain is pleasure there's very few nerves in the
00:29:01
Alexafront of your leg don't those disappear after a while too I heard that but it's been like two years right now yeah it's really it's the same thing with your fingers if you it's just so wet
00:29:12
NalaBrian Haram okay good good time um so yeah it's easy to communicate but for me it's really the simplest things I want to go take a drive with you at Sunset I
00:29:23
Nalawant to I want your attention like don't just be on your phone we're in such a an age right now where like everyone's stuck in their phones and I'm like man put it away like I worked and bust my
00:29:35
Nalaass so we could be here and you're on your phone like you you're like oh I'm grinding I'm grinding like no I'm right here yeah so what what do you feel like
00:29:44
Salemthough is is your limit like would you be in a relationship with someone where okay like the first couple years you guys you know you're the bread winner and he you know it's cool like he's
00:29:57
Nalagiving you attention he's giving you all that and then you get married blah blah blah and he's still not getting a job not doing you know so if I get married to someone we have an amazing connection
00:30:07
Nalaand money never mattered anyway so it just it wouldn't carry on to all of a sudden matter because I make very smart Financial moves for my own future which means I would have been making it for
00:30:18
Nalaboth of us well do you do you want to get married though yes you do okay want to get married I do very down the line i' I've really had these last two years
00:30:28
Nalato really think and get to know myself I started this book called The Art of being alone and it really talks you through like loving yourself and like you're not alone you're literally just
00:30:39
Nalawith yourself like date yourself like do things with yourself and it's it's eye openening I've changed so much in these last two years being single and I don't feel like anyone's ever encouraged me to
00:30:51
Nalabe better once I started getting better the resentment came in and it was like like oh I don't want to feel this way with you you make me feel like I'm better but you're like putting me on
00:31:02
Nalathis weird pedestal and then you're jealous of it and it's odd and it makes me feel uncomfortable makes me feel like you're a little beta makes wait makes you feel like a little beta no it makes me feel like they're a little beta I'm
00:31:14
Naladaddy you like what you like correct or well she wants to take care of you want I'm a nurturer but I don't want to be the like like you still have to protect me you want to be feminine I exactly I'm
00:31:26
SPEAKER_00not put a St or some like I literally I thought you did only wom only wom I've never a man in the ass with the thing is once you hit pork you money then it
00:31:36
SPEAKER_00is irrelevant who made it but how it is made does matter selling your body is probably a suboptimal way to get there yeah do we think he's had sex in
00:31:47
Brian Atlaslast year if I could ask I think he's married um well I let me get through a couple of my questions cuz I'm I'm you got it I've
00:31:55
Brian Atlasgot back here um coming back to you really quick you were talking about um your relationship with your husband are you the bread winner that's what stem this conversation are you you're the bread winner in the relationship and
00:32:08
Brian Atlasyou're you're cool with that absolutely okay yeah and um let me see hold on my other note here I guess just to make sure cuz I really I'm really really intentional because I think a lot of people when they hear that my biggest frustration actually in any social media
00:32:20
Kylaplatform is people trying to demasculate my husband in any way so I think a lot of what you girls are talking about is this lack of like respect and even though I'm the bread winner there's no world in which I don't have like the
00:32:32
Kylahighest respect for my husband he's still very masculine um he just doesn't bring in as much money and to be honest most of the money I bring in is kind of a team effort because almost all my business Adventures he's business
00:32:45
Kylaplanning with me we coordinating together so it's like I'm bringing all the money in but at the end of the day I wouldn't be here without him partnership and I think that's a big thing too is it's like I I feel bad for
00:32:58
Alexabecause I I I have been in a relationship where I'm the bread winner and I've I've know people women where they're the bread winner and it's like it has nothing to do with masculinity with a guy but I noticed the man feels that way whether or not you treat him
00:33:10
Nalathat way I think it happens for right because you're taking care of everything not only are you you have the money you got the car you might have the the space be putting a roof over their head but
00:33:22
Salemyou're also grocery shopping and cleaning and doing everything a woman is like f but I also feel like for you like you guys have like an understanding in your
00:33:33
Salemrelationship right like he does other things like it's not just about money like when I said that it was not about money at all it was about I want you to do something I don't want you to just
00:33:45
Salemsit at home and play games that is I don't care about money if you're literally going of volunteering I would love that that that would be enough for me to take care of you pay everything
00:33:57
KylaI would have agreed 2 years ago CU that's exactly what I said but then I realized the only thing I about in life is being happy and having a Content life and the reality is like I've found that like most men I think
00:34:10
Salemmaybe you guys would agree is there like a crisis of masculinity going on period oh it's so bad but it's because of our generation agree I think a lot of women we're pressing a lot on oh women's
00:34:21
Salemrights women's like which we we should have we should but I think it's to the point where now it's okay like a lot of
00:34:31
Alexamen are you know stepping down and feeling emasculated and I feel like men are afraid to be masculine because it's also like if you're masculine
00:34:41
Brian Atlasyou're Alexa you you said that in previous relationships you were the breadwinner at one point but it sounded like I've had both so correct me if I'm wrong though you said that you think
00:34:52
Brian Atlasit's more so on the man's side an issue when the woman out earns is that your position that that was at typically the man who has an issue with with a woman out earning him yeah because I I didn't have a problem or is it the case that
00:35:05
SPEAKER_00women become resentful of their Partners when they donated $200 bitly sl3 ago3
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SPEAKER_00CX give FC UK most if not all feminists are gay guys never argue with a
00:35:22
SPEAKER_00304 Brian how much for your dignity how much for my dignity $100 million is his answer uh how much for my dignity uh
00:35:38
SPEAKER_00seven about 350 thank you modest panel no it's a great panel show BC High Caliber guest no offense Andrew Tech PM
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SPEAKER_00your devs hate you if you don't know how to code bet u e girl lip filler looks bad panel what is a woman you spent $200 a woman someone was a you spent
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Alexa$200 to say that on a trash that was crazy that was crazy also my devs have no problem that I for the fact that I can't code CU that's what they do I'm a I'm a glorified mom if anything and I make sure a glorified mom I make sure
00:36:12
Brian Atlasthey get their work done and that's how it goes cuz they left on their own they won't get it done so just to address it uh we were originally going to have uh Michael nolles on the show but unfortunately uh he had to uh cancel
00:36:24
Brian Atlasthere's this last minute thing with the uh daily wire but we are going to reschedule and I think I announced it I might have announced him previously but uh we are going to reschedule that uh
00:36:34
Brian Atlasfor a future date so sometimes just you know last minute things uh cancellation so we've had him on the show before we've had Candice also from the daily wire so we'll uh we'll we'll get him
00:36:44
Brian Atlasback uh on eventually but uh yeah um okay I forgot where we were um I think I was just addressing your oh did you have something go ahead go ahead I just um to add I was gonna say I mean it kind of goes with he said the what is the woman
00:36:55
Edenthing I feel like you can't really like like okay when girls say a relationship should be 50/50 or shouldn't I feel like so many things it kind of goes into like sexuality it's a it's a preference some girls they know that the way they'll be happy is being in their utmost feminine
00:37:09
Edenbeing provided for and there's a man who's going to enjoy doing that there's a woman who wants to take care of a man and prefers a submissive man there's a girl who doesn't mind taking care of a man and he can still be the masculine one it's like everyone has their own
00:37:20
Edenpreferences and then just trying to put other people's relationship in a box kind of just shows you're unhappy with yourself oh true if you was that directed at the most recent chatter or I mean I just kind of got It's just in
00:37:32
Edengeneral but then when he was saying the what is a woman it kind of me of that cuz in the similar light like what being a woman would be different to each woman what makes them feel like a woman well since he did ask we might as well go around the table on this and I do I have
00:37:44
Brian Atlasa ton of questions I still need to initial I mean I have a dozen questions but uh what is a woman oh boy he wants to get in they want they want to get
00:37:54
Nalainto it right away wow so I do believe in God and I believe that God created man and woman and I know this is stepping on toes and just again everyone
00:38:06
Nalahas their own opinion I'm not forcing mine on anyone this is purely just what I believe that your God think that it's a sin to do only fans are you talking about my God or our god well what God do
00:38:17
Nalayou believe in well well the God that I believe in thinks that that's a sin okay I agree with that too I don't think that God's like looking down at me and being like oh great job Nala that's the daddy
00:38:27
Andrew WilsonI created right there um so you think so you think that the god that you believe in knows that you're sinning and you're just doing it anyway yeah but isn't that what Sinners do uh well I I mean I guess
00:38:40
Nalabut it's not usually what religious people do religious people don't usually cl to be religious what is religious I don't understand well isn't all religion is different than Christianity like I mean Christian that's why what your relationship with God is different
00:38:53
Nalawhat's your God though what is it what's my God the Messiah the only God yeah who's that though what's the nature of this God the nature like is it a Christian God yeah yeah is it it's the Christian God it's not like the Buddha
00:39:05
Andrew WilsonGod so the Christian God has a nature to him right and part of the nature he created nature yeah but also has a nature you don't think so I mean I feel
00:39:15
Andrew Wilsonlike I'm confused by the question he has a nature of what of of being God so if his just claim that he was God yeah so if his nature is God I'm just asking you you think that the god that you believe in knows you're sinning you just do it
00:39:27
Andrew Wilsonanyway I do but I feel like everyone's sinning are you not a sinner yourself you know what the fian deal is the fan deal I don't fan yeah yeah yeah so fa was a doctor who made a deal with the devil so that he could have more stuff
00:39:39
Andrew Wilsonthat he wanted it was all about him and his ego and that type of thing uh literally made deal would you rather me deny God literally made a deal with a demon well you already are that's not true me true mean I just proclaimed his
00:39:52
Brian Atlasname no just because of what I do does not mean I deny him as my God yeah if you believe what you're doing is against him then in a way so the original question is hold on the original question is what is a woman
00:40:04
Kylashe's answered it what about you oh okay unless you wanted to add anything but okay right now some later a really shitty documentary by Matt
00:40:13
KylaWalsh well okay but I'm asking a question what is a woman uh it's a it's kind of like porn when you look at it you know what it is but it's hard to Define so you look at a woman and you're like looks like a woman for the most
00:40:25
Pixiepart what is female is obviously like somebody with like XX chromosomes and blah blah blah blah blah okay what is a woman is somebody who looks and presents as a woman and I know a lot of people
00:40:36
Pixieare like oh no it's biology but let's be honest no one checked my genitals or my chromosomes before calling me a woman on here and I didn't check anybody else's chromosomes or genitals before calling
00:40:48
Caitlynthem a woman so it's how they look like like their physical how they act performance yeah it's how they perform basically okay um I believe a woman is both a biological woman that identifies as a
00:41:01
Caitlynwoman and a transgender and or a transgender woman that identifies as a woman and I would like to comment on what you said about God made men and women I think I saw a Tik tocker you know some quotes on Tik toks a couple
00:41:13
Caitlyntimes where it said God Tre created transgenderism the same for the same ra reason that he created grapes but not wine so that the same way that we created grapes but not wine I was going
00:41:26
Caitlynto say if we saw it on Tik Tok it's must be true must be true let her finish her sentence yeah I'm not even like laying down any facts or any biblical information but he
00:41:36
Caitlyncreated grapes but not wine he created people that want to create something so like we it's so that we as humans can experience the Act of
00:41:47
CaitlynCreation is why transgenderism exists while and it's not a sin in you know my opinion can I add something but would it be a sin if you're kind of changing what
00:41:58
SalemGod made is it a sin to dye your hair or to get a haircut or in the Old Testament you think it is would it
00:42:08
Salemlike if let's say like when God created man and woman would it be against whatever your religion or God to
00:42:18
Andrew Wilsonbasically say God made me this way and I I'm changing what God made she's talking nature are you are you religious by the way I am religious you Muslim yeah she's talking about a nature distinction just saying if you cut your hair that's not
00:42:30
Pixiechanging your nature is it not you're literally Chang not anom so do you guys believe do you guys believe that um what is it getting any type of surgery whatsoever those people
00:42:42
Pixieare stive surgery is not changing your nature you are literally you're literally increasing your breast size or reducing it or changing your physical appearance if we took a cat if we took a cat and we gave a cat breast implants is
00:42:54
Kylait now not a cat changing it nature no you're not changing it nature still a cat so you're saying cats naturally have breast cats do have breast one
00:43:05
Kylatime an important question would be say you take a cat and then you apply enough surgeries that it has a dogtail dog ears and then it starts barking all the time are you still going to call it a cat that's the actual question that we're
00:43:17
Kyladealing with some people would still call it a cat I call a the issue is that that the issue that we're running to is if you define gender as essentially the performance right if you separate gender
00:43:29
Kylaand sex although I would argue gender is obviously Downstream of sex but if you treat them as separate words then the question is why do we like if you're going to say G gender and sex are the same thing why do we have two words I what's the purpose can I something well
00:43:42
Brian Atlaslet's maybe let's go around the table to give everybody an opportunity to answer the initial question what is a woman and then if you want to add any additional go ahead oh um I mean what I was going to say is I just feel like with that
00:43:53
Edenargument like obviously not every person is is going to um what's it called agree with certain things or understand why people are trans for me I feel like the main core thing is is if we know that their life expectancies are in they're
00:44:04
Edenlike 26 27 28 because of suicide for me it's more of like whether or not you understand it it doesn't hard to it doesn't hard to respect somebody so hold people emotionally hostage what part of that is holding
00:44:15
Andrew Wilsonsome because if you say I will remove myself from the equation if you don't do this thing I want you're holding people emotionally h i mean I feel like if you're not passing and someone accidentally calls you the wrong pronoun like yes you're being like you shouldn't
00:44:27
Andrew Wilsonblow up on people for things like that but if like you if if you're vindictively doing it that's a different thing but isn't an emotional hostage Jak and just say do this thing or else I'll hurt myself no I don't think any trans person is saying if you did not well
00:44:39
Kylathen why would the argument come up then where she say the reason we ought to do this is because these people could hurt themselves yeah there are absolutely transgender people who are saying if you don't do this I'm going to kill myself right and that's can we
00:44:54
Salemavoid but I also think I also think like if someone you can not agree or agree with something but then like if someone came up to you and like said like to you know like respect them or whatever I
00:45:07
Salemthink that that should be respected but I also think like everyone has their own opinions and you believe in what you believe in but then if you're like purposely like attacking somebody for what they believe in then I think that's
00:45:19
Salema little like okay like you shouldn't be doing that but then at the same time like everyone also believes in what they believe in but when it comes to like a woman and or when it comes to transgendering like
00:45:30
Salempronouns like I saw this Tik Tok where it was like okay like if I told you oh well I am I need to be called beautiful and um I need to be called smart and if
00:45:42
Salemyou don't call me that then you're basically like you know you're wrong because it's like isn't it really the same thing or if they say that they'll hurt themselves if you don't a cup I
00:45:53
Kylamean Define for me a cup or sandwich what's a cup or a sandwich a cup what is a what is a sandwich something woman makes that's a joke come on that means
00:46:05
KylaCurry is also this is the chair argument right theair yeah so you can never Define completely what a chair is actually that's not what I'm trying to say at all I'm trying to say that we tend to Define things in functional ways that's the way that we use language
00:46:17
Kylaright so like when we go like into like what's a soup is as smoothie as soup it's in part a stupid question because nobody cares what we is we act like smoothies aren't really soup even
00:46:28
Kylathough they kind of are in almost every single way but they're not really like nobody treats them like their soup which what I don't call smoothies soup and so this is a way where I'm breaking out to like I wouldn't say that a trans person
00:46:40
Kylais a female I wouldn't really be willing to confer those medical terms to them but when it comes to woman it's necessarily evolved as a word of functionality and so it's like it's really weird if you have Megan Fox but
00:46:51
Andrew Wilsonshe has a dick from you be like it's still a man it's like I don't think I think that that's less weird so definitions also have definite ends they have support for what the definition is supposed to be so we can look at words and then we can look at the words that
00:47:03
Andrew Wilsonsupport those words what's the word that supports the word of woman it's female it is it's always been when is it never when has it not been just one sec just
00:47:13
SPEAKER_00one sec just one sec F's sake forcing people to participate in others mental illness wrong and hurts everyone it is literally an enemy action to encourage
00:47:23
Edensomeone to live in delusion stop the lies get some help I mean all right there you have it um like to go back to we're talking about earlier I do think the logic of well we're all Sinners as a reason to sin doesn't really make too
00:47:35
Edenmuch sense because like to just to know you're going to continue sinning when you go and you confess or um ask for forgiveness when you're asking for forgiveness like is it asking for forgiveness or is it manipulation if I tell you I'm sorry let's say for a relationship example I'm sorry I cheat
00:47:48
Edenon you I'm not going to cheat on you again and then Cheat 2 Days Later were you ever truly sorry do I like the lurgical answer like Catholicism for example say no you're not actually sorry yeah yeah and I feel like different religions and different sectors of Christianity might Define it differently
00:48:01
Edenbut I feel like I grew up I was like alter serving waited till marriage in high school and for me the moment where I kind of had to step away from it is if this is true and if I believe in a Christian God that could literally damn me to Eternal fire for this this is the
00:48:12
Edenmost important thing in the world so it's either I live by it or I don't believe in it at all because it's kind of odd to believe in something like that and then cherry pick it so did you just decide to not live by it I I mean I
00:48:25
Edencould go into depth of what I believe I don't I feel like I couldn't trust the same uh church that was sending out millions of dollars of hush money touching kids taking gospels out the Bible most Christians don't even know about Mary Magdalene like certain things
00:48:36
Edenaren't really talked about which makes me feel like I don't trust the church as much as I I do believe in God but I wouldn't say I believe in a uh this one didn't trigger but okay a woman is a
00:48:45
Brian Atlasbiological female who doesn't have the her by that I he always met Jay Butler he always talks about hares by that standard there isn't any women in that
00:48:56
Brian Atlasroom Brian said oh my God Brian said the best on a long enough timeline all porn stars get herpes did I say did you say that did I say that I might have I might have you should yell at your viewers
00:49:08
Salemwho's not paying attention not every here is porn stars mostly all porn stars get tested and stuff like that so most porn panels don't test for herpes that is true then a lot of the
00:49:20
Kylalike they don't test for uh herpes so or HPV the problem is herpes is also like silent most of the time that % of people silent
00:49:32
Kylaherpes I've also heard that that study is not being replicated well so I would take that with like a grain of salt all right well he's he happens to be a urologist is her's also
00:49:42
Kikienvironmental you get it from your envir drinking from a that's what I'm saying has to do very different are you talking animals I just that's that's a crime I'm just want to say what you're
00:49:56
Nalatalking about the environment what are you you're going out in the forest what are you doing she means like right now we could environment doesn't just have to do with the forest have you been intimate with a coyote no okay because I
00:50:07
Brian Atlasdon't practice maybe the that's a reservoir for herpes is the coyote population in California do you know I've never even seen a coyot they've been hanging out there's a lot of
00:50:16
Brian Atlascoyotes in the sfv where a lot Co coyote know about coyote um coyotes I'll tell
00:50:27
Brian Atlasyou going around the table what uh what is a woman I think we were I think you answered correct what what about you I don't really know how to answer
00:50:38
Salemthat it's okay you can it's okay uh you believe a woman is uh someone who is feminine and um that doesn't mean that you know so
00:50:51
Kylathere's a trans woman who's like looks like Megan Fox a woman if Megan fox has a dick is she woman but she looks like a woman and she's super feminine she's not a woman okay so you don't think women are people well that's what I was about
00:51:03
Kylato say but I don't think that's why I don't really she does want to get she doesn't want to get cancel you want XX chromosomes in a vagina yes yes yes except for hermaphrodites you're not really sure about that well I was going
00:51:14
Salemto actually ask if let's say like going back to that um if Megan Fox had a dick would you allow her to compete in woman sports do you want to open the trans
00:51:27
Brian AtlasSports conversation cuz it's super different than like a definitional get around the table we can get to the the sports things we'll get around the table just after this donated
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SPEAKER_00$200 thank you man I'm sick of the argument that because there are two separate words they must be different what the diff between glad happy good we all learned a word in elementary to
00:51:50
Brian Atlasdescribe this oh yeah synonyms idiot okay huh that's really stupid okay what what if definitionally definition jesz I can't say this word def can anybody definitionally definition thank
00:52:03
Brian Atlasyou thank you English is my second language so okay coyote is your first right coyote is your first yes damn wait Nala let's hear a little okay never mind that's not exactly what I was going for but I liked it thank you thank you
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Nalathan no but I thought you were referring to the Japanese like last time you're like no let's hear that did you think I spoke coyote or some what if definitionally a cohort of
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Brian Atlaspeople think that or believe that the word woman refers to a female and the word man refer refers to males yeah I mean this is the issue with definition arguments it's like the way that
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Kylasocieties come to definitions is super different this is why when people like emically it doesn't mean that nobody cares because that's not how we treat words unless they're like clinical medical words and we got rid of all these words from being clinical medical
00:52:49
Kylafor the most part so if society as a group decides that a woman is a woman with two ex chromosomes exclusive then everyone's going to function like that way the problem is that it's still not very functional in a society if you've got Megan Fox walking around
00:53:02
Kylahiding her dick super well because you're definitely not testing for people's vaginas and ex chromosomes when you're just looking around this is why gender's more of a performance and sex is a medical it is it is actually useful true so here's the truth the truth is is
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Andrew Wilsonthat Society didn't have any problems with this society's never had any problems with this nobody was ever confused about who was a man who was a woman ever it never came up ever it never came up yeah it is true I just let
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Andrew Wilsonyou talk the whole time I didn't say anything so look we really didn't have this problem it was not a problem you go back and read books in the 20s 30s 40s 50s they're not talking about this you
00:53:36
Andrew Wilsonread books from the 1800s not they don't care okay it was not a problem inside of society to know who was a female and who was a male never been a problem what has
00:53:46
Andrew Wilsonhappened is special interest groups have moved in to the social sciences and have begun to fund studies and have begun to push an agenda in order to make this
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Andrew Wilsondefinition now get pushed out into the ethos and like KY sorry like not soer just said right what happens is in the sociological Fields they've already begun changing all the definitions there
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Andrew Wilsontrying to get it to get changed out into the ethos into the commons but you know what we really shouldn't have done that and they don't have the authority to do make that choice for other people so I would you and I could probably circle
00:54:21
SPEAKER_00jerk about how sociology is all day cuz I hold on modima donated $200 why do trans women Mark female on government forms there was a turning
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SPEAKER_00point recently where gender and biology combined again stop acting like I need to partake in and confirm people's fetishes SMH yeah that's the other thing
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Andrew Wilsonis autog gyil and how many of the um you know mtfs suffer from autophilia is definitely a fetish and there's a really big issue when you look at FTM as far as
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Kylalike comorbidity of like kind of canary disorders that we would call in their early adolesence right so when you list criticisms I'm not so partisan that I wouldn't just grant you all those criticisms the issue for me when we're
00:55:06
Kylatalking about definitions is a it's a boring conversation to me and B the history that you gave isn't quite correct for example wife men etymologically just comes from talking
00:55:17
Kylaabout like the other partner who wasn't the man like it was just wife men he's also got lots of cultures for example that have something like the Fafa the fa cine is a third gender that exists in a Samoan culture it's existed for a couple of hundred of years and I I would agree
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Kylaif you're like well that's a case different example the problem is that there is history and dialogue about gender Dynamics to some degree it's just the issue is like they didn't have the language that we have now when they talk
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Andrew Wilsonabout it they had the language in the 20s the 30s the 40s the 50s to say hey Bill Bill over there he's not just wearing a wig right he's a Woman They had the language to do that of course
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SPEAKER_00they feel like they were also very uh donated $200 since condoms do not protect from genital herpes and 60 bodies equals
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SPEAKER_00exposure to 12 infected Partners I can promise Nala is a threat to every in room Abdul get the Rocks we found
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Andrew Wilsonpatient zero oh my God but my other kind of my other thing is if you look at what gender is supposed to represent it has two ends of an extreme so the two ends of the extreme have to be male and
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Andrew Wilsonfemale or gender can't actually mean anything it can't because a word has to refer to something outside of the word itself it has to refer to something outside of the word itself or it's regressive it's a regressive definition
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Andrew Wilsonso if you have male on this side and female on this side the gender is referring to the biology it actually has to be referring to the biology I've already granted you that gender is
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KylaDownstream biology but just because two synonyms overlap it doesn't make them the same word you're this is why the one person that messaged him was like Joy good BL are all the same word I'm just like holy I'm really worried about your vocab score we do have a whole