Broke Men Should NOT Date?! She HATES America?! Husband CRASHES Show! | Dating Talk #121
Date: 2023-11-27
Duration: 7h 17m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Kenderly Ryan(guest)
SPEAKER_03Abigail(guest)
SPEAKER_04Carla Elia (overlap)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Carla Elia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Monica (Swedish Bella)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Anna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Gloria Calderone(guest)
SPEAKER_11Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_12Dustin (Carla's husband)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_14Holly Treats(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:39
QuoteHolly Treats introduces herself as full-time content creator since 2015 including OnlyFans
“hi my name is Holly treats I'm 28 years old and I live in Los Angeles and I've been a full-time content creator since 2015”
00:03:02
QuoteCarla Elia introduces herself as relationship coach who went viral for controversial stance
“hello my name is Carla Eli I'm 23 years old and I'm a relationship coach and I live in San Diego”
00:03:38
QuoteKenderly Ryan introduces herself as adult film star of 14 years who now manages performers
“I'm kenderly Ryan um I am 32 years old I am from Los Angeles California and I I'm an adult film star of 14 years and I also now started managing lovely women”
01:45:10
QuoteMonica reveals her open marriage is only open for pegging
“the thing is he's not into it right into what the pegging part um wait is it you guys got an open marriage yes only for pegging”
03:59:00
ControversyKenderly's tweets read on air: 'white people don't have culture' and 'it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men'; she stands by both
“I still stand by that very strongly. It's not racist for black women to humiliate white men. That's how I feel. It's called reparations for your ancestors.”
04:48:12
QuoteHolly refuses to share body count saying she 'never reveals her secrets'
“Holly treats I've got I put a lot out there so there's plenty of find other than body count you should put a little more out there”
04:49:30
QuoteKenderly declines to give body count number but gives range: ~50 professional scenes + 50-100 private partners, sexually active since age 13
“I've done about 50 scenes and I've had about 50 to 100 private Partners okay I became sexually active at 13”
04:52:12
QuoteAbigail shares body count of ~14 and expresses regret about not respecting herself
“it's 28 I used to not have very good respect for myself when I was younger and I wish I would have gone back in Ma and hold my younger self respect yourself”
04:58:00
QuoteMonica shares body count of 25-30 and reveals it stemmed from seeking validation due to abusive mother
“probably between 25 and 30 like I'm 40 but also I was in a bad place when most of that happened I my mom was super abusive so I just tried to find love wherever I could”
04:59:00
QuoteKenderly says body count 8 then laughs it off
“eight I'm not so interesting okay”
04:59:42
QuoteMason (SPEAKER_11) reveals body count of zero as a 27-year-old virgin
“Mason oh yeah uh zero Z zero Z hand Z Henderson okay good for you”
05:05:06
QuoteCarla rates herself as 'average' to be relatable to her followers
“I was going to say that I was average too I think I'm I'm an average and just because if I'm average and I can get this life that I have then all the other ladies can have the same thing”
05:11:42
QuoteCarla states her position on broke men: absolute — broke men at 30+ should not be dating
“absolutely broke men like financially and mentally sure... if you're 31 40 and you're still broke there's something wrong with you”
05:14:42
QuoteCarla reveals she was a virgin before marriage, which explains her high standards stance
“she was a virgin before she met her husband so I think that's why they said it because they paid attention that she was a virgin before”
05:59:36
QuoteDustin (Carla's husband) introduces himself: ex-Navy, 25, aspiring police officer
“so tell us a little bit about yourself Dustin... I'm uh 25 uh just recently got out of the military... I've been in the process for going on to the police force for about a year now uh should be going in in January”
06:07:48
QuoteDustin describes household dynamic diplomatically when asked if he's under a dictatorship
“I do not think I'm under a dictatorship I I run my household okay uh she just makes the food and uh points me in the right direction”
06:10:30
QuoteDustin describes realizing Carla was different when she refused to hold his hand on first date
“I knew I knew this was a different breed of woman”
Topics Discussed
00:00:22
Introductions and relationship statuses
Guests introduce themselves: Holly Treats (28, LA, content creator/OnlyFans since 2015), Carla Elia (23, San Diego, relationship coach, viral for 'broke men' stance), Kenderly Ryan (32, LA, adult film star 14 years/manager), Abigail (22, Missouri, personal trainer), Monica Swedish Bella (40, Sweden/LA, bikini competitor/OnlyFans/former teacher), Anna (26, Ukraine, 4 years in USA, actress/ecommerce), Gloria Calderone (31, New York, real estate investor), Mason Gregoire (27, mech engineer/powerlifter/Christian). Relationship status round follows.
00:06:26
Relationship status and dating styles round
Holly: single, dating 3 men (2 long distance), recently had someone fall off her roster. Carla: married 1.5 years, virgin before marriage. Kenderly: single 5-6 months, female FWB situationship, also sleeping with 2 men currently. Abigail: single ~1 year, sees someone 6 months (on/off). Monica: married 6 years (slid into DMs). Anna: married, met 4 years ago, married 3 months after meeting. Gloria: married within 4 months of meeting. Mason: single, virgin saving for marriage.
00:27:00
Open relationships, polyamory, and Monica's pegging arrangement
Monica reveals her marriage has an open arrangement for pegging only. Discussion of what constitutes an open marriage and emotional vs physical boundaries.
03:59:00
Kenderly's controversial tweets about white people and America
Brian reads Kenderly's tweets: 'white people don't have culture' and 'it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men'. Kenderly stands by both statements. Group debate on cultural appropriation, double standards, and whether statements are racist. Kenderly says she's half-Mexican. Monica (Polish) and others push back.
04:24:00
Body count discussion and double standards
Brian asks everyone to share body count. Holly refuses. Kenderly gives range (~50 scenes + 50-100 private, sexually active since 13). Abigail: ~14 (by graduation, mostly from 2-month phase at 16-17; regrets it). Monica: 25-30 (most from period of seeking validation due to abusive mother). Gloria: declines (husband watching). Mason: 0. Anna: declines. Debate on double standards for male vs female body count, whether men with high counts can expect low counts, and whether hookup culture is harmful.
05:03:22
Self-ratings (looks 1-10)
Ratings round. Holly: 7 average, can dress to 10. Carla: average/5 (doesn't want to say 10 to be relatable to her followers). Kenderly: 5 appearance, 10 personality. Abigail: 6. Monica: 5 (self-described). Gloria: 8. Mason: 7.5-8. Brian: 5 (gained weight, downgraded from 6).
05:08:36
Carla's viral content reviewed — 'broke men shouldn't date'
Brian reviews Carla's news articles (New York Post, The Mirror, The Sun) and multiple TikTok videos. Carla explains her position: men with provider mindset should show their resources naturally; broke men at 30+ have limiting beliefs and should focus on finances first; women are precious investments. Discussion involves all guests on whether broke men should date/marry/have children. Carla advocates being a virgin and rotational dating without intimacy.
05:46:48
OKCupid attractiveness data and male/female rating disparities
Brian shows OKCupid chart: men rate women on a bell curve while women rate 80% of men as unattractive. Discussion of why women are harsher judges of male attractiveness and how this affects dating marketplace dynamics.
05:50:00
Dating logistics: men working 60-70 hours, submission, and love languages
Discussion of whether women can handle men working very long hours for high income. Monica says she needs her man at home. Carla says women should have their own life alongside a wealthy man. Love language discussion: Monica and Anna both say acts of service/cooking are how they express love to husbands. Brian and Mason discuss appreciating wives' cooking regardless of quality.
05:59:36
Husband Dustin crashes the show
Carla's husband Dustin (ex-Navy, 25, aspiring police officer) joins the panel mid-show. Describes meeting Carla on Bumble, first coffee date (she's allergic to alcohol), spontaneous Denny's and meeting her family. He showed her his finances/credit score/savings on third date. Says 'I knew this was a different breed of woman' when she refused to hold his hand on first date. Describes household as: 'I run it, she makes the food and points me in the right direction.'
06:08:00
Rotational dating debate
Brian and Carla debate rotational dating concept. Brian prefers undivided romantic attention immediately. Carla clarifies rotational dating means spending time with multiple men without intimacy or kissing. Dustin confirms he was fine with it because Carla was clearly not being promiscuous. Monica shares she had no idea how to date after an 11-year relationship ending and found long-distance courtship via Skype valuable.
06:39:00
Protective husband video (Carla's TikTok)
Brian plays Carla's TikTok about asking a man what he would do if a fight broke out — is he the type to pull out his phone or fix it? Dustin responds to the video about himself, saying he would assess the situation for his family's safety and take video evidence for police if appropriate. Carla says knowing her husband would protect the family is the most attractive thing.
Transcript
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06:40:16
Dustin (Carla's husband)this video after she posted it but I'm glad to know that I am looked at as a hero and a savior or uh someone who
06:40:25
Dustin (Carla's husband)keeps my wife safe sure uh in certain situations uh if it it's hard to say what I do in a situation without being in the situation uh if it's a fight
06:40:37
Dustin (Carla's husband)between two men uh is it the best idea to break it up uh it's obviously going to have to come down to me looking at the situation and seeing if it's even
06:40:48
Dustin (Carla's husband)safe for my wife to be there uh if if I should just leave if I should take my wife my kids whoever is with me and go just get out of the situation yeah if
06:40:59
Dustin (Carla's husband)I'm directly involved maybe I'll take a video to show the police when they show up cuz uh maybe that's my best defense against it in in any Court uh it all just depends on the
06:41:11
Dustin (Carla's husband)situation and I wouldn't say I would jump in and be the hero every time but I would definitely keep my family safe in every situation wait can we play the rest actually let's play the rest I think there's a little more go ahead thing that is the most attractive thing
06:41:25
Carla Eliafor me knowing that my husband is going to go R on someone knowing that my husband is not afraid to protect who he cares about or to protect those that need protecting is another level of sexy oh did it pause again I'd be the
06:41:37
Brian Atlasone filming the Tik wait another level of sexy huh wait what I will be the one filming for the Tik Tok uh well okay so
06:41:48
Brian Atlasum let's see do so you think protecting uh whenever a woman is in danger do you think like the husband should give his life I think that's what
06:41:57
Carla Eliayou say in the video right yeah so when when I was saying well recording that it's it's it was out of frustration from a situation that we saw like a breakout at Walmart and there was oh so you were
06:42:09
Carla Eliayou both this was my yeah this is with my mom so she and she was actually telling me the story I didn't really know and that this is where the idea stem stemed from cuz she was so terrified so scared and she's like I hated to see all the men just recording
06:42:22
Carla Elialike idiots because there was two men there and a guy in in the store was like bullying a special needs kid and a fight broke out and my mom was like I'm GL
06:42:33
Carla Eliathat guy who was bullying this kid got you know his butt whipped but like everybody in the room or everybody there the mom was yelling help my son help my son and no one stood up everybody was just recording and nobody like tried
06:42:46
Carla Eliacalling you know 911 no one did anything so I was like that's like the one thing that I love about you know my husband if it were me in that situation oh he he you know he he doesn't care and not just
06:42:56
Carla Eliathat but I've seen my husband like in a in a fight or flight uh Zone and he reacts to every situation so well and I don't know if it's because he's in the military and going on to the police force but that is like another level of
06:43:08
Carla Elialike sexy I I I can't explain being able to feel safe protected by your man in every situation it's hot okay gotcha and you said it sounded like um what about
06:43:19
Brian Atlaslike if it's a first date do you think like you should still the guy should still like protect the woman even like first aid yeah like it so that and this and this is the analogy that I use when
06:43:32
Carla Eliait comes to this is like a man is a car and the woman is a pedestrian a man has the ability to protect okay a man has the Has the strength and the ability to be able to protect you know his woman in that way so I think if he's going to go
06:43:45
Carla Eliaout in a date it's like you have to take on the full you have this is how I want men to start thinking about like you have to be willing to acknowledge the responsibility that you're going into this date I see okay so wait I have a
06:43:56
Brian Atlasproposal though you you know you say like single until married what about unprotected until married what does that mean about a r you don't you don't get
06:44:06
Brian Atlasthe uh I'm not talking about no no savior on the first no no like you know you don't get the man's protection you don't get like if if you're single until married you don't get my protection
06:44:17
Monica (Swedish Bella)until married yeah you're out with a girl on a first date just say you're on a first date and um you know you're not married this is just the first date yeah and you're at a coffee shop and
06:44:29
Monica (Swedish Bella)something a fight breaks out you as a man regardless if you're protecting her you will step in to no so okay it's a liability it's a liability my my primary
06:44:41
Holly Treatsthing would be to what would you protect all the time for no reason go what if they ATT it's liability this person's liability Situation's liability yeah just but you
06:44:52
Brian Atlaswant their full attention what what if they attacked her me fin point before you guys start interrupting so okay sorry no it wasn't even you um if there's two people fighting and I'm
06:45:05
Brian Atlaswith my girlfriend hey babe grabbing her by the arm let's leave like I don't think it's my job to like intervene because like look you can you can be you can be the
06:45:17
Brian Atlashero prot no but like you can be the hero but I've seen way too many situations where some poor guy tries to break up a fight the guy swings around knocks him out who knows if there's a weapon involved my personal thing is there's a lot of crazy
06:45:29
Kenderly Ryanpeople out there you're logical and smart cuz you're still putting her forward because being La no I'm not saying I just leave like you know I would I would like to say a scenario
06:45:41
Brian Atlasjust like yo we need to like if some shit's going down like my Prim my primary thing is like yo we got like if I'm assessing the situation yo this is I don't know if they have a weapon okay we got to we got to leave let's go
06:45:53
Carla Eliaabsolutely so here's the thing so this also stemmed from another case that I saw it was a recent thing it was I got a lot of hate for it it was like in September where I don't know her last name was alv
06:46:03
Carla Eliaand she got shot and you know she you know but she was in the car with her boyfriend at 12:00 a.m. I don't know doing what nonsense in the car and this
06:46:13
Carla Eliarandom person comes by pulls out you know the the the firearm and this man runs away and leaves her there cuz he shoots and she's left there injured and instead of being a protector like the
06:46:25
Carla Eliaway that I say he left her there and to find help and by the time that he came back obviously she was gone and was found uh you know wait no long question for everybody here what would you guys think is the most
06:46:37
Brian Atlasbased or Alpha thing right so you often hear like men like let's say there's a bullet right a jumping in front of the bullet like for his his girlfriend I kind of think like the most Alpha thing
06:46:49
Brian Atlasis if the man uses I'm I'm kind of meing here the woman the the man like lets the woman jump in front of the bullet to like save the man or uses the woman as like a meat
06:47:00
Brian Atlasshield to protect himself that way because as the provider as the provider in I feel like I'm more capable of like providing for our kids like if we have kids oh you're like you need I need to
06:47:13
Brian Atlassurvive I need to survive now from a purely Alpha point of view like the most Alpha thing would be like my survival's number one I can proc don't
06:47:24
Brian Atlasyou I can go procreate with another woman that's the the most like like sure maybe it's Alpha if you'll protect your girlfriend but the most Alpha thing if like there's a situation where it's like one or the
06:47:36
Brian Atlasother one of you has to like the most Alpha thing is let can we hold on the most Alpha thing bro is for you to continue on your survival so you can
06:47:47
Brian Atlascontinue passing on your seed that's Alpha you sacrifice your woman for the greater good so that you can continue on find another woman and continue like that's the that would be
06:48:00
Carla Eliathe most alha thing this is the type of broke man that I'm talking to that's the most listen this is this actually happened and that's why I say that's why I say to to women like no who you're with know who you're with CU
06:48:12
Brian Atlasthis I'm not saying I'm Alpha by the way I'm just saying that would be the most Alpha thing to sacrifice the woman so you can continue living on so you can either continue protecting and providing
06:48:22
Brian Atlasfor your children and finding a new woman to also impregnate and have seven sons with right Bible I know that
06:48:33
Brian AtlasI doubt that's in the Bible just saying I don't think it's probably not but but it would be like wouldn't it be but it would be the most Alpha move it would be the most Alpha move like you're so
06:48:44
Dustin (Carla's husband)ruthless that your own wife you will sacrifice her to continue it's just straight Darwinism I'd say the uh the Mongols would agree with you what's that the Mongols might agree with you they didn't have really any uh but but
06:48:57
Brian Atlasthere's always this talk about purly most animalistic Instinct but there is there's always talk about like the M the alpha male will take a bullet for his wife no no no no no the alpha male will
06:49:08
Dustin (Carla's husband)use his wife as a meat Shield to so he can continue living like that they probably do it an Al male would take out his gun deflect the bullet with his own
06:49:18
Holly Treatsbullets Y and there's actually a male podcast host that like freaked out over too much responsibility and had to have his girl not obviously but like had to have his girlfriend basically go save the entire night that he planned and it was just this very I don't know what's
06:49:32
Brian Atlasgoing on she it Sigma is it maybe it's Sigma um I'll tell you after show but it was just very kind of like oh my God like now obviously guys I'm I'm being kind of
06:49:43
Monica (Swedish Bella)exaggerated here this is a bit of hyperb I know a guy that you know was dating girls she wanted to have a kid and they had a kid together but he was like to her I'll give you a kid but you'll take care of
06:49:54
Brian Atlasit buers I don't know if that's I don't know if that's I don't first off I don't like the whole like Alpha Beta like ter has to take care of the kid she sleeps downstairs with the kid
06:50:05
Brian Atlasthere's like Sigma male grind set throwing your wife to the tiger okay I don't know whatever okay um all right uh let's see here let's pull up the or wait
06:50:16
Brian Atlasdid the video just cut out is that the videos are really twe get rid of a few uh just close out the one the husband material check do the next one how to it's probably stop just try just try see
06:50:28
Carla Eliaif it works okay if you're already an exclusive exive relationship should you still date other men no let me go ahead and explain what I need you to do before
06:50:39
Brian Atlasyou get into an exclusive relationship just do next just so we can I want to try to wrap up soon so next
06:50:48
Carla Eliaone next one next when we say rotational date we are not saying to sleep with them this is why having boundaries is extremely important this is also why I don't want you to get physical with a man the first couple of dates whenever I
06:51:01
Carla Eliaget asked by all you if you should disclose that you're talking to multiple men I always say yes only if they ask and the reason why I stress that you need to have class and respect yourself is so that when you tell them that you are talking to multiple men they understand that you're not sleeping
06:51:14
Carla Eliaaround you're not disrespecting yourself you're simply getting to know your options you're dating I don't know about you but intimacy for me was definitely a wife privilege kissing should be a boyfriend privilege holding hands should
06:51:26
Carla Eliaalso be a boyfriend privilege by the way whenever someone doesn't like their vocational dating and talking to multiple men because they need all of your attention they're not good options and they're not mature enough to Rel because when you're dating you're just
06:51:40
Brian Atlasdating you're just talking you're spending time together to see if it is going to lead to a relationship here we can pause it pause pause it um wait so okay first off the background music is
06:51:50
Brian AtlasEpic on that it's like it's like ensy uh uh so wait hold on okay so intimacy is a wife privilege okay yep we got that um
06:52:03
Brian Atlasso but do you genuinely believe like that someone wanting to date someone who isn't talking to and dating other people they're they're not good options are not mature enough as you said in the video for
06:52:13
Carla Eliaexample so again I think it goes back to background and age um obviously I think that what you do really probably goes into and pours into your dating life so I think that men who aren't so involved
06:52:26
Carla Eliain this wouldn't know so much so I feel like I'm speaking to men who might not that that are too busy you know working a lot long hours and doing what they need to do that they barely have any time on social media so they wouldn't know cuz this is for the girls um they
06:52:39
Carla Eliawouldn't know all of these things but you do know because you've been exposed to all of this and you know your followers also know as well so I think that for my opin in my opinion a man who doesn't want to see like you know one of
06:52:52
Brian Atlashis options like thrive in the dating Market I think that they're very in a way I guess selfish wait hold on wait hold on wait it's selfish to not
06:53:03
Carla Eliawant somebody that you're let me I think it's selfish for you not to want the girl that you're dating to thrive to no to you said Thrive right to thrive well of course
06:53:15
Brian Atlasyeah I I don't want I want the girl that I'm seeing to what's the opposite of Thrive to have a terrible experience in
06:53:24
Brian Atlasthe dating market and I'm here well like so I'm joking a little bit it's not that's not what I'm saying but no I
06:53:35
Brian Atlascertainly don't want her to be thriving because if she's thriving with the other options then I feel like that diminishes my chance of getting her I guess CU you
06:53:48
Carla Eliawould have to like step up you know step up your game like and that's that's what I'm saying if you but I'm not going to be the I I feel like here's the thing like there's going to be and people tend
06:53:59
Brian Atlasto compartmentalize this both men and women so like for example a woman might have a guy who's like really good in bed but he's broke so like and I'm not I don't think that this is what you're advocating for it at all but like you'll
06:54:12
Brian Atlashave women who will okay he is the provider guy he's this is the emotional support guy here's the guy with a really good personality he's the guy with a really good dick um and so they'll like
06:54:22
Brian Atlascompartmentalizing and so uh I recognize like there are perhaps some Dimensions where I'm not like the old like there's always there's always
06:54:34
Brian Atlassomebody better there's always somebody better right so my concern is if she's thriving in the in her with her other dating options it's just like I don't
06:54:47
Brian Atlaswant you to be thriving no thriving you don't get to thrive you can Thrive with me you can Thrive with me other men no I don't like you thriving you can't Thrive with other men you can drive with me absolutely and to some some got eyes for
06:54:59
Carla Eliayou yeah some women are are going to go for that but other women are going to be like you know what you do have a point and they're going to S they're going to do what I suggest and thus far because I am a woman's advocate I think that this
06:55:09
Carla Eliais why I say it this way and obviously you stand for for men but it really it really it really just it really just depends I
06:55:18
Brian Atlasguess okay and uh let me see here so okay oh well when it comes to the rotational dating thing so and again I think it's like
06:55:30
Carla Eliayou mind you mind you I think the reason why Dustin was okay with me rotational dating and he was like okay with it was because I would consider myself being an um I don't want to say like I was spectacular I would I would say like I
06:55:42
Carla Eliadon't want to my own porn here but I mean I'm I'm educated I had a job I'm bilingual I'm cultured and I'm I'm fun I'm fun to be around and one thing that we didn't discuss was not talking about the past right so one thing that I
06:55:55
Carla Elianoticed was whenever you talk to a man on the FR like for a Meetup and you talk about your dreams together oh my gosh if you're talking to the right man a successful minded man I would assume that both of you guys are successful
06:56:05
Carla Eliaminded men um you can go blabbing on about about your dreams and not focus so much on the past so I that's why I avoid talking about the past on first dates and and again going into this
06:56:17
Brian Atlasconversation and I you know I'd made some notes on stuff um I didn't know that you know you were a virgin So that obviously like and because when I think rotational dating I think the way
06:56:27
Brian Atlasprobably most women move is when they're rotational dating they're absolutely kissing the other guys having sex with the other guys I'm not saying all women move like that but there's definitely
06:56:40
Brian Atlasenough women especially here in California AB that are dating sleeping with multiple men to me and granted like
06:56:49
Brian AtlasI my advice for any guy if that girl is sleeping with another guy that's just a nonstarter absolutely and I agree with you and but my standard is a little
06:56:59
Brian Atlashigher my standard is well if she's even dating other men for me personally that's a non-starter too um cuz I cuz I feel like to give at least my view to give the relationship the best chance of
06:57:13
Brian Atlasflourishing and proceeding there can't be other guys in the picture like once you meet me other guys have to be a rap preferably you're just proper single when when I come into
06:57:23
Carla Eliayour life and you come into mine um so if yeah and and those are your standards and one thing that I want to say is like I'm not speaking to those women those women that are promiscuous I don't I'm
06:57:33
Carla Elianot like I'm speaking to the women who are who are wise who like know how to dominate their emotions and know like what's best for them so this really doesn't apply to women who are extremely promiscuous this really applies to women
06:57:45
Brian Atlaswho are marriage-minded which is very very different wait Nick did they have to take off or are they coming back or no there okay I think they just had to use the bathroom yeah we'll try to wrap up here pretty soon um let's pull up the
06:57:57
Carla Elianext video why not we have oh what's this one one oh how she met her husband part two go ahead Nick part two as to how I met my now husband so at this point I have two
06:58:08
Brian Atlasweeks of dates lined up for the audioos can you look at it on the oh okay go ahead keep playing we're extremely attractive and successful wait start sorry start from the beginning cuz I was talking I don't
06:58:20
Carla Eliawant part two as to how I met my now husband so at this point I have two weeks of dates lined up from the apps and all of them all of them were extremely attractive and successful but anyways the day rolls around where I have a coffee meet up with this guy
06:58:33
Carla Elianamed Dustin prerequisite for me by the way to get a date with me you cannot be from California I was only dating guys from pause it pause okay that's it can't be from California oh absolutely
06:58:43
Brian Atlasabsolutely not gotcha um and so you said you had two weeks of lined up dates and they were all attractive and successful guys okay when you say like two weeks of
06:58:55
Carla Elia (overlap)lined up dates would you like so a couple dates a week every single day or no it was like a let's say two weeks and out of those two weeks there was like
06:59:04
Brian Atlassix five dates not six five dates okay gotcha and I I mean a question for you um is it Dustin or
06:59:13
Brian AtlasDustin the why the why threw me off Dustin Dustin gotcha um did that like I think some men can be competitive in the sense like did that light a fire
06:59:25
Brian Atlasunder you like oh okay I really want to get her because she's got these other as she said had two weeks of lined updates all attractive and successful and so I knew
06:59:36
Dustin (Carla's husband)that uh any woman that I went after was going to have options okay uh competitiveness has been around since caveman there's always a guy with a bigger Rock um so it just it lit a fire
06:59:48
Dustin (Carla's husband)under me so she didn't really have time to go with other the dates because every day I would text her and say hey what are we eating tonight yeah yeah he put the work out okay all right good times
06:59:59
Brian Atlasgood times next one Nick oh my God holy I have so many notes holy what's up oh my notes what's
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Brian Atlasup I'm dying yeah yeah yeah um should wait question are you down to come back maybe we could hit on absolutely cuz I feel like this Show's gone super late so I have I have
07:00:22
Brian Atlaslike literally this could probably if we tried to get through all of them it' probably be I'm trying to I have one other question for the dating stage ah should we do it round two do it round
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Brian Atlastwo do okay I just I know some of the girl girls here probably it's getting lit so I don't want to I'm on New York time too so I'm like hourss all right yeah let's um well here
07:00:46
Brian Atlasfinal thoughts from everybody does anyone have a uh any final thoughts here before we wrap up the show if you can just make it quick go ahead I do have to say I'm really grateful for being on the
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Monica (Swedish Bella)show because it really helped me um to get perspective on a lot of things when when it comes to seeing uh relationships and just in
07:01:05
Holly Treatsgeneral guys so thank you for that yeah welcome welcome I actually just wanted to thank all of the virgins for sharing like their or The Virgins and the low
07:01:18
Holly Treatsbody count people for sharing their um experience cuz I honestly like really can't I wouldn't be able to even have context for what you're talking about without this conversation so thank you
07:01:29
Holly Treatsyou're welcome are you are you talking about him I mean her too like any of people yeah like it's just like a like like an entire like way of life that I didn't yeah Nick did you say you two
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Carla Eliayeah Nick Nick's also a virgin let's go Nick I I real quick I am so you guys are super all of you are so smart I thought that I was going to come into a different space but I'm you guys really
07:01:53
Monica (Swedish Bella)opened my eyes to saying different things and likewise thank you so much for giving perspective on a lot of things I want to say go no go ahead go ahead I just want to say thank you
07:02:02
Kenderly Ryaneveryone I know I'm a firecracker and I fly off the handle it is not just it's not just a facade it's who I am um with that said it's all love I just like to get challenged and I like to challenge
07:02:15
Kenderly Ryanpeople too so I really appreciate you guys listening to me when I apologize wait last question what do you think of white people um I prefer black men thank you very much you just D that hole no let me
07:02:27
Kenderly Ryanlet me just say about that though that was written in response to some people calling me out about my don't wor about that what do you think of white people I I don't I don't like white people no
07:02:40
Kenderly Ryanholy going to keep giving it back if you're going to keep firing white people wait so you don't like white people no don't like white people that's why I don't like myself no
07:02:54
Mason GregoireI'm just kidding I love myself oh wow the self Flo yeah it's she's the Clayton bsby of the white people hey you can be a what do you think of what do you think of men what do I think of men well
07:03:06
Kenderly Ryanthere's a reason why I get paid to degrade them for a living sweetheart what is that I do not think highly of most
07:03:14
Kenderly Ryanmen I'm also bisexual mainly gay so my if my mindset is more towards women I'm not going to have a lot to say towards men cuz I'm not pursuing them as a partner well shouldn't you even have I
07:03:26
Brian Atlasfeel like because you're not dealing with men well I mean you do deal with or have dealt with men romantically but I I feel like you could almost make a stronger argument if you're not dealing
07:03:37
Brian Atlaswith men romantically then because a lot of there's a lot of conflict in romantic relationships so a lot I I think honestly a lot of the animosity frankly
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Kenderly Ryanthat the genders have for each other stems to some degree from dating and relationships and uh let me reiterate it's the men that are disrespectful the ones that I see all
07:04:01
Kenderly Ryanthe time that are doing infidelity like completely off the charts the ones that I have dealt with so eight out of 10 men that I have dealt with I don't have
07:04:11
Kenderly Ryanrespect for my ex even though he did me dirty he was an amazing man he did everything to a because he was broke amazing man but he was still a great man he loved me he gave me everything he
07:04:23
Kenderly Ryancould uh not financially that doesn't make him less of a man he became broke 2 years after we got together and then chose not to work again that where my quum quum was I cannot handle that but
07:04:35
Kenderly Ryanhe was a great man but I can only handle so much of that unconditional love to where I'm now hurting myself we hard to watch men give up yeah like I I like love aside I think it's hard to watch
07:04:46
Holly Treatsanyone give up right so when you're in a relationship with someone and it's turning into a situation rather than something they're just going through I think that we agreed on going in a relationship you agree on something
07:04:58
Brian Atlascan't break it up like that it's not fair like if I was that to him he wouldn't have liked it wait I have a just to reiterate what do you think of
07:05:08
Brian AtlasAmerica God you went there wow into the mic same answer well no but restate the restate do this to her restate it
07:05:19
Kenderly Ryanrestate I love Philadelphia go Eagles yeah that's what I'm sticking to now were you watching the show oh yeah yeah but but I've been watching the show the whole time oh my God she she's not a big
07:05:30
Dustin (Carla's husband)fan of the US what do you think about that uh I think it's a privilege to have your own opinion about everything in the US indeed congratulations facts for your
07:05:42
Monica (Swedish Bella)there's a lot of countries where you couldn't openly talk about your own country lots of countries been murdered for such things I do have to say you are harsh but oh I'm harsh no no no no no
07:05:54
Monica (Swedish Bella)I'm saying this as a good thing you are harsh but there are certain things in my life where I needed that Bandit just ripped off and you did that for me so
07:06:04
Monica (Swedish Bella)thank you so much I don't want to get into what what it is in my head but it solved a lot of big titty thing is that well no that that was a thing that I
07:06:15
Gloria Calderonewanted that I changed my mind about a long time ago but uh what I mean is like love relationships and so on and so on so thank you for that can I can I actually add to that like I feel like
07:06:25
Gloria Calderonewhen I first saw you um you had a different energy and right now you have like a complete different energy than when you came yes a lot of things um
07:06:35
Monica (Swedish Bella)during these hours played out in my phone so in your phone yes so thank you for that God bless that's amazing it it helped me a lot yeah it's beautiful I
07:06:47
Gloria Calderonethink that a lot of the times like we make we make decisions cuz there's no self-awareness in certain things or we don't have good guidance in our especially in our childhood and throughout life and we get influenced by
07:06:58
Gloria Calderonepeople around us and we don't realize that we're like in a bad environment we start to share with different types of people and different types of mind yeah oh wait Kendra I got another thing here you had a tweet I don't know I don't know if I already brought this up I
07:07:11
Brian Atlasreally wish men appre did I read this already I really wish men appreciated when they have a good provider who's A og porn star in their presence willing to spend time with them not even that just the presence of a woman who knows
07:07:22
Brian Atlasand understands your needs it's hard to find us trust me wait so I really wish men appreciate when they have a good provider so like you so like the woman
07:07:32
Brian Atlasyeah wait into the mic if you can yes but you said that like very early on the conversation you said that you were very upset about paying for the paying the
07:07:43
Kenderly Ryanbills in your last relationship okay again he sold me a false relationship I went into it thinking he's a multi-millionaire and two years later
07:07:52
Kenderly Ryanhe's broke on the couch so and it's one thing if he yes he was you can look him up Phil Tyler freaking yeah he's a good
07:08:02
Kenderly Ryanhe's an actor he's great very nice guy but after two years he had medical issues he had constant issues and after so long a woman can only endure so much
07:08:13
Brian AtlasPhil Tyler we see Phil you were romantically involved with Phil Tyler four years he proposed last year twice beautiful blue sapphire ring
07:08:23
Brian Atlaseverything you going to bring him up so we can see please should we I don't know if it's he's gorgeous he's a great I don't know if I want to do that already might as well he's an actor well if the viewers want to see yeah we're in this
07:08:36
Brian Atlastoo deep too deep need to [Music] see so he's out there
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Brian Atlaspublic some 41 let's go yeah okay all right they're playing soon I yeah if it's like IMBD it's public information sounds like white people music it is
07:08:55
Brian Atlassounds like white people music 100% oh yeah let's go wait okay so is he hot yeah he he's handsome's
07:09:07
Brian Atlashandsome he's a decent looking man decent wait so you were you guys in a monogamous relationship main we were in monogamous we would be with women it's already like publicly known that you guys were dating no we
07:09:20
Kenderly Ryannever walked red carpets together only my red carpets he came with oh but but like I met met together like kendly Ryan has never publicly announced this this is the first I've ever publicly
07:09:32
Kenderly Ryanannounced my partner ever I had kept it under secret for four four years wait so and how did you characterize him you said great guy he's an amazing man but he's his ambition and I might his
07:09:43
Kenderly Ryanambition and me enabling him for so long broke him as a man and because he was broken as a man I couldn't help I'm sure maybe because he was broken as a man I can't fix you you have to do it yourself and if you're not willing to get a job
07:09:57
Kenderly Ryanyou're not willing to go to therapy and you're not willing to do things that I need you to do that I'm doing then that's not a fair relationship he's kind of a giga Chad not going to lie what's that like a Chad but a giga Chad looks
07:10:08
Brian Atlasmeaning he's a really bu like kind of goodl looking dude yeah is he is he I mean he's like there's this photo of him in a in a suit like he kind of looks like a
07:10:21
Brian Atlasgigachad not going Li we're not seeing him should we pull it off this him right here here F Nick Phil Tyler Google image search wait the mar the one in the suit yeah at the top yep yeah yeah that's
07:10:34
Holly Treatskind of he's kind of a gig Chad not going to lie okay I will say in real life he's not really a gig a Chad he doesn't have the wear the mark of the Chad you know
07:10:44
Holly Treatswhat I mean like put some respect put some respect on Phil Tyler's name okay I will and I will say I was like not really like cuz I'm her friend right so my natural inclination guys guys guys
07:10:57
Holly Treatsguys let her talk please yeah so I met them my natural inclination of it is kind of like hey she's my friend I've known her for a while so if this isn't is not on the up and up I'm just not for
07:11:06
Holly Treatsit yeah um I my loyalty is to her right and so but he is like he's a good-look guy he really wanted to do a lot it's just like people get into these depressed things right and it's hard to
07:11:17
Holly Treatsget out and so but I mean honestly like I know I know she is a firecracker and looks different and has tattoos and stuff like that but I've seen this girl pull really hot guys consistently and that are really good guys relationships
07:11:30
Holly Treatsand term relationship with them so I know that like she like it seems a certain way but I've seen it I've seen this happen over and over I've seen you know what I mean like good guys but he but it's you can't cosign a life like
07:11:43
Holly Treatsthat if it starts kind of going downhill because he's never going to change if you make it comfy for him you know what I mean so it's really not doing anyone a service like yeah just keep doing this right you know what I mean so it was
07:11:53
Kenderly Ryanbetter for everybody but $100,000 a year without lifting a finger kind of jealous pretty dope when you have to take care of your grandmother's
07:12:05
Kenderly Ryanrent on top of all of her bills and your own it's not that much it's really not especially cuz my grandmother has broken every w w wo 100,00 one source of
07:12:16
Brian AtlasRevenue One Source guys guys one source of Revenue that's that's pretty impressive I mean for two fingers quite
07:12:25
Monica (Swedish Bella)often is that like a I'm just kidding yeah oh never mind bab whoa whoa whoa whoa Haram Haram uh wait okay so you
07:12:37
Brian Atlasdon't like white people you don't like men what what about white men wait can you grab the microphone um you don't like white people you don't like men what about
07:12:48
Kenderly Ryanlike white men you like them two negatives make a positive what maybe it cancels each other out so my second relationship was which was not a good one he actually uh physically abused me
07:13:00
Brian Atlasto the point of almost yeah and he was white he was white and I'm not going to lie that's probably where it started sure I'm sorry to hear that happened but like I don't don't you think it's a bit like sexist or racist absolutely
07:13:13
Kenderly Ryanabsolutely but there's right now that's what I feel comfortable with and if that's what I feel comfortable and safe with that's how I feel and just to also say I don't really hate America and white people it's kind of just on my Twitter and that was literally so old
07:13:26
Kenderly Ryanago what am I going to try deny what I wrote no I'm not going to deny it I still stand by it I wrote it delete it so clearly I still stand by it but I'm not what everyone thinks I am so wait do
07:13:37
Brian Atlasyou consider uh really quick I know we're going to wrap so soon guys that going around the table really quick do
07:13:42
Gloria Calderoneyou consider yourself a feminist no no no not really no oh okay no nope no
07:13:53
Holly Treatsnegative oh okay yes no mix it up it's Chang now like Honestly though a man is my leader and I know that bothers women that's sometimes
07:14:05
Holly Treatstriggering for women to hear but like I was raised with like good male like like role models that really honestly impress me and so it's like it I do want my leader to be a man you know what I mean I don't want it to be a woman and it's cool if it is I don't have a problem
07:14:18
Holly Treatslike a fundamental issue if my if it's like I'm at a job and and my leader is a woman but it's like I would kind of like prefer it to be a man and and can can I say like for the most part when women have like leading roles it's because
07:14:31
Gloria Calderonethey live like in a very masculine energy and it's because they've grown up on survival mode MH and I think that that's why like um it's more of a male role not that we can do it but it's more
07:14:41
Mason Gregoireof like they dominant in they adopt male traits so they're extremely disagreeable they're very driven I've always got with I got I got a rap guys I got a wrap I've
07:14:52
Brian Atlaskept you guys here for way too long thank you guys this is our this is has been our longest show ever so I thank you guys I know it went did you love it did we do a good job for you or did we
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Holly Treatsthat's what I need we too boring or did we your life up I don't know if I go there rate US rate rate our performance one through 10 as 10 I'll tell you this it's your turn I'll tell
07:15:17
Brian Atlasyou this I'm going to I'm going to just like twist the knife here a little bit do it had you revealed your body count it would have been a 10 oh I'm the only
07:15:27
Monica (Swedish Bella)10 in this guy's life almost oh my God is it at 8 and a half now I'm not sure is it a five I'll live with a five I'm at five I thought I thought 10 wasn't
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Brian Atlasreal yeah it's not real but it is real for the podcast okay it could have been could have could all right um but yes thank you guys for uh staying long appreciate it guys I know we went very
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