CONFRONTING Viral Gym E-girl! 50 Body Count At 21?! Makeup DEBATE! ( ° °) | Dating Talk #139
Date: 2024-02-28
Duration: 7h 18m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS/Donations(audience)
SPEAKER_02Maddie Ru(guest)
SPEAKER_03Misra/Kendall/Kyla(guest)
SPEAKER_04Gym man (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_05Maddie gym (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_07Joey Swole (clip)(audience)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_10Kayla(guest)
SPEAKER_11Q (Jquan)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Music/Clips(audience)
SPEAKER_13Jordan(guest)
SPEAKER_14Megan Robinson(guest)
Key Moments
00:00:11
IntroBrian Atlas opens show; introduces himself and co-host Kiki.
“welcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast... I am your host Brian Atlas I'm joined by my co-host Kiki back there she's a bit shy”
00:03:30
IntroMaddie Ru introduces herself: 21, OnlyFans creator, Orange County CA. Viral gym e-girl.
“hi I'm Maddie Ru I'm 21 I do only fans... California... Orange County”
00:04:14
IntroMisra introduces: 21, former OnlyFans, originally Izmir Turkey, currently Riverside CA.
“misra um 21 and I did only fans um I'm in between right now... originally turkey but right now Riverside... ismir”
00:04:58
IntroMegan Robinson introduces: 22, mindset coaching business, podcast 'Lessons in Self-Love', Washington DC.
“my name is Megan Robinson I have a mindset coaching business and I have a podcast called lessons in selflove I'm 22 years old and I'm from Washington DC”
00:05:42
IntroKayla introduces: 30, Las Vegas, stripper/author/starting real estate.
“my name is Kayla um I'm 30 I live in Las Vegas um I'm a stripper an author and I'm also starting real estate”
00:06:02
IntroJordan introduces: 25, married, owns private gym in Riverside with husband, personal trainer.
“hi thank you for having me my name is Jordan I'm 25 my husband and I own a private gym in Riverside we also do personal training online coaching entrepreneur I'm a wife and a dog mom”
00:06:25
IntroQ (Jquan) introduces: 31, behavioral scientist, certified relationship coach, YouTuber, author.
“Q uh the Q behavioral scientist certified relationship coach YouTuber entrepreneur author age 31 government name jquan”
00:28:00
Key MomentBrian confirms viral gym video was scheduled before it went viral — Maddie was invited back 2-3 weeks prior to the viral incident.
“she's been on before and I actually reached out to you to invite you back before the whole viral thing like we had scheduled you to be on today's show like two weeks ago”
00:29:52
Key MomentMaddie asks whether adding bounce to the squat was deliberate — admits she added it because it looked sexual when filmed. Posted with caption 'wondering when I'm going to be recognized from my leg day warmup'.
“I realized that it looked kind of sexual and so I started adding like a bounce to it... I started filming it for reels... I always put that clip with a caption that says wondering when I'm going to be recognized from my leg day warmup”
00:50:11
Key MomentQ argues Maddie was eliciting a sexual response deliberately and played innocent with 'I can't believe I'm not allowed to stretch' caption.
“it's the Innocence it's the position of Innocence that you took... you've already stated that that's what you were trying to do overtly... that's what you were doing”
01:35:00
QuoteMisra reveals Turkish ex cheated on her 33-36 times; she moved to Turkey for him.
“he cheated on me like I think 36 times... I moved to Turkey for him though that's why”
01:36:00
Key MomentMisra reveals sex addiction: approximately 30 partners in one year during first year of college (age 19), after Turkish ex cheated on her ~36 times. Therapist diagnosed sex addiction.
“I would say like probably 30... I would say one year... I went to therapy cuz my friends actually made me cuz I was actually having like a really bad problem and then he was like I think you have a sex addiction”
02:07:00
Key MomentBrian's core argument: women who make a new man wait while having slept with others quickly are presenting a false standard. The McDonald's $1000 cheeseburger analogy.
“everyone in the restaurant paid $1 for a cheeseburger... I get to the front of the line ask for a cheeseburger and the clerk looks at me and says it's $1,000 for you sir”
02:18:00
Key MomentQ reads his viral list of concerns about women with high body counts: oxytocin depletion, pair bonding damage, hidden STIs, divorce correlation, paternity uncertainty.
“i'd be concerned about the long-term benefits of dealing with promiscuous women I'd be concerned about your oxytocin receptors densified to the point where you can't effectively parabond... increased risk of divorce... paternity uncertainty which means a promiscuous woman is more likely to cuck you”
04:00:00
Key MomentJordan removes makeup on camera during makeup debate to test Brian's claim that women look better without it.
“I'm going to take it off and then you're going to like lower my rating just to be rude... I'm not... take my word for it”
04:03:00
QuoteBrian rates Jordan after she removes makeup: says she looks attractive with or without makeup.
“I tend to think women are look as good or sometimes better without makeup uh I think you're an attractive women woman with or without makeup”
05:09:40
Key MomentGirls rate Puffy Vegas (regular donor) on his Instagram photos. Ratings: Maddie: 2, Misra: 3, one guest: 1.5, another: 0. Brian objects to 0.
“rate him on a scale of 1 to 10... two... three... 1.5... a zero... what the f... zero would be like significant facial asymmetry like deformity”
06:08:20
Key MomentBrian proposes 'legal paternal surrender' — if abortion is legal, men should be able to legally wave parental rights and child support obligation within a time window.
“I think men should have a corresponding right called Legal paternal surrender... if the woman gets pregnant and he can make some sort of legal election to not be financially responsible he can wave his parental rights”
06:37:00
Key MomentMaddie reveals she reported her ex to the government for disability fraud (he was faking a disability to avoid getting a job while she considered buying him a car and paying for therapy).
“I've reported my ex for disability fraud and sent in videos of us to the government... he was lying to me about having a job he was faking disability”
06:37:50
ControversyKayla admits to slashing tires, throwing bricks at cars, putting sugar in gas tanks, and hitting partners (all directed at cheating men). She is bipolar.
“I have sliced tires I have thrown bricks and cars I put sugars in tank... I've hit... I'm bipolar... and I've done that in more than one person”
Topics Discussed
00:00:11
Show intro and guest introductions
Brian Atlas opens from Santa Barbara. Introduces co-host Kiki. Guests introduce: Maddie Ru (21, OnlyFans, OC CA), Misra (21, Turkey/Riverside, former OF), Megan Robinson (22, DC, mindset coach), Kendall (19, SBCC, San Diego), Kayla (30, Las Vegas, stripper/author), Kyla (18, SBCC, Santa Barbara), Jordan (25, Riverside, gym owner, married), Q/Jquan (31, behavioral scientist/coach).
00:10:00
Relationship status round
Brian goes around table: Maddie single ~1 week (celibacy claim); Misra in new relationship 1 week (Turkish BF moved from Turkey); Megan in relationship 10 months, premarital counseling (no sex until marriage); Kendall in relationship 1 month (frat boy); Kayla single ~2 years (one child, ex trying to return); Kyla unknown; Jordan married 6 months (together 6 years); Q single.
00:18:20
Maddie Ru gym viral video discussion
Brian and panel discuss Maddie's viral plie squat video at LA Fitness (~300M views). The video: man approached, kicked her phone, she posted captioned 'I can't believe I'm not allowed to stretch at the gym'. Discussion of whether it was staged, whether exercise is legitimate, whether it was sexually provocative. Joey Swole reaction video played — he says both were wrong: man shouldn't touch property, but woman was deliberately sexual. Brian notes Maddie's pattern of sexual gym captions pre-dating the viral incident. Q argues she was eliciting sexual responses for attention/money.
00:56:00
Makeup debate: deception or enhancement
Discussion of whether makeup is deceptive. Q argues it can constitute legal action (joking). Jordan removes makeup on camera. Brian says he thinks women often look as good or better without makeup; compliments Jordan. Maddie also takes off most of her makeup on camera — Brian says there's still some remaining. Discussion: women do makeup for other women as much as for men; beauty industry is 90% women; men find hard-to-achieve body standards (require gym/steroids) more demanding than female beauty standard (which just requires low body fat).
01:11:40
Beauty standards: men vs women body expectations
Brian argues male beauty standard (superhero physique: Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Henry Cavill) is harder to achieve than female beauty standard (Scarlett Johansson, Gal Gadot). Men need elite genetics + years in gym +/- steroids. Women can achieve aspirational body through diet alone. Jordan (trainer) partially disagrees: women must maintain through workout too; hormonal changes make it harder over time. Maddie raises that birth control makes women more attracted to feminine men. Photos of thin men vs thin women shown; panel debates.
01:22:00
Height and physical appearance preferences
Brian asks everyone's height and minimum male height requirements. Heights: Maddie 5'10", Megan 5'9", Misra 5'5" (min 5'10"), Kendall 5'3" (as long as taller), Jordan 5'4" (min 5'9"-ish, husband is 5'9.5"), Kyla 5'2 3/4" (min 5'9"). Current/past boyfriend heights listed. Discussion of dating app height filters.
01:30:00
Waiting for sex and body count discussion
Extended discussion: Brian asks whether women who had quick sex with previous partners then make a new guy they like wait is fair. Misra shares she would make a guy wait to avoid losing feelings (as happened during sex addiction period). Brian presents multiple analogies comparing the dynamic (McDonald's $1000 burger; prior dates got 5-star meals but new girl gets McDonald's; etc.). Q reads his viral list of concerns about high body count women: oxytocin depletion, pair bonding damage, hidden STIs, divorce correlation, paternity uncertainty. Panel mostly disagrees with Brian's framing but agrees it's understandable from male perspective. Jordan defends Misra: it's about her healing, not being fair to the guy.
01:34:00
Misra's sex addiction and depression story
Misra reveals that during first year of college (age 19), after her Turkish ex cheated on her ~36 times, she had sex with approximately 30 men (some repeats) in one year. Therapist diagnosed sex addiction at around 10-15 partners. Friends dragged her out to parties; she would drink and hook up; sex provided dopamine relief from depression. Fastest hookup: within first hour of meeting. She was being diagnosed while processing the abandonment/cheating trauma. Panel debates whether 'sex addiction' label is correct vs depression/low self-worth. She now uses sex to cope when very depressed but differently. Current boyfriend knows her history and is supportive.
05:09:40
Ratings: girls rate Puffy Vegas (regular donor)
Puffy Vegas (a regular TTS donor) requests to be rated by the panel based on his Instagram photos. Brian scrolls his Instagram. Ratings: Maddie: 2; Misra: 3; Kyla: 1.5; another panel member: 0. Brian objects to a 0 rating, says 0 would require significant facial deformity.
05:31:10
Q's story: obsessive long-distance hookup
Q tells story of woman he was casually seeing long-distance (Long Island to Philadelphia). She took a bus to see him. After he posted a Spanish lyric about liking Spanish-speaking girls, she called him 54 times consecutively. He answered on the 55th call. She was on a megabus at 2am coming to Philadelphia. They had sex and she left. He never spoke to her again.
06:08:20
Abortion and bodily autonomy debate
Brian argues forced military conscription is a greater bodily autonomy infringement than denying abortion access. Maddie disagrees, says they're similar. Jordan is pro-life: if not ready for motherhood, not ready for sex; adoption is an option. Brian proposes 'legal paternal surrender' as policy that could be bundled with abortion rights. Kayla: had abortion (got pregnant on birth control with abusive partner). Jordan: abortion has lasting mental health impact. Debate on when life begins.
06:15:00
Women's self-assessed dating flaws
Q asks panel what flaws they bring to relationships. Maddie: OnlyFans, sex tapes with other men, social media presence. Misra: moody/hangry, ignores people when mad. Kayla: violent reactions to cheating (slashed tires, bricks in cars, sugar in gas tanks, physical fights) — bipolar. Megan: emotional volatility (working on it). Jordan: needs partner validation on appearance, can have an attitude (improved significantly). Misra reveals revenge story: reported Turkish ex to immigration/his US sponsor after finding out about cheating; filmed it.
06:16:20
Kayla violent behavior story and bipolar discussion
Q asks panel about behavioral flaws. Kayla admits to: slashing tires, throwing bricks at cars, putting sugar in gas tanks, hitting partners. All directed at men who cheated on her. She is bipolar. Panel reacts with shock and humor. Brian says she reminds him of an ex.
06:30:00
What women expect from men they date
Q asks women to list their expectations from partners. Maddie: honesty, transparency, passion/drive, respect. Discussion of whether passion for niche topics (World of Warcraft) counts. Brian goes on extended World of Warcraft tangent (world buff meta for classic WoW).
07:13:20
Wrap-up
Brian wraps the show. Plugs Twitch, Clips Channel, Discord. Show ends.
Transcript
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02:46:39
Misra/Kendall/Kylahow he felt about it well we have very different perspectives um because he's Turkish like he's he was actually raised there which is very
02:46:50
Misra/Kendall/Kyladifferent perspective than like if you like like you two like would have very different perspectives like even like as a guy but um in general we just like don't really talk
02:47:02
Misra/Kendall/Kylaabout it oh okay no um we we have talked about it like completely like once and it was
02:47:13
Misra/Kendall/Kylajust like he knew what I went through so it as he should he was more there for me than worrying
02:47:25
Q (Jquan)about if I gave like the guy before him like head sooner than him you know okay okay I get it yeah but I mean essentially what Brian was just saying he was just trying to get you to
02:47:36
Q (Jquan)understand it from the value value system that's all cuz a lot of women they don't consider the male perspective like why do men well why would you only want to have sex with me and it's like no it's just the principle cuz in in the mind of a lot of men the first thing we
02:47:49
Q (Jquan)think about okay is what have you done with these guys that I have to wait for and then there's also well I don't want to be graphic but when we think about
02:48:00
TTS/Donationswomen having sex truth bomb donated $100 okay cool uh so you're from Minnesota only thing I know is that it's cold break it down how's it compare to
02:48:12
TTS/Donationsliving in La well I can't compare them they're so different you know what I'm
02:48:18
Brian Atlassaying huh huh huh huh
02:48:26
Brian AtlasH somebody from Minnesota here it's a oh who oh what song Little Dicky is that it don't show that Nick I have a question for you see what I mean there yeah yeah
02:48:39
Brian Atlasjust yeah yeah thank you you probably would have caught it I think hopefully hopefully um okay wait I have some more
02:48:51
Q (Jquan)analogies great right great actually you know what you no Q you were saying something yeah I was I was just talking about um I was saying that the uh psychological foundation of the male
02:49:02
Q (Jquan)mind with us valuing sex when you do that what you're saying is essentially what Brian was saying we're not as important because the thing that we value you aren't willing to give it to us we don't really care about what you've been through we care about the
02:49:15
Q (Jquan)fact that these other got it and I'm not getting it that's what we value and it doesn't mean we necessarily only want you for sex but for men sex is
02:49:25
Q (Jquan)what creates and continues a bond so withholding that is something that can obstruct the development of our relationship I have a question for you Q
02:49:37
Brian Atlaslet's say you were uh you didn't really get a thorough background on a girl you were dating and you're you're uh you're engaged or even let's say you're married and you find out no let's say engaged
02:49:49
Brian Atlasright and you find out somehow it never came up in conversation you thought a certain way about the girl but then she somehow you find out that she'd previously slept with a hundred men are
02:50:00
Brian Atlasyou calling the engagement off yeah me too yeah call do you guys object to that do you think that's wrong for us to call off the engagement because she it's wrong it's personal preference it should
02:50:13
Brian Atlashave been disclosed earlier well I I do agree with that I do agree with that but hey some some people I I would say the conversations we have on this podcast where we're talking about
02:50:24
Brian Atlasbody count I hear from a lot of women they say oh I've never had a guy ask me about my body count it never comes up in conversation so I assume a lot of these men are dating women they frankly don't
02:50:35
Brian Atlasknow they don't know and a lot of them it's like ignorance is bliss they don't want to know but if they found out so in that scenario would you object to the guy calling off the engagement breaking
02:50:47
Brian Atlasbreaking off the Rel the relationship he finds out she's previously slept with 100 people I don't understand why that would affect anything well we can get into that in a
02:50:59
Misra/Kendall/Kylabit but you object to the guy breaking it off under those circumstances I don't think it's wrong don't think it's wrong I don't think it's wrong either be honest I think like
02:51:10
Misra/Kendall/KylaI mean if I was a girl and if I was in the exact same situation I would kind of call it off too oh okay what about you I would call it off I would call it off oh you well that's not really so much well
02:51:23
Brian Atlasokay fine that's do you object to the man the man calling it off maybe you might call it off but wait how about a different question without asking what your body count actually is if a guy found out
02:51:35
Brian Atlaswhat your body count was and you guys were engaged let's assume though you you know you didn't spend anything on the wedding right so let's not make it that dramatic he never ask you what your body
02:51:47
Brian Atlascount is but somehow it comes up in conversation and he's like whoa I thought differently of you whatever your body count is right and he calls it off would you feel like that was an un
02:51:59
Brian Atlasunfair unjustified breakup my current body count or with with can you say that again like are you saying if if you're da guy you're dating a guy whatever your current body count
02:52:10
Brian Atlasis you've been dating him for a year you're engaged yeah he finds out somehow whether you tell him he finds out from other people and he's like whoa that's a bit too high for me I I'm actually
02:52:21
Maddie Rureconsidering this relationship I think we should break up um Fair unfair I it depends on how high the body count in whatever yours is oh yeah no I
02:52:32
Maddie Ruwould say then have fun finding someone like with lower it's you know what I mean it's there's not that many girls with lower so no there's a lot but you know what
02:52:43
Maddie RuI'm not that high so I wouldn't say I would say that he's probably going to have to find a virgin
02:52:55
Megan Robinsonokay I disagree okay I would respect that person even more I think okay I mean he dumps you because of your current body
02:53:06
Kaylacount I'd be like oh oh oh that's it okay cool just oh um later I think I would I would respect
02:53:18
Jordanhim too okay I would just be like okay that's your problem um I would not object to it but honestly he seriously should have passed away before the
02:53:30
Jordanengagement I think that's honestly his fault for not doing due diligence to begin with but I would not object to it
02:53:38
Brian Atlasyeah H I think that is fair like if it is a if it is a deal break like a a huge deal breaker for you
02:53:47
Brian Atlasthen maybe you should ask sooner rather than later all but how many how many like y'all have been in relationships right of all the relationships you've
02:53:58
Maddie Rubeen in how often is it is that a conversation like you disclose like you talk about yeah I 10 other dudes i' I'd say most of them but um I've only
02:54:10
Maddie Rubeen like ridiculed for having a sugar daddy but never for many people I've been with okay we'll talk about that later thanks bro for the prompt you're welcome
02:54:21
Misra/Kendall/Kylago we waiting on you I don't think I I've never I got you I got you I've never gotten judged for my body account I
02:54:33
Brian Atlasdon't think or at least not what do you face the current guy yeah like at least not to my face the current guy that you're
02:54:43
Brian Atlasseeing have you does he know he he knows little closer to the mic if you can he knows he's he's cool with it yeah and he moved
02:54:53
Brian Atlasfrom Turkey to the US to be with you yeah yeah obviously he Co it okay okay okay okay okay water was the exact question I
02:55:05
Q (Jquan)forgot what was it what what did what did he ask you yeah what was the what was what oh if a guy if a guy found count what he called it off have you been asked um in your
02:55:18
Megan Robinsonrelationship have you ever been asked your body count yeah yeah I ask all the really personal questions yeah I agree agree with what with what she said and yeah what did she say I don't think
02:55:31
Brian Atlasyou know what the question is my dear maybe I don't can you repeat the question has a guy ever asked your body count yes okay I haven't been asked that yeah um yeah like my ex yeah okay I've
02:55:42
Brian Atlasnever been asked but I disclose it anyway yeah it doesn't really come up um I have a photo that we're going to pull up that is kind of related to this the
02:55:51
Brian Atlaswhole waiting can you put us just maybe get rid of us so gosh this is see the guy in the suit and the flowers it's a
02:56:01
Brian AtlasTurkish guy no no no but like that's kind of the tur what I'm trying to say that's how it feels oh I'm I come along
02:56:12
Brian Atlasand I'm supposed to be the the guy with the flowers and we're going to wait till we're married you know what I mean okay but
02:56:21
Misra/Kendall/Kylayou're you're judging me for sleeping with other like men technically but most guys are sleeping with other like girls as
02:56:32
Brian Atlaswell and as a woman you are you are more than welcome to judge men for their promise cuity but it happens to be the case that I think women are not quite as invested in
02:56:44
Brian Atlasmale promiscuity as the reverse you're welcome to disqualify the men you date because of their body counts realistically though t women typically
02:56:55
Megan Robinsondon't so I think it's just because we're not inure you're not inse oh oh okay we can go into that we our standards are different like we might not you know judge a man for his body count but we
02:57:07
Megan Robinsonmight judge him for if he has like a porn addiction or if he's liking other women's pictures on Instagram like I don't like that so going back to you though so you you said
02:57:18
Misra/Kendall/Kylainsecure do so you think is it insecure for a guy to care about a woman's body count I think like that like that's like what I would assume cuz like if you're
02:57:29
Misra/Kendall/Kylacaring about like my past like like who's done what with me in the like in the past then I don't know like I I would
02:57:40
Brian Atlasjust assume they're insecure about what like just like like the other
02:57:47
Q (Jquan)guys okay cuz like I let I I hear this a lot and it's you're not necessarily wrong but I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to add a Twist to it so what
02:58:00
Q (Jquan)what's wrong with a man being insecure about his woman having slept with a whole bunch of menh now that's what I really want to know the answer to cuz I'm I get tired of women saying he's insecure he's insecure okay let's say
02:58:11
Q (Jquan)you're right so what now what yes insecure I don't like the fact that you slept with a whole bunch of men I don't like the fact that you were a sperm depository a a a a c a dumpster I
02:58:22
Q (Jquan)don't like that so let's so let's say that so then what now what now that I've admitted that I'm insecure and that it bothers me because I'm worried about your Fidelity your loyalty to me I'm worried about if you're going to fall
02:58:34
Q (Jquan)back into your ways your habits that when you were sleeping around with these men that is going to reveal itself in our relationship I'm worried about if you're going to cheat I'm worried about all of these things because I slept with
02:58:45
Q (Jquan)other men are these valid concerns that I'm going to cheat but did you not sleep with other women we ain't talking about me sleeping with other women we talking about you addressing in means that you would
02:58:58
Brian Atlascheat H I'm just showing him notes I I have notes from a video he did a while ago I I did a video yeah you did a video in like insecure on all these fronts in
02:59:10
TTS/Donationsinsecure for this insecure for this remember oh yeah yeah remember that video oh W donated $100 they're coming for you puffy never have puffy Vegas s
02:59:21
TTS/Donationsit will be worse than the methhead from the last podcast I can't my IQ getting any lower I said what I said think puffy just wants some love
02:59:33
Brian Atlasthank you w appreciate it so did you want me to oh if you wanted to like I have the list pulled up if you wanted to look at it because I was on a whim yeah but um okay so I'll read from the list yeah read from the
02:59:45
Q (Jquan)list all right I'll turn I'll turn this so so I had said initially in response to a woman I went viral for this several times she said why does body count matter I said i' be concerned about the long-term benefits of dealing with
02:59:58
Q (Jquan)promiscuous women I'd be concerned about your oxytocin receptors densified to the point where you can't effectively parabond poor sexual discipline and you don't receive orgas you didn't receive orgasms from the guys that you
03:00:10
Q (Jquan)dealt with which means you constantly Chase valid because you want orgasm so you constantly have sex with more guys trying to chase an orgasm that's thing
03:00:20
Q (Jquan)that happens um a hidden STI increased risk of divorce all of those things are correlated to women having higher body counts not to mention the scientifically rooted perspective of we are repulsed by
03:00:33
Q (Jquan)women with higher body counts because of a phenomenon known as paternity uncertainty which means a promiscuous woman is more likely to cuck you to have a baby by another man and you don't know about it
03:00:45
Jordanso what's the difference with a man wait like when a man does that oh she wants to know what's the science behind um men who have a high body count how does that affect marriages and
03:00:58
Brian Atlasrelationships with future women I don't think men but I don't think men call women who don't want to date promiscuous men insecure men don't really yeah it's
03:01:09
Q (Jquan)about it's about the way we get labeled but we don't do that to we don't say oh you insecure cuz you don't want to date me cuz I slept with a lot of women I'm not going to say that we'd probably just like okay right
03:01:22
Q (Jquan)that's your call that's the point that's that's where these conversations see anytime women try to apply the same thing to men the difference is what women say about men is not the same thing that men say about women when the tables are turned we accept when a woman
03:01:35
Q (Jquan)don't want to date us for whatever reason but women will shame us call us names say things about us oh you're insecure because you have small dick
03:01:44
Q (Jquan)energy yada y y and that's what we want to know like what what y'all call insecure I call having a boundary yeah I
03:01:56
Brian Atlasagree period did you say period you want more you got more for us what you got what you got no I actually agree with that okay okay everybody has boundaries I
03:02:08
Brian Atlasmean yeah I had I actually had I got some more analogies by the way if that would be helpful you know what I I'll tell you what though I am insecure about catching
03:02:19
Brian Atlasherpes how about that you're right I am in healthwise like I would be scared okay well someone who's had more sexual partners is more likely to have an STD
03:02:29
Brian Atlaswhether known or unknown well you should get checked after yeah but somebody who's like let me ask you a question right so you said it was like was it a six-month period a one-year period where
03:02:39
Brian Atlasyou had the was it 30 so sexual encounters were you getting tested between each of those every single time
03:02:50
TTS/Donationssh stop the C bro no I I actually would um I was cuz I went to UCR um puffy Vegas donated
03:03:02
TTS/Donations$100 I've known thousands and thousands of women I've never met one that was faithful Ever every every minute woman I met is tried to have sex with me right
03:03:12
Brian Atlashave the one rate ps9 in oh my gosh what I don't even know what button to press for that one uh word thank you puffy Vegas appreciate
03:03:25
Brian Atlasit we'll get we're going to pull it up in just a sec wait so you're saying you'd have sex with a guy and then you you would not have sex with another guy until you were
03:03:36
Misra/Kendall/Kylatested yes I'm going to call the cap on that one no no I I'm genuinely scared for that I don't I don't cuz it was my
03:03:46
Brian Atlasex I don't know how to explain it but he scared me so I'm all right okay well I have some more analogies here I'm going to give okay how about this okay
03:04:01
Brian Atlasuh let's say we're dating and I tell you I'm not the romantic type I don't buy flowers I don't do much of anything that would be consider romantic that's something that I think should wait until we're engaged or married
03:04:14
Brian Atlasmeanwhile you are treating me much better than the women I dat in the past ever did and one day somehow you discover that the women I dated before you got flowers cards expensive
03:04:24
Brian Atlasdinners and they were women that I've told you were significantly of lesser value than you and I cared far less about them they were just kind of you know these casual flings and they didn't
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Brian Atlasreally matter to me how about that one anything does anything you can communicate
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Q (Jquan)I don't think you're going to win her over I really don't like I don't know how to explain it better but so none of those scenarios I'm still going to disagree none of those
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Brian Atlasscenarios say okay yeah I understand none of those oh my God okay how about this it's like going to a fancy restaurant you're waiting in line everyone is paying $1
03:05:08
Brian Atlasfor a fancy T-bone steak and then when it's finally your turn you're in firm informed that all they have left is a McDonald's burger that will cost you
03:05:17
Brian Atlas$11,000 you're then told not to get angry you should be lucky that you're paying for everyone else that was a ter I'm sorry that was
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Brian Atlasnot a good one um okay um I don't know how to never mind how about this it's kind of like I mean I would certainly give women
03:05:40
Brian Atlasa woman credit if she was upfront about it but when what ends up happening is women will sort of like lar and pretend like oh I these were always my standards and I've always treated men you know I've always made men wait lo and behold
03:05:53
Brian Atlasthough like that was never truly you're basically lying which is an issue in and of itself that was never your standard in the past so it's kind of this fraud because the whole point of a woman
03:06:04
Brian Atlashaving a waiting period before she has sex is supposed to be due to her not being someone that gives sex away so easily so having a man wait implies that I'm not easy to get into
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Misra/Kendall/Kylabed okay but it's kind of thanks to men that we think that way isn't it think what way like the fact that anyways does anyone else want to
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Jordantalk she's going to die on that hill so I mean yeah let's just I say we just cap it no I'll read one
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Brian Atlasmore I don't know if I think I tapped out I feel like mine about with a good analogy but nobody agreed I got maybe one more your boyfriend of 5 years has yet to propose to you he tells you he wants to take things slow and he isn't
03:06:58
Brian Atlasready yet you find out that he proposed to his previous two ex-girlfriends after just nine months of dating anything beer anything if I'm
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Misra/Kendall/Kylawaiting for a proposal and he hasn't given it to to me in 2 years then I probably wouldn't have stayed in that relationship for 2 years that doesn't make sense though cuz how
03:07:22
Misra/Kendall/Kylawould you know what the future looks like because like like let's say it's been a year mhm then you would break it off cuz like it's been a year and you still hav my propos would you give an ultimatum no you don't believe in
03:07:35
Jordanultimat change a person I think ultimatums are powerful if you actually mean it though not if you're just using it manipulatively yeah but most people use it
03:07:45
Brian Atlasmanipulatively but if you if you stand on that it can work sorry we we've lingered on this one for too long so hold on let me just last thing here so
03:07:54
Brian Atlasbasically look it's this women are going to it's like I'm a woman's position is I'm going to make you wait an arbitrary amount of time because I want to give
03:08:05
Brian Atlasyou the impression that I'm not quick to give out sex but in actuality I am just not for you that's how that's how we're going to view it as a guy
03:08:16
Brian Atlasum moving on let's do twitch guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have one if you also can go subscribe to our Clips Channel on YouTube we're trying to get
03:08:27
Brian Atlasto 1 million subscribers appreciate it guys thank you and what's up oh we got yes we have to do we were wait we were originally going around oh really quick this is the last
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Brian Atlasthing on this we got stuck on you we were going around the table so have you ever had sex with a guy kind of early on and then you met a future guy maybe you saw long-term potential and you made him
03:08:51
Megan Robinsonwait sounds like it might have been the case for you like I've only had sex in relationships so I don't if there was a guy and then there was another guy that
03:09:02
Brian Atlasdidn't happen okay what about you no what's wait so okay what's the shortest period of time you've waited before hooking up with somebody hooking
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Brian Atlasup or having sex Oh I thought those two were pretty much yeah having sex yeah
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Misra/Kendall/Kylaum I'd say like maybe 3 weeks that's the shortest yeah I'm not like a one night stand I'm a relationship
03:09:35
Jordan[Music] girl you really commit to the whole thing
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Brian Atlasright with the eyes three weeks okay all
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Kaylaright um I made a guy wa sorry I made a guy away um 3 months before I had sex
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Kaylawith him um have you ever hooked up the guy before that quick yeah so um after my um relationship ended I hooked up
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Kaylawith um a guy um a guy very quickly cuz I was kind of going through like my heartbreak um and I didn't know how to like manage it at the time so yeah I hooked up and
03:10:32
Kaylathen that kind of like turned into like a very long situationship um but yeah so yeah the shortest amount of time time
03:10:43
Brian Atlasfew hours okay there you have it wait Did we okay let me see oh I have to wait till she's back before I pull this one up uh
03:10:53
Brian Atlaslet's see what else we have wait where were we oh the puffy puffy rating well I gota wait for the girls to come back Nick just do a double check because there's definitely to on Puffy's
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Brian AtlasInstagram I'm pretty sure there's like a ass somewhere I think I saw it last
03:11:11
Brian Atlastime do you see what I'm talking about ien um there's a Jordan Peterson actually there was a previous chat that
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Brian Atlascame in Nick also I want you to go into the Dropbox podcast videos folder let me know when you're there this was kind of related
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Brian Atlasuh so folder it's and then the men folder and it's it's called after dark men are necessary you can load that one up load
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Brian Atlasit up load it up and oh there's also wait oh there's two we're going to do two okay there's that one and then there's one that's in
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Brian Atlasthe browser it was one of the the ship videos is it what's that is it also I think it's
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Brian Atlasno no no this is not in the Dropbox folder it's going to be at the top of the brow ER okay in the videos folder it's uh I don't know if I labeled it can
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Brian Atlasyou can you tell me what it it's the should be this last one or the second like the second one the second one yeah I think it's a YouTube short I think or wait maybe it's IG
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Brian Atlasvideo just pull pull it up let me see what you have one uh show me the other one show me the other
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Brian Atlasone yeah I I think it's this one Fu okay it what wait f11 f11
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Productionokay Sor you want to watch it yeah uh no noise uh just play it and that's fine
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Brian Atlasthere's wait is there no audio on this is this wait I guess there's no video actually it might be the other video I wanted to wait let me see
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Brian Atlasif damn look at okay there's ships this is so out of context I'm sorry guys this makes no sense whatsoever do you guys think women
03:13:37
Brian Atlasshould be paid equally to men what do you guys think men are doing these jobs so yeah no like do you think I I actually think we
03:13:48
Brian Atlasshould like you know like equal board seats for women there should be equal like deaths at sea for women too don't you guys
03:13:56
Brian Atlasthink like equal drowning deaths at Sea like workplace deaths do you guys think we should equalize that like equality right like I'm a I'm
03:14:07
Brian Atlasa feminist here I think an equal amount of women should die at sea working you guys are you guys also not are you guys like do you hate women are you guys not feminists like I
03:14:18
Maddie Ruam cuz I'm a feminist I think women should also die at sea cuz I'm a feminist I mean I would say women are less those jobs cuz we don't have the
03:14:30
Brian Atlassame strength are you guys just you hate women is that what it is here do you are you guys like misandrist like those evil red pill guys like are you just you guys are just
03:14:41
Brian Atlasmisogynist aren't you cuz you don't want like I can't believe none of you are standing up and like demanding an equal amount of women diet see while working I'm not a feminist I I
03:14:53
Brian Atlasagree with you this is really upsetting to me as a feminist here who believes women should also die at sea while
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Brian Atlasworking the wait can you put pull up the other one not not the Dropbox one but the other one I think that was the one I was interested the audio is muted by the way yeah I
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Brian Atlasjust did that yeah go ahead play it all right the most treacherous SE in the world okay all right oh I feel like I
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Productiondidn't save it wait is this it no there's another one I thought is there another one in the folder neck no I pulled up all the
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Brian Atlasones in that folder huh do you guys believe in equal pay between men and women I believe in
03:15:49
Brian Atlasmeritocracy oh okay cuz like I you know I I think I'm a I'm a feminist I think we should also be like you know having you know women on you
03:16:01
Jordanknow boats and you know you're just saying that because you're tired of women saying that they're feminists and no I I'm like a feminist I would really like to see
03:16:13
Brian Atlaslike more women like you know representation I believe in equal representation like there should be equal death like drownings for women like I'm a feminist
03:16:23
Brian Atlasguys an equal amount of women should also drown like in you know their course of their line of
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Q (Jquan)work press the
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JordanCrickets the now honestly men do far more dangerous jobs and therefore you know that's why they're getting paid what they do because
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Brian Atlasthey're honestly doing the things that women wouldn't want to do and get their hands dirty all right let's Play that video uh if you can play that video yeah the JP one last one oh I love Jordan
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Brian Atlasmake us smaller no no no no no just make us smaller oh yeah [Music]
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Brian Atlasall right oh nice okay good times that was so hot that was I don't know if that honestly I love masculine men that that was like I got goosebumps boom it was
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Brian Atlasbeautiful that was H beautiful all right that was the those of you who are just tuning in uh somebody requested one of the red pill red pill I don't even
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Brian Atlasconsider that red pill but uh you know about men being important and necessary um actually well do I go around the
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Music/Clipstable on that do we need men yes yes yes absolutely girl are you serious I just
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Music/Clipslaughed cuz you looked at me what yes into the mics if you can yes yes yes yeah yes good that's good okay we have
03:20:04
Brian AtlasCJ here misra is that how you say your name mhm can you read this one MRA misra can you read this one for I'd rather not why why
03:20:16
Maddie Runot um uh oh I'd rather not me okay I'll have you read it Maddie MRA said in the intro that she did only fans and is in between right now her pay
03:20:28
Maddie Ruchatter logged in a few minutes ago she's a liar and is defrauding her simps I don't believe her addiction claims get the Rocks Brian get the Rocks get the
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Misra/Kendall/KylaRocks yeah Abdul yeah get the the Rocks I'm actually quitting o and those are because you came on the whatever podcast I want to claim that whatever
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Brian Atlaspodcast is claiming that Victory we we got do you know Nala no way the aiga queen with the red hair yes she quit she she stopped doing o because
03:21:04
Brian Atlasof the whatever podcast what came on wait Brian probably I think we directed her she she got baptized what yeah she found Christ I guess again
03:21:16
Brian Atlaspraise God there's a video of wait Nick can you find Nala's Instagram she got baptized shortly after her second appearance on the whatever podcast and I was her spiritual guide to getting there so that's a big W for the
03:21:29
Brian Atlaswhatever podcast and we'd love to add you to also to maybe both of you are you going to stop now that you've come back on the whatever podcast are can you
03:21:40
Maddie Rucan you just look deep into this camera and be like hi hi my experience on the whatever whatever podcast was so enlightening my experience on the
03:21:50
Maddie Ruwhatever podcast is so enlightening and I'm now considering becoming more of a
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Brian Atlasonline B that's a 50 dkp minus what the was that okay nice um so you're quitting your only fans because
03:22:13
Brian Atlasyou came on the whatever podcast sure sweet add it to the resume boys we got it how many is that two I think three we' had three the kid 22
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TTS/Donationsdonated $100 feminism the advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the Sexes girls how does that make you
03:22:35
Brian Atlasfeel advocacy of women's rights on the basis of what how does that make you feel his definition of
03:22:48
Brian Atlasfeminism one eternity later we should be basing it on more than just gender mhm
03:22:57
Brian Atlasokay so misra he says something about do you have a chatter um I believe no what do you mean
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Misra/Kendall/Kylayou believe no wouldn't that be like a definitive no like I I quit like I've told my agency so no one should be on my account right now
03:23:22
Brian Atlasshould okay all right thank you CJ there you go okay uh Junior Soprano oh he wrote that okay we have Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale
03:23:31
Maddie Ruof 1 to 10 starting with you go ahead I give my looks an eight okay personality a 10 thank you thank you for that addition much appreciate it it's great
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Brian Atlaswait am I answering H are you what what was the question oh what was the question well my dear if I can direct your attention to the screen
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Brian Atlasright there ask everyone to write their looks on a scale of one to1 so like me my own yeah your own looks
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Misra/Kendall/Kylayeah probably like five and a five five and a five so 10 like no like five for looks and five for personality math here
03:24:11
Brian Atlasor what we we five for looks five for personality okay all right I would say eight or nine eight eight or nine okay I
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Kaylawould say eight all right I would say seven and a half
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Jordaneight okay I would say like a seven all right my husband says I'm a nine I agree nine all right Q what about you uh I'm
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Jordangoing to go with a six all right I give myself a five all right uh ask who said that no he's not a
03:24:47
Brian Atlassix you're like seven. five there you go Q here wait what if we change it like this stiffmeister no okay
03:24:58
Brian Atlaswhat do you think other people would rate your looks on average 1 to 10 oh so the first question is what do you rate your own looks and this
03:25:07
Brian Atlasquestion he's finally after 140 episodes he's finally decided to add a slightly clarifying question here that's not just
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Maddie Rua self assessment well I guess since it still is but I feel like that's such a hard question to answer cuz so many people like prefer different things some
03:25:27
Maddie Rupeople don't like girls that are taller than them I'm taller than a lot of guys
03:25:33
Brian Atlasso let's say uh cross-section of 100,000 men on average average seven
03:25:47
Brian Atlasgirl you're beautiful I actually think I I I will tell you I think you rated yourself lower than you actually are 100% thank you maybe you're fishing for a compliment though I don't
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Brian Atlasknow I would say probably six oh wait so your own self assessment is five but you think people on the outside would view you as a six yeah cuz
03:26:09
Brian Atlasyou said five and then but other people see you as a six okay I think probably eight okay I would say like a seven or
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Kaylaeight I would say you like at work or just like in general in general um like
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Misra/Kendall/Kylaa eight nine okay I would say like a pro like a six or a seven mhm yeah yeah nine
03:26:37
Brian Atlasokay all right no tens at the table thank God I'm not going to linger on that one for too long let's see what do we have here
03:26:46
Brian Atlasokay let's get into some of our pre-show notes finally so let's see Maddie okay we talked about you know your whole gym thing
03:26:57
TTS/Donationsum you said that s donated $100 listen Brian first time donation felt like you've been mailing it in lately this might be your definitive
03:27:10
TTS/Donationsperformance very entertaining keep doing the Lord's work wait what does mailing it in mean is that a good thing or a bad thing sounds positive it's a good what does it
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Brian Atlasmean to mail something in bring it out I don't know I think nailing it in nailing it in oh no I think mailing it in what does mailing it in mean I I know what nailing it in means I don't know what
03:27:33
Brian Atlasmailing it like can I email it you're putting it in the right place what if it's just like a text message that sounds more like mail so text like is mailing something like to mail something that's it's like that you're putting in
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Maddie Ruthe effort like you're doing a good job yeah like you nailed it I would say nail I think no I think he meant I think he means mail let us know I'm pretty sure he means mail yeah okay going to need
03:27:56
Brian Atlasclarification heard that term before Brian do you agree with our ratings uh let's see I only wrote down I started here because I heard her nine so
03:28:07
Brian AtlasI wrote that down uh hold on just taking another Gander maybe I shouldn't have asked
03:28:18
Brian Atlasthat hold on can I have some like makeup wipes here can you guys like maybe sorry I would do it maybe remove
03:28:28
Megan Robinsonremove your makeup and then cuz like makeup can definitely add like at least one point I'm down I'll remove half my face for you you're not even wearing
03:28:39
Brian Atlasthat much makeup no you're not yeah you're not or maybe you are and it's just like that you know kind of natural makeup okay
03:28:50
Brian Atlascool uh I think you guys were pretty uh there's definitely overinflated ratings I'll say that much
03:29:00
Brian Atlasokay can you be more specific what do you mean specific okay fine you want me to just come out and say it not wait wait
03:29:12
Jordanlet's ask them if they want you to answer that too because I don't know I'm just saying something oh you okay who's fine with me being honest you can be honest you already answer I already pointed towards you I was already
03:29:24
Brian Atlaspointed towards you well I was going to say not nine notada not a nine you said eight right damn hey you're attractive girl
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Brian Atlasyou're attractive uh eight
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Brian AtlasI'll give you a seven okay all right here we go you're an eight oh wait I said seven half yeah you said
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Jordaneight not an eight seven an eight rude I think she is well then what am I seven
03:30:01
Brian Atlasand six six to seven you you said nine sorry not nine rude what would you call me uh oh you want me to see cuz I oh huh
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Brian Atlasjust go around at this point and tell us all uh hold on let me get let me look into the camera over here let's
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Brian Atlassee what this is awkward uh uh six or seven seven maybe six I'd have to see you without makeup maybe seven with makeup six
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Brian Atlaswithout maybe I don't know what you look like without makeup I think I look better without makeup I honestly 99% of the time I don't you look better without makeup you're telling me you're
03:30:46
Brian Atlastelling you spend money on makeup and you spend hours putting it on to look worse actually actually I haven't bought makeup in years you haven't done makeup
03:30:58
Jordanin years I haven't bought makeup in years I wear makeup you've got that expired she's got that expired okay okay once in a great while
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JordanI'll Foundation but like all my eyes Shadow palettes yeah they're old you bought all my brushes yeah they're old I just washed them it's maintenance that wasn't really the central argument that I was trying to make but how do you I
03:31:21
Jordanwear makeup less than 10 times in a year I'm proud of you babe and I literally wore it today for you well for this podcast well for this podcast not for you but for this
03:31:32
Brian Atlaspodcast cool I get it you're in front of a camera you want to look nice I don't object to women coming on the show wearing makeup you go to my Instagram there's pictures of me without makeup do you not like women wearing
03:31:46
Brian Atlasmakeup that was the other thing I disagreed with Brian on okay we can oh let's talk about that my pre in terms of women that I'm dating yeah I prefer just in I prefer minimal or no makeup well
03:31:57
Brian Atlasokay we can have a conversation about like General makeup usage um but uh I I do want to linger a little bit on you said that you look better without makeup who else said that you too I don't even
03:32:10
Brian Atlaswear makeup at work okay so explain to me why you would spend time putting something on you and perhaps spending money on it if it made you look worse that doesn't make sense honestly I kind
03:32:22
Kaylaof regret wearing makeup tonight I don't really like wearing makeup t wait make it make sense to me though what do you mean what do you mean I I mean I'm on camera oh you're saying but the camera
03:32:32
Jordanwill wash your face out right and those like you know I have like little dark circles like around my eyes my husband says it looks like I'm wearing all day
03:32:42
Jordaneyes Shadow he's a sweetheart but and my cheeks are naturally Rosy so honestly I I'm just wearing the makeup to enhance I'm not
03:32:54
Jordanwearing it to change my appearance and any way like I can say why do you wear hair gel your hair's not that tall and I put a little maple syrup in it to you
03:33:04
Jordanknow I like I put a little maple syrup in it it's not hair gel get it right God whatever so you're using something actually I just use water this is just water no it's not I swear to God no it's
03:33:15
Brian Atlasnot there's no way water is making it stick no I swear to God I don't know if you know Santa Barbara water that what kind of water are you using I use a little tap water I go like this and
03:33:26
Brian AtlasI I'll actually I don't know maybe your hair's oily and so that's why that's probably why actually refrigerated Matty rude wait can you get me room
03:33:39
Brian Atlastemp it's I want room temp babe oh oh my God I'm kidding sorry I'm being I'm sassy I'm sorry it's like a sassy thing
03:33:50
Brian Atlaswhoa I'm I'm in I'm I'm in my sassy man era okay but what is it enhancing I called her babe she's married let this
03:33:59
TTS/DonationsI'm going to get beat up I'm I'm just being sassy I'm not I'm not saying it I'm being sassy I'm not you know hly donated $100 bring out the wet wipes and see if
03:34:12
Brian Atlasthey're legit or not she said she would do it wait what were we talking about oh my hair wait what how how did my hair come into this yeah you know listen I she was comparing it she was making a I don't
03:34:25
Brian Atlasbelieve in showering okay do you have a problem with that you got a problem with that I don't know the
03:34:34
Maddie Ruwhat what's wrong what hygienically yeah you don't shower I have an issue listen you're not shower listen I live in the
03:34:44
Brian Atlaswoods it's a luxury for me to shower no I'm just kidding I shower I shower huh listen I swim almost every day I have a
03:34:54
Brian Atlaslittle chlorine stiffness in my hair know so it's the chlorine water that keeps it nice and Spruce but but see you're sprucing we're sprucing wait so
03:35:05
Jordanokay what's the argument the argument the the argument is that we wear makeup to enhance our Beauty said better be the same thing so
03:35:16
Brian Atlasthe argument is hair gel is I am wearing makeup for the camera exactly oh well I I put I put in a little Maple no never
03:35:26
Brian Atlasmind no wait so what's the argument I'm just confused that you enhancing your hair with product is the same as in I actually I'm being honest I there's zero
03:35:38
Jordanproduct in my hair that's like a rule of thumb we something even guys wear makeup on production there's zero there's zero product in my hair right now I literally put water in it okay but have you put
03:35:50
Brian Atlasproduct in your hair before I haven't put product in my hair since elementary school I used to put a gel in it but it's I no I swear to God I've not put any gel is disgusting too and then like
03:36:01
Brian Atlasyou sweat and then it's like uh I don't put any product in my hair do you do anything to enhance your appearance any I don't understand any do you do you do anything that doesn't come
03:36:13
Brian Atlasnaturally like you didn't wake up like this you did something to enhance your appearance I mean I I styled my hair for like two minutes before the show why did
03:36:25
Brian Atlasyou style your hair huh why' you style your hair are you are you comparing like yes it's not it's I
03:36:34
Brian Atlasmean I'll engage with it a bit it's not anywhere let me ask you a question do you think think that a woman who wears a little bit of eyeliner is comparable to
03:36:44
Brian Atlasa woman who has lipo fake HTS and a BBL do you think do you think that's like an equivalent sort of enh enhancement of your physical appearance like is that a
03:36:56
Brian Atlasfair equivalency makeup versus surgery right so I'm saying that the jump you're making is somewhat similar from styling
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Jordanyour hair a little bit to putting on a facade I don't I think your comparison is like way bigger than what I'm saying but it is a you do at least acknowledge
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Jordanthat you're making a leap per perhaps you don't I'm making a leap for you because apparently you don't wear hair gel I don't but a lot of guys do wear hair gel or style their
03:37:26
Brian Atlashair in some sort of way or like you know okay so let me ask you a question do you think men who style their hair even if they do use hair gel is as much
03:37:37
Brian Atlasof a deception or a fraud or a facade s or a veneer as is wearing a full face of
03:37:47
Brian Atlasmakeup no do you think that it changes the appearance to the same degree that a full face of makeup will or even some makeup will I don't know how crusty is
03:37:59
Jordanhis hair in the morning you know what I mean could be a little crusty but so your argument hinges on
03:38:09
Brian Atlasthe decree the the difference is though is women are also capable of uh styling their hair too wh men typically don't wear
03:38:20
Jordanmakeup but that's why but we're different right and I'm like men and women are different I would be questioning if a man wore makeup what were you going to say sorry I'm like I literally have um videos all over
03:38:32
Brian AtlasYouTube without any makeup on yeah me too literally okay wait so what's your objection I I don't understand what you're no not you you no it's about it's about makeup
03:38:45
Jordanright so what's what's the argument oh I'm saying like makeup goes back all the way like centuries back right it's like always
03:38:55
Jordanbeen it's always been our thing it's not like it's not a normal thing for a guy to just like wake up and like throw on a full face it's not even normal for me to do that like I said I I agree with you
03:39:06
Brian Atlasmen shouldn't wear makeup yes but women we can there's nothing wrong with that you well uh here is where wait oh there's a meme Nick there's a meme where it's like
03:39:18
Brian Atlasoh I don't know if how you're going to find it it's like one person standing facing like a a crowd of it's a cartoon uh facing a crowd of people and
03:39:30
Brian Atlasit's and it's just one person and there's a little speech bubble and it says yes I disagree with you I'm trying to find it maybe I can find it wait cartoon yes I
03:39:43
Brian Atlasdisagree with you I don't know if that's prompt is going to find it a man wait Frick hold
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Brian Atlason see if you can find it but wait sorry I'm kind of lame I
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Brian Atlassound a this is not going to wait sorry okay I'll try to engage in the conversation while I'm trying to find this so what what what is it what's your no what's your
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Jordandisagreement um I don't remember what I said oh yeah um that women it's normal for us to wear makeup it's not normal for guys to wake
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Jordanup and wear makeup um so I'm saying it's it's a normal thing I if you see a woman with makeup are you going to be shocked are you going to be surprised are you going to be like oh my God you're lying about
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Jordanhow you look right and obviously you can also tell if you look at a woman is she caked or is she just wearing something that's natural and just flattering
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Jordanthere's also a difference there mhm of how she's applying it how much is she applying is she really trying to you know hide something she have like acne or something that she's
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Brian Atlasinsecure about mhm I can't F oh actually wait yes you are all wrong okay hold on Nick I'm going to send it to you one sec give me just one sec I'll address I'll addressor
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Brian AtlasVegas Don $100 please have the girls me we still have to do that okay we'll do that we we'll do that in a sec puffy I'll engage can you pull that
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Brian Atlasup okay just pulled up the image so this is my view this is my thing on makeup right
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Brian Atlash make us okay so that's the horde of people who are pro makeup and then that's me over there wait okay that that's not
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Brian Atlaslike ignore the speech bubble I don't know is that the original one I think there's different varieties Nick you might have pulled up the wrong one yeah it's here scroll down scroll down Nick it's