Single Mom Wants Date To PAY For Babysitter?! | Dating Talk #80

Date: 2023-07-03

Duration: 5h 14m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBella (valarama TV)>

EElizabeth (DT96)>

JJulia Lynn Sandoval >

TTaylor (DT80)>

VVictoria (DT80)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Bella (valarama TV)(guest)

SPEAKER_04TikTok Video(audience)

SPEAKER_06Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_08Sadie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Julia Lynn Sandoval(guest)

SPEAKER_10Victoria(guest)

SPEAKER_11Taylor(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteElizabeth reveals she is 23, has never had a boyfriend, never been on a romantic date, is a 5-time US national figure skater, double gold medalist, youth Olympian, Miss Orange County, Maxim cover, and acted in American Horror Story. Still lives with protective parents and gives all earnings to family.

“I am a two times double gold medalist, I'm a five-time US national competitor... I was Miss Orange County... I was on the cover of Maxim magazine... I worked with American Horror Story.”

QuoteSadie discloses she witnessed friends having sex with up to 4 guys in one night at SLO frat parties; describes witnessing the acts directly.

“I've never seen someone just like meet somebody and automatically like go to a bedroom... I grew up Christian so I was not... in this world like that.”

QuoteJulia shares that at 18-19 she made out with a photographer in his 40s who used his industry status to groom her; says she now feels it was grooming despite consenting at the time, citing brain development under 25.

“I was getting into modeling, he's a photographer... he abused his power in a sense but I consented... I do feel like I was groomed at 18 years old.”

OtherRatings round: Bella self-rates 8, Julia self-rates 9.5, Victoria self-rates 8 (reluctantly), Sadie self-rates 6.5-7, Brian self-rates 6/6.9. Elizabeth declines number but calls Sadie a 10.

“Bella: eight. Julia: nine or a ten... 9.5. Victoria: eight. Sadie: 6.5-7. Brian: six 6.9 on a good day.”

QuoteTikTok single mom video played on stream: woman demands dates pay for her babysitter, plan creative activities, not invite her daughter, not serve drinks on weekday dates.

“Unless you're offering to pay for the babysitter, I'm not going on that date.”

QuoteBella argues that finding and paying for the babysitter is the single mom's own responsibility if she chooses to participate in dating.

“It's not the guy that potentially might full-time date her... that's not his responsibility. It is yours to find and pay for the babysitter if you actually want to participate in the dating world.”

QuoteVictoria reveals she met her husband (Allen, one of the original four from Justin.TV; face of the BrokeBack Twitch emote; WoW Lich King world-first raider in Blood Legion) by watching him stream and chatting in his Twitch chat; he flew her to San Diego the same week.

“I used to watch him play World of Warcraft on Twitch... Someone said oh she's a girl and he said let me check her out... He flew me out that same week to San Diego to come meet him.”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces the show. Guests introduce themselves: Bella (valarama TV, AZ, Twitch/OF, declines age), Elizabeth (23, LA, model/actress/ice skater), Julia (26, CO/LA, content creator/OF, in first relationship), Taylor (25, FL, Kick streamer), Victoria (married, Canadian in SD, Twitch/OF), Sadie (20, SLO, college student, in relationship). Relationship statuses and OF income discussed.

Body Count and Hookup Culture

Sadie recounts witnessing friends hook up with 3-4 guys per night at SLO frat parties; she remained a virgin until current boyfriend. Panel discusses hookup culture, body count preferences, and whether it matters.

Age Gaps and Grooming

Julia shares experience of making out with a 40s-something photographer when she was 18-19; questions whether consent was truly informed given brain development under 25. Brian notes retroactive regret vs. legal consent distinction. Discussion of brain development and voting age.

OnlyFans Relationship Dynamics

Panel discusses whether men want to date women who do OnlyFans. Arguments about sexual purity vs business, validation from subscribers diminishing partner attention, children and bullying concerns, adam22 open relationship case, top-percentage OF statistics.

Self-Ratings / Looks Scale

Panel rates their own looks 1-10: Bella (8), Julia (9.5), Victoria (8, declines specific number), Sadie (6.5-7), Brian (6/6.9). Elizabeth rates herself implicitly a 10 via Elizabeth rating Sadie as 10.

Single Mom Babysitter Debate

TikTok video played of single mom saying men should pay for her babysitter to earn a date, should not invite her and daughter out, should not expect late-night dates. Panel debates: is it fair to expect date to pay babysitter? Consensus: panel finds it entitled; guest's own responsibility to arrange childcare. Brian notes provisioning for another man's child is sub-optimal.

High-Value Man/Woman Definition

Discussion of what constitutes a "high-value" man (physical, success, character, ambition, values) vs high-value woman (physical appearance, values, character; income less important for women than men).

Dating Apps and Modern Dating

Discussion of dating apps, messaging culture, ghosting, expectations for response speed, relationships starting casual vs committed.

Red Flags Round

Panel shares personal red flags: van lifers (Brian), Instagram-only girls abroad (Julia, sugar daddy implication), impatience/insecurity (Bella), rudeness to service staff (Victoria), looking down on others' views (Julia), rude to mom or animals (Julia), condoms visible on first date (panel discussion).

Transcript

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Bella (valarama TV)needs a wingman you could be his wingman

Taylordid I just hear the boyfriend is a stripper TJ TJ sometimes that's funny sometimes

Bella (valarama TV)um Astoria in Arizona

Bella (valarama TV)do they do the body count yeah we did [Laughter] show the Third one thank you

Tayloryes my glasses are fake to everyone who is asking I know it just makes you so mad it just made you so mad that my gloves are fake while we're doing it because we're

Bella (valarama TV)having fun it's a Fourth of July weekend let's party it out cheers 4th of July happy Fourth of July weekend everyone

Bella (valarama TV)for reading YouTube [Laughter] we need Jesus we totally do

Victoriawe are gonna go on the boat right Victoria I'm not sure yet huh I'm not sure yet hopefully we're gonna go on the boat oh

Victoriacareful depends on uh hi Nene I'm on on things wait can they hear like my nose if I'm like no

Bella (valarama TV)day is good day is good it was great stream I really enjoyed it great conversations it was really good it is a little sad that bottom G couldn't come but it was great

Tayloryou heard my nose all stream sweet you better be lying please please tell me you're lying the weather's a little chilly

Taylorsays we have to go let's go [Music] thank you hi

Taylorevery Sunday Tuesday let's see if I know people in here you guys come back on the show of course of course we come back on the show yeah yeah I feel like it would be really cool

Bella (valarama TV)to have um you know individuals with uh different opinions so we can actually have a like a debate debate but it was great um Taylor do you have some Italian names arranged

TaylorI love that I do make really good pasta though but no I'm as white as white can be

Brian Atlasokay I got my fruit boys how long is this Magnum my name is Taylor Starlight Starlight oh just like five minutes

Brian Atlasdoes somebody I'm back I feel like I'm kind of like lonely over here thank you crispy does anybody want to join my side so it's like more balanced oh okay wait what are we doing

Bella (valarama TV)outside so I shouldn't eat into the microphone no definitely do that ASMR let's after party is just like ASMR by the way today was Elizabeth's first day trying alcohol

Bella (valarama TV)yes have you ever tried alcohol before like any type of alcohol serious wait you've never had no I never had alcohol yeah I could say

Victoriayour first sip of alcohol was Hello Kitty Prosecco yep

Brian Atlasbeer no I never had the intention to wow you guys are I I leave her alone for 10 minutes and you guys look what happened we were responsibility

Brian Atlaswithin a week she's gonna have an only face

Bella (valarama TV)way around us who's the bottom jean bad influence bottom G is the guy who looks like Andrew Tate but that's really fun dances it's going to be on the show yeah he

Taylorliterally misses bus um he was gonna ride with you guys right and then he yeah it was just a lot of back and forth and stuff and then he missed the bus he missed the bus rip

Studio Staffstop crafting our Elizabeth we do apologize no this is my innocent you destroyed it was a Sit it was one sit

Unknownwhatever next time we're gonna try dirty martinis oh gosh that's like going from zero to a hundred exactly isn't that bad is it Martinez is literally just straight out that's my favorite drink

Victoriayeah it's just vodcon Verma don't listen to these Sinners okay something like get her like a Coors lighter they're like a wine cooler hello

Bella (valarama TV)brain zurica would you ever bring Circa I thought he said he's been yeah he was supposed to be on today's show he was on another podcast

Bella (valarama TV)no honestly I might try to get him for the fourth maybe but I don't know he's I think honestly it's because the traffic for the Fourth of July and

Bella (valarama TV)everything dude it was so bad it was so it's gonna be really bad yeah yeah we drove all the way from Wisconsin Wisconsin Dells shout out to Wisconsin

TaylorDells so yeah it was just a long ass traffic yeah it's like it was saying four hours and then we would like look at the thing and the time would just not change it was supposed to be two and a half hours and it took four hours tea

Bella (valarama TV)That's when you want to forget about your past and welcome your new demons that's when you drink Lola check my DMs guys oh you actually responded she friend zones all of them

Elizabeththough no no I read every single one well you read them yeah put your friends on them I don't like that term anymore I just say friend but would you friendly would

Elizabethyou ever uh would you date any of your fans I like like being obsessed with me I'm serious I literally dated

Bella (valarama TV)I don't mind if a guy's obsessed with you yeah alcohol ow totally don't drink if you're response not normal wait is it not normal like

Brian Atlasright wait what's don't you want him to be into you yeah but I think if South is different sorry Brian go home oh I mean you did say you want a guy who's like constantly

Taylortexting you and like a good texter I'm a I feel like I'm a no you know I feel like a great text or boys Elizabeth I'm gonna miss

Taylorlike all day but at any moment if you have a period of time where you're just like it's the culture that's not doing anything or if I'm on your minds like just pick up the phone and be like hey

Taylorthinking about you I'm really busy right now but we can talk later or maybe not but at least she said that at least you said something but I feel like girls don't like clingy guys like if you're so

Bella (valarama TV)stop singing I don't know again Chad it's all about having like you know your own love your own friends doing things you know like you're not just constantly thing is if he gets mad

Bella (valarama TV)when you don't text back that's clingy yeah that's weird yeah yeah that's obsessive yeah she is narcissist to huay me totally

Bella (valarama TV)Elizabeth they're all fighting for you how are you gonna pick the best see now she's she's had a sip of alcohol she's she's uh DMs DM her guys

Bella (valarama TV)this girl's a genius yeah she's checking her IG right now

Bella (valarama TV)she looks like AI generated how you guys feel about AI taking over very soon that's going to be crazy

Bella (valarama TV)literally already Twitter is filled with AI oaf girl but yeah I mean how was yesterday where they were limiting everyone's uh tweets to just

Taylor600. oh my god oh he changed that yeah yeah that was ridiculous yeah that was ridiculous mm-hmm and it counted comments too

Brian Atlasby the way you have an accent where are you uh where are you from I'm from America you're born in the U.S yeah yes it's uh

Bella (valarama TV)you're very uh mysterious and right I'm paranoid okay it's a paranoia okay you guys read that one good times you want to know like an

Elizabethembarrassing story yeah it's really embarrassing it's more like I'm kind of lame okay like I was invited to like um Comic-Con

Elizabeththe after party it was like a club party I like drove like an hour to go over because I knew the um because I worked for Comic-Con at

Elizabeththat time as a model okay this was like maybe like three months ago so recent because I knew the owner that ran Comic-Con he invited me into

Elizabeththe party I drove one hour I went to the club I invited another girl so then we plan to meet up I was in the club for like

Elizabethfive minutes and I left it was kind of sad like I walked around because the club's in My Vibe that's the thing wait you were meeting a guy there no no

Taylorjust to hang out and that was my first time ever at a clubs suck clubs are overrated oh yeah they're overrated I was holding in a club for five minutes first time I went but there's for a different reason I got kicked out

Bella (valarama TV)Chad just because I speak Russian doesn't mean I am Russian kazakus from Kazakhstan no you're belarussian

Brian Atlasno I'm not Russian you're a Ukrainian nope what are you why are you guys trying to dance outside it's secretary she'll tell us after the show

Bella (valarama TV)okay it's for your own protection it's all on protection love and respect Borat Borat is Kazakhstan it's not the same not Russian goddammit thank you for

Elizabethstarting that now everybody thinks I'm Russian I speak only two languages how many languages do you speak um only English um sadly you don't speak Vietnamese I

Brian Atlasunderstand Vietnamese okay every single word but when I try to speak it it's just it doesn't come out you know I'm the same way with the French a little well actually I speak French my French well I was born in France and

Victoriathen I moved to the US when I was five see I'm kind of like that because in Canada you have to learn learn French until like grade eight and then everything that you buy in Canada is in English and French yeah because what

Brian Atlashappened is I moved here when I was five to the U.S my dad would speak French to me but then I would respond in English so I understand French better than I can speak it so yeah

UnknownI know a little bit of Spanish and that's it rip but yeah no you don't speak any Vietnamese basic phrases you know like High by what's high in Vietnamese what's it

Brian Atlaswhat's the language called in Vietnamese it's called Vietnamese like means hi okay I'm wondering if I know any of you in the

ElizabethVietnamese I know how to actually like because my mom taught me how to cook like all traditional Vietnamese food

Victoriaand then bun is like noodles right like cold noodles with stuff on top which one one oh Boon Boon yeah yeah okay okay thank you

Elizabethawkward you guys like it do you guys like Vietnamese food I love Vietnamese you love it is like my number one hangover food imagine if you have like a full party

Taylorsee my thing is I just don't like rice noodles I don't know why I like everyone they're like the best ones no they're healthier for you it's less cow that's why I don't like them

Brian AtlasBella is 35. yo Bella are you 35

Brian Atlassomebody in the chat is saying that you're 35 .

Brian Atlasyou're a guild I'm ready to um it took some milk no it's a gill we're gonna wrap in two minutes yeah 12

Brian Atlas12. that is the lucky number okay uh interesting so what's everyone's here thoughts on you know the current border dispute in

Bella (valarama TV)um in Turkey whoa in Turkey I don't I've been in a bubble so I don't know you should talk about Paris the Paris one is crazy and there's a

Victoriatwitchcon's happening yeah so they're protesting in Paris and twitchcon is in Paris the French love a good protest

Victoriait's true the French that's their whole life Department part of being part of the uh in French it's part of the thing you know so it's like

Victoriawait what Broadway Elizabeth do you know the Canadian national anthem [Music] yeah yesterday was Canada today [Music]

Victoriais there is there a French version there is okay when I was in school it would be like the first part would be English and then the second half they'd have us sing it in French but I can't remember it

Brian Atlasword I mean like I feel like uh the the French nationalists I'm sure I've heard it oh uh

Bella (valarama TV)uh it's a yes or no question putting on the spot what the Brian you okay how you feel yeah

Brian Atlasyou can answer it if you want yeah go ahead you said that he was a high-valued man where are you taking me where are you taking hold on I shouldn't have been

Elizabethspeaking rather you want to repeat it what wait what did you say I would like seriously not going to lie oh okay where uh where are you taking me on our first date

Brian Atlasadventurous I'm adventurous when you fly you say you fly all the time do you go private or are you first class are you economy what What's um um

Elizabethno usually I'm like oh my God Brian you've been friendzoned that was such an obvious friend zone huh

Elizabethhuh wait what what wait what it's okay

Elizabethwhen I fly we fly a regular we fly regular like normal fly regular yeah like Southwest whatever is on sale because I mean you said go on an adventure like if you're gonna take did someone just fart oh like no

ElizabethAdventures I'm like Adventures as in like horseback riding you know like horseback ratings horseback riding yeah do something cool about parasailing do you like Paris oh parasailing is nice

Brian Atlasin terms of is he does anything else

Victoriayeah what's he do for work is he retired or yeah it basically helps me manage no no he we've worked together I think it's nice we've been streaming together non-stop for 10 years

Bella (valarama TV)ogalla knows how to seduce using math wait are you guys on Kik or twitching both but yeah we do both I'm on did you get a deal from kick Elizabeth Grinder's adventure oh it's in

Bella (valarama TV)the works well I mean bro you know what Elizabeth The Greatest Adventure you're going to be you know hang out with me I'm gonna risk the out of here it's gonna be so amazing I'm sorry to say

Elizabeththat but I feel like I'll do a better job yeah that was funny actually they said that's an expensive first day I know Disneyland is kind of expensive universities looks better you know what's like yeah sometimes something

Elizabethsuper nice is literally um I said you can go hiking or just stare at the sunset going down that's like super cheap that's like what that's

Elizabethnothing that's a good date yeah good times like vlogging we're just talking like in enjoying nature watching the sunset about like McDonald's is that

Bella (valarama TV)like a good first date you think definitely like that's classy it's it's kind of cute it's like it's different what if you buy you a Happy Meal no just take

Bella (valarama TV)the girl to a really cute coffee shop with like a really cool Aesthetics and stuff there's no reason for McDonald's coffee shop is gonna cost you less if not the same price word all right we have mix here uh do you like a guy who can cook I would cook you a really

Elizabethamazing dinner for you Elizabeth I own the catering business okay hmm do you want to answer that of course I'm like a guy that knows how to cook that'll be cool so then I don't have to do it all the time

Brian Atlasthat would be good and you could cater your things your events that you have your secret cult meetings I feel like McDonald's is a great place to go on a

Taylorfirst date because if you can have fun at a McDonald's then you can have fun anywhere but I feel like it should be a follow-up like do something and that's what I'll say like like get McDonald's maybe get like a whole thing you have to like do like a picnic with it and go

Brian Atlaslike look at the stars or something you know I'll wrap on this point here uh I actually took a girl to McDonald's once for a first date but that wasn't the initial plan like we we were gonna

Brian Atlasgo to In and Out which is a much more upscale bougie sort of place but the line was so long you didn't make a reservation you can't make a

Elizabethreservation the city Doesn't Matter What ethnicity doesn't matter no they're saying what Elizabeth date from another ethnic group

Brian Atlasyeah it doesn't matter word um so the line's too long at in and out so I'm like yo we could I mean it's not ideal but we could go to

Brian AtlasMcDonald's and she was so pissed off that we went to McDonald's she was really upset yeah I was like yo it's gonna take us

Victorialike 45 minutes to get food I'm trying to eat something probably right now McDonald's is actually more money than in and out no no it's more expensive

Bella (valarama TV)but it's the qualities that's like what you got that's what you got no Brian here's what you should have said that hey let's grab some McDonald's fries and then like McFlurries because

Bella (valarama TV)they're delicious well wait in line this way you're gonna get a McDonald's but you're also not gonna kind of like you know put her down but just taking her to McDonald's on the first day so as long as I get fries in the

Brian AtlasMcFlurry it's okay it's not an official dinner yes true all right cool guys we're gonna wrap there uh thank you guys for sticking around for the little after show we did

Brian AtlasI hope you guys have a good night let's see some 07s in the uh chat uh some 07s in the chat guys that'd be much appreciated did we get a Super Chat that just came in or wait

Brian AtlasTJ King Super Chat is still up there that's weird hold on let me just wait here to just a sec wait let me see sorry guys my chat's all scuffed uh

Brian Atlas07's in the chat yep spam the 07s guys spam those sevens uh okay uh here I'm gonna put it over here what are those seven oh it's like a little yeah

Brian Atlasyeah so you guys use the most evidence oh

Bella (valarama TV)thanks Brian thank you for hosting us yeah thanks yeah thank you guys bye

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