30,000+ Body Count?! Should Men Marry PRØSTITUTES? | Dating Talk #100

Date: 2023-09-13

Duration: 5h 08m

Guests

CCaitlin Perry >

AAnnie Lobert >

AAir Force Amy >

AAmy Dangerfield >

CChase (DT118)>

AAndrew Golden >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS(audience)

SPEAKER_01Amy Dangerfield(guest)

SPEAKER_02Annie Lobert(guest)

SPEAKER_03Tryndallina(guest)

SPEAKER_04Gigi Dior(guest)

SPEAKER_05Wendy(guest)

SPEAKER_06Caitlin Perry(guest)

SPEAKER_07Air Force Amy(guest)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_10Chase(guest)

SPEAKER_11Andrew Golden(guest)

SPEAKER_13Atlas(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteAndrew Golden's viral 'repent and believe the gospel' quote replayed

“Brian plays Andrew Golden's viral clip. Andrew explains the story: Christian street evangelism in Houston, random interaction outside Handlebar bar. Clip blew up globally, biggest in Portuguese.”

Key MomentAnnie Lobert describes attorney client who came to her in drag as a submissive

“Annie describes a high-powered attorney client who would come to her door dressed in his mother's clothing, on his knees with money in his teeth. Never touched him — 'all tools.'”

Key MomentAnnie Lobert: cocaine overdose and heart attack conversion story

“Annie describes overdosing on cocaine August 2, 2003, having a heart attack, clinging to EMT's hand, fading in and out of consciousness, and crying out to Jesus. Doctor said she should have been dead from drugs in her system.”

Key MomentChase discloses he broke 3-year celibacy vow on-air

“Brian reveals context that Chase was previously celibate for ~3 years. Chase admits on-air he 'fell into temptation' and is no longer celibate. Still with same woman. Andrew is 'disappointed.'”

ControversyUnidentified woman confronts Andrew about not knowing how to speak to sex workers

“SPEAKER_14 intervenes to tell Andrew and Chase they don't understand how to speak to women from the sex industry — that they won't receive religious messaging delivered that way. Gets emotionally upset defending Amy's background.”

Key MomentAnnie Lobert body count: ~100 personal not counting forced sex work

“Body count round: Annie clarifies ~100 personal (including during pimp relationships) but not counting forced sex acts. Shocked the panel.”

Key MomentAir Force Amy: body count 'only God knows' — over 1,000 work clients

“Air Force Amy declines to estimate personal body count, says 'only God knows' for work. Confirms over 1,000 work encounters over 30+ year career.”

Other100th episode champagne toast

“Super chat donor (Mr. Meatball) triggers champagne celebration. Panel toasts to 100th episode, Bunny Ranch, and Hookers for Jesus.”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship status round

Brian introduces panel of 9 guests. Each introduces name, age, occupation. Follow-up: current relationship status, longest relationship.

Annie Lobert: trafficking, conversion, and ministry

Annie Lobert shares escape from sex trafficking, two pimp partners, cocaine overdose in 2003, heart attack and conversion to Christianity. Founded Hookers for Jesus, runs Pink Chair safe houses. Met husband Oz Fox (Stryper) on MySpace.

Air Force Amy: legal prostitution career and background

Air Force Amy explains 30+ year legal brothel career at Bunny Ranch, Nevada. Explains Nevada brothel law, county restrictions, equity ownership of 4 brothels. Military background (Air Force, Nellis AFB). First relationship at 55+ via Match.com during COVID.

Should men marry prostitutes / sex workers

Debate on whether men should marry women with high body counts or sex work history. Chase and Andrew (Christian perspective) argue body count and sexual history matter. Annie and Air Force Amy push back. Discussion of redemption, repentance, and social judgment.

Religion vs sex work: Christianity debate

Extended debate between Andrew/Chase (Christian) and Air Force Amy/panel about whether prostitution is sinful. Air Force Amy challenges judgment. Annie Lobert mediates. SPEAKER_14 (unidentified woman) confronts Andrew about speaking to sex workers with empathy.

Borderline Personality Disorder panel discussion

Caitlin discloses BPD diagnosis and favorite person symptom. Gigi Dior discloses recent BPD diagnosis and dissociation during adult film work. Amy Dangerfield cautions against over-diagnosis culture. Andrew argues BPD/mental health issues are spiritual in origin.

Childhood trauma and entry into sex work

Panel discusses correlation between absent fathers, childhood trauma, and entry into sex work. Annie and Gigi share personal trauma backgrounds. Chase and Andrew argue father absence is root cause.

Body count: does it matter?

Panel discusses whether body count matters in relationships. Body counts revealed: Wendy ~5-6, Atlas ~9, Caitlin ~12, Gigi ~15, Annie ~100 (personal), Air Force Amy 1000+. Brian argues body count x3 heuristic from American Pie.

Going out to bars: relationship boundaries

Scenario: new boyfriend asks girlfriend to stop going to bars/clubs. Most guests say they would comply if in a committed relationship.

100th episode champagne celebration

Show wraps with champagne toast for 100th episode, donated by super chat. Brian thanks panel and Mr. Meatball for patronage.

Transcript

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Air Force Amyover under a thousand over over a thousand ten thousand more than ten thousand twenty years who knows who knows God knows I mean I'm

Brian Atlasnot going to try and count it sure what about you um I only share that with my brother I thought it doesn't matter hold up no I said it does yeah okay very last thing here very last

Brian Atlasquestion um let's see oh wait actually I forgot one thing hold on as far as the body count goes multiply it by three and that's the real number okay um

Tryndallinait's always been a thing what they like tell you about is it American Pie it's American Pie is that where it started though yeah I think so okay I hope um

Brian Atlaswould you object let's say okay here's the scenario I'll paint uh you just started ding a guy you've been dating for two months you want to be committed he wants to be committed uh

Brian Atlasand he says hey I don't want you going to bars nightclubs and parties anymore do you say yes babe cool or do you say no you're not going to

Wendycontrol me I'm gonna keep going out I'm gonna keep doing what I want to do what are your thoughts on that scenario I've done it before but at the moment

Wendysince um so I've done it before like I've um not went out at all he's been like he'll

Wendygo out all the time and I didn't really care but now that I went back to like partying and like being with my friends again

Wendyum I would need to have like a night or two with just my friends and then it's fine with me but it just depends

Brian Atlasokay so do you how often do you go out Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Monday Tuesday because you guys are

Wendyfriends right yeah but I yeah um it's just okay this week how often did you go out

Wendyhow often do you go out they're going out okay during summer yeah it's summer time yeah during the summer time during the summer it will just be like whenever I'll just be bored

WendyI'll just call my friends and be like let's go out so it'll be like about 12 times a week so it'll be like yeah Thursday Friday

Atlassometimes five some sometimes not really going out doesn't count if you like go out to dinner with your girl and you have some drinks and Cocktails right it's more like going to the bar or going

Brian Atlasto the club going partying okay going pretending to be single and then they'll be like two yeah like three three or two days well you're still good okay um

Caitlin Perrysame with you two or three nights a week four nights a week yeah just partying probably like two or two with my friends like girlfriends

Brian Atlasokay like five yeah okay and so you start seeing a new guy and he says hey don't worry if it's a relationship but saying no

Brian Atlaswell let's say you want commitment from him and he says I'm prepared to commit to you but I don't want you going out to bars and clubs and and

Brian Atlasdrink until 2 A.M every night like do you accept or do you say you're not gonna control me just like that yeah Alex uh

Wendywould you or are you just saying that no I would because I I'm before you said like no I need at least one or two nights a week to go out with my girl like that's why I said like when my girl like to go eat like that's what I was saying oh okay yeah all right because I

Wendymean when I think I think of something very specific if I was like in a relationship I wouldn't go to parties okay

Atlaswhat about you I wouldn't but that's easy for me to give up because like I've already gotten to do a lot of that stuff like I'm 30. if I did you still do it um very rarely I don't really care too

Atlasit's like a friend like friends will drag me out and then if I get a little hangover like I'm major regret because it just ruins your next productive day so okay it'd be easy to go I have no problem giving it up none whatsoever

Annie Lobertyeah me either it's a welcome break yeah I don't party um not much of a problem maybe just a little what do you mean what do you mean just

Tryndallinaum I think like if the person knows who you are in like this moments for example if I haven't seen my family and we want to go out like no I'm not I'm not I'm not talking about it

Tryndallinayou can leave the house like we go out in Kosovo it's like Dad we're talking like you with your friends yeah I know what you mean drunk yeah a bit of dancing like already doing hood rat [ __ ]

Tryndallinayeah I don't know about that but I feel like there's like a time and place so if the president you feel like there's a time and place so if a person's like no what what were you gonna say

Tryndallinalisten but I wouldn't

Brian Atlasnot a problem for me rock and roll okay

Caitlin Perrybecause I dm'd him and then he texted me on Snapchat and he said Kate someone stole your phone he told you he's looking out though we

Brian Atlasneed okay maybe we can have you guys back one more time and we'll try it again with uh with some other male friends of yours uh Andrew you said I was gonna ask him a

Brian Atlasquestion then I realized it was a dumb question okay perfect yeah we have respectful friends all right got a couple super chats there yeah there's two super chats then we're gonna wrap up guys um Lambda Sky I think for the Canadian

Brian Atlashundred mayor sibuku our nature pulls us towards Hedonism and animalism God guides us into elevation and Humanity

Andrew Goldenit's as simple as that hashtag Jesus is the Messiah but God is King uh I'm sorry I'm gonna have to that was a great Super Chat overall but I'm gonna have to call

Andrew Goldenyou on that last part bro Christ is King this is what the Bible tells us yeah this shouldn't be a butt there this is uh this is a Muslim this is certainly a Muslim yeah all right interesting there

Brian Atlasyou have it well Quran says to believe the Bible so all right we have Bender the offender here my health class teacher had a good analogy for how

Brian Atlasa man's brain is like waffles a woman's brain is like spaghetti I don't get that I mean you don't get that

Andrew GoldenI completely I completely get that yep what he's saying is that men are like more like logical and ordered in their thinking women are like spaghetti

Brian Atlasokay I get it which is facts generally speaking some dudes are also like spaghetti some women are also like waffles yeah yeah and some people are like

Brian Atlasunicorns what's another breakfast food I can pancake pancakes I mean that's pretty much a crepe like some people are crazy

Brian Atlasthis is your brain I hate breakfast food maybe like um breakfast burrito okay guys we are wrapping up

Brian Atlashere so guys thank you so much for uh tuning in tonight last call guys hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you

Brian Atlasto everyone who uh super chats donates and supports the show waffle game uh thank you to the wonderful panel here it was a good panel here be sure to oh these are my old notes from the show

Brian Atlaswith Kansas owns um thank you to all our chat mods any women who want to be on the show DM at whatever on Instagram guys we will be live again was it today is Tuesday yeah

Brian Atlaswe'll be live again Sunday at 5 p.m Pacific and I'm gonna host somebody on Twitch and I want the panels input and the chats input on who I'm going to host

Brian Atlason Twitch so let me see here real quick we have let me see who we can raid over there on Twitch uh let's see

Brian Atlasuh okay we got Joker we got babka and then so World of Warcraft players let me see what Joker D's up to once that guys finish on TV Joker d uh

Brian AtlasI don't think um while I'm getting this while I'm doing the raid it would you would you ladies date like a Chad World of Warcraft gamer oh Chad Chad World of

Brian AtlasWarcraft gamer like just he's right now the big thing in World of Warcraft is hardcore mode so right now like the top gailed Frontier like they

Brian Atlasjust cleared they cleared multicore there have the world bosses on Farm well they're still working on the Green dragons you know um

Andrew Goldenhe's super good at World of Warcraft really good at world I think he's down to LARP in the park what the oh snap I sense a World of Warcraft boyfriend in

Tryndallinathe future are you gonna get a second gamer tag imagine butt cheeks what about a C is good boyfriend is that like huh CS go

Tryndallinayes [Music]

Brian Atlassince I'm traveling for work but happy 100. uh the champagne trigger is a thousand yo so thanks thank you so much Mr meatball you're a faster legendary

Brian Atlas500 more Mr meeple I mean if he did five yeah if he did 500 more we could pop a champagne bottle but um although we're trying to also wrap up here but uh it's up to him um so I'm gonna rate those of

Brian Atlasyou who are watching on Twitch I'm gonna raid babka he's a little bro playing hardcore World of Warcraft I'll rate him in just a second someone said your love for World of Warcraft is more hardcore than my love for Christ true story ah I

Andrew Goldendon't know about it do you play World of Warcraft no I I used to would you be interested if he did he's down to LARP in the park LARP in the park what's up in the park would you say Slurp in the

Brian Atlaspark I said let's LARP in the Park public indecency let's go oh uh what is 500 trigger I think that's just that's mute a microphone I think but he didn't specify if you want I mean

Andrew Goldenit's the end of the show can I just say one thing before we wrap up any I know we gotten some contentious debate throughout the show but I again want to thank you for your authenticity and your vulnerability your vulnerability sharing

Andrew Goldenyour story with us and also for the ministry that you have like Nick can you get the chance

Brian Atlasyou'd be nice you'd be nice whoa Mr meatball you gotta you gotta say something to her because I didn't say oh that's of course yeah that's definitely what you said I did love your

Andrew Goldenname I I thought maybe I heard it wrong also request for everybody in the chat yo if you guys believe in Jesus let's get Christ as Lord in all caps in the chat

Andrew Goldenplease oh bro bro bro bro you already opened what the [ __ ] pointed pointed away from the equipment pointed away from the equipment shoot him oh my God bro you should have let me do it

NickI'm scared don't worry guys I know how to just don't like you don't hit your equipment bro the way you answer that I sound worrying yeah and

Brian Atlasoh oh wow very nice very nice alike so do I just

Brian Atlasstart you do you drink yeah all right a little bit uh let's pour one out for our homies okay

Andrew Goldenperfect yo look at all those crisis Lords in the chat for the 100th episode right I was pressing it so hard let's go what's that I said and you looked

Brian Atlasannoyed I was pressing it so hard uh is that your cup I just like I just unfolded a bunch of cups for you so you can pass them out oh these right here yeah okay

Brian Atlasuh no this is um if anybody wants to come in with another thousand just saying we got another bottle okay plus Keep It Coming see what happens look at

Unknownall of these guys go all right let's go this is awesome this is for sure keep doing a couple thousand and we'll find out like Amy yes

Brian Atlasplease thank you all right how they really play where boundaries lie I'm just kidding I'm just kidding I might actually be out here pretty soon I don't know I might not be able to get it for everybody Chase you're gonna have some or not

Brian Atlasjust gave me a cup yes I don't know if are we it's almost empty yeah it's almost looks like okay

Brian Atlashere's one cup yum

Brian AtlasI don't drink much okay ladies it's uh champagne I know but like because it it does taste pretty good it's a Joss B brick yo yo yo yo yo

Atlascheers champagne cheers cheers to

Brian Atlascheers to the Bunny Ranch yeah thank you cheers to uh hookers for Jesus cheers to hookers for Jesus uh cheers to hey

Brian Atlasw for uh Mr meatball he's been a patron for a long while now thank you so much for your patronage man it's uh I very much appreciate oh that looks bugged out um thank you so much for your patronage

Brian Atlasman uh thank you for tuning in for our 100th episode it's uh I've been doing this for the podcast a little over a year now and uh big milestone to hit and the podcast has been doing well so Chad

Andrew Goldenit wasn't always so thank you guys put W Mr meatball in the chat as appreciation let's get some love for Mr meatball I wanna W's in the chat for Mr meatball

Brian Atlasum I want to watch Andrew's video one more time and then we'll proper rap if you're so righteous dude all right that's a good little outro video I love that video it goes so hard

Atlasno I can pay a better time because all I heard was the last part not the first part so I was like what does a man get a one night stand repent

Andrew Goldenand believe the gospel [Music]

Andrew Goldenlet's say it on the podcast ladies Mr Andrew is single what's your Instagram tag Instagram acgolden041 AC golden zero four one one

Brian Atlasdon't even uh try to come out and he's waiting for marriage would you do the Buddhist no uh no okay okay I was curious just

Brian Atlasvideo how do you how do you how does a man get a one night stand I'm gonna ask you again here Andrew how do you get a one-night stand repent and believe the gospel you don't need a one-night stand you need Jesus man oh there you go all right cool all right

Brian Atlasguys um thank you for tuning in tonight for our 100th episode thank you very much thanks again to the wonderful panel we will see you guys again Sunday at wait did I do I did all the chats

Brian Atlasright just one okay yeah I did we'll see you guys Sunday 5 p.m good night guys

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