Broke Men Should NOT Date?! She HATES America?! Husband CRASHES Show! | Dating Talk #121
Date: 2023-11-27
Duration: 7h 17m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Kenderly Ryan(guest)
SPEAKER_03Abigail(guest)
SPEAKER_04Carla Elia (overlap)(guest)
SPEAKER_05Carla Elia(guest)
SPEAKER_06Monica (Swedish Bella)(guest)
SPEAKER_07Anna(guest)
SPEAKER_10Gloria Calderone(guest)
SPEAKER_11Mason Gregoire(guest)
SPEAKER_12Dustin (Carla's husband)(guest)
SPEAKER_13Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_14Holly Treats(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:39
QuoteHolly Treats introduces herself as full-time content creator since 2015 including OnlyFans
“hi my name is Holly treats I'm 28 years old and I live in Los Angeles and I've been a full-time content creator since 2015”
00:03:02
QuoteCarla Elia introduces herself as relationship coach who went viral for controversial stance
“hello my name is Carla Eli I'm 23 years old and I'm a relationship coach and I live in San Diego”
00:03:38
QuoteKenderly Ryan introduces herself as adult film star of 14 years who now manages performers
“I'm kenderly Ryan um I am 32 years old I am from Los Angeles California and I I'm an adult film star of 14 years and I also now started managing lovely women”
01:45:10
QuoteMonica reveals her open marriage is only open for pegging
“the thing is he's not into it right into what the pegging part um wait is it you guys got an open marriage yes only for pegging”
03:59:00
ControversyKenderly's tweets read on air: 'white people don't have culture' and 'it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men'; she stands by both
“I still stand by that very strongly. It's not racist for black women to humiliate white men. That's how I feel. It's called reparations for your ancestors.”
04:48:12
QuoteHolly refuses to share body count saying she 'never reveals her secrets'
“Holly treats I've got I put a lot out there so there's plenty of find other than body count you should put a little more out there”
04:49:30
QuoteKenderly declines to give body count number but gives range: ~50 professional scenes + 50-100 private partners, sexually active since age 13
“I've done about 50 scenes and I've had about 50 to 100 private Partners okay I became sexually active at 13”
04:52:12
QuoteAbigail shares body count of ~14 and expresses regret about not respecting herself
“it's 28 I used to not have very good respect for myself when I was younger and I wish I would have gone back in Ma and hold my younger self respect yourself”
04:58:00
QuoteMonica shares body count of 25-30 and reveals it stemmed from seeking validation due to abusive mother
“probably between 25 and 30 like I'm 40 but also I was in a bad place when most of that happened I my mom was super abusive so I just tried to find love wherever I could”
04:59:00
QuoteKenderly says body count 8 then laughs it off
“eight I'm not so interesting okay”
04:59:42
QuoteMason (SPEAKER_11) reveals body count of zero as a 27-year-old virgin
“Mason oh yeah uh zero Z zero Z hand Z Henderson okay good for you”
05:05:06
QuoteCarla rates herself as 'average' to be relatable to her followers
“I was going to say that I was average too I think I'm I'm an average and just because if I'm average and I can get this life that I have then all the other ladies can have the same thing”
05:11:42
QuoteCarla states her position on broke men: absolute — broke men at 30+ should not be dating
“absolutely broke men like financially and mentally sure... if you're 31 40 and you're still broke there's something wrong with you”
05:14:42
QuoteCarla reveals she was a virgin before marriage, which explains her high standards stance
“she was a virgin before she met her husband so I think that's why they said it because they paid attention that she was a virgin before”
05:59:36
QuoteDustin (Carla's husband) introduces himself: ex-Navy, 25, aspiring police officer
“so tell us a little bit about yourself Dustin... I'm uh 25 uh just recently got out of the military... I've been in the process for going on to the police force for about a year now uh should be going in in January”
06:07:48
QuoteDustin describes household dynamic diplomatically when asked if he's under a dictatorship
“I do not think I'm under a dictatorship I I run my household okay uh she just makes the food and uh points me in the right direction”
06:10:30
QuoteDustin describes realizing Carla was different when she refused to hold his hand on first date
“I knew I knew this was a different breed of woman”
Topics Discussed
00:00:22
Introductions and relationship statuses
Guests introduce themselves: Holly Treats (28, LA, content creator/OnlyFans since 2015), Carla Elia (23, San Diego, relationship coach, viral for 'broke men' stance), Kenderly Ryan (32, LA, adult film star 14 years/manager), Abigail (22, Missouri, personal trainer), Monica Swedish Bella (40, Sweden/LA, bikini competitor/OnlyFans/former teacher), Anna (26, Ukraine, 4 years in USA, actress/ecommerce), Gloria Calderone (31, New York, real estate investor), Mason Gregoire (27, mech engineer/powerlifter/Christian). Relationship status round follows.
00:06:26
Relationship status and dating styles round
Holly: single, dating 3 men (2 long distance), recently had someone fall off her roster. Carla: married 1.5 years, virgin before marriage. Kenderly: single 5-6 months, female FWB situationship, also sleeping with 2 men currently. Abigail: single ~1 year, sees someone 6 months (on/off). Monica: married 6 years (slid into DMs). Anna: married, met 4 years ago, married 3 months after meeting. Gloria: married within 4 months of meeting. Mason: single, virgin saving for marriage.
00:27:00
Open relationships, polyamory, and Monica's pegging arrangement
Monica reveals her marriage has an open arrangement for pegging only. Discussion of what constitutes an open marriage and emotional vs physical boundaries.
03:59:00
Kenderly's controversial tweets about white people and America
Brian reads Kenderly's tweets: 'white people don't have culture' and 'it's not racist for black women to humiliate white men'. Kenderly stands by both statements. Group debate on cultural appropriation, double standards, and whether statements are racist. Kenderly says she's half-Mexican. Monica (Polish) and others push back.
04:24:00
Body count discussion and double standards
Brian asks everyone to share body count. Holly refuses. Kenderly gives range (~50 scenes + 50-100 private, sexually active since 13). Abigail: ~14 (by graduation, mostly from 2-month phase at 16-17; regrets it). Monica: 25-30 (most from period of seeking validation due to abusive mother). Gloria: declines (husband watching). Mason: 0. Anna: declines. Debate on double standards for male vs female body count, whether men with high counts can expect low counts, and whether hookup culture is harmful.
05:03:22
Self-ratings (looks 1-10)
Ratings round. Holly: 7 average, can dress to 10. Carla: average/5 (doesn't want to say 10 to be relatable to her followers). Kenderly: 5 appearance, 10 personality. Abigail: 6. Monica: 5 (self-described). Gloria: 8. Mason: 7.5-8. Brian: 5 (gained weight, downgraded from 6).
05:08:36
Carla's viral content reviewed — 'broke men shouldn't date'
Brian reviews Carla's news articles (New York Post, The Mirror, The Sun) and multiple TikTok videos. Carla explains her position: men with provider mindset should show their resources naturally; broke men at 30+ have limiting beliefs and should focus on finances first; women are precious investments. Discussion involves all guests on whether broke men should date/marry/have children. Carla advocates being a virgin and rotational dating without intimacy.
05:46:48
OKCupid attractiveness data and male/female rating disparities
Brian shows OKCupid chart: men rate women on a bell curve while women rate 80% of men as unattractive. Discussion of why women are harsher judges of male attractiveness and how this affects dating marketplace dynamics.
05:50:00
Dating logistics: men working 60-70 hours, submission, and love languages
Discussion of whether women can handle men working very long hours for high income. Monica says she needs her man at home. Carla says women should have their own life alongside a wealthy man. Love language discussion: Monica and Anna both say acts of service/cooking are how they express love to husbands. Brian and Mason discuss appreciating wives' cooking regardless of quality.
05:59:36
Husband Dustin crashes the show
Carla's husband Dustin (ex-Navy, 25, aspiring police officer) joins the panel mid-show. Describes meeting Carla on Bumble, first coffee date (she's allergic to alcohol), spontaneous Denny's and meeting her family. He showed her his finances/credit score/savings on third date. Says 'I knew this was a different breed of woman' when she refused to hold his hand on first date. Describes household as: 'I run it, she makes the food and points me in the right direction.'
06:08:00
Rotational dating debate
Brian and Carla debate rotational dating concept. Brian prefers undivided romantic attention immediately. Carla clarifies rotational dating means spending time with multiple men without intimacy or kissing. Dustin confirms he was fine with it because Carla was clearly not being promiscuous. Monica shares she had no idea how to date after an 11-year relationship ending and found long-distance courtship via Skype valuable.
06:39:00
Protective husband video (Carla's TikTok)
Brian plays Carla's TikTok about asking a man what he would do if a fight broke out — is he the type to pull out his phone or fix it? Dustin responds to the video about himself, saying he would assess the situation for his family's safety and take video evidence for police if appropriate. Carla says knowing her husband would protect the family is the most attractive thing.
Transcript
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Holly Treatsthe guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation also uh where are you from go ahead hi my name is Holly treats I'm 28 years old and I live in Los Angeles and I've been a full-time content creator since 2015
00:02:52
Holly Treatsand now I'm like designing jewelry and doing other stuff too and what when you say content creator what kind of content are you making I've been doing some sexy content on only fans for quite some time
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Carla Eliasince 2015 though um premium Snapchat and then only fans and then caming like oh so you're no uh yeah okay okay got it what about you hello my name is Carla Eli I'm 23 years old and I'm a
00:03:16
Brian Atlasrelationship coach and I live in San Diego okay and you kind of uh you've had a couple viral articles on you from there was the New York Post the daily wire the mirror the sun all these yeah
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Brian Atlasso we'll get into those a little uh and you've reacted to one or two of our videos so we'll get into that go ahead hi I'm kenderly Ryan um I am 32 years
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Kenderly Ryanold I am from Los Angeles California and I I'm an adult film star of 14 years and I also now started managing lovely women
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Brian Atlaslike Holly treats over here okay and you said 14 years you've been involved in that so since you were 18 correct okay you got started at 18 and um you do like were you doing some
00:04:02
Kenderly Ryandancing you were doing uh porn like that kind of yeah so I started dancing at 18 I started doing um professional films at 21 I've been up
00:04:11
Abigailfor a few Awards so it's been fun okay all right what about you hi I'm Abigail a I am 22 and I'm from Missouri and I'm
00:04:21
Brian Atlasa personal trainer Missouri I detect a little accent so uh and you also recently had a little viral moment yes I did on Tik Tok uh and Matt Walsh reacted
00:04:34
Monica (Swedish Bella)to it we we'll check that out a little bit but um yeah welcome hi I'm Monica Hol Swedish Bella uh I'm a bikini compor can we have you tilt your microphone up
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Monica (Swedish Bella)just a tend yeah just perfect perfect um I'm a bikini fitness competitor um I do only fans um used to be a teacher I'm
00:04:54
Monica (Swedish Bella)from Sweden I lived here eight years okay age uh I'm 40 40 okay used to be a teacher what did you teach I I used to
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Annateach European history and religion history European history okay all right cool what about you hi my name is Anna I'm from Ukraine I live in the United
00:05:15
Gloria CalderoneStates for four years I'm doing acting and Ecommerce age 26 26 okay what about you hi my name is Gloria Calderone I am from New York and I'm a real estate
00:05:28
Mason Gregoireinvestor age um 31 31 okay welcome thank you uh my name is Mason gregar I am a uh I got crap for this last time time
00:05:40
Mason Gregoirebefore but I'm a follower of Christ primarily um other than that mechanical engineer uh powerlifter competitive powerlifter content creator U age
00:05:52
Brian Atlas27 can we see the like a little like double bu myin holy dude and you're
00:06:00
Brian Atlasalso a a bodybuilder too right yes I do person come on let's go it's a little hidden but maybe I think we can have a gun show in this table yeah I feel like
00:06:13
Kenderly Ryanand you're Fitness competitor too yeah she oh she okay yeah and she just won yeah oh really thank you yeah I had in and out
00:06:23
Brian Atlasyesterday what's up you I had the win I had an in and out after my uh my show ah yeah good times okay cool we're going to go around the table once more what's
00:06:36
Brian Atlaseverybody's current relationship status so are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married poly sex cult Harum if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest
00:06:48
Holly Treatsrelationship you've ever been in go ahead so I am currently single and date definitely upgraded my dating game and I'm dating multiple people but very
00:06:59
Holly Treatscurious and um my my job takes up a lot of my like emotional bandwidth for dating like being on only fans cuz I'm kind of giving in that energy so I want to reserve my dating life even though I'm
00:07:12
Holly Treatssingle for like being stuff it's worth it um um and then the my longest relationship was 8 years and that was like I got out of that like 3 years ago
00:07:24
Holly Treatsand even though we weren't married we were it was like in meshed so I'm definitely enjoying my freedoms I'm really excited to see what I've done for myself since getting out of that and I'm like not it's it's all been good since
00:07:38
Holly Treatsthen you said you said you guys broke up three years ago yeah I want to say like this like right before the pandemic it was no it was a little bit after um I think it was like 2020 maybe yeah like right around that yeah but we didn't break up
00:07:51
Brian Atlasbecause of Co we should have broken up years before Co I see yeah gotcha so you were pretty pretty much from like 18 to 2 5 26 is yeah the period of the
00:08:02
Holly Treatsrelationship go and was that your last relationship it was my last like long-term relation long relationship okay so would you say you've been Singlish for about 3 years I kind like kind of had a wild phase uh right after
00:08:15
Holly Treatsthat relationship yeah I definitely had a rebound dude who was awful like my Pete Davidson if you will okay he was wor he was wor and he we went to like swingers Resorts and like did a bunch of
00:08:27
Holly Treatscrazy stuff like fully participated needed to do that for myself and but super not definitely like in a different place now how did you describe it after the breakup you had a was it a crazy
00:08:39
Holly Treatsphase what did what did you I just got with this guy who was like really like brought like wanted to like like disturb his own life and like probably wanted to disturb my life too and he was just
00:08:50
Holly Treatssuper chaotic and like trying to have sex with like everything that would move and like really didn't have a type it was more just kind of like any and it honestly like that I yeah anything that moves and honestly that's just like really exhausting after a while as a
00:09:03
Holly Treatswoman to like always feel like every situation could turn into a sexual situation the way this this guy obviously does right so um that was just really exhausting but it was also super fun for like three months so I'm super
00:09:14
Holly Treatsglad I did that okay yeah gotcha and you said currently you're seeing multiple guys yes currently I'm seeing like I would say three guys and they're all
00:09:26
Holly Treatspretty like I want to say like high value men you know what I mean and they're super busy and I'm super busy and no one's really like being like okay this is where we're going you know what I mean but it's also kind of like I
00:09:39
Holly Treatsdon't know it's pretty new for all of them so we're seeing where it goes you said they're you consider them high value men so I consider them high value what makes them high value um I think that I really like on a seposexual level
00:09:51
Holly Treatslove what they've done with their careers in their lives like as a fan almost of kind like hey I don't really want your job but like that's impressive good job you know what I I mean like I really like I don't want that but like
00:10:02
Holly TreatsI'm impressed that you did that and cuz for me with what I've built a huge problem that I've that I have that I didn't really honestly know and I'm sure I'm going to get trolled for this like I didn't know that only fans would change my dating life to the level that it did
00:10:15
Holly Treatswhen I first started because it was way long ago before people were talking about it on podcast and I was just figuring it out as I went but now I have a bunch of followers and it is weird a date because I have to consider are you trying to use me can you actually
00:10:27
Holly Treatsbenefit my life is this a waste of my time time should I just be at home making jewelry and doing my my graphic design or doing doing caming for for whatever right making at least positive
00:10:37
Holly Treatsincome instead of hanging out with you okay yeah so that's kind of the new issue I have okay so you're currently seeing three guys though I'm currently seeing three guys um two of them don't live in the same state so it's kind of
00:10:49
Holly Treatslike more long distance and then one of them is in the state but I don't really it's whatever do you consider it cuz often times you hear these terms like roster do you consider it a roster
00:11:02
Holly Treatsum no because it's not a leaderboard there's not like a f you know what I mean it's not like a running leaderboard where everyone's a competition okay yeah how often you said one of them does live in LA though yeah
00:11:14
Holly Treatshow often you're like well we're making it a competition well whatever is going to make this a [Laughter]
00:11:25
Brian Atlascompetition that is how I laugh homie no no no um so he lives in La how often did you hang out with him man this are we really talking about this right now um okay like probably twice a month twice a
00:11:38
Brian Atlasmonth okay and what about the two other guys once a month maybe less yeah we're talking in between that it's like are there are there any other people in the picture like that aren't someone just fell off okay if we're going to call it a roster someone just fell off the
00:11:50
Holly Treatsroster one of the three no another one another one yeah there was another one he was an actor and he was really cool but um I honestly just like his Life's Too chaotic for me and I'm kind of like okay I feel really stressed out having
00:12:01
Holly Treatsto like keep track of what you're up to so I'm just not going to keep track of what you're up to okay are these guys also seeing like multiple women I would imagine I don't ask but it's because I
00:12:12
Brian Atlasknow okay are you intimately involved with all three of them yeah having not all together as a group huh
00:12:23
Brian Atlasnot as a group not like a polygamy type of thing but you never know what these conversations are going to turn into you are you're you're hooking up with all of them basically okay I see are you ever
00:12:34
Holly Treatsworried that they're kind of just pursuing you for the sex um maybe she want I me she wants that yeah so here's
00:12:44
Holly Treatsmy thing like there's a lot of relief in that because in in the same way that a guy will be like gets a lot of relief and like paying girls to have sex even if he's good-looking and what and everyone's like why does he do that you
00:12:57
Holly Treatsknow what I mean it's because there's a lot of pressure that gets taken away when it's kind of like hey these are the bounds and the terms of the relationship if we decide that we want to talk about it beyond that we can but let's keep it
00:13:08
Holly Treatsreally defined and simple for now right and there is kind of a lot of a lot less stress in that for me too when it's like hey I'm not the only girl that you're hooking up with I don't have to decide right now if we're going to get married cuz I honestly don't want to make that
00:13:21
Holly Treatsdecision in my life right now so so so marriage is something that you want eventually I potentially do want to get married but I'm also not like I know that whatever I do is going to be unconventional as because that's
00:13:32
Holly Treatspretty much how I've done my whole life so I need to what that my therapist says my objective needs to become very clear on what I want and what my goals are and actually track them out and then
00:13:44
Holly Treatsbasically just like make sure nothing disrupts that and if the right person comes along that is on that Vibe then that's good but otherwise I'll just be victim to like okay I'll become whatever you are okay I'll become what you know
00:13:56
Mason Gregoirewhat I mean I need to just kind of watch my own stuff Fair um would it be an acceptable situation for you if you eventually just never found anybody yeah I thought about that and then right as I
00:14:08
Holly Treatsthought about the craziest stuff like like I was like really getting low like that you know what I mean like oh maybe I just w't have anybody and I was somewhat okay with it cuz I'm actually like I have a lot of love in my life
00:14:18
Holly Treatslike this right but then just recently I was talking to somebody and was like Hey so I really want a baby mama but I really don't want to relationship and I
00:14:30
Holly Treatsreally need someone who's going to be a good mother but who's also going to know that while we need things to look good and healthy for the kid I I can't be tracked you know what I mean like I don't want to be kept tabs on I don't
00:14:42
Holly Treatswant it to be a conventional relationship I but we could talk about the terms of that but I know that that's unconventional and that it would be an arrangement and I was like you know what that's actually the only terms in which I would have
00:14:54
Monica (Swedish Bella)children and that we'll dive in we'll dive in yeah this is yeah we got to go to other people yeah go ahead what were you're proposing there for a little bit no I'm just oh yeah
00:15:05
Monica (Swedish Bella)definitely what do I have to do someone just fell off number four number four you're like so you're uh Kidd someone just fell off yeah what about you go ahead happily
00:15:17
Carla Eliamarried how long have you guys been married we've been married for a year and a half going on for two years oh congratulations thank you awesome and it was that or is that your
00:15:30
Brian Atlaslongest relationship yes that you've had or oh yeah okay so all right and uh we might have your husband crash the show a
00:15:41
Brian Atlaslittle bit later a little bit later um nice all right cool cool like it can I already pick your team can I already be team you yeah you can what go
00:15:55
Kenderly Ryanahead uh I'm Kendra oh I already said that uh yeah I'm relation relationship oh man this is actually really crappy
00:16:04
Kenderly Ryanright now so my ex fiance and I just broke up about five six months ago but it's all good it was very toxic happy yeah oh my God yeah for two years I was
00:16:14
Kenderly Ryanpaying the bills so and then he took my car that I was paying for and had a mistress for a year so got out of that I've been single for five six months I met a wonderful woman cuz I'm bisexual
00:16:28
Kenderly Ryanpansexual bisexual but it's just like friends with benefits like me and her both need a man's presence but not we haven't been together with a man yet but we both like
00:16:39
Kenderly Ryandate other men and then we just hang out we're not really sexually intimate but it's like more of a so with women it's more of like a cuddling comforting like a best friend but you can make out or
00:16:50
Kenderly Ryanhang out or kiss or cuddle or not like there's no pressure so it's nice to have that because when it comes to like creating what I create very very draining do you consider yourself by or
00:17:01
Kenderly Ryanlesbian I'm assuming by right but I mean I'm more towards the women than the men but like I said you just were you just had a fiance who was a man yes that's my understanding yes I've only had
00:17:14
Mason Gregoirelong-term relationships with men but I've been with women since I was very young I see okay so you currently in a situationship with this woman yes I see
00:17:24
Mason Gregoireokay what what was the timeline sorry if I missed it um between uh ending that relationship starting this new one two weeks how long were you guys to how long
00:17:36
Brian Atlaswere you in your fiance together uh four years four years okay got two of them were long distance and that ended 6 months ago or July 2023 say five six months like that she turned you turned
00:17:47
Holly Treatsyou on into women I was already into women when I met him I was only with women for three and a half years okay not to put her on blast but the girl she's seeing right now is hot she like I'm not I'm I'm more lean
00:17:59
Holly Treatstowards the male like like I I don't get me wrong I I've done a lot of content with them and I love hooking up with them and I never want to like have that be off the table right but I'm really straight and she but her girl is hot are
00:18:11
Brian Atlasyou super straight I'm like moderately straight you're not that straight I'm I'm straight I'm straight but I've got a little a little Zig you're not that straight okay all right whatever so okay
00:18:23
Kenderly Ryanyour current situationship according to her is mega super hot yes she's super hot super fun uh she's down to do anything like I'm like let's go to Six Flags right now let's do it okay so all
00:18:36
Brian Atlasright got it um and you said but you're also dating some other men too it sounds like I wouldn't say dating sleeping with having sex yes do you have a roster currently kind yeah what's your roster
00:18:48
Kenderly Ryanwhat's your roster looking like yeah what's some numbers numbers I have I usually have five at all times but I'm down to two right now cuz they're just getting messy they're getting too connected two addition to the woman definitely good again hold on let's do
00:19:00
Kenderly Ryansome math here do the math they just get obsessive and I'm like no so is that like a rotation type of thing you rotate it's like if I'm bored who's the closest
00:19:11
Kenderly Ryanyou know whoever's the closest I'll hit you up and no I'm saying like the roster definition is that like some I don't I've never heard it before basically if you have a bunch of people you're talking to at the same time and then it everyone else defines it differently
00:19:24
Kenderly Ryanafter that but for me it's like and I've had this since I was probably 14 15 like you've had the roster since yeah okay cuz I don't ever want to get married I don't want kids like even my ex we had a
00:19:36
Brian Atlaspartnership a life partnership clearly not life well just because you don't want to get married and have kids doesn't necessarily mean that you have to have multiple partners but I mean you're I'm not saying that you can't move that way but but I don't like
00:19:48
Kenderly Ryanpolygamy either and I don't want my partner with anyone else yes I am selfish yep hold on ABS double standards I want a c [Music]
00:20:00
Brian Atlasso if men can have double standards I can too so you want it open on your end but closed on theirs absolutely but you said your current the current girl you're seeing she's other dudes
00:20:10
Kenderly Ryancuz it's a dude I can't give her that I can give her something really similar if I strap it on right but I can't give her that real thing okay all right uh plus I find it
00:20:23
Brian Atlashot when a girl's with a guy but I don't okay wait that's wait so your male if you had the male partner you would not want him with women not without me there I see I'll just watch it but you but you
00:20:34
Brian Atlaswould it'd be okay for you to be with other men when he's not there yes and they're okay with that they have to be or else they're not with
00:20:42
Kenderly Ryanme Deuces I ain't I ain't taking that deal uh I it wasn't all for you you're not my type you're a little too white oh
00:20:53
Brian Atlasoh my God she knows what she like hey I'm I'm fine with people having racial preferences that's totally fine yeah everyone everyone preference more for
00:21:03
Brian Atlasthem I guess absolutely good for them good for them um okay so uh so you roster wise what's the most so you said
00:21:14
Brian Atlasfive is the normal right now it's three including the woman what's like the most at one time that you've ever been seeing like a Baker's Dozen what are we talking here no probably like five to six oh five to six okay and just going back to
00:21:27
Brian Atlasyou what's the I know you said you currently got three uh what's the most that you know uh roster the biggest roster the biggest roster is it more of an NBA team more an NFL team I'm trying
00:21:39
Holly Treatsto think talk the my biggest roster probably happened when I was in high school and it proba like you know what I mean like that's when I did my most damage and then I like got smart and I
00:21:50
Holly Treatswas like you know what I yes I can do this obviously but I should be smart about when I do this and so in high school yeah you have no idea what a I was in high school like this girl saw
00:22:01
Holly Treatsit for herself so she knows like I had like I had like a threesome with two dudes and got like Eiffel towered in high school like on at an easy party
00:22:11
Holly TreatsBeach you know what I mean like Eiffel Tower we crazy you don't want to know it's not actually do want to know it's a non bisexual it's a non- bisexual male
00:22:24
Holly Treatsthreesome so there's like a bisexual male threesome and then there's a non- bisexual male threesome have an interaction yeah they don't they they're more like yeah buddy like I imagine that's like how they feel at what at
00:22:34
Holly Treatswhat age did you lose your virginity uh 15 15 okay and you said you did most of your damage yeah in high school yeah cuz then I got into a relationship when I
00:22:45
Holly Treatswas like really yeah yeah so it was like yeah okay and even though he was horrible he definitely like saved me some mileage so whatever [Music]
00:22:59
Brian AtlasI can't oh I don't know why I play that one okay um wait okay oh so how big was your roster in
00:23:10
Holly Treatshigh school I mean probably like I think I probably like had like was in love with probably six dudes at one time and was like maybe one of them will love me all that your high school or was it m I
00:23:22
Holly Treatswas like cuz I was out partying amongst like all of Orange County we like so yeah we were so we went to high school in Orange County what high school can you say I went to University High School
00:23:32
Holly Treatswhich is the same high school that will frell is from no he went to Irvine no he went to UNI they talk about it he started the GetGo Club at Uni and it's like their biggest it's like the best thing they have going for them except for me but they can't talk about me
00:23:45
Holly Treatsbecause I have only fans so wait what's the best will far it's me and Will farell from un from University High School you and will frell had a no no no we both went we both went to University High School in Irvine that's like our
00:23:58
Brian Atlasgraduating class yeah are graduating high school so we're the two coolest things to come out of that cool okay wait so okay um so okay it was a bunch of other high like a bunch of other high school yeah so it it's like there's this
00:24:11
Holly Treatslike culture in Orange County where you like make friends from other Orange County high schools and everybody goes to these crazy parties all around cuz it's like a bunch of like rich kids with mansions and their parents like just don't pay attention to them right they're always gone so they're always
00:24:23
Holly Treatsgone and so these kids have like parties to make friends and whatever so there's there's a whole group of people like that so it's like very common to meet a bunch of different people from other high schools and I was just like well this is a great way to make friends
00:24:34
Holly Treatslet's have sex and like confirm our alliance you know what I mean yeah I mean if there's one way to describe like Orange County families it's absentee parents yes yeah and pill poppers and their kids party when they're gone right
00:24:46
Holly Treatsso it's like if you're an Orange County parent just know your kid is absolutely doing bad stuff to you are you from OC I'm not from OC I live in OC yeah no so you see it like it's like they have like
00:24:57
Holly TreatsMercedes Benz and you're like why are why do you have this car wild yeah and they're like drunk Drive crashing there like no adult supervision exactly upet that's where we went I was upset I got a
00:25:08
Kenderly RyanScion and not a BMW cuz my family told me I was going to BMW go I got made fun of for not having a Mercedes yeah that's how it was if you didn't get it you're getting bullied and we're like What if we don't have the money okay then you
00:25:19
Monica (Swedish Bella)get bullied for not having the money good talk streets are hard out there my mom for a car she just looked at me and I went went away I was like what about you I am
00:25:30
Brian Atlassingle yes yes oh yeah relationship that is all I have so uh single uh how long have you been single
00:25:40
Brian Atlas[Music] um probably about since January almost year has okay since
00:25:51
AbigailJanuary okay uh longest relationship yeah okay uh my longest relationship about 2 years 2 years mhm okay uh let's see and in that onee period of time but
00:26:04
Abigailyou've been dating though I'm assuming right yes okay yeah I was seeing a guy for about 6 months of that okay on and off
00:26:14
Monica (Swedish Bella)okay got it we do all right uh what about you uh married been married for six years um my longest relationship in Sweden was 11 years met my ex when I was
00:26:25
Monica (Swedish Bella)19 uh he was 10 years older um we broke up because it just didn't work um I dated a little bit in between that and then I met my husband I actually slid
00:26:37
Monica (Swedish Bella)into his DM you slid into your husband's DM yeah okay uh he thought I was a cam girl or selling glass Ray bands it was either or and generally hard for men to
00:26:49
Mason Gregoirebelieve that women will slide into their DMs I did that I was like hey you're hot he's like it's usually like a scam or ex some computer virus or link is coming but exactly exactly just send the link just let's get it over with so we
00:27:02
Monica (Swedish Bella)started talking but he was said it was so weird you you spoke fluent Swedish so he was like I was very confused um so we started talking right and uh he was like
00:27:11
Monica (Swedish Bella)so what are you into I was like the butt and he was like yeah and that's uh I I misunderstood his
00:27:21
Monica (Swedish Bella)question and uh he was like uh I he knew I was the one for him that was the fact when you mentioned being into butt stuff
00:27:32
Monica (Swedish Bella)uhhuh like you pegging no well oh you received well I meant to that too so uh any takers please uh wait what do you mean takers
00:27:43
Monica (Swedish Bella)you have a husband yeah the thing is he's not into it right into what the pegging part um wait is it you guys got an open marriage yes only for pegging
00:27:52
Monica (Swedish Bella)though no so we do we do um what happened was so this is if you marry a guy who who who loves women either you
00:28:02
Monica (Swedish Bella)let him or you leave him right so either you you're fine with him you know wait so it's like open on his end closed on your end or open on both no I mean if I went to him and said hey babe this is something I really want to do like I met
00:28:15
Monica (Swedish Bella)somebody that I really Vibe with sexually like would it be fine we would have that discussion I just haven't really met that person yet I'm very particular with my with my men so so
00:28:27
Monica (Swedish Bella)wait you you guys see other people then as what are you guys swingers no well I mean we have had like uh multiple women like in our bedroom uh actually the
00:28:37
Monica (Swedish Bella)first time I was I came to America to visit him 3 days into that visit uh we had a threesome with a lady that was like 62 wait 62 yeah she was hot though she
00:28:50
Holly Treatswas really good-looking no like for real there some hot Gils out there running around yeah hot take I don't know if there's such a
00:28:59
Monica (Swedish Bella)thing as a hot 62-year-old no she was she's hot like Nina heartley who oh never mind who the is that gu guy no she was she had like a sixpack like
00:29:11
Mason Gregoireshe was she was good-looking if she wasn't hot I wouldn't go for it to be fair like the best way that a woman can like maintain her beauty is yeah go to the gym so I'm I I feel that but 62 is pushing it yeah
00:29:24
Monica (Swedish Bella)she was I thought she was good-looking though um I wouldn't have done it if I didn't find her attractive going get canell by all the 62 plus year olds out exactly um but yeah so that happened what up
00:29:35
Brian AtlasNick that's all on Center looks okay are people complaining I know I just missed it uh I'll take a look at it here in a sec um okay but so you
00:29:47
Monica (Swedish Bella)guys so so you know what happened was this was like back and forth on how you know we're going to manage this because he was very open with me from from day
00:29:56
Monica (Swedish Bella)one he was like listen this is me I like women I probably won't be like super faithful if that's what you're looking for and I was like I really like him We
00:30:07
Monica (Swedish Bella)Vibe you know this is awesome and I'm not I'm pretty open when it comes to sexuality I don't really judge anybody like for me it's like stay safe do whatever you want um so I was like back and forth am I comfortable with it we
00:30:20
Monica (Swedish Bella)tried it out and I wasn't uncomfortable with it you know I was like you know having three SS is fun it's I'm not I'm not super by but like I love beautiful women I support them you know we had a
00:30:31
Brian Atlasgood time so wait do you sleep with other men no oh but you're you're able to sleep with other women yes alone yes okay do you or you just have I mean yes
00:30:42
Monica (Swedish Bella)that has happened like for what about him he does he does it yeah sleep with other women yeah without you yeah okay I I just don't find that um I'm not a
00:30:52
Monica (Swedish Bella)person I'm not jealous I don't I'm pretty Alpha so I don't really and if you want to leave me for somebody else I'm not going to stop you you know I'm not going to be like oh please don't leave I don't give a I'm sorry hold
00:31:04
Monica (Swedish Bella)on just to be clear let me just clarify so if your husband were to leave you yeah you wouldn't give a no I don't mean it like that of course I would be upset it would be sad it would be a divorce but it's not like I'm going to
00:31:16
Monica (Swedish Bella)beg somebody to stay with me if you don't love me and you met somebody else I'm not going to try to keep you because that's that's pathetic and embarrassing
00:31:24
Monica (Swedish Bella)for me so you know you I mean it's fine we would probably have I'm my like me and my ex everything was fine on the breakup he got upset yeah but after a
00:31:35
Brian Atlaswhile you know we solved it so sure what about you uh married 4 years now and that's my longest relationship you're in a relationship uh four years and it's your
00:31:46
Brian Atlaslongest oh I forgot to ask how long have you been in the US for four years oh four years so you met him right away yeah we got married like in three months
00:31:55
Brian Atlasoh you got married within three months yeah okay I see um okay Mar within three is he also you said you're Ukrainian is he also Ukrainian no no he's from Texas but he lived in California for like 10
00:32:07
Annayears americ yeah okay he's from Texas he lived in California like for 10 years I came to California for business and uh
00:32:16
Gloria Calderonethen I stayed okay all right what about you um I am married um my first anniversary was a couple days ago oh
00:32:26
Gloria Calderonecongratulations thank you so one year about so one year um my longest relationship was about 4 years it's not with my husband um I did also marry my
00:32:36
Brian Atlashusband 3 months after meeting him and I freaking adore him wait so you both got married within 3 months of yeah so my you too I got married within four months
00:32:47
Brian Atlaswow wait four months 3 months 3 months 6 months oh okay all right so can I just say like um I the first time like I saw
00:32:58
Gloria Calderonehim I I thought I mean he's a greatl looking guy but um my best one of my best friends like was it was his best friend so there was definitely a good reference you know um and we've had our
00:33:10
Gloria Calderoneour our ups and downs from getting married so soon Without Really knowing each other but it's overall been a great experience and I've learned a lot and I've grown a lot as a person so I'm
00:33:20
Brian Atlasgrateful awesome okay and uh you does anybody here have children I do children okay you have just uh one kid two kids I
00:33:31
Brian Atlashave one daughter she's 12 and that's from your previous no that oh you were 18 okay are you wanting more kids oh
00:33:39
Brian Atlasyeah absolutely okay at least two more okay got it uh all right and uh Mason what about you uh yeah um single been
00:33:50
Mason Gregoiresingle for uh probably uh few months now um yeah longest relationship was about a year one year and uh you've been on the show
00:34:02
Mason Gregoirea couple times have you been bombarded with women in your DMs wanting to date you uh I I've definitely gotten a few
00:34:13
Mason Gregoirewomen who are interested yeah you talking with any or uh nothing too serious right now I mean there one or two have stuck out but nothing has
00:34:24
Brian Atlasprogressed and since maybe some of the viewers know some of them might not the panel I think here they don't know uh what what are you how are you
00:34:34
Mason Gregoiremaneuvering when it comes to the uh the dating world yeah um well so I'm sure you'll get to this eventually but I'm I'm a virgin um I've never had sex uh
00:34:45
Mason Gregoireit's something I'm saving for my wife um yeah it's that's extremely important to me I know uh the statistics when it comes to sex before marriage how it can
00:34:57
Mason Gregoirehurt future relationships uh your ability to bond with other people so I'm saving that for her uh trying to honor God with that um there are plenty of
00:35:07
Mason Gregoirethings I'm oh yeah go for it do you want your the girl you meet to also be a virgin or it doesn't matter to um I mean if how important is it yeah if I could pick I would rather her be a virgin but
00:35:19
Mason Gregoireit's not wait if you get what no if I if I could pick oh you could pick if I if I had the choice yeah I I would rather her be a virgin just cuz I know you have the choice Mason you have the choice you got
00:35:30
Brian Atlasthe choice I got the choice body your choice indeed yes yes preach well it's not it's not that he has the choice I think just in terms of I think you have
00:35:40
Brian Atlasthe optionality to do it uh because listen you're tall fit handsome smart successful Mason you are not settling
00:35:49
Holly Treatsfor a non- virgin mhm I I refuse to allow it okay me too and also don't you want to date like like don't you want to to be with someone who's also gone through that fundamentally different life experience like that's not a life experience I can
00:36:02
Holly Treatsrelate with at all and that probably is like so many parts of it so it's like an imagine you'd want someone who at least understands it right uh understands like or waiting someone who also waited for
00:36:12
Mason Gregoiremarriage even you know what I mean so yeah like okay speaking ideally yes I would want someone who waited for marriage uh realistically it's not
00:36:23
Carla Elialikely going to happen if if I got you I got you dude we get no no no no no don't you have any nice Christian girls that you know hold on yeah yeah I got you got you go hold on you you got options I
00:36:33
Carla Eliahave over a million followers and a lot of my a lot of my girls are virgins who are like waiting for marriage and I was one of those as well so like that's
00:36:44
Brian Atlasextremely respectable you have option oh you were you also you yeah I waited really oh good good not like born again virgin like no legit I hadity everything
00:36:54
Mason Gregoireborn again virgin uh no no no no no no yeah like do people believe in Born Again virgins like when yeah there are people who believe in it um generally the people that espouse that are um uh
00:37:07
Mason Gregoirewhat what how do I want to say this they no no no no no no I mean but it's like a it's like a
00:37:18
Mason Gregoiresinning no no it's more like uh they want to absolve all accountability they don't want to work through the relationship baggage so they want to find somebody he just going to be like ah I'm just going to ignore all of that
00:37:30
Mason Gregoirecuz like eventually you got to you got to start to work through that okay these are the other guys I've been with these are the connections I've made we got to work through that so that's that's a lot
00:37:41
Mason Gregoireof work and it's not like I'm not willing to go through that but uh it's a lot of work it's a lot of deprogramming that I have to go through with this potential other person yeah you're good
00:37:52
Carla Eliabro you don't need you can find a virgin and I believe they're out there yeah and if even if you did have to work through it that girl is going to be your dream girl and you wouldn't mind it either you
00:38:04
Brian Atlaswould he my mind just saying as his Godfather as Godfather he's going to mind I I'm going to be there I'm your best man right for your wedding of course yeah it's already determined
00:38:14
Brian Atlasright um we just met like a couple days ago whatever um the vibe is on we felt it romance r no no no like Mason you I I will you
00:38:25
Brian Atlasknow what with weddings that speak now or forever your peace if anybodys I don't think I don't think they actually do that but I'm going to stand up be like nah she's not the one bro she's not
00:38:37
Brian Atlasa virgin she's not it okay no I am how do you know she's not a virgin no himman no diamond so how did you find that out that's what I want to know to and just like uh I don't want to do like
00:38:49
Brian Atlasfake news uh you can even if you're himman isn't not intact you can still be a virgin but correct but as just a matter of speech uh wait what was the question how do you find out if she's a
00:39:00
Kenderly Ryanvirgin yeah I was asking you I was implying something oh how do I find out oh my goodness never mind that went over like are you asking if I would in what I was implying that you had already
00:39:12
Brian Atlasbeen with his wife before he married her who is that like Prima Prima like I get the first I think like back in the 1500s Lords would like
00:39:23
Kenderly Ryancall dibs on a dudes did you know they like to watch messed up up they had women give birth so they could watch it for their pleasure back then so weird they had nothing so weird they had
00:39:35
Holly Treatsnothing back then that was their entertainment M the K like the power that was the adult industry yeah the 1500 crazy that was a peep show back then when they had nothing people
00:39:47
Brian Atlashave been degenerate since the beginning of time no really since the aren't Jezebels in the Bible it used to be worse yeah y there we go okay all right well there we go we've gone around the table I want to get into some of my uh
00:40:00
Brian Atlaspre-show notes here that some of you guys have uh so kindly provided so I think the first one and there's a lot of things that we have to react to that we have to get to um so we're going to try
00:40:11
Brian Atlasto move as quickly as possible try to get through it let's start with um here who are we going to start with I think we're going to start with Abigail you did you had this Tik Tok
00:40:22
Brian Atlasvideo it kind of went viral Matt Walsh from the daily wire reacted to it um why don't we watch the whole thing uh the Tik Tok we'll watch A short segment
00:40:32
Kenderly Ryanfrom Matt Matt Walsh's think and uh yeah well whoa oh lovely flattering at least you still look pretty yeah seriously go
00:40:43
Abigailahead oh just came to the realization why I'm single
00:40:54
Abigaila every guy that I'm like oh yeah he's attractive okay this is not supposed to be offensive but I see their wives and they just look like
00:41:06
Abigailso like you know like not like this just
00:41:16
Abigaillike you know like I pretend my tattoos are gone dude I'm I look crazy like that's why guys don't want to
00:41:28
Abigailwife me up and I just come to this realization today
00:41:41
Abigailsee I love that or maybe it's because all them see me eat sushi after I get out of the grocery store in my car with my bare
00:41:50
Abigailfingers and drink sweet tea oh no
00:41:59
Abigailguys I thought these been one of like you know big strong tough
00:42:10
Abigailgirls I don't know I feel like all of them are like like super girly and all these guys are like yeah that's my girl that's she's like housewife stuff and
00:42:21
AbigailI'm over here like I own my own business I'm covered in tattoos I'm a little fzy but that's okay we embrace it but yeah I I don't think any guys
00:42:34
Brian Atlasgoing to wipe me up because they can't take me seriously and I just realize that damn I have the video froze for a second pause it for a sec uh let's read some of
00:42:48
Brian Atlasthe comments Nick can you move us over uh Nathan says it's the eyelashes for me fake eyelashes are complete turn
00:43:00
Brian Atlasoff people scroll down a little bit on that nose ring and what okay I don't like the tooth thing okay I know I was like dang I'm passed out door say nose
00:43:13
Brian Atlasrings it seems like a lot of people don't like the nose ring the oh maybe Harry likes he says 100 I don't know um so you posted this it went viral what
00:43:24
Abigailwhat's your take on it going viral and uh well I didn't think it was going to go viral number one like I just do random like ranting videos in my car
00:43:34
Abigailsometimes was that pre gym or post gym or that was post gy I tell it from my hair and my pump not from the hair but it was more like the arm pum well the
00:43:45
Abigailarm pump but like the general exhaustion that you exuded yeah my brain freezing yeah the brain freezing and yeah work out I had my sweet tea in my hand yeah I
00:43:55
Abigailjust got done eating sushi in my car so okay yeah so um I don't know I just never thought it was going to go viral
00:44:04
Abigaillike that but I really do the girls I do see with their husbands are very like you know they're very cut see they don't have any tattoos they don't have any piercings they don't look like big
00:44:17
Abigaillifter girls and then the ones that I do see that have like piercings tattoos and lift with their husbands or in open relationship no offense but they're in
00:44:27
Abigailopen relationship and they're just like not committed to each other and I just I just never see like you know commitment just oneon-one
00:44:37
Abigailand just with each other with people that look like me and are at the gym and stuff and that's what I look for and I feel like I've struggled with that a lot because everyone at the gym sees me they don't take me seriously and I want a
00:44:50
Abigailserious relationship and I feel like it's just hasn't been possible for me yet so and you think that's due to your your appearance or your demeanor what do you think I think so and I I my demeanor
00:45:01
Abigailis very Alpha at the gym cuz I own my own personal training business and if the right guy comes along and he leads the relationship I don't mind like having I don't want that Alpha attitude
00:45:14
Abigailat home like I already have to do it at work but guys think I want to do that like at home too and I don't so I'm very misconceived because of what I do and what I look like so are you are you
00:45:25
Abigaillooking for a man that you can submit to or step under and I don't mind letting a man lead if he's going to do it right if he provides for me I'm going to provide
00:45:35
Mason Gregoiregiven that you find a man who is I could like a man that is you identify as I would put myself under his leadership and I would follow him to the ends of
00:45:45
Carla Eliathe Earth absolutely yeah okay Carla you're the the woman's dating coach relationship expert what do you think first of all I do want to say that
00:45:58
Carla Eliathere you don't have to look a specific way I know that I look a specific way but girl I'm thick and I used to think that too I used to think there's there's no man that's going to like me the way I am I'm Latina I have curves like I I
00:46:10
Carla Eliaknow what I have and I know what I don't have but what I would say is there's someone for everyone and I will admit that there is like this ying and yang when it comes to feminine energy and masculine energy I know that
00:46:23
Carla Eliathose two terms are overused time and time again and I will will say appearances do matter I literally just made a video on like beauty is currency but you're beautiful and you know you go and I feel like you uh you know you
00:46:35
Carla Eliayou're a business owner I'm a business owner too so it's just like learning how to manage th that feminine energy and presenting it in the right way in the right rooms and putting yourself in the right places so that's like I know and a
00:46:48
Abigaillot of people see me at the gym and I present myself in a very almost like you know Alpha dominant way because I'm training people I'm taking control of the situation can you meet someone outside of the gym or I'm literally
00:47:02
Brian Atlasthere all the time I don't go out I don't I don't do anything would you date a guy who like isn't you know does he have to be a gy GU does he have to be a gym guy does he have to be he could be like a dad B I mean I would prefer it
00:47:13
Holly Treatsbecause I'm very heavily involved and I like right commonality but you you'd be open to dating a guy with a dad bod for example um yes I have I what if you find the dad bods are like better for you
00:47:25
Monica (Swedish Bella)like like not maybe the dad bod but like what they do for you in your life would you like like I'm open yeah I'm single you had something go ahead I mean I know
00:47:36
Monica (Swedish Bella)from myself and the way I look if I wasn't married I'd probably be single as well because I'm very Alpha I joke like
00:47:45
Monica (Swedish Bella)a dude and I have a deeper voice I was born with this voice so I know I get a lot of for it but that's fine um
00:47:55
Monica (Swedish Bella)but I would probably be single just because I'm I'm Alpha outwards but I'm submissive to the man I'm with if he has
00:48:04
Monica (Swedish Bella)the right energy so you know I I feel you on that because I get that a lot on my Instagram and Tik Tok you know that we don't like muscle uh you have
00:48:17
Kenderly Ryansomething go ahead well in my most recent ex going into it he was the alpha by the end he was the sub so because of my masculine energy it kind of put him down and he couldn't handle it is that
00:48:29
Kenderly Ryankind of what you just saw as like the end of the relationship was kind of that shift yeah cuz he couldn't provide for me anymore so I was financially providing I was emotionally providing and I was turned off I was like I'm not
00:48:40
Carla Eliadoing this anymore okay so I actually help women to kind of not kind of but to learn how to balance those two energies out because it is I mean for myself as
00:48:51
Carla Eliawell like I was extremely masculine or very independent very dominant but I had to learn learn how to work through it and it was because I was on survival mode so I speak on survival mode a lot and so when how you were saying how if
00:49:04
Carla Eliayou're providing all the time it's exhausting and so you really want to look for a a man that can lead and I think all of us are well for at least myself at the time that I was single I was looking for a man that could lead
00:49:15
Carla Eliaand make me feel safe because it's so easy for a woman to be able to submit to a man when she feels loved safe protected and provided for it's like instinct but to find a man like that it
00:49:28
Monica (Swedish Bella)can be very challenging so that's why I'm here and I stepped into the dating Market to try to fix it yeah and then and then on top of it like when guys come across girls oh hold on just one
00:49:50
TTS/Donationssec I got pleas take you commanding voice I'm flattered Derek do you want to say anything to Derrick the traitor I mean I
00:50:02
Brian Atlasdon't swing that way but uh dang dude that's a massive compliment anyway I can help were you able to understand through the thick Japanese accent it should be changed now it should be changed it's
00:50:13
Mason Gregoireback to the sorry Derek the Traer I it's back to the the British yeah I definitely didn't read the comment I listened to the Japanese and was like oh yes I understand you VI you I VI the yes
00:50:26
Brian Atlasyou know the thing is though I think on the whole like submissive thing whatever I think you said kind of instinctually women want a man to be a
00:50:36
Brian Atlasleader but there's programming in society typically from feminism which tells women to go be boss babes and
00:50:46
Brian Atlasto you know you can be that leader well so so I think what you have is despite women's women still like on some as you said instinctual level want a leader yet
00:50:58
Brian Atlasit's not clear to me if granted and I think men are also failing at this too in the sense that there's a lot of men that are not up to par but I also think that even if they do find a man who's up
00:51:09
Brian Atlasto par a lot of women are not prepared to follow they want to be led but they don't because in order to be led you need to be a follower that's the Paradigm so I think a lot of women are
00:51:20
Holly Treatsnot prepared to be followers so well uh I have something to add sure I I I I used to struggle with my balance of feminine and masculine and masculine energy because I work a lot and it is
00:51:32
Holly Treatssuper easy to fall you have to get stuff done and it it is hard right but I I've met guys recently where it's like yeah like I have no problem submitting to you I feel safe like whether or not you're
00:51:44
Holly Treatshaving a drink or you say a stupid joke or whatever thing that happens that makes me slightly disrespect you in that moment you're still my leader you know what I mean wait hold on like wait wait
00:51:54
Holly Treatsso hold on listen we're humans a guy if You' heard for example this is like 8 years in a relationship thing when you've heard the exact same joke said the same way 30 million times and you have to laugh because he's around his
00:52:07
Holly Treatsfriends or whatever and you don't want it's like he needs his moment to say his joke that you've heard for the 30 millionth time and you can't take away his flowers for that right so it's like stuff like that where you're just like okay you might have done this little thing that like triggered me a little
00:52:20
Holly Treatsbit but like you know what I mean like you just need to like no I don't know what you mean what do you mean by disrespecting your partner what do you mean no like it's like you might as a woman get the urge sometimes to be like wow I don't like that he did that I want
00:52:31
Holly Treatsto say something I want to like you know he's trying to like say you're out with your partner and he's trying to like the attention's on him the conversation's on him and you just the wife doesn't like something he does or did or said or
00:52:43
Holly Treatsmoved and she just like makes a face like while he's trying you know that's something I see a lot right just like out saying that's like a good thing I'm not saying it's a good thing I'm saying
00:52:54
Gloria Calderoneyeah goad so I am say I what I'm noticing a lot on Instagram with this whole like cuz you know things become Trends right and I am seeing that a lot of people are getting into this like femininity masculinity like all right I
00:53:07
Gloria Calderonethink everyone's getting it wrong it doesn't mean like if you give your husband or boyfriend like a stting face that's not what it means right like for example I am Christian and I do go by
00:53:17
Gloria Calderonethe Bible but a lot of what the Bible does say it just makes sense right so basically what it is is when you're going to be submissive it doesn't mean
00:53:28
Gloria Calderonelike you don't have a voice it doesn't mean you can't have a business it doesn't mean you can't have Alpha energy it's just that so in the like this is I know this in Spanish I don't know like
00:53:41
Gloria Calderonethe verse cuz I'm not great at that but it does say that when a woman gets really annoying she'll like destroy her home right so you just have
00:53:53
Gloria Calderoneit's not about being submissive of like oh I'm going to listen to what you say I'm not going to like talk back whatever no it's more of like you just have to analyze and think about how you're going to direct your home right not putting
00:54:05
Gloria Calderoneout difficult energy like you have to you have to understand that men are logical beings we're emotional so that's our balance it's not about like submissive of like and like I
00:54:17
Gloria Calderonethink everyone's starting to get it wrong it's just like what what we both bring into the into a marriage what it should be into the marriage we're both giving each other what it needs back and
00:54:27
Gloria Calderoneforth right we're not logical but we can be smart and kind of lead that way and men are going to lead in a different way so we can still be leaders yeah I mean it's uh it's better to live on the corner of a roof than a house with a
00:54:40
Brian Atlascontentious woman yeah thank you or are you is that what Proverbs 2119 uh better better to live well I think it's phrased differently depending
00:54:51
Brian Atlason the it depends on the translation yeah but I I've heard better to live in the desert than with a nagging and celome that's another one go ahead I think when you go out with your husband
00:55:02
Monica (Swedish Bella)and he does something and you just stare at him you you like for me personally I just don't want to take the fight in public I'll do it if I have to it's just I don't want to because it's going to cause cause a scene and it's embarrassing yeah you should do that
00:55:15
Brian Atlasprivately so I I don't think it has to do with you being what wait so what are these embarrassing things that your husbands and boyfriends are are doing I
00:55:24
Monica (Swedish Bella)mean my ex was was like um abusive so he would say things about for example my body I didn't like in front of other people in public yeah in public when we
00:55:36
Monica (Swedish Bella)were like hanging out that's a y stuff like that was you know I could take the fight and I could be like well you're fat so yeah I mean I could do it I like
00:55:47
Kenderly Ryana healthy relationship yes super healthy that's why we were you had something go ahead yeah my recent ex when he was Alpha uh we'd be out out and about you know whatever and if there's something
00:55:58
Kenderly Ryanhe's telling me to do it's like hey come over here stand here but it was a SE a different type of voice than like a concerned but angry voice I knew to be like don't question him do it follow his word follow his lead and every time it
00:56:12
Kenderly Ryanwas cuz he was protecting me from someone on the other side he saw coming at me looking at me so like that type of submission yes 100% I also think that
00:56:20
Kenderly Ryanwomen have gone too extreme with the I'm a boss I don't need anyone like but everyone needs someone I mean men are just wired to be protectors exactly so
00:56:32
Mason Gregoirethey're they they see those threats like that's just what they are the offender donated $100 brain what in the name of all that is Holy do you have on don't tell me you've developed some kind of Kink with
00:56:45
Brian Atlasthat thing um wait what oh this thing yeah oh this is like a massage tool my back's hurting so it's not like a it does look
00:56:56
Mason Gregoirefunny it's not like a uh a king although this part looks a little phallic I get it but sure about that hey I've seen a lot of people in the fitness industry use those things what are they called
00:57:07
Brian AtlasShephard's Crooks I use it exact yeah you know my back's been bugging me so um all right oh you have something quick then I do want to move on a little bit but go ahead yeah so I I really want to
00:57:18
Carla Eliaput the place of blame on the public school education so I think that that's it's not women or men's fault I think it's the way that the public school system is ran they're going too far with being a boss babe and things like that