Single Mom Wants Date To PAY For Babysitter?! | Dating Talk #80

Date: 2023-07-03

Duration: 5h 14m

Guests

Brian Atlas

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EElizabeth (DT96)>

JJulia Lynn Sandoval >

TTaylor (DT80)>

VVictoria (DT80)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Bella (valarama TV)(guest)

SPEAKER_04TikTok Video(audience)

SPEAKER_06Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_08Sadie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Julia Lynn Sandoval(guest)

SPEAKER_10Victoria(guest)

SPEAKER_11Taylor(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteElizabeth reveals she is 23, has never had a boyfriend, never been on a romantic date, is a 5-time US national figure skater, double gold medalist, youth Olympian, Miss Orange County, Maxim cover, and acted in American Horror Story. Still lives with protective parents and gives all earnings to family.

“I am a two times double gold medalist, I'm a five-time US national competitor... I was Miss Orange County... I was on the cover of Maxim magazine... I worked with American Horror Story.”

QuoteSadie discloses she witnessed friends having sex with up to 4 guys in one night at SLO frat parties; describes witnessing the acts directly.

“I've never seen someone just like meet somebody and automatically like go to a bedroom... I grew up Christian so I was not... in this world like that.”

QuoteJulia shares that at 18-19 she made out with a photographer in his 40s who used his industry status to groom her; says she now feels it was grooming despite consenting at the time, citing brain development under 25.

“I was getting into modeling, he's a photographer... he abused his power in a sense but I consented... I do feel like I was groomed at 18 years old.”

OtherRatings round: Bella self-rates 8, Julia self-rates 9.5, Victoria self-rates 8 (reluctantly), Sadie self-rates 6.5-7, Brian self-rates 6/6.9. Elizabeth declines number but calls Sadie a 10.

“Bella: eight. Julia: nine or a ten... 9.5. Victoria: eight. Sadie: 6.5-7. Brian: six 6.9 on a good day.”

QuoteTikTok single mom video played on stream: woman demands dates pay for her babysitter, plan creative activities, not invite her daughter, not serve drinks on weekday dates.

“Unless you're offering to pay for the babysitter, I'm not going on that date.”

QuoteBella argues that finding and paying for the babysitter is the single mom's own responsibility if she chooses to participate in dating.

“It's not the guy that potentially might full-time date her... that's not his responsibility. It is yours to find and pay for the babysitter if you actually want to participate in the dating world.”

QuoteVictoria reveals she met her husband (Allen, one of the original four from Justin.TV; face of the BrokeBack Twitch emote; WoW Lich King world-first raider in Blood Legion) by watching him stream and chatting in his Twitch chat; he flew her to San Diego the same week.

“I used to watch him play World of Warcraft on Twitch... Someone said oh she's a girl and he said let me check her out... He flew me out that same week to San Diego to come meet him.”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces the show. Guests introduce themselves: Bella (valarama TV, AZ, Twitch/OF, declines age), Elizabeth (23, LA, model/actress/ice skater), Julia (26, CO/LA, content creator/OF, in first relationship), Taylor (25, FL, Kick streamer), Victoria (married, Canadian in SD, Twitch/OF), Sadie (20, SLO, college student, in relationship). Relationship statuses and OF income discussed.

Body Count and Hookup Culture

Sadie recounts witnessing friends hook up with 3-4 guys per night at SLO frat parties; she remained a virgin until current boyfriend. Panel discusses hookup culture, body count preferences, and whether it matters.

Age Gaps and Grooming

Julia shares experience of making out with a 40s-something photographer when she was 18-19; questions whether consent was truly informed given brain development under 25. Brian notes retroactive regret vs. legal consent distinction. Discussion of brain development and voting age.

OnlyFans Relationship Dynamics

Panel discusses whether men want to date women who do OnlyFans. Arguments about sexual purity vs business, validation from subscribers diminishing partner attention, children and bullying concerns, adam22 open relationship case, top-percentage OF statistics.

Self-Ratings / Looks Scale

Panel rates their own looks 1-10: Bella (8), Julia (9.5), Victoria (8, declines specific number), Sadie (6.5-7), Brian (6/6.9). Elizabeth rates herself implicitly a 10 via Elizabeth rating Sadie as 10.

Single Mom Babysitter Debate

TikTok video played of single mom saying men should pay for her babysitter to earn a date, should not invite her and daughter out, should not expect late-night dates. Panel debates: is it fair to expect date to pay babysitter? Consensus: panel finds it entitled; guest's own responsibility to arrange childcare. Brian notes provisioning for another man's child is sub-optimal.

High-Value Man/Woman Definition

Discussion of what constitutes a "high-value" man (physical, success, character, ambition, values) vs high-value woman (physical appearance, values, character; income less important for women than men).

Dating Apps and Modern Dating

Discussion of dating apps, messaging culture, ghosting, expectations for response speed, relationships starting casual vs committed.

Red Flags Round

Panel shares personal red flags: van lifers (Brian), Instagram-only girls abroad (Julia, sugar daddy implication), impatience/insecurity (Bella), rudeness to service staff (Victoria), looking down on others' views (Julia), rude to mom or animals (Julia), condoms visible on first date (panel discussion).

Transcript

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Bella (valarama TV)guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age occupation and also where you're from yeah go ahead I'll set it off sure hey

Bella (valarama TV)my name is Bella I go by valarama TV um I'm from the state of Arizona I'm in my 20s and my occupation is I'm a twitch streamer uh when you say you're in your

Brian Atlas20s what's your actual age 69 what's your what's your uh like actual age though over the age of 21 . okay yes why do you not want to reveal

Bella (valarama TV)your actual age here's the deal I feel like as a twitch streamer and as a content creator because you put so much of yourself you know in public there are certain things to keep private

Bella (valarama TV)exactly can you explain that further um well it's because I have a personal life and I like to keep it personal certain things but other things I'm completely fine revealing

Brian Atlaswhat are the other things that you're completely fine revealing uh uh like for example where I went to college say it again I said that ass yeah yeah well I mean you do adult content so I

Brian Atlasmean you're you're comfortable sharing your body yeah your body but not something as arbitrary as your age correct why just for personal reasons

Brian Atlasfor comfortable reasons you know privacy well I mean you speak of privacy but isn't like posting nude photos quite the antithesis of privacy um I guess it's whatever you feel

Bella (valarama TV)comfortable showing and there are certain things you're not okay like for example specific things about your past but I'm comfortable sharing my body showing my body so um so you said you're

Brian Atlasin your 20s yes mid-20s late 20s early 20s yes okay okay um well I mean the reason I give you

Brian Atlaspushback is because uh if you're uncomfortable sharing sharing your age what it's a pretty basic biograph basic biographical information

Brian Atlasmost likely you're gonna figure it out by the end of the stream anyways so how would I figure it out by the end of the stream by asking me the right questions well I'm not I'm not I'm not particularly interested in doing some

Brian Atlasasking you about historical facts to try to decipher what your age is but so yeah it's more so just a curiosity why absolutely because I I don't I don't uh as far as I'm aware I don't think

Brian Atlasthere's any potential uh security concerns when it comes to revealing one's age truth yeah but again it's about just what I feel comfortable sharing fair enough okay what about you okay

Elizabethmy name is Elizabeth I am born

Brian AtlasI am a model dress age 23 23. thank you for sharing your age much appreciated thank you much

Brian Atlasappreciated thank you for that attacks um and you said you're from like grew up in born in L.A yeah I'm born and raised here gotcha yeah okay um what about you

Julia Lynn Sandovalsorry it's just shy this is Bella

Julia Lynn Sandovalthose long walks on the beach she's single and I'm just kidding hi I'm Julia I am

Julia Lynn Sandoval26. thank you I needed that tough crowd I'm 26 and I'm from Colorado and I live in LA currently what else would you want to know

Julia Lynn Sandovalname age occupation and where are you from uh content creator and I dabbled with music uh acting

Julia Lynn Sandovalmodeling stuff in the entertainment industry also we're gonna get to it so I haven't only fans yes link is in the bio actually Lynn Sandoval on Instagram um

Brian Atlasthat's lovely what about you

TaylorTaylor um I'm 25. I'm from Florida and I'm a kick streamer would you stream on Kik bikini content and so your age was 25

Brian Atlasyou said yes okay well first off Julia thank you for disclosing your age and thank you for disclosing your age much appreciated um sorry and you stream mud on Kick bikini

Taylorcontent bikini content so like hot tub streams or yeah I do like everything in a bikini so I'll like cook in a bikini uh I don't even use a hot tub at this point because cake doesn't require a body of water like twitch which is

Victoriareally cool so I just have like a whole L twitch which is whack okay uh got it what about you I'm Victoria I am a twitch streamer and only fans creator

VictoriaI am Canadian but I live in San Diego are you from the French speaking or no I'm from Vancouver so that's like two hours north of Seattle okay uh age I have different reason than you though

Victoriabecause I feel like I'm a little bit older but not like and I feel like just like women are like always like given like an expiry date like if you're after like a certain age then suddenly

Victoriayour content is no longer like relevant and I don't I I feel like I'm relevant in my own bubble but I just don't range

Brian AtlasI'm in my 30s so you're 40. no definitely I'm just going to write down 40 for you and then you're I'm just going to say you're 30. how about that 69. it's all down here downhill from

Brian Atlasthere okay um well I mean I've definitely heard that from women where you know typically women who are perhaps a bit older might feel a little hesitant to share their age but for you for you for example I

Brian Atlassuspect you're in your 20s typically you don't hear that from women who are in their 20s who are uncomfortable sharing their age for that for those reasons uh what about

Sadieyou I'm Sadie I'm 20. I'm from San Luis Obispo California and I'm in college uh what do you study I'm a Communications major common major okay

Brian Atlasrock and roll yeah okay cool uh we're gonna go around the table one more time so what is your current relationship status are you single friends with benefits talking stage situationship

Bella (valarama TV)relationship uh and also what's your longest relationship and if you're single how long have you been single yes so I'm single and my longest

Bella (valarama TV)relationship has been four years and I have been single for one and a half years okay what about you

Elizabethum I am technically single I have never been in like a relationship in my life I never had a boyfriend so technically single yeah I wasn't

Elizabethsingle okay so single single never had a boyfriend no I don't think I've ever been on like a girlfriend no no girlfriend okay

Elizabethyou've never been straight you've never been on a date I think I've been on like a romantic date ever in my life like I think I count like

Brian AtlasFred okay so no sure um and I in your bio that you provided to us I mean maybe you undersold yourself it says that you were uh you got gold five times as a U.S ice skater

Brian Atlasyes I'm a two times double gold medalist I'm a five-time U.S national competitor okay yeah congrats are you still skate or have a knee injury or what happened

Elizabethno I've accomplished as much as I wanted in skating okay and I could because I'm very ambitious I wanted to try to keep driving up and that introduced me into

Elizabethpageantry I was Miss Orange County okay Miss OC Miss OC yes rock and roll oh thank you and uh after

Elizabethum pageantry I went straight into um modeling and acting like I was um Maxim I was on the cover Maxim magazine I think in 2021 and then I've

Brian Atlasworked with American Horror Story NYX American Horror Story American Horror Story a horror horror sorry I misheard I miss her you mean the series yeah yeah yeah that thing okay were you one of

Brian Atlasthem I've never seen the show I mean I've heard of it but like were you one of them are there monsters I was the creepy doll I was bald you were bald

Elizabethyeah okay good times that must have been fun um and so were there any Olympic Ambitions is there ice skating in the Olympics Olympics I think so yes yes yes I was I was in the youth Olympics I

Brian Atlasdidn't do like the Olympic Olympics Olympics yeah okay gotcha but so you uh so you're 23 and you said you you've been single your whole life never had a boyfriend never even been on a romantic date

Elizabethum why do you think that is I think it's because of my as you can see like I'm just very like goal driven like I've been so occupied throughout my life

Elizabethwith just accomplishing things and I think figure skating definitely took a lot of my you know discipline right I learned discipline at a very young age so like I remember like waking up at 6am

Elizabethevery morning and I was like seven oh six or seven I woke up at six every morning to go hit the skating rink and then I went straight to school after school I went back to the skating rink did homework in the car and then repeat

ElizabethI slept at like eight and repeat it again every single day and this was at seven is there like piano lessons anywhere of course I had piano okay and on piano cello

Elizabethviolin piano violin got it ballet gymnastics oh okay track and field are you an only child no I am a sister one younger sister two older brothers

Brian Atlasone younger sister oh I misheard that did anybody else hear something never mind okay um uh so but okay so you've been uh you

Brian Atlassaid one younger brother one younger sister no why one younger sister two older brothers okay gotcha gotcha um so it sounds like you think you were single because you

Brian Atlasincredibly preoccupied you still are preoccupied you're very busy with your work and whatnot um what is the longest period of time that you've had I mean you've seen a guy you said you've never been on a romantic

Elizabethdate but it's plausible that you could have had like a a situationship or something I guess I was close to like a friend that was a guy for like a little period of time that's a pretty reason like a

Elizabethfriends with benefits or you want to call it that I I just it's for me I categorize you as a friend or not you know what I mean because I want

Elizabethto like if I was to put myself down into a relationship I want to I guess because actually like anybody that I meet this is just my habit I I would like to know them as a friend first

Elizabethbecause I want to know who they really are as a person right sure to get to know them like I'm not one like when I see somebody the honestly the last thing I think about is to sleep with them you know I mean like I don't really don't care about that about sleeping

Elizabethwith somebody yeah I don't care about that are you waiting till marriage um I want to save myself to like to my number one person you know what I mean so and you haven't found your number one person yet yeah

Brian Atlasbasically okay so not waiting till marriage but you want to be in love or so yeah I want to make sure commitment with or something yeah okay so you've never hooked up with anybody um

Brian Atlasyes you have or no you okay good times don't hear that every every day on the show congratulations um okay so never even a date because I

Brian Atlasmean you're an attractive girl I'm sure some guys have shown interest in you but yeah I I just curve them I've been with um I don't know every time I go out it's Marley with a group of friends it's not really like

Elizabethto wear it's like 101 and also the thing is like I have a very protective parents you know you still live at home yeah I do okay that's the thing protective parents

Elizabethgood luck you know like I know like you could probably like me [Music] if I'm like my mom and dad you know like yeah gotcha um

Brian Atlasinteresting okay so I mean what is the is there any romantic experience you've had in in the sense of I mean you said you've never been on a date has a guy asked you out and you

Elizabethsaid no I assume that's happened yeah I guess so but then I I would like usually explain to them that I'm into looking uh to like becoming friends

Elizabethfirst if that's okay with you you know like I prefer that way before jumping start into a relationship because like if I do want to jump start I kind of like want to make sure that because also

Elizabeththe truth is like I don't want to break the other person's heart or either my heart right isn't like our feelings on the lines you know what I mean like if it was to jump into a relationship I want to know for sure you are my guy and

Brian Atlashim to know that you are my girl right so then basically if I was to jump into a relationship it would lead to marriage you know okay yeah gotcha uh okay so I'm

Julia Lynn Sandovaljust saying that uh what about you Julia um first congratulations congrats on all your accomplishments and you have yeah

Julia Lynn Sandovalthat's awesome um for me I am currently in a relationship I'm in my I have my first relationship actually um I was very similar to you where I had never really

Julia Lynn Sandovalhad a boyfriend um I'm 26 or really gone on a date much until I moved to LA two years ago

Julia Lynn Sandovaland um I've been with my boyfriend now for seriously like in a committed relationship for about four months so since the last time I was on the show

Julia Lynn Sandovalstill were you single when you when you were on the show last no I came on and I was like I'm actually talking to some relationship oh okay so you guys are still together

Brian Atlasand you said it's been about four months and that's that's your first ever anything well not maybe not anything but your first ever relationship I've had situationships before okay I was very

Julia Lynn Sandovalyou and me are very similar when I first moved to LA I was the same I hadn't really been on a date um kind of would you know talk to people online stuff like that but

Julia Lynn Sandovalum I moved to LA and then I started kind of going on dates a little bit more and um yeah two years later I found someone who's so is this properly sorry to cut you off there is this properly a

Brian Atlasrelationship or is it a situationship no this is a relationship proper okay so you guys are committed to each other exclusive yes okay congrats um what about you

Taylor[Music] oh I'm single and and my longest relationship was five years what was the other question uh how long have you been single oh I've been single

Brian Atlassince October of last year October of so of 2022 yes okay so what eight months nine months ish yeah okay

Victoriayeah got it uh what about you I'm married uh how long have you guys been married five years probably longer than that I can't count it's five years six years

Brian Atlasokay and you're 40. so you got married at 35. is that right we've been together for like 10 years now okay 10 years got it okay how did

Victoriayou guys meet uh I used to watch them play World of Warcraft on Twitch I was a fan you used to watch him play World of Warcraft on on Twitch is he like a big twitch streamer he was uh do you know

Brian Atlasare you familiar with World of Warcraft yeah

Victoriamy husband is uh do you know about like raids and stuff like that Lich King world first is my husband he was in blood Legion he's Esports well I mean I'm more of like I'm like a classic Andy

Brian Atlaswhen it comes to World of Warcraft so I'm not like I'm a wild nerd after I quit kind of before TBC you know so like yeah not really my thing but okay so okay he's do you want to drop his can

Victoriayou drop us I mean he's retired now but he's Alan on Twitch he's who Alan Alien Allen he's one of the original four from Justin TV oh no yeah that's awesome so if you are familiar with switch and you type the brokeback amount that's his

Victoriaface he's the first twitch emote that's not stuff oh okay wait so but he doesn't stream anymore he's like low-key on my stream but he's like retired he's retired okay gotcha um but does he does he still play World

Brian Atlasof Warcraft no he plays Lost Ark now though oh okay well like you said he was like a Chad Raider yeah when he was like playing he's he quit that though like in

Brian Atlaslike what what uh what class did he play a hunter he pretty much quit as soon as I'm irredeemable no that's cool cool all right uh that's very cool so but you met him through

VictoriaWorld of Warcraft yeah so you were watching his streams so did you like how did you were you already on his realm no I was in his twitch chat okay someone

Victoriasaid oh she's a girl and he said let me check her out and then he was like she's fake and I said no I'm real he's like well then come see me so he flew me out that same week to San Diego

Brian Atlasto come meet him wait okay so you were you were in his twitch chat yes he was screaming you were like that yes I love this yeah and uh oh I thought because I thought maybe

Brian Atlasyou also played World of Warcraft I do play well I was I was watching him like a fan would watch okay sure but so did you like create a character on his realm and like no no I didn't no no I was in his twitch chat talking in his twitch

Brian Atlaschat okay yes okay and so he flew you out a week later yeah and now y'all are married yeah and then we stream together yeah this was in 2012. this is that's

Victorialike the early days of yeah okay wow Good Times wow and then we streamed together for like 10 years and then during covert he retired and now I'm

Brian Atlasdoing all the things okay what what class did you play I play a pro Warrior prop yeah I'm a tank tank okay gotcha good okay well what about you I'm

Sadiein a relationship relationship for almost two years now two years okay and you said you're 20 right so 20 yeah in high school or I've actually

Sadieknown him since elementary school he's my brother's friend and so he's two years older than me and in high school we didn't like talk it was like nothing

Sadieand then when I graduated is when we kind of just like reconnected and we started dating and he's my first boyfriend so first boyfriend okay gotcha gotcha okay

Brian Atlascool all right that's everybody's relationship status so a couple of you do adult content right I believe you you you and you and then not you and then not you um really quick just because I'm curious

Bella (valarama TV)um how much y'all make on the of not enough but more than twitch because

Brian Atlastwitch takes 50 off your subs and stuff okay so like range like five figures a month six figures a month um let's just say well it really depends

Bella (valarama TV)but um it depends on month right per month wait do you want just like on a web per month is that what you're looking for um so like it can range from like 2K and up

Brian Atlasokay Julia um I do well I do well okay you do well all right six figures a month have you had the six figure month

Julia Lynn Sandovaluh uh close but no close but no without you so a little closer to Mike oh it's fun um

Taylorso I don't do like I don't I don't post nude exactly on my homepage so I don't make as much on of as I do streaming

Brian Atlasso streaming's your primary okay yeah streaming is my got it okay um and then are any of you in like the

Brian Atlastop percent you know top point one point level yeah but isn't that like doesn't that include all accounts on the

Victoriaplatform like that includes people that don't even make content right they say that that percentage is based also on engagement it's not all monetary so like if you have likes and stuff like that

Brian Atlasand not necessarily tips and stuff like that it can boost your percentage so if you were like if someone was only making say like 300 a month on only fans would that put them in like top two

Brian Atlaspercent or something probably no that would be like the top six percent yeah top six percent that's still I mean that's pretty much just top six percent that's nothing to scoff at majority of people have a hard time monetizing from

Brian Atlasuh friendly sites for sure okay yeah yeah that kind of reminds me of I mean I guess I'm sure the girls that are like top 0.1 percent are making good money yeah but like I feel like people

Brian Atlasthat try to claim and I don't know if they do this they'll claim top five percent it's like people who are self-employed who have no employees or one employee who call themselves CEO

Bella (valarama TV)it's like you're not a CEO you know true oh no you guys probably see dudes or like I'm a CEO it's like no you're not you're well like for example you can take amaranth as an example she was very open about it she actually

Bella (valarama TV)makes around one meal per month Oh Yeah from her yeah only fans alone oh yeah exactly yeah she's she's doing yeah she's rolling there it's probably one of

Brian Atlasthe popular ones doing it good okay um let's see I had uh I think I had something here that I wanted to ask let's see uh so

Brian Atlason your Instagram you're in a you're in a relationship right now uh when you're gonna post your boyfriends because it's been four months you watching my stories every day because you would see him no I don't I

Brian Atlasdon't watch I mean I need you to stop my account hard Brian I took I took five minutes to look at it before before the show so I don't see your boyfriend anywhere what's up he's there I post him on myself nope well okay on your story

Julia Lynn Sandovalbut are you ever gonna post him in the actual uh like a little photo you know yeah I think um when we uh we're planning on traveling a bit so I'll I'm

Julia Lynn Sandovaldown to like do because the the content that I post is very you yeah but it's like an aesthetic like it's like a majority of my photos it's something I I would want to be able to be painted and

Julia Lynn Sandovalput on a wall if that makes sense like it's more of an aesthetic like female body art Vibe and so yeah for sure I'm down to I've taken photos of him and um

Julia Lynn Sandovaldoes he post you on his Instagram does he have an Instagram yeah but he does a lot of Fitness content so um his around that sure okay the majority of his content is like him working out I

Julia Lynn Sandovalthink we've done one video together and I shared it to of us like working out together because okay you're gonna create uh of content with

Brian Atlashim I already have oh you have okay have you done content with guys in the past or is this the first time you've done BG content good lingo you got the league

Julia Lynn Sandovalyeah I'm trying to avoid you know um yeah this is my first time okay um I didn't plan on doing it either um who has more followers

Julia Lynn Sandovalyou were him oh my gosh come on I'm just doing the calculus of uh like um both have good platform

Julia Lynn Sandovals it's more money you or him we both do well Brian isn't it you're digging you make more money right uh we both do well okay fair

Brian Atlasenough fair enough um okay so I think uh and maybe we'll touch on this a little later on in the show uh last show you said actually I

Brian Atlasdon't wanna I don't wanna go there well you you said that you used to be larger yeah previously but then you got like on this Fitness kick and you got

Brian Atlassuper into shape um I don't know where I'm really going with that uh it's there just take a second is there photo is there a photo on your

TTS ReaderInstagram uh not my Instagram but on my Facebook I have like photos but when you say you were like bigger like were you obese or just like a little oh hold on just a second that's underscore X donated

TTS Reader100.69 Brian good to you see the dance stressed out like a mofo and that the panel is in good faith great to see Julia back I

Brian Atlasmissed the 40 is the new 26 Vibes figure skater chick do you like Opera do you like Opera

Brian AtlasOpera he wants to take you to the Opera do you accept his invitation

Brian Atlasuh he's the guy bad zxe in the chat you might have to do an Instagram review buddy um

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Brian Atlasum so a bad zxe would he's invited you for an opera date do you accept honestly I'm kind of open like I feel

Elizabethlike I've kind of like trapped myself for a bit you know you've trapped yourself as in like kind of like not like giving guys a chance right because like I always

Elizabethokay maybe it's my habit friend zoning someone I mean so maybe so you're ready to mingle not mingle let's just talk you know get to know who you are I'm okay with that

Brian Atlasshe's ready to start wait you friend zoned so you friend zoned a lot of guys is that what what's up yeah I guess you could see how many men oh sorry go ahead

Elizabethhonestly like only because like I'm so busy with my work to where I feel like I would like do I feel bad like just giving in like I don't know 30 of my time you know what

ElizabethI mean if it was to jump into like dating I feel like you both have to be set in your career to where you could date like 100 percent is what I feel okay

Brian Atlasum how many guys would you say you friend zoned quite a bit like a hundred plus two hundred a thousands like give us a

Brian Atlasnumber my DMs are a lot should I say like well enough can you count just a random dude dming you as a like friend zoning that like if you turn them down is that

Brian Atlasa friend zone probably not that friend zone are you being like a connection I mean I'd say a friend zone there would at least be some in-person connection whether it was a guy meeting you on somewhere in the public or at the bar

Julia Lynn Sandovalyeah I don't know if you do that thousands and thousands of plus thousands and thousands but friend I've but friend zoning isn't necessarily like a bad thing Angel because it doesn't mean you're stuck there that's the thing

Julia Lynn Sandovalyeah that's why you're kind of stuck there no no no no you're stuck in the front no no there's no getting other friends it depends on the duration but this is good like I feel like like I'm talking to my younger self a little bit

Julia Lynn Sandovaltalking to you because I always thought that like I'm never gonna find someone like immediately it's the immediate attraction and like yeah like if I'm not into them right away like no if like someone came to me and they were like

Julia Lynn Sandovalinto me and I was kind of attracted to them like that would be the person but literally like how I got into a relationship was it was somebody I got to know their values and who they were as a person and obviously they were

Julia Lynn Sandovalattractive but it was just friends and and now we have such a sturdy Foundation but I think you bring up a good point you have the initial attraction but you had the initial attraction I feel like if you didn't have the initial

Julia Lynn Sandovalattraction they would be in a friend zone and stuck there I don't think they'll be able to get out I didn't have the initial no because there's different types of Attraction there's the like holy I want to rip your clothes off right now attraction and then there's like that he's super cute and has a good

Julia Lynn Sandovalbody and I'm not gonna lie and I've even told my boyfriend this like I was like I always thought you were attractive never in a million years did I think we'd be right here and he even felt the same way about

Julia Lynn Sandovalme doing BG content on oaf hell yeah okay okay she's like can't relate to that part

Elizabethfor me it's like just that term friends and like I don't like seeing that term it's more like can you just be friends first you mean like that's why I like to say and kind of get to know who you are but I think there's a difference between

Brian Atlaslet's try to be friends first and friend zoning I think friend zoning is like it's pretty apparent I can't really it's pretty apparent that there's no like you're not attracted to them and I

Brian Atlassuppose it's plausible maybe they level up or maybe the woman's circumstances change where they're like oh I'm 35 I'm desperate you know whatever the it is no no offense to anybody um but

Brian Atlaslike uh whereas to start as friends is like he's he's attractive let's see yeah yeah I guess you could I think that's terrible though I think that's I'm not I don't agree with starting his friends I

Elizabeththink it should be romantic from the start yeah really because I agree for me I feel like I feel like you always need some sort of foundation to even continue a relationship like don't you want your

Sadielike significant other to be like technically your best friend I feel like that turns into that like the more you date but like if you're it's always every time like you're friends with like the person you might like be dating it's

Brian Atlaslike oh but we don't want to ruin our friendship and it always that's is like that's always said I I don't think your approach is wrong I'm just saying I my personal view is I don't I don't think

Brian Atlasuh I I don't think it's necessary to start as friends okay but so what would you call them yeah what do you mean as in like if you see a guy then then you

Elizabethjust like you see him like what would you call him friendly you're friendly but yeah you're like flirting well it depends what your your goals are I mean it says like I mean you're remind me did you say you

Brian Atlaswere religious or not you're religious I'm Catholic you're Catholic okay um so and you didn't as far as I recall you didn't say you are waiting till marriage oh wait I

Elizabethwould wait till you're in love but not till you're married yeah to him love yeah yeah okay okay but marriage is not necessary no marriage is how strictly Catholic are you

Brian AtlasCatholic but okay not like not wait till marriage to the pedestal to the top tier I like that okay so

Brian Atlasas far as how you would start off with a guy but not start just being friends I mean because there's a difference between hanging out someone who's a friend and

Brian Atlashanging out someone that you want to pursue things with romantically now that doesn't mean that you have to immediately have sex with them that can that can wait but yeah yeah I understand so would you call like

Brian Atlasa situationship like what would you call that oh it doesn't even have to be a situationship but there can be there can be a clearer there could be a very clear understanding by both parties that yeah

Brian Atlasthis is a romantic relationship not a platonic relationship like we are dating each other and as far as like the even if you're waiting

Julia Lynn Sandovalhowever long to become intimate you know that's that's another conversation I think like your guys's view on like friends and like ours may be a little bit skewed and that's what's like I think we all agree but it's the friends

Julia Lynn Sandovallike the definition of friends like for me uh I was going to a gym that my boyfriend started and he was training there he trained me and that's how I got to know Bradley Martin is that your boyfriend

Julia Lynn Sandovalthat's how uh I got to know him okay and so of course it was a professional environment we're friends it's not like I'm like going and eating lunch with him and like we're like besties you know but it's friendly and so maybe that's kind

Julia Lynn Sandovalof yeah you mean I think that's it's friendly it's in a situation where I get to see this person's values and get to know him and at his core yes opposed to like him coming up to me and being like

Julia Lynn Sandovalhey like what's your number like let's go to dinner like it was just it was it's not like we were friends but it was friendly

Sadiewould you still put a label like as friendly just like for friends or like because like I'm friendly with you guys I feel like but we're not like you're not we're not friends there's no potential that you might date

Bella (valarama TV)one of us it's kind of like that well it's like when you're seeing someone who's friendly a guy right you're like okay I'm kind of interested in him like more than just friends like romantically right so I do feel in some sort of

Bella (valarama TV)Attraction not like rip your clothes off but some sort of Attraction you know and it's like yeah you just try to get to know each other you kind of flirt and stuff like that and then once you like okay this is actually a cool person then

Julia Lynn Sandovalyou move on to like let's be actually like romantic romantic yeah but I wasn't used to like what I was used to is like a guy would ask me out and I think he was like hot and then I'd get to know him and like see what his values were like what I did differently this time

Julia Lynn Sandovaland what landed me in a relationship that I actually see a future a long long future with is the fact that we were friendly and I got to know his values were so attractive to me that like I

Julia Lynn Sandovalwanted more of it and I was like and he's really cute but that wasn't the cute and like the looks was not the initial thing yes personality person so it's like yeah hard for me yeah

Taylorshe understands me I don't I don't care how cute you are like we are if your personality is not there it's not for me not for me true personality is huge well I mean

Brian Atlastrue I think I think that's the case but I mean would you agree that the looks have to be there oh to begin with no no

Taylorno no no no it's not the cap but like how big is like attraction there has to be I'm like 100 a personally personally you say that okay

Julia Lynn Sandovalsay that hold on let me look up Alan here let's see he's probably he's probably a giga Chad listen I'm not gonna lie though like sex is a very large part of relationship and like you have to identifically attractive no but

Julia Lynn Sandovallike the thing is like it can be so good that it like it just changes the game it does that's a giga chat right there

Brian Atlasfirst off he's making that's not a fair I'm sure he's very handsome I can't even find him on who am I I don't know okay in any case Alan zoka no it's not Alan zoka no okay

Bella (valarama TV)there's another Allen on Twitch apparently who I can't find alien on Twitter okay a-l-a-n okay well in any case um I think attraction does play a role like

Bella (valarama TV)uh you know if you don't find a guy attractive when he approaches you sometimes you're kind of like I kind of don't want to even talk to you I feel like there has to be some sort of level of like all right you're kind of cute

Sadieyeah so I just feel like you say you're a personality person and so don't you find them attractive because of the person 100 so it's like they build that they build that all up for me it's like

Julia Lynn Sandovaltheir personality just makes them even more exactly because like yeah I fall for a guy sure funny right of course but I genuinely have this thing and I looked it up and I forget what the name of it is and maybe you guys relate where like

Julia Lynn SandovalI could see anyone could walk down the street and my friends would literally be like holy that guy is so hot and I'm like not even like notice and then I get to know someone I'm like wow he's so hot

Victoriawhat the like or just has like attractive energy like not like physical like sexiness but just like he pulls you I feel like he's got that wrist right I feel like the physical attraction is good for like okay maybe I'll give this

Bella (valarama TV)person a chance but like personality plays a role in I want to actually like potentially date them of course yeah so I don't think you can necessarily completely avoid the physical attraction

Brian Atlasyeah but how many girls will ignore red flags if a guy is exceptionally attractive you'll see people who say talking about me right now well you'll see for example

Brian Atlasyou'll see these uh either Tick Tock videos or you'll hear it from from women themselves and look men do this too but if if he's over 6'3 like I'm gonna start ignoring red flags like that that type

Brian Atlasof like girls will Overlook certain negative personality characteristics if a guy is exceptionally attractive and certainly I think men will do that too like if a girl is really hot a lot of dudes if the chick if she's kind

Brian Atlasof or whatever they might be like ah yeah she's kind of I mean I think that's I don't think men should do that but there are men out there who will disregard so for example say a woman who's kind of uh they'll

Victoriadisregard that if she's really hot and they'll tolerate for an unaware individual yeah for sure you could do that with personality too like I don't mean to like talk my husband down because he's amazing and I love him to death but like you can Overlook certain

Victoriathings physically too my husband's 5'5 like based wait how tall are you I'm five three okay too interesting but I wear like five I'm literally wearing like five inch shoes yeah but he's like

Brian Atlashe has King energy though yeah I mean he's it sounds like he's like a giga Chad World of Warcraft player so like I mean it makes me playing wow and Friends it makes sense that doesn't Define him okay fair enough um but you were saying

Brian Atlasthat that does apply to you like you'll ignore red flags if the guy's really attractive and I mean look I think um girls know if they're DTF went like

Taylorimmediate almost immediately I think it's more so in my mind I'm like I can change him even though I know that's like toxic and I shouldn't that's my talk toxic trait is I feel like oh I can

Taylorchange him but like there's this one guy who took me out for Valentine's Day and he literally told me first date um I've broken up with every girl that I've ever dated in my longest

Taylorrelationship with six months and I was like oh okay and I still you know when's our second date yeah yeah I had I had sex with him for like two months and

Bella (valarama TV)then he ended things with me and I was like super sad about it but I was like you know but were you just like with him for sex or were you like actually ready

Taylorhe like loved bomb me like he was funny you know I don't want to abandon you like I wanna um meet all your needs I like you to the

Taylorpoint where it scares me blah blah blah and I was like oh okay but but then I should have known from the start because of what he said so yeah I don't know I like just going back to

Brian Atlasthe whole friend thing I don't think that you're going to be able to Fringe your way into romance into like turning a girl on or moving it into a romantic thing yeah

Bella (valarama TV)there must be a spark there's got to be a spark yeah no I feel like once your friends you won't be able to escape it sorry sorry repeat that yeah I think if you're as a guy if you're in a friend zone you're going to be stuck in a friend zone I don't think you can

Bella (valarama TV)actually yeah I think you're done yeah it's better to move on something big would have to happen together exactly yeah so you have to be like friendly but never get into a friend zone if you're friend zone you're you're done you won't be able to

Bella (valarama TV)actually move into a romantic relationship with the girl yes okay

Brian Atlaslook it's possible to get out of the friend zone however I think the the practically speaking it's better to just find another girl as a guy like it's

Julia Lynn Sandovaljust play the numbers game for sure but it's not it's not uh if the girl actually has like uh isn't aware human being and actually has more substance to her than just what she looks like then

Julia Lynn Sandovalyou can definitely friend zone isn't like like but you have to have going on for you too and you guys have to match up lifestyle wise and there's more to it but yeah like I don't say friends and like I

Elizabethfriend someone only because I'm always traveling like I cannot like I could barely see you you know what I mean I probably will see you like once in four months like I can't I can't be how much are you traveling I travel a lot

Elizabethand I I also run an international business so what's the business uh I run a supermarkets throughout Asia so yeah I am a business girl I am my whole family

Elizabethdo adults different countries Vietnam throughout Asia China Vietnam

Elizabethyeah I'm looking yeah yeah Philippines Philippines all down there you are you the owner uh this is like a real babies or like my brother and I started it

Brian Atlaserrands so then we all take care of it it's a supermarket what is it grocery stores early convenience just just it's like a normal thing it's not like a niche like you import American

Brian Atlasfood no no no okay it's not like okay specialty things okay yeah and but so it's your family's business or you said you and your brother started it yeah okay

Brian Atlasso you're you're 23 yes and in your only I mean I don't know when you start when did you start the business

Brian Atlasfive years ago when you were 18. six years ago so you were 17 yeah I was like right right after skating yeah in this

Brian Atlasso in a six year period you've you've managed to build a multi-country what's the term for that

Bella (valarama TV)what a multi-country successful International is it is it International is pant weight Pan Pacific that would

Elizabethinclude is that how old is right what's the term there's like a specific term but 33. he's 33 and he's he's a pharmacist right now he's a pharmacist he's a pharmacist yeah bro how do you

Brian Atlashave how do you have time for all the yeah you're an ice skater I don't have time give me a time management course but wait so okay hold on how many how

Bella (valarama TV)many individual stores do you own like hundreds like a lot hundreds yeah how do you in a I mean most business I mean they own it they don't run it you

Brian Atlasknow what I mean like they don't know running for sure I'm sure you have yeah there's there's uh probably the siblings are but I I've never heard I mean I I don't know how uh

Brian Atlasefficient you guys are but for a business that just started six years ago to have to be established in multiple uh countries and have over a hundred stores is did you take over in a pre-existing business

Elizabethyes friends like it's kind of like when you kind of grow because it's like him and his friend they had an idea yeah so then a branched out it basically ideas

Brian Atlascollaged and did you did you do Acquisitions of pre-existing stores yeah you'd take over you'd take over a store that's already there okay I see yeah are you able to share the name of this

Brian Atlasand if I'm ever if I'm ever in everything like my brother's gonna kill me I was gonna say if I was ever in like uh if I was ever in uh he's like a pro hacker

Brian Atlasand everything like uh if I was ever in Ho Chi Minh I'll stop by your grocery store and buy some I'll be a patron of your store I go to Ho Chi Minh yeah what are the best Goods you don't think so what are

Brian Atlasthe best candy no is it still cold is it still called Ho Chi Minh City that's the capital right of Vietnam yeah yeah sweet yeah okay

Elizabethused to be Saigon used to be Saigon yeah uh okay actually my parents they escape from the Vietnam War like we we didn't grow you know I mean your

ElizabethVietnamese yeah yeah this escape from the Vietnamese Vietnam War yeah um I remember they had to leave their parents behind my dad he basically

Elizabethum he went to the shelter Camp he remembered he had to leave his dog I think his friends all are like he had like 10 people on the boat I think only two survived him and someone

Brian Atlaselse and the rest wow gone yeah I mean that's that's certainly the story of a lot of Vietnamese American immigrants I mean they were escaping the Vietnam War so

Brian Atlasum but I mean well I don't want to dig too far but I mean that's quite uh I mean to in a six-year time period to scale up a business uh to have be in multiple countries and

Brian Atlashave hundreds of stores that's that's quite remarkable so I'm not surprised that you're quite busy but so you're traveling most of the year you're also doing modeling and yeah and acting

Brian Atlasum so you're you're 23 do you want the family at down the road for sure you want to have kids yeah um how long do you want

Brian AtlasI mean you're still young but I mean do you think that being do you have any intentions at some point in your 20s to scale back how much time you're

Brian Atlasyou're putting towards your Enterprises your business making money and pursuing like putting more towards actually trying to pursue a relationship [Music] I think

Brian Atlascommitting into a relationship okay with you all right gotcha yeah also give me like a few more years okay so you're you'd have time once

Brian Atlasonce a month once every four months to hang out with a guy currently no like I I feel like is that what you said like once every four months like to like guy

Elizabethlike I do like you know what I mean like yeah it's it's so hard that's the thing it's really hard to even make time okay for like someone that you do potentially think

Bella (valarama TV)yeah okay once she makes her multi-millionaires she'll be able to like you know dedicate time to actually go on the dates and pursue a relationship seriously for sure I feel

Brian Atlaslike I will know when I'm ready yeah you know got it uh okay gotcha so uh let's get a couple chats here we have from TJ King ladies would you smash Kratos

VictoriaKratos from like what is it God of War is that right is that Kratos isn't there a Kratos and God of War I'm not I'm not sure who uh Kratos is but I don't know any of those terms

Brian Atlasum oops let me hide that okay we have uh TJ King here I don't sorry TJ I don't know if they know who that is uh what is the benefits the man gets from being friend zoned and that's from TJ King hey

Brian Atlasthank you so much man appreciate the soup chat what is the benefits the man gets from being friend zoned well I'll let the ladies answer this sure first I can go uh no no benefit zero zero

Bella (valarama TV)better but here's the deal I feel like no no no no I have more value like yeah no no here's the deal though I feel like uh this guy who's asking most

Bella (valarama TV)likely he doesn't want to be in the friend zone right he actually wants to be romantically involved and I am going to be from my perspective a girl knows right away who she's willing to date and

Bella (valarama TV)who she is actually friend zoning so in my opinion if you're friend zone I feel like it's pretty much close to impossible to get out of the friend zone so uh if you thinking oh potentially women become romantically involved I

Taylorthink you're wasting your time okay but you get their friendship forever so like if you really like her that much wouldn't you I think that was romantically interested in you is not really interested in friends or like if

Taylorhaving friendships with you because he's actually just wants to romantically date you I would disagree there's a bunch of people in my kick chat that would love to just like talk to me every day and be

Taylorfriends with me oh be careful because that's a parasocial relationship we're talking about so but I feel like iPhone is isn't friend zone just a parasocial relationship in real life kind of no I don't think the person that

Julia Lynn Sandovalgets friend zoned should have their all their eggs in one basket on this one girl but like if you have like a few care about her yeah leave her in your life but like you do need to go out and pursue other people because you're just

Julia Lynn Sandovalshe's clearly stating or stating her boundaries and showing her boundaries and so you should also like be aware of that and respect that I think but well said yeah that's what the benefit would

Sadiebe from being friend zoned um is just not being with that girl then because that was that a benefit I would say because then you can go find someone that's actually gonna like obviously she doesn't want you you can go find

Sadiesomebody that actually wants you will respect you and you won't have to wait in the friend zone forever yeah you're free now like you're sure no way that you're gonna get in so yeah you

Bella (valarama TV)are now like lose that attraction and go find somebody here's one thing that I would come back to you with though I feel like if you're friend zoned right as a guy you're romantically attracted to the girl right but she doesn't and

Bella (valarama TV)isn't interested in you romantically so what if she starts talking to you about her current boyfriends that she's dating the guys that she's interested in if she's flirts with other guys in front of you and stuff like that wouldn't that

Bella (valarama TV)hurt you and like it kind of will bring you confidence level down because I've been in situations where I had a crush on a guy but you know he he wasn't interested in back in me or whatever and

Bella (valarama TV)like seeing him with other people kind of hurt me and so I just feel like in that case it's better to actually just split off and just try to pursue other

Bella (valarama TV)ladies yeah just so you're not wasting your time you're not killing your confidence you know absolutely I wouldn't say friends honestly you're not my friend anymore are you friends on me but actually we're just not friends anymore at all I kind of agree with that

Brian Atlasyeah word okay we have we have uh thank you for the Dono man ladies named three countries besides the U.S Mexico or Canada no repeating other

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