Michael Knowles DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Are OF/E-Girls Traditional?! | Dating Talk #132
Date: 2024-02-02
Duration: 6h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_02Sophie(guest)
SPEAKER_03Nicollet(guest)
SPEAKER_06Michael Knowles(guest)
SPEAKER_07Madison Vu(guest)
SPEAKER_09Maddie(guest)
SPEAKER_10Cindy Zang(guest)
SPEAKER_11Mia Huffman(guest)
SPEAKER_12Naomi Lynn(guest)
Key Moments
00:06:38
IntroMichael Knowles introduction - 'I am a cigar salesman and I do not yet do only fans'
“I'm Michael nolles I am a cigar salesman and I do not yet do only fans and I don't intend to”
00:08:08
Key MomentSophie reveals her ex-fiance was born female and transitioned to male mid-engagement
“when we started dating he said I'm a woman I want to be treated like a woman and then he transitioned”
01:32:49
QuoteNaomi Lynn reveals she left a six-figure corporate director-of-sales job for OnlyFans
“I was a director of sales... six figures regardless... I quit it to do only fans”
01:35:35
QuoteMaddie discloses she's made $200-300K from sugar daddies and 100-200 paid dates
“probably a few hundred thousand... should we say 300,000 safe number”
01:43:46
QuoteCindy reveals a fan pre-paid $10K to spit on him; meetup not yet happened
“one of my fans said they would pay like $10,000 for me to spit on them... yeah I said yeah I'm down”
02:07:06
QuoteMichael Knowles on the road to redemption for OF girls: stop, then go to church
“the very first thing I would recommend doing is stop... go to church as much as you want to”
02:20:44
ControversyCindy accuses Brian of subscribing to her OnlyFans after seeing 'Brian Atlas' in her subscriber list
“I saw in my statements as this your your first and last name”
03:49:31
QuoteRatings round - Brian self-rates as a 5 due to gained weight/dad bod
“I used to rate myself a six however I've gained a bit of weight... I'm now a five cuz I got a bit of a dad bod”
11:12:00
Key MomentMadison Vu discloses frat-rat history at Cal Poly Pomona; walked in on by frat members
“I used to go to Cal Poly Pomona I was a little frat rat... walked in on by the whole frat no just like large groups”
Topics Discussed
00:05:39
Guest introductions and relationship statuses
Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Then relationship status round. Sophie's broken engagement to a trans man is a major discussion point.
01:25:00
OnlyFans and sex work economy
Discussion of sugar daddies, pay pigs, 'What's Your Price' app, escort-adjacent paid dates. Maddie describes 100-200 paid dates and a $100K sugar daddy. Cindy discusses a fan paying $10K to spit on him.
02:10:00
Michael Knowles debates OF girls on relationships and marriage
Michael Knowles challenges the panel on how OnlyFans/sex work affects long-term relationship prospects. Discussion of whether women can 'have it all' and still find a quality partner later.
03:06:40
Feminism, equal pay, women's sports
Maddie says she supports feminism but 'not over the top'. Discussion of WNBA pay equity, women's soccer, and whether equal pay demands are consistent.
03:18:20
Aliens, religion, and the supernatural
Michael argues aliens are 'just demons for libs' and there's no evidence for extraterrestrial life. Cindy and Naomi say they'd date an alien if rich/attractive enough.
03:49:31
Self-ratings round (looks 1-10)
Everyone rates their looks 1-10. Most women say 10. Brian rates himself 5 (gained weight, dad bod). Michael rates himself 8.
03:56:40
Dating preferences and exclusivity
Brian explains he wants women who are exclusively interested in him from first date; no other men in the picture. Panel pushes back on this as unrealistic.
04:08:20
Plastic surgery debate
Debate over labiaplasty, breast implants, BBLs. Naomi (SPEAKER_12) reveals she had a labiaplasty during a year of celibacy. Brian argues plastic surgery is a proxy for mental illness or excessive vanity.
04:30:00
Religion, Christianity, and porn
Michael Knowles debates Cindy on wearing a cross while doing porn. Sophie discusses her Biblical scholarship and her non-denominational Christian background. Broader discussion of Catholicism, Bible translation, abortion.
05:25:00
Makeup and physical deception
Brian argues makeup is deceptive; panel defends makeup as self-expression. Comparison to men wearing shoe lifts or toupees. Makeup transformation videos shown.
Transcript
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00:57:28
Maddiesomething fresh too you said it just happened I've been there before where my safety was in Jeopardy too and I understand what you're saying I feel that yeah that's it's not normal in jobs
00:57:38
Maddieyou know oddly enough in my job someone at Walmart I think I think it's the obsession that comes with it I think it's not the stalking where it starts
00:57:48
Michael Knowlesbut the buildup and by the way that's not that's not just like a a random by chance accident of the industry that's built in the whole point is these guys are supposed to get obsessed with you and then give you a lot of money and and then sometimes it goes over and it's
00:58:02
Nicolletreally a dangerous situation you say the same thing about Brian people idiz him and want to stalk him there were stalkers outside for him push I have
00:58:12
Mia Huffmansome I I do deal with some uh and you're not over here in a little bik or anything bad Brian but there's extense to it because Brian's that's certainly
00:58:23
Brian Atlaswell I I will admit well this this would apply to any sort of uh anyone who has any sort of public facing career or has uh who does content creation online whether it's related to uh adult content
00:58:34
Brian Atlasor not when you put yourself out there on the internet and you get any sort of uh you start having any even a small
00:58:41
Brian Atlaslevel of uh uh followers or or even Fame then you're going to it kind of comes with the territory celebrities deal with it content creators deal with it and
00:58:54
Michael Knowlesthink about the kind of uh people who would follow you you know you kind of generate your own audience right based on what you put out there so for whoever listens to my show and speeches it tends
00:59:04
Michael Knowlesto be these really sweet you know like Christian girls and occasionally some you know traditional conservative dudes who get really into the Crusades or whatever none of whom pose any threat to
00:59:16
Michael Knowlesme really but if if I were like a cute girl on only fans and I were um putting out content that were arousing creepy d then you're going to get then the people who are going to be aroused are going to be the creepy dudes and those are the
00:59:29
Maddielast guys that you want to be have to be creepy dudes I know very like normal people that subscribe to my only fans to my mom's friends areal fans my mom's friends are subscribed to my only fans
00:59:41
Maddielike people in my parents my mom's daily lives were subscribed to my only fans and I had to learn does she know honestly I don't know yeah probably not right cuz they know it's creepy and they
00:59:53
Maddiedon't want to tell your mom that I don't think that she knows her friends who are subscribed to my fans it's creepy yeah yeah no I mean I've just had to learn to work with it and work around it how' you find out like they message you or I
01:00:05
Maddiedon't really know how it works they're yeah their usernames and they've texted me through my personal personal number and personal Instagram you know oh I was just pointing to them I feel like if you
01:00:17
Nicollethaven't taken into consideration before you decide to make yourself an online presence then that's on you it's yeah it's part it's part of the territory it comes with the job like I'm not going to
01:00:27
Michael Knowleslet that mess with my money because I know who you are like if like it sucks but is the money worth it though at a certain point maybe now you say the money is worth it but at a certain point if you're listing all these terrible things that go along with it especially what you're saying at a certain point
01:00:40
Michael Knowlesdon't you say you know I could be making half a million dollars a year I could be making a million dollars a year it's not look man I like it's nice having money it it doesn't matter that much really you know you want a roof over your head decent food you want to be able to support your loved ones but you don't
01:00:54
Maddieyou actually don't need that much money to do that but it gets addictive to I think it's a comfort thing like I think you get to a point and you get into a certain lifestyle and you're you're used to it Bingo well there's lifestyle creep too then you started totally yeah I kind
01:01:07
Michael Knowlesof got thrown into the lifestyle like this last year it's hard to you know yeah no I know friends who make millions of dollars a year and truly if if it fell they would go bankrupt in two seconds because they get it's for years
01:01:19
Michael KnowlesI've known people like this but back in Hollywood and it but you don't you don't need like five lamborghin right you don't it's it's kind of nice don't need it you don't need it we have a chat here that I'm going to get right now we have
01:01:30
Brian AtlasFour's question for the lesbians does it make you mad when you watch male to female adult content porn um I don't
01:01:40
Brian Atlasusually find myself watching male to female adult content what if accident accient stop ask if you know no okay she does not object to that okay well I I do
01:01:52
Brian Atlaswant to go back really quick because I don't think I got an answer from everybody actually before I do that we were going around the table on everybody's single status I think we left off with you we didn't get to Mia here uh you're single for a year or so
01:02:06
Brian Atlasbut come on you've been C well hold on point of clarification have you been celibate for a year I don't believe you you don't have to believe me no but
01:02:17
Brian AtlasI've been C it for a while believe you okay well going around the table again those of you who are single have you been celibate youve been
01:02:26
Brian Atlascelibate Cindy mhm that is such a really good girl a ter okay okay um and just one clarification I want to dig a little
01:02:36
Brian Atlasbit on this Cindy you said on your o you don't do any nudity oh uh I do okay because I think
01:02:47
Cindy Zangwell the the last how do you make money and you've never done boy wait Cindy have you never done really on okay I say for a year I didn't I didn't even post nudes for a year but that's because I
01:03:00
Maddiealready had so like I had I had a media status Instagram then pictures full clothes elb I'm basically naked on my Instagram so then how do you make money on your only fans
01:03:09
Cindy Zangthen if they can see it on your Instagram par social relationship I I like body I like the art of being
01:03:18
Brian Atlascomfortable in your body okay I feel comfortable showing skin on Instagram wait but Cindy um so on your o or in any other website in any of the
01:03:31
Brian Atlascontent you've you've ever been featured in or produced or made you've never have you done any content with like boy girl content I have in the past I don't anymore yeah you last time you were on
01:03:43
Brian Atlasyou didn't say that you said you've never never done content with a guy I have done content with a guy oh so why is your story
01:03:51
Cindy Zangchanging I've only done like uh video but that's okay and
01:04:02
Cindy Zangokay his face right now is killing me your face is hilarious okay but it hasn't been like hardcore Okay and like honestly just a not hardcore
01:04:13
Cindy Zanglike honestly yeah but like okay for a year I was literally just posting laundry and I just got comfortable and there's nothing wrong with it that was kind of the point I was making earlier you start with that line
01:04:26
Brian Atlasand then often maybe not for everybody not for everyone but can happen I'll give it to you other way yep you got it well done well done can you wait Nick
01:04:35
Brian Atlascan you hear me yeah he he got you so I don't I like making content I like the lifestyle that I have now um okay so y'all are how long have y'all been
01:04:46
Brian Atlascelibate since you're single and not there's no guys in the picture how long have you been celebrating no I would say like yesterday no like maybe a month and
01:04:57
Maddiea half ago I got drunk and you know whatever but not since then Cindy what about you how long you been SEL it for since last year
01:05:07
Michael KnowlesRyan okay I went live with Jasmine japar last night so okay I was with her earlier today I know you were W look at that we went live too
01:05:18
Naomi Lynnthat's my girl yeah probably very different um my my's pretty hardcore I make content pretty often so thank you for sharing that yeah just with one person though I'm not like a wh or anything
01:05:29
Nicolletnette um so I have a really funny story actually so I was celibate for the past 4 months and then I was just like really horny one night and I met this hot firefighter he was like
01:05:40
Maddie63 tatto firefighters be hot fir something about a firefighter
01:05:51
Nicolletlike swear to God the thank you so I was like well it's been 4 months I need some dick and so I like go to his house oh
01:06:02
Nicolletand let me preface before he was like talking like this big game like oh I can go multiple rounds you haven't seen nothing yet and so we get to his place
01:06:13
Nicolletthis has never happened to me before he like puts it in I kid you not I just go back on it like once boom pre- ejaculated and I was like what the the
01:06:24
Nicolletso I'm not counting it I wouldn't count it either so wait when a guy like say if they don't count that was the only time that was the first time that's ever happened and he was wearing a condom too so like something's wrong
01:06:37
Maddiewith him probably why and he didn't by your performance he didn't even get me off so like it doesn't count if they don't make you come it doesn't count we're drawing the line yeah that one specifically so
01:06:51
Nicolletyeah I'm not counting that so four months okay Fair sure
01:06:57
Brian Atlasfireman okay um damn he disappointed he did maybe I I don't see why and Michael if you want to do ear muffs for this
01:07:08
Brian Atlasperhaps yeah I'm kidding uh why is it the ca there's such a double standard here because you know if a guy comes too quick that's terrible but if a woman
01:07:17
Maddiecomes too quick when have you heard too heard of a woman coming too quick I don't happen to you like genuinely in real life where woman's come in 30
01:07:28
Brian Atlasseconds are under are you sure she didn't fake it no there are some like she can just keep once you come there's women you keep going there are women who like can they'll come really quick and
01:07:41
Brian Atlasthey tend to be multi-orgasmic so sorry Michael sorry Michael no that's always I put that in my log line of my show multi so they tend if the ones that come quick they tend to also be able to come
01:07:53
Brian Atlasyou know they can come 10 times in 5 minutes I feel like that's even better for guy no it's good where are all the the female premature ejaculators it's not it wouldn't be premature though that's what I'm wondering if you could actually go round
01:08:06
Nicolletfor round like you said and then just talk all this then it would be fine yeah but you can't go for whenever the guy gets off that's like the end of it that's like usually when sex ends that's why you got to please your woman before
01:08:18
Maddieyeah tell them got get her there you get there but if you're but if you're coming too quick how is that supposed to happen
01:08:30
Madison Vulike if a guy comes too quick and we first start hooking up like I'm secret Brian BLM I got okay you know wait what's that all about for BLM you have the secret what that all about real
01:08:42
Brian Atlasquick tell us the secret there's like three different questions three different question what's the secret ingredi I'm just saying there's other methods I would love to hear it yeah we'll count to 10 seriously
01:08:54
Brian Atlasyes I'll just say look there's uh you know you could you could use your hands there's there's toys that you can use you know so there's like a big pull lever thing there's a weird rtion then
01:09:06
Maddieat that point we might not we might as well not have had sex at all like what do you mean if I can use a toy then I might as well just be myself if I can make
01:09:18
Maddiemyself that's such a great observation about hookup culture like I can make we said that earlier make myself come I don't want to hook up with you because you're not going to make me come like what so you say you picked up this uh
01:09:30
Michael Knowlesfiran who who didn't get the job done and so you say that was a bad night and I shouldn't have done it I don't even want it to count and I don't I might as well have just stayed home alone by myself isn't that true of all of the hookup culture which is just totally pointless in my opinion you're just
01:09:42
Maddietreating someone like a sex toy to for your own gratification no guy that I've ever hooked up with for like a one night stand has ever made me come like Point Blank period I don't know if I've just got unlucky
01:09:55
Michael Knowlesbut I've never had a good one stands have you had more than I can count on my 10 fingers and that's where I'm going to so then wouldn't it be to like you were saying I don't want to get married yet I don't want to do this but if you were married you would not have had the bad
01:10:07
Michael Knowlesexperience with the firemen you'd presumably pick a guy who you know gets the job done and then you'd have all these great nights and not this sa this this short you know brief self- satisfaction if even that so why are you
01:10:19
Michael Knowlestrying to push marriage on me so bad because it's good and it's the natural of sex what's wrong with finding yourself what like sex is for The Natural end of sex yeah it's like what sex is geared toward it's not supposed to be with like you and Brian's weird
01:10:32
Naomi LynnContraption upstairs and it's not supposed to be with like you alone and are you show us after Brian yeah what conts I have no idea what Michael's
01:10:42
Sophietalking I'm intrigued I'm serious in I wasn't supposed to mention itong a woman not actively looking for a husband though and just living her life for her then she just he said how do
01:10:57
Mia Huffmanhave like these one night stands that they admit are disappointing in themselves that's fun and not everyone finds it fun though like she said that not a one night stand she had
01:11:09
Maddiemyin I would just rather someone who like knows my body and knows how to make me come so valid makes everything reason why you've had more
01:11:19
Brian Atlasthan 10 one night stands oh body has fun sometimes so well you just said it just it is a bit contradictory no and I get it I'm just
01:11:30
Maddienot a perfect person like I started having sex when I was a young age like I was too young to be having sex and that's that's what it came down to like and they're not all that's never happened to me before
01:11:42
Brian Atlasthat's actually another perfect argument for why women especially should not engage in hookup culture because I think men's orgasm response is fairly typical it's fairly easy at least for men men to
01:11:54
Brian Atlasto achieve that whereas women often complain that heck even with regular Partners sometimes they don't even climax so that's an even stronger argument for why women should not be so willing to engage in casual sex or one
01:12:06
Brian Atlasnight stands or hookup culture because you're not even it's it's a transitory casual sexual encounter but you're not even climaxing now granted even within
01:12:17
Brian Atlasthe confines of relationship even if you don't climax hope hopefully you do but I think sex can still be enjoyed I think we can all agree even if you don't always hopefully most of the time you do but sometimes you don't and I think it
01:12:29
Naomi Lynncan still be a bonding experience and you can still it's still pH physically pleasurable and enjoyable so so did you just contradict yourself what do you mean think by saying that I'm sorry you
01:12:40
Naomi Lynnjust circle all the way back to what you said girls shouldn't be engaging in hookup culture but then you're like but even if you don't come you should enjoy the experience I mean that was more of a
01:12:51
Brian Atlascaveat but like you know it's it's more often the case that in a casual encounter the woman is less likely to climax than the man so it's a very strong argument she needs to just speak up what's that what you can still have
01:13:03
Brian Atlasfun though like you she just need to like talk you through it it can I'm sorry that that's been your experience but like wait here's a question for the for the ladies at the table who believes
01:13:13
Brian Atlaswho actually which one do I want to ask first um have you going around the table
01:13:19
Brian Atlashave you ever faked an orgasm I have you have definitely in sex specifically as opposed to well I mean
01:13:31
Maddiewe're content creators like we're content creat no no no no no like with a real like real life sex not making it not content no okay yes oh hold on just a sec regretful
01:13:44
TTS/Donationsho donated $200 of girls will your confidence diminish with age or when you stop BC you're conditioning yourself now that think confidence SL selfworth is
01:13:55
TTS/Donationsdetermined by sxx Dollar body Beauty what will be left of you I like how their username is regretful
01:14:04
Nicolletho they're warning us regretful ho do you guys have a I have more to offer than just my hot body so I think when I'm old I'll be
01:14:15
Michael Knowlesfine and happy with myself but isn't the point that a lot of people have said well part of the reason I've enjoyed doing porn and only fans is because it gives me confidence but of course the confidence is just the agulation of
01:14:27
Michael Knowlesthese creepy dudes and money so those will go away over time as the commenter says and then if you if you ground your self-worth and your sense of value on those things you're going to be out of luck isn't that my husband's job then
01:14:39
TTS/Donationswhen I do decide to Quinn settle down to make me feel hot even in my old age right so that's what I think the donated $200 brixon are you aware one in three
01:14:49
TTS/Donationswomen aged 16 to 30 have sdd now the panel of plag grats you've gathered this even specimens of disease I'm going to
01:14:58
Brian Atlasbe sick # you allave her # filthy I I should tell you there's a bit of lore so Jay Butler every single show for the
01:15:07
Brian Atlaspast four or five months every show wow he always mentions did he mention herpes yeah all have herpes playground he
01:15:18
TTS/Donationsalways he is a urologist he's a urologist and he just D and D out grid One Motorsports donated $200 the best thing about casual sex is
01:15:30
TTS/Donationsthe men care even less about you than you do about yourselves do they never wake up at 30 unmarried childless and
01:15:38
Brian Atlaswonder why the dating value is so low oh um you
01:15:46
Brian Atlassomething just just to finish off on this thread uh have you ever faked an o an oh um no yes yeah um question you didn't ask
01:15:59
Michael Knowlesme oh all the time all I mean during at breakfast no on my flight actually they all yeah they had
01:16:08
Brian Atlasto your wife yeah crazy like with any of the others I prefer not to disclose details of my sexual life okay uh
01:16:18
Brian Atlasrespectable wait so question wait show Pence who who has again okay don't you guys think communication's really important in a relationship and this I a frequent
01:16:30
Brian Atlascomplaint I hear from women is is that men are these awful communicators men are terrible at communicating but wouldn't faking that so you're saying that once you terrible
01:16:41
Cindy Zangcommunication if you only know the guy for like a day or so like you think it's appropriate to just text him like oh you didn't like I faked orgasm or something like what you you say communication you
01:16:54
Nicolletwant us to tell them that in the moment in the moment I feel like it's awkward though for you going to quote that one Kanye song you know like back in the day you
01:17:03
Sophieused to have like fake orgasms and but now you tell them I want to come MH I feel like at the time that I faked orgasms I was 17 and not as confident and I didn't possess the communication
01:17:15
Maddieskills I have now so probably I think when I faked an orgasm was cuz I just wanted it over with I was over it I was like I need this to be done I
01:17:24
Nicolletwas like move on so this is literally this needs to be done that's that was my reason like seriously I was over it you can tell the guy hey I'm not feeling
01:17:36
Maddiethis like I want to go no but like in I have had guys like not respect that and be like I'm like I'm like I'm like okay like sorry I'm like we're at Mid having
01:17:48
Maddiesex it's not good I'm like okay this like kind we kind of need to wrap this up and they're like okay well I'm not done yet so it's that's for me that's where I'm like I'm faking this is over this needs to be done like I'm trying to run that was me also at a young age when I didn't
01:18:00
Maddieknow how to communicate like I'm done and I'm walking out when I hit a certain point I was like okay I'm done and I can speak up for myself but before that was how it was wait so how frequently did
01:18:11
Brian Atlasyou want to or would you mid quitus quitus sexual intercourse just get get up and walk
01:18:22
Maddieaway oh multiple times yes I was done I was outed there and I I got to go done how why cuz they were giving me the ick yeah totally during and you deter iy
01:18:35
Michael Knowlesthey were totally icky so you know if this is happening multiple times is like a pattern you know then wouldn't that suggest to you like huh maybe this group of guys or this kind of situation we
01:18:47
Maddieshould like avoid that I feel like this is all speaking of like in years ago too like I recent as recently I very specific about who I have sex with and who I have those kind of interactions
01:18:59
Maddiewith so I wouldn't say it's recent but but when it comes to the ick isn't that isn't that something that you could have no it's like the facial expressions
01:19:11
Maddieduring sex really gross me out of some people like seriously like if you look at me in some weird way like I'm done like I will not come I will no I pretend I'm you and pretend you're the icky dude
01:19:22
Brian Atlasdud I let's let's do role play Here show me the the the the face I'm not I'm not not making the face I'm not making the face I can't was it like the rock eyebrow is like next it was like
01:19:34
Brian Atlasthat that I'm like w they get too confident with it they're like I'm like ooh so do you want a guy who's like looks like he's almost he's
01:19:45
Brian Atlasalmost like very aloof with it and he's totally he's actually not enjoying it all that's my goto is just the aloof I'm almost disgusted you know no I'm kidding I'm kidding I'm
01:19:56
Maddiekidding that's what you'd prefer no I just like you object to men being into it oh just like certain like certain facial expressions from certain people
01:20:09
Maddiewho I've never seen other than having sex with them like those facial expressions have never popped out before and then we have sex and you want to bring up a whole new face and I'm like and so you leave I'm like wait I got to
01:20:19
MaddieI got to go wait so you will you will literally stop I'm like babe like this is not working like I'm going to go finish in the other room you can take yourself out you know where the front
01:20:31
Cindy Zangdoor is you have your car and drive home oh no He's a brave and decent man he's a Pioneer um oh no she has good communication I I'm not lying anymore at
01:20:43
Naomi Lynnleast I'm not faking an orgasm anymore really good communication yeah and everyone has their X to be fair like that's your specific like ew yeah I agree it is Icky that's very it
01:20:55
Brian Atlassounds very icky I would I would have kicked those people out too yeah you gota go okay all right did did we go around the table on everyone's celibacy status did we yeah everybody the the
01:21:07
Brian Atlasthing I what's your Cy status how many bodies you got right now the thing I wanted to talk about when it came to you know everybody being single and everything uh it does occur to me and
01:21:18
Brian AtlasI'm not going to you know throw anyone under the bus here but since a lot of you are involved in content creation and I've heard this from women who are twitch streamers from for example but
01:21:29
Brian Atlascertainly it seems to be the case with women who are involved in O would it not and does it not hurt your bottom line if you were openly to communicate uh to your audience that you were in a
01:21:41
Brian Atlasrelationship um and we see this even with women who don't do adult adult content twitch streamers for example or content creators YouTubers uh if they post a photo with their boyfriend
01:21:51
Brian Atlasthey'll all their viewer ership will will drop uh and this is typically from their male uh viewer base so a lot of
01:21:59
Brian Atlasyou said you were single um but is it is it not the case that a lot of perhaps maybe not for you but you know some girls who do only fans who say they don't have boyfriends but actually do
01:22:11
Brian Atlasbecause it it hurts their bottom line yeah yeah yeah okay so is it like a 5050 for all of you that you're actually all currently involved with a man but if you if you were you wouldn't even admit it
01:22:24
Brian Atlason the show no I'm not lying I don't have any man in my life right now yeah either okay like I no reason to lie about that but you do acknowledge that it's extremely common for women who do only fans or who do any sort of content
01:22:35
Brian Atlascreation to to not share that they are in a relationship have a boyfriend it's nobody's real business anyway though yeah I agree but I also think when I was filming boy on Girl content it was when
01:22:47
MaddieI was in a relationship and I think my followers liked that more than me not having boy and girl content and since I've been out of that relationship more hardcore yeah and they get they get to ask customs and you know request what
01:22:59
Brian Atlasthey want out of the videos and whatever and well the thing is is that a lot of the girls on only fans are selling what is the girlfriend
01:23:08
Brian Atlasexperience so that fantasy disappears when it's quite clear that she's already involved with the man a lot of men love a lot of men love to see you getting by some other man like those men
01:23:22
Michael Knowlesare no that means it's true like I totally agree with what you're saying but doesn't that mean that all pornography if you're if you watch pornography you are engaging in an act of cuckoldry
01:23:32
Michael Knowlesright you are watching the woman of your desire uh being violated by some other guy it's not you you're just sitting in a corner in your pathetic little room you know with the blinds closed so it's it's very that's bit extreme I think
01:23:45
Cindy Zangit's accurate it's I don't see the in my logic Che it check out kind of like Games of Thrones I like the word though I've never heard
01:23:57
Brian Atlaswhat because of the midgets you mean yeah yeah I think well they watching actually little person is the that's the new ter little person see it's the euphemism treadmill it used to be dwarf
01:24:09
Brian Atlaswas the appropriate but now I think it's a little person is the preferred term soon to be a cute little fella and that'll just zoom speaking speaking of which I actually am open-minded to
01:24:20
Brian Atlasdating a little person so if you guys know any female actually know I actually know one I'm but not an only fans model wait what is the criteria like what I'm looking for oh it's a long list I we
01:24:33
Maddieshould save that for a little bit later for yeah wait what what did you say that's his thing he looksy are serious yeah we wouldn't work out then I
01:24:43
Naomi Lynngot a Ley wait you got a you got it oh you did how was that actually how actually yeah you can find out if you want you can show me
01:24:55
Brian Atlasoff not that way but I'm sure you I didn't mean like in that sense check please yeah but uh how did we get there why you we can go over what I'm looking for but
01:25:07
Brian Atlasdwarf you know dwarf hook me up with the door I'm down okay I'm going to put you on okay sounds good sounds good would you guys I can't I'm just I'm just riffing here off of dwarf com would you guys date you know women like tall men
01:25:20
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01:25:40
Brian Atlasthat was my dad uh agree thank you well that uh aren't you Chinese I'm part Japanese I found out oh you found yeah you took a 23 in me um I need to fix
01:25:51
Brian Atlasthat I'm sorry sorry guys P picco Steins thank you for the uh TTS man appreciate it uh did you guys all I I think you read it and you but you you agreed yeah so when the time's right agreed with
01:26:04
Michael Knowleswhat I don't want to marriage family right now the best thing ever I can attest it's amazing I even you know I like my job even though I'm not an only fan so it's a version of it's like political only fans where I just you know I create content for my political
01:26:16
Michael Knowlesfollowers a little bit less sexy but it's a I find it more sexy actually thank you very much but you know look I like it I like my job a lot and writing books and speaking and stuff but it it is nothing it is nothing compared to my
01:26:28
Michael Knowlesfamily like it you could burn all my books lose all the tapes of my politic nothing about the world would change at all but none of us have family like that not yet not yet but when you say well yeah I'm just but maybe not yet but in
01:26:39
Michael Knowlesthe future but that like I do want a family I want kids my is look you're not 12 years old or something you're all of age and you're and I just think like why put it off it's just awesome it's just objectively awesome it will improve your lives in every single way whatever
01:26:52
Michael Knowlesyou're doing now no matter how much you think you like it it's 100 times better at least so why why if it's so good and you even agree I don't think what I'm doing right now is stopping me from where I'm supposed to end up in the long run like I think you really not think
01:27:05
Michael Knowlesthat you don't think it's impeding you didn't I thought we all agre it kind of imped no I think where I'm supposed to be is where exactly where I'm going to be but you I thought I thought we all just previously agreed that it does impede sort of getting married I rehears
01:27:17
Michael Knowlesthat before I came yeah that sounds beautiful just like not right now well no but you seem to be agreeing with my point that doing only fans in porn it does sort of impede starting a family you seem to be dis I didn't really I
01:27:29
Naomi Lynndon't think but I think you actually agree with me too said I didn't say that what did you say I'm I thought I I'm sorry I thought you agreed with me no I said I want to have a family I think a family is a
01:27:41
Michael Knowlesbeautiful thing I want it I feel like we're all just playing pretend right now when when we say that being on only fans and doing poor and it doesn't slow down the process of finding the right guy and starting a family I thought we all I thought previously we
01:27:53
Sophieall agreed that you know no but how would you how would you describe I must be misremembering them how would you describe the right guy cuz maybe the right guy to you for these girls would be different than the right guy that was
01:28:04
Michael Knowlesthe point made that guys who watch porn are creepy cucks right we all you said that I think many of us agreed with that no I asked you if you had watched it and you said yeah and I said well then what goes into that you weren't creepy you
01:28:16
Michael Knowlesasked me have I dated other girls have I done all sorts of sins I say I've done all sorts of terrible things back in my wayward Youth and okay so you're saying to this day you don't sin you saying you don't no I commit sins but but I don't really commit those sins I commit other
01:28:29
Michael Knowlessins but I don't really commit the sins that maybe you know Mar everyone sins and everyone has their own sins and I think but a guy a guy who's addicted to porn is going to be a horrible husband and a horrible father that's not the guy
01:28:42
MaddieI'm going to end up with though right but but by doing pornography you are greatly narrowing the pool of men me doing pornography or me not doing pornography people are going to watch it either way I'm just profiting off it
01:28:54
Michael Knowleslike because I do it now but it doesn't me taking out of that equation people are not still but a guy who personally does not look at pornography and who thinks it's bad and you know not good I
01:29:05
Michael KnowlesI haven't met a guy who doesn't watch porn yet you met like one you know hi hello you have I I also don't like sleep with lots of you know people and go on dates and do all that's why all the other guys have watched it too you know
01:29:18
Michael Knowlesbut but you're saying you you've never met a guy who doesn't presently watch porn I'm saying in general has never watched porn oh has never watched oh no something like what 99% of men or something and 1% are lying yeah you
01:29:30
Maddiecan't live in our culture and not have seen pornography you go on Instagram porn pops up right you go on Tik Tok porn what the so why not profit off of it if people are posting their tits on Instagram why not people pay for it because it attracts men to you who are
01:29:43
Maddienot the kind of men you want to attract and because it I don't care I don't I don't want them I want their money like like I want at the end of want the other guys you just said you want the other guys to like you know start a family because
01:29:54
Brian Atlasit's so great but I'm saying doing the for to I'm not I'm not ready is your argument that there's a demand for it so why not fulfill that demand uh profit
01:30:04
Brian Atlasfrom it is that sort of the argument yeah well what can we apply that to drugs for example there's a demand for heroin there's a demand for fenyl you're not doing anything you're just they want but but to me I'm not I'm not putting
01:30:18
Maddiemyself in a position where I can die I'm not harming myself I'm not doing doing drugs just different I'm just my pockets are getting bigger my I'm financially able to be Freer I'm financially able to
01:30:30
Sophiepay for the people in my life and support them and myself and is there a cost to that sorry is there a cost to that you're getting all this money think I do think that there is a cause to that yes I just like the people that produce
01:30:42
Michael KnowlesFentanyl and stuff for hospitals they're not they're not um responsible for all the overdoses and stuff you don't think the guys producing and and running Fenton all especially like fenel over the border which is where a lot of the street drugs come from you don't think
01:30:55
Brian Atlasthey're morally responsible for the overdoses not the ones that are medically producing it people that are producing it over the border and shipping it here yeah like the Chinese who Shi wasn't like fizer I don't know the exact drug companies GSK I don't
01:31:06
Brian Atlasknow the exactly which ones were producing all the opioids but wasn't there a lawsuit that basically these Dr drug companies were perhaps under under selling or under representing the degree
01:31:18
Brian Atlasto which these were harmful and dangerous and addictive um so there was some culpability liability in that sense even when it's you know
01:31:29
Brian Atlasyou know through doctors prescribed you have the you know it's coming from a uh certified drug I I'm sorry I don't know what the term is but yeah maybe I'm not
01:31:39
Sophieeducated enough on the drug production to um speak that much onto it I'm just saying um with almost everything there's a way to abuse it and they're not
01:31:50
Michael Knowlesresponsible for men's abuse of at least at least opiates opiates have a medical use which is they can numb pain and so if you have a back injury you know you can take them and unfortunately people get addicted well you think pornography
01:32:03
Naomi Lynndoesn't have a good use I think it's it's a release isn't it not recognize I forget what it's called but the psychology uh oh sorry I thought he was answering
01:32:14
Naomi Lynnthat um isn't it not recognized as like porn is actually an addiction isn't gambling the only thing that's actually recognized as an addiction in that way I think I mean addictive behavior is behavior but it's not actually medically
01:32:26
Michael Knowleswhat does that even mean actually medically though like you know like you I don't think addiction is a real some doctor said it or something you know like uh first of all I think the medical community what what's so funny no go
01:32:39
Michael Knowlesahead I don't know like I remember there was a doctor a few years ago this guy Dr fouchy Who said like a bunch of things that were completely false and so I'm a little skeptical of the you know political medical professionals but but you say you know these sexual desires
01:32:51
Michael Knowlescan't become addictive but surely psychologists treat sex addiction they're rehab clinics for it and so the porn industry tries to pretend like there's a total difference between sex addiction and sex addiction with a
01:33:03
Naomi Lynncomputer but they're obviously they're they're very related I don't know I think somewhere I saw like brain scans and like it didn't light up the same way as like everything no it's different it's definitely more degenerate for a
01:33:14
Michael Knowlesman to look at pornography than to sleep with let's uh let's shift uh shift a little bit here science here damn uh so I real science is good but like political scence look the scientists say
01:33:26
Maddiea man can be a woman now it's ridiculous you know crazy ohing GE we want to go there yeah who of you has a sugar daddy sugar daddy no but if you want to
01:33:38
Brian Atlasbe my sugar daddy hit me up I've had my or pay pigs pay pigs any pay pigs what's a pay Pig a pay pig is a man who just
01:33:49
Brian Atlasabsolutely lacks any any character whatsoever and just Brian what fetish shaming King shaming Ser
01:34:00
Brian Atlasthat's messed up pay pigs essentially just send women money isn't that what they all do though for the pictures and
01:34:11
Maddiestuff reason it's typically there they don't anything in return really I mean they can I guess so they're just like the dumbest porn users in the entire world still get
01:34:22
Brian Atlasservice those are my favorite ones what is it so the fetish is just Financial domination Financial domination have you guys ever so have you guys ever had a pay pig or sugar daddy and or sugar
01:34:33
Cindy Zangdaddy Cindy I had one I don't know I had some random number text me saying they'll send me like a couple thousand I just I don't know wait you have a tweet on this I feel like we have we won't
01:34:45
Brian Atlaspull it up yet Nick we we're gonna we we got some tweets from you guys we're going to look at um I'm trying to or maybe it was somebody else here at the table I forgot but I did did tweet something about it what's
01:34:57
Cindy Zangthat I did tweet something about so some some guy paid you a th000 for what well someone someone said I want to send you money like they T they messaged me saying that no one ever messages me
01:35:09
Michael Knowlesthat ever bummer that's a big bummer I've never met a pay Pig I guess that's probably good you're looking in the wrong places I guess you got to quit what you're doing try something new if I want a pay Pig I have to go to very
01:35:20
Maddiedifferent places yeah okay that's cool what I have a cool story on one sure let's hear it so this one guy H up my friend one time was like last year we he
01:35:31
Maddiewanted our whole friend group to come over to his apartment and we went and when we showed up he wanted to dress up in high heels in a ballerina dress and
01:35:42
Maddietiptoe around his apartment and he opened up a drawer full of all these toys and whips and he wanted us to whip him like straight up whip him and he all he gave us thousands and thousands of dollars a
01:35:54
Maddieperson he's a kinky boy straight up crazy he just wanted to empty his pockets to us like that's all he wanted he was like I want you to literally like make me bleed until I give you all of our my money we didn't actually make him B physically bleed or you mean we
01:36:07
Maddieactually make him bleed for real but he was like whip me like it was weird excuse me it's true real life real life story like the humiliation King people I didn't hurt him for real
01:36:17
Maddieit was like a whip it was like a you know like but you buy from oh I mean you know he asked for it and I was getting paid I mean I wouldn't
01:36:26
Michael Knowleshave done it if he didn't tell me to wow crazy huh that that's crazy are any of these guys married or they're all single no yeah see a lot of them I think it's
01:36:37
Maddiereally sad I think they either have lost their wife which is really sad or they just have gone through a divorce or never ended up with anyone at all I believe the divorce one more than the
01:36:46
Michael Knowleswidower one no that I've experienced that more actually the widower mhm hm H that's very surprising to me like he had they had a good marriage and they
01:36:57
Michael Knowlesthey say you know all dotsi I miss dosy I love sitting on the porch with dosy you know what I'll do I'll call up a 19-year-old to come smack me around with a whip while I wear high heels that that'll bring back the memories of my
01:37:08
Maddiebeloved late I think people are just going a little mentally ill but like I was profitting you were at least you got good times good times uh what about you
01:37:19
Brian Atlashave you had a sugar DH pay Pig no actually no okay all right maybe it I'm notos seems like you're fishing for one what about you she said
01:37:30
NicolletI'm not nicholet I have had um sugar daddy don't currently so if you want to apply hit my DM for real no I have not come on Mia I
01:37:41
Maddiehave not Mia all right she's so sweet I believe thank you I think it's an act no I had a great sugar daddy he he was he was like a really cool guy like he was really cool he gave me a bunch of money
01:37:53
Sophietook me on trips my friends on trips flew us out it was your and your friends on trips how many how many trips did he take you on like five six five six he took to a
01:38:04
SophieTravis Scott concert I liked him she's she's my best friend how how old was the guy he's in his 40s in his 40s were were you
01:38:15
Maddieguys no we were not hooking up come on be honest no I'm dead ass so he spending tens of thousands I kissed him I kissed him but look yeah but when look in
01:38:25
MaddieAtlanta pretty priv pretty privilege is such a thing like if you're 40 mid 40s you don't have a woman in your life all you want to do is just be seen around town with a bad like they don't
01:38:36
Brian Atlasreally care like they really don't care and wait what's a what is a bad that's the kind of woman you want to be see around think bad is what do
01:38:45
Brian Atlasyou think about bad I too white to have an opinion on that so what I not what what no but like here no no no hold
01:38:54
Brian Atlason I'm not talking skin appropriate any I'm not talking skin color I'm talking I'm too white he's white I don't even know what that means to be honest I'm
01:39:04
Brian Atlasjust huh skin color no no no no no like he's saying he's a white supremacist I'm not say not saying that I'm just saying
01:39:13
Michael KnowlesI listen to like jazz and Pearl Jam I don't bad that jazz famously white musical genre yeah yes
01:39:25
Maddiesuper Alena's a little more ratchet and ghetto than that like yeah it's not like here just like I don't I would I don't refer like my girlfriend she she's an attractive woman I don't I
01:39:37
Maddiewouldn't she I wouldn't call her a bad okay if a girl okay look I know you're saying call her not it's not any disrespectful like if I'm at the club and I walk in and I see a section full of baddies I'm like
01:39:49
Maddieoh those are some bad like those are are goodies what are there goodies baddies the baddies like there's baddies and then are there
01:39:59
Maddiegoodies no bad meaning like just like you're sexy like you're fine like not bad like good or bad like you're bad as and you're fine like you're attractive like you makes sense I'm not saying I
01:40:12
Cindy Zangwas too white for this I mean I'm too I get what you're saying I also feel like like P up and say you're a bad can I get your number no that's not attractive
01:40:22
Michael Knowlesthat's girl on girl I'm like oh you're a bad wait so anyways I to I apologize I do AG I got why would why would one hire
01:40:32
Michael Knowlesa a baddy to be seen around town like what if you're going to hire a baddy it seems you said you got money from the guy I did yeah so you know you're you're
01:40:43
Michael Knowlesnot um dating him you're not probably right like but what I'm saying is I could I can understand why someone would hire a Badd to like come over to his house for you know like 5 minutes or whatever but I I don't understand why a
01:40:55
Maddieguy would pay a baddie T thousand think they're lonely like I genuinely from sitting and talking to so many of these guys and like before I did only fans I would I was on websites where I would just go out with men like a few times a week to go on paid dates they'd take me
01:41:08
Michael Knowlesout to dinner and pay me a few hundred a day and that's literally what I did before I did only fans and many such cases when many that is that what an escort is where you actually escort a man to an event and it's not like a it's
01:41:20
Maddienot like poker thing I don't know but there's different like level was it seeking was it seeking how would you find can I put can am I allowed to say the website can I put everyone on real quick what's your price what's your
01:41:32
Maddieprice what's your Price's your PR everyone needs to go on what's your price that's what it's called that's not the kind of name where I would think I should go on this website right you know what's your price you're saying cuz
01:41:44
Maddieyou're married well cuz I'm Mar but I think even if I work if you're looking for money and you're broke go out set for dinner get paid to go on a dinner day and eat some sushi and leave like why would you not do that to find your
01:41:54
Michael Knowlespig I'm never looking for money like seriously wait so okay uh is this interesting for y'all it is because I guess the thing about it is
01:42:06
Maddieyou know you're not engaging in any particular you know immoral act I guess but I tell them from the start I'm not a prostitute you can't pay me to have sex with you but if you want me to give you my time and energy and sit and listen to
01:42:16
Michael Knowlesyou sure what's the name of the website again hold on let me write nice okay but is it you are still kind of commoditizing yourself right you're becoming like a kind of like a play thing for this guy even if it's not
01:42:28
Maddiesexual um to me that's fine like like straight up if I'm getting paid to hang out with you that's the easiest I could be doing right now like I'm not could it be better to
01:42:39
Maddiego on a real date wouldn't it um I've been on Plenty of real dates you get paid for those two no a real go I've had relationships that's gone somewhere but I like this very particular moment in my
01:42:52
Maddielife I'm more focused on making money building my own brand building my own Empire than on what other 20 young guys in their 20s are doing right now you want to build an Empire alone though what what fun is an Empire alone it it's
01:43:05
Michael Knowlesnot you're right but I haven't I'm not with the person that like I don't know who I'll end up with like yeah no I have friends forget about like only fans or whatever I have friends who say you know I say hey man you know you dating anyone
01:43:16
Michael Knowlesright now I say no I'm really just grinding I'm focused on work and I hear this espe the Millennials and the Zoomers I'm working man I'm I'm grinding I'm hustling and then someday in the unforeseen future then when I've finally
01:43:29
Michael Knowlesground enough that I've got my Empire and blah BL blah blah the right guy came around but I think it's totally backwards if the right guy came around I would be with him did you swim in high school did I I I was played soccer in
01:43:40
Brian Atlascollege you muscles you look kind of Jack I so College Jack good shoulders solid shoulders do you work your shoulders in soccer isn't that like a l you work your
01:43:51
Brian Atlaswhole body in soccer that's that's real okay I looked I looked up this website it's uh it's ridiculous you looked it up I yeah I pulled it up on my computer literally you can send people requests
01:44:03
Brian Atlasfor how much money you want and then they so what's like a typical like how many requests have you received total ever total from the website how many for so long hundred hundreds thousands
01:44:13
Brian Atlasthousands what's the typical so they they are offering you money for what like just to to meet up yeah to go out for dinner I literally what's like the average offering um the typal offering I
01:44:25
Brian Atlasdon't go for any less than like 3 or 400 to just go sit at dinner like I'm like okay that's and is there does it say like for one out like is there time requested or like so the guys have to pay to chat with you on this so that's
01:44:37
Maddiehow you know it's like a real deal they're not just around yeah they pay to chat with you do you know what the cost is just because the girls don't have to do that okay but um you can send a request to them you have a
01:44:49
Maddieprofile my real name's not on the Prof um they see my pictures they can request me and send me an offer if I don't like the offer I can counter request the offer and send them how much I would actually want you haggle over I have a
01:45:01
Brian Atlasquestion that's not enough I have a question for you though like of H how many uh how many men have you talked to on the app where because you says it cost them money right hundreds hundreds
01:45:13
Maddiehow many have you met up with and I'm it sounds like you've not hooked up with them right no I've hung out with a bunch of tricks in Atlanta though like everywhere they're called tricks yeah
01:45:23
Brian Atlaslike marks I've heard marks marks tricks no it's like the term there it's surely these men tricks you call you refer to them as tricks I don't say that to their face but they are tricks yeah these guys
01:45:35
Maddiewant more than dinner correct for sure but I'm not giving it to them I just string them along enough no I just string them along until they're done and they're like okay well I don't want to do this anymore cuz you're not giving me what I want and then they leave and I
01:45:47
Brian Atlasmove on to the next one do the same thing how many total individual men have you you met up with through this website in person for paid
01:45:55
Michael Knowlesdates a lot more than I can count like a guesstimate yeah over 100 yeah more than more than 200 probably like 100 between 100 and 200 yeah okay what was the last time you paid for dinner that's an
01:46:07
Maddieamazing that's like a almost a Year's worth of dinner I mean I haven't gone out on dates in like that in a long time like I I yeah for Real come out when since I started only fans I didn't do that but before only fans that was
01:46:19
Brian Atlasthat was the wait so you make just to be clear so you will make what 500 for a dinner yeah 500 times 100 or 50 500 time say maybe not
01:46:30
Brian Atlas50000 50,000 wait is that is my math right here hold on she saying 300 now yeah say 300 okay so $30,000 yeah just for going out to dinner's niume that's that's iume right
01:46:43
Brian Atlasbefore I pulled in one of my tricks sent me $5,000 five whoa 5,000 um wait and I'm not done doing a full accounting here
01:46:54
Michael KnowlesI'm actually an IRS agent um what what is that tax stat you know like capital gains or regular do they give you cash um the one just now is Apple pay okay
01:47:05
Brian Atlasyou should probably you might want to talk to CPA about that one um a bad audit to get um wait so okay hold on so and there's some men you I assume you only go on one date but then there's
01:47:17
Maddiesome men that you'll continue I make it known from the start what I will and will not do like I'm okay here to really yes you'll tell so you'll outright tell them yes by the way like you'll sit
01:47:29
Brian Atlasthere across from them by the way I'm just here for your money I'll ever here just for your money I don't I don't say it I don't want to ever have you disgust me I don't want to have sexual
01:47:40
Brian Atlasintercourse with you ever but please continue giving me your money you pathetic is that kind look if it was coming from me like saying it like to to you and like I I word it differently and
01:47:53
Maddieit comes across differently and it doesn't seem like that right but that's like sub they know why they're there straight up they know why they're there they know why they there because they want to be seen with a bad oh they're not trying by whom by who
01:48:06
Maddieeveryone around them all their friends tricks all their friends are tricks tricks you know what I'm saying like so if they're all in on the trick why is it still to get on this sorry what
01:48:17
Michael Knowleswhat say if there're if all the friends are also tricks then they're all engaging in the same game but then they all know that it's all fake yeah they know it's fake so they're not impressing anyone they all know it's fake right so there's no one to impress to be seen
01:48:30
Maddiethey're impressing each other with which one which person's sugar baby's hotter and who's giving more money like seriously my one of my tricks let me drive his Bentley around town for months one of my tricks let me drive his Bentley around Atlanta for months like
01:48:42
Michael Knowlesthey they wa I want the scope of this here let's get a little more DET have Bentley's in Atlanta I'm actually shocked was his 10 car I asked I figur like maybe a nice Lexus would be which
01:48:53
Maddieone is it oh by the way it's not on the App Store you have to go on okay oh it's on Google okay wait and then you can add it and then you can add it as an app afterwards here Cindy can you just get
01:49:05
Brian Atlasoff the phone okay wait let's get a little scope scale here so um do you do one or more of your uh tricks or whatever your your uh I don't know what
01:49:15
Brian Atlasthe they're tricks tricks do they do any of them pay for your rent they have yeah now here's a question for you will you do you have multiple at the same time
01:49:25
Brian Atlaslike how many currently are you like finessing seriously for real I like seriously for
01:49:33
Maddiereal let's get into it no cap No Cap bet no route cap so as of lately
01:49:42
Maddielike the past couple months it's just been one guy but normally because yeah but now he's going broke so now now it's
01:49:54
Brian Atlasyouing I am literally why I am literally why he's going broke he is she took all his money yeah I did wait how much question for this guy in particular do
01:50:04
TTS/Donationsyou have a sense the Internal Revenue Service donated $200 we will be looking into Maddie in the coming
01:50:13
Cindy Zangweeks okay Internal Revenue there you have 20,000 new agents this current guy yeah exactly it's
01:50:23
Brian Atlasterrible um this new guy how much total or well this s guy the the current guy how much total has he paid you if you had to
01:50:38
Brian Atlasestimate probably 100K 100K over what period of time 6 months what's in his face straight up in one payment
01:50:50
Maddiewhat's the biggest individual P like has he sent you 10K what's the biggest P 10K and he sent you he sent you over 100k I he hasn't sent it to me I'm saying not that money 100K hasn't been sent to my
01:51:03
Maddiebank account 100K has probably been spent on meal spent on me on including the trips including you know whatever else yeah but also cash like he got me
01:51:13
Brian Atlasmy purse over there cute what kind of purse is it Fenty yeah oh Fenty wow you might want to check make sure it's not a knockoff but that's true that's how they you can check and make sure for me I
01:51:24
Brian Atlasdon't think it is cuz I'm an expert in okay you can check that do you buy knockoffs do you buy on T don't what is the what's the I guess the fetish is
01:51:35
Michael Knowlesjust a kind of masochism no yeah literally it is but it's like the worst kind you know if you smack the guy with the whip then he it has a bruise but if you drain the guy's bank account then he's broke that's crazy that's that's a
01:51:47
Michael Knowlesfeathers for that's lit yeah it literally is isn't that a good argument against like hey man if you want to do it just do it cuz like some people want things that
01:51:57
Brian Atlaswill literally bankrupt them and that will ruin their lives yeah well sorry oh just a few more questions of the the scale of this so is you said he this one
01:52:09
Brian Atlasguy he's paid you over 100,000 is he your biggest whale do you have other whales I thought they were tricks all of a sudden you know the terminology whales are like in the
01:52:20
MaddieCasino like the guys who spend is he are you asking me if he's the one who spent the most amount of money on me so far well do you have other whales or have you had other whales I have at the moment no and is is he the one who spent
01:52:32
Maddiethe most on you yes okay so you've had but have you had other guys spend over a 100,000 on you no just him okay if you had to I've had other guys fly me out pay for me and my girls to go on trips
01:52:44
Brian Atlassend me money but not like that I'm 19 19 um so when did it start when did it started when I was 18 okay wait so crazy that's such a short period of time yeah for real my
01:52:55
Brian Atlaslife changed a lot in the last year word wait so and you said you've gone on hundreds of these dates with men some of them very short maybe one off and then some of them there was some everywhere in Atlanta like they're everywhere you
01:53:07
Maddiecan just be hanging out and it's a trick next if you had to estimate seriously he's like here my money here's my wallet go have fun go shop seriously wait so
01:53:18
Brian Atlastotal of if you add up all the men all the money they've given you total how much do you think 200 300,000 more more
01:53:26
Brian Atlasyeah 500,000 no a few hundred th000 should we say 300,000 safe number you can say that if you want I don't really know you I don't know you should get a bookkeeper probably yeah never been
01:53:39
TTS/Donationsone to really keep track but but you're you're 19 yeah uh you've through this website you've been able to Bobby
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TTS/Donations$200 Bob Michael how can you explain to these girls that selling themselves for money will negatively impact their chances of having what they want beyond
01:53:59
Michael Knowlesthis money BS drop some Divine Truth for them that's a big uh request but I guess it sort of gets to what we were talking about earlier you know about impeding uh your potential to get married but even
01:54:11
Michael Knowleswith the money thing let's say put the men aside for a second you want to have careers for whatever reason uh right that you're spending a lot of time and effort on this right it's it's real work