Broke Men Should NOT Date?! She HATES America?! Husband CRASHES Show! | Dating Talk #121
Date: 2023-11-27
Duration: 7h 17m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Kenderly Ryan(guest)
SPEAKER_03Abigail(guest)
SPEAKER_04Carla Elia (overlap)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Carla Elia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Monica (Swedish Bella)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Anna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Gloria Calderone(guest)
SPEAKER_11Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_12Dustin (Carla's husband)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_14Holly Treats(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:39
QuoteHolly Treats introduces herself as full-time content creator since 2015 including OnlyFans
“hi my name is Holly treats I'm 28 years old and I live in Los Angeles and I've been a full-time content creator since 2015”
00:03:02
QuoteCarla Elia introduces herself as relationship coach who went viral for controversial stance
“hello my name is Carla Eli I'm 23 years old and I'm a relationship coach and I live in San Diego”
00:03:38
QuoteKenderly Ryan introduces herself as adult film star of 14 years who now manages performers
“I'm kenderly Ryan um I am 32 years old I am from Los Angeles California and I I'm an adult film star of 14 years and I also now started managing lovely women”
01:45:10
QuoteMonica reveals her open marriage is only open for pegging
“the thing is he's not into it right into what the pegging part um wait is it you guys got an open marriage yes only for pegging”
03:59:00
ControversyKenderly's tweets read on air: 'white people don't have culture' and 'it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men'; she stands by both
“I still stand by that very strongly. It's not racist for black women to humiliate white men. That's how I feel. It's called reparations for your ancestors.”
04:48:12
QuoteHolly refuses to share body count saying she 'never reveals her secrets'
“Holly treats I've got I put a lot out there so there's plenty of find other than body count you should put a little more out there”
04:49:30
QuoteKenderly declines to give body count number but gives range: ~50 professional scenes + 50-100 private partners, sexually active since age 13
“I've done about 50 scenes and I've had about 50 to 100 private Partners okay I became sexually active at 13”
04:52:12
QuoteAbigail shares body count of ~14 and expresses regret about not respecting herself
“it's 28 I used to not have very good respect for myself when I was younger and I wish I would have gone back in Ma and hold my younger self respect yourself”
04:58:00
QuoteMonica shares body count of 25-30 and reveals it stemmed from seeking validation due to abusive mother
“probably between 25 and 30 like I'm 40 but also I was in a bad place when most of that happened I my mom was super abusive so I just tried to find love wherever I could”
04:59:00
QuoteKenderly says body count 8 then laughs it off
“eight I'm not so interesting okay”
04:59:42
QuoteMason (SPEAKER_11) reveals body count of zero as a 27-year-old virgin
“Mason oh yeah uh zero Z zero Z hand Z Henderson okay good for you”
05:05:06
QuoteCarla rates herself as 'average' to be relatable to her followers
“I was going to say that I was average too I think I'm I'm an average and just because if I'm average and I can get this life that I have then all the other ladies can have the same thing”
05:11:42
QuoteCarla states her position on broke men: absolute — broke men at 30+ should not be dating
“absolutely broke men like financially and mentally sure... if you're 31 40 and you're still broke there's something wrong with you”
05:14:42
QuoteCarla reveals she was a virgin before marriage, which explains her high standards stance
“she was a virgin before she met her husband so I think that's why they said it because they paid attention that she was a virgin before”
05:59:36
QuoteDustin (Carla's husband) introduces himself: ex-Navy, 25, aspiring police officer
“so tell us a little bit about yourself Dustin... I'm uh 25 uh just recently got out of the military... I've been in the process for going on to the police force for about a year now uh should be going in in January”
06:07:48
QuoteDustin describes household dynamic diplomatically when asked if he's under a dictatorship
“I do not think I'm under a dictatorship I I run my household okay uh she just makes the food and uh points me in the right direction”
06:10:30
QuoteDustin describes realizing Carla was different when she refused to hold his hand on first date
“I knew I knew this was a different breed of woman”
Topics Discussed
00:00:22
Introductions and relationship statuses
Guests introduce themselves: Holly Treats (28, LA, content creator/OnlyFans since 2015), Carla Elia (23, San Diego, relationship coach, viral for 'broke men' stance), Kenderly Ryan (32, LA, adult film star 14 years/manager), Abigail (22, Missouri, personal trainer), Monica Swedish Bella (40, Sweden/LA, bikini competitor/OnlyFans/former teacher), Anna (26, Ukraine, 4 years in USA, actress/ecommerce), Gloria Calderone (31, New York, real estate investor), Mason Gregoire (27, mech engineer/powerlifter/Christian). Relationship status round follows.
00:06:26
Relationship status and dating styles round
Holly: single, dating 3 men (2 long distance), recently had someone fall off her roster. Carla: married 1.5 years, virgin before marriage. Kenderly: single 5-6 months, female FWB situationship, also sleeping with 2 men currently. Abigail: single ~1 year, sees someone 6 months (on/off). Monica: married 6 years (slid into DMs). Anna: married, met 4 years ago, married 3 months after meeting. Gloria: married within 4 months of meeting. Mason: single, virgin saving for marriage.
00:27:00
Open relationships, polyamory, and Monica's pegging arrangement
Monica reveals her marriage has an open arrangement for pegging only. Discussion of what constitutes an open marriage and emotional vs physical boundaries.
03:59:00
Kenderly's controversial tweets about white people and America
Brian reads Kenderly's tweets: 'white people don't have culture' and 'it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men'. Kenderly stands by both statements. Group debate on cultural appropriation, double standards, and whether statements are racist. Kenderly says she's half-Mexican. Monica (Polish) and others push back.
04:24:00
Body count discussion and double standards
Brian asks everyone to share body count. Holly refuses. Kenderly gives range (~50 scenes + 50-100 private, sexually active since 13). Abigail: ~14 (by graduation, mostly from 2-month phase at 16-17; regrets it). Monica: 25-30 (most from period of seeking validation due to abusive mother). Gloria: declines (husband watching). Mason: 0. Anna: declines. Debate on double standards for male vs female body count, whether men with high counts can expect low counts, and whether hookup culture is harmful.
05:03:22
Self-ratings (looks 1-10)
Ratings round. Holly: 7 average, can dress to 10. Carla: average/5 (doesn't want to say 10 to be relatable to her followers). Kenderly: 5 appearance, 10 personality. Abigail: 6. Monica: 5 (self-described). Gloria: 8. Mason: 7.5-8. Brian: 5 (gained weight, downgraded from 6).
05:08:36
Carla's viral content reviewed — 'broke men shouldn't date'
Brian reviews Carla's news articles (New York Post, The Mirror, The Sun) and multiple TikTok videos. Carla explains her position: men with provider mindset should show their resources naturally; broke men at 30+ have limiting beliefs and should focus on finances first; women are precious investments. Discussion involves all guests on whether broke men should date/marry/have children. Carla advocates being a virgin and rotational dating without intimacy.
05:46:48
OKCupid attractiveness data and male/female rating disparities
Brian shows OKCupid chart: men rate women on a bell curve while women rate 80% of men as unattractive. Discussion of why women are harsher judges of male attractiveness and how this affects dating marketplace dynamics.
05:50:00
Dating logistics: men working 60-70 hours, submission, and love languages
Discussion of whether women can handle men working very long hours for high income. Monica says she needs her man at home. Carla says women should have their own life alongside a wealthy man. Love language discussion: Monica and Anna both say acts of service/cooking are how they express love to husbands. Brian and Mason discuss appreciating wives' cooking regardless of quality.
05:59:36
Husband Dustin crashes the show
Carla's husband Dustin (ex-Navy, 25, aspiring police officer) joins the panel mid-show. Describes meeting Carla on Bumble, first coffee date (she's allergic to alcohol), spontaneous Denny's and meeting her family. He showed her his finances/credit score/savings on third date. Says 'I knew this was a different breed of woman' when she refused to hold his hand on first date. Describes household as: 'I run it, she makes the food and points me in the right direction.'
06:08:00
Rotational dating debate
Brian and Carla debate rotational dating concept. Brian prefers undivided romantic attention immediately. Carla clarifies rotational dating means spending time with multiple men without intimacy or kissing. Dustin confirms he was fine with it because Carla was clearly not being promiscuous. Monica shares she had no idea how to date after an 11-year relationship ending and found long-distance courtship via Skype valuable.
06:39:00
Protective husband video (Carla's TikTok)
Brian plays Carla's TikTok about asking a man what he would do if a fight broke out — is he the type to pull out his phone or fix it? Dustin responds to the video about himself, saying he would assess the situation for his family's safety and take video evidence for police if appropriate. Carla says knowing her husband would protect the family is the most attractive thing.
Transcript
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03:48:12
Carla Eliaa really sad thing like I mean personally for me like where where are they like mentally like this is this is really sad but I do know one of so one
03:48:24
Kenderly Ryanof my sugar daddies who is also a sub of mine he had he had an upbringing with a older woman who abused him but she abused him domination wise so that's why he comes
03:48:37
Kenderly Ryanfrom that fetish cuz he feels like he can somehow get the power back even though he's submitting it's don't ask oh don't ask if you're a sub or you're in the
03:48:47
Brian Atlasindustry you already know what I mean by this it is it's it's like where I think boredom also I think if you boredom no and I'll tell you why so I have a guy I
03:48:58
Holly Treatscan't say his name on here because like I grew up we grew up together we grew up together and this kid is a is from like a very wealthy family and we're the same age it's not like a weird sugar baby
03:49:09
Holly Treatsthing it's just like I know him and I didn't like originally in school didn't take him for being a sub but now that we've gotten older and like got back and tou he's like oh my God I like want you
03:49:20
Holly Treatsto like yell at me and I want you to like do all this this like degrading stuff to him and I really didn't like take him as that kind of guy but I can tell you this guy has probably only yes
03:49:31
Holly Treatsmen around him and his life is probably very one noted and kind of like good idea sir that sounds great sir and he's like zero variety from that and I think that sometimes these rabbit holes are like wow that's the one thing in my life that I don't have
03:49:45
Holly TreatsI mean I have heard of that is like these men jordanford was open with it he liked both though like and a lot of the times it's not like they just like one right they're like hey I'm having a day where I want to feel this
03:49:56
Carla Eliaway hey I'm having a day where I want to be with my wife right like it's like like I was going to say like maybe just get a Latina like have you guys the Latina woman oh yeah cuz the Latinas are
03:50:07
Brian Atlasspicy they're good to you oh the Bowing video hold on no no no no gentlemen get yourself an Asian woman yes oh God I'm gonna get cancelled okay I don't know
03:50:17
Brian Atlasabout Latinas Latinas are Fey yeah uh sure let's do the Bowing the Bowing video Let's watch the Bowing video If You Can scroll it a little bigger
03:50:29
Monica (Swedish Bella)Nick that's yeah switch us over to the other side yep I like that it says register and
03:50:38
Brian Atlasdownload boom look at that oh yeah boom huge huge wait watch watch watch watch look she's attentive oh there's a shirt yep fold it good well
03:50:50
Brian Atlasdone okay all right oh going to the kitchen look at that oh food's ready is ready to go boom look at look at the attentiveness look at the oh okay and it's I've seen this girl they just
03:51:01
Holly Treatsdid this for the video yeah it's obviously doing she's not doing this every day for her man I literally did that for my ex I want a bow look boom
03:51:11
Carla Elialook at the bow that's down B down for the I literally did that for my go ahead car go ahead the thing is when you okay this is going to be super controversial but the
03:51:24
Carla Eliathing is like men you think that you want that and like think that you want that it's not that I think it's that I know that you I I know wait till it
03:51:35
Brian Atlashappens go ahead go ahead Carla go ahead but y'all get so bored you can get I love boring you get no you think boring you listen listen I'm not going to be
03:51:47
Carla Eliagas here verying you're very convincing wife from wife will be you guys can agree with me listen so my so I give that
03:51:59
Carla Eliabecause I love okay I naturally love doing that for my man like he comes home food's ready not the bow try the bow give him a try the bow once he be like what are you doing like I like the B
03:52:10
Carla Eliahe's coming your husband's cominging soon he he's coming perfect so I I like to serve my man like you can ask him I never let him get up like I'm the one like serving him cuz I I like doing that
03:52:21
Carla Eliabut there are times there are times there are times we like well what do you want to do today well do you not have anything planned today the moment that I don't have anything planned like either like doing chores going out to the
03:52:32
Carla Eliagetting groceries doing things he's like but what what else is there to do so it's like there there has to be a type of balance and obviously this is just like my personal experience but again
03:52:43
Carla Elialike you think you want that but sometimes there's just things that you get bored and then you there's times that it happens where like men cheat and you and you don't want that to happen so
03:52:54
Carla Eliait's like us as well like as me as a wife I'm just like okay how do I keep the balance because boredom is like an actual thing from that you think you want that but you really don't boring so what do you what are you suggesting hold
03:53:07
Gloria Calderoneon what are you suggesting are you suggesting that I'm not that you intentionally stir up drama and the relationship is that what you're Sugg it's more of like when you do it not because it's a chore but you do it
03:53:18
Gloria Calderonebecause you love that person and you want to just serve him um cuz I I do I out of experienced myself too like there has been moments where like I just as soon as I got married I just wanted to play that role wife and I turned into a
03:53:30
Gloria Calderonemaiden I have a business so like and my daughter does dance so like my I was going crazy and it started to get to a point where it wasn't even appreciated anymore because it was like already done I will always
03:53:41
Brian Atlasapprciate you used to it how is deep I will always appreciate it happens it's very natur what's your take go ahead well I think it's all personal because uh I think some guys do not get bored of
03:53:54
Annait some guys really appreciate it and they really appreciate the care about them because like I'm four years in the relationship and every single time like I do love to cook like I do I always cook for my husband and uh every single
03:54:05
Carla Eliatime I cook she's always he's always like surprised and he's always like appreciative yeah yeah and and I like I said it's a it's a person it's a personal thing and it also depends on culture so I think maybe both maybe my
03:54:17
Carla Eliahusband cuz he did have kind of like a more chaotic growing up like he didn't have what we have now so it's all very new to him and it's it's a beautiful thing like building that together but um
03:54:28
Carla EliaI I think yeah it it there's no such thing as too submissive there's no such thing as Len okay okay listen there there's
03:54:38
Carla Eliaanother thing like also men don't just men there's it varies person to person but men who actually respect you they want you to say no they want you to have that boundary because then that means that they can't get away with whatever you want them to do and there's respect
03:54:51
Brian Atlasand they love that you don't want a doormat but you want like there's no such you become there's no such thing as too submissive I would I definitely disagree I think that being submissive
03:55:03
Carla Eliato the right man is a beautiful thing and it's it's a beautiful thing to experience and I think men you know deserve that treatment if you know if they treat their woman right of like coming home and they're being you know food made and being you know all those
03:55:15
Carla Eliathings but the thing is like there are some men that just get bored and it varies it varies person person to person there's and then I'll move on go ahead I'm I have a lot of attitude and I'm a
03:55:28
Monica (Swedish Bella)spicy person but there's nothing more rewarding for me than please my husband mhm you're actually agree that's your love language I that's my love language is to service that that sounded so
03:55:40
Monica (Swedish Bella)horrible but I love cooking I love taking care of my husband I love getting him stuff I love popping his pimples I love putting on like I I just I like it
03:55:51
Monica (Swedish Bella)because that's the way I show love and if my husband says he doesn't want to eat my food there is nothing worse for me like Swedish meatballs are not it I'm
03:56:00
Monica (Swedish Bella)just saying I panic because I feel like I did something wrong as his wife and he's angry at me and this is and that's how he like punishes me it's like either the he doesn't talk to me because he
03:56:13
Mason Gregoireknows I hate it or he doesn't want to eat my food and that drives me insane I don't know I feel like if my wife made me food I'm going to eat it no matter what I think like yeah she's no I'll
03:56:25
Monica (Swedish Bella)tell her I'll tell her if it's do no no I'll tell her if it's not Las he tell me dog the lasagna was okay i' rather have you tell me it's dog no I like I'll tell you okay this is not the best
03:56:37
Mason Gregoirefood you ever made poison I like you are you trying to poison what the but I'm still going to eat it because like at the at the end of the day I'm going
03:56:45
Mason Gregoireto come home I worked really hard and so I'm supporting my wife so she can do her J job can care of the home got she she
03:56:56
Monica (Swedish Bella)so she can do her job which is to take care of the home so I was just going to Chuck the baby home oh God I'll take it but yeah it's very reward actually going
03:57:07
Brian Atlasto CH you you got a good catch ready yeah you're an athlete too you want to try to catch us I'll catch this m wait can can I have you hold the
03:57:16
Brian Atlasmicrophone hold okay here we go okay can you throw it's not that far I my throw is kind of pae way too
03:57:26
Brian Atlasdifficult I know what's the best I don't know what the best football do I give it do I give it a little twist football yeah yeah yeah just do do I do a little uh you know how on the football they give it a little spiral yeah wait
03:57:39
Monica (Swedish Bella)did you used to be a quarterback no I used to be a receiver all right I think it's more I'm not going to do a twist I'm going to thing yeah there you go that was
03:57:48
Brian Atlasbeautiful with baby would be my baby if I had a baby perfect oh you like yes my preference is black men yes okay all right there you have it folks uh let's pull up the is there another tweet is there one more tweet then we got to get
03:58:01
Brian Atlasinto some Carla's videos I know I haven't wait uh I haven't lost respect for any oh my gosh this is crazy wait this is not that wait did you Nick are you he's
03:58:13
Holly Treatsjust looking at my did you just click a random tweet dude no is there a no huh what did I say that going off on people Prett usual
03:58:24
Holly Treatshe was talking about like like sketing on your grandma's oh my gosh and I was like wait I don't even know how we like got there by way this seems like a Call
03:58:35
Kenderly Ryanof Duty chat room now you know you know how we're talking about how with age we get better my grandma has been working out the gym for a whole year and I never seen a perkier ass on an old woman her
03:58:46
Kenderly Ryanass went from saggy to up and fat and I'm like what the lady get out of the gym she is 82 years old and she has better ass I am all about old people getting in the she gave me the
03:58:58
Mason Gregoiremotivation to go more one of the one of the most amazing videos I've ever seen in my life was some like 93-year-old man deadlifting 405 lbs for reps I have
03:59:11
Brian Atlasa speaking it's kind of going to be ironic since you have that oh I see a lot of stuff all right pull it up oh no uh oh here we go Kendra white people
03:59:22
Brian Atlasdon't have culture OMG haha I can't right now Wht white white people literally stole everything from someone of color to adapt to them stop racist
03:59:33
Brian Atlasstop next tweet I still stand by that very strongly oh you okay it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men God you people need a brain I still stand by that too stand by that absolutely it's called reparations for
03:59:46
Brian Atlasyour ancestors that's how I feel care I don't know if I want to make this conversation about I'm also not fully white so I will put that out there I'm
03:59:55
Kenderly Ryanhalf Mexican can you scoot the mic that way a little bit wait so okay why people don't have culture they've stolen everything from another
04:00:06
Kenderly Ryanculture so yes maybe Britain but America no we've stolen it from everybody else Europe what about Europe I just okay
04:00:15
Kenderly RyanEurope I meant Britain Europe sorry no Europe in general I'm I'm talking about America are are polish PE do you consider Polish people white I'm polish
04:00:27
Brian AtlasI'm talking about America maybe I should have specified no but you said white maybe I should have specified it in my tweet but but okay but so white people in America came from various European
04:00:38
Kenderly Ryancountries some of which for example some there though who was here first the Native American exactly wait so what do you I'm not sure we stole their land and created our own
04:00:50
Kenderly Ryanculture out of it what happens everywhere that's happens everywhere commenting on that that's but
04:01:00
Kenderly Ryanyou're but no but we're okay you said why people don't have culture M I believe in that still that's my opinion okay listen I so you talking about cultural appropriation
04:01:13
Kenderly Ryanis that what you're talking about kind of I'm talking about that that's also a directed tweet at somebody again it's not something I just thought of no but you say you still stand by yes because it was a person who was sitting
04:01:24
Kenderly Ryanthere calling me racist going off on me with a bunch of slander all for what because apparently I'm racist for what what did you say I don't know I'd love to know that answer well probably that statement in and of itself white people
04:01:37
Kenderly Ryandon't have culture literally for white that's against white people if that's racist then they can get like stop being it's racist to white people good hope it
04:01:46
Gloria Calderoneis you hope that this yes I don't care people are so godamn sensitive nowaday get over it okay so would it be okay for so would it be okay to start talking about like Spanish people or calling
04:01:59
Gloria CalderoneMexicans like certain names or calling black people like are you if you're Spanish and you're doing it that's I don't like the double standard of like I'm not say standard you could be racist to white people but you can't be racist to black people I think that that's very
04:02:11
Gloria Calderonelike she's right double standard she's right she's right in your opinion so to my opin anybody different anybody's opinion like F this is my opinion I'm standing bu it nothing you guys say we're going to change it so you think
04:02:23
Gloria Calderonewhite people don't have a right to be respected I didn't did I say that did I say that did I say is very listen I'm not white and I and I'm
04:02:35
Gloria Calderonelike I'm not white either I'm super Latina I mean you're not La Sor my last name is Alvarez yeah but you're not you don't you don't have the culture either it doesn't matter matter but you don't you don't walk around with the culture either you don't know what I do outside
04:02:47
Gloria Calderoneof here CH you don't know me have no idea who I am this is a thing though and I don't mean to be disrespectful but I think comment is very dis but there's white people here on this table and did
04:02:58
Gloria CalderoneI direct that at any one of these people you want to St I stand by it yes that's disrespectful America has its own culture cool we we have our own culture we're all mixed again this was not
04:03:11
Kenderly Ryandirected to anyone this table directed to a person who was already attacking no but you said you stand by the statement on its own keep doing the Circle cuz I don't have to I'm going to keep my answer the same it's not going to change you guys can keep saying what you want
04:03:22
Brian Atlasit's not going to change but can you expl I just object as a white person as the as the representative of the white race white I object I object to the
04:03:33
Gloria Calderoneassertion that white people don't have culture in fact I think white people have created a great many things like country music like things they beautiful it originated from black people it
04:03:46
Carla Eliaorigin from black people like to know why why I think that nice try vodka okay well there's there's a medium here so because oh this is going to be so bad but one of the reasons why
04:03:59
Carla EliaI decided to marry like a white guy a country man was boy because because of the I guess quote unquote I could see like the no culture thing because my culture is heav and I'm not saying that
04:04:11
Carla EliaI'm against my culture at all but I think that part of the white culture is to be more Progressive more open-minded more understanding more open and I loved that openness so much because in my
04:04:22
Carla Eliaculture you see that there's already so many roles being played and I love my culture I'm not saying that but I wouldn't want to marry into it just be and that's why I married a a you know a
04:04:33
Carla Eliamore accepting country more you know with the American beliefs because my husband does have you know this American belief system of the land of the free what what not um and that's something
04:04:44
Carla Eliathat I wanted to go into instead of you know my my original Mexican culture so I do agree in in a way that that no culture could be its own culture of openness of open-mindedness and maybe
04:04:57
Carla Eliayou know and and that could this could just be from my own personal beliefs of what I've seen with like white men that they tend to be so well with my experiences they're like oh my gosh like
04:05:08
Carla Eliauh what that that's amazing that you have parties so often that you guys have posadas that you guys have like tradition and I love that because with within when I was dating my own race it was like expected the woman had to do
04:05:19
Mason Gregoireall these things and it's an expectation that's a great point to make I think uh America is such a good place to live because it brings all of those people of tons of different races and says you
04:05:32
Mason Gregoirehave something to contribute to this great experiment I want to be able to appreciate Asian cultures I want to be able to appreciate African cultures I want to be able to appreciate Latin American cultures and I want to ad adopt
04:05:44
Mason Gregoirethe things I enjoy about all of those and I can bring it into my own and then I can express that in my own unique way and show that I am a unique individual and I think that's something that has
04:05:55
Mason Gregoireonly been promoted in this country I think that's that's one of the many things that makes America the greatest country on Earth yeah cuz we're so mixed
04:06:04
Monica (Swedish Bella)I think also I'm from I'm from Poland and I was raised super super Catholic uh my parents my mom was a helicopter parent which was
04:06:14
Monica (Swedish Bella)not good for me uh but I think a lot of this comes from a lot of countries I know Mexico for example Catholic there as well so I think when you when you're
04:06:24
Monica (Swedish Bella)brought up Catholic that that is also why you kind of want to get out of it because my mom and my grandparents were so strict I was beat like my mom would
04:06:35
TTS/Donationsbeat the living out of me because that's that's part of a culture so shutler donated $100 there are studies that show a large
04:06:46
TTS/Donationsnumber of sex workers of induced racisms to sort her out her own problems before throwing Stone from her glass house let me address this first of all I
04:06:58
Kenderly Ryanjust lost 40b just wait for another two months I'm going to look way better than you think secondly I'm not throwing any type of stones at a glass house wait what I'm uh let's wait a little bit longer oh
04:07:10
TTS/Donationswe got grid one coming G One Motorsports donated one $100 how is this Gil in Mimi still talking America's culture saved the world's culture backto back World War
04:07:22
Kenderly RyanChampions back to back World War Champs today where tubby can run her money maker Listen sweetheart you will never make the money I have you're not sitting here on a podcast because you're so great sit down stay behind your
04:07:35
Kenderly Ryankeyboard little warrior we don't care to hear it I don't know Mozart was pretty dope I mean the whole herpes thing's a little like outdated again more people have it talking about the I'm
04:07:46
Kenderly Ryanback on the whole C white people not having a culture thing I mean well and also back to that that's also why I don't date white people I don't agree with their culture I don't agree with their standards wait what do you mean you don't agree you don't date white
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Kenderly Ryanpeople because you don't agree with their culture what do you mean I don't I disagree with yes I don't want to be in America I don't want to be an American I don't want to be here I didn't choose to be here what do you mean I didn't choose to get born I didn't choose to
04:08:09
Carla Eliabe born in America by my own parents well what oh my actually want to talk a little bit about this mindset because I think this this is not personal okay uh but I think that this type of mindset is
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Carla Eliaalso like poison to a lot of younger Generations like gen Z I'm seeing a lot of them be forget forget what living in a third world country is like and again
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Carla EliaI I didn't realize this until you know going back to college of how much power the United States has just with the military how much influence we have and I'd much rather be here and not have to
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Mason Gregoirelike walk outside my door and there be like fire bombs and or a war zone because you know that that's what it's like in third world countries so I I actually lived in a third world country for all of my high school oh and uh
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Mason Gregoirewhere did you live if I'm uh I lived in Morocco oh um yeah so I did my high school with the all Moroccan guys and uh
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Mason Gregoireyeah it's the goal for everybody in the world is to get to America that is like that is the cuz is the most opportunity it it will provide them with the best
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Mason Gregoirepossible life and I think people in America don't understand how good they have it yeah and I mean my so wait you don't you object to having been
04:09:27
Kenderly Ryanborn in the US I'm confused there's so many yes my family is like my mom's side of the family is all in Scotland Ireland beautiful places beautiful I'll let you
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Brian Atlasguys come in in a sec no I have not been to other countries as much as I wish I have I've been to a few yes but you said you don't date white people because you don't agree with the culture and then
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TTS/Donationsyou also hold on Truth bomb donated $100 the reparations argument is such trash Africans sold other Africans especially when the reparations argument
04:10:03
Brian Atlascomes from the common non-slave state of CA America is the best Nation on the planet the one the one instance let me just address this the one instance where I think reparations are acceptable is for people who are left-handed well let
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Brian Atlasme say lefted I'm left-handed I being godamn I suffered for years in the
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Brian Atlaselementary school with the my I think I I deserve reparations from from the state and federal government I want reparations as a left-handed person go
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Kenderly Ryanahead I was being facius I thought it was funny that was it I didn't actually mean that guy damn statement I don't mean that it's F it's been what over 100 years since black people have been enslaved there's no reason
04:10:50
Kenderly Ryanforget the reparations thing let's stick to the the you said that you don't date white people because you don't agree with white people's culture yes from the men that I have had pursuing me and their families their backgrounds what
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TTS/Donationsthey believe in I don't agree with the last guy wait the last guy you dated was he white nope and but nicho the UND donated
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TTS/Donations$100 every time Abigail looks to her right she looks like she's watching someone scratch their ass and smell their finger Abby good luck you're
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TTS/Donationsadorable Kendra are you sure your last name isn't deito did you ever response to Nickelodeon no that's just stupid why would I
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Holly Treatsno I'm not giving it no he doesn't deserve energy wow sorry dito is a pretty big deal would he's my uncle I don't know if I'd smash but I'd respect you know I
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Holly Treatsdon't know if I'd smash him but I would be like hey you're you're dope like just like Free Hug at least you know BJ no no BJ just a free hug yeah uh okay I don't Express gratitude like that
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Brian Atlaswait so okay before I have you guys come in I know you guys want to come in um I'm just trying to get a little more understanding explanation of the whole white people uh you don't date white people because you don't agree with the white culture and that you don't like
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Kenderly Ryanthat you were born here in the US or something something um it's not I don't like it it's that I would I don't want which country would you rather be in I don't okay hold on let me get this clear
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TTS/Donationsbecause I Dark Knight donated $99 oh I can only imagine how poorly she treated her man narly Quinn is ugly
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Brian Atlasinside and out I hope she finds peace one day you have awoken their wrath it yeah I must have hurt someone theames
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Brian Atlaswho hurts you computer a you guys keep talking um okay go ahead with your point um what what were you asking me I mean well you said you don't take white people because you don't agree with
04:12:53
Brian Atlaswhite culture and also you I don't want to misquote you but you said you kind of sounded like you were displeased that you were born in the US so this is the thing I have to take my time to talk
04:13:04
Kenderly Ryansure these are very old tweets and by old I mean a few months ago before I was di they're old but it's you it's you said you stand by them though yes you got okay the let me know when I can talk
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Kenderly Ryanno go ahead go ahead okay you're good go ahead my point being is right now I am not happy with the way America is I'm not happy being here I don't know what other country I want to go to I've
04:13:27
Kenderly Ryanlooked into a few my point being is I don't like the way the men are being raised here that's come to me and that I go to also the ones who I've dated the ones I've pursued I don't like it that's
04:13:38
Kenderly Ryanmy preference if I could move if I could move to Canada or somewhere bit safer where I do my homework and I know I want to go there and I'm trying
04:13:48
Brian Atlastoet Canada by far worse Canada is a big L but where would okay um I mean if you don't like it here you could you could leave right yeah that's my plan once I have all my money saved up and I have I have you said you make six figures a
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Kenderly Ryanyear without lifting a finger just from that one s take care of my family I have a house I have a I have a lot of things in my life I have to make that money to live up to my standard truth bomb donated $100 you guys come in after
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TTS/Donationsstart about life today is there are men out there giving those 304 money every month you can lose all the weight you think you need to you're an awful person
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Kenderly Ryanon the inside you should leave us you're literally the only person to ever call me a bad person in my life yeah she's not a bad person I got to I got to step in she's really not a bad person guys
04:14:35
Kenderly RyanI'm not going to sit here and say what I do in my free time but what I do is not what bad people do and it has nothing to do with charity work and like that so go ahead yourself you probably don't do a quarter of what I do charity work what do you mean no I said I'm not going to talk about charity work
04:14:48
Brian Atlasand like that other things I do Pablo Escobar I mean he was very yeah I know oh my God you can't yeah that's what I'm saying it has nothing to it up let's let's start with you and then you
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Annago ahead so go ahead with your well first of all I wanted to know more why you think that because like America is multinationality country and you
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Annamentioned that your relatives from Scotland and Island do you realize that also that those are white people yes like you can say still out of America again I meant when I said that
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Annaoriginally it was America okay but America it's internationality country like I'm from Ukraine she's from Poland she's Jewish my family is Jewish like
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AnnaLatina she's Latina I mean America it's like mixed there are so many French there are so many German there are so many people you I know I'm one of them and I don't want to date somebody in my bracket yeah but they're so they're so
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Gloria Calderonedifferent so there's white Italian there's white Irish there's white Germans and they all have their own culture still within the US especially for us with Poland my family immigrated
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Holly Treatsfrom Poland but like our families are very different and it's like they did I mean her mom's not trying to marry her off to alen like a weird ass yeah it's a different you know culture religion but
04:16:07
Monica (Swedish Bella)what I want to say is like there is no country in the world and I've traveled all over Europe I'm I was born in Poland I lived in Poland I lived in Sweden I've been all over Europe I've been around
04:16:19
Monica (Swedish Bella)the world there is no country in the world that lets you do what you can do that you can do here so if you move to Sweden making money the way we're making
04:16:30
Holly Treatsmoney forget it and they will take half of your income 64% wow taxes that's ridiculous straight up they do give you Universal healthare but they take a lot and it's
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Holly Treatstravels to Norway to go get Healthcare in to pay for healthare in North Norway yeah it's it is it is it I mean I understand America is maybe not great
04:16:55
Monica (Swedish Bella)like there are things happening that are maybe not super great but you know what we're we're a huge country and the we're mixed and I think if we just you know work together it can be good and the bad
04:17:07
Monica (Swedish Bella)things that are happening right now yes they're maybe not super great but you know what I still love it here and I'm so grateful that I had the chance and that America told me that yes you can
04:17:19
Monica (Swedish Bella)stay here and work here because the people I have met here are the most amazing people and most amazing friends and family that I could ever wish for so
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Monica (Swedish Bella)also I mean I'm so sorry I just got very emotional um so yeah I'm just grateful to be here it's the Team America World Police but so I think I think the reason why it's so
04:17:42
Carla Eliapressing thing and why a lot of people get so like frustrated I think us who like to live in America who love to live in America is because we're seeing social media pull us apart when in reality we agree on this on the fact
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Carla Eliathat we we've seen I guess both sides of the coin of like what the consequences of living in a third world country and when you come to America it's like fresh air a breath of fresh air we always we used to joke about this but um I think
04:18:06
Carla Eliait it makes sense now whenever we would cross like from TJ to the United States you could tell immediately like just on the roads like it's all Rocky and like bumpy and scary and then you just like cross the border and it's like GD One
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TTS/DonationsMotorsports donated $100 scaling Mimi your wallet is not that big keep selling that fat back and you might get there before you run out of people who will buy it I retired at
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TTS/Donations45 and paid six figures in taxes you're welcome sweetheart do I need to your dad and give a child he actually loves I will I'll do
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Brian Atlasit I will just want to point out grid One Motorsports it's you apostrophe re I think right did I get you you are yeah but to to finish my point to finish
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Carla Eliamy point I think that a lot of us are frustrated especially myself who is like a you know a genzer and I'm seeing so much poison and these mindsets of like I want to get out of America I'm like have you ever lived in another country that is not America can we stop being so
04:19:07
Carla Eliaprivileged and so ungrateful and entitled so at least for me because my family comes from like they did they sacrificed to just come here and give me the opportunities that I had I was the first you know first generation I'm sure
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Carla Eliathat there's multiple of us that were first generation so I think that that's why it unravels a lot of like mixed feelings because those who have lived in poverished countries maybe see how great
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Gloria Calderoneit is here I think that that has to do a lot with growing up um privileged and I think Americans don't understand how privileged they are comparison to the world um and then they victimize
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Gloria Calderonethemselves what about those who have been homeless and in jails and like me I mean listen I'm not going to talk about my life but I also didn't really grow up with both my parents but you're not the one saying that you don't like
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Gloria CalderoneAmerica like I am have you ever tried to be homeless in a third world country CU I'm not going there I said listen like I I didn't have I didn't I wasn't given the best card like dealt with the best
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Gloria Calderonecards in life and I have a very successful business I raised my daughter have her she's a like a full-time Dan dancer and this is not to glorify myself but I think that the struggles that I've
04:20:14
Gloria Calderonebeen through in my life is what has brought me to where I am in my life so I cannot I'm sorry but I had a daughter at 18 years old her father lived in Switzerland my mom is not really big
04:20:26
Gloria Calderonehelp she needs help from me actually so I cannot like feel sorry for somebody if you are functioning like a perfect functioning adult you should not be
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Kenderly Ryanhomeless I'm sorry I just can't I wasn't a perfect functioning adult at the time I was not I'm sorry but when you have trauma in your life which I have had too I we all have absolutely and everyone deals with it differently and you know
04:20:48
Kenderly Ryanwhat I would have loved to not exactly and I did I was 19 years old and I was homeless I am now 32 I have my own house my own car I pay all my own bills so it
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Carla Eliatook me a while but I got there I'm so sorry but auditioning for Play Hold on but I'm so sorry but auditioning for Playboy at the age of 19 was privileged there's so many people I I wanted that
04:21:09
Kenderly Ryanopportunity I would have loved priv I've been a model since I was 4 years old so yeah it is a privilege I worked very hard to get there since 4 years old I've been modeling commercial sorry sorry the Yeah final
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Mason Gregoirepoint and then I we'll move on the issue is is that if you were dealt that garbage hand in any pretty much any other country in the world to say that too yeah you are stuck there for the
04:21:33
Mason Gregoirerest of your life I I know I know many many families that my family personally knows that they are stuck in their garbage life until they die and until
04:21:44
Mason Gregoiretheir kids die and their kids die and their kids die unless until the king of that country is no longer there it's yeah yeah in Sweden when you get a job
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Monica (Swedish Bella)when you get that job that's where you work until they carry you out in a body bag the end well iess you don't have a war here yeah mhm yeah exactly
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Gloria Calderoneyeah we kind of the point is that there's a lot of opportunity in this country there's I I just have to say there's a lot of opportunity in this country that a lot of people wish they had that we're not taking advantage of
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Gloria Calderoneso don't Vic don't victimize yourself that's it I'm not never was I'm very proud of my accomplishments I'm not talking about you I'm not bashing you I'm talking about American General they don't understand felt Direct that's why
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Kenderly Ryanwell you took it that way but I wasn't talking to you I was saying I should have said I'm apologizing I'm sorry I took it that way I saw and I felt that way okay well I'm sorry you felt like that I took a mil sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry I didn't mean to press that
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Monica (Swedish Bella)Buton it's the perfect I'm sorry I'm sorry watch you ain't lying though a thank you you ain't lying though who you she's hot
04:22:53
Brian Atlasoh sure I'm just saying okay you are I you're pretty okay let's pull up twitch then we need to get two things out of the way then we have some videos from Carla here and then your husband's going
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Brian Atlasto join us here in just a sec bust the nut no what what
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Monica (Swedish Bella)field holding a nut oh my God scoll that was out of pocket he was like I was out of poet coming in like wait
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Holly Treatsquestion for everybody does body count matter starting with you
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Holly Treatsum I wouldn't say body count but hygiene matters like more than body count like hygiene yeah I hygiene's cuz honestly like I'm
04:24:29
Holly Treatssitting there and I'm like okay if you've had sex with like seven girls versus 15 girls is that seven people really that many people in in terms of
04:24:39
Holly Treatsmy insecurities and anxiety answer is no but what I am concerned about is my health and safety and so if I'm okay with those things then it's okay yeah well let me actually I'm going to
04:24:51
Brian Atlasreframe the question do you because I think TP I think women also can care or some women do care about male promiscuity or mes body count but I do think this typically stems more so from
04:25:02
Brian AtlasMen's preferences and I do think men tend to be a bit more vocal about wanting this so do you object to men caring about body count do you think
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Holly Treatsit's why should you care it's insecure or what's your I think that if you're like in a situation like you are I think you should absolutely care because you
04:25:24
Holly Treatsare prioritizing that factor in your life as well but I think that if you're not a virgin then you absolutely like do not have the right to care and I don't oh you don't have the rights you don't
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Holly Treatshave the right to care like I I'm sorry like unless if you're putting it up there as your biggest priority to maintain that in your life then people and also people lie right like okay if it makes you feel better if I've only
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Holly Treatshad sex with three guys in my life yes I've only had sex with three guys in my whole life I'm not you know it's it's one of those things where just lie Li well does anybody here agree with what she just said that that sure if you're
04:25:59
Brian AtlasMason over here who's also a virgin then you're totally entitled to want that in a partner but if you aren't a virgin or you maybe have had a I don't know
04:26:08
Brian Atlashandful or perhaps plenty of sexual partners that that is somehow that's a hypocritical or a double standard or you should not have that preference for wanting a woman who with a low body
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Kenderly Ryancount or who's a virgin does anybody agree with with that I feel like I agree to some extent more of like if their okay for instance if their body counts
04:26:31
Kenderly Ryanor 60 but the girl's 30 the guy's 50 the girl's 60 and he's like I don't know about that one it's like dude you can't really like you can't talk on that it should be equal that's where I agree on
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Kenderly Ryanthat um you know the whole miles on a car we're not Cars we're not diners let's not do that please we're humans like it's not like our vaginas get
04:26:52
Brian Atlaslooser over the time no we can actually make it tighter um well I mean in terms of the car thing I mean I think people use analogies frequently uh I mean you're I'm sure
04:27:04
Brian Atlasyou're familiar with what analogies are right no I'm a complete idiot no I'm not trying to be condescending but like being aart no but like an analogy is it's a comparison between two things typically
04:27:16
Brian Atlasfor the purpose of explanation or clarification so if a guy uses some car reference or something he's not he's not like doing that to be like women suck
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Brian AtlasI'm comparing you to a car it's just it's a common rhetorical tool used to better clarify or explain your position abely but doesn't it kind of make you think that if a car has been run down to
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Brian Atlas250 Mi you should either trade it in and get a new one or get rid of it isn't that what men and isn't that as a person you think of that when you have a car that's a logical thought that's what we're T to do I personally don't use a
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Kenderly Ryancar comparison typically in this exactly but a lot of people do so my point of that is like when a car hits a certain Peak get rid of it that's not fair we wouldn't do that to a man we are always
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Kenderly Ryansupport okay not me I wouldn't do that to a man how about that for me shutler donated
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TTS/Donations$100 12 Partners who have oh my God J me matters this is why being a sex worker if filthy for fat-faced Sally what side
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Kenderly Ryaneffects has the valre given you sweetheart if you want me this bad email me kenderly rprc I promise I'll fulfill all yes you clearly need it you keep
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Brian Atlasfcking talking to me he's a urologist oh I have a sp I don't want to be rude or anything they're the freakiest people I've ever met him as a doctor he don't worry he only sees penis
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Holly Treatshe's urologist it doesn't matter you as a doctor shouldn't be talking like that that's really unprofessional listen he sees a lot of dicks let's give him a pass I don't think I've heard real doctors describe the human body that way because I don't
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Brian Atlasthink they think about human body the same way listen we all need to blow off steam in our own ways I don't think doctors get this triggered by the human body yeah but he's in his mom's basement he's not a real doctor I think we're I
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Gloria Calderonethink we're over he's no he plays operation he's a doctor think we're over like the thing is like you you do risk a lot more to have you know stuff like that when you have a large body count it's just what it is I mean I still I
04:29:21
Kenderly Ryanhave never someone put this on the table I have never and I know you guys won't believe this either but I have the test to prove it I've never had an STD in this industry since turning 18 I had STDs in high school with boyfriends that lied to me and cheated on me so I have
04:29:33
Kenderly Ryannever been exposed you've been more responsible but I'm saying like a lot of the times like it's you're at more of a risk to get people like civilian people that are not sex work do not get tested after each partner and from what I found
04:29:45
Brian Atlasout they get tested twice a year with God knows how many Pur so I'll address your point so you were saying that what I want to know is like does this wait go sorry well no you were saying that well it's okay if Mason over here wants a
04:29:57
Brian Atlaswoman who's a virgin but a guy who's not a virgin or even a guy who maybe is promiscuous himself or has a promiscuous past he doesn't have I think you said shouldn't have the right to have that
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Holly Treatspreference I mean he has the right but I don't really care what he object you object I don't you have the right to believe whatever you want I really only value your opinion on that versus you
04:30:20
Brian Atlasknow what I mean so all from me person okay so so I mean my response to that is in order for you to desire something in a
04:30:29
Holly Treatspartner must you also possess said characteristic or trait so here's the thing I think that there's a yin and yang and there's a a like a same type
04:30:42
Holly Treatsenergy that you have with people like there's a certain connection where you have where something's the same you know what I mean you Bond over that thing being the same and you feel camaraderie over it being the same then there's a different kind of a connection that you experience with somebody when they show
04:30:55
Holly Treatsyou something that you are just incapable of doing for yourself you know what I mean and you're just like wow that is totally outside of the Wheelhouse of what I know how to do and that's a very different kind of respect
04:31:06
Holly Treatswhen you witness someone doing something that you know inside you can't do and then it's like wow like that's part parip energy if you like it you know what I mean but maybe you don't like it's like but to address your statement that you made about how okay well if
04:31:19
Brian Atlasyou're a guy and maybe you've had some fun in your youth maybe your body counts up there that that IM immediately precludes you from wanting a woman who's not promiscuous or who has a low body
04:31:30
Brian Atlascount or who's a virgin I would argue that there are plenty of things that both men and women want in partners that they themselves do not possess for example a woman who is broke
04:31:42
Brian Atlasshe's not wrong for finding a billionaire attractive even though she's not a billionaire herself it doesn't make her wrong wrong for finding billionair attract wrong it's more that just like if someone said that I'd be
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Holly Treatslike yeah have fun with that opinion you know what I mean like I don't respect it you're allowed to have it you know what I mean like I'm just stating my perception is someone else's opinion
04:32:05
Brian Atlashere's here's another example short women liking tall men you need not be a tall woman to find tall men attractive so in that way a man who perhaps has a
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Holly Treatspromiscuous past he has a high body count I think he's perfectly fine if he wants to date a woman with a low body count or who's a virgin fine the the the side note or the the the
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Holly Treatsopposite where you have virgins who are I'm sure there's virgins that are interested in super promiscuous women right and it's like wild card it's like really are you sure you could like I think that there's something for everybody right but
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Holly TreatsI I don't I think that we're kind of beyond the phase of like measuring which thing is the most popular life choice for people because clearly people are have such
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Gloria Calderonediving men are not very I will I think men will never be accepting of a of a a high body count for the most part because they're just so like like that's
04:33:03
Gloria Calderonemy woman what's your body count babe hold on hold on my body count yeah hold on so I I I I've always been in a relationship so I don't I'm not you a low body count right yeah like I'm not I don't do one night stands like I've
04:33:15
Brian Atlasalways been in a relationship that's good me okay um cat five uh sorry I'm trying to let me let me give you no no no I wasn't searching for your name I was thinking of what the
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Brian Atlasprompt was for the question okay so we're going around the table do you object to men caring about women's body count do I object to men's caring about yeah do you think it's like a lame preference or it's like they're insecure
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Brian Atlasor like why who cares you know I think everybody has a right to care about their own opinion with things obviously so sure I mean sure I we can all agree that everybody's entitled to their preferences but do you object to
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Brian Atlasthe preference no okay what about you wait um I can I didn't get to say oh you didn't answer I thought we didn't answer oh you didn't answer I thought okay
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Carla Eliasorry sorry I didn't mean to skip okay you you go fine it does matter I think it does matter not so much for the male this is specific wait wait did am I answering the prompt right what what are
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Brian Atlaswe answering oh do you object to men caring about a woman's body count oh okay well the answer that I or the question that I was answering to was like does it matter uh but I I
04:34:27
Carla Eliaunderstand why it would matter just because from hearing a lot of women and working with women who have a high body count they come with me like in tears and sobbing because they have a lot of
04:34:38
Carla Elialike past trauma with other men so and they've told before that the men that they're with don't want to work through that with them and unravel that so I absolutely understand why men would want
04:34:49
Carla Eliato be with a woman with a low body count because it's in my opinion I think that each body is like oh my God I'm each body is
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Carla Elialike sleep alarm so I I do think that I mean it would be fair but but they also can't shame or judge judge women for it they can have that preference but they shouldn't shame and judge and I think that that's what we're seeing a lot of
04:35:13
Kenderly RyanShame and judging okay um I personally object to it obviously I would um because I don't
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Kenderly Ryancare about yours so if you care and again I object for my own reasons and these are people I would be pursuing so I'm going to object to your um Judgment of me because why the would I date
04:35:36
Kenderly Ryanyou anyways if you're just talking about average man that's your prerogative enjoy it but also I like a man who's experienced I don't like men who haven't been around I like promiscuous people that's what I like that's what works for
04:35:48
Kenderly Ryanme and for the record I have never had an actual bad relationship every man has been willing to work through all of my trauma all of my issues all of my body numbers it hasn't been an issue but you have to put the work in on both sides
04:36:01
Kenderly Ryanthat's what it really is so it's going to be a lot harder but I'm also very picky too so I'm not going to let my standards go down just because of my job and my body count okay what about you um well I can to tell you from my
04:36:13
Monica (Swedish Bella)husband's view um my husband has a high body count um and he told me that straight off the bat what's his body count over 200 okay um but he asked me
04:36:23
Monica (Swedish Bella)my body count and it matters to him um and I I you know I don't have a high body count and I told him he was like okay cool and I asked him like why does
04:36:34
Monica (Swedish Bella)it matter to you um and he was just like I just want a know because if it's it's a kind of trust thing you know and he also wants
04:36:45
Monica (Swedish Bella)wants to know if I'm promiscuous or not or I've have any diseases or if I'm actually going to be in a long-term relationship I think that's more important because he was like you know
04:36:57
Monica (Swedish Bella)if if you're somebody that jumps around um that means you're kind of not ready to settle down or have a long-term relationship and he wants to have a he wants to be in a relationship he's not
04:37:09
Monica (Swedish Bella)interested in this and that he has had a very few long-term relationships only two actually um well so the question is do you object to men objected because I I understand
04:37:21
Monica (Swedish Bella)where they're coming from because I'm a person when I ask somebody hey have you have you done this or have you done that it comes from a place of trust and I kind of want to know can I trust you
04:37:32
Annawill you hurt me will you jump around and will you find somebody else that you want to be with when you said the body account I thought we will be talking about medical term and like fat and thin
04:37:42
Annapeople because like English not my first language but then I understood like what you're talking about uh from my personal perspective I cannot OB objectify but I do think for girls it matter because for
04:37:55
Anname personally every single connection you make is like a spiritual connection and emotional connection and for my husband it matters but I also like respect other opinions and other people
04:38:06
Annaand I cannot like put a line like hey like it's matter for everyone or it doesn't matter for everyone okay um yeah I mean I understand why men don't want a woman with the high body
04:38:18
Gloria Calderonecount and I'm not judging it I'm not saying it because of that but I do know that like 95% of men care and I think it's more of like you know just men
04:38:29
Gloria Calderonedon't want to imagine I think like and this happens a lot like women can forgive cheating men can't right like it just it's just something that's it's just what it is I can't I can't I can
04:38:42
Brian Atlasnever let's not get on to cheating but um so okay you guys gave your answers on that so I'm curious it sounds like you kind of said body count doesn't matter you can we'll go around the table on
04:38:52
Holly Treatsthis what's your body count lady never reveals your secrets I thought it doesn't matter though I'm still a lady and I don't reveal my secrets Holly treats I've got I put a lot out there so
04:39:03
Holly Treatsthere's plenty of find other than body count you should put a little more out there I think I'm not going to cuz you said well I mean okay we know on count
04:39:12
TTS/Donationscount four on my only fans and we can count s s total and then you said in high school donated $100 if it matters then my body count is
04:39:24
TTS/Donationsthree your ability to hide the fact you've been run through by 10 plus guys is as obvious as your ability to hide the fact you can't move your forehead after Botox babe I go to the doctor and
04:39:35
Holly Treatssay please freeze my face thank you for noticing I pay a lot of money for it did a really good job he did he did exactly what I told him to do so hey he notic
04:39:46
Gloria CalderoneI'm just amazing I mean I feel like it's if a man doesn't want that in their life like if they don't want to accept a woman like that like I don't think that you should bash a woman for that either like you know by the way I don't want so
04:39:58
Holly Treatshere's the flip side I don't want a man with a low body count cuz I don't even care about this conversation right like this is a conversation for people with low body counts I don't care I don't care what your opinion is I don't want to have SE
04:40:14
Holly Treatsso like so it's one of those things where when people bring up body count it's just kind of like okay have fun in kindergarten I'll talk to you later like it's it's just like I I it's just such a rudimentary conversation no I think it's an important no it's an important
04:40:27
Holly Treatsconversation I think it's an important conversation but I don't like I don't engage with that mentality you know what I mean like I don't hang around people who are like so in that rabbit hole you
04:40:40
Holly Treatsknow what I mean so I guess the whatever pod yeah I mean guess I guess this is the whatever podcast but it's so I'm having a little bit of a culture shock right now where it's a culture shock where I'm just kind of like wow fck going on in OC no but I I think it's
04:40:52
Carla Eliareally important because again a lot of women who want to wait until marriage they go into like social media and they see a whole bunch of promiscuity so they're kind of left with this thought of like and this notion of like okay I should be doing the same thing because
04:41:05
Carla Eliait's going to get me that's a specific lifestyle and it's not until they experience all of these things with different men that they're like snap I'm empty I'm sad I'm I have like this baggage so it's a very I know that you might not like to engage in this
04:41:17
Carla Eliaconversation but I'm definitely I think that it's a very important one for at least I know that the women that follow me a lot of them are kind of like hoping and they're like I'm waiting until marriage but I want to know that it's worth it it might be for some women I
04:41:29
Holly Treatsdon't think it's worth it to wait until marri again again might be for some oh my God the biggest disappointment of your life like it's not it's wor oh my gosh anyway back to
04:41:40
Mason Gregoireyour story the mileage is gone I well I would like to I I disagree yeah I I think statistically shown the people have the best sex lives are people who
04:41:50
Gloria Calderonehave been happily married for their whole lives yeah the only partner they when you don't have hold on
04:42:03
Carla Eliathe so I think it's very it's true you that because it's the only person you've been with and then you don't have to matter about size you don't have to it doesn't matter about think about it this way like so you know
04:42:16
Mason Gregoireso intimately this other person you know them exactly what they like how they like it and you're able to provide that for them and it is constantly learning
04:42:25
Holly Treatsand getting better and better as you age so I think it it's just true I mean it doesn't get better and
04:42:36
Gloria Calderonebetter but your look but if you're not comparing if you're not comparing ing them to 20 other people like then you might like it more I am going to say like what I know now at 31 like I wish
04:42:49
Gloria Calderonethat I waited till marriage like I wish somebody like guided me into that direction because something like one of my friends told me her son just got engaged and both of them are virgins and she was like yeah you know I was like
04:43:01
Gloria Calderoneit's beautiful that they're getting married so young and she's like yeah you know it's actually beautiful that they don't have anyone to compare themselves to and I that hit me because I was like wow like sometimes we don't love a person and we're like we could be having
04:43:14
Gloria Calderonesex with them and be like ah this is whack because now you're looking at them through your other experiences you know and so I think there's Beauty in being with the same person for the rest of your life let's go around the table on
04:43:25
Kenderly Ryanthe question what's your body count my husband okay one um I I will give a sorry I will give a bracket I will not give a number
04:43:37
Kenderly Ryanthat's fine um I've done about 50 scenes and I've had about 50 to 100 private Partners okay I became sexually active at 13 okay so that's you know do you
04:43:47
Holly Treatswant to do that maybe a range type of thing hell no question not with these people who's these who's these people this entire situation hell no I'm not going to put myself on a cross like that
04:43:58
Carla Eliain front of you guys I've done down the line yes no CR let's respect stand respect respect her boundary let's respect her boundaries stop
04:44:09
Kenderly Ryanyes only and also I'm like that question either question super offensive and I won't let you I don't like that question what what question it's a woman's private business you don't ever ask
04:44:20
Kenderly Ryansomeone you don't ask woman hold on first off you asked earlier is it okay if I ask about your weight why didn't you ask her about that it's the same thing you asked me earlier how much did you how much do you weigh now if that's okay that's my because your guys is
04:44:33
Brian Atlasfirst off we're on the podcast having a debate and discussion about this I'm just you guys don't need to like try to do some like uh like uh shaming and guilt like type of thing like if she
04:44:45
Brian Atlasdoesn't want to answer that's totally fine I moved on but then when you decided to give a range I then brought it back to her if she felt more comfortable to give a range if she doesn't want to answer that's totally
04:44:56
Brian Atlasfine of course I'm always curious when if somebody states that body count doesn't matter then shouldn't you ought to context I don't feel safe in this situation you don't feel I don't feel
04:45:07
Holly Treatsemotionally safe in the J I know she is feel safe I'm going to protect her that's why I'm I'm not going to I'm just not going to open myself to trauma right I I'm trying to avoid unnecessary trauma
04:45:20
Brian Atlasin my life so that question thank you please move on we discussed not picking up trauma for no reason as you go that that's part of it you're you're not obliged to uh