CONFRONTING Viral Gym E-girl! 50 Body Count At 21?! Makeup DEBATE! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #139
Date: 2024-02-28
Duration: 7h 18m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Maddie Ru(guest)
SPEAKER_03Misra/Kendall/Kyla(guest)
SPEAKER_04Gym man (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_05Maddie gym (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_07Joey Swole (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Kayla(guest)
SPEAKER_11Q (Jquan)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Music/Clips(audience)
SPEAKER_13Jordan(guest)
SPEAKER_14Megan Robinson(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:11
IntroBrian Atlas opens show; introduces himself and co-host Kiki.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas I'm joined by my co-host Kiki back there she's a bit shy”
00:03:30
IntroMaddie Ru introduces herself: 21, OnlyFans creator, Orange County CA. Viral gym e-girl.
“hi I'm Maddie Ru I'm 21 I do only fans... California... Orange County”
00:04:14
IntroMisra introduces: 21, former OnlyFans, originally Izmir Turkey, currently Riverside CA.
“misra um 21 and I did only fans um I'm in between right now... originally turkey but right now Riverside... ismir”
00:04:58
IntroMegan Robinson introduces: 22, mindset coaching business, podcast 'Lessons in Self-Love', Washington DC.
“my name is Megan Robinson I have a mindset coaching business and I have a podcast called lessons in selflove I'm 22 years old and I'm from Washington DC”
00:05:42
IntroKayla introduces: 30, Las Vegas, stripper/author/starting real estate.
“my name is Kayla um I'm 30 I live in Las Vegas um I'm a stripper an author and I'm also starting real estate”
00:06:02
IntroJordan introduces: 25, married, owns private gym in Riverside with husband, personal trainer.
“hi thank you for having me my name is Jordan I'm 25 my husband and I own a private gym in Riverside we also do personal training online coaching entrepreneur I'm a wife and a dog mom”
00:06:25
IntroQ (Jquan) introduces: 31, behavioral scientist, certified relationship coach, YouTuber, author.
“Q uh the Q behavioral scientist certified relationship coach YouTuber entrepreneur author age 31 government name jquan”
00:28:00
Key MomentBrian confirms viral gym video was scheduled before it went viral — Maddie was invited back 2-3 weeks prior to the viral incident.
“she's been on before and I actually reached out to you to invite you back before the whole viral thing like we had scheduled you to be on today's show like two weeks ago”
00:29:52
Key MomentMaddie asks whether adding bounce to the squat was deliberate — admits she added it because it looked sexual when filmed. Posted with caption 'wondering when I'm going to be recognized from my leg day warmup'.
“I realized that it looked kind of sexual and so I started adding like a bounce to it... I started filming it for reels... I always put that clip with a caption that says wondering when I'm going to be recognized from my leg day warmup”
00:50:11
Key MomentQ argues Maddie was eliciting a sexual response deliberately and played innocent with 'I can't believe I'm not allowed to stretch' caption.
“it's the Innocence it's the position of Innocence that you took... you've already stated that that's what you were trying to do overtly... that's what you were doing”
01:35:00
QuoteMisra reveals Turkish ex cheated on her 33-36 times; she moved to Turkey for him.
“he cheated on me like I think 36 times... I moved to Turkey for him though that's why”
01:36:00
Key MomentMisra reveals sex addiction: approximately 30 partners in one year during first year of college (age 19), after Turkish ex cheated on her ~36 times. Therapist diagnosed sex addiction.
“I would say like probably 30... I would say one year... I went to therapy cuz my friends actually made me cuz I was actually having like a really bad problem and then he was like I think you have a sex addiction”
02:07:00
Key MomentBrian's core argument: women who make a new man wait while having slept with others quickly are presenting a false standard. The McDonald's $1000 cheeseburger analogy.
“everyone in the restaurant paid $1 for a cheeseburger... I get to the front of the line ask for a cheeseburger and the clerk looks at me and says it's $1,000 for you sir”
02:18:00
Key MomentQ reads his viral list of concerns about women with high body counts: oxytocin depletion, pair bonding damage, hidden STIs, divorce correlation, paternity uncertainty.
“i'd be concerned about the long-term benefits of dealing with promiscuous women I'd be concerned about your oxytocin receptors densified to the point where you can't effectively parabond... increased risk of divorce... paternity uncertainty which means a promiscuous woman is more likely to cuck you”
04:00:00
Key MomentJordan removes makeup on camera during makeup debate to test Brian's claim that women look better without it.
“I'm going to take it off and then you're going to like lower my rating just to be rude... I'm not... take my word for it”
04:03:00
QuoteBrian rates Jordan after she removes makeup: says she looks attractive with or without makeup.
“I tend to think women are look as good or sometimes better without makeup uh I think you're an attractive women woman with or without makeup”
05:09:40
Key MomentGirls rate Puffy Vegas (regular donor) on his Instagram photos. Ratings: Maddie: 2, Misra: 3, one guest: 1.5, another: 0. Brian objects to 0.
“rate him on a scale of 1 to 10... two... three... 1.5... a zero... what the f... zero would be like significant facial asymmetry like deformity”
06:08:20
Key MomentBrian proposes 'legal paternal surrender' — if abortion is legal, men should be able to legally wave parental rights and child support obligation within a time window.
“I think men should have a corresponding right called Legal paternal surrender... if the woman gets pregnant and he can make some sort of legal election to not be financially responsible he can wave his parental rights”
06:37:00
Key MomentMaddie reveals she reported her ex to the government for disability fraud (he was faking a disability to avoid getting a job while she considered buying him a car and paying for therapy).
“I've reported my ex for disability fraud and sent in videos of us to the government... he was lying to me about having a job he was faking disability”
06:37:50
ControversyKayla admits to slashing tires, throwing bricks at cars, putting sugar in gas tanks, and hitting partners (all directed at cheating men). She is bipolar.
“I have sliced tires I have thrown bricks and cars I put sugars in tank... I've hit... I'm bipolar... and I've done that in more than one person”
Topics Discussed
00:00:11
Show intro and guest introductions
Brian Atlas opens from Santa Barbara. Introduces co-host Kiki. Guests introduce: Maddie Ru (21, OnlyFans, OC CA), Misra (21, Turkey/Riverside, former OF), Megan Robinson (22, DC, mindset coach), Kendall (19, SBCC, San Diego), Kayla (30, Las Vegas, stripper/author), Kyla (18, SBCC, Santa Barbara), Jordan (25, Riverside, gym owner, married), Q/Jquan (31, behavioral scientist/coach).
00:10:00
Relationship status round
Brian goes around table: Maddie single ~1 week (celibacy claim); Misra in new relationship 1 week (Turkish BF moved from Turkey); Megan in relationship 10 months, premarital counseling (no sex until marriage); Kendall in relationship 1 month (frat boy); Kayla single ~2 years (one child, ex trying to return); Kyla unknown; Jordan married 6 months (together 6 years); Q single.
00:18:20
Maddie Ru gym viral video discussion
Brian and panel discuss Maddie's viral plie squat video at LA Fitness (~300M views). The video: man approached, kicked her phone, she posted captioned 'I can't believe I'm not allowed to stretch at the gym'. Discussion of whether it was staged, whether exercise is legitimate, whether it was sexually provocative. Joey Swole reaction video played — he says both were wrong: man shouldn't touch property, but woman was deliberately sexual. Brian notes Maddie's pattern of sexual gym captions pre-dating the viral incident. Q argues she was eliciting sexual responses for attention/money.
00:56:00
Makeup debate: deception or enhancement
Discussion of whether makeup is deceptive. Q argues it can constitute legal action (joking). Jordan removes makeup on camera. Brian says he thinks women often look as good or better without makeup; compliments Jordan. Maddie also takes off most of her makeup on camera — Brian says there's still some remaining. Discussion: women do makeup for other women as much as for men; beauty industry is 90% women; men find hard-to-achieve body standards (require gym/steroids) more demanding than female beauty standard (which just requires low body fat).
01:11:40
Beauty standards: men vs women body expectations
Brian argues male beauty standard (superhero physique: Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Henry Cavill) is harder to achieve than female beauty standard (Scarlett Johansson, Gal Gadot). Men need elite genetics + years in gym +/- steroids. Women can achieve aspirational body through diet alone. Jordan (trainer) partially disagrees: women must maintain through workout too; hormonal changes make it harder over time. Maddie raises that birth control makes women more attracted to feminine men. Photos of thin men vs thin women shown; panel debates.
01:22:00
Height and physical appearance preferences
Brian asks everyone's height and minimum male height requirements. Heights: Maddie 5'10", Megan 5'9", Misra 5'5" (min 5'10"), Kendall 5'3" (as long as taller), Jordan 5'4" (min 5'9"-ish, husband is 5'9.5"), Kyla 5'2 3/4" (min 5'9"). Current/past boyfriend heights listed. Discussion of dating app height filters.
01:30:00
Waiting for sex and body count discussion
Extended discussion: Brian asks whether women who had quick sex with previous partners then make a new guy they like wait is fair. Misra shares she would make a guy wait to avoid losing feelings (as happened during sex addiction period). Brian presents multiple analogies comparing the dynamic (McDonald's $1000 burger; prior dates got 5-star meals but new girl gets McDonald's; etc.). Q reads his viral list of concerns about high body count women: oxytocin depletion, pair bonding damage, hidden STIs, divorce correlation, paternity uncertainty. Panel mostly disagrees with Brian's framing but agrees it's understandable from male perspective. Jordan defends Misra: it's about her healing, not being fair to the guy.
01:34:00
Misra's sex addiction and depression story
Misra reveals that during first year of college (age 19), after her Turkish ex cheated on her ~36 times, she had sex with approximately 30 men (some repeats) in one year. Therapist diagnosed sex addiction at around 10-15 partners. Friends dragged her out to parties; she would drink and hook up; sex provided dopamine relief from depression. Fastest hookup: within first hour of meeting. She was being diagnosed while processing the abandonment/cheating trauma. Panel debates whether 'sex addiction' label is correct vs depression/low self-worth. She now uses sex to cope when very depressed but differently. Current boyfriend knows her history and is supportive.
05:09:40
Ratings: girls rate Puffy Vegas (regular donor)
Puffy Vegas (a regular TTS donor) requests to be rated by the panel based on his Instagram photos. Brian scrolls his Instagram. Ratings: Maddie: 2; Misra: 3; Kyla: 1.5; another panel member: 0. Brian objects to a 0 rating, says 0 would require significant facial deformity.
05:31:10
Q's story: obsessive long-distance hookup
Q tells story of woman he was casually seeing long-distance (Long Island to Philadelphia). She took a bus to see him. After he posted a Spanish lyric about liking Spanish-speaking girls, she called him 54 times consecutively. He answered on the 55th call. She was on a megabus at 2am coming to Philadelphia. They had sex and she left. He never spoke to her again.
06:08:20
Abortion and bodily autonomy debate
Brian argues forced military conscription is a greater bodily autonomy infringement than denying abortion access. Maddie disagrees, says they're similar. Jordan is pro-life: if not ready for motherhood, not ready for sex; adoption is an option. Brian proposes 'legal paternal surrender' as policy that could be bundled with abortion rights. Kayla: had abortion (got pregnant on birth control with abusive partner). Jordan: abortion has lasting mental health impact. Debate on when life begins.
06:15:00
Women's self-assessed dating flaws
Q asks panel what flaws they bring to relationships. Maddie: OnlyFans, sex tapes with other men, social media presence. Misra: moody/hangry, ignores people when mad. Kayla: violent reactions to cheating (slashed tires, bricks in cars, sugar in gas tanks, physical fights) — bipolar. Megan: emotional volatility (working on it). Jordan: needs partner validation on appearance, can have an attitude (improved significantly). Misra reveals revenge story: reported Turkish ex to immigration/his US sponsor after finding out about cheating; filmed it.
06:16:20
Kayla violent behavior story and bipolar discussion
Q asks panel about behavioral flaws. Kayla admits to: slashing tires, throwing bricks at cars, putting sugar in gas tanks, hitting partners. All directed at men who cheated on her. She is bipolar. Panel reacts with shock and humor. Brian says she reminds him of an ex.
06:30:00
What women expect from men they date
Q asks women to list their expectations from partners. Maddie: honesty, transparency, passion/drive, respect. Discussion of whether passion for niche topics (World of Warcraft) counts. Brian goes on extended World of Warcraft tangent (world buff meta for classic WoW).
07:13:20
Wrap-up
Brian wraps the show. Plugs Twitch, Clips Channel, Discord. Show ends.
Transcript
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04:39:03
Brian Atlasquick judgment about someone physical appearance why is it the case that you guys are only swiping yes on like 1% of dudes whereas dudes are swiping on like
04:39:14
Brian Atlasa lot of like what 50% of women cuz men are more desperate I feel like yeah so women are much pickier when it comes to physical appearance no they're not as
04:39:24
Q (Jquan)desper go airG go women care more about looks than men do yeah when it comes to when it comes to dating apps things like speed dating you will find that women
04:39:34
Q (Jquan)place a premium on a man's physical appearance that's what all the Studies have shown and it makes sense because you have nothing to judge other than his physical appearance so if you initially see that he's not physically attractive
04:39:46
Q (Jquan)you're going to disqualify him so that's what we see the guys who are typically attractive they get the most swipes they get the most matches whereas the guys who's not typically attractive they tend to be the most most of the men they
04:39:59
Brian Atlasdon't get matches at all they don't get swipes at all so his point is valid in that regard also this is a really Niche example I'm about to give but I would argue men who are physically disabled
04:40:10
Maddie Rucompared to women who are physically disabled men are going to struggle way more in dating if they're physically disabled than women you know what's interesting is that there's a study done
04:40:21
Maddie Ruand if a woman in a marriage gets ter or not terminally ill but severely ill they are six time more likely to be left by their male partner than if the male was to get sick well the issue with that
04:40:34
Brian Atlasstudy is probably I don't think it's been replicated so you have a huge issue with a lot of these soft science studies
04:40:43
Brian Atlascalled the I forgot the exact term they they can't replicate any of these studies okay it's still a stud and also
04:40:52
Brian Atlasand also I would add ask you who is doing these studies I is like a lot of these studies are done by
04:41:01
Brian Atlaslike feminists feminists who who already have decided what the end result is and they're going to try to confirm their
04:41:10
Brian Atlasbias and they they're if you go into a study for example cigarette companies in I think the 60s right hired scientists to to to study the harmful effects of
04:41:22
Brian Atlascigarettes and they came out with studies that said well cigarettes are actually not harmful in fact they can be you know they can have some uh positive Health
04:41:33
Maddie Ruimpacts okay so if who you got to ask yourself who's funding these studies yeah well who's funding yours I don't have a computer with not in front of me I haven't cited any studies let me bring a computer with some notes let's go
04:41:45
Q (Jquan)typically you know how valid they are about how controversial the results are going to be um like a lot of these are bought bought they're political so like what Brian said there is a a replication
04:41:57
Q (Jquan)a lot of these studies don't replicate I I won't call it a crisis because I work in the field of psychology so I won't call it a crisis but there are studies when we talk about attraction and things like women valuing looks those are some of the most replicated studies like
04:42:10
Q (Jquan)evolutionary psychology Etc they replicate all the time but when you talk about like what did you just say um men were more likely to leave their sick wives than their Six Sick partner were to leave them see I've never heard of
04:42:22
Maddie Ruthat study that's not to say it's invalid or unreliable but I've just never heard it I would like to review it I would like to actually see that I mean I reread it yesterday but I knew about it probably two years ago cuz my sister
04:42:34
Maddie RuI talk about this kind of stuff all the time and she also majored in Psych criminology all that so but let me well
04:42:43
Q (Jquan)this but you agreed though that um that men do Value Beauty more than women do yeah because how we draw inferences about a woman's fertility the argument
04:42:53
Jordanis is that like um I guess for an initial date yeah maybe women are a little bit more judgmental but in terms of longterm like
04:43:03
Jordanif you get with the woman and she's like really beautiful but then like she just she just totally goes downhill mhm then maybe you
04:43:14
Q (Jquan)wouldn't want to stay with her versus or just versus a woman who's with a guy and if he if he get cheat yeah I'm I'm I'm speaking objectively though yeah what I'm saying like if she declines if she declines in appearance then the guy he'd
04:43:27
Jordanprobably stay with her but he probably step outside of a relationship but typically you would say like men have more stressful jobs right so like men age faster yeah so but a woman isn't
04:43:36
Q (Jquan)going to leave a man for that not if he has money status resources right so you but you you agree though that there is that differ I didn't I didn't I didn't
04:43:46
Q (Jquan)disagree but um the the distinction I drew was that I would say men uh women value physical appearance as much as men but men are more visually receptive and sexually stimulated by a woman's
04:43:58
Q (Jquan)physical appearance than women are with men that's that's that's how I would say it okay last thing on this
04:44:09
Brian Atlasso I would also argue in terms of a parents depictions of aspirational body
04:44:15
Brian Atlastypes for men are far harder to achieve and attain than what you see of women no okay but like so let let me what are you
04:44:26
Brian Atlasgoing off of so she said no but so let me let me try to give a bit more details because I it's so if you look at for example super superhero movies so if you
04:44:35
Brian Atlaslook at the men in superhero movies the aspirational body type in order to achieve as a man the aspirational body type the Apex the optimum body type
04:44:49
Brian Atlasthat's going to require either I mean Elite level genetics treating the gym like a full-time part-time job excuse me uh or
04:44:59
Brian Atlassteroid use whereas women I would argue an any any 18-year-old woman so long as she monitors her caloric
04:45:09
Brian Atlasintake without even having to do any sort of physical training can achieve a near idealistic
04:45:18
Brian Atlasuh aspirational body type a woman need not do strength training for example to
04:45:26
Brian Atlashave what 99% of men will deem like a sexy or a hot body but for a man to have
04:45:34
Brian Atlasaspirational body to have a hot or sexy body he will need to have some degree or perhaps a huge degree of uh physical
04:45:46
Maddie Rutraining to achieve that not just caloric uh restriction I would say that your ideal body type that you're talking about in the superhero movies and all of that is
04:45:57
Maddie Rulike ideal to Men by other men but if you okay most women are on like some kind of hormonal birth control and if you look birth control makes women more attracted
04:46:08
Brian Atlasto more feminine features and like okay let's let's remove poison from the conversation and let's talk about I'm being I'm exaggerating but you're you're
04:46:19
Brian Atlasmaking the argument that it's it's changing women to be more attracted to feminine features in men it is it has that's not the natural order of things though it's not the natural order that's reality but that's a reality right now
04:46:31
Maddie Ruof what women are more attracted to it's that like Pete Davidson that scari like drugged out you know what I mean like people this is the fall of Western civilization and I failed I
04:46:44
Jordandon't think women and more women on average prefer men that are like taking like a heavy dosage of PEDs performance enhancing drugs and honestly I think everybody should
04:46:56
Jordanstength and train I don't think women should just watch their calories but I do get your point um because for a man because you're naturally going to have more testosterone you're gonna be able
04:47:06
Jordanto put on a lot more muscle mass and a lot quicker if you train in the gym and honestly if you're a guy you're not going to the gym you need to go to the gym um and that goes for a women as well
04:47:18
Jordanbut honestly I don't think like personally if you just work out and you take care of your body that's very achievable for for most people and I
04:47:29
Brian Atlasdon't think women are attracted to like super yolked like not attracted saying that but I would argue like like I'm not saying like fullon bodybuilder status
04:47:39
Brian Atlasbut I would argue like an un if you compare an untrained man to a guy who has just an athletic build so think like you know he's got definition and he's
04:47:51
Brian Atlascut whatever not full-on bodybuilder I would argue most women are going to be more attracted to the athletic build
04:48:00
Brian Atlasversus like most women would probably actually put the guy who's just skinny they're not going to put that in like the attractive category from a body
04:48:10
Brian Atlasperspective whereas a woman can be just have a low body fat percentage and be deemed physically attractive like pretty much across the board whereas a guy
04:48:21
Jordanwho's done no physical training and he's just he's just has a low body fat percentage probably not yeah that's not attractive don't be skinny um okay thank
04:48:32
Jordanyou making my point MH no but but I'm just saying but even then if you think about it this way like men typically have more physical jobs so sometimes you know you can build a little bit of
04:48:42
Jordanmuscle from your job um but honestly I don't think it's ridiculously hard to get in shape I think it's just consistency and I think that goes for both men and women and for for a woman
04:48:54
Brian Atlasto like have a body that a lot of men will view as sexy she need not never participate in a sport she need not never even exercise she need not
04:49:05
Brian Atlasever even step foot in a gym where I was where I would argue for women to find a particular male body type like hot or sexy or
04:49:18
Brian Atlasattractive yeah to put him more work he's gonna have to put in more work than a woman so because I'm bringing this up because there's this whole Trope about women have the have to meet these like
04:49:29
Brian Atlasunrealistic Beauty standard but the beauty standard for a man is is like Leaps and Bounds like orders of magnitude more difficult to achieve for
04:49:39
Brian Atlasthe average guy than the reverse like an 18-year-old woman can fairly easily have the ideal female body type but an 18-year-old male probably has not or
04:49:51
Brian Atlascannot achieve his physique potential it could take but also women give birth and go through a lot of bodily CH and we it is relevant though no but it is relevant
04:50:01
Jordanthough erroneous erroneous okay go ahead go ahead okay and also we have menopause right you think a woman who just watches her calories can stay the same size forever no because she would continue to
04:50:13
Jordanhave to eat lower calories because you know another reason why we go to the gym as well is because it increases your metabolism so you can eat more food and
04:50:23
Megan Robinsonyou can eat more calories the metabolism changes is the case for both genders I think also like the hormone cycle too like every week of the month
04:50:34
Megan Robinsonwe're different We crave different things so it's not steady like a man is has his testosterone Spike once and then that's it very normal midj donated
04:50:44
TTS/Donations$100 it's always funny watching two men are try to help women understand more reasonable standards that will help women find better men SL relationship
04:50:54
Jordanand women argue it women are their own Worse Enemy H you know yeah but my point is is that every working out will
04:51:02
Jordanbenefit both genders women and men and I think it's very important that they both work out if a woman literally doesn't
04:51:12
Jordanwork out at all you understand she can still gain weight but he's arguing we're talking about like beauty standards here yeah isn't that what you're saying
04:51:24
Brian Atlasfor women you basically just have to not be fat that's it yeah essentially okay that's it you like but for a man okay I
04:51:35
Brian AtlasI almost feel like we have some photos like we can pull up oh you have there I have a folder in the Dropbox folder I have a folder in the oh you went did you go into podcast I
04:51:50
Brian Atlaswent yeah yeah yeah let's yep yep well done all of them work out I'm trying to figure out what folder is that Nick I'm trying to podcast p drop Hawks podcast and then beauty standards beauty
04:52:03
Brian Atlasstandards yes okay oh thin men can you do also I want to compare like thin men thin women oh can you pull up can you pull up the second wait go into thin men
04:52:17
Jordanfolder uh hold on I'm trying to find how is giving birth irrelevant to this conversation like you're not having to go through that uh
04:52:29
Brian Atlasyeah here pull up I don't oh my God that's ridiculous what the all right pull up uh Hugh do it's the blue backdrop do you
04:52:41
Brian Atlassee it yeah all right and then go to thin women folder and then
04:52:50
Brian Atlasum uh pull
04:52:55
Brian Atlasup I don't know I'm trying to find one that's reasonably fair right do you work out Brian uh I should work out more I'll say
04:53:07
Brian Atlasthat I don't know pull up the one where she's like holding coconuts whatever it's the second one in there just the guy first and then the
04:53:17
Brian Atlaswoman okay and then the ones you pulled up we'll we'll look at those two okay that's fine go
04:53:29
Brian Atlasahead it's coming guys all right that's a skinny dude mhm okay skinny dude now let's go to the
04:53:38
Brian Atlaswoman that's a skinny woman she probably works I would argue more men are going to be like she has an attractive body than if you go back to the man then women are going to be like
04:53:52
Jordanhe has an attractive body honestly I see more women in in the gym than I do men nowadays that's cat no it's actually not and I I well I mean how's that relevant
04:54:04
Brian Atlasthough we have a woman going around the table like that body that I showed you of the guy he was he had a good body he had a low body fat percentage but he's he's thin he has no muscle yeah okay is do you think that that's like the apet
04:54:16
Maddie Rulike are we arguing like just those photos photo to photo compared to each other right now okay but you're showing a photo of someone that's pale compared to someone that's in the sun which pale
04:54:27
Maddie Ruis I'll find a pale thin woman not every guy just looks like that though without like you know like I would argue that he's an unhealthy body fat percentage looks like he doesn't eat that looks
04:54:38
Maddie Ruanorexic to me I would argue that's anorexia that's not average that's not an average thin man come on okay fine I'll find an untrained thin guy that
04:54:48
Brian Atlasgirl clearly goes to the gym okay here hold Nick go to the thin men folder pull up the first one pull up the first one it should be one two actual health coach
04:54:58
Brian AtlasI know what I'm talking about all right women need a Str just as much as men do more fair example I'm
04:55:08
Brian Atlasactually okay there you go there is that a bit more fair yeah that's fair so I would argue he's tan I gu all right there you go there's the untrained male body okay
04:55:21
Jordanokay but he's not fat he's not overweight and then go back to the woman okay that girl definitely works out she runs she JS she probably does
04:55:32
Jordanpilat does yog no that is not a girl that does trust me getting having that body maintaining that with just a diet is very difficult you need to work out to build muscle to build your metabolism to
04:55:44
Maddie Rukeep the fat off I'm literally trying to educate you right now how are you Ed how are you educating me CU that's not in a body of a girl that doesn't go to the
04:55:54
Jordangym like or yeah it doesn't go to G like that girl clearly works out it's so much harder to keep a lean body if you're not going to the gym and building it's all through diet building metabolis it's all
04:56:06
Jordanthrough diet you know what diet is very important you know what happens when you combine that's all that matters amazing things
04:56:14
Jordanhappen huh with muscle you can't just eat your way into muscle not every woman can just look like that without going to the gym and
04:56:27
Brian Atlasyou know eating a thousand calories a day here Nick why why don't you try um the thin women folder it's CB
04:56:38
Brian Atlast account genetics yes I know obviously I can't find like the perfect onetoone comparison I'm just trying to like you're trying to say it's harder
04:56:48
Jordanfor I'm trying to say that that guy here I maybe you feel like works out she's she's like she does have
04:56:59
Brian Atlasmuscle I can see her shoulder I can see her Tri there's an indent an achievable this is an achievable physique for a woman without having to go to the gym um she this is an achievable physique look
04:57:11
Brian Atlasat her legs there's no mus there's minimal muscular definition in the legs that's how you know okay I would argue that most women most men are going to be like whoa she's got a nice body go back
04:57:25
Maddie Ruto the guy most women are not going to be like whoo he's got a nice body okay but women are supposed to represent like childbearing qualities where men are
04:57:38
Brian Atlassupposed to represent protect like protecting you oh so muscular development right yeah so the beauty standard is it's harder for men to achieve the aspirational body type and
04:57:51
Brian Atlasthen the reverse the female Beauty standard that feminists cry about is more than obtainable for like 90% of women you basically flat stomach you don't need
04:58:01
Maddie RuABS maybe a little bit of muscle tone healthy uh BMI Wast where you getting that muscle tone from what's that where you getting that muscle tone from he's saying our workouts are easier than what
04:58:12
Brian Atlasthey have do like we do Pilates I'll I'll give you the gym comparison go to the gym three days a week eat like 200 calories below maintenance and you'll be there in a year if you're starting from average the
04:58:24
Brian Atlasmale Beauty standard that's rarely challenged by the mainstream media is literally un excuse me literally unobtainable without two if not three of of the following Elite genetics steroids
04:58:36
Maddie Ru5 plus years of treating the gym as a part-time job I disagree I've seen
04:58:41
Maddie Ruvery not muscular men get muscular with not good genetics in way less
04:58:52
Brian Atlastime men do build muscle a lot quicker and it's a lot more I'm saying you have to look like the rock to get a woman or that all women necessarily prefer the ideal I'm just stating what the
04:59:03
Jordanof a perfect body is for each gender I don't think you even know what women really like in terms of body type cuz we don't want like the crazy Thor looking body I didn't say that well I didn't say
04:59:16
Brian Atlasthat the body you don't need steroids to look great that I know would lie five plus years okay let me look let me just make it easy and I know you want to come in you let me I was just going clear it your point let me just say it like this
04:59:29
Brian Atlashere's my point agree or disagree the beauty standard that each gender is trying to achieve my position is is that it's
04:59:41
Brian Atlasharder for men to achieve the male Beauty standard than it is for women to achieve the female Beauty standard that's it that's what I'm arguing yeah
04:59:49
Maddie Rubut I disagree why because it's not that hard how you feel no because you have more you put muscle on faster but you
05:00:00
Brian Atlasdon't you need not even you need not even weight train as a woman to get like to reach the beauty standard you said leg muscle it's very hard to build air muscle definition no but the point I was
05:00:11
Jordantrying to make is that normal woman oh my gosh that normal Woman these people that you think are normal are working out they do you know that like women take up most of the market when you see like weight loss ads
05:00:23
Jordanweight loss pills all of these things women are like flooding the market with that because women really do have a hard time getting in shape and you can't discredit child giving birth okay
05:00:37
Q (Jquan)because that does change body that's not related to the conversation but it's it's not about being in shape though which occurs more naturally and easily a woman a desirable female body or a
05:00:48
Q (Jquan)desirable male body ideally women have to have a nice waisted hit ratio not be overweight breasts ass hips those things develop naturally through puberty men do
05:01:00
Q (Jquan)not put on the amount of muscle mass that women find desirable without having to work for it so that's what we're saying the female body is going to develop to be desirable quicker than the male body is going to be you have to
05:01:12
Q (Jquan)work to get it but we also have to work to maintain it that that's neither here nor there though we're talking about getting there which argue with this anym which occurs first you love it which
05:01:24
Q (Jquan)occur your husband must be very facts it's about which occurs first I women are found more desirable because your bodies are naturally going to
05:01:34
Q (Jquan)develop into having desirable features you're going to grow breasts you know you're going to grow hips not everybody but yeah most yeah but what yeah but that's what he's saying he's saying it's easier for the female body to develop
05:01:47
Q (Jquan)into a desirable body than it is for the male men have to work to get the ideal body that women are attracted to women don't necessarily have to work puberty will take you there mhm well I can say
05:01:57
Jordanthis yout down your face is getting blocked more more more more go ahead go ahead okay so I can say this I've been I was a dancer for 8 years I did weight training for 5 plus years I've done
05:02:11
Jordanbodybuilding shows I know how much work it takes to look good but here let me tell you this me before without doing weight training I I would say I did look better than
05:02:24
Jordanmaybe my husband did but I didn't meet him before he worked out I already met him after he'd already been trained for 5 years he did say he was a chubby kid and even when he hit puberty he didn't
05:02:35
Jordanlook that good so I think it's relative I don't know if we can even say a generalized statement right now which is harder I really don't know if we can say
05:02:45
Brian Atlasthat let me ask you a question right who who has it this is like kind of totally out of left field who would have an easier time being a an
05:02:55
Maddie Ruobese woman or an obese man an obese woman an obese woman hm interesting well women are more likely to be fetishized so like obese women's you
05:03:07
Brian Atlashave those photos of like what Henry Caville and Scarlet Johansson and we'll just let's just blast through all of them what's that men first then women
05:03:18
Brian Atlasor maybe okay there's now these are depictions in media women often complain to oh the beauty standards as depicted in in in magazines and media it's the unattainable beauty standards wait put
05:03:30
Brian Atlasus on the other side so we can or make it smaller alone on this left all right the the what is it Chris Evans is this Chris Evans okay next it's
05:03:39
Brian Atlasmy hall pass that's uh Thor what's his name Chris Hemsworth okay uh Henry Caville next now the
05:03:49
Brian Atlaswomen that's okay Scarlett Johansson that's what's her name from G galado okay that's it okay the two the
05:03:59
Brian Atlastwo B the the bodies of the men that's like that is so much more unobtainable almost any woman could achieve the bodies of those
05:04:16
Brian Atlaswomen the whole the whole feminist position is there are depictions in media of these unobtainable body types but we never look at the opposite side of the coin as actually the depictions
05:04:28
Brian Atlasof male body types in media and I'm using superhero movies here women who Scarlett Johansson gal Gau superheroes right those guys
05:04:38
Brian Atlassuperheroes again Elite level genetics treating the gym like a part-time job Andor steroids to achieve those physiques I showed
05:04:50
Jordandisagree okay let me let me what do you disagree let me go back to my let me go back what do you disagree let me go back I got to pee go ahead say your thing
05:04:59
Jordanwhat the this was directed towards you I'm listening go ahead okay maybe when you're younger this would apply okay because when you're young you're a dude
05:05:10
Jordanyou want to hit the gym with your you know with your guy friends whatever with your guy friends and whatnot are you still
05:05:23
Jordanlistening should I continue my point okay I'll continue my point okay so what I'm saying is when you're younger yeah maybe for a woman it might be a little bit easier to maintain a petite physique
05:05:35
Jordanand then for a guy maybe it is a little bit more work but if you think about it when you're in your 40s and your 50s a woman is going through Plato the kid 22 donated
05:05:47
TTS/Donations$100 the body is a determination of the Willing it's running faster stronger and better than most guys that makes us desirable the girl can just not eat
05:05:58
Jordancheeseburgers that's never going to be fair that's all we say I eat cheeseburgers all the time um that's all we say anyways because I go to the gym I can
05:06:11
Jordanafford it that's what I'm trying to say everybody should go to the gym but my point is is that when maybe when you're younger it's a little bit easier for women to keep their you know petite
05:06:22
Jordanphysique but then for a guy maybe yeah he does have to take extra time go to the gym lift weights you know do bench press do his pull-ups deadlifts and all that stuff
05:06:32
Jordanum but later on down the road you know women have a really hard time staying in that shape versus a man you know his body's not going through a hororo you
05:06:44
Jordanknow tsunami as it would with a woman and so he can usually maintain his body a lot better than a woman can at that point we don't even want the woman she oh what what kind of sexist
05:06:57
Q (Jquan)misogynistic have I walked into talking about she talking about menopause and at the pregn you need to discuss that because you're talking about women no we talking about a we're
05:07:08
Q (Jquan)talking about achieving who achieves the most desirable body more naturally and easier do you say you don't want women like what if they're 40 to 50 or if they hit I'm talking about generally I'm
05:07:20
Brian Atlastalking about the way we perceive attractiveness I'm talking about the general population talk Peak Peak who gets there easier that's all we're talking about like for like
05:07:32
Brian Atlasbringing in yes there are certain biological realities of women going through pregnancy but if we're comparing like for like if we're comparing a men between the ages of 18 and 30 who were
05:07:43
Brian Atlasnot factoring in women who get pregnant then there there's no there's no comparison yeah I guess I'm a little bit biased just take the L bro just take the L don't call me bro
05:07:57
Brian Atlasokay I'm not a bro I'm not your bro you know what I'm sorry hold on I just I I do I I'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely
05:08:08
Brian Atlasnobody okay girl so I don't care here let's we need to I'm sorry puffy puffy I'm so
05:08:18
Maddie Rusorry I'm going to say that puffy ain't even watching no more great puffy go ahead never mind your mouth is so big it's unattractive you say Marvel bods
05:08:30
Maddie Ruaren't women's desire five minutes minutes later Chris Pine is your haul pass please go put your makeup back on so we don't have to hear you for an hour
05:08:39
Brian Atlaswow any girl that says that that uh the picture of Chris Evans saying that they would prefer a dad bod over Chris Evans
05:08:50
Brian Atlasphysique that we showed which isn't like super steroid it up although he might be I don't know yeah he look more normal I think yeah it was it was like a little
05:08:59
Brian Atlasmore on the athletic side I'd say I mean still that's pretty insane um physique but yeah they're they taking his physique they're not they're not going for the dad bod yeah if they had a choice they're
05:09:12
Maddie Rupicking I don't think I've ever heard a woman see a dad pop up and just be like oh my God like if you like put a girl that's not really in a dad bod would be a girl that maybe has a few extra pounds
05:09:23
Jordanand then a girl that's like very fit you would choose the girl that's also you would choose a overweight girl what I'm confused everyone wants the best that they can get also you might see one of these girls that have the natural nice
05:09:35
Jordanbodies because they just don't eat cheeseburgers you don't know if they're like running three times a week you don't know if they're like eating 1,200 calories every day you know they've lost
05:09:45
Jordantheir period like you don't know these things right this is what happens this is why it's so important to go to the gym go to the gym she's like shout out my gym let's
05:09:58
Brian Atlaspuffy let's see puff I have a woman's gym by the way puffy let's let's Okay girls rate puffy oh wait I already saw him in the other one wait don't scroll down yeah I
05:10:09
Jordanthink that can can you just like go come here scroll down and then we'll just look at his other ones is there such thing as a 0.5 of course of all right
05:10:20
Brian Atlasguys here's puffy look at oh scroll down puffy got the this is Puffy Vegas this is his Instagram so rate him on a scale of 1 to 10 on no wait scroll no no
05:10:33
Brian Atlasno scroll down keep scrolling down I think unless was there all right cool uh starting with you going around the table rate him on a scale of 1 to 10 I think that's what he
05:10:45
Maddie Ruwanted yeah you could be honest we me I personally for me personally two
05:10:57
Misra/Kendall/Kylaokay three go ahead two two I would say like a
05:11:06
Misra/Kendall/Kyla1.5 a zero whoa yeah what y y'all like what so zero for you yeah damn what the
05:11:19
Brian Atlasf what about you whoa sorry he's not a zero guys I actually was going to say you realize
05:11:29
Brian Atlaslike zero would be like significant facial asymmetry like deformity like he ain't a zero okay
05:11:40
Brian Atlassorry obviously he's a 10 obviously cuz he's my sugar daddy just kidding just kidding what he's not my sugar daddy I'm
05:11:51
Brian AtlasKidd he is a patron of the whatever podcast though tomato tomato all right I dude I I I think we bring him on the podcast do it should I do a poll well maybe I'll think about she in Grid one
05:12:04
Maddie Ruyeah okay MADD I'm going to have you read this one I tell wom I'm 6 foot 3 in they look very confused when they realize I'm only 6 feet tall by the way you look much
05:12:16
Brian Atlasbetter without the makeup talking about me oh yeah thank you yeah you're like a young Kim
05:12:27
JordanKardashian whatever what I put time into that and I like took it off I was like expecting a little bit more praise here M can you read this
05:12:38
Maddie Ruone men fall in love with looks that's why women wear makeup women fall in love with words that's why men lie
05:12:46
Brian Atlasno I've heard this before yes good good thank you J was great great well put guys go to twitch.com
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05:13:09
Brian Atlasright let me get through our our uh notes here from people um Maddie you said you found your boyfriend making corn on Twitter with another girl when he was supposed to be on a work trip
05:13:20
TTS/Donationsbro that story I don't even know okay basically that happened we stopped seeing each other big SAS energy donated
05:13:30
TTS/Donations$100 seat number number four sing along chill out what you yelling for lay back it's all been done before and if you could only let it be you would see I
05:13:42
TTS/Donationslike you the way you are when we driving in your car read it sing it go oh there we go here we go wait I don't I actually don't want to sing
05:13:53
Maddie Ruthough that was so disappointing she cleared her throat and everything all right sorry brother singing lessons so what's the story real
05:14:02
Maddie Ruquick okay I was seeing a guy we were exclusive um he wasn't fast enough on a comment on his Instagram I saw the girls
05:14:13
Maddie Rupage while he was on a work trip cuz she said like poppy or something and I was like huh went on to her page she lived in the same state that he was working in and then I clicked on her Twitter and
05:14:25
Maddie Ruthere was a whole lot of there's a whole lot of porn so we stopped seeing each other and then
05:14:36
Maddie Ruthey broke up a few weeks later I hung out with him one time also if this goes anywhere like in a clip or something I will get my ass beat so like I'm not sure what you're talking about but like
05:14:47
Maddie Ruwhat are you talking about so then for the next two months I got death threats from this girl and I don't know why still don't know why but it's all over
05:14:58
Maddie Ruher Twitter if you go look at her Twitter her threatening to kill me and a bunch of videos of what she wants to do to me because I hung out with the guy that I was seeing at the same time as her that I stopped singing and when they
05:15:10
Brian Atlasbroke up I saw him one time and then they got back together and never spoke to him again sounds story yeah sounds healthy you said that you find the bigger you get on social media the harder it is for
05:15:23
Brian Atlasme to date but I'm starting to not really care men were terrible to me before SW and now they just show who they are faster saves me time
05:15:32
Maddie Ruyeah yeah I've dated like more without doing sex work than I have with doing sex work obviously and I find the treatment very similar but then like men
05:15:44
Maddie Ruslip faster in the same ways that maybe would have taken them 6 to n months they're slipping in 3 months and it's the same behavior yeah yeah and the more I grow
05:15:56
Maddie Ruokay so I seen this other guy the one that I stopped seeing like last week and one of the last things he said to me cuz I got got recognized in a Starbucks when I was with him by a girl I didn't think anything of it and then on the phone he said I actually
05:16:08
Maddie Rudon't want to be with a girl that gets recognized in public I don't want to be with a girl that makes me feel bad about myself cuz she's making all this money and I'm a server when I told him I don't put any um importance on like Financial
05:16:19
Maddie Rustuff with men because I just I just don't care if you're like a cool person trying to do anything with your life it's fine you don't need to have all this stuff and I
05:16:30
Brian Atlasdidn't ask him for anything either it's beautiful thank you beautiful story thank you thank you Maddie that was it was good is a good one um you said men
05:16:42
Brian Atlaswere terrible well you kind of told us a bit maybe we okay we'll come back to that I'm bringing it over here to Meg MH
05:16:50
Megan Robinsonso Meg you said dating younger men is safer M yeah I think a lot of women probably not anyone here but a lot
05:17:01
Megan Robinsonof women like try to go for younger men or men who are less experienced because I believe that if they're not as experienced they're not going to trigger you as much so when you date like an
05:17:14
Megan Robinsonolder guy who's had more experience who's a bit more mature he triggers you more and it like makes you look more at yourself and some people want to avoid that so they date
05:17:25
Brian Atlasyounger so wait are you advocating for women to I'm not taking a stance oh you're just
05:17:34
Megan Robinsonkind of making an observation yeah okay so what do you personally do you date younger men old so I dated a younger guy
05:17:47
Megan Robinsonbefore and I didn't grow at all in the relationship because he couldn't like push me or show me anything about myself and now my current partner he's always
05:17:57
Brian Atlasmirroring back to me things that I can improve about myself so easier thing to do I see is date younger or like less mature so kind of are you saying that
05:18:07
Megan Robinsonyounger men are going to tolerate your bad habits I don't think tolerate I think just not be aware as much right
05:18:18
Maddie Ruwait how much older is your partner he's 24 and how old are you 22 oh yeah okay you said you also said all men are trash
05:18:28
Brian Atlasno I didn't wait I not say that you well okay read the thing you're right okay yeah
05:18:37
Megan Robinsonyou said if you think all men are trash you're right MH yeah so um I think it's
05:18:45
Megan RobinsonHenry Ford who says whether you think you can you will or whether what was it those Ming up quotes tonight by the way
05:18:57
Megan RobinsonI'm doing my best those that say they can and those that say they can't are both usually they're both right yeah so whatever you think and feel about someone is how they have to show up for
05:19:08
Megan Robinsonyou so if like people keep saying like all men are trash all men are trash that's the story that they're telling themselves if they say oh all men that I see they cheat or they're in their in
05:19:19
Megan Robinsontheir marriages and they're not loyal that's just a story that you're telling yourself and you can always choose to think and believe something else okay okay all right yeah I I kind
05:19:30
Brian Atlasof misunderstood perception creates your interpreted reality yeah okay all right uh you also said trust issues aren't a
05:19:39
Megan Robinsonreal thing what do you mean by that I love these so I think when you're in a relationship and you choose the right partner for you like you go through the
05:19:49
Megan Robinsonextensive vetting process you understand who they are as a person then when you're dating them you shouldn't have trust issues you only have trust issues
05:19:59
Megan Robinsonwhen you don't trust yourself to use your discernment when it comes to your partner that's beautiful that's nice I
05:20:08
Brian Atlaslike it all right uh oh question for how do you say your name again m misra misra is that your real name misra or is that
05:20:17
Misra/Kendall/Kylalike a stage name um I mean yeah it's a stage name it's English like no is it a stage name like no like it's my what
05:20:28
Brian Atlasscoot into the table yeah uh do you consider yourself
05:20:34
Brian Atlastraditional no oh okay all right cool okay uh moving to our good
05:20:44
Brian Atlasfriend kala Kayla yeah Kayla Kayla you wanted to talk about your experience as a
05:20:52
Kaylastripper yeah um actually wrote a book umh basically where cuz most people think that strippers um are like having
05:21:04
Kaylasex for money or their or any you know things like that and actually not true for the most part it's not true and I wrote a book which basically teaches
05:21:14
Kaylawomen how they can use their feminine energy and their power um to make money in the
05:21:24
Brian Atlasclub okay straight the M he saying straight into the mic and so I have a question for you mhm what generally speaking you don't need to go into specifics about your own experience
05:21:36
Brian Atlasunless you want to what speaking of money what kind of money are girls making in the club um I can't speak for other girls
05:21:45
Kaylabut I can speak for myself um so the most money that I've brought into a club was $30,000 in a night in a night I made
05:21:56
Kayla8,000 I brought in a friend she made 5,000 cash and then the Club gets the rest cuz I think he bought like two bottles two or three bottles okay nice
05:22:07
Kaylanice what about how how are things looking in a year um I don't really want to continue stripping so um well how long have you been doing it since
05:22:19
Brian Atlas2019 okay okay interesting question like you approach dudes in right you approach dudes all right pretend I'm a trick or
05:22:29
KaylaMark or whatever they're called I don't even call them tricks yeah uh so how would you come up to me oh that's interesting um I just be like well I
05:22:41
Kaylayeah you you were the type that I would go up to what the you are I have a type that I would go up to in the club for to get money on them so I just um if
05:22:51
Kaylayou walk in I just be like hey like what's your name where you from that's the most insulting what what he's he's
05:23:02
Kaylafunny wait why are you agreeing no it's funny sorry okay go ahead go ahead so I just
05:23:12
Kaylabe like hey like first off I would like I mean I wouldn't grab you but I I I wouldn't grab you I don't grab anybody took some
05:23:21
Kaylamil whoa where did that come from so I would just um I just you know make my presence known hey how are you what's your name where you from from I'm
05:23:32
KaylaCornelius okay good to meet you is it your first time here it's my 20th oh so are you a local cuz I don't deal with
05:23:42
Brian Atlaslocals no I just drive three hours to come here to get away cuz so my wife doesn't see so you so you pretty much know how the club works okay um it's kind of hard when they kind of
05:23:55
Brian Atlasknow how the club Works cuz when they don't know I feel like you can like you can finesse you can finesse more how do you finesse finesse me let's see it okay oh so oh yeah um it's my first
05:24:07
Kaylatime oh is your first time okay yeah well okay so here's the thing so where I'm working now they have set prices okay set price set price for like an hour um is 600 now when I worked at
05:24:19
Kaylaanother club that didn't have set prices you can like literally go in and you can just say like for an hour for example in the hour VIP room I just go in there with a guy and I just throw a number out there 4,000 either he's going to do it
05:24:31
Kaylaor he's not where I'm working now you can't do that so basically how I would finesse you if I wanted more out of a $600 room I would
05:24:42
Kaylajust say things like um like okay the club's going to take a percentage of my money can you make it at even thousand
05:24:52
Brian Atlascan you tip me 400 and they do and sometimes they tip more cool mhm but like let's do a role play here
05:25:04
Brian Atlasso like let's actually role play okay so I'm in the club that's how you were in the club you're in the club like
05:25:15
Brian Atlasthat [Laughter] what oh look at the titties like you're coming at me like
05:25:26
Brian Atlasthat no just that's I'm just like oh the club oh so like you're coming in like you don't know nothing like like like an a just
05:25:36
Brian Atlasjust just role play it just role play it if you well if you came at me like that I'm just like I'm just like a naive white boy that's it just come up to me naive white boy okay like I said what's
05:25:48
Kaylayour name where you from have you been here before have you seen the rooms y um my name is Henry okay Henry the fifth are you ready to have some fun tonight oo what kind of fun um
05:26:01
Kaylawell what kind of fun are you looking to get
05:26:07
Kaylainto I don't know what does the misss provide for the services well come here and let me show
05:26:17
Kaylayou let me take you to an our VIP ah can you tell me more about this VIP section so that's what so basically this is what I tell guys I'm British by the way this
05:26:29
Kaylais what I tell guys um and it's not true because where we work where I work you're not allowed to get naked you're not even allowed to wear a g-ring yeah yeah they're real strict um
05:26:41
Brian Atlaswhat if we're in the VIP room my dear and I want to have sexual intercourse with that's not going to happen I thought in the what's that song by uh is
05:26:52
Kaylait Chris Rock it's like sex in the CH something about the champagne room what is it I don't know I I don't think I've heard that but um no you're not having sex with anybody in that
05:27:04
Kaylaclub what about after no I would like my dear to have sexual intercourse with you after the club pay me money right now and then
05:27:17
Kaylamaybe I'll come but then I really don't come y I'm about to say that sounds like my ex-girlfriend right there she never came now it became Australian I don't know they're like super desperate about
05:27:30
Kaylalike wanting to hang out with me after the club and if I know that I can get them to get me money in the club it's it's all it's kind of game it's just trickery honestly cool that was
05:27:44
Kaylaenlightening damn it's just the game you said you regret working in the industry though why don't you tell us about that I I don't really regret it okay um I just think that I've
05:27:57
Kaylagrown tired of it even though I good money um even on nights where I make good money I'm still like over it um and I just think that is come comes with
05:28:08
Kaylajust being in the industry I mean Noz have you ever had a sugar daddy you know what no but there was this guy that I met last week he's actually a YouTuber
05:28:19
Kaylaum he wanted he was telling me he was he was on this site um seeking seeking yeah and he was like have you heard of this site and I was like no I've never heard of it and he was like well you know what like I'm a
05:28:31
KaylaYouTuber now I'm making all this money like I want to take care of a woman I'm like okay and he's like I want to take care of you because you're smart you're the first woman who came up to me I think you're smart you have a book out
05:28:42
Kaylathere and you're on YouTube um I want you to be my sugar baby or whatever so so basically I was supposed to hang
05:28:53
Kaylaout with him on Sunday right he was going to take me to dinner and he told me he was like you know I'll pay you to take you to dinner long
05:29:02
Kayla[Music] story long story short I didn't go um cuz I just didn't want to and he ended up sending me $500 CU I still asked him
05:29:14
Kaylacan he send me $500 so I can you know use it to get out here because he knows I'm on this show
05:29:25
Kaylatoday he just sent you $500 yeah I literally show you the message like he just literally sent me me $500 that's so that's the only sugar daddy situation well he wasn't even really a sugar daddy
05:29:36
Maddie Rucuz I never even met him yeah you said you had a sugar daddy situation too yeah how many sugar daddies have you had um one longterm and then I've done like a few like dinner dates going back to you
05:29:48
Brian Atlasreally quick how many actually show of hands any other girls here had a sugar daddy ever no come on you've had a sugar daddy right I wouldn't like count it as that
05:30:00
Brian Atlaswhat do you what did you count it as what whatever it was was it I I said it last time I was here I forgot sorry it was like oh you've been on no I'm just
05:30:10
Misra/Kendall/Kylakidding it was like um this dude asked if he could like pay me to like send a voice memo over
05:30:20
Misra/Kendall/KylaInstagram saying he has a small dick oh W and actually after I went on this podcast some random person V with me $500 what yeah so shout out to that wait
05:30:32
Misra/Kendall/Kylawhat's the give us a little more details than that so I was like checking my venmo and then I was like whoa why do I have $500 in here and I saw that a random person sent me $500 with a rose
05:30:44
Misra/Kendall/Kylaso then I did like FBI investigation then I went on his profile I found his mom then I found his mom's Instagram and then I found his his Instagram from his mom then I saw that he follow the
05:30:54
Misra/Kendall/Kylawhatever podcast I was like okay that makes sense did you message him no I thought I was a scam I called my mom and I was like is this real like can you take money back fromo L for if you're
05:31:05
Brian Atlaswatching right now dude that's a that's an L please you five $500 did it say like in the me the memo
05:31:14
Brian Atlaswhatever podcast no it was a rose what and I I mean it went through it's in my bank account damn simp simp that's it though and then you said there you a guy
05:31:26
Brian Atlaspaid you how much to say he had a small wean I don't know like like $100 or $200 and I was like like that's crazy dude I want to finesse I I would love to
05:31:37
Brian Atlasfinesse women in this way like where's all the women sliding into my DMs wanting I'll degrade actually I I don't know that's I don't know if I want
05:31:47
Brian Atlasto is that sex work to do that yeah I don't know if I want to be classified as a sex worker yeah I had an opportunity like that I don't know if I I the whole degradation thing is kind of weird to me
05:31:59
Brian Atlasbut um where's all I want at least I want the option to say no at least like I want to at least have women like Mis
05:32:10
Brian Atlasmisra misra misra why can't you just message me be like yo Brian can you just like cuss at me or some I want to be like uh no here's $300 uh
05:32:26
Brian Atlasno I want to do the reverse I want to do the reverse finesse like y'all be getting all these dudes it's got to funnel up to me bro but you have like these kind of
05:32:39
Maddie Rugirls on your podcast so you get more views like you're finessing like you're still using
05:32:47
Maddie Rulike gu sex work for I guess she's right damn you're in sex work no not really I'm in podcast you're capitalizing on us
05:32:58
Brian Atlaswork podcast oh wait yeah capitalizing boom but wait so okay sugar daddy uh what about you ever had sugar daddy scenario sold Fe picks 300 bucks
05:33:09
Megan Robinsonthat kind of no I I got a lot of messages from like people claiming to be sugar daddies but I felt like it was always just fake I've gotten a lot of those
05:33:21
Brian Atlastoo when I was single I actually considered it I didn't what about you any sugar daddies I know you got some you got
05:33:33
Misra/Kendall/Kylasome a few but before obviously before relationship when you break up with this guy are you going back to only
05:33:45
Brian Atlasfans I mean I'm I'm not thinking of breaking up is that why you stopped doing only fans because of your new relationship and he didn't like it I
05:33:55
Brian Atlasjust like it felt like like I was just bored of taking naked photos of yourself it's a lot of work like it's it's really time
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Misra/Kendall/Kylaconsuming okay mentally I'd say it's exhausting honestly yeah like it's it's a lot and especially like because like my family's