Single Mom Wants Date To PAY For Babysitter?! | Dating Talk #80

Date: 2023-07-03

Duration: 5h 14m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBella (valarama TV)>

EElizabeth (DT96)>

JJulia Lynn Sandoval >

TTaylor (DT80)>

VVictoria (DT80)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_03Bella (valarama TV)(guest)

SPEAKER_04TikTok Video(audience)

SPEAKER_06Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_08Sadie(guest)

SPEAKER_09Julia Lynn Sandoval(guest)

SPEAKER_10Victoria(guest)

SPEAKER_11Taylor(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteElizabeth reveals she is 23, has never had a boyfriend, never been on a romantic date, is a 5-time US national figure skater, double gold medalist, youth Olympian, Miss Orange County, Maxim cover, and acted in American Horror Story. Still lives with protective parents and gives all earnings to family.

“I am a two times double gold medalist, I'm a five-time US national competitor... I was Miss Orange County... I was on the cover of Maxim magazine... I worked with American Horror Story.”

QuoteSadie discloses she witnessed friends having sex with up to 4 guys in one night at SLO frat parties; describes witnessing the acts directly.

“I've never seen someone just like meet somebody and automatically like go to a bedroom... I grew up Christian so I was not... in this world like that.”

QuoteJulia shares that at 18-19 she made out with a photographer in his 40s who used his industry status to groom her; says she now feels it was grooming despite consenting at the time, citing brain development under 25.

“I was getting into modeling, he's a photographer... he abused his power in a sense but I consented... I do feel like I was groomed at 18 years old.”

OtherRatings round: Bella self-rates 8, Julia self-rates 9.5, Victoria self-rates 8 (reluctantly), Sadie self-rates 6.5-7, Brian self-rates 6/6.9. Elizabeth declines number but calls Sadie a 10.

“Bella: eight. Julia: nine or a ten... 9.5. Victoria: eight. Sadie: 6.5-7. Brian: six 6.9 on a good day.”

QuoteTikTok single mom video played on stream: woman demands dates pay for her babysitter, plan creative activities, not invite her daughter, not serve drinks on weekday dates.

“Unless you're offering to pay for the babysitter, I'm not going on that date.”

QuoteBella argues that finding and paying for the babysitter is the single mom's own responsibility if she chooses to participate in dating.

“It's not the guy that potentially might full-time date her... that's not his responsibility. It is yours to find and pay for the babysitter if you actually want to participate in the dating world.”

QuoteVictoria reveals she met her husband (Allen, one of the original four from Justin.TV; face of the BrokeBack Twitch emote; WoW Lich King world-first raider in Blood Legion) by watching him stream and chatting in his Twitch chat; he flew her to San Diego the same week.

“I used to watch him play World of Warcraft on Twitch... Someone said oh she's a girl and he said let me check her out... He flew me out that same week to San Diego to come meet him.”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces the show. Guests introduce themselves: Bella (valarama TV, AZ, Twitch/OF, declines age), Elizabeth (23, LA, model/actress/ice skater), Julia (26, CO/LA, content creator/OF, in first relationship), Taylor (25, FL, Kick streamer), Victoria (married, Canadian in SD, Twitch/OF), Sadie (20, SLO, college student, in relationship). Relationship statuses and OF income discussed.

Body Count and Hookup Culture

Sadie recounts witnessing friends hook up with 3-4 guys per night at SLO frat parties; she remained a virgin until current boyfriend. Panel discusses hookup culture, body count preferences, and whether it matters.

Age Gaps and Grooming

Julia shares experience of making out with a 40s-something photographer when she was 18-19; questions whether consent was truly informed given brain development under 25. Brian notes retroactive regret vs. legal consent distinction. Discussion of brain development and voting age.

OnlyFans Relationship Dynamics

Panel discusses whether men want to date women who do OnlyFans. Arguments about sexual purity vs business, validation from subscribers diminishing partner attention, children and bullying concerns, adam22 open relationship case, top-percentage OF statistics.

Self-Ratings / Looks Scale

Panel rates their own looks 1-10: Bella (8), Julia (9.5), Victoria (8, declines specific number), Sadie (6.5-7), Brian (6/6.9). Elizabeth rates herself implicitly a 10 via Elizabeth rating Sadie as 10.

Single Mom Babysitter Debate

TikTok video played of single mom saying men should pay for her babysitter to earn a date, should not invite her and daughter out, should not expect late-night dates. Panel debates: is it fair to expect date to pay babysitter? Consensus: panel finds it entitled; guest's own responsibility to arrange childcare. Brian notes provisioning for another man's child is sub-optimal.

High-Value Man/Woman Definition

Discussion of what constitutes a "high-value" man (physical, success, character, ambition, values) vs high-value woman (physical appearance, values, character; income less important for women than men).

Dating Apps and Modern Dating

Discussion of dating apps, messaging culture, ghosting, expectations for response speed, relationships starting casual vs committed.

Red Flags Round

Panel shares personal red flags: van lifers (Brian), Instagram-only girls abroad (Julia, sugar daddy implication), impatience/insecurity (Bella), rudeness to service staff (Victoria), looking down on others' views (Julia), rude to mom or animals (Julia), condoms visible on first date (panel discussion).

Transcript

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Julia Lynn Sandovalknow but guys what do you mean guys are trying to be cool and like yeah dude I like three girls last night like not all of them because I see that eyes I see those eyes but typically no I

Bella (valarama TV)think it's kind of lame for a dude to brag about yeah but a lot of them think it's a lot of them think but I think to Elizabeth's point in my opinion like I feel like guys might sometimes Say Hey I want a

Taylorrelationship but they actually don't get a girl to bed yes yeah that's what I think no they they literally do until they do that all the time I think that's awesome that's manipulations wait do you use Tinder

TaylorI don't use Tinder okay wait they say what they'll say I'm open to a relationship or like yeah I'm looking for a relationship just to hook up with you yeah really I don't do the

Taylorone band on Tinder now so yeah I mean I I do think that for women that that's a uh and I I don't really know what the

Brian Atlasanswer is but I think a lot of women will encounter men who will basically front that they're looking for a relationship but in actuality they just want to hook up uh

Brian Atlasso I don't think men should lie about their intentions but they do um yeah and so some women can definitely get tricked in so far as but

Brian AtlasI don't know how many of those women like are genuinely strictly Holding Out for a relationship and then they get duped versus women who who are interested in having a

Brian Atlasrelationship but are also sort of simultaneously kind of engaging in casual sex so perhaps they get they got duped by a guy but they would have actually

Brian Atlasthey were already open to like a casual casual arrangement anyways sure but it's about the intentionality you still have to be honest

Victorialy thank you donated 99 the thing about stepdads is that the stepdad has no discipline over the child yeah I mean that's another thing too

Brian Atlasthey have to figure out yeah yeah yeah here's the thing though that I would say to that is that a single mom she might

Brian Atlasstart looking for her boyfriend to start being fall into the provider rule without having the corresponding

Brian AtlasAuthority so all the responsibility but none of the authority so because she's probably not going to be like okay you can hear you can pay for his babysitter

Brian Atlasbut don't you dare discipline him so it's like as a guy it's like well I have all the responsibility but none of the corresponding Authority that would normally come with being a father so

Brian Atlasright it's just like your buddy and then also the difference is is that like if you do like let's say your stepfather and you start like building a bond a relationship with your stepson or step stepdaughter which you would I assume

Brian Atlasyou would hope that a bond if you do intend on pursuing something long-term with this person um if she breaks up with you um you know if you do build a bond then

Brian Atlasit's kind of like if if the child is biologically yours then you have some you know you can have uh split uh what's the term uh split custody but if it's

Brian Atlaslike her kid um obvious look it's her kid fine but uh you you would have no uh so it's like kind of a double breakup like not only in the same way like if she had a dog and you really liked the

Brian Atlasdog and then there's a breakup it's like I'm not gonna see Bella anymore I'm not gonna see yeah that Mom yeah

Tayloryeah someone here that's in a relationship with them oh yeah bonding like a parental oh yeah like he um I would say like I have two dads I don't even say stepdad at this point you

Sadieknow yeah oh that's cute it's a friend I met my stepdad when I think I was like nine okay because my dad was just like never there I I don't know where he went so how did you guys feel about them

Taylordisciplining you well it's awkward because my step dad and my dad are best friends like they whole they started out as best friends

Brian Atlasalso just just to bring it back what is wrong with your earring hello um I I think just to bring it back really quick to to

Brian Atlasum men duping women like saying they want commitment but not really I think I think women play a role in that because I think a lot of women will sometimes

Brian Atlasguys will be will be honest and say hey I'm not looking for anything serious I just want something casual and then the girl will be like okay that's totally cool because maybe the guy's like super attractive um and he's he's upfront about his

Brian Atlasintentions and the girl will hope well okay I'm he's really attractive so I enjoy the casual this at least I can get this with this guy they enjoy the casual thing with the

Brian Atlashope that down the road he'll have a shift in what he wants but he was honest from the jump he just wants something casual so I think in some cases a lot of women don't want to scare off like a

Taylorhigh value guy by saying she wants commitment right away the mentality she's going to say I'm open I'm open to uh casual no I 100 make it known from the start that I'm looking for a

Bella (valarama TV)relationship every single time yeah I think people need to take personal responsibility and actually communicate that yeah by the way how do you define a high value demand Brian high high value man yeah how would you

Brian Atlasdefine it well I mean there's there's different Realms with which you can look at I mean first off there's I think a physical appearance can be one so a guy who's like really physically attractive

Brian Atlasthat can add to his uh how high value it he is it could be his care well it can be his character it can be his values it can be the way he conducts himself

Brian Atlasum it can be his masculinity it could also be his success it could be his ambition so he just has to be one of those things instead of necessarily I think it's a holistic I think it's uh it

Brian Atlascan be multiple things one could you know if uh maybe he's uh for example I would say like Jeff Bezos um he might not be like the most super

Brian Atlasgood looking guy although he's been working out I I guess but he's he's one of the richest men on on the planet he's built in an insanely successful business I mean this guy's a high value guy but

Bella (valarama TV)he may not be like you know a 10 out of 10 male model yeah so it's kind of like there's various components to it but you're also bringing up an extreme a billionaire but sure yeah so like when it comes to you know everyday guys like

Bella (valarama TV)how would you define like do you have an example of someone like a an everyday guy well how can I give you an example like for example like what would be his salary what would be his look like how

Brian Atlaswould you rate like what would be his um values like how would you classify that sure I mean well again look it could I think if he's I think physical

Brian Atlasattractiveness is can be a component to it but it's sort of the total package right um and if you excel in one dimension of this then you can if if you perhaps lack

Brian Atlasin another you can make up for it but um you know I think having good good values being successful so monitor success sure okay yeah yeah

Elizabethgotcha how would you define a high valued woman then I call myself a high value woman is like what I mean just like at the end should I say a high quality the

Julia Lynn Sandovaldifferent qualities that you contribute to society and to others so it can be from an internal standpoint uh from a mental standpoint from a monetary standpoint from an intellectual standpoint from a

Brian Atlasuh she's like has a whole package physical standpoint yeah yeah I mean I think it my answer is fairly similar when it comes to women the only thing I would differentiate is

Brian Atlasum I think a woman's uh income or financial success is less important than it is for men

Brian Atlasphysical appearance uh values I think yeah that that can be the difference yeah between them you know I don't really I think the term

Brian Atlasheight like high value what is it you know it's kind of eventually yeah a little vague but um by the way I just want to do a shout

Brian Atlasout to uh Vermilion typo and uh RPS uh okay so um yeah so I I mean like you could say it like for example high value woman is

Brian Atlaslike an attractive woman with high relationship potential um and so that that comes down to some personality things her character her values her morals Etc

Brian Atlasum so yeah gotcha all right thank you word in word uh so yeah I guess just to bring it back to the guy you could say Finance

Brian Atlaslike physical problems abilities skills social value reputation so word word um wait what were we talking about

Brian Atlasbefore that though step dad the girl the girls bringing the oh yeah slipped my mind um it was the clip of the video no yeah we were talking about the mom but then

Brian Atlaswe got into a conversation about the dad oh yeah yeah becoming authority of the kids yeah okay well I think we kind of did anyone else have a reaction to that

Victoriathat video why is she she's driving while driving man on Twitch if she did that yeah yeah I mean

Brian Atlasso just I'll give my take on this I I've I don't think I've dated a I haven't had like anything long-term or even short-term with a single mom well

Brian Atlaswhen I say short term like a month or two months or something I have gone on a besides the one date where I went out with a girl and she didn't tell me there was one other girl who I dated

Brian AtlasI think I met her one time single mom and then on our second date we had a date planned out and then she texted me like 30 minutes before the date saying oh my God there's something wrong with my kids you know whatever

Brian Atlassome excuse can't make it so I mean I think that's another reason why it's just like sub-optimal to data some like a single parent because like they're and justifiably so their primary

Brian Atlasfocus is going to be their kid you're going to be lower priority in their life versus someone who doesn't have a kid and of course justify your kid should be

Brian Atlasyour priority but like if if you're dating someone who doesn't have a kid they're gonna give you more of their time and you're going to be a much higher priority on the totem pole so

Bella (valarama TV)yeah so if you have like an option to date again a single woman with no kid versus yeah of course you're gonna go with a single woman okay so yeah I think it would apply out of curiosity um

Julia Lynn Sandovalhow have you I just I would love to know how you have approached a female and asked them on a date or just give me like a couple scenarios of how you guys to female out sure who what when where

Brian Atlaswhy and how like does the whole the whole story yeah okay well I mean recently or like when I was younger because when I was younger this was like before dating apps so I'd like I'd like

Brian Atlasapproach a girl somewhere but um like on the dating app no I haven't put on dating apps for a minute recently like in your past let's just say you're like they DM me hello oh really yeah

Julia Lynn Sandovalthey're raising you off but let's say you're at a bar five dates that you've gone out on or tried to go out on or five girls that yeah they dm'd me yeah you didn't approach any of them though

Victoriain person anything huh you don't approach girls in person I used to he doesn't need to anymore

Julia Lynn Sandovalno I mean okay so for example if I if I met a girl on a dating app what would I like what was like at the bar at The Barley I don't know the last time approached a girl what have you said and

Brian Atlashow have you said it I don't want to I don't want to know well I used to so I mean I used to do like uh when I was younger before dating apps I would approach girls but like after dating apps I was uh yeah so you're like how would I do it I

Julia Lynn Sandovalmean it's been a minute since I've like approached a girl in person but I used to do it okay so now it's been girls dming you because of the podcast before this era prior to that yeah how old were you roughly what do you

Brian Atlasmean prior to the dating apps prior to the dating apps I think dating apps I was probably uh I think I was 23 when like Tinder came

Brian Atlasaround yeah so I yeah like I was eight 18 to 23 I was like properly approaching like I'd approach a girl at a I don't know at

Brian Atlasschool or something that's great so tell us what you you'd say well I'd say yeah you're out at the bar a few drinks honestly I'm super direct so I'd just be like hey what's up thought you were cute are you single

Julia Lynn Sandovalokay have you ever said how to like like a punny like pickup line in person that you can remember oh I've said some dumb yeah I've said some dumb I mean I did a video on this when I was

Brian Atlasdoing like the prank stuff but like um no but real realistic not for a video I mean this is a good one like I you know you could go up to a girl and um you just go up and you say I would

Brian Atlaslove to smear green paint all over you and spank you like a disobedient avocado oh my God Jesus Christ that's a great one no don't say that don't say that um I feel like I did a video on this maybe

Brian Atlaswe could watch the video you know what thank you for bringing that up Eric can you go into the Dropbox folder go into the video the uh podcast folder go into the video folder and then there's a video of me with it's called bad lines

Brian Atlasbad lines let me know when you get that but um yeah as far as just like what my normal go-to I'd just be like go up to girl hey think you're cute are you single because that like a girl might engage in conversation with you and

Brian Atlasactually have a boyfriend like if you approach her like you know some sometimes they're quick with it but sometimes uh if you're trying to like talk to a girl kind of indirectly oh do you know how to get to the library and

Brian Atlasthey'll talk to you and then you can like I think that's kind of I'd just rather I'd just rather get the rejection really quick oh you have a boyfriend come okay nice to meet you didn't know have a good day so when these girls have

Julia Lynn Sandovalmessaged you recently are you the the like are you moving the needle forward like are you the aggressor that's like let's go get food or like I also feel like do you even have to put in a lot of effort nowadays because I feel like you

Bella (valarama TV)know you're more well known because of this podcast so you kind of consider how value meant tell us conversations you wouldn't identify as high value just tell us I think in in some Dimensions I

Elizabetham in in other dimensions I'm lacking I don't think I'm I think I don't think I'm like the uh total package no but overall I feel it's just like an overall feeling it doesn't have to be you have

Brian Atlasto disappear in every single level yeah like I would call you a high value man or hi thank you very much appreciate it why'd you say that the blush

Bella (valarama TV)I'm just being honest okay I know I speak the truth like it's just you have a successful podcast you know your independent man who lives on his own

Bella (valarama TV)with your parents yeah you could take a girl out for dinner um you could potentially settle down and have a kid and stuff like that yeah it's like all the aspects are there yeah funny you're hilarious you have a personality

Brian AtlasI have I have my moments I have my moments but thank you thank you very much for the endorsement that's very nice of you that was a cute moment

Bella (valarama TV)cutest moment of my life good times but do you have to still put an effort like when it comes to like you know hooking up with girls and stuff

Bella (valarama TV)like that or is it effortless now what do you mean put in effort so I feel like um like you know how does the conversation go this is my question yeah

Julia Lynn Sandovalthe last the recent girls that have messaged you how does the conversation go they say hey are you they like hey let's hang out let's go to dinner or are you like hey oh why you're cute I'd

Brian Atlasrather not get into uh like I'd rather not get into any specifics about uh but um unfortunately but uh I'm just eager

Brian Atlasto know I'm intrigued but I mean I would say uh that started in in like January when people like girls started messaging me okay because that's when we started having like clips from the podcast go

Brian Atlasviral but even though I've been doing YouTube for 10 years like even even though I had like a kind of popular channel before the podcast girls really weren't dming me because most my

Brian Atlasaudience was men and it still is but I would say that uh I'm like subscribed to my oaf I would say that Lincoln bio I mean I even though I did YouTube and I

Brian Atlaswas kind of I was a content creator I would say my dating experience up until very recently has been like pretty like pretty normal like the

Brian Atlasnormal average guys experience because I think a lot of women honestly don't give a about that I have a YouTube channel and you could actually argue I mean you're saying well you have a successful

Brian Atlaspodcast I think a lot of women view this podcast as a little controversial and a lot of I think a lot of women are like bro every he's just another dude with a podcast like it's almost a meme like oh it's like a white dude with a podcast

Julia Lynn Sandovalyou know so like there's definitely there's definitely haters too but I think you putting yourself out there because you just like being in your presence you definitely come across as a very like confident well-rounded like

Julia Lynn Sandovalgreat morals like a guy who would be very good to a female and like you have confidence too so putting yourself out there and displaying more of that is definitely gonna real women and more to

Taylorbasically am I confident yeah yeah for sure you have the podcast means you're confident because you're putting yourself on camera like all the time I mean you're trying to get into some like controversial stuff and ruffle feathers

Bella (valarama TV)but in your no I think you're a little shy and stuff like that right so like I'm introverted you are I'm introverted introvert doesn't necessarily means you're shy or not that's actually had nothing to do with it introvert means you lose energy when you hang out with a

Bella (valarama TV)lot of people and stuff like that I think you're a little shy and stuff like that at the beginning and then like you know we kind of have to like talk to you and stuff like it to open you up and but I feel like that just go

Brian Atlasfor it yeah you just you just gotta do it is n't there there's some Stace uh quote something like I'm not saying this to be cocky but I

Brian Atlasfeel like people who are uh I it's something like people who are like dumb have the are or people who are ignorant have the blessing of

Brian Atlasbeing sure of themselves but people who are intelligent are mired in self-doubt constantly questioning themselves there's like a quote can anybody in the chat help me find it but but yeah I mean

Brian AtlasI I and I I consider myself a bit more of a creative so I think creatives tend to have uh are a bit more there's a there's a word for it well Victoria said imposter syndrome yeah no it's not an

Brian Atlasimposter syndrome it's like in order to be a creative individual you have to be sensitive um and not sensitive in the way of like you get offended really easily by things but you're more you're more sensitive to

Brian Atlasthings you're more perceptive I guess how people interpret yeah so um what's good what's bad what's going to be popular what your audience want kind of yeah so but uh thank you very much for the endorsements I very much appreciate

Brian Atlasit I'm going to put that on my my resume but did you have another question for what wasn't the uh you had a question about how I oh we were going to watch the video yeah the

Brian Atlasvideo we'll pull up the video yeah a fool thinks he knows it all a smart man knows he has much to learn I think that's kind of it um let's see what else do we have the problem with the world is that the

Brian Atlasintelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence um yeah

Brian Atlasplus I I don't know if I'm that like anyways I don't know what I'm saying okay okay let's watch the video okay these are some these are some Banger pickup lines go for it I think

Brian Atlasyou dropped something oh your standards hi I'm Brian oh my God my uh sister's in town tonight um would you like to have a threesome no

Brian Atlasbecause of the whole incest thing do you like daggers like nine great daggers have you ever been with a premature ejaculator

Brian AtlasI'm Brian I'm bro I think that'd be a problem between us no hey are you guys feminists sure

Brian AtlasI would like to uh smear green paints all over you and spank you like a disobedient avocado which of you too has uh most standards that could be so problem what

Brian Atlas[Music] oh I'm looking for a girlfriend does the carpet match the curtains yeah that's me [Music]

Brian Atlas[Laughter] okay that's that's it that's great I didn't realize it was you I was like oh yeah that was me a couple years ago okay like a long time

Bella (valarama TV)ago CKY shirt sends the facial hair um I feel like when it comes to dating like pickup lines never work like pickup lines are crazy stuff you should just go to a girl approach her being like hey my

Julia Lynn Sandovalname is Brian nice to meet you do you mind if I buy you a cup of coffee or yes drink good no but if they're cute if you think they're attractive yeah like the pickup line could be pick up line could yeah that means they're funny you know

Brian Atlaswell I think it's just better I think some guys what they'll do is they'll approach a girl with like a sub-optimal they'll either intentionally

Brian Atlastrying to articulate this properly they will intentionally do something a little off to like preempt the rejection so if they do get rejected it's because oh I

Brian Atlasdid this kind of silly thing and it's not because they actually get rejected for them so I think some guys when they do something a little off it's like almost a protection mechanism to protect

Brian Atlasthem because it's like they can just blame like their kind of strange Behavior instead of like actually truly getting rejected for who they are in that moment do you think somebody's actually feathers are coming

Victoriayeah I think in that moment they're actually paying yes oh what the bro you are reigning others from here like you could be like saying the most ridiculous pick-up line but in that moment one

Victoriathat's happening do you really think the person's paying attention to the pickup line or are they looking you up and down and deciding whether or not they want to carry on with the conversation both I think it's like kind of I think I would

Victoriabe paying honestly I would it would just be like won't won't and I'd be like

Bella (valarama TV)what is this guy asking do I just like laugh and then we just like move on to the next thing you know I feel like when some if somebody approaches you like this like just straight away right without you kind of seeing them approach

Victoriawell if they do it right away you're kind of like so shocked that you're focusing so much on their question or whatever they don't think I would be paying attention I know that when they're approaching me that there's something something's happening like

Brian Atlashe's asking me because he's interested in having a conversation and you look and they're like yo what's up I don't think the content of the applicant matters I just think it's not what you

Brian Atlassay it's how you say it yes I I think you know what I think it is I think step one be attractive step two don't be unattractive so like a guy and

Brian Atlasthis is also kind of kind of relates to uh women's assessment of men's creepiness like if the guys are like creepy Behavior it's it's kind of a very

Brian Atlasthin line like creepy behavior from one guy would be like flirting from another guy if you find him attractive yes but also it depends on like how you're standing like your body energy like

Victoriathere's so much that is happening in that specific moment when you are like doing your first like encounter with somebody 100 yeah but yeah I agree like if if a creep if like and sometimes not

Bella (valarama TV)the best looking guy approached you and said yo that's a very nice dress or whatever you could be like oh okay he's looking at my body and stuff like that but I feel like if a really attractive guy said that a lot of girls would be like oh my God thank you like you know

Bella (valarama TV)and they would take that as a compliment for sure yeah yeah 100 I think appearance is very important everybody needs to work on their appearance for me like if someone compliments me I

Elizabethmaybe it's just me like I like continuing conversation whether you are good looking or not that's just me like I like being a good person like why not chat right and then many times they're like oh thank you so much for

Julia Lynn Sandovalthe conversation like they were having a fight at home or something I'm like no problem yeah but if there's kind of Imagine they're giving you a compliment like you gotta I know I know you wouldn't I think you would know especially you would you would know

Julia Lynn Sandovalcontinue your conversation you would know when the vibe is off for sure so that's why we're saying energy is like you can you know if you just know right yeah yeah

Brian Atlasword word okay we have some chats we have to read here so we have uh Curtis thank you man uh if you hire an API developer they can make an API that can integrate all

Brian Atlasyour app accounts Brian I have a back and neck injury from Afghanistan uh so I know how you feel hey sorry to hear that uh Curtis ask your doctor about meloxicam and a chiropractor work wonders for me

Brian Atlasum honestly I'm kind of I I'm kind of a little sketched out but from chiropractors because I've heard stories of like chiropractors like uh well like paralyze people and yes with neck

Brian Atlasadjustments so I'm very hesitant to see a chiropractor I've not heard of malexo what's wrong with your neck oh I've got some I've got like a neck injury and a back injury song I literally just

Victoriafinished a month of chiropractor and I don't recommend it yikes working with a personal trainer helped me more than the chiropractor and the first time I went selling a chiropractor I literally like had a panic attack and like cried because I was like I feel like I'm gonna

Victoriadie yeah majority of them don't even like scan you or whatever yeah do like I don't know in California you can like go and see like a chiropractor for 10 bucks and I'm like

Brian Atlasyeah honestly I think I need one I got into such a bad question isn't chiropractor like uh isn't it a pseudoscience like I feel like it's quackery I think it's cool

Brian Atlaschiropractor no okay just I hope I'm not insulting anybody's like family room yeah you don't have to like go to a medical school or anything I think it's just a certificate and stuff like that but if you actually like look up stories there are people who have had

Brian AtlasChiropractic adjustments to their neck because you know they do like the neck cracking there have been people who have been paralyzed for from the neck down from chiropractors so um look I know it works for some people

Brian Atlasand perhaps part of that's Placebo maybe they are doing something I don't know but for me I'm just like bruh just gonna leave it there just leave it yeah just leave it there you can get it at the end of the show but uh I know chiropractors

Brian Atlassome people swear by them it works for them but I just for me I'd I agree physical therapy is better 100 um but API developer they can API integrate

Brian Atlasall your app accounts okay well thank you man uh you got from Afghanistan were you uh Curtis confirm or deny were you a what's it called when you

Brian Atlasuh Airborne when you jump out of the plane parachute what's it called if you're in the military and you Navy Navy SEAL maybe when you you're is it when you jump out of a plane what's that

Victoriacalled Airborne what's that chat hello is that what it is paratrooper I think it's paratrooper like somebody in the

TTS Readermilitary jumping out of oh wait shumly octonated 100. it's very simple oh this one already triggered this one already came in right a woman

Brian Atlasdid that one already come in I think so I think so okay uh we have Sarah Trooper okay we have Adam there you go we have Adam Barnett thank you for the uh it's

Brian Atlasabout to pop up here thank you for the uh 69 donation man I appreciate it awesome podcast wait is it going to trigger hello still waiting hold on guys sorry it's going to take a sec

Brian Atlasum while we do that I'm just going to pull up one other thing here oh there you go awesome podcast hey Adam Barnett thank you very much man appreciate it uh and then we had that one from Bender

Brian Atlasokay and then we have a couple here from YouTube we have hold on one sec we have this one from TJ King ladies what would you do if of disappeared and you could no longer

Brian Atlasmake money off of it and it never returned

Bella (valarama TV)then move on you just you know continue focusing on streaming and YouTube and other ways to monetize you just have to adapt okay

TaylorI don't rely on only fans Julia what would you exactly what she said uh pull the mic a little closer to you towards you exactly it depends is not my main income so I'll

Brian Atlasbe fine okay twitch boom twitch there you go hey TJ thank you for the uh soup chat man I appreciate it Prometheus Venom hey thank you man there's different versions of

Brian Atlasconfidence rational and rational I try to go for the rational aspect that came in a minute ago but Prometheus thank you man is the irrational confidence like the alpha male kind of like

Brian Atlasaggressive like Macho Man confidence is that what it is the irrational one oh I think this was related to when we were talking about rating ourselves on the scale of one to ten we were talking

Brian Atlasabout being confident in yourself and your physical appearance so there's rational and irrational and he goes for the rational aspect of confidence because you could argue well when it comes to rating yourself you could say well if you rate yourself a 10 that

Brian Atlasmeans you're confident but you could also argue well if you have you have a accurate self-assessment of yourself and you say I'm confident being a six that's also a confidence so we have Prometheus

Brian AtlasVenom here I disagree I'm 510 I don't see that as a negative I accept my height well five ten is the average male height so something wrong but there are definitely like people out

Julia Lynn Sandovalthere that say Hey I only want the data guy with six feet plus yeah but that's just ridiculous yeah they were an amazing human beings are really connected with them that's unrealistic standards yeah if the majority of the gusts gonna be five

Julia Lynn Sandovaleight whatever at the end of the day some you take some whatever like exactly what fits with your life and what you know you Vibe with yeah lots of my friends they say that but then the one

Brian Atlasthey end up basically marrying or not six feet literally always serious I agree yes yes all right we have John crotto merci

Brian Atlasbeaucoup for the 50. uh if you don't sound like you want to enjoy yourself in relationship you won't attract anyone she sounds like she's just interviewing men for a husband we want to be married

Julia Lynn Sandovalbut also have fun oh he's talking about the video I think 100 it's not a job yeah that's why I was saying

Julia Lynn Sandovalwhat you say it's how you say it because a lot like emails especially moms which like rightfully so single mothers like they really have to take on like both Mom and Dad energy but you have to understand as even a business owner I

Julia Lynn Sandovalknow when to tap into my masculine energy but like at home especially with your man like there's a way to say things like being feminine and understanding the difference of the two Dynamics is very important

Brian Atlashey thank you man for the big 100 soup chat man thank you Brian when are you going to bring Destiny back that would be fun uh it was really interesting seeing him stand Toe to Toe with the red pill agenda from most of your normal

Brian Atlasguests also a question for the ladies what's one thing you would want to change about yourself and why yeah we can go around the table on this let's start with you um I would probably be able to see

Brian Atlaswithout my glasses I wanna you know what's your correction to negative four okay out of 20. who anyone here wearing

Brian Atlascontacts right now yeah yeah contact you too you too good Vision yeah okay lucky all right division two okay all right

Bella (valarama TV)yeah I'm negative 6.5 oh my gosh yeah it's bad I'm pretty close to being blind no I think are you still wearing contacts yeah doesn't it make it worse that's crazy what do you mean like uh

Bella (valarama TV)because there's no air going into your eye and stuff like that it actually makes your eyes worse so it's gonna get worse worse and worse Well normally I just wear glasses if I'm not working like I'll wear contacts for

Victoriathe show but normally I wear glasses like the vast majority you can't get LASIK uh I'm kind of hesitant to get it you say the best place in Las Vegas San

Brian AtlasDiego oh good to know I I'd like to do it in the future because glasses and contacts are kind of annoying but okay that's so you change your terrible Vision yeah I'm not sure if that's really what he was getting out of the

Brian Atlasquestion but fair enough like personality wise yeah like what do you well he didn't clarify but so however you want to interpret the question so we'll say with your eyes what about you

Victoriaum down with social anxiety so okay you have social anxiety but I do like things to like purposely like I like to like my my motto in life is do something that

Brian Atlasscares you like every day just so like you can grow yeah you know it's a good one but before we finish up with this I need to make a quick announcement Eric can you go over to the twitch guys go to

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Brian Atlasresponse to uh this one thing you'd want to change about yourself and why um I think I'd get boobs get boobs like a big boobs actually really quick on that just show of hands

Brian Atlasdoes does anyone here have fake boobs

Brian Atlasokay anyone here have any plastic surgery I don't know his job nose job anybody I want to get a chin thing that would be cool

Brian Atlasthat's all that's it so nose job and then boobs anything else [Music] you would get a boob job I totally yeah why

Brian Atlasjobs are fun yeah okay I wanna I I do I'm gonna we're gonna finish up the soup chat but I do actually want to talk a little bit about plastic

Brian Atlassurgery really quick um so you would get your boobs done you get some boobs yeah

Julia Lynn Sandoval[Music] I got mine I had like double A so oh okay hold on you would get you'd get I don't know anything a reduction you'd get an implants implants

Studio StaffI get implants yeah a reduction no I want to get a reduction s maybe I don't know yeah that's if you have like back really big boobs yeah

Brian Atlasyeah no that's if you're I'm not uh I'm not a fan of uh a fake of plastic surgery wow I'm not a fan why

Bella (valarama TV)some girls plastic surgery is not I'm not a fan either too much it doesn't look good so much it's never the end you have to get a good one like some of them can be good yeah I feel like it's

Sadielike I don't like plastic surgery I like agree with Brian but totally would get my boobs done like but like like

Julia Lynn Sandovalbut I wouldn't like amplifying your own like personal Beauty and like the way you want it to be Amplified in but like when you literally just change your if I could Snap My Fingers I would do it I don't think I would ever go under the knife

Victoriado you think like all with all the plastic surgery like should I say like the expectations of being a certain way like has increased you shouldn't do certain plastic surgery

Bella (valarama TV)until you're older I agree yes I agree because I waited so long to get my nose done like you have to know that you actually want it and for the right reasons and not because you know you want to look like Kardashians or

Bella (valarama TV)whatever like you need to do it because it's going to increase your confidence it's going to make you feel good and then do it and then then it's not worth it and I think like as you get older you feel more and more confident when it

Bella (valarama TV)comes to making that decision I agree yeah like beauty standards definitely definitely of all the surgery

Bella (valarama TV)I would probably argue it's more due to social media but yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's not surgery itself it's social media social media yeah yeah yeah not a fan of the Plastics it's not something

Brian Atlasfor you it's something that I want someone is natural if I had to do anything to myself like but not saying I will I mean I I've said

Brian Atlasthis before my stance on it is so take even a girl who you you said you had what

Brian AtlasI would prefer a girl flat like that versus her with fake tits really okay so I would prefer you as you

Julia Lynn Sandovalwere so boring what are you gonna grab this morning

Julia Lynn Sandovalhe's saying he's not Smith I'm an ass man what if she has no ass there's more important things than yeah but what if she's the perfect girl and

Taylorthen you could also pick with yeah would you would you support a BBL because BBL technically not plastic nope BBL is absolutely it's using your own fat yeah but that's so considered the plastic

Brian Atlasit's weakening the realm of yeah it's not body modification it's not an implants although some women do get butt implants yeah so whether it's a BBL or

Brian Atlasit's a butt implant I think it looks terrible okay it looks so bad I would prefer I would prefer to double down on

Brian Atlasit I'd prefer a girl who's got a flat butt than the BBL or uh everywhere for example

Bella (valarama TV)like appearance doesn't matter you know I'm like who wants a woman to be attractive and so our mental government is attractive

Brian Atlasno but there's there's never there's never an instance for example where if I met a girl whatever her origin point was whatever her starting point was that I would prefer her I don't care how flat her

Brian Atlasboobs are I don't care how small her butt is that I would prefer her with a cosmetic enhancement of fake tits or a BBL or lip injections or

Brian Atlasum I don't know what other things women do oh here's another one liposuction I would prefer I would actually prefer a girl with a little bit of belly fat than having that lipo belly I've seen it it

Julia Lynn Sandovaldoesn't it looks weird so no offense to anybody okay so my question to you is what if you're dating this girl and she's like babe I are married I just really want to get my boobs done I like

Julia Lynn Sandovalwant them so bad like why we're already then what

Brian Atlaslook you don't I I would I would try to coach her to just be comfortable with how her appearance but what if at the end of the day she still is like this is gonna make your voice

Brian Atlasso what if you like her body let's say let's say you're just I can't imagine I I feel like the women I date are tend to not be particularly vain so why would she yeah hypothetically what if she are you calling me

Brian Atlasyeah well I mean they were having tits well there is a degree of there's degrees to vanity but I mean I I

Brian Atlasthink if you're so if you are compelled to get plastic surgery you're doing it for aesthetic and cosmetic reasons I mean there there is a component of vanity to it but it's like dying your hair is the same thing what's

Bella (valarama TV)that dying your hair is the same thing like she literally said piercings and stuff like that so is that a No-No for you what do you mean what's the biggest

Bella (valarama TV)so like a woman changing her hair color or um you know wearing extensions or having an ear piercing and stuff like that because she's doing it for the

Brian AtlasAesthetics like it's technically vanity so how would you feel about that okay well we can talk for example we can start with makeup I actually prefer women to wear little makeup or no makeup

Brian Atlaseven for sure and in the same like just with the same with my other answers give me a woman who's got a full face of makeup versus no makeup even if it you could argue that she's more physically

Brian Atlasattractive wearing the makeup I would prefer the truth I would prefer reality and I think girls who wear makeup are lying I think to some degree yes it is a lie

Bella (valarama TV)it's probably the most accepted lie look but and I'm not saying this I mean you have to have the features there in order to be enhance them I feel like what about wearing heels because you're lying about your height

Julia Lynn Sandovalokay we're just going down well okay so like I mean there's there's levels to this

Brian Atlaslike a girl who wears a little bit of eyeliner or yeah you know uh but if you're like wearing lipstick that's another layer if you're wearing uh if you're like contouring your nose

Brian Atlasif you're painting your entire face uh then you know then like I I'll tell a girl like I you don't have to wear makeup for me like you don't have to wear makeup around me like I actually prefer a girl not to wear makeup because bro I got black pillows like you're

Brian Atlasgonna get your all over my like hello oh my God bro I don't want your makeup also I don't want any makeup that could rub off onto my skin no thank you why do you have black pillows yeah yeah

Brian Atlaslike black silk pillows it's the it's the pillowcase but why is it black color what about the well I got white too that shit's gonna get on the white pillows too sometimes the duvet yeah what colors do you do so okay I've got I've got a

Brian Atlaswhite sheet set and then the black sheet set I interchange or you know I do my sheets like once or twice whatever mood you're in it shows on your bedroom yeah the blacks okay well I don't know why we're talking

Bella (valarama TV)about these days but um wait I have a question do you think if there was a male penis enlargement plastic surgery would guys get that there is wait there

Brian Atlasis yes yeah what the hell since when I don't think men should like undergo dangerous and unnecessary unnecessary surgeries just the way I think women shouldn't undergo dangerous and

Brian Atlasunnecessary surgeries like BBL I think well I think all any surgery that requires you to go under anesthesia is

Brian Atlasby definition risky yes has high risk plus I mean uh breast implants there are some risks you know you go one the anesthesia there's a risk

Brian Atlasthere's and then there you have to every what 10 years do you have to get the implants changed or something so you have to redo the surgery um there's there's maybe the in the past

Julia Lynn Sandovalmaybe they weren't as uh there's some risk of like leaking or something like look up the statistics on that like now we're just sure it's low it's pretty low yeah ridiculous your research go with a good doctor if you go with some freaking

Julia Lynn Sandovalidiot who's charging you 700 like what do you think you're gonna get or just find a guy who's gonna like you for you but what if it's not about the guy that's true yeah maybe it's about you it's about confidence I got my boobs on when I was 18.

Brian Atlasno crumbs yeah graduation gifts if my daughter wants fake tits one I'm gonna try to convince her not to but there's no way I'm paying for it

Julia Lynn SandovalI didn't even ask for it it was a gift he's gifted it to you yeah my older sister got hers done and so she's like like bikini bodybuilding at the time I was competing so I didn't really care at all because I'm a gym girl like I'm in

Julia Lynn Sandovalthe gym working out yeah those things like maybe they're getting in the way whatever um still Gotham so glad I did I feel so much more feminine and so your dad like

Julia Lynn Sandovalfelt guilty about bestowing upon you thought he was like I'm sorry here let me pay let me let me pay for it or feel happy about yourself so yeah

Julia Lynn Sandovalthe shows that he supports you no matter what yeah he wants his girls you know his delivery on things sometimes wasn't always the best

Brian Atlasespecially when I was had weight gain but you know he's he's just he loves us and is supportive and wants us to feel good yeah and it's it's not like I have like ill like ill will towards women who have plastic surgery just doesn't matter

Brian Atlasif it's a preference yeah preference for me like it I prefer a woman who who doesn't and I get in trouble I feel like with everybody when I when I say that but that's okay it seems It's almost like

Brian Atlaskind of a Pro woman's it's weird because on one hand it's all it's sort of pro-woman to say you don't need to wear makeup you don't need fake you don't need to spend all

Julia Lynn Sandovalthis money on plastic surgery you don't need that's like you telling us what but it's like also the patriarchy but I think it's more about the female being able to have her own decision yeah whether it's to have the boobs

Tayloryeah but you said you did though go ahead I kind of like I think it's attractive like your stance because um I want a man who's gonna like me for me no matter what right you know our

Taylorjobs require us to like look good so yeah we're gonna do it for my job I would do it because like it's something that I really feel like makes me look prettier but at the end of the day I would want my man to be like you know

Tayloryou don't need all that babe yeah of course yeah so like my girlfriend wasn't attractive that's a green Vlog that's a green flag yeah

Elizabethbut uh yeah I don't know I I'm not a big fan of the plastic surgery that's okay that's yeah that's understandable yeah it's good that you

Elizabethhave your I know right like you have what you think it's right for you you're good you found that and that's that's word but it's like here I'm trying to

Julia Lynn Sandovalthe way I view plastic surgery like would what would you guys think about a guy who got like calf implants I've seen that that's so Random That Is Random implants

Julia Lynn Sandovalif they're looking sketch well okay well there's a lot of things about that because one I think again you didn't earn it exactly like that that um

Julia Lynn Sandovalit's very attractive um a man's work ethic and their daily routine for me because knowing someone is going to the gym daily great we're gonna fit in each other's lives

Julia Lynn Sandovalperfectly however if you're here just you know buying your abs okay well sounds like you may have money to buy those abs but also are you do you though because what's your work ethic like so there's a few

Brian Atlasways to look at it if we look really deep into it but if we're just looking at it surface level do they look good okay then I don't really care and I mean the the other thing I would point out is

Brian Atlaslike if you if you do get plastic surgery is that an indicator of potential like so I mean to some degree you have body dysphoria

Julia Lynn SandovalI think that's necessarily true this is yes and no because you're you you're so uncomfortable with however

Brian Atlasyou're whether it's your butt or your stomach or your lips or your your breasts that you are spending or in I mean I suppose some people get gifted

Brian Atlasthis you're spending thousands of dollars you're undergoing a dangerous potentially dangerous surgery you're getting cut up

Brian Atlasthere there is no medical indication for any cosmetic surgery well hold on excuse me breast reduction again at the end of the day it's like enhancing yourself though

Brian Atlasright can I I just want to clear there there are some medical indications for cosmetic surgery or plastic surgery I mean

Brian Atlasgenerally speaking though I'd say most plastic surgery is done for 99 of them is purely cosmetic reasons there are some women for example who have breast cancer and have a breast removed who you

Brian Atlasknow to they'll get a breast job to like even it out you know and I think that's that's reasonable but I mean most women who are undergoing uh breast getting breast implants are not doing it because

Bella (valarama TV)they've had talking breast cancer you know it's like I want big tits for sure so there's that I think at the end of the day it's like hey you wanna you're okay with your body but if you want to

Julia Lynn Sandovalenhance it to increase your confidence do it if you have the money for it do it but I think every human to a certain degree has some sort of body dysmorphia too it's it's I think it's a spectrum for sure but I think it can be a proxy

Brian Atlasfor like okay what else what else is here I don't know I see like the fake lips obviously there's scales too right like like I wouldn't

Brian Atlasput like I think BBL is a more of a let's say red flag than like a girl who's had a nose job there's a scale to it like and then if

Brian Atlasyou've had multiple surgeries and you have a BBL you have LiPo you have uh they did the hip thing or I don't know what the I think if it's ridiculous you have fake tits and yeah what else is there but also it's like okay let's take

Julia Lynn Sandovala girl who just has nothing literally done to them at all okay great well there is still probably something else there that's like well what else is there that you could find do you get what I mean mental illness yeah well you're like yeah sure yeah you could you

Julia Lynn Sandovalcould have no like maybe her house is literally live and she doesn't know how to clean 100 whatever hygiene well what else is there like there's so many different ways 100 but it's just plastic surgery is so like easy to see that

Brian Atlaspeople just like it's such a controversy you know yeah so teach their own I guess yeah it's about preference okay we have wait we were something about plastic surgery oh we were going around the

Brian Atlastable on the it was this one uh what's one thing you'd want to change about yourself so you answered you want boobs did you answer this one no

Julia Lynn Sandovalum I would say I would be a little more logical such a yeah I have such a big heart that

Julia Lynn Sandovalsometimes it can it can be taken advantage of or I can just be a softy for times that uh what was that a stifled uh hiccup okay I thought

Bella (valarama TV)you're laughing no it's a hiccup it was a hiccup I feel like that's more of a naivete though you'll just like even you like trust people easily um yes and no I think it more of like a

Julia Lynn SandovalI have I've been through a lot and so I I have a very like I'm very intuitive um I see the best in people and I think um I have a very big heart and so I'm I

Julia Lynn Sandovaltry to understand people so I guess you could look at it as naive I guess a little bit um but even with people who have track records that are proven to be you know I can trust them or whatever sometimes

Julia Lynn Sandovalit's like I don't necessarily always assert the best boundaries for myself because I just have such a big heart if something so I think that would probably kind of resonate so you would change you would just want to be a cold

Elizabeththink of a heart to where you kind of like forgive which I guess or like you know I mean you see the best yeah people no matter but it's like what about you where are your boundaries and that's what yeah

Elizabethum what about you that's a bad thing but like one thing you'd want to change about yourself I hear this sometimes I I could possibly care too much to wear

Elizabethin my turn as like annoying I don't know like I care too much I don't know like to wear it kind of distracts me Give an example um because I usually when I wake up I go straight to work right and the

Elizabethfirst thing when I go home is because I cook because I cook um I usually cook for my siblings when I go home I cook lunch that's like the first thing on my mind like hurry up and cook lunch for my brothers and my sister you know what I mean I never have down time for myself

Elizabethto where I just care too much and then right after that do emails when Ryan go grocery shopping then go back home same thing cook dinner like I help my mom and

Brian Atlasthings just like to where I feel like I never put myself how about door dashing you could get like someone to deliver some food you guys I don't I don't we

Julia Lynn Sandovaldon't really order food really yeah like everything I make at home like we cook everything oh yeah it's healthier because I feel like I had such a similar issue to you because so I was still living at home until two years ago and

TTS Readermy life was like so simple around sorry donated 99. I have a defamation in my chest called bactose excavatum which is basically a concave chest I have never

Bella (valarama TV)felt the need to have surgery for it even though it would be beneficial doesn't Elon Musk has that I think he literally has that chest thing

Brian Atlashe's like builds like it he's built interestingly for sure yeah he's just got like a I think he's Peak human potential are you ready to see him fight marks oh

Brian Atlasthat's gonna be pretty that'll be funny I think sucks I feel like it's got like a year head start on him though so he's probably the one but I think Elon is taller but well uh go ahead um

Julia Lynn Sandovalno

Julia Lynn Sandovallike when you are ex like you hold yourself to a standard that and you want to be successful or you want to build certain things whether it's that your parents like you know in like instilled like

Julia Lynn Sandovalsuccess or whatever I think a lot of times we do have to sit back and like take time to actually find ourselves and find what makes us happy outside of like meeting other people's needs or you know

Julia Lynn Sandovalbecoming successful in different areas and because so it's kind of just sounds to me like you need to like possibly take time to kind of explore you a

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