Michael Knowles DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Are OF/E-Girls Traditional?! | Dating Talk #132
Date: 2024-02-02
Duration: 6h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Sophie(guest)
SPEAKER_03Nicollet(guest)
SPEAKER_06Michael Knowles(guest)
SPEAKER_07Madison Vu(guest)
SPEAKER_09Maddie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Cindy Zang(guest)
SPEAKER_11Mia Huffman(guest)
SPEAKER_12Naomi Lynn(guest)
Key Moments
00:06:38
IntroMichael Knowles introduction - 'I am a cigar salesman and I do not yet do only fans'
“I'm Michael nolles I am a cigar salesman and I do not yet do only fans and I don't intend to”
00:08:08
Key MomentSophie reveals her ex-fiance was born female and transitioned to male mid-engagement
“when we started dating he said I'm a woman I want to be treated like a woman and then he transitioned”
01:32:49
QuoteNaomi Lynn reveals she left a six-figure corporate director-of-sales job for OnlyFans
“I was a director of sales... six figures regardless... I quit it to do only fans”
01:35:35
QuoteMaddie discloses she's made $200-300K from sugar daddies and 100-200 paid dates
“probably a few hundred thousand... should we say 300,000 safe number”
01:43:46
QuoteCindy reveals a fan pre-paid $10K to spit on him; meetup not yet happened
“one of my fans said they would pay like $10,000 for me to spit on them... yeah I said yeah I'm down”
02:07:06
QuoteMichael Knowles on the road to redemption for OF girls: stop, then go to church
“the very first thing I would recommend doing is stop... go to church as much as you want to”
02:20:44
ControversyCindy accuses Brian of subscribing to her OnlyFans after seeing 'Brian Atlas' in her subscriber list
“I saw in my statements as this your your first and last name”
03:49:31
QuoteRatings round - Brian self-rates as a 5 due to gained weight/dad bod
“I used to rate myself a six however I've gained a bit of weight... I'm now a five cuz I got a bit of a dad bod”
11:12:00
Key MomentMadison Vu discloses frat-rat history at Cal Poly Pomona; walked in on by frat members
“I used to go to Cal Poly Pomona I was a little frat rat... walked in on by the whole frat no just like large groups”
Topics Discussed
00:05:39
Guest introductions and relationship statuses
Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Then relationship status round. Sophie's broken engagement to a trans man is a major discussion point.
01:25:00
OnlyFans and sex work economy
Discussion of sugar daddies, pay pigs, 'What's Your Price' app, escort-adjacent paid dates. Maddie describes 100-200 paid dates and a $100K sugar daddy. Cindy discusses a fan paying $10K to spit on him.
02:10:00
Michael Knowles debates OF girls on relationships and marriage
Michael Knowles challenges the panel on how OnlyFans/sex work affects long-term relationship prospects. Discussion of whether women can 'have it all' and still find a quality partner later.
03:06:40
Feminism, equal pay, women's sports
Maddie says she supports feminism but 'not over the top'. Discussion of WNBA pay equity, women's soccer, and whether equal pay demands are consistent.
03:18:20
Aliens, religion, and the supernatural
Michael argues aliens are 'just demons for libs' and there's no evidence for extraterrestrial life. Cindy and Naomi say they'd date an alien if rich/attractive enough.
03:49:31
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)
Everyone rates their looks 1-10. Most women say 10. Brian rates himself 5 (gained weight, dad bod). Michael rates himself 8.
03:56:40
Dating preferences and exclusivity
Brian explains he wants women who are exclusively interested in him from first date; no other men in the picture. Panel pushes back on this as unrealistic.
04:08:20
Plastic surgery debate
Debate over labiaplasty, breast implants, BBLs. Naomi (SPEAKER_12) reveals she had a labiaplasty during a year of celibacy. Brian argues plastic surgery is a proxy for mental illness or excessive vanity.
04:30:00
Religion, Christianity, and porn
Michael Knowles debates Cindy on wearing a cross while doing porn. Sophie discusses her Biblical scholarship and her non-denominational Christian background. Broader discussion of Catholicism, Bible translation, abortion.
05:25:00
Makeup and physical deception
Brian argues makeup is deceptive; panel defends makeup as self-expression. Comparison to men wearing shoe lifts or toupees. Makeup transformation videos shown.
Transcript
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03:48:55
Brian Atlaseveryone's reality so right some people were killed but for her she got the reality of she lived that's great r p Good Times well we have we have I'm
03:49:07
Brian Atlastrying to find the chat here we had something from Stiffler and I'm trying to find it but it's uh let me see if I can find it in the thing hold on here
03:49:18
Brian Atlasjust a second folks sorry the chat rate has been did did we not oh here it is I found it we have Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to
03:49:31
Brian Atlas10 we're going to start with Cindy we're going to go around the table Cindy go ahead I am 10 yeah I'm not going to what your looks rate your own looks on a scale of one to
03:49:47
Maddie10 I don't know I don't know I don't say you know I answered for you yeah we confident out here so we're all going to say we all going to say
03:49:57
Madison Vutens yep well just just what 10 10 10 I'm going be realistic and just say eight I always say that number
03:50:09
Michael KnowlesEight's a respectable number eight is well I would have been tempted to say nine or 10 but then you told me I'm a total dog face before so I don't know like now I feel like it's more like Michael say 10 seven do you
03:50:22
Maddiethink I should say 10 you I'll say we all we all need have the to just say we're T we're all t confidence is it is that what it is it's confidence yeah I wouldn't like say I'm the most beautiful girl in the world like no I wouldn't say
03:50:35
Naomi Lynnthat at all but positive affirmations I do think that confidence matters but they ask us to rate ourselves so like our like objectively though objec
03:50:46
Brian Atlasobjectively we're you know you you say confidence it occurs to me that's maybe not the right word hubris seems like a more Des I think confidence hubis sounds a bit more descriptive but um don't you
03:50:58
Brian Atlasthink it's a little bit delusional I love that word call yourself a 10 no cuz God gave you this body I'm not going to rate you guys what did you what did youate excuse me I did
03:51:09
Brian Atlasnot rate myself so I used to rate myself a six however I've gained a bit of weight because I I've stress I stress eat so I'm now a five cuz I got a bit of a dad bod so I'm a five five that's kind
03:51:21
Brian Atlasof that's like basically telling that you're not grateful you say a five okay people don't like dadbods yeah Dad bods are in Leo dad BS oh I love
03:51:31
Michael Knowleshim you say that but uh you know us have six got go quick cuz he has a cap at 25 I know it our time is ticking
03:51:42
Sophiebut uh yeah don't again don't you guys think it's a bit delusional to uh yes oh you are self-aware of yeah you got to be confident though like you got to not relate yourself to societal beauty
03:51:55
Sophiestandards and just know that are you able to scoot into the table a little bit I'm so sorry it's okay it's all right yeah you just have to not relate yourself to societal beauty standards and just know that what's the standard
03:52:05
Naomi Lynnthen I don't know big tits big ass I I like I don't you subjective like end of the day like you could think all of us are hideous like that's your are dope don't get me wrong like I'm aups are
03:52:18
Maddiefine I mean I don't know why you got to like I just big titties into this conversation I think it's just the whole like um like Kardashian BBL vibe that everyone in this like Instagram World
03:52:30
Maddiegoes for and I know a lot of men like they're like no I actually hate that but a lot of men I mean that's the whole internet that's social media if you ask me to rate you I would I would say a 10 because
03:52:42
Sophiewell I would I don't know I just don't feel like it's my place I just feel like it's not my place to rate other people and if I'm going to have to rate myself I'm going to give myself the best grade I can
03:52:53
Brian Atlasso you like aups and big laas it's fire what I heard to well I actually I forgot if it was you who asked me what I like in a woman maybe we can get there
03:53:04
Brian Atlasbut to me like when it you mentioned the plastic surgery thing I A Natural Body supremacist okay I prefer women without all these surgical interventions I've
03:53:16
Cindy Zangnever seen people say my tits are fake do you think they real or fake oh my God okay respectfully like she's
03:53:27
Brian Atlasshe's can you answer her so they want to know I'm not trying to just stare at your boobs right now I'm just trying to have a conversation but Loose Energy donated
03:53:37
TTS/Donations$200 Mike under no circumstances a simple all also your nasty gas up used up mid heal 300 and will be
03:53:47
TTS/Donationsalone with cats or end up with a ABD get the Rocks # she belongs get the Rocks Abul yeah get the Rocks get the Rocks all right I'm at
03:54:01
Brian Atlasleast grateful that I'm under no circumstances a s that's nice Michael is I think simps are cool I love a I like female SS I think Fe women should
03:54:12
Naomi Lynnstart sing I a man hard okay you I thought only a man could be a s definitely S I have definitely s what
03:54:24
Naomi Lynnfor whom how does that even coincide I'm saying when I have a man the first dat has nothing to do with when I a you got s from the GetGo Naomi yeah did you know what that is backward by the way okay
03:54:36
Naomi Lynnsorry yeah that's my literally one of my Tik Tok candles i r backwards cuz Naomi um anyways so if I were to ask you on a date right just like Ro play um
03:54:48
Naomi Lynnnatural if I were to ask you on a date you would want me to like be at your on my knees like paying for funny you say that actually I mean I what yes you want
03:55:00
Maddiethe girl be like I want to pay for everything has to simp Michael m i that doesn't make sense to me like simp in what way like or wait so you want the girl to be
03:55:13
Maddiedominant and ask no not dominant she still has to be feminine and submissive what do you mean by simp like that she shows that she cares about you and she like with you is that what you
03:55:22
Naomi Lynnmean like she shows her affection she what the he said he was correlating like having a man and being submissive and
03:55:31
Maddielike a s to like the first date like that I could be weird defition of so what's your definition of a s well I mean there's various definitions I
03:55:43
Brian Atlascould give you the Websters in your head what is somebody who like is a little who does a little too much who's a little too well the from the male the the male
03:55:55
Brian Atlass this is what a male s is a guy who does way too much for a woman who does way too little for him yeah yeah right so like he's he's spending all this money taking her out on dates and she's
03:56:07
Brian Atlasa fence sitter right when it comes to me and I I I don't know if all men share my thoughts on this but I prefer women who like I'm not big on gameplaying I want a girl who is fairly upfront with her
03:56:19
Brian Atlasinterest in me it doesn't have to be like in a vulgar over overt sort of way but I do like a woman's I like a woman woman's undivided romantic and sexual
03:56:31
Naomi Lynnattention immediately yeah you're asking too much that's fire that's love bombing that's not love bombing you want to say neily the woman the woman is is love bombing I don't see that as love bombing
03:56:44
Naomi Lynnif I was really interested in someone I would absolutely act that way that's beautiful yeah I'm a Pisces I'm a lover girl know I saw your birth oh my say like I know I saw your
03:56:56
Cindy Zangjacket or what you know oh thank God there's no water good oh my God that would have been terrible for me the definition of simp is just crushing you just like oh like you know I have a crush on you like oh
03:57:09
Cindy ZangI don't think don't you have to be really enthusiastic if you simp just like you're just like you're just like a lowy to you can be a lowkey simp I thought that was a contrad terms you know it's I don't think you can be a
03:57:21
Maddielowkey simp yeah you got to be a high I think you can be I think you can be like lowkey with how you feel about a girl but I think when you're a s for a girl like you're like it's you're
03:57:31
Maddieshelling it like there you're like I love you're really into really into the person right and uh from I I think we've all had the
03:57:41
Brian Atlasexperience of we've dated people who display a very high level of romantic interest in us and some women don't like that even if you otherwise would find
03:57:51
Brian Atlasthe guy attractive and you've also probably had the experience of guys who seem a bit aloof and does he like me does he not like me it's interesting to me it seems like some women will be like
03:58:02
Brian AtlasI want to win him over and maybe some guys also have that too where there's like the chase me personally and I think it may very well be the case for a lot of men uh I actually much prefer a woman
03:58:15
Cindy Zangwho displays quite a high level of interest in me because I don't I'm not is it because you're insecure no it's not how why how do you come to that conclusion I it's just CU because I what
03:58:25
Cindy Zangyou rated yourself you rated yourself a five and then you basically want a girl to love on personality is like a 12 for you and pay pay for everything so
03:58:35
Brian Atlasbasically it's just giving what's it giving just not what's it giving Cindy what's it giving you said it's not giv it's not giving it's not giving at all
03:58:47
Brian AtlasI'm not like I'm not interested also if a girl's So Into You one one thing that's important to me a lot of people are dating multiple people at the same time I'm not I'm not about that if
03:58:59
Brian Atlasif I come into your life if you're a girl I come into your life and we're I'm interested in you if we go on the first date preferably I mean on that first date i' strongly prefer there's no other guys in the picture if you want a second
03:59:13
Brian Atlasdate with me if there's other guys it has to be a rap and if you were sexually involved with them while you went on the first date with me that's a rap from my end but if you were dating it's a rap what's
03:59:24
Brian Atlasa rap oh like it's over you mean like that's a rap that's like old lingo I thought that was zomer yeah yeah it's Boomer lingo yeah so but uh certainly if she's sexually involved with another guy even on the first date I mean that's I
03:59:37
Brian Atlasdon't even want to go on a date with you but some people aren't always forthcoming if you want to go on a second date with me all the other dudes it's over you can't be entertaining other dudes if you want to you
03:59:48
Maddieentertaining other women no so but I date very like intentionally like that so when you're dating you you might think that's crazy but I don't at all so when you're dating you're dating one woman at a time and then when you're
04:00:01
Brian Atlasdone with her if I'm going to pursue if I'm going to pursue her absolutely of one dat if you go on one date with somebody and you're not that interested and you don't really want to yeah but but if I'm going to pursue it then yes
04:00:13
MaddieI'm going to but that just contradicted what you said you the woman to show up to a date at your first date with you and not involved in any other relationship she hasn't gone out with you where did you guys meet it's not that did you like know each other or was this like a swipe thing I mean it could be through social media it could be on
04:00:27
Michael Knowlesthe dating app it could you could meet in person because if it's a swipe thing she might still be dating some other guy casually and that's more sort of understandable I think but if she knows you you know you guys both play you're in the peanuckle club together and you say like hey Brian I want to go get an
04:00:40
Maddieice cream with you or something and it' be weird if she were if you your intentions clear like this I want to be with you and just you I don't see a problem with that but if you're just expecting a woman to stop talking to everybody else just because you don't
04:00:52
Brian Atlaswant her to and you're not going to commit to her I don't think that's fair well yeah I'm not I'm not particularly interested in having like a large roster of women that like that doesn't interest me I'm a very busy person I don't have time for that I'm not interested in well
04:01:04
Brian Atlaslet's just be in a situationship for 3 months and we're both multiple other people at the same time and maybe after this extended period of time maybe we'll find ourselves in a relationship that has no interest uh that that doesn't interest me now I would agree
04:01:17
Brian Atlaswith you that it's probably the dating meta that most people are dating multiple people at the same time perhaps they're even sleeping with them at the same time I would not want to date a woman who does that and it it's just so for you to even take a woman out you
04:01:30
Brian Atlasalready know that you're going to want to date her is that what you're saying well I mean I think you have to get a feel for them obviously on the date and that first date doesn't guar guarantee that I get a second date or that she gets a second date um but you know so
04:01:43
Brian Atlasthat's why I think you can't go into it expecting woman to not be talking to other men well it's not that hard to be dating one person at the same time what you have happening is with it with on the first date after several dates I understand but going into a first date
04:01:55
Maddieyou can't I'll tell you this I'll tell you this yeah you can't say I don't want to go into it if she's been talking or any other men at all we haven't even women who are properly single I like women who are properly single you're not of the opinion that if if
04:02:08
Brian Atlasthere's a goalie doesn't mean you can't what's interesting to me that you find that like somewhat strange but almost every single girl here said that they're not dating anybody so why is that like why do you think that that's uh given
04:02:21
Brian Atlasthat all the women almost all the women here at this table are not currently dating any guy why is it somehow strange for me to want a girl who's not currently dating or sleeping with
04:02:32
Naomi Lynnanother guy cuz majority of women majority of women do date multiple people people at the same time until until you have that conversation of like okay you're going to move and make this
04:02:43
TTS/Donationsserious sex sarcastic sated $200 all of you have raging daddy issues and need to stop I'll just say this look if you're if you're sexually involved
04:02:54
Brian Atlaswith another man I want nothing to do with you I give you going going into it before you ever went out on the first date yes even even if we're going on the first date if you known before you go out with them I would ask a girl are you properly single are you seeing other
04:03:06
Brian Atlasguys now hopefully they don't lie to me but absolutely so yes it is something I would ask them before even bothering to meet with them I might give them a little more leeway if they're like going on first dates with other guys even then
04:03:18
Madison Vuthat's not an ideal situation I get where you're coming from like I I I don't like to date I don't like to have multiple like situationships myself so if I start talking to someone then I'm
04:03:29
Madison Vuonly talking to that one person and I'm completely SLE now where it's like I don't talk to anybody so I understand why it's like I want a prop I get get but not going into the first
04:03:41
Brian Atlasday I think that's not like realistic see to me if if you disclosed to me on the first date by the way I'm currently having sex with another man I'm not going to be mean but I'm going be I'm I
04:03:54
Brian Atlasmight be a little flustered that you've wasted my time but I'm probably going to be like oh cool because I guess you ask goodbye I'm leaving I don't want to how soon before right before y'all's dinner date like like why would you go on the
04:04:07
Naomi Lynndate with him if you're dating this other guy in a pretty serious way I mean I get that yeah but what if it's not serious it sounds like by what they're doing it's kind of serious well you look at sex as very serious and a committed you call it making love or it could just
04:04:20
Michael Knowlesbe sex I don't know if in that case they're exactly making love correct prob point just like having sex yeah but like they shouldn't be doing that how many girls have told you that Brian on a first date oh by the way I'm like some other
04:04:32
Brian Atlasguy well it could look it could certainly be the case that people might not be forthcoming about that sort of thing although I like to think that generally I mean look again maybe I've been played but uh I like to think that
04:04:45
Nicolletmost of the women I've dated actually don't move that way yeah cuz like if you're she's laughing because I mean because I would never tell a guy if I
04:04:56
Maddiewas another guy in a first date I was going to say actually if they asked me I would be honest I'm not but I'm not going to like the way I'm going to ask be honest too but I'm not going to sit there and be like yeah I'm going to go someone else asking like a
04:05:09
Brian Atlasvery like I'm not going to be like you other dudes I'm going to be like hey I'm going to like first it's not going to be like an immediate you I'm last so like are you dating other people right now like when's the last
04:05:21
Michael Knowlestime you've been on a date when was your last relationship and that will allow me to sort of get the sense of but don't you I don't want to think about if I'm going on a date with a girl I don't know it's been 100 years since I've been on dates but I I sit down you don't take your wife on date like I'll take my wife
04:05:34
Michael Knowlesbut I'm not like I'm not asking these questions you know at these dates on dates which is weird you no I like we
04:05:42
Michael Knowlesgo out we do things it to be talk I'm not married stay activities to do it's like some you know yeah we'll let
04:05:54
Michael Knowlesgo we don't I don't lock her in a cage most of the time yeah yeah so but like back in the old days if I would go on a date I don't want to sit down and be like so tell me about every other dude that you've ever dated or might be dating now I want to keep that
04:06:07
Michael Knowlescompletely out of my want to think that they ever went on Anye ever just me they saw me they sprung into the world out of The Ether and saw me and fell immediately in love that's what I want to see that's delusional right there well no I'm not I'm not convincing
04:06:20
Michael Knowlesmyself that it's true but I just don't I don't need to talk about like so tell me about your relationship I weirded out I would be Weir I want the red pill I don't cuz you
04:06:30
Brian Atlasknow there's I get I guess ignorance is bliss right but I want I want to know that way I can make an formed decision to say it was nice to meet you goodbye I don't want to date you this like a job
04:06:43
Michael Knowlesinterview like so what are your past I called some of your recommendations um Des says you're lovely you know what I agree with that women should come with with references from their past partners
04:06:56
Cindy Zangthere should be a Yelp there should be a Yelp for like dating well there is one for the male version for human being stop it not yell for you by you doing that Brian you be cutting off
04:07:08
Brian Atlasgood opportunity I could be cut I could be cutting off a really good opportunity with a woman when I first met her after the first date she goes and the guy who she's sleeping with that's AB I
04:07:19
Maddiethought you meant before not afterwards well that's it could have been the night before and it's okay yeah it depends on how soon before but if it was like two months before was the last guy she and then she went out with you is it like a big deal that she someone two months ago the the longer
04:07:32
Maddieback in the past the more the more preferable what about you but when she you say the same thing for you Brian's not oh which is good which is a good thing oh he got defensive but
04:07:43
Nicolletthen he was like he said no but what if she really liked you and then she was willing to like not anyone else again but she wouldn't get that chance because you're like No And also if you're not asking straight up questions
04:07:56
Naomi Lynnthat have just been asked yeah if you're not asking straight up then how can you say like oh you wasted my time I guess it's just the communication on it yeah yeah you should give her a written test when you sit her job what if it's her job
04:08:08
Cindy Zangher what if it's her job yeah like she had sex oner she had she had to go on black and like you know what I mean like the day she had to go on black yeah like
04:08:18
Michael Knowlesthe casting was the day before and on black that means casting that's disgusting you're like a black guy black it's like on oh my God PornHub like you
04:08:29
Cindy Zangknow what I mean black is it is fed by like eight guys like I'm just saying like you know what I mean like got it got it
04:08:39
Cindy Zangand I ask are you Cindy are you okay Cindy I'm good I'm just saying yeah if if what
04:08:50
Cindy Zangwhat sorry I'm not used to you saying like
04:08:58
Brian AtlasUI cool we already ascertained at the beginning that Brian is a white supremacist W didn't I remember I'm a natural
04:09:10
Maddieno bbls no lip fillers no laia plasty no I guarantee like if you saw you'd change your mind lipo saw what if if woman if the woman that you loved like looked at
04:09:23
Maddieyou one day and just said I'm not confident and I have not been confident in how my vagina looks my whole entire life and I want to get a labia blasty it wasn't it wasn't so much like those
04:09:32
Brian Atlasthat's one of the circumstances I think vote for Biden and try to get that like seriously no as a man I'll be right back wait let me answer that let me answer that really quick let me answer
04:09:43
Brian Atlasthat really quick so if I was in a relationship with a girl and she wanted to get that procedure or frankly any uh plastic surgery that was for purely
04:09:54
Brian Atlascosmetic reasons I think we as men you know we are protectors and we have a duty not and that's not just even a physical thing we have a duty to protect
04:10:04
Brian Atlasour girlfriends or our wives uh on the mental level and so I would I I believe in building up my partner so I
04:10:15
Brian Atlaswould do everything in my power to advise her not to get plastic surgery because I'm against plastic surgery and I would say you're beautiful as you are you don't need to do that your AC cups are great but what if she knows that
04:10:28
Maddiesmall booty if she knows that what if she's perfectly fine how she is but literally the only thing that she wants to make her feel more conf thing yes okay you want to specifically talk about the Leia talk about the lebia thing too
04:10:38
Brian Atlascuz I mean like I like I like large lebia I'll say I I like how it is so it's a little uncomfy sometimes though when it's like sitting in your panties so like that was really like well okay I have a whole story behind mine I mean I went celibate all
04:10:52
Naomi Lynnof 2022 after my last breakup and then I got mine done for me and then I started only fans like for funs I I didn't plan to get it done before starting only fans
04:11:05
Naomi Lynnbecause I was going to start only fans like I got it done and then I was I just decided just start only fans but it worked out in my favorite but I'm just saying like it wasn't because I was like oh my God I
04:11:16
Brian Atlashate the way it looks like that's not the case either it's just like like I've heard from some women that there's uh there can be I suppose discomfort but I think the vast majority of that
04:11:26
Brian Atlasprocedure it's for purely cosmetic reasons sure MH but again we're talking so what's the question so my wife comes to me and she wants to get a laop plasty I'd be like I I like it how it is I
04:11:38
Maddieprefer it how it is I would probably like it less than you know if you were to get it she knows your opinions on it she knows how you feel on it and she still wants to do it you're telling me you'd leave her just because she wanted well I didn't no I didn't say I would leave her you said you would divorce her
04:11:50
Brian Atlasoh God I was being factious um but uh I have a question but I would try my best to counsel her i' tell i' think tell her she's beautiful the way she is I prefer her the way she
04:12:03
Brian Atlasis and then I would say and then I would say well here's how much it costs here's some of the potential risk anytime you go under anesthesia there's potential risks there uh you know you could lose potentially some uh sensitivity you could you know there's
04:12:17
Brian Atlasall kinds of reasons are we still talking about Leia plasy it's actually great it's more good talk good talk wait we were doing the rating 1 to 10 yeah no I had one more question though on that
04:12:27
Naomi Lynntopic on that topic still if a girl had it done before she met you and she never told you then what then if you found out later on would it bother you I'd be like I wish she hadn't but I mean it's it's
04:12:39
Brian Atlasnot like enies are great too don't get me wrong but if a tree falls in if a labia Falls in a for and no one is around to yeah look I just I one I don't think that we should be shaming people
04:12:51
Maddiefor uh their genitalia for example I don't think men should be shamed if they have a small what no one's shaming anyone I made a personal decision literally something some girls want to do to feel more confident and I was
04:13:03
Maddieasking on your end if if a woman you had already loved came to you and said like y'all have been in a relationship you love this woman you want to be with her she said I want to get this done I'm asking if you would stand by that and respect that that's what I'm asking like
04:13:14
Brian Atlasafter I've made a very goodfaith effort to say you don't need to I like you and she's just like committed to it because it's it's not about you it's not about other men it's it's about how you feel
04:13:26
Brian Atlason its own I wouldn't I don't think it' be like I would break up with her if she like despite it it would it could potentially introduce a bit of conflict in the relationship in or no just be
04:13:37
Brian Atlaslike no you're not doing that you know she be like I want she's not listening to me and as the patriarch of the family uh there's that now there I mean there's other considerations like am I is this a scenario where I'm like the
04:13:50
Maddieprovider and she wants me to pay for it because then there's other this is this is this is your girlfriend and you guys are getting married and you know you love her this is the one you want to be with you stood by her and she just says
04:14:01
Brian Atlasis let me ask you question got to get the dress got to get the is that the is and this is just going to be pathetical so who knows how this would play out would that be the extent of the plastic
04:14:12
Maddiesurgery that she wants like me the only one yeah because because my yes if that's the only one she wants I'm asking if that's the only one she wants and that's the only thing that makes her
04:14:22
Brian Atlasfeel not confident as not as confident as she could be would you stand by that and just respect that if you love her you would I would if yes I would I Pro I would probably stay with her but it I
04:14:35
Brian Atlasit's it I don't think it's like that's a breakup scenario but that's a eyebrow rise scenario because I mean my view on plastic surgery is I do think it can be
04:14:45
Brian Atlasproxy for mental illness and so I'm not particularly inclined to also excessive vanity how well I mean if you are so dissatisfied with your body and it's for
04:14:58
Brian Atlasexample uh breast implants with the exception of a woman who's had breast cancer and had to have a breast removed for example there's no medically indicated reason to have plastic put into your chest there's no
04:15:10
Maddiemedical reason to do that it's purely cosmetic you are so what's so what's so wrong with someone wanting to feel more confident what if someone just wanted bigger boobs
04:15:21
Brian Atlasit's well you are so dissatisfied with your current present appearance that you're going to spend thousands of dollars you would be right you're SP you're spending thousands of dollars you're going under anesthesia which
04:15:33
Brian Atlasrequires a certain risk me personally I just don't find it aesthetically I don't think it uh the look is actually not terrible but I mean touch no not a
04:15:44
Brian Atlasfan of it um and uh I'm trying to think what else it's just I I don't typically like women who are have excessive vanity I tend to prefer women who are a bit
04:15:55
Cindy Zangmore modest um so I mean it is there what like all the plastic surgery the nose the breast the
04:16:06
Mia Huffmanpenis um increase so yeah typically is that a surgery yeah like I thought that was just in like cartoons or your height you can increase your height Howe
04:16:15
Mia Huffmanyouright your knees um like something in your calves like I don't know but I did not know that dang but it's very small percentages it's just like a few inches because it doesn't seem worth it yeah
04:16:27
Brian Atlasit's it's a very painful surgery recovery look I think we as men have a duty May is right we as men have a duty like I said to protect women not just
04:16:36
Brian Atlasfrom physical threats but also threats of the mind and in my view Society has to to some degree when it comes to
04:16:46
Brian Atlasunattainable beauty standards um has compelled women to start undertaking these quite frankly expensive and
04:16:56
Brian Atlasunnecessary and dangerous uh plastic cosmetic surgeries which I view are not necessary um and I I think that's that
04:17:06
Michael Knowlesis an attack on women's mind yeah also like your beauty is for your spouse or I guess your like long-term you know fiance whatever boyfriend but it's like for it's not for you it's not and it's
04:17:17
Michael Knowlesnot for the public I disagree with that entirely I was completely single when I got my surgery done which is why I think right people people misunderstand that fact and then they start to do things because of their own vain Neurosis or
04:17:30
Naomi Lynnbecause they want to impress the public or whatever impress what public I was working in Corporate America and single and I wasn't dating or right so I'm saying it wasn't it wasn't for you know you're what if it's literally just
04:17:41
Madison Vusomething that you want like if it literally just wait plastic surgery but that's I get what you're kind of saying cuz what he's saying is like woman or anybody getting plastic surgery unfortunately it leads to more and more
04:17:53
Madison Vuincrease of those surgeries annually in the population getting them and that leads to this dissatisfaction with many other people because they see can someone that Alex Earl for instance she
04:18:05
Madison Vuhas breast implants so many girls have grown into to her and they love her and they're fans of her and because she has them all these other people not even putting her down will unfortunately say oh I want I want them to now because she's really pretty I'm going to get them too and it could be anybody it
04:18:18
Madison Vucould just be any random girl that they see on the street and that's what he's saying is it unfortunately leads to this downfall where women and other people men as well fall into this need or desire to change their bodies just
04:18:32
Madison Vubecause they're seeing one other person it's not just one person it could be thousands and thousands of people and that's what's happening constant plastic surgery unfortunately leads to so many people wanting to do the same and changing their bodies that's why we have
04:18:42
Naomi Lynnthe BBL we have the Kardashians which rivers also she said yeah I can I can see that I just don't personally agree with the fact that like it can't
04:18:53
Naomi Lynnjust be like okay I want this because IC why do you want cuz my laas I mean I don't have bigas but like they it just didn't fit nice in my underwear let's look at a much more common like uh
04:19:04
Brian Atlasplastic surgery procedure which would be uh breast implants for example there's no medically indicated reason to get breast implants sure I mean again I mentioned the can the breast talking
04:19:15
Michael Knowlesabout so then why would one do it because they want to change their body why do they want it for themselves what if what if someone literally just wanted it right I'm you're saying they want it cuz they want it but I'm just saying
04:19:27
Maddielike right what is in helling that desire or I've always happy with I've always wanted that's one reason yeah for sure but I'm happy with my body now I'm I think my boobs are great but I've
04:19:39
Madison Vualways wanted to have big boobs since I was a little kid I always like boobs like woo okay point exactly like that and that's not to say that like you can't naturally want it you can't naturally want a Ley plaster or anything else of course if you're feeling
04:19:51
Madison Vudiscomfort you're feeling discomfort with your breast but all in all unfortunately although you don't want to admit it you saw big boobs one time maybe your mom had big boobs you don't have them at that time maybe you're 13 14 whatever age it might have been said
04:20:04
Madison Vuoh I want mommy's boobs I did the same thing when I was younger most girls do most as do men with certain other aspect my mothers and I I kept feeling my chest brother's ABS or something of that sort and that's where it kind of comes to
04:20:16
Madison Vuit's just a comparison unfortunately but it's not to say that you can't want it for yourself it's not to say that you're just changing it for you you can do that I don't agree on that aspect that you're doing it for a man or for anybody else but ultimately it's because you saw someone else and you're comparing
04:20:28
Madison Vuyourself you're not holding see how most of the time people could put their themselves to whether or not comparon with someone else exactly so if I saw my mom big boobs when I was younger and I compared myself oh I'm flatchested I really want big boobs I might not still
04:20:41
Madison Vuthink about her breast in comparison to me now or wherever that may be in two years after that but regardless because I once saw that and I once made that comparison or made that little moment into my mind unfortunately that led to
04:20:54
Madison Vuthis weird feeling where I always want big boobs because I've compared myself whether it be my mom whether it be my sister whether it be whomever else that's just how it goes that's just a natural urge that a lot of women have with breast augmentations or other
04:21:06
Brian Atlasargument that they make I guess last thing on the plastic surgery thing I mean just for me I would prefer a woman who and I think a lot of a lot of men feel the exact same way on this I'd
04:21:18
Brian Atlasprefer a woman with a small upper lip than with lip filler I'd prefer a woman with flat or AUP breast than big fake titties I'd prefer a woman with a little
04:21:27
Brian Atlasbelly fat than lipo belly I'd prefer a woman with a small small butt than BBL I respect that and also the thing we
04:21:38
Michael Knowlestalked about that I like that after that long monologue of just all sorts of like disgusting physical you like you know I respect that Brian I I do I think I respect I don't respect respect that you
04:21:49
Michael Knowleslike her and I respect that you like women how they are and without having to do anything to change that that's what I respect I've never met a man who says that he prefers a woman with lots of
04:21:59
Brian Atlasplastic surgery no never once I met women who say the guys who like push their girlfriends to get plas
04:22:08
Brian Atlassurgery this is advice for women that's a red flag if the dud are pushing does that happen there are guys there are some guys I that's a no no for me I
04:22:19
Brian Atlasdon't fck with that they're doing but uh I mean I do want to say to any of any women watching there are plenty of men who will appreciate you as you for you as you are you know you don't got to
04:22:31
Brian Atlasundergo these very expensive and oftentimes dangerous uh surgeries to be uh you know to and because most of the time like yes that's so true and so beautifully said and everything also
04:22:42
Michael Knowlesjust practically most of the time they make women look worse it's not that's also a good point you lose your life to it a lot unfortunately Point good times
04:22:52
Brian Atlaswe have a couple more things here we have uh let's see we did the rating 1 to 10 um I think everybody here was a pretty much a 10 um I was going to be an
04:23:02
Brian Atlashate but then you said I should bump it up which I appreciate it's a bit delusional the not you but the whole 10 thing okay we have uh oh we got some tweets we got some people's
04:23:14
Brian Atlastweets let's see the tweets uh Nicollet here I always dip after my hookups and this guy said I'm just like a man Nicollet are you dipping after your
04:23:23
Brian Atlashookups yes like you you like hook up and then you're like peace out a wait oh you know what oh wait you say you dip oh wait I got something for you what you
04:23:34
Brian Atlasknow Usher user peace up a town down like that's what you should next time you have one of these hookups where you get the ick I want you to you know that song Yeah by Usher I want you'd be like
04:23:44
Brian Atlaspeace up a town down baby a town is that it peace up a town down a town down as you're leaving okay I'll do it and just totally crushing a
04:23:55
Michael Knowlesdude's spirit I got it as you leave the hook up um that's going to be someday like your grandkids going be like and then the first time my gr Grammy and Gramps hooked up she did the piece up awn down just dipped out like Fett on
04:24:07
Brian Atlasjet that's you my husband and that's when he knew she was the one uh next tweet Nick we got some tweets men are stupid and I don't
04:24:18
Brian Atlasrespect them hold on this kind of contradicts I was going through it clearly clearly clearly nich who hurt you me who hurt you niolet
04:24:30
Brian AtlasI don't know okay all right she's going through it she's going through it all right all right uh going to protest today guys I can't stand by and not take advantage of my white
04:24:41
Nicolletprivilage please pray for me and my friends privilage were during like the
04:24:48
Michael Knowlesthe yeah it was bigia matter RI it was 2020 protest oh the the George Floyd stuff so did you like burn down any buildings or anything just Ste any
04:25:00
Michael Knowlessneakers or uh no just wanted to see what was going on B do you have white privilege I'm not even white so was I wasn't going to ask but you don't seem
04:25:08
Brian Atlasbut I look white are you Latina yeah can't you be a wait I don't I'm notus there's the ethnicity and the race I'm not educated enough on Sicilians are
04:25:20
Michael Knowlesthe blacks of Europe so I'm a little bit of Bo I have family that's well didn't they used to say that about the Irish too right and the yeah well there was a thing called Black Irish but it's not like it's still pretty pale you know
04:25:30
Brian Atlasyeah okay uh next Nick I hate males I'm sing WTF Nicollet well I love them now it's her name what happened Uh I that
04:25:42
Naomi Lynnwas when when I was still with my ex so probably something about him Miss Andre is four years ago oh my gosh they're really going through the receipts right now mine all my ass so
04:25:53
Naomi Lynnhopefully that whole Twitter it's just my ass no I think I'm safe I don't ever tweet anything except my ass I wouldn't date a man who didn't respect me enough to let
04:26:05
Brian Atlasme do what I need to pay my bills oh we talked about this I mean with the dating yeah men ain't nicholet June 17th
04:26:14
Nicollet2020 uh what was going on in 2020 just probably my ex I wonder what he was talking right yeah he's not he wasn't on social media or that's a green flag my green
04:26:27
Maddieflag that's a green flag if you're not on social media as a guy well he on a red flag is thaten flag oh it's a green it's a total green flag it's a green flag like I want to date you more if you don't have social media I'm like oh my God that's so hot that is
04:26:40
Brian Atlashot we got more tweets Nick what do we got if you're man I'm entitled to all of your money so start sending Nicollet that's the pay Pig thing that's still valid that is valid entitled to all I
04:26:53
Brian Atlashave I have a question for the ladies here let's say you met a guy who was you know I don't know the s or pay Pig whatever it is and you knew like he he
04:27:04
Brian Atlasdidn't he seemed a little off and he was communic he was sending you money but while he was sending you this money he communicated to you that he was uh he was going bankrupt now would you
04:27:18
Nicollettake pause on taking his money no actually I've had this experience at the strip club where this customer that I knew for like years was literally going bankrupt he told me he
04:27:31
Nicolletwas going bankrupt and I was like okay well you still need to pay me like that's not my problem then you shouldn't be here yeah why are you going to the strip club like you're going excuse me I agree but it's different you know like the strip club where he pays you like 10
04:27:44
Michael Knowlesbucks to dance or whatever versus like it's not 10 bucks and also if you're going Bank run it up then well there's a kind of a logic that's fair honestly would you what about the one where they send you like
04:27:57
Maddie10 grand on Twitter or whatever would you do that the guy's going bankrupt and you'd say give me your last 10,000 that's not my fault he he wanted he wanted putting himself in that position
04:28:07
Maddielike what the to go broke just to send you money yeah but he's it's like obviously an addiction right he probably likees it's probably his fetish like we talked about earlier he wants attention paying for my attention it's
04:28:19
Michael Knowleslike at the end of day it's not my fault it's not in my business or my if the guy said hey I'll give you my last I'm going bankrupt I give you my last 10 bucks to buy crack would you sell him the crack the crack yeah it's just they say it's a harmful addiction that's destroying this
04:28:33
Maddieguys like would you I don't want anyone to go broke like I wouldn't want to take someone's last 10 grand like if if but if you're if you're pushing it on me to give it away that's not for me to sit there and be like no I'm not taking this
04:28:45
Nicolletno you cannot take it it is it actually is on you you could say I'm not taking the 0, if he's pushing it on me he's pushing it on me and like okay fine give me 9,500 that's that's that's very generous
04:28:57
Brian Atlasyou it's very charitable of you nicholet um all right next uh next tweet got uh hate small wait can you read this Nicolette cuz I feel like it's got to be I should I know this one hate small talk
04:29:09
Nicolletwith men just hit me up when you want to B oh you're not in the fan of small talk you just no cuz I don't care about your day I don't care about your favorite color I feel like you sound like so romantic sound like a girl that
04:29:20
Cindy Zangwould get these just guys I'm though so romantic you sound like you would like get a guy like purposely pregnant to trap him so he can pay you like yeah cuz girls do that get him
04:29:32
Nicolletprant yeah like you would trap him you would give him a baby mil no just so he he can pay you no cuz I could get a guy to pay me without a
04:29:42
Nicolletbaby I don't want a baby next but if he's a millionaire if he's a billionaire next next then I'll just marry him no not really like I just don't need we as women don't need to do
04:29:55
Nicolletall that like I'd rather just not have the money like a baby or all this money with some guy that I don't actually give a about like I just don't need it that
04:30:04
Nicolletbad next next this guy oh read it read it nlet this guy told me I want your metal in my mouth talking about my nipple piercings and it confirmed that I do in fact hate
04:30:17
Michael Knowlesmen what nicholette but he's giving you there's a lot of man hating in your tweets here I was very angry around that time fair enough too I don't but around men like saying that stuff to me all the time you would start would like if men
04:30:29
Michael Knowleswanted to suck your nipp don't people don't usually tweet that at me but you know if they did I would hate them too this was a guy I was H hooking up with and he literally told me like as we're
04:30:39
Brian Atlashooking up and I'm like e wait what okay yeah next the next one's Stella who Stella Stella oh oh she she yeah that
04:30:52
Brian Atlasyeah she wasn't this is C we got Cindy here oh this is it this guy paid me oh oh
04:31:01
Brian Atlasyeah 10,000 to let me spit on him next time in I'm in La yeah that's disgusting okay next that's it there
04:31:12
Brian Atlasthere's no more tweets I thought there were some tweets from get your B what that's fire who who else we got oh we got something we got a tweet from Matty what's ain't none of y'all my ex
04:31:24
Maddiehe hits dip of course I tweeted that I don't even use can you make that noise again no s that was good
04:31:34
Brian Atlasum it's true I would feel so uncomfortable if i s if I was dating a girl and I saw she tweeted that that would just like forever burn I literally
04:31:46
Maddiehaven't dated since him so I mean I don't know you're still in love with your ex-boyfriend I still love him a lot yeah still love for him on and off so were you could you get back together not
04:31:57
Maddieright now why not not happening you don't need to tell me why but it's like a on both ends there's reasons that it would not happen right now but you still love him yeah of course I
04:32:09
Maddieguess that's ni is this the ex who cheated with your best friend no this is the one I met after that one huh thank you for asking that and making that clear because I want everyone thinking no yeah yeah well that's I
04:32:22
Maddieguess it'd be nice is he it was the X I met when I was like graduating high school like as a like a senior in high school graduated is he like a good guy or no yeah he's a really good guy so you should get back together not right now okay maybe in the
04:32:35
Michael Knowlesfuture future I I would love for that to happen in the future but not right now okay I feel like an ex you took your little time too right you broke up with your we did but I in respect look it all works out in God's Providence you know
04:32:47
Michael Knowlesso I'm not saying you know it happens when it's supposed to I guess but if it were up to me Andy and my wife would say the same thing we should have gotten back together much sooner and got married sooner and everything yeah but hindsight's 2020 yeah it's just
04:33:00
Brian Atlasdifferent now a little bit I don't know we'll see how it goes yeah we we have something here from Cindy perhaps a few other of you um oh Cindy you said you'd love to talk
04:33:12
Brian Atlasabout how it's hard to date is an only fans oh we kind of talked about that um my experience in La if you're dating people it's that you have to meet someone in your caliber most relationship people are in are in wait
04:33:24
Brian Atlasmost relationship people are in are even real your words not mine it just turns into a lustful relationship uh okay that didn't make a whole lot of
04:33:35
Brian Atlassense but um you're you you live in LA right who else here who lives in La you live in la la Nicollet uh Orange
04:33:45
MaddieCounty close enough close enough La no oh you're in Arizona okay yeah and you're in La yeah I am what about you guys are in Atlanta we drove here from Atlanta a few days ago you drove here
04:33:56
Maddiefrom at we drove 38 hours and 48 hours 38 hours and 48 hours we were hallucinating like real bad sweet right wow isn't it cheaper to just fly so she's moving out here so she had to
04:34:08
Brian Atlasbring her car and she wanted a where you moving to um San Diego oh SD nice I like San Diego that's cool um did you stop in any cities on the way we stopped in Dallas for the night I love sex I have a
04:34:20
Sophiereally funny story from you danc you danced with a man there oh my God I did I almost I almost let him take me out on a ski trip that's that 5% right there it
04:34:30
Sophiewas the% it was cute so I'm sitting here truth comes out this guy comes up asks Maddie to country dance I don't even know what they do yeah they're like line dancing and I'm I don't know how to dance but you
04:34:42
Sophiecan take me out like I I don't know fun so this guy comes up to me he looks really country has a hat on and boots and he's like you want to dance with me and I'm like I don't know how to dance
04:34:53
Sophieand he's like I do I'll teach you so he picks me up and he starts spinning me around we start dancing I'm asking in questions and I'm like what do you do we're just talking I ask him how old he is he's 28 then he shows me his
04:35:06
SophieInstagram because he wants mine and I see he like has skiing pictures so I'm like oh do you ski or snowboard he's like I ski I was like me too he was like when was the last time you've been I was like 3 weeks ago why he's like cuz you
04:35:18
Sophieknow I'm going to Breen Ridge in two weeks and I want to fly you out like I know I just met you and this is really forward but I want to fly you out you should go are you going to go no cuz as he said that he spit on my face people
04:35:29
Sophiepay good money for that no as he said that he is gleeking on my face it's the most rep iive thing I ever heard and drunk me is trying to stay interested cuz this man just offered to take me to bricken Ridge and I love skiing so I'm
04:35:41
Maddielike M he also asked if I wanted to go too I was like I'll go there at least you should go no no no I'm only going cuz she liked her so I was like and I was her I was there as her friend so I got invited to go too just so she wouldn't be alone I let's go for it
04:35:54
Sophiesopia I used my dad's an excuse I was like my dad's really strict you'll have to ask him if you remember me in the morning then I'll let you take me he remembered but he did oh good but the whole he spit in my face that was where like it was accidental though it was
04:36:06
Brian Atlasaccidental but still disgusting and I just can't did he have like a Zin or something yeah was there dip does anyone have Zin right now I don't think so I think it was just organic space I have
04:36:17
Brian Atlasmy babe no I'm good I'm not should we smoke yes is that that's the story though that was the that was the story oh Nick can you pull up Cindy's Instagram we do have
04:36:29
Brian Atlasto uh I want Michael's input on this um so who here is religious just curious I I believe in God believe in God but like are are you Christian or or more just
04:36:41
Cindy Zangyou generally so wait love Catholics Cindy you're Christian yeah I believe in God I see you're wearing a cross there and I am Catholic Catholic okay which I was going to ask you do you
04:36:52
Brian Atlasstill think that I should wear a cross when I'm making the my o content well we had a sort of viral exchange about that the first thing I wanted to F first bring up bring up is your Instagram Nick if you're able to bring up her what the
04:37:05
Brian AtlasH wait Nick make it bigger make it bigger like Zoom it in just to the top I don't I don't need to see the photos see you you got it Nick it's all
04:37:14
Brian Atlasgood Cindy Zang God first now right below God first in your Instagram profile is a link to your website which inevitably re pretty much redirects
04:37:26
Brian Atlasessentially to your only fans account where you make pornographic content that's interesting to me so God first it's almost BL I don't know if it's if
04:37:38
Brian Atlasthat meets the definition of blasphemy but literally below it is a link to your pornographic content explain that to me make that make
04:37:51
Cindy Zangsense there's nothing wrong with the content that I make and I don't think God is shaming me for anything that I am doing right now so nothing wrong yeah
04:38:03
Michael Knowlesthat's not the best answer but a good what do you want me to say well you might say hypocrisy is the tribute Vice Pace to Virtue and you know you believe in God but you're kind of doing things that maybe are contrary to that but you're kind of working on it and so I
04:38:15
Michael Knowleswouldn't you know the better thing to do would be keep the necklace and you know give up the only fan stuff but the fact that you've got that reminder there is probably good because there's it's a reminder that we we worship the things
04:38:27
Michael Knowlesthat we spend all of our time and our affection on right and so you can come to worship money and you can come to worship sex and you come to worship all sorts of of false gods or you can worship the real God and and furthermore
04:38:38
Michael Knowlesyou become what you worship so the the when you worship something you just become more like it and uh Ag and you're Torn Between Two Gods right so you're and and you're Torn Between Two Gods there's only one God right well they're
04:38:51
Cindy Zangfalse gods there're plenty of false gods right we make false gods out of money and sex and vanity and ourselves anything that you're putting above God yeah so so you you and you're kind of it seems to me I'm not putting anything above God God is first and I like I pray
04:39:04
Cindy Zangevery single I'm very blessed with my job he actually blessed me with everything I came from nothing literally but if you know if you believe in God and you think that like uh you believe
04:39:15
Michael Knowlesin like the Christian God yes yeah yeah okay so then you know you would say well um so there's God and then there's Satan what I should have said on the other
04:39:24
Brian Atlaspodcast was that Satan is trying to sway you from believing in God the the question that I asked was uh so I think it was
04:39:36
Brian Atlaswell my question I think the first question was do you think God wants wants you making porn to your and your answer
04:39:44
Cindy Zangwas I said okay the first time I said yes but and then I wanted to just change my resp like I think that there's
04:39:55
Brian Atlasnothing wrong with what I what I do and um well the The Exchange we had my my follow-up question was if God wants you
04:40:05
Brian Atlasto be a porn star what do you think Satan
04:40:12
Brian Atlaswants s Satan wants you to sway you from believing in God's purpose okay but your your response was
04:40:20
Brian AtlasSatan would want you to not do porn and God would want you to do porn yeah my response was that MH but like I
04:40:31
Cindy Zangunderstand what you're saying like people are can be lusting over porn and like sex work content that's their that's their choice but what I'm doing I'm not harming
04:40:41
Michael Knowlesanybody but but the the uh religion that you profess to believe in doesn't just boil down to hey don't harm anybody that's that's just like libertarianism you know the religion that you say that
04:40:52
Michael Knowlesyou believe in has ten commandments the sixth of which is uh to not commit adultery and the god that you profess to believe in says that if you look on a woman with lust that is the same as
04:41:04
Michael Knowlesadultery and the religion that you profess to believe in has a a sexual ethic that that accompanies it and so you might say well I don't believe in any of that stuff I just believe in a a version of that that God that I've
04:41:16
Michael Knowlesfashioned after my own preferences but that gets to the very point we were just talking about which is you're in this struggle between which God you're you're going to worship and I I can tell you're struggling with that because you you protest too much you put in your bio I
04:41:28
Michael Knowlesput God first right among all of this kind of Lusty stuff and so you're struggling with it a lot of people struggle with that not struggling with it I pray every day I believe you pray every day I still stand by the fact that
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Cindy Zanghe's blessed like ever since I got baptized and I start following God's path he's blessed me with every opportunity I have been given to me and I'm very grateful I would not like sit
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Cindy Zanghere and like say that he hasn't done anything for me and I'm not grateful or anything like that but like with the
04:42:00
Cindy Zangfact of like um you know like sinning from lus and watching I get all that but that's their choice at the end of the day not mine um and yeah like I don't
04:42:12
Cindy Zangthink God's oh you're saying it's only it's only a sin to look at the porn not to produce the porn I'm not making porn on my on my
04:42:23
Cindy Zangonly fans so I mean you kind of are aren't you like being naked is considered a sin well it is it's considered porn
04:42:35
Michael Knowlesyeah we all sin though every day we do I'm just saying look I'm I'm not knocking you I'm not judging you I'm just saying you you the fact that you would have that on on this page that has a bunch of porn on you say but I put God
04:42:45
Michael Knowlesfirst I to me would imply that you are struggling between what I'm not struggling so says you I'm I'm not sure I'm not struggling I believe in God
04:42:55
Michael Knowlesevery day and I I I bet you do to a large degree but when those two things come into conflict when you say I believe in God believe in the Bible I believe in
04:43:05
Michael KnowlesChristianity and God and the Bible and Christianity say hey don't engage in promiscuity and sexual immorality and you know sex outside of marriage and
04:43:15
Michael Knowlesthis that and the other thing uh you're you have to face a choice well do do I pursue that God or the god of do as thou Wilt and go have sex and go produce porn or whatever those things are going to
04:43:28
Michael Knowlescome into conflict and so you have to come to a decision and you can you can pick one or the other but that will become your God and you will be become more like the god that you
04:43:36
Cindy Zangworship okay well I worship a God that like walks on Earth with Grace and dignity and um I feel nothing wrong with what
04:43:47
Michael KnowlesI'm doing right now do you really not so so then how do you answer like the sixth commandment how do I answer sixth what is the sixth commandment th shalt not
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Michael Knowlescommit adultery and more broadly speaking U sexual immorality if if the if you're chosen profession is sexual immorality
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Cindy Zanghow do you reconcile that with the the faith okay but still like there's nothing wrong with that even people who are but the religion says there is something wrong with that and and you say you believe in the religion so so then you got then you might say well I
04:44:22
Michael Knowlesactually don't believe in the religion but you but you just said you believe believe so then how do you reconcile those that conflict there's nothing to reconcile because the religion says don't do this
04:44:34
Michael Knowlesyou say I'm going to do this how do you re you have to reconcile that or or you have to say I don't believe in the one I I only believe in the other he's not God you don't have to
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Naomi Lynnlike J I'm just saying like there's really nothing take take what applies take what applies drop whatever does Into You number one if that makes you happy we all number two which is you
04:44:57
Brian Atlasknow make a God out of yourself in your own autonomy number two you don't really know me I'm I'm not judging you in any way I'm just asking but of the information that he has based off you know you wear a cross while you shoot
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Michael Knowlesyour por you can make that judgment and I'm not making any judgment you've made I'm not you've made you've made two statements and they contradict each other right you said I believe in God I believe in the Christian religion I I
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Michael Knowlesbelieve in the Bible and the Ten Commandments and all the rest of it and I believe that the thing that I'm doing that is explicitly prohibited by my religion is good and I'm saying you can
04:45:32
Michael Knowlesonly believe one of those two things things coherently because they contradict one another and and I'm I'm not knocking you I'm not saying you have to make an account of your life or anything I actually believe you're most likely already struggling with that
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Michael Knowlesbecause you have both of those things very explicitly and it's and it would be unusual for people in your profession to have that kind of a profession of Faith at the top and I think it's good that you have it and I think it's good that you wear the cross and I think it's good
04:45:56
Cindy Zangthat you're praying but you're going to have to reconcile that conflict eventually I don't think I have to reconcile anything like I still think that like God gave me
04:46:08
Brian Atlasthis opportunity to do what I do um and I'm very happy wait God gave you the opportunity to make pornographic content adult content oh excuse me adult content
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Brian Atlasum do you wear you wear do you wear your cross while you're making the pornographic content like is it is it in the final product I wear my like if you're distri you wear it everywhere you go but if