Michael Knowles DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Are OF/E-Girls Traditional?! | Dating Talk #132
Date: 2024-02-02
Duration: 6h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Sophie(guest)
SPEAKER_03Nicollet(guest)
SPEAKER_06Michael Knowles(guest)
SPEAKER_07Madison Vu(guest)
SPEAKER_09Maddie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Cindy Zang(guest)
SPEAKER_11Mia Huffman(guest)
SPEAKER_12Naomi Lynn(guest)
Key Moments
00:06:38
IntroMichael Knowles introduction - 'I am a cigar salesman and I do not yet do only fans'
“I'm Michael nolles I am a cigar salesman and I do not yet do only fans and I don't intend to”
00:08:08
Key MomentSophie reveals her ex-fiance was born female and transitioned to male mid-engagement
“when we started dating he said I'm a woman I want to be treated like a woman and then he transitioned”
01:32:49
QuoteNaomi Lynn reveals she left a six-figure corporate director-of-sales job for OnlyFans
“I was a director of sales... six figures regardless... I quit it to do only fans”
01:35:35
QuoteMaddie discloses she's made $200-300K from sugar daddies and 100-200 paid dates
“probably a few hundred thousand... should we say 300,000 safe number”
01:43:46
QuoteCindy reveals a fan pre-paid $10K to spit on him; meetup not yet happened
“one of my fans said they would pay like $10,000 for me to spit on them... yeah I said yeah I'm down”
02:07:06
QuoteMichael Knowles on the road to redemption for OF girls: stop, then go to church
“the very first thing I would recommend doing is stop... go to church as much as you want to”
02:20:44
ControversyCindy accuses Brian of subscribing to her OnlyFans after seeing 'Brian Atlas' in her subscriber list
“I saw in my statements as this your your first and last name”
03:49:31
QuoteRatings round - Brian self-rates as a 5 due to gained weight/dad bod
“I used to rate myself a six however I've gained a bit of weight... I'm now a five cuz I got a bit of a dad bod”
11:12:00
Key MomentMadison Vu discloses frat-rat history at Cal Poly Pomona; walked in on by frat members
“I used to go to Cal Poly Pomona I was a little frat rat... walked in on by the whole frat no just like large groups”
Topics Discussed
00:05:39
Guest introductions and relationship statuses
Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Then relationship status round. Sophie's broken engagement to a trans man is a major discussion point.
01:25:00
OnlyFans and sex work economy
Discussion of sugar daddies, pay pigs, 'What's Your Price' app, escort-adjacent paid dates. Maddie describes 100-200 paid dates and a $100K sugar daddy. Cindy discusses a fan paying $10K to spit on him.
02:10:00
Michael Knowles debates OF girls on relationships and marriage
Michael Knowles challenges the panel on how OnlyFans/sex work affects long-term relationship prospects. Discussion of whether women can 'have it all' and still find a quality partner later.
03:06:40
Feminism, equal pay, women's sports
Maddie says she supports feminism but 'not over the top'. Discussion of WNBA pay equity, women's soccer, and whether equal pay demands are consistent.
03:18:20
Aliens, religion, and the supernatural
Michael argues aliens are 'just demons for libs' and there's no evidence for extraterrestrial life. Cindy and Naomi say they'd date an alien if rich/attractive enough.
03:49:31
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)
Everyone rates their looks 1-10. Most women say 10. Brian rates himself 5 (gained weight, dad bod). Michael rates himself 8.
03:56:40
Dating preferences and exclusivity
Brian explains he wants women who are exclusively interested in him from first date; no other men in the picture. Panel pushes back on this as unrealistic.
04:08:20
Plastic surgery debate
Debate over labiaplasty, breast implants, BBLs. Naomi (SPEAKER_12) reveals she had a labiaplasty during a year of celibacy. Brian argues plastic surgery is a proxy for mental illness or excessive vanity.
04:30:00
Religion, Christianity, and porn
Michael Knowles debates Cindy on wearing a cross while doing porn. Sophie discusses her Biblical scholarship and her non-denominational Christian background. Broader discussion of Catholicism, Bible translation, abortion.
05:25:00
Makeup and physical deception
Brian argues makeup is deceptive; panel defends makeup as self-expression. Comparison to men wearing shoe lifts or toupees. Makeup transformation videos shown.
Transcript
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04:46:33
Michael Knowlesyou're Distributing videos picture making a video it's you know yeah not am I going to take it off when I'm like then you would have to acknowledge that there's a problem I I wear a scapular
04:46:44
Michael Knowlesyou which is like a Catholic Catholic version of that right here and uh if I'm going to commit a sin or something I I feel an Impulse to uh take it off because I think oh it's kind of sacreligious if I'm like committing and but then then I think like well I
04:46:57
Cindy Zangprobably just shouldn't commit the sin right you know and then I don't need to reconcile it but it it is that kind of a conf and I also wear just because I like I'm protected um and God always is it's a symbol of a broader Grace from God yes
04:47:11
Michael Knowlesdefinitely and there's only one God and I I don't not like Rec not doing any of that what you were saying you think that the the pro prohibitions of sexual immorality in
04:47:23
Cindy Zangthe Bible are just optional it's not optional is you have to follow his path and his words and not
04:47:34
Cindy Zangto lie steal and all those stuff those are not good um I don't like I don't partake in those acts uh and but you you do I'm like I'm not telling Tales out of
04:47:46
Michael Knowlesschool you do partake in sexual immorality it's your job so you're saying okay the lying is bad I'm going to follow that one the stealing is bad I'm going to follow that one but ah the sixth commandment we're going to skip
04:47:57
Michael Knowlesover that one and uh what's the seventh one yeah I'll do that one that one too is that it you're saying some of it's optional and some of it's mandatory or or you're saying that you have a conflict and you're just trying to work it out which is probably actually what's
04:48:09
Cindy Zanggoing on I'm not but I enjoy what I do so I really don't like I really do not think
04:48:18
Michael Knowlesthat there's anything wrong with my job so if the if the Bible says it is that there is something wrong then you don't believe the
04:48:30
TTS/DonationsBible not everything in the Bible is true everything in the Bible nion donated $200 you say you pray all the time but you forget the important part listening
04:48:43
Brian Atlasmaybe God brought you here to realize the mistakes you're making and change instead you get defensive and don't listen hey Nickelodeon thank you for the uh TTS thank you for the TTS well you uh
04:48:55
Brian Atlasif you guys want to continue on I mean I think you're actually making a very interesting point um I mean cind you do want to respond he Michael Michael was saying that well if Bible says X but you
04:49:05
Michael Knowlesit sounds like you don't believe in I don't want to if you want to restate your point sure you you're saying I don't have a conflict here I don't think anything that I'm doing is wrong but the Bible says that the thing you're doing
04:49:18
Michael Knowlesis wrong and so again I'm not not thumping on the Bible here I'm just trying to make sense of the two things you've said that are that contradict one
04:49:27
Cindy Zanganother okay me partaking in adult content is contradic what the Bible says sexual immorality sexual immorality okay uh or
04:49:39
Cindy Zangyou know the woman at the well or you know right any number of books of the Old Testament right so I I just feel like even like people who are a prostitute who like whatever
04:49:50
Michael Knowleslike in sexual content they're they're really not doing anything wrong like at the end of the day Christianity says they are and Christianity says you're welcome to come in and you are afforded the grace of God and you can have Redemption and what but Christianity
04:50:02
Michael Knowlesalso says go forth and sin no more so is her choice to then reject the religion uh well I wouldn't recommend that okay I would recommend keeping your faith do you think that God loves
04:50:14
Michael Knowleseveryone yes okay so but God loves you too much to keep you as you are is is the reality of it and so I'm not suggesting you abandon your faith at all I'm suggesting you abandon the things that you're doing
04:50:26
Michael Knowlesthat contradict your profess Faith because otherwise you won't actually have your faith you you'll have confu you will have diluted yourself into telling yourself you believe in this religion when you consciously reject
04:50:39
Michael Knowlesimportant parts of it well there's a lot of important parts of believing and you should believe all in the religion yeah are you Christian or Catholic well you know Believe It or
04:50:49
Michael KnowlesNot uh Catholics are Christian some would call us the original and perhaps exclusive I just asking for clarification okay no you're right I'm a little sassy I get a little defensive
04:51:02
Brian AtlasI'm not even religious but getting clarifications wait can we at least Cindy what what do you think about this proposal right okay could you at least I'm not going to even ask you to
04:51:13
Brian Atlasremove the link or The God first at least put like two spaces in between like maybe put like I'm in Los Angeles you know like put
04:51:24
Brian Atlaslike a here's here's like a location pin I'm in La Only God can judge her okay and then maybe like another line which is like I don't know um
04:51:35
Michael Knowlesum I'm uh I barely know why are you asking me to there social it I like that it's there and I like that you wear the cross because it's a remind and you said well if I'm doing a thing that's bad
04:51:47
Michael Knowlesmaybe I'd be tempted to take the cross off but I'm not going to take it off I like wearing it it's a symbol of God's grace and that's all true but then it the symbol should should act on you
04:51:57
Brian Atlasmaybe two lines is all I'm asking two lines located in the Los Angeles Instagram what does your Instagram look like it's really not that interesting look you know maybe maybe maybe I mean
04:52:10
Brian Atlaswe could we could pull it up if you want we can it's uh that's fine and maybe like you're an aquarius I know why you're judging your asy Instagram bio is just like oh look at that uh okay uh
04:52:21
Brian Atlasfounder of big labia matter founder of no.org live in Santa Barbara and then a link to my uh whatever.com at that Pickard that one beard you don't like the beard one I like it one yeah like
04:52:34
Brian Atlasokay all right Brian Benin Atlas or something yeah there you go I never will grow a beard that long again but it was a period of I was going through a uh exploratory considering becoming an
04:52:46
SophieEastern Orthodox priest pretty much exactly you look like Dan to ask you some questions you can do you think that being um in the Christian religion relies more on following the rules of
04:52:57
Michael Knowlesthe Bible or having a personal and close relationship with God I don't see a difference between the two you know really yeah cuz our faith is incarnational so our Lord comes down and
04:53:07
Michael Knowlesis born on Christmas and lives for 33 years and is goes through his passion and is crucified died and buried and on the third day he rises again and he roams the Earth for 40 days and ascends
04:53:19
Michael Knowlesto God the Father in heaven and so he leaves on earth a physical expression of his body which is the church and he says to St Peter you are now Peter Simon and and on this rock I'll build my church and the Gates of Hell will not Prevail against it I give you the keys to the
04:53:31
Michael Knowleskingdom of heaven what you bind on Earth will be bound in heaven what you loose on Earth will be loosed in heaven you have the power to forgive sins whose sins you forgive or forgiven whose sins you retain or retain and so he says when you meet you know uh this is my body
04:53:44
Michael Knowleswhich will be given up for you this this wine is my blood which will be given up for you and uh consume this in memory of me a Living Sacrifice so he institutes all these sacraments confession the Eucharist he
04:53:55
Michael Knowlesinstitutes a physical church with real people and and and so God uh God's grace and his relation to us is has a physical for it's not just like floating in The Ether you know and the physical form of that is the church that has endured
04:54:08
Michael Knowlesthroughout the ages uh and the against which the Gates of Hell will not Prevail what would you say to the 20-year-old Michael that was watching porn I would say look there were a lot worse things
04:54:18
Sophieprobably that uh 20-year-old Michael was engaging in and I would say cut it out I have another question for you do you feel like as time has gone on and New
04:54:29
SophieConcepts and new words um have been created and the Bible has been translated over and over again do you feel like the Bible today is God's original word for us yeah I think it's
04:54:39
Michael Knowlesinherent and I think that the church is preserved from error you know in dogmatic teachings by a divine grace because our Lord says I will never leave the church you know I I will be with you even until the end of the age and I will
04:54:51
Michael Knowlessend the the paraclet I'll send the Holy Spirit down to the church and so yeah I know it's really odd because institutions Decay and change over time the translation thing is not as big an issue I mean if you I go to a
04:55:02
Michael Knowlestraditional Latin mass and so we use the Latin Vulgate and so that you know St Jerome translated that one it goes back pretty far um but uh you know hir Bello had a good line which is he said I have
04:55:15
Michael Knowlesto believe that the Catholic church is divinely instituted by my faith but for those who don't believe a proof of its Divine institution is that no other institution conducted with such navish imbecility would have lasted a fortnite
04:55:26
Michael Knowlesso actually the fact that so many leaders of the church have just been incompetent and done bad things and and the fact that the faith remains this is the most enduring institution ever in the history of the world 2,000 years
04:55:38
Michael Knowlesit's just it boggles the mind that this thing still exists uh is seems to me a good sign that actually the church is preserved from error at least in the long run um how do you feel about the
04:55:50
Michael KnowlesCatholic Church removing several books from the Bible you're you're confusing that with the Protestants I think the Protestants removed uh book I could be wrong one was called The Book of Jubilee
04:56:01
Michael KnowlesI'm I think another one was so the the Catholic Church codifies the Bible right the Canon the Canon of the Bible it's not like that existed you know before the church the Canon of the Bible is is many books of the Bible are written obviously after the the resurrection and
04:56:15
Michael Knowlesso there are all these different books out there and some books seem legit and some books don't seem legit so there's a book like the heretical Gospel of Thomas which if you've ever read it it's pretty wacky and that book is not included in
04:56:26
Michael Knowlesthe Canon of the Bible but the the reason for that is that the um Church in her wisdom comes together in ecumenical councils and codifies the Bible very early on in in Antiquity and excludes certain books obviously you're not going
04:56:39
Michael Knowlesto include every book in the Bible and includes others and so uh I I think having read some of the books that were excluded uh that the church acted with great wisdom but how do you know if
04:56:48
Michael Knowlessinful men and a church of this world are the is the Chet it's a it's a church that you you must believe uh has a Divine protection to preserve her from
04:57:00
Michael Knowleserror or or she's just not the church so this church basically has the decision of God to delete these books yeah the the the church has the ab well not to the books were never there
04:57:12
Michael Knowlesto delete right the church assembles the cannon of the Bible and includes certain books and excludes other books it also you know it doesn't include the Egyptian Book of the Dead either but there are plenty of books that wouldn't include it so the Bible was made by man then it it
04:57:24
Michael Knowleswas their decision to include some books and delete some books and no it didn't delete anything the Bible was I mean certain like Protestant reformers reformers later on erased books of the Bible but the the Bible was was put
04:57:36
Michael Knowlestogether by the Holy Catholic church so there was no deletion going on but there was an assembly of the of the Bible with all of these books and yes that it was uh done by man because our Lord becomes man he is fully God but he takes on
04:57:49
Michael Knowlesflesh and he institutes a church made up of men who have their own failings but who have received a Divine protection if you believe what our Lord says is a
04:57:57
Sophiedivine intervention yeah okay okay I respect that opinion I disagree but I respect that see there something
04:58:11
Michael Knowlesto mull on we can discuss it over the cigar when we're all having cigars after the show I would disagree too I disagree with what would you what would you disagree with I think I'm more I think
04:58:22
SophieI'm sorry I think religion is very it can be a very toxic thing um I think some certainly can yeah not necessarily if it's false I think um men are Sinners
04:58:33
Sophieand putting together groups of Sinners um obviously it's going to have disagreements and fallbacks and things that not everyone is going to agree on
04:58:44
Sophieand people are going to come at other people but I think at the end of the day it's been I don't deny that there is a God um but I think there's been thousands of years and thousands of
04:58:57
Sophieyears in different interpretations of the Bible and even within my 16 years of church and Christan school um I would go back and translate these texts and even
04:59:08
Michael Knowlesif it's like small things I've seen some small would translate like the Greek and Hebrew of the Bible to the best of my abilities yeah to the best of my abilities it's very impressive I don't have ancient Greek and ancient Hebrew I don't have I don't have that I barely
04:59:21
Sophiespeak Italian little French just as far back as I could translate it I used to be very interested in the Bible and I think you what do you mean as far back as you could translate it like as far back as humans have the capability to
04:59:32
Sophietranslate the most ancient text that were able to translate like the septu agent for instance I'm just very impressed I there are very few people who have a work it was shortly after I
04:59:43
Sophiecame out as um lesbian and it was when I was getting a lot of push back from my school I actually got kicked out of my my of my private school for it so it was something that me and my old stepmom
04:59:56
Sophieused to do she was like if you're really sinning then you know this is something we're going to sit down and figure out together and we sat down and translated every Bible verse to the best of our ability that had the word homosexual and
05:00:07
Sophiehomosexual wasn't even a word it said no man shall lay with a boy that's what it was talking about in a lot of those verses so I think a lot I don't think that's really true but St Paul also mentions together my personal opinion and my research to the best of my
05:00:20
Michael Knowlesabilities it was a few years ago and maybe I'd come to a different conclusion now but um yeah so that's the the question is one well the question is one of authority you know so you're saying well look I went back and to the best of
05:00:31
Michael Knowlesmy command of ancient Greek and Hebrew I translated these books of the Bible and and I think that's a good exercise my friend Drew claven learned ancient Greek to read the Gospel of John like 5 years ago uh but you know if I had to trust
05:00:43
Michael Knowlesyour translation or say um St Jerome or somebody I'd probably go with not only with St Jerome but then it gets to a question of authority who has the ultimate Authority who has the keys to the kingdom of heaven St Peter and his
05:00:55
Sophiesuccessors in the Holy Catholic church or you or me I think I have slightly different opinions because when I was Christian it was non non- denominational
05:01:04
SophieChristian so um yeah I think um with my own relationship with God I'm more spiritual less religious um but I do
05:01:13
Sophiefeel like my relationship with God has more to do with just talking to him in the daily and you know like knowing what is for good and what is not and knowing that he's going to drive me to do what
05:01:26
Michael Knowlesis good and tell but the imagination of man man's heart is inclined to evil from his youth so you know I I think think it's great to pray and have personal prayer I engage in personal prayer but the term spiritual but not
05:01:38
Michael Knowlesreligious that is the description of a demon you know because religion is the habit of virtue that inclines the will to give to God the worship he deserves so you you don't have to read the Bible and go to church every Sunday to believe
05:01:50
Sophiein God no you don't but if you do believe in God and you believe in the Christian religion then you would also do I think it just has to do with different opinions between us I see your point but I think my personal opinion is I think the Bible is not I think it's
05:02:02
Sophieit's reliable but I do not think it's 100% the same way that gond intended it to be why not why do you even think it's reliable because you know it has a lot
05:02:14
Sophieof questions of morals and stuff like that and just basic goodness and but I mean it can be taken as a lot
05:02:25
Sophieof the stories is a fairy tale and it's kind of up to you to determine what God meant as you know well there aren't any fairy tales there are like Parables and there are there is wisdom God me literally and what God means not
05:02:38
Sophieliterally and I think through a lot of translations difference literal meanings and literal meanings meanings of the text I mean literally as in how we use Parables to express like stories the
05:02:50
Michael Knowlesissue is though I'm being a little cheeky about it but the word literal refers to letters which are symbols and so I you know we're talking about a faith where the where the second person of the Trinity it's a bit cheeky we're talking
05:03:01
Michael Knowlesabout a demon I'm not saying spiritual people are demons I'm saying that spiritual but not religious is a description of the Demonic because demons are spirits that
05:03:12
Naomi Lynndon't worship God and religion is to I'm sorry I missed the rest of the conversation but like what if you do believe in God but you're not tied to one specific religion well then which
05:03:23
Michael KnowlesGod are you worshiping whatever God it is well religion will be will provide the answer to that question one way or the other but you know you can't worship all of them at the same time so you know
05:03:36
Michael Knowlesreligion does constrict certain things as a lot of people today would say well I don't want it to constrict certain things but you know poems need um limits in order to be beautiful you know countries need
05:03:48
Michael Knowlesborders in order to be a country and uh the worship if you worship one God that means you are excluding other gods from your worship which means you're picking one religion over the other whether you
05:03:57
Cindy Zanglike it or not but God himself is not a religion and I feel Rel is God the way that he deserves that's the basic meaning of religion I am you say you did say one
05:04:09
Brian Atlasthing but I am woring it worshiping him wait you did say one thing about how men men sin what did do you mean only men sin I was just a little I think it was mankind mankind is that I think I meant
05:04:21
Brian Atlasmankind I see okay okay okay the gender neutral man I see the gender neutral we actually have a clip related to this then we do have to wrap up here pretty soon in in hopefully a couple minutes uh Nick there was a this is somewhat
05:04:33
Brian Atlasrelated to the religious talk Nicollet you had a back and forth with Chase about how uh you're you do porn but you're still a Christian if I were those
05:04:44
Nicolletyour words something like that something like that yeah okay you're so you're Christian woman mhm yeah you certainly
05:04:53
Nicolletcan be you know I am sorry I'm just like I'm tired yeah you certainly yeah I am okay like it's if you're sin you know Christians sin
05:05:05
Maddieyeah so that but yeah you wouldn't want to like you wouldn't try to say it's a virtue Christian is all people sin like sin is a thing since day one since Adam
05:05:15
Maddieand Eve all people sin day two okay yeah when you get technical yeah um for
05:05:22
Maddieme Sin is Sin and I was I was raised up with the beliefs that God sees all sin on the same level and that Sin is Sin
05:05:33
Brian Atlasbut that's not um biblical wait Nick the V the video is in the Dropbox podcast video I do believe that every like DT
05:05:43
Cindy Zanghas their consequences right um if you lie if you steal there's zero consequences not good you know karma is real Karm Karm is totally fake at the end of the day everybody Karm Is Real at
05:05:56
Michael Knowlesthe end of the day everybody sins and not one person is perfect why do you think karma is not real because because the rain falls on the just and the just alike and we lament often in our lives that the evil flourish and the good
05:06:06
Michael Knowlessuffer uh so it's not just you know what you're describing is a a false religion of the self which says that I so you don't believe that when you do bad to other people bad isn't come I think that
05:06:18
Michael Knowleswhen I think that when you sin it has both Eternal and temporal effects that it unleashes and I I agree that Sinners often get their their comeuppance but they don't always get their comeuppance and people and the most virtuous people
05:06:30
Cindy Zangin the world suffer sometimes more you know what like I also do what I do because it's just a lot safer when I used to work for part like at a part-time job as a hostess I would get harassed either by my boss or people
05:06:42
Michael Knowlescustomers I think my job is safe I'm not under like I don't have to meet up with these people everything is just online it might maybe it's I mean some of us would maybe disagree that it's safer because there's like the stalkers and
05:06:56
Michael Knowlesall that kind of stuff too I don't have like I mean I know stalkers are real but regardless safe things you can do that are not not preferable or not ideal do
05:07:06
Brian Atlaswe have a clip let's a clip we'll read a couple chats and one more thing and then we'll try to wrap here uh okay you can play it if any young women are watching please do not model your lifestyle after
05:07:18
SPEAKER_05her thank you very much and that's from the Christian man yes I'm looking out for you young ladies if you ever I'm not judging you if you ever that's fine but if you ever want to get married there's a lot of young girls out there who want to get married someday if pictures of yourself doing sexual things are all
05:07:32
Nicolletover over the Internet your husband and your kids will not appreciate that what are your kids going to think of this I thinkest is doing just fine yeah she's living her life Kanye's
05:07:44
SPEAKER_05yeah she's doing great with her mom I mean giving the option between a mom who has porn on the Internet versus one who doesn't have porn on the internet I would prefer if all my friends couldn't see my mom other dudes and
05:07:54
Nicolletsucking their dicks I still consider myself a Christian I still consider myself a Christian I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins and I'm
05:08:03
Brian Atlasnot a judgmental person like you where was all this smoke we needed more of the smoke tonight nicholet uh
05:08:12
Nicolletwell I'll just say that chase is a hypocrite after that podcast he literally admitted that he watches porn so did what oh if I'm going to this not
05:08:24
Brian Atlasfair Chase is not here to defend I will not allow this hears you just asked for the smoke she brought smoke straight up real quick you say the
05:08:34
Michael Knowleslast line again yes I said if I'm going to hell then I will see Chase there neither of you need to go to H okay all right okay I don't know about
05:08:46
Brian Atlasthat here say you strike that from the record very unfair very unfair very unfair Chase is not here to oh wow okay she does not right I'm awake would you
05:08:56
Michael Knowlesdate Chase no I don't like white guys I thought you said you had all that white privilege that's why you want to get rid of the white privileg what uh which do you prefer I like Hispanic guys
05:09:08
Brian Atlasoh they can be white though we determined I there's race ethnicity it's all very confusing all right we have a chat here from our friend n Michael you started me on the road to cross the
05:09:18
Brian AtlasTyber and St Justin's writings brought me all the way home other than the Blessed Mother who is your favorite Saint in general I'm very partial to the Thomases because when I was 13 I picked I was getting confirmed but I was an atheist and my mother told me I was
05:09:32
Michael Knowlesgoing through a phase and I should get confirmed anyway and she was right so I picked Thomas cuz Thomas was the doubting Saint even though he that's like not totally fair to him but I also can't remember if I picked him or Thomas aquinus because I didn't really know the difference but Thomas means twin so it
05:09:45
Michael Knowleswas perhaps providential gave you two answers for one question all right do you feel like that Sacrament then is like no cuz the sacrament's not contingent on just like my felds you know the the sacrament if
05:09:57
Michael Knowlesyou really believe in sacraments meeting the physical and the metaphysical right so I think yeah even even if I'm being a jerk during it I think it counts the thought of you not wanting to do it though in that moment like it just kind
05:10:08
Michael Knowlesof sounds contradictory to me no it's really I think gives glory to God that the sacraments uh rest mostly on his grace and not on our efforts that's right Naomi interesting that's right at
05:10:21
Michael Knowlesleast in my view yeah what' you say I'm also confirmed I wanted to be confirmed all right hey here I am this is a largely Catholic panel cool man that's I love that we got Nickelodeon here they
05:10:32
Brian AtlasEd your removed uh genital skin for skin graphs my brother was born with no eyelid so they used hold on here what they used his for skin to create eyelids
05:10:43
Brian Atlasit came out okay he was a little cockeyed it's good I like it thank you Nickelodean sorry with that it took us a while to get to it um we have Curtis oh so that's good yeah I liked it Curtis
05:10:56
Brian AtlasLeon Brian there were a lot of Tents today pull out the makeup remover who is worthy of taking the challenge Brian when are you going to start the whatever only fans after show real Raw and Uncut I saw how you pulled out a makeup
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Maddiemakeup remover you want to you want to wipe off my makeup w we do have some uh Neutrogena I would love to take my makeup off I'm like sweating yeah I will too do you have sweatpants too seriously maybe aun while we're at it you got like
05:11:20
Cindy Zanga sandwich I could eat why don't we do why don't we do the makeup remover to and a hair after you guys actually want to do this Cindy you want I do but
05:11:31
Brian AtlasI don't want to very particular about my makeup and my try to get through the otherwise I would wait let's ask the chat chat do you guys want to should we should we do it chat should we do it chat do we have
05:11:43
Brian Atlasthem take their makeup off if not I'm doing it when I leave one in the chat one in the chat if you want them to take it off too in the chat if it's just like what disrup to the
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SPEAKER_08show happen I do remove your implants yes okay okay so who wants one me I can't use it it's break yeah I'm very particular about my skin care is it
05:12:05
Michael Knowlesjust me and Sophia sweet I saw he Korean skin unless you have like some guy in the Jack goes Michael you should have eaten 11 hours ago but no it's okay Brian got me a chicken
05:12:17
Brian Atlasthing a chicken so I'm not starving thank you though for your concern all right there we go uh let's see oh my okay we have what was the last thing we
05:12:26
Cindy Zanghad to do uh oh the last thing was just uh does body cow matter if it matters to you then that's awesome
05:12:35
Cindy Zangbut for okay so I don't want a guy that's ran through you know like yeah like a homosexual what you a guy that's ran through what do you mean
05:12:46
Maddieby a guy that that's Rand has a lot of girls girl okay not that he himself but I do prefer a guy with experience can you by the way when when
05:12:57
Brian Atlasyou guys are can you hold the the wipes up to the so like One Cheek in right now wow that's wow that's a lot of paint that's like me after my show every day I
05:13:10
Brian Atlaslisten I'm not a it they cake me really they they they give you you've got I mean I'm up close you got Flawless skin stop out of here that's the olive oil you don't need it okay um thanks body
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Brian Atlasright now body count I probably still have some for my show but not body do you object to men caring about a woman's body count a lot of women say well that's you shouldn't care that's insecure wouldn't you want a woman who
05:13:33
Maddiesex experence think that the guy who like is going to want to end up with me in the end is going to be upset if I've obviously a bunch of other guys
05:13:42
Maddiethat aren't him and I think that's his own right okay like do do a little I'm not taking my mascara off because that's going to be too much well that's fine but all right ladies and gentlemen that
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Brian Atlasis the damage okay Nicollet body count uh what's the question does it matter yeah do you object to men caring about body count uh I think it's stupid if
05:14:04
Brian Atlasthey care oh my God but you also hate men no not anymore I'm a changed woman she used to uh until she starts tweeting later
05:14:15
Brian Atlastonight um yeah until after this so okay it's it's stupid why why is it stupid are they insecure are men insecure if they don't want to be with a woman with a high body count is that it
05:14:27
NicolletI mean that's their preference okay sure but I don't care about a guy's body count so like he shouldn't care about mine okay Mia Huffman what about you
05:14:39
Madison VuI've never really been asked like by a partner by like somebody I'm dating but I don't think it matters necessarily but I also think just respect yourself that's really all it is respect yourself I love you Ken so
05:14:53
Brian Atlascute so she that's that straight up should have done the time lapse of the makeup removal it's all
05:15:03
Maddiegood all right I think we're done cool here's the front here's the back she's beautiful with and my whole makeup routine it's not that bad no it's
05:15:14
Brian Atlasbeautiful it's beautiful uh okay do I look different straight up answer do I look different without makeup a little bit little bit not a lot a little bit it's uh you know it's still you know yeah know it's good it's good okay it's
05:15:27
Cindy Zanggreat looking great so like it's not like it's not in a bad way it's not a bad wayment do you think that girls wear makeup to show off for guys yes y yep no
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Brian Atlasyep no I wear makeup to feel confident I'm not going to be gas lit by you I'm not gaslighting I'm just saying don't wear makeup to just to girls will do a whole face of makeup to get in the
05:15:50
Brian Atlasshower just cuz it's fun that's actually brain think that when I wake up in the morning and I put on makeup that is the most brain dead why would let me just let me just I think girls function better like seriously girls function
05:16:02
Brian Atlasbetter throughout the day when they think they look better so they get more done they think that they look better fast just but but using her they you say they function better so a woman's Capac accomplish more don't don't hold too
05:16:15
Sophiemuch on the function word a woman's capacity to enter a shower is improved if she's wearing a full face of no but have you ever heard of a pre-shower makeup routine is I have
05:16:27
Sophienot heard of just for fun just for fun and like girls will just do each other's makeup to go nowhere maybe afterwards we figure out somewhere to go cuz we look good as yeah it's just like a thing
05:16:39
Maddiethat like I get more done when I think I look better like I'm like if I look good I'm going to get more done and it's also just girlhood you know how excited I get going into Sephora and just
05:16:48
Brian Atlaslooking at never understand never get gir I like how long well they've done I think it's a scop what's a scop you've got the
05:17:00
Brian Atlasthe you have the the beauty cosmetic industrial complex which is like a many many times over billion dollar industry Sephora is like
05:17:11
Brian Atlasthe raon of this right huh a side op that's what you're saying well I'm scop sop scop Oh I thought you said let me ask you guys a question imagine this think of all the you know how much time
05:17:23
Maddiedoes it take you guys to put on the typical makeup like on aage 15 minutes minutes okay how much how much do you guys spend on makeup in a year oh God I don't know not too much I don't
05:17:34
Maddiewear that I I don't wear makeup every day but I feel like if I do wear makeup I get more like a grand or two 200 every month if all makeup every month could just poof disappear and no women could
05:17:46
Brian Atlaswear makeup it just totally levels the playing field would you opt for that or continue with the current uh uh what's it called the current uh status quo it depends who I'm looking at I personally think makeup is fun but if I'm looking
05:17:59
Sophieat it like looking at my little sister I'm like you would never need makeup I'll never want that for you like I think you're beautiful the way you are but I personally think it's fun and I personally like getting new makeup products and I personally enjoy doing my
05:18:10
Brian Atlasmakeup and it's just a girly like girly like selfcare little being your face paints I'm makeup I'm a natural body as a little girl I've always been into
05:18:23
Maddiemakeup I mean grew up in generation of watching all the makeup artists on YouTube like do makeup and post about it like we just grew up in that yeah plus if you like differences between the
05:18:33
Michael KnowlesSexes like yeah I want girls to do like girly stuff you know because I assume you guys get together we're not going to get together drink some beers and go watch a game like no like we're makeup you do the pillow fights you do of
05:18:44
Brian Atlascourse yeah come on like the whole sleepover Vibes again I'm a natural body supremacist look a little bit I I'm not going to object to but I do prefer women
05:18:55
Brian Atlaswho wear minimal or no makeup little eyeliner whatever but like when it's uh coming on on on makeup wipes and you've changed the color of the the makeup wipe
05:19:06
Brian AtlasI mean uh and great look I'm again you skin isn't this color no but well no but you've been invite obviously I recognize you've been invited on a video production where there's perhaps a greater likelihood that you're going to perhaps put on a bit more makeup than
05:19:19
Cindy Zangyou otherwise would um but not a fan of makeup that's fine cuz I prer men who wear makeup black ler is makeup though you're saying homosexual
05:19:29
Brian Atlasme they contrad yourself Brian huh what how am I cont you said that you don't mind a girl with black eyeliner no I what I was trying to articulate is like
05:19:40
Brian Atlasif she wears a little ey I know that minimal makeup that is your yeah I'm saying if she's put on like a little mascara or like eyeliner that's not a big thing but that's makeup of course
05:19:52
Brian Atlasbut I'm saying that's why I said minimal or no makeup but when like if you're laying on my black pillow and your face is in print on the pillow after having laid down in
05:20:03
Brian Atlasit or you've smudged a bunched on my on my face if we're being you know kissing whatever and it's uh I'm not a fan of it
05:20:12
Sophiethen you need to get her a makeup spray so it lasts all day yes bu her the charl put it on setting spray that's that's
05:20:21
Brian Atlaswhat you do you need to do okay that's very to learn to embrace women I do Embrace women well embrace them more and be okay here's the difference you're
05:20:31
Brian Atlasembracing you are embracing my dear an illusion it's it's it's it's an illusion well it makes people happy so it's a bamboozle you it's a bamboozle why is it
05:20:44
Michael Knowlesa bamboozle cuz when we take our makeup off we look different hold on my hair doesn't I mean it's it's pretty much stays like this when I wake up but like maybe I get an extra quarter of an inch of qua so is that an illusion hey I
05:20:56
Sophielisten if you want syrup in there I like to you know put it in my dad uses hair regrowth and I bet one day you guys will have to too do you think that's an illusion I'll probably look I maybe only
05:21:05
Brian Atlasgot a little bit a few years left got yeah you know look I'll probably yeah I might even be starting to lose so how would you feel if people called you an illusion it and that's not even
05:21:18
Brian Atlascomparable cuz that's not something you have fun doing I genuinely have fun doing my makeup and doing other people's make who said who said that I would well if I wore T pay then yes then now hold on let me let me ask you girls a
05:21:29
Brian Atlasquestion definitely an illusion ah let's dive into this now if you were on a date with a guy and he took photos with the tupe and the tupe looked really realistic and then you're on the third
05:21:41
Brian Atlasdate you find out that he's actually got a Larry David and he's just bald you guys aren't going to feel like to some degree like you've been like let's not kid ourselves women are
05:21:54
Brian Atlasattracted to men with a full head of hairen are attracted necessarily true I she's not attracted to you of because you were entertaining the guy and I suspect I suspect you maybe would have
05:22:05
Brian Atlasbeen a little less attracted to him had he I mean I don't want to assume had he had no hair yes I would be a little bit less attractive ah so if he had a toue
05:22:15
Brian Atlasand you it turns out he actually is bald you would perhaps feel like to some degree misled and that's not how he actually looks not necessarily I just think that if you have some like
05:22:27
SophieVendetta against girls who wear makeup then like prefer girl doesn't wear makeup but like you don't get to have a certain opinion because you also don't you're just not a girl I don't know I'm
05:22:38
Brian Atlaswait so no uterus no opinion are we going back to the abortion convers so if you that's do you wanty all the time you want kids how us like on TV I'll answer
05:22:51
Maddieyeah it's fair wait I'll answer question I'm just saying if you had a daughter and she started playing with makeup you're I'm not buying her makeup wow that's actually that comes along with like the territory of like being a dad to a
05:23:04
Maddiedaughter is just like eventually let me let meish is that a girl is just G like curiosity of a girl is that one day she's going to be like what is this makeup I want to play with this my mommy puts this on like that's
05:23:16
Brian Atlasjust what's that's just what it is if you don't want to buy her makeup that's fine but your daughter being curious and makeup is something that's she CU she can be curious and I I will daughter she can't wear makeup I will raise my
05:23:28
Brian Atlasdaughter to have such mental fortitude and and force of will and power that I will say daughter not that deep it is that deep I will say daughter you not
05:23:40
Brian Atlasyou need not put the paint on your face my dear it has harmful chemicals and it's it's not you put in your body every day has harmful chemicals fair enough in any case you don't need that
05:23:52
Brian Atlasand I'm not paying for it when you turn 18 if you want to you know whatever you want to do whatever you want if your daughter buys it on her own are you I'm going to be I'm going to be disappointed if she I'm just going to tell you right now your daughter's going
05:24:05
Brian Atlasto come to a point in her life where she's going to want to put on makeup and wear makeup like that's just every girl that is I disagree every girl and this is the Mind virus that women perpetuate
05:24:16
Brian Atlason other women because you think that has to be the social order of things but as a man I have a duty and responsibility to guide my daughter in in a way that I think is more
05:24:27
Maddiecommensurate guide her in other ways besides to not wear me it's not a matter of like she doesn't need it it's not a matter she doesn't for there's like a makeup SE girl triggered I just think
05:24:40
Sophiethat that's like there's so many better like things to guide your daughter on than being like and I'll do those two I also think if you're too harsh on stuff that has very little effect like
05:24:50
Brian Atlasmakeup that may not be the best pair so you're saying that we as a society need to continue to capitulate to this again this is a billion industry that is
05:25:02
Maddieincentivized to keep women feeling insecure about how they naturally look but natural inse yeah I think once again it's just women feeling more confident when they put the makeup on just like if
05:25:14
Michael Knowlesyou want to get a surgery it's just to make you feel more confident also goes back to prehistory if you Google female cosmetic coalitions there's this crazy anthropology thing where they dig up old tribes and the women and the tribes
05:25:25
Michael Knowleswould smear red on them and isn't it it's crazy so you know you're not going to be see Michael's on our side makeup was makeup's been around for a long time
05:25:35
Brian Atlasjust used in different in different ways like look yes and I but I would also argue that the amount of makeup that is used today is far more is this is this
05:25:46
Brian AtlasProf is this crazy for you I don't feel like people wear a lot more makeup now in the past like ever since social media than in the past I remember you know uh people wear a lot more makeup now look I
05:25:59
Brian Atlasdon't know the his the the history of makeup I do I I suspect you know throughout perhaps even for thousands of years women wore makeup I don't know if that was readily available
05:26:09
Brian Atlasto like the peasantry no it was like ochre they'd grind up red ochre and smear it on their face like blush or whatever yeah um I think probably there's been you know various cultures
05:26:20
Brian Atlasand perhaps in in far far in the past in history where women didn't wear makeup and this was just never an never an issue I don't know bro I think they all wore
05:26:32
Maddiemakeup literally we were just saying that he just gave that example because that goes back to Biblical times of women putting blush and lipstick on their face so who knows sure and people have been Waring and murdering each
05:26:43
Brian Atlasother for thousands of years too makeup and murder is too completely St things hot makeup is worse M makeup is worse I'm kiding I'm K that's a hot take for sure I'm kidding but see you guys get
05:26:56
Brian Atlasreally we we were talking about all kinds of crazy but when I when I come after your beloved makeup that's when you guys it always has to go back to like an insecure thing like you made
05:27:06
Naomi Lynnsomething that's so like innocent and fun and like lighthearted and like you don't need it so why do you want it well you don't no girl needs it all of you all of us are pretty without makeup but it's fun and then making it seem like
05:27:19
Brian Atlasit's it's based off whatever whatever lets you sleep at night okay no that's what I'm saying crazy Bri that is crazy no that's not what I said
05:27:29
Brian AtlasI was saying that in response to it's just for fun that come on it just fun it is that's 100% of it you never there's no component of I'm competing with other women there's no component of I want to
05:27:41
Maddiebe more attractive to men I think it's all like I want to feel the best that I can feel why why can't it just be that 100% come I've been on your side this whole time but that's obviously not
05:27:51
Sophiegoing to put makeup on in the morning and say like my goal is prer than other women or get the attention of men or women that's not my intention it's just to feel the that I can feel and be confident and then it's subconscious
05:28:04
Brian Atlasthen on your subconscious also what do you by be confident you mean look good and be attractive no you mean feel it doesn't it doesn't me look good so would you lack confidence if you didn't put it
05:28:14
Sophieon I think it's a necess but you said it's for to feel good and you so you would feel UNG good it's the ACT it's the act of taking the steps to do your makeup and doing what you like and finding what you like and finding your
05:28:27
Sophieroutine and just something that you enjoy something enjoy it's like a hobby why do you enjoy it because it makes you look better makes you feel feel confident feel less confident without
05:28:39
Madison Vuthe makeup so are you insec because you feel prettier because you're pretty to the opposite sex I equalent to Fitness I've been trying to say this I think it's equivalent to fitness men work out excessively sometimes not all and they
05:28:52
Madison Vuchoose to pressure themselves under those Realms of I want to have X amount of bicep muscle I want to have X amount of my abdomen showing all these other things women do the payment of buying makeup and that's just one of our other
05:29:04
Brian Atlasthings it's not well I mean physical fitness is a little bit different and that's within the real women vanity it's just a vanity so the same thing as doing your hair I'll help
05:29:16
Brian AtlasAR wait wait hold on let me I'll help you with the argument um I object to men taking steroids because I think that's harmful to your body in order to attain a certain level of physique now it might help you attain said physique but I
05:29:27
Naomi Lynnthink you ought to do so in a healthy and natural way outweighing the pros and cons of that what are the cons of I mean yeah there's chemicals and makeup but like well I mean like are we dying are
05:29:38
Brian Atlaswe like actually like okay so I mean I don't want to use I I don't want to use like a exceptional uh example but some they found that some uh I I don't know the names of these products uh shop a
05:29:50
Brian Atlasclean brand then for example well they they found asbestos in certain um makeup products and I don't know if you're I'm not in favor of women getting mesothelioma um they they did find asbestos in some
05:30:03
Brian Atlasof the the makeup products and you know the powder and stu um and and women have had well I said I suppose men can use that too but um I it was a documentary
05:30:14
Michael Knowleson Netflix which was terribly woke so don't watch it but is that the first time mesothelioma has come up on the whatever podcast wow actually you know what I feel like it came up didn't it come up like last episode I don't know
05:30:27
Naomi Lynnthere's an app called Yuka where you can scan products and it actually like rates it and tells you all of the active ingredients and if they're good or bad that's if they label it properly it's not like you know well then if you really want to get that granular then
05:30:39
Brian Atlaslike everything I think you said this like everything we do on a daily basis has chemical you know uh Johnson and Johnson baby powder would you say Johnson and Johnson is like one of the major uh is Johnson and joh they're far
05:30:52
Brian Atlasuh yeah drun company pharmaceutical company uh I they they those little baby powder bottles I I had I had those when I was younger everybody did everybody
05:31:02
Brian Atlasdid uh they actually found that there was asbestos right in in the baby powder you get cancer from baby better any obviously they don't list it they don't list
05:31:13
Naomi Lynnasbestos in the ingredients so what might be on the label that might not actually so what are you using on your baby's butt then Brian when you have babies I mean I think they've probably
05:31:25
Sophiechanged the formul weuse powder okay can I ask you something else sure so let's change the subject something else that is harmful is harmful I do want to sure
05:31:34
Sophiewe I same subject though it's harmful it costs money it really has no I go all night really cuz I want to be considerate of your time I'm surprised you stayed this long I would never leave
05:31:47
Michael Knowleshow could I leave you know the only reason I might want to leave is I want to smoke a delicious well I do think we won't we won't keep the show going for too long but okay last thing last thing sure okay how about something like body
05:31:58
Sophiehair removal it costs money um it can be dangerous and it can give you more harm than good do you say yeah I mean if you're shaving and you cut yourself I mean oh and you dive in infection I mean it just has you're not going to die
05:32:11
Brian Atlasyou're not going to die from putting makeup on but it's about the same risk well I mean I think there's a slight difference there when it comes to Gro grooming right um so your question is I
05:32:22
Sophieguess if a girl if a girl said I want to I don't shave my armpits because I feel like it does no good and it's more harmful and sure that's that's actually good it's a good argument that you make um again I would differentiate a little
05:32:35
Brian Atlasbit when it comes to grooming and then I mean do you like Harry or shaved I do prefer shaved I'll give you that but I do think it's a bit different than makeup in so far as like if
05:32:46
Brian Atlasyou I why of course I do um it is a bit different in so far as well one from a purely if if you're being intimate with
05:32:57
Brian Atlasa woman and she has spiky legs I mean that is g to have like there's a bit more of a utilitarian purpose there when it comes to to shaving um but it's not spiky if you
05:33:08
Sophieit's not spiky if you don't shave at all it's just soft just soft hair just natural just like you said like a nice hot gorilla yeah like yeah just like natural like you want no it's a good argument you make again I do think it's
05:33:21
Brian Atlasit is different than makeup though you have your preferences yeah just like all of us so it doesn't makeer for wearing like obviously I want a woman you love natural okay well then we could
05:33:33
Brian Atlasextend this argument to well Brian why do you want a woman who showers because the natural order of things that's the no but it's related to grooming the natural order of things is for your body to collect uh this scense and so then
05:33:46
Sophiewhy don't you shave your legs and armpits do you what so what makes it difference if a woman should shave her legs and armpits and be groomed to that's just clean so are we switching it to like the difference between men and women like
05:33:58
Sophiewhy don't why well you're you're saying you're saying almost like not shaving is what's the word unkempt and now is that just because of societal standards that women should be
05:34:11
Sophiehairless and men shouldn't or why don't you shave your legs then and your armpits and your beard why don't you think well actually I what huh why don't you think that there's an issue with that partaken some degree of grooming I
05:34:23
Sophiewill I understand that I understand that but you're saying if a woman than for letting us know you're saying if a woman has hair on her legs then you just PR PR i' prefer what you just prefer not do
05:34:35
Sophieyou object to my preference of women no I don't object because your opinion is your opinion and your preferences are your preferences but you can't come at certain things for being one way and not coming come at another thing for being the same way but it's it's certainly
05:34:48
Brian Atlasdifferent it's different as in it's different things but it they both propose about the same R AR it is a good argument but I could say that if if a woman like for and you did make the argument of like well what if
05:35:01
Brian Atlasshe just doesn't shave and the hair becomes soft right mm uh but if she does shave but like lets it grow out then she it's spiky so uh yeah not I think that's
05:35:13
Sophiea that would be my argument it would be uncomfortable in an intimate setting okay so how is that different than you then why don't you
05:35:22
Brian Atlasshave your legs and do you have a bush I uh I groom I groom but I don't shave my legs you have a little landing
05:35:31
Brian Atlasstrip or what the uh called manscaping I manscaped manscaped um well I think I mean it does come down to
05:35:41
Brian Atlasgender roles to some degree uh gender expectations typically women don't have a preference for men who shave their legs they don't really I think most
05:35:51
Brian Atlaswomen don't care about leg hair really and I think it is kind of the the uh order of things that a lot of men prefer women who shave their legs yeah well a
05:36:03
Brian Atlaslot of women wear makeup and prefer to wear makeup okay so I'm just saying it's about I suppose my to some degree my objection to it is sometimes the the degree to which it can
05:36:15
Brian Atlasabsolutely transform a woman's appearance now granted I know sometimes it's fairly minimal and it doesn't really they still look mostly the same actually Nick we have a file of some crazy Transformations that we can pull
05:36:27
Brian Atlasup I think it's under the makeup tab Nick if you can pull up all those it's in the browser do you know what I'm talking about yeah uh just pull all those up there's some
05:36:38
Brian Atlasridiculous ridiculous makeup transformations uh whereas like leg hair a woman's legs in terms of physical appearance do I look that different I mean I'd have I need a
05:36:50
Maddiebefore and after but you just got one you had my full face on before I haven't committed your face to but you ever seen the ones where it's like here and looked at me for the past 5 hours you can't tell me you don't remember what I look like with my makeup on no I don't remember what you look like with your
05:37:03
Brian Atlasmakeup on well you just told me I look different without it so how do you not remember well you I can tell that there's a difference but I don't I don't I haven't burned the image of what your face looks like with makeup you're not
05:37:14
Brian Atlassing like if you were a s you'd have burned that if I was a s i was Nick you got what you got Nick what you got by the way can we get some W's in the chat Michael NOS is a
05:37:25
Brian Atlastrooper we' this he's been streaming with us all day I got thank you that's how you do it it's not like it's not like this I do it like
05:37:36
Brian Atlasthat yeah what side I don't know what y oh wow Michael just flashed some gang signs right there we're in Santa Barbara
05:37:44
Nicolletwere in okay you got it ni you got the only fans send the link disavow okay that's like special effects makeup go ahead is
05:37:56
Brian Atlasit oh is it that's a pretty big that's totally fake next wait wait wait wait let it replay
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Brian Atlasagain oh come on filter make you look old that's the granny filter okay then that's serly the granny that's fake new there's more what
05:38:17
Maddieyou got fake news okay we got here well that's rude before that's rude she I think she is pretty decent transformation no tell
05:38:30
Cindy Zangme you saw that too you saw the dips it's not yeah no I don't believe I don't believe not one I believe that have a transition when without
05:38:40
Brian AtlasI oh this one's wild okay mathematics these are bad
05:38:50
Brian AtlasTransformations just you got you guys got to see that well no wonder you think this the videos you're watching it looks like yeah I know but it's trying to articulate the point here the degree to which makeup can no what
05:39:04
Brian Atlasthe okay I get what you're saying that's also not real wait there's more more Nick there's more what do you mean there's no no this is it this Is It
05:39:13
Brian AtlasMichael said this is it this is it what you got for us Nick the rest oh this one's
05:39:25
Brian Atlaswild but again to be I I don't want to be intellectually dishonest I think she's intentionally made herself look unappealing they so they all did but
05:39:35
Brian Atlaslike fil but you can kind of tell what she looks like hold up whoa hello okay that's pretty different there I don't know why that
05:39:46
Brian Atlasone that one might be real next next maybe is there a photo one's a photo but it's like it's not makeup oh I think I
05:39:55
Brian Atlasknow is it the pants yeah okay we'll see it yeah why not it's kind of related
05:40:02
Michael Knowlesall right oh you got to move us oh face tune I use face tune no it's just pants yoga pants it's just it's just the should I start wearing yoga pants you probably amazing it's literally just the
05:40:14
Maddiepositioning of your body anyone can take a like that that that's fraud we would all know that fraud all of us can look like that right now all of us could literally stand certain angle push our
05:40:24
Maddiestomach out and look exactly like that okay come on though like if as a guy she's pushing her stomach out normal that's literally just to go to show that that's a huge transformation that's not
05:40:34
Maddiea I could there's probably that's I love how you just when I love how you said you would prefer a woman with a little belly fat it's just literally and then you see a little belly fat and then you want to say no that's not what I said no
05:40:47
Brian Atlastalking about I'm fine I'm not you said yourself you have a little beer belly now so who are you to judge wait hold on I think you guys are misunderstanding what I'm trying to articulate by pulling
05:40:56
Brian Atlasthat photo up the transformation it's the transformation my argum that is that we could all stand there I'm not I'm not saying that the woman on the right is is ugly I'm not making a
05:41:09
Brian Atlascriticism of her appearance what I am saying is the transformation from A to B is rather like that's pretty substantial so if I sat here pushed out my stomach like that and then push my stomach back
05:41:20
Brian Atlasin like it's like literally you could all have an ugly angle all of us take pictures for living we all know what it's like she's getting a lot of help from what's that uh the the the
05:41:31
Naomi Lynnthe the uh brand of she's getting a lot of help from her friends at Lululemon okay I love how you sh that in that picture I don't know if it's edited but she also has abs so it's like she not
05:41:43
Cindy Zangnecessary guys do that too I see a lot of guys like you know open their belly and when I start like is there another photo Nick or is that it no like I thought there was a photo like seen like the guys where they're like
05:41:55
Brian Atlasstretching their stomach and then like sucking them into ass wrong when men do it too it's wrong when men do it man y'all are really worked up about this makeup did I I really struck a
05:42:06
Maddienerve Nock not all they seem like you seem a little struck no I'm not a nerve has been struck no no not at all I'm just you struck struck I'm just disappointed no I'm just trying to get you to see
05:42:17
Michael Knowleswhat it's like from a girl from a girl perspective yeah that's all it ising mostly there was a little bit you guys went crazy about the I don't do it to look pretty for boys or whatever I'm just try but mostly I agree with you mostly I love how keep going back to and
05:42:30
Brian Atlaswe're always going to stand on that it's not for men Co yeah cool we can agree to disagree okay will you look how about this if I can concede that it's not 100%
05:42:41
Brian Atlasfor men can you concede that it's somewhat there's some percentage of the reason why wom sure if someone has if someone has the intention to put makeup on because they're going on a date or
05:42:51
Sophiesomething maybe then it is for a man but the idea of makeup the practice of doing your makeup in the morning does not have an underlying reason of for men so female cosmetic coalitions were for
05:43:03
Michael Knowleswomen to gang up on men so back in the old days what I'm just you know the old like you're saying woman put on makeup to G on men yes because it was a way it was a way oddly to like hide menstruation there's like you can go
05:43:16
Michael Knowlesdown a real rabbit trail of ancient makeup but the reason that I agree with you guys against Brian is also why I don't believe that it's not for men thing so what about if a girl group of
05:43:27
Naomi Lynngirls gets together and they just do their makeup like what together yeah no and there there's no men they're not taking pictures what if they're just a slumber party we're not going out just going to go to bed you
05:43:40
Maddieknow how many times me and my girls have literally sat on the floor of my bathroom and I'm just like can you give me a makeover like can you just do my makeup and like do it how you want and I just want to see how it looks that's so normal for girls right