CONFRONTING Viral Gym E-girl! 50 Body Count At 21?! Makeup DEBATE! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #139
Date: 2024-02-28
Duration: 7h 18m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Maddie Ru(guest)
SPEAKER_03Misra/Kendall/Kyla(guest)
SPEAKER_04Gym man (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_05Maddie gym (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_07Joey Swole (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Kayla(guest)
SPEAKER_11Q (Jquan)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Music/Clips(audience)
SPEAKER_13Jordan(guest)
SPEAKER_14Megan Robinson(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:11
IntroBrian Atlas opens show; introduces himself and co-host Kiki.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas I'm joined by my co-host Kiki back there she's a bit shy”
00:03:30
IntroMaddie Ru introduces herself: 21, OnlyFans creator, Orange County CA. Viral gym e-girl.
“hi I'm Maddie Ru I'm 21 I do only fans... California... Orange County”
00:04:14
IntroMisra introduces: 21, former OnlyFans, originally Izmir Turkey, currently Riverside CA.
“misra um 21 and I did only fans um I'm in between right now... originally turkey but right now Riverside... ismir”
00:04:58
IntroMegan Robinson introduces: 22, mindset coaching business, podcast 'Lessons in Self-Love', Washington DC.
“my name is Megan Robinson I have a mindset coaching business and I have a podcast called lessons in selflove I'm 22 years old and I'm from Washington DC”
00:05:42
IntroKayla introduces: 30, Las Vegas, stripper/author/starting real estate.
“my name is Kayla um I'm 30 I live in Las Vegas um I'm a stripper an author and I'm also starting real estate”
00:06:02
IntroJordan introduces: 25, married, owns private gym in Riverside with husband, personal trainer.
“hi thank you for having me my name is Jordan I'm 25 my husband and I own a private gym in Riverside we also do personal training online coaching entrepreneur I'm a wife and a dog mom”
00:06:25
IntroQ (Jquan) introduces: 31, behavioral scientist, certified relationship coach, YouTuber, author.
“Q uh the Q behavioral scientist certified relationship coach YouTuber entrepreneur author age 31 government name jquan”
00:28:00
Key MomentBrian confirms viral gym video was scheduled before it went viral — Maddie was invited back 2-3 weeks prior to the viral incident.
“she's been on before and I actually reached out to you to invite you back before the whole viral thing like we had scheduled you to be on today's show like two weeks ago”
00:29:52
Key MomentMaddie asks whether adding bounce to the squat was deliberate — admits she added it because it looked sexual when filmed. Posted with caption 'wondering when I'm going to be recognized from my leg day warmup'.
“I realized that it looked kind of sexual and so I started adding like a bounce to it... I started filming it for reels... I always put that clip with a caption that says wondering when I'm going to be recognized from my leg day warmup”
00:50:11
Key MomentQ argues Maddie was eliciting a sexual response deliberately and played innocent with 'I can't believe I'm not allowed to stretch' caption.
“it's the Innocence it's the position of Innocence that you took... you've already stated that that's what you were trying to do overtly... that's what you were doing”
01:35:00
QuoteMisra reveals Turkish ex cheated on her 33-36 times; she moved to Turkey for him.
“he cheated on me like I think 36 times... I moved to Turkey for him though that's why”
01:36:00
Key MomentMisra reveals sex addiction: approximately 30 partners in one year during first year of college (age 19), after Turkish ex cheated on her ~36 times. Therapist diagnosed sex addiction.
“I would say like probably 30... I would say one year... I went to therapy cuz my friends actually made me cuz I was actually having like a really bad problem and then he was like I think you have a sex addiction”
02:07:00
Key MomentBrian's core argument: women who make a new man wait while having slept with others quickly are presenting a false standard. The McDonald's $1000 cheeseburger analogy.
“everyone in the restaurant paid $1 for a cheeseburger... I get to the front of the line ask for a cheeseburger and the clerk looks at me and says it's $1,000 for you sir”
02:18:00
Key MomentQ reads his viral list of concerns about women with high body counts: oxytocin depletion, pair bonding damage, hidden STIs, divorce correlation, paternity uncertainty.
“i'd be concerned about the long-term benefits of dealing with promiscuous women I'd be concerned about your oxytocin receptors densified to the point where you can't effectively parabond... increased risk of divorce... paternity uncertainty which means a promiscuous woman is more likely to cuck you”
04:00:00
Key MomentJordan removes makeup on camera during makeup debate to test Brian's claim that women look better without it.
“I'm going to take it off and then you're going to like lower my rating just to be rude... I'm not... take my word for it”
04:03:00
QuoteBrian rates Jordan after she removes makeup: says she looks attractive with or without makeup.
“I tend to think women are look as good or sometimes better without makeup uh I think you're an attractive women woman with or without makeup”
05:09:40
Key MomentGirls rate Puffy Vegas (regular donor) on his Instagram photos. Ratings: Maddie: 2, Misra: 3, one guest: 1.5, another: 0. Brian objects to 0.
“rate him on a scale of 1 to 10... two... three... 1.5... a zero... what the f... zero would be like significant facial asymmetry like deformity”
06:08:20
Key MomentBrian proposes 'legal paternal surrender' — if abortion is legal, men should be able to legally wave parental rights and child support obligation within a time window.
“I think men should have a corresponding right called Legal paternal surrender... if the woman gets pregnant and he can make some sort of legal election to not be financially responsible he can wave his parental rights”
06:37:00
Key MomentMaddie reveals she reported her ex to the government for disability fraud (he was faking a disability to avoid getting a job while she considered buying him a car and paying for therapy).
“I've reported my ex for disability fraud and sent in videos of us to the government... he was lying to me about having a job he was faking disability”
06:37:50
ControversyKayla admits to slashing tires, throwing bricks at cars, putting sugar in gas tanks, and hitting partners (all directed at cheating men). She is bipolar.
“I have sliced tires I have thrown bricks and cars I put sugars in tank... I've hit... I'm bipolar... and I've done that in more than one person”
Topics Discussed
00:00:11
Show intro and guest introductions
Brian Atlas opens from Santa Barbara. Introduces co-host Kiki. Guests introduce: Maddie Ru (21, OnlyFans, OC CA), Misra (21, Turkey/Riverside, former OF), Megan Robinson (22, DC, mindset coach), Kendall (19, SBCC, San Diego), Kayla (30, Las Vegas, stripper/author), Kyla (18, SBCC, Santa Barbara), Jordan (25, Riverside, gym owner, married), Q/Jquan (31, behavioral scientist/coach).
00:10:00
Relationship status round
Brian goes around table: Maddie single ~1 week (celibacy claim); Misra in new relationship 1 week (Turkish BF moved from Turkey); Megan in relationship 10 months, premarital counseling (no sex until marriage); Kendall in relationship 1 month (frat boy); Kayla single ~2 years (one child, ex trying to return); Kyla unknown; Jordan married 6 months (together 6 years); Q single.
00:18:20
Maddie Ru gym viral video discussion
Brian and panel discuss Maddie's viral plie squat video at LA Fitness (~300M views). The video: man approached, kicked her phone, she posted captioned 'I can't believe I'm not allowed to stretch at the gym'. Discussion of whether it was staged, whether exercise is legitimate, whether it was sexually provocative. Joey Swole reaction video played — he says both were wrong: man shouldn't touch property, but woman was deliberately sexual. Brian notes Maddie's pattern of sexual gym captions pre-dating the viral incident. Q argues she was eliciting sexual responses for attention/money.
00:56:00
Makeup debate: deception or enhancement
Discussion of whether makeup is deceptive. Q argues it can constitute legal action (joking). Jordan removes makeup on camera. Brian says he thinks women often look as good or better without makeup; compliments Jordan. Maddie also takes off most of her makeup on camera — Brian says there's still some remaining. Discussion: women do makeup for other women as much as for men; beauty industry is 90% women; men find hard-to-achieve body standards (require gym/steroids) more demanding than female beauty standard (which just requires low body fat).
01:11:40
Beauty standards: men vs women body expectations
Brian argues male beauty standard (superhero physique: Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Henry Cavill) is harder to achieve than female beauty standard (Scarlett Johansson, Gal Gadot). Men need elite genetics + years in gym +/- steroids. Women can achieve aspirational body through diet alone. Jordan (trainer) partially disagrees: women must maintain through workout too; hormonal changes make it harder over time. Maddie raises that birth control makes women more attracted to feminine men. Photos of thin men vs thin women shown; panel debates.
01:22:00
Height and physical appearance preferences
Brian asks everyone's height and minimum male height requirements. Heights: Maddie 5'10", Megan 5'9", Misra 5'5" (min 5'10"), Kendall 5'3" (as long as taller), Jordan 5'4" (min 5'9"-ish, husband is 5'9.5"), Kyla 5'2 3/4" (min 5'9"). Current/past boyfriend heights listed. Discussion of dating app height filters.
01:30:00
Waiting for sex and body count discussion
Extended discussion: Brian asks whether women who had quick sex with previous partners then make a new guy they like wait is fair. Misra shares she would make a guy wait to avoid losing feelings (as happened during sex addiction period). Brian presents multiple analogies comparing the dynamic (McDonald's $1000 burger; prior dates got 5-star meals but new girl gets McDonald's; etc.). Q reads his viral list of concerns about high body count women: oxytocin depletion, pair bonding damage, hidden STIs, divorce correlation, paternity uncertainty. Panel mostly disagrees with Brian's framing but agrees it's understandable from male perspective. Jordan defends Misra: it's about her healing, not being fair to the guy.
01:34:00
Misra's sex addiction and depression story
Misra reveals that during first year of college (age 19), after her Turkish ex cheated on her ~36 times, she had sex with approximately 30 men (some repeats) in one year. Therapist diagnosed sex addiction at around 10-15 partners. Friends dragged her out to parties; she would drink and hook up; sex provided dopamine relief from depression. Fastest hookup: within first hour of meeting. She was being diagnosed while processing the abandonment/cheating trauma. Panel debates whether 'sex addiction' label is correct vs depression/low self-worth. She now uses sex to cope when very depressed but differently. Current boyfriend knows her history and is supportive.
05:09:40
Ratings: girls rate Puffy Vegas (regular donor)
Puffy Vegas (a regular TTS donor) requests to be rated by the panel based on his Instagram photos. Brian scrolls his Instagram. Ratings: Maddie: 2; Misra: 3; Kyla: 1.5; another panel member: 0. Brian objects to a 0 rating, says 0 would require significant facial deformity.
05:31:10
Q's story: obsessive long-distance hookup
Q tells story of woman he was casually seeing long-distance (Long Island to Philadelphia). She took a bus to see him. After he posted a Spanish lyric about liking Spanish-speaking girls, she called him 54 times consecutively. He answered on the 55th call. She was on a megabus at 2am coming to Philadelphia. They had sex and she left. He never spoke to her again.
06:08:20
Abortion and bodily autonomy debate
Brian argues forced military conscription is a greater bodily autonomy infringement than denying abortion access. Maddie disagrees, says they're similar. Jordan is pro-life: if not ready for motherhood, not ready for sex; adoption is an option. Brian proposes 'legal paternal surrender' as policy that could be bundled with abortion rights. Kayla: had abortion (got pregnant on birth control with abusive partner). Jordan: abortion has lasting mental health impact. Debate on when life begins.
06:15:00
Women's self-assessed dating flaws
Q asks panel what flaws they bring to relationships. Maddie: OnlyFans, sex tapes with other men, social media presence. Misra: moody/hangry, ignores people when mad. Kayla: violent reactions to cheating (slashed tires, bricks in cars, sugar in gas tanks, physical fights) — bipolar. Megan: emotional volatility (working on it). Jordan: needs partner validation on appearance, can have an attitude (improved significantly). Misra reveals revenge story: reported Turkish ex to immigration/his US sponsor after finding out about cheating; filmed it.
06:16:20
Kayla violent behavior story and bipolar discussion
Q asks panel about behavioral flaws. Kayla admits to: slashing tires, throwing bricks at cars, putting sugar in gas tanks, hitting partners. All directed at men who cheated on her. She is bipolar. Panel reacts with shock and humor. Brian says she reminds him of an ex.
06:30:00
What women expect from men they date
Q asks women to list their expectations from partners. Maddie: honesty, transparency, passion/drive, respect. Discussion of whether passion for niche topics (World of Warcraft) counts. Brian goes on extended World of Warcraft tangent (world buff meta for classic WoW).
07:13:20
Wrap-up
Brian wraps the show. Plugs Twitch, Clips Channel, Discord. Show ends.
Transcript
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00:55:45
Misra/Kendall/Kyladisagree um disagree but also you can like go to the gym and like do your own like workout and like whatever that you
00:55:55
Misra/Kendall/Kylaneed to do and also be sexual with it like there doesn't have to be like one purpose grid One Motorsports donated $100 Jesus said on the cross forgive
00:56:07
TTS/Donationsthem Father they know not what they do but CHD know what she was doing and will go to hell for her sins as remorseless as she is for those are the wages of sin
00:56:17
Brian Atlaswow look at that you're going you're going to hell for your little uh gym p s video you're going to you're going to get up to those pearly gates and they're
00:56:30
Brian Atlasgoing to be they're going to be like the going Play that video and be like you were on the fence but because you did that sorry Straight to Hell yep brutal um but you can repent I
00:56:44
Brian Atlasof your treacherous misdeeds treacherous okay go ahead you're finishing your point I was just saying that like there there doesn't
00:56:55
TTS/Donationslike need to be just one purpose of you going to the gym oh we got another Wy coyote 5 donated $100 forgive them for they know not what
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TTS/Donationsthey do it is finished father into your hands I commend my spirit were the last words Jesus spoke before he died on the cross also First Corinthians verse 18
00:57:17
Brian Atlashey Wy coyote thank you for the uh TTS man appreciate it thank you for thank you guys for uh getting us the actual uh quote
00:57:28
Misra/Kendall/Kylaoh um if I ever stare at you that typically means I'm waiting for you to talk go ahead um but like she can work out and
00:57:39
Misra/Kendall/Kylathen also like posts for her only fans and get the bag but like that doesn't mean she's going there for only fans that means she's going to the and it's
00:57:50
Maddie Rulike a side note okay can you read this one Maddie if it's not about being a 3044 what is it then it's blank with
00:58:01
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00:58:16
Maddie Ruclown you want to he's he's shooting shots you got to respond Maddie h okay the thing is is like anyone that openly hates on Strangers Like You don't
00:58:28
Maddie Ruknow me and you're like saying nasty things to me and you think that you're better than me like I think you're a bad person so I don't really care what a nasty mean person would have
00:58:40
Brian Atlasto say about me yeah guys you guys don't know her you haven't seen her underwater photography her underwater videography okay so you're saying it's cool you're you're saying like it's okay
00:58:51
Misra/Kendall/Kylato go to the gym and make only fans content yeah yeah cuz your like she's not going there to make content but
00:59:01
Brian Atlasshe's there so why not post a story while there but like so it sounds like you're saying that if a girl wanted to go to the gym and do kind of like a semi
00:59:12
Brian Atlassexy video that she was going to later distribute on of no issue there okay you think no no no no no hold on this is for her go
00:59:22
Brian Atlasahead could you re ask the question well you said that you know even if there is this ulterior purpose like it's okay to post on only
00:59:32
Brian Atlasfan so is it is it your view that it's let's say you went into one of these uh you know the CL one of the classes classrooms that they have at gyms where it's like
00:59:44
Brian Atlaswood floors or whatever where they'll do Pilates yoga and somebody goes in there when there's not a class for example and they're just I don't know doing some semi not
00:59:55
Brian Atlasnudity but like semisexual stuff with the with the explicit purpose of posting it to O my understanding is based off of what
01:00:06
Brian Atlasyou said you're that's cool you're fine with that condoning it you support it saying that post oop sorry I did not
01:00:16
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TTS/Donationsup long such a stereotypical red flag tat also a salute to the soldier um oh he's he's saluting thank than yo Ryan Hall thank you man do you
01:00:40
Maddie Ruwant to say anything about the he called out your butterfly tattoo yeah um I've had these for years before they ever
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Maddie Ruthis nice thank you man appreciate it thank thank you thank you um what about the but butterfly tattoos oh I've just had them forever I don't care if things like Trend and come out and this and
01:01:44
Brian Atlasthat it's just you know I feel bad for the girls who who had the sternum tattoos before they were cool and then everybody got them because they're basically I mean I was never a fan of no offense to any girls here who might have
01:01:56
Brian Atlasthat tattoo I was never really a fan of them to begin with but uh I hated them from the get-go so I'm a trend Setter in that regard but they're kind of the Stamp of the
01:02:07
Brian Atlas2010s I they started getting popular around like 2015 maybe what okay
01:02:17
Brian Atlasum yeah I'm not a fan of the 20 of the modern stamp the sternum tattoo yeah I don't know red flag huge red flag
01:02:26
Q (Jquan)anybody here got one who's got a sternum tattoo don't be shy anybody it's going to be a long show boys all right um back to her no yeah
01:02:38
Q (Jquan)yeah yeah so so you were saying that you think it's okay why do you why do you think that's okay like Joey swo said he doesn't think that's the appropriate place to do it he has no issue with only fans girls making their content doing whatever they want to do to make money
01:02:50
Misra/Kendall/Kylaso why is it okay for her to do that in a public gym why do you why do you support that I can't wait I'm saying that it's okay to take a story or like
01:03:02
Brian Atlastake like a video like like a Tik Tok like there's cuz it's a Tik Tok I'm not selling it on only fans I think you're kind of walking back your previous stated
01:03:12
Brian Atlasposition like you previously I don't remember it in verbatim but it was pretty clear like from what you said that you said it's okay if you're doing something for o at the gym you know if
01:03:24
Misra/Kendall/Kylait's sexual or whatever okay what I'm saying is let's say I'm going to the gym if I go to the gym and I want to post a
01:03:34
Misra/Kendall/Kylastory so it has benefits for my only fans also then I don't see a problem in that but that in itself is the problem why is the gym the place to do that why are you using the gym to promote your
01:03:47
Q (Jquan)only fans or to do you guys also have a problem with girls that work out in sports BRS and spandex I got a problem problem with girls who work out and you and use it as a trojan horse to sell sex period
01:03:59
Q (Jquan)because you know what you're doing it's not about the workout itself of course you can say yes I'm working out but the reality is as I said you're doing it for attention it's not for the genuine workout because if you were really working out to work out you don't need
01:04:11
Maddie Ruto record yourself doing it I mean I work out to work out and it I also use it for my job like it doesn't have to just be one thing that was what I was trying to say I do think that there's probably a just to answer your question
01:04:23
Brian Atlasdirectly I do think that there's probably appropriate gym attire and I think you know there's a decent amount of leeway as far as what I would deem as
01:04:34
Brian Atlasacceptable to wear in a gym uh I mean the most obvious example I think this got a bit of attention recently I can't I don't know if we're able to if Nick's able to find it there's girl basically
01:04:46
Brian Atlaswearing like uh her ass was essentially hanging out of her it was almost like approaching a bikini and I would you agree that
01:04:58
Maddie Ruwearing a bikini at the gym doing a workout would be inappropriate to wear honestly yeah I think like spandex
01:05:08
Brian Atlascuz that's not meant for working out you know I mean no but let's say it was the appropriate fabric no I mean but it was in the same same shape as a essentially a bikini I'm saying like booty shorts
01:05:21
Maddie Rusports bra meant for working out that's gy attire right so that's fine so booty shorts where like the ass cheeks are hanging out is why do they have to hang out like do all these girls have fat
01:05:32
Brian Atlasasses I no but it it occurs to me that that might be a bit maybe bit much for the gy a bikini is meant for swimming you know what I
01:05:43
Brian Atlasmean right but I'm saying like an an outfit that approached the amount
01:05:51
Brian Atlasof of revealing this that's not the word uh that was close to as revealing as a bikini would that be appropriate to wear
01:06:03
Brian Atlasat the gym can I see it there no I Nick have you found were you able to find anything kind of tough to find it doesn't matter we're I don't want to linger I don't want toing I don't want to linger too
01:06:16
Megan Robinsonlong on this so just your reaction to Joey swo I agree with Joey swo um and I think what we're discussing here and like why we're going back and forth is
01:06:26
Megan Robinsonwe're talking more about what is sacred like one person views sexuality as sacred and another one doesn't view it as sacred so I think that's what we're
01:06:35
Megan Robinsondebating and I agree with what Joey Joey says I think it's not appropriate in a public setting okay going around the table just you you you you and you um I
01:06:48
Misra/Kendall/Kylakind of agree with both sides like I'm kind of neutral I think they both make very valid points oh um I would agree with what's
01:06:59
Misra/Kendall/Kylahis name Joey Joey Joey I would agree with joy Joey just because it's in a public setting um I'm neutral too I just feel like the gym is like like I feel like
01:07:12
Misra/Kendall/Kylapersonally when I get in there like it's my place like I don't really want to talk to anyone else like don't no one talk to me so like I don't know I think both points are very valid yeah I I do agree with with Joey I
01:07:25
Jordanmean I think that kind of stuff I think it should be like more in a private setting I think in like a public place now I do want to say though not everybody would even know that what you were doing was sexual at all they could just be
01:07:38
Jordanthinking you're squatting right but because you had someone viewed it as sexual yeah if somebody like saw the video then they would know what you're doing by your faal expressions and the angle it's like right there but you can
01:07:51
Maddie Rusee like I made a face for how many seconds and the of the time my face is normal so like why going to sexualize a whole exercise based off like 2 seconds yeah I think maybe cuz a guy like saw
01:08:03
Jordanyour phone there yeah and then maybe was like oh she's making content I'm tired of seeing this kind of stuff and then he figured out that it was sexual and I I would have to agree with sorry what was
01:08:13
Jordanyour name Megan Megan I have to agree with you that's my sister's name anyway um I'd have to agree with you I think for me sex is very sacred and I think like bringing it into a is just not the
01:08:25
TTS/Donationstime and place I think that should be in the bedroom only doc venail has donated $100 my teenage kids go to the gym with me if you behave like that in front of
01:08:36
Maddie Ruthem I will actively work to get you banned from our gym public modesty is important for a healthy Society you couldn't get me banned from
01:08:45
Brian Atlasyour gym for stretching so try again what did I miss have you guys just been sitting here and silence since I
01:08:54
Brian Atlasleft no we were all talking re I was saying I agree she's neutral okay well moving on we do have a chat
01:09:04
TTS/Donationshere from our good friend pin cosines donated $17 ladies and men I have 14 and 12
01:09:15
TTS/Donationsyear-old daughters what is the best information or advice you can provide a 50-year-old guy who has been out of the market for a long time as it relates to
01:09:26
Brian Atlasdating you got anything on this queue is he single saying yeah I think he's out of the dating Dating Game and he and he wants get back but he's he
01:09:36
Brian Atlassays he's what 50 what did he say 50 two kids well the kids I don't think are super related to the question at hand anything Q uh yeah I would say for the
01:09:48
Q (Jquan)most part he ain't missing much in the modern dating era it's a lot of it's a lot of chaos amongst women and what they feel they can do and how they feel men need to behave and you know the lack of
01:10:00
Q (Jquan)accountability and all of those things so if he really wants to get back out on The Dating Market I would suggest he find somebody more around his age just to settle down who would probably be more likely to have the same values and the same belief set and you know who
01:10:13
Q (Jquan)wants to grow old together who's in the same head space otherwise he'll die early because of the stress because of the stress that I was like
01:10:25
Brian Atlaswhoa actually related to what you said I read recently something like a 19-year-old woman today I don't know if it's 19 or 21 a 19-year-old woman today
01:10:36
Brian Atlasis going to have a higher body count than a woman who's 50 I saw that some I don't know if that's the exact uh the age is but so you you've got your
01:10:46
Q (Jquan)average 19-year-old has had more sexual partners than a 50-year-old today yeah I mean something like that yeah honestly at first I was skeptical um Sadia had said it me and Sadia had a little bit of
01:10:59
Q (Jquan)a falling out we used to follow each other okay but um when I thought about it I was like honestly yes it's Pro it's it's likely possible because for one the body count did increase for the average woman um in the past 20 years the body
01:11:11
Q (Jquan)count has increased so that's that's true and then the second thing is a lot of these women due to feminism feel a lot more sexually liberated they have less shame their moral compasses are not
01:11:22
Q (Jquan)what they used to be they lot less selective um social media makes access to men who will run through them use them and abuse them sexually a lot more prevalent so yes it's honestly a valid a
01:11:34
Q (Jquan)valid point it's a valid take I do believe that the body count for a 19yearold today would probably be higher than the body count of a 50-year old woman speaking of that I'd like to go around the table on this so I'm not
01:11:43
Brian Atlasasking you guys yet for your body counts but uh of your friend group like if you had to cuz I mean you know we have a
01:11:54
Brian Atlas30-year-old a 25-year-old but uh we got 21 21 21 22 19 and then 18 she stepped away to go to the bathroom uh of like
01:12:04
Brian Atlasyour friend group girls you know what is uh what do you think the average body count of your friends
01:12:13
Maddie Ruis um a few of my friends have been with their Partners since high school so they bring the average way down but I would
01:12:22
Brian Atlassay probably around like 14 at 21 yeah um they're all older most of my friends are like 29 oh well I'm talking well okay what about you do do
01:12:34
Brian Atlasfirst off do you have girlfriends around your age yeah okay what what would you say like they're body count is probably I think like
01:12:43
Megan Robinsonaround like around 14 okay this is tricky cuz I feel like I'm like in between friends right now like I recently went through some things where
01:12:54
Brian AtlasI had to like let go of people so okay so tell us like your new friends and your dgen friends go ahead old friends
01:13:01
Brian Atlasprobably like eight I'm guessing yeah okay um you live in I Vista right yeah
01:13:12
Brian AtlasUCSB number one party school huge party scene in IV what you heard for like average I would say maybe like five or six
01:13:25
Brian Atlasokay actually I want to add one thing to this question um what's the highest that you've heard from a girl from a girl
01:13:32
Brian Atlasyeah that you know ooh like 40 40 here let's actually come back around starting again with you on
01:13:43
Maddie Ruthis o probably like honestly girls not as high as guys like maybe 30 that's the highest yeah
01:13:54
Maddie Ruand guys always in the hundreds ran through okay all right what about you um I think the highest I've heard is 50
01:14:05
Misra/Kendall/Kylaprob okay probably like 10 okay and you said I said like the highest I've ever heard from a girl yeah that you know personally not that I'm friends with
01:14:16
Brian Atlasanymore well you don't have to be just like acquaintance whatever yeah okay have what's the next highest mean so like the second highest
01:14:25
Kaylaoh um 20 20 okay um I haven't been told what's the like the highest from my friends they haven't told me wait hold
01:14:35
Brian Atlason uh yeah they haven't told you they haven't told me can I have you tilt your microphone down a little bit yeah uh maybe a little less yeah the you don't talk about you
01:14:48
Brian Atlasdon't talk shop with any of your girls no I do um but she's never told me how how many you have One Singular come on well I've known her since yeah I've known her since um Elementary but like what about okay you used to work with
01:15:00
Kaylagirls in the club right used to strip or you still do I still do yeah you y'all no sidebo you guys no they don't they don't tell me they don't tell me you're not you don't have but I'm pretty sure it's a lot like but they don't I'm not
01:15:12
Brian Atlasreally friends with the girls in the clubs yeah but like you guys don't even talk about that sort of stuff really not really all right what about you um the highest probably is like 20 20 okay I
01:15:23
Brian Atlashad a friend not friends anymore but she was in the 30s okay Q what about you what's the highest body count you've heard from a girl from a girl yeah
01:15:36
Q (Jquan)from um probably about 25 really yeah probably about about about 20 oh yeah yeah yeah body counts some girls
01:15:48
Brian Atlasare proud of it or I'm I'm going to say this so I've heard and this is before I started my show cuz I've heard some outrageous body counts on this show uh I this was a 19-year-old girl
01:15:59
Brian Atlasactually she might have been 18 she had a body count over 100 at at 18 oh poor thing yeah and uh she that was on her
01:16:09
Brian Atlasthat was on her uh but uh saying poor thing for her future Partners yeah poor poor them poor the future Partners uh okay so and I'm trying to think because I
01:16:22
Brian Atlasmean I've heard I you know I'm from Santa Barbara So for those watching who aren't familiar with the area we have UCSB here we have Santa Barbara City College UCSB is frequently ranked the
01:16:32
Brian Atlasnumber one party school in the United States we have the ISA Vista area which is basically a square mile where you have like 20 30,000 students crammed
01:16:42
Brian Atlasinto an area less the size less of a less than the size of a square mes sorry and uh you know bunch of parties Etc and a lot of drinking drugs
01:16:57
Brian AtlasEtc some girls be putting up 40 bodies their freshman their first freshman semester or quarter depending which school you go
01:17:06
Brian Atlasto so maybe putting up bodies so to answer picco Stein's thing uh I think you should move I think
01:17:18
Brian Atlasyou should move because there's a lot of uh you know infl if you know what I mean in in the US so you got to go to you know an Asian country or actually I
01:17:29
Brian Atlasdon't know not Latin America definitely not Latin America Asia yeah go I think or you could go to the bingo hall here in America you know you said
01:17:41
Brian Atlasyou're 50 that might be a little outside of your you know check out the bingo hall there's some lovely Granny's over there okay all right so we're going to oh actually before we get
01:17:54
Brian Atlasinto the pre-show notes that some of you guys provided i' like to start things off an hour and 15 minutes into the
01:18:03
Brian Atlaspodcast does anybody here disagree with anything that you've heard or seen on the podcast some of you have maybe seen the podcast before and I love to I I I
01:18:15
Brian Atlasthink a good jumping off point is to hear from anybody who disagrees with anything maybe you've seen a clip from Q here who's gone viral on the internet that uh several times so anybody disagree with anything if you've seen if
01:18:27
Jordanyou've seen anything I do okay we'll start with you go ahead I want to start off by saying I do agree with most of what you say sure sure um but I see a
01:18:39
Jordancontradiction in something that you say um you mentioned you're not a fan of casual sex you don't partake in casual sex I think that's great um but you did
01:18:50
Jordanalso mention in another podcast I don't remember which one that you wouldn't mind having sex on the first date yep now yep in my view mhm having sex on the
01:19:01
Jordanfirst date would be considered casual sex maybe your definition is depends on the def definition right yeah so maybe yours is considered a hookup right so you don't plan to follow through you
01:19:12
Jordandon't plan to maybe see that person again it's literally just a hookup but then some people can hook up multiple times right so then I don't know what that is that's gray area I suppose um um
01:19:23
Jordanbut I think you do partake in casual sex if you are willing to do it on the first date because you're not in a relationship my definition is casual sex
01:19:33
Brian Atlasmeans having sex with somebody that you're not in a committed relationship with sure well first off I think it's certainly important to Define exactly what casual sex is it's sort of a vague
01:19:46
Brian Atlasnebulous term and people can Define that differently in the same way that for example someone might uh might describe I'm trying to think of a
01:19:56
Brian Atlassomewhat similar example uh promiscuity someone might Define promiscuity as you know having a new sexual partner every week someone might just Define
01:20:06
Brian Atlaspromiscuity as dressing somewhat revealing um so and I'm not even sure and I could be wrong on this but I typically when my
01:20:16
Brian Atlasobjections really stem from promiscuity is it possible that I replaced prom MCU with casual sex so I'm not sure if I've actually ever used the term me being against casual sex but
01:20:29
Brian AtlasI'll take your word for it I'll say I did use it m so it's possible that I potentially used it erroneously uh but to so I'm I don't
01:20:39
Brian Atlashave any objections to people having sex rather early on and if that means having sex the first time you you're meeting someone I don't object to that where I
01:20:49
Brian Atlasperhaps differ on this is that if I have sex with somebody I want to continue seeing them so if I choose to have sex with somebody I have a genuine interest
01:20:59
Brian Atlasin continuing to see them with the hope of it developing into a long-term relationship I don't want to have a one night stand I don't want to have sex once or twice and then never see the
01:21:11
Brian Atlasgirl again if I have sex with you I want to keep seeing you I want there to be a continuity so only thing that differentiates it is your intention I think yes it would be intention because for example I've I've gotten feedback
01:21:23
Brian Atlasfrom people I got a message from somebody who um and I've heard from a couple people who've said this that their current spouse their current long-term uh partner that they've been
01:21:35
Brian Atlasdating for years they're married have kids they're tell me oh yeah you know I had sex the first we had sex the first time meeting uh so yeah I don't have any
01:21:46
Jordanissue with with you know if you're going to you know have sex with somebody on first date that's totally toally your choice I think that's giving way too much to them for literally just sitting
01:21:58
Brian Atlasdown having a meal quick question for you on that who's giving too much to who I think the woman is giving way too much to the man woman now why is that because
01:22:08
Brian Atlaswe're The Gatekeepers of sex okay so you don't view sex as an equal value exchange you think men are getting if it
01:22:17
Brian Atlasdespite both Partners getting sex you view that as the man getting more than the woman yeah because I think once you
01:22:27
Jordanhave sex with a man you you're I guess the chase the value of that woman gets a little bit depleted cuz I think once you give it to him then
01:22:39
Jordanit's like okay now he's experienced it what's so what's so uh special about you now I mean I mean obviously he can still find something special but but my point
01:22:51
Jordanis is like I think in the Bible it says a woman We Are The Gatekeepers of sex right so I agree with that yeah so what I'm saying is I think the woman is giving too much to the man
01:23:02
Brian Atlason the first date because because he can just have sex with her and choose to not see her again oh that was easy on to the next yes that's true and um look and I'm not saying I need to have sex on the
01:23:14
TTS/Donationsfirst day grid One Motorsports donated $100 wow my wife of 18 years and I had sex after the first de nothing casual about
01:23:25
TTS/Donationsit there is a difference between casual sex and promiscuity and being a come dump sto Village bicycle okay so grid One Motorsports thank you grid one that's a good point
01:23:36
Brian Atlasyou made look look at this exhibit a grid One Motorsports sex on the first night he's married he's kids he's rich I think it worked out for him Chad doesn't
01:23:48
Brian Atlaswork out for everybody though sure but I think you can have I mean certainly look on from the woman's
01:23:58
Brian Atlasperspective if you're choosing to have sex with a guy and you know there's no prospects of a long-term relationship then part of that falls on the woman and
01:24:09
Brian Atlasalso you can kind of you know talk to the guy get a sense of where he's at you can have this conversation before you have sex with him now look I I'm not saying that you need to have sex with
01:24:22
Brian AtlasGod State and if if you want to wait that's certainly your prerogative um but for example like here's something very simple for women to do to mitigate or reduce the risk even if you are so
01:24:35
Brian Atlasinclined to sleep with a guy on the first date uh to to reduce the risk that he's just trying to hit it so first off if you're traveling don't men when you're traveling because well obviously
01:24:45
Brian Atlasjust logistically speaking if he lives in Germany and you meet in the Netherland lens and you're leaving in 2 weeks he's leaving tomorrow there's no
01:24:55
Brian Atlaslong-term prospects there a lot of women be traveling and just dudes so but it's not clear to me if women are going traveling in dudes and having any expectation of there being a
01:25:07
Brian Atlaslong-term relationship don't dude don't go well okay let me don't go to bars and clubs period but if you're so inclined certainly don't sleep with men that you meet out while intoxicated
01:25:19
Brian Atlaswhile either he's intoxicated you're intoxicated or both any sort of sex that occurs with alcohol involved is greatly diminishes the chance that that could lead not necessarily it could you know
01:25:31
Brian Atlasyou could still end up in a relationship with this guy but greater likelihood that that's going to be end up being a casual encounter uh so there shouldn't be alcohol involved prefer preferably it
01:25:41
Brian Atlasshould you shouldn't meet contextually in a party type environment bar club Etc um if he's from out of town if he's not tied to your Geographic region it's
01:25:53
Brian Atlasprobably not a good idea to just the dude because you know it's low likelihood that I think one of the big
01:26:01
Brian Atlasthings to help a relationship proceed is convenience if you guys live close close I think that makes things a lot easier
01:26:10
Jordanromantically speaking um so so wouldn't you say that if you had a first date with you had a first date you guys had
01:26:20
Jordansex okay yeah but then she doesn't see you again wouldn't that just be a spruced up hookup but it just included a
01:26:29
Brian Atlasmeal huh that's funny that you'd think I'd get a meal for her but wait what or whatever you guys did I don't know but it it had so you're saying we okay we but she doesn't want to see me
01:26:41
Brian Atlasokay that's a l for her that's a major L for her she doesn't want to see me again like I didn't put a down right is that I agree I agree with
01:26:53
Q (Jquan)no sometimes these girls like even if you put it down right they they fur the streets yeah but yeah but I look at it more from a I mean there's a lot of neurochemistry at play I mean a lot of times we forget how the how the human
01:27:06
Q (Jquan)brain functions this at the end of the day it has the ultimate say it's in control so if you put it down and she's releasing oxytocin she's coming back she's going to she's going to be thinking about you yeah she'll probably come back come I'm saying most guys
01:27:18
Q (Jquan)though I would say like women might be calling back but the men might just ghost but on the on the same token women typically don't orgasm from having sex with a guy that they don't know the more you get to know a guy the more you date a guy the more you got the more time you
01:27:31
Q (Jquan)guys have spent together the more sex you have the more likely you are to orgasm and that creates deeper attachment but I wanted to um um hint on what you said about his intention intention matters because intention is
01:27:43
Q (Jquan)objective I can do the same thing normally it comes down to how attracted I am to the woman if I find the woman extremely attractive whether we have sex on on the first night doesn't matter I'm attracted to her so I want to continue
01:27:55
Q (Jquan)to see her over and over and essentially that's just going to make me want to be with her especially if she has a personality that is conducive to a healthy relationship and it aligns with who I am so the common dating pattern is
01:28:07
Q (Jquan)we sleep together before we get in a relationship in most cases because Chastity and women being virgins is long gone so a lot of men don't want to wait to have sex with a woman who didn't wait
01:28:18
Q (Jquan)to have sex with the guy before her so um MH you know it's it's essentially a trial run do we like each other are our bodies you know sexually compatible in a
01:28:29
Q (Jquan)sense like do I enjoy having sex with you is there something I can gauge from having sex with you it's just acting on attraction that's basically what it boils down to that's all it is so but there's no way you love this woman on the first date I mean that's purely
01:28:42
Q (Jquan)lustful right if you're having sex on the first on the first date it it is it is it is lustful but at the same time there's no guarantee that you're not going to not see each other again either
01:28:53
Jordanyeah and I think there's there everybody should have their own timeline my point is is like you can go on a million first aides and have you know sex with every single guy on the first date and I think
01:29:04
Jordanif if it also depends on what the guy wants and the woman if a guy wants and a woman somebody who is a virgin which I know Brian mentioned the closer you are to a virgin like the better right
01:29:16
Jordanmhm I mean as somebody who would be a virgin I don't think she would have sex with you on the first date unless you were just like super duper special um because more than likely she's had that
01:29:28
Jordanopportunity many times and isn't just going to randomly have sex with you on the first date she's probably going to wait and she's she because she values herself and because she knows okay if you want to continue to see me then see me I'm going to hold on to sex until
01:29:40
Brian Atlaswe're ready yeah and that's fine look and I certainly realize if she's a virgin not a born again virgin uh that
01:29:50
Brian Atlasuh I suppose I yes but you know they you can be born again but it doesn't raise your past um I'm not yeah I certainly probably am
01:30:01
Brian Atlasnot going in with the expectation that a virgin is going to want to have sex on the first date but um he probably question if she really is
01:30:09
Brian Atlasone uh not I mean not I don't know if I would I might question I might question a little bit but I don't know have I I don't think
01:30:21
JordanI've I've been with a oh I don't want to reveal have you ever been with somebody she says she's a virgin but then you look at her and you're like I don't know based off the conversation you're like I think you're I think you're
01:30:34
Brian Atlaslying uh I don't think I've had a girl lie about being a virgin but okay I've dated a few um I'll just say that yeah typically sex does not occur on the
01:30:44
Brian Atlasfirst date in that situation okay but it's also not like necessarily a six-month thing either right it can
01:30:53
Brian Atlashappen let's just say between 3 to 10 Dates typically okay how about a week and a half I'm revealing too many details okay how about a week and a half
01:31:05
Q (Jquan)week and a half a week and a half my last girlfriend was a virgin she was 22 took her about a week and a half before we had sex no pressure from me but
01:31:14
Brian Atlasthat's how attracted she was to me good for you so congrats buddy uh um
01:31:23
TTS/Donationsso wait okay go so grid One Motorsports donated $100 this is why it is important to date
01:31:33
TTS/Donationswith intent and not just hook up men and women have gotten far too casual and callous in the dating pool and that needs to change the patriarchy stands
01:31:44
Brian Atlasready yo grid One Motorsports thank you and I I guess really to answer your question though is for I think your initial question was sort of a definitional one well how do
01:31:57
Jordanwe Define casual sex guess I guess I was trying to get like the actual definition because I think we just have different ones and I think that's okay um but that would be that's kind of where I maybe felt a contradiction sure cuz you said
01:32:09
Brian Atlasyou didn't believe in casual sex but yeah yeah I mean I'm I think you can sleep with someone relatively quickly but also not be promiscuous so if you have a good read
01:32:19
Brian Atlason the person and you you yourself as an individual for if you're a woman you want a long-term relationship you've done a bit of an assessment on the guy is okay is this
01:32:31
Brian Atlasguy a boy blah blah blah look sometimes you get bamboozled women will get bamboozled the guy will say he wants something long term it was all it was
01:32:40
Brian Atlasall he was selling you the dream it was uh but if the guy seems genuine with his intentions and also there's this whole Trope of well if you sleep sleep with the guy too quick he's not going to
01:32:53
Brian Atlasrespect you and what otherwise would have turned into a long-term monogamous relationship uh had you waited a bit longer oh now he just ghosted you after
01:33:04
Brian Atlashe you once no the reality is is that it doesn't it doesn't occur to me that if you make a guy wait that's going to guarantee you a
01:33:14
Brian Atlaslong-term relationship with this guy and if the guy let's say you let's say okay same guy and in two separate universes right in one Universe you sleep with him on the first date in Another Universe you sleep with him on the third in
01:33:28
Brian AtlasAnother Universe you sleep with him on the fifth day whatever um it's plausible that regardless of which decision you choose you would ultimately still end up
01:33:38
Jordanin a long-term relationship with him so I can attest to that okay so I actually did have sex with my now husband very early on no no no no I'm not a I'm not
01:33:51
Jordansaying yeah yeah I don't think you're against it necessarily no I'm not saying that I'm against it I was trying to find the definition I'm not saying I was against it how um I but I would say generally
01:34:02
Jordanspeaking casual sex is not good generally speaking however let me make this very clear I don't I wouldn't consider it casual sex because we knew
01:34:12
Jordaneach other for a very very very long time wait how how soon because you said pretty early early on um
01:34:24
Brian Atlasthe third date yeah that's fine there's nothing wrong with that in his car not the ideal you didn't ask for that not the ideal venue not the ideal
01:34:35
Brian Atlasvenue what there wasn't a bed available me in a car yeah Mercedes H okay cool move on I no I'm not what do you guys think
01:34:47
Maddie Ruabout car sex I'm not a fan honestly just give me a bed it's just about the vibe honestly I have car sex like last week and it was so nice so that was your
01:34:58
Brian Atlaslast time the angle cuz I drove a truck and he didn't have a car so anyways is this the guy who wait it was yeah your guy doesn't have a car but for some Reon is he like a bike guy
01:35:10
Q (Jquan)like he bikes places like saving the environment type situation okay bro all right I'm I'm traumatized by car sex cuz I think I told you what happened when last time when I had car sex how I
01:35:22
Q (Jquan)got stuck oh I got you want to tell us a story real quick yeah um I'll tell y'all a story I had car sex with the girl that I was seeing um we was at a family event it was around Christmas time she came to
01:35:33
Q (Jquan)Christmas with my family and she wanted to have sex but we couldn't have sex because it was a house full of people so she she text me next to me like I'm horny I was like okay so I had to tell everybody like listen we about to run to
01:35:45
Q (Jquan)the store I'm in South Carolina in the middle of nowhere so I got I'm in the back country country roads so I try to find find somewhere to pull over my dumb ass goes on the dirt road after it just rain hella mud puddles and my immediate
01:35:57
Q (Jquan)thought was we might get bog down in the mud so drove on the back road tried to back out after we did what
01:36:06
Q (Jquan)we did got bog down for 4 hours in the mud called 911 911 said to Tru uh they couldn't send it a dispatcher out because I was too far in the boonies and
01:36:18
Q (Jquan)the tow truck company was like we don't have any trucks in the area so I was stuck trying to get my car off the mud doing everything I could scariest scariest most anxious moment of my life
01:36:31
Q (Jquan)I'm like yo how the we going to get out and then lo and behold as I'm walking back to my car from the street cuz I was trying to find a signal I didn't even have service trying to find a signal there was a shadow coming
01:36:43
Q (Jquan)towards my car and I thought I was seeing and it was a white guy with a shotgun and I was and I I saw a sign that said private property
01:36:52
Q (Jquan)and he was like what are you doing back here and I was like a I'm like sir we we stuck can you can you help us you know I didn't tell him what we was doing
01:37:04
Q (Jquan)but luckily he had some he had something that could pull us out and that's how I got out after about 5 hours so scary so I'm traumatized by car sex I don't have car sex anymore because of that yeah I
01:37:14
Brian Atlasthink when it comes to car sex I for me personally I'd rather like if the option is to have sex to not have sex in a car
01:37:23
Brian AtlasI'd rather just not you know really yeah I'd rather just not it's kind of like well I could go really far with this one but you can just go oral
01:37:34
Brian Atlasit's it's kind of like okay Q maybe I want you to weigh on this too you know like you ever been hooking up with a girl and she's
01:37:44
Brian Atlaslike well I I could give you a hand job and it's like I'd rather just not have anything to be honest at if it's like if
01:37:55
Brian Atlasnothing versus a hand job I'm good I think I'm okay I'm just never mind you know that's fair or they even want to give you one in any cap I don't even
01:38:07
Q (Jquan)want one in any scenario yeah like by itself hello why is that even like no just no yeah I'm good yeah hand jobs aren't really they don't really do not yeah
01:38:20
Q (Jquan)they they're not no I've only had one my whole life and that was that was walking down the hallway in high school my I was walking down the hallway in high school and my girlfriend was in front of me and she
01:38:31
Q (Jquan)had reached back like in my pants and was like giving me a hand job as we walk surprise yeah oh yeah you ever have one like when you're sitting
01:38:41
Jordanat a table and it's like under the table they try I stop don't you feel like guys already give themselves hand jobs when they self pleasure uh
01:38:52
Jordanwait what don't guys give themsel hand jobs yeah when they self pleasuring yeah so maybe that's maybe they're like hey I
01:39:03
Jordanalready I'm already used to this this is lame I want something different maybe that's why I just don't think y'all know what you're doing what we're doing yeah
01:39:13
Brian Atlaswe don't have a women often complain men can't find the y'all don't know how to do that H why are you looking at me I don't know
01:39:26
Brian AtlasI'm okay yeah normally I we don't get two sexual talks into the show oh y like working out get Shake Weight yeah shake my I don't know about like Shake we okay
01:39:37
Brian AtlasI guess I'll get a little graphic for some like you can't go over the the head like girls will
01:39:45
Maddie Rulike dry no like you can't not dry go over the head at least no it has to be it has to be on the shaft if you're going to do a handy
01:39:57
Brian Atlaseven then still don't give me one but like you're telling me yeah I'm giving you instructions she knows I've given you instructions bro they trying to like you watch my videos or what you like
01:40:09
Brian Atlaswhat you saw don't you can't like rub the head okay whatever moving on yeah guys go to twitch.tv/ drop us a follow drop us a prime sub guys if you're on Twitch the streaming quality there is f
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01:40:44
Brian Atlasabout waiting for sex so I have a question have any of the girls here going around the table starting with you you had and this is a chronological question so think chronologically have
01:40:55
Brian Atlasyou ever chronologically speaking had sex with a guy relatively quickly perhaps
01:41:04
Brian Atlaseven a couple guys relatively quickly and then you you know you you stumble across a man maybe you like him es especially a
01:41:15
Brian Atlaslot those other guys though you had sex with them quick first night an hour after after meeting in the bathroom at that nightclub behind the dumpster of the
01:41:27
Brian Atlasbar at the Frat party whatever it is you had sex relatively quickly then you meet a guy and then oh you like this one oh no hold
01:41:36
Maddie Ruon I think we should wait three months have you ever done that um oh sorry I would say I
01:41:47
Maddie Rudidn't go back and forth on it like when I broke with my ex like last year over a year ago now is when I started like waiting to sleep with people and then I
01:41:59
Maddie Rujust ended up not sleeping with anyone because after like a few months or yeah whatever I just wouldn't like them um and then I kind of got over it and then
01:42:11
Maddie RuI found with the guy that I actually did have sex with I it was like I don't know why but I just like had no respect for him and so I just figured it would be fine wait one sec
01:42:24
Brian Atlasreally quick we're gonna continue with this question I just need to read this before it falls off Alberta Sovereign donated Canadian 50 Maddie can you read it it's bad because guys are being shamed to hell for looking at girls in
01:42:36
Maddie Ruthe gym then they do this Brian you better not French me Q is great but I miss Chase of Base keep fighting the good finding the good keep fighting the
01:42:49
Brian Atlasgood fight I think he meant to say hey Berta Sovereign thank you man appreciate it uh and yes Q is great thank you man appreciate it uh so continuing on oh
01:42:58
Maddie Ruokay so he was kind of like it was low stakes emotionally like I knew it was it was good for business and emotionally it was low Stak so that's why I think I slept with him
01:43:13
Misra/Kendall/Kylaokay um I have but it was more like there was a different reason of me not having sex
01:43:24
Brian Atlaswhat was the reason I was going to therapy cuz I had a sex addiction oh you got a sex addiction I used to used to does that
01:43:35
Brian Atlasdoes it ever go away a sex addiction canot go away um can you tell us a bit about your sex addiction what would you like to know
01:43:46
Brian Atlashow did it manifest itself um um that's like deeper stuff but we love deep deep is great for the whatever
01:43:59
TTS/Donationspodcast saved ctin donated $17 him watching in restro active time I meant what info can I get/ give to
01:44:10
TTS/Donationsprovide my young daughters in the current sorry badly worded question not me I am married for 17
01:44:19
Brian Atlasyears uh advice to your young daughters H H uh how young did he say how young they
01:44:29
Brian Atlaswere he said 12 and 14 I oh dude they don't get smartphones until they're 18 they don't get any social
01:44:39
Brian Atlasmedia they can have a pager dude give them a pager at probably too late if they already have smartphones you got to burn them in front of them and be like this is the work of the devil they canot not have
01:44:50
Brian Atlassmartphones until they're 18 they can't have social media till they're 18 uh private school consider you know what else uh try to keep them living in the
01:45:03
Brian Atlashousehold for as long as possible uh what else and uh because I here's the thing like I think when it comes to picking a
01:45:15
Brian Atlasgood man your brothers and your fathers are going to give you the best advice and be able to help you screen out dudes no offense left to your own devices you're going to pick the boy you're
01:45:26
Brian Atlasgoing to pick the bad boy who's going to ultimately treat you like rack you with trauma and then you're probably depending on how bad it is you're probably thoroughly uh for
01:45:38
Brian Atlasyour whole no I'm just kidding maybe not for your whole life but um you should seek the advice of your fathers and brothers when it comes to men
01:45:53
Brian Atlasyou guys clearly disagree with that take can can you guys give me a little I mean maybe you agree I don't know don't just if you disagree with something don't just sit there quietly and be like this misogynistic piece of but I'm
01:46:04
Brian Atlasnot going to say anything actually engage with the conversation like not having the phones and stuff and well I mean anything but I mean that's my advice first I if you know if if and when I have uh
01:46:16
Brian Atlaskids uh yeah you're not you're not getting a smartphone till you're 18 you're not going to be on social media so you're 18 I it depends depends on you don't need a smartphone I grew up
01:46:25
Brian Atlaswithout a I'm 34 I didn't have a I had a flip phone I'm very lucky that I I was I think in my senior year of high school my space was just becoming a thing yeah I know it sounds like I'm a
01:46:36
JordanBoomer here but yeah but you were not a teenager in 2024 it is not 2024 oh I don't give a what I don't give a what the other kids in school maybe they have a phone but not a smartphone
01:46:48
Brian Atlasmaybe they can have one of those phones where you C num where you can maybe a flip phone if you're lucky I know if they sell pagers like that yeah I know I'm being a bit fous so there's no way
01:46:58
Brian Atlasmaybe they can have maybe they can have like a phone agree no social media I think social media toxic that's why I don't have all social media twitters and
01:47:08
Maddie Ruexcuse me sorry baned private schools always go wrong all the roles that I know that went to private school end up private school oh
01:47:18
Brian Atlasno okay then home school I don't know um I mean I would keep them off social media to be honest yeah no social media but a phone for safety mhm yeah that's fine but no smartphone because then they
01:47:30
Jordancan access all that that's true you get you get a flip phone yeah flip phone that's that's right FP phone do flip phone uh
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Q (Jquan)yeah I don't know that's my advice when it comes to dating I tell them I tell them don't fall into um hedonistic behaviors uh seeking instant gratification I would tell them that
01:47:55
Q (Jquan)don't fall into believing in the concept of soulmates the one don't be aligning astrology signs all of that they witcraft yeah don't don't yeah
01:48:05
Q (Jquan)witchcraft witchcraft witchcraft definely let's add witchcraft in there um men are not their enemies uh they have to have some accountability for the guys that they choose in their lives
01:48:17
Q (Jquan)don't be afraid to discipline them and let them know that you don't prove of the gentlemen that they bring home especially if you feel that their values don't align uh there's a lot of things there as as a father like Brian said you have to be the one you're going to have
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Q (Jquan)the biggest influence on who they date um if they have brothers I'm not sure he didn't say they had Brothers but yeah yeah but well as a father you're literally your daughter's like you're
01:48:40
Jordanshowing your daughter what how a man should treat you right so I couldn't get the words out um so I mean you have a big job you have two daughters that are
01:48:51
Jordanlike at that prime age where it's like comparisons of you know the the thief of Joy so that's why the social media thing is so big cuz you see girls who are like
01:49:01
Jordanyou know at the epitome of vanity and like wanting to look so beautiful like you know be skinny be thick whatever like so I think it has a bad influence on how like women think that's why
01:49:14
Jordanthere's so many women with eating disorders that's why there's women who want to you know go and get so much plastic surgery that's why you know girls want to like outdo the next so I
01:49:25
Jordanthink honestly just show her show your daughters that they are beautiful and they are designed how God intended to design them and just show them how a man
01:49:36
Jordanshould treat them so that way you're actually proud and happy with who they choose because they're going to choose the right person because everything that you instilled in them through their
01:49:47
Megan Robinsonchildhood you have a big big job to do I 100% agree with everything you said and I think another really important thing to do when you're raising kids is teach
01:49:58
Megan Robinsonthem accountability for what is happening in their lives because all of the internal thoughts and beliefs that we hold about ourselves get reflected in the external world so if some guy is
01:50:10
Megan Robinsonshowing up in your life and he's not treating you well you have a core foundational belief that's not in alignment with who you're trying to
01:50:18
Megan Robinsonbecome so really getting people aware of the power that we have with our thoughts and this is what I teach in my
01:50:28
Brian Atlascoaching too that's good in the atlas household it's going to be the 1800s you're going to be working on the farm no I'm just kidding uh no
01:50:40
Brian Atlasinternet oh no internet too maybe like a censored version The Atlas censorship you parental controls maybe you can like Wikipedia is way too
01:50:52
Brian Atlaswoke maybe you can like Google historical articles about World War II I'll allow her to you know but like you know you know books it has I'm going to
01:51:03
Brian AtlasI'm going to procure it's going to be the atlas internet there's going to be historical things on there you can learn about