BANGS IS BACK?! Round 3! FIGHT! | Dating Talk #86

Date: 2023-07-24

Duration: 6h 31m

Guests

Brian Atlas

BBrooke (DT86)>

AAli Hardesty >

AAmy Dangerfield >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Karen(guest)

SPEAKER_03Bangs(guest)

SPEAKER_04Amy Dangerfield(guest)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_07Nev(guest)

SPEAKER_08Ali Hardesty(guest)

SPEAKER_09Aelia(guest)

SPEAKER_10Essie(guest)

SPEAKER_11Brooke(guest)

SPEAKER_12Naomi(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteKaren introduces herself as a 31yo porn star and discusses her professional body count

“"hi I'm Karen I'm 31 and I'm a porn star... I sleep with a lot of people during the week and sometimes more than one like today I slept with two"”

QuoteNaomi reveals she has been celibate for 3 years 4 months since March 2020

“"I am single and celibate for 3 years and four months since March 2020 pandemic"”

QuoteNaomi announces she is a respiratory therapist who leads worship at church with her twin sister

“"my name is Naomi I'm 31 I'm a respiratory therapist and I also do worship leading at church... me and my twin sister both"”

QuoteEssie offers to quit OnlyFans and become a supportive girlfriend for a chat donor (beaten cheeks)

“"Mr if you are looking for a girlfriend I am willing to quit only fans if you will support me full time I will cook for you clean for you I will do anything that you need me to as a supportive girlfriend um just hit me up after the podcast"”

QuoteKaren reveals she slept with 15 people in 9 days while shooting in Miami

“"I was just in Miami and I think I slept with 15 people there... nine days... I was shooting yeah... it's unsafe we're all getting tested"”

QuoteBrian introduces Jonah Hill surfer girlfriend controversy and asks panel to weigh in

“"so basically Jonah Hill was in a relationship with this surfer girlfriend and he sent her text messages asking her not to surf with men, post bikini photos, or do modeling work"”

QuoteAli Hardesty recounts her ex having an OnlyFans page — she appeared in BG content with him early in their relationship

“"so the only time I ever did like BG content that I actually like put on my only fans was with my ex who also had an account so how he did it was he also sold things"”

ControversyHeated debate about financial abuse in traditional marriages — Aelia and Bangs argue giving up income for a man is dangerous; Amy argues prenup terms can protect wives

“Aelia: "Financial abuse is basically what we were describing where you give up your entire career for a man in a relationship a partnership and then they hold the money over your head"”

QuotePanel reacts to Baby Rexa leaking her boyfriend's private text message; most side with the ex

“"to me personally reading that text message it seemed like he was coming from a place of kindness... I don't think it's right to be upset with him if you were asking for honesty"”

QuoteNev lists books of the Bible when Brian asks guests to name 7 books

“"Genesis Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy Judges Samuel Kings..."”

ControversyAli Hardesty gives firsthand account of Sneako/Zena/Lauren drama — she was offered rides by both Lauren and Sneako, chose not to get in Sneako's car because Zena was visibly upset

“"basically Lauren was going to give me a ride home... sneo was like do you need a ride home... Zena was sitting on the back of someone's truck and she's clearly upset... I declined Sneako's car"”

QuoteAmy confirms she and Lauren will do a public podcast debate about the Sneako/Zena situation

“"Lauren and I we're going to debate on this we're going to go on a public podcast and have a conversation"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian announces show, plugs Streamlabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit. Guests introduce themselves: Essie (24, social media manager/OnlyFans), Bangs/Anai (21, student/OnlyFans, returning), Karen (31, porn star), Brooke (24, content/OnlyFans, in relationship), Aelia (31, flight attendant/OnlyFans, in relationship), Ali Hardesty (YouTuber/OnlyFans/podcast, OC), Nev (20, UCSB student/soap seller, taken), Amy Dangerfield (27, high ticket sales), Naomi (31, respiratory therapist/worship leader, celibate).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Essie: single 6 years, last situationship ~1yr ago. Bangs: single 2 years. Karen: single 2 months. Aelia: in relationship 1.5 years. Brooke: in relationship ~1 year. Ali Hardesty: single/complicated since end of 2021. Nev: taken 2 months officially. Amy Dangerfield: single 2 months after 4-year relationship. Naomi: single and celibate 3 years 4 months since pandemic.

OnlyFans, Sex Work & Dating Compatibility

Extended debate on whether men who oppose OnlyFans are insecure, vs whether having an OnlyFans is a deal-breaker. Essie offers to quit OnlyFans for a chat donor. Nev argues OnlyFans distributes harmful content. Discussion of whether lingerie-only OnlyFans is equivalent to Victoria's Secret modeling. Karen explains she separates professional sex from personal life. Body count discussion: when should you disclose? Karen's professional body count discussed (up to 15 in 9 days shooting in Miami). Bangs confirms she was honest with her crush about her body count.

Jonah Hill / Surfer Girlfriend Situation

Brian introduces the Jonah Hill "surfer girlfriend" situation — Hill sent his girlfriend text messages asking her not to surf with men, post bikini photos, or do modeling work. Panel debates whether these were reasonable relationship boundaries or controlling behavior. Aelia argues Hill knew she was a surfer when he pursued her. Amy says prenup/contract terms should cover these expectations. Nev says it's within a partner's right to set boundaries. Naomi observes many women have dated men who tried to change them.

Financial Dependence, Traditional Marriage & Financial Abuse

Discussion of whether women should give up jobs/OnlyFans for a provider man. Bangs and Aelia argue financial dependence is risky if the man leaves. Amy argues prenups and contract terms can protect stay-at-home wives. Aelia raises financial abuse concept (husband controlling wife's allowance, leaving her stuck). Brian asks who would quit their job for a wealthy/attractive man (most say yes with caveats). Ali Hardesty tells story of a friend who quit her job for a sudden rich man who then went to jail and lost everything.

Baby Rexa Leaked Text Message Controversy

Brian reacts to singer Baby Rexa posting her ex-boyfriend's private text message to Instagram. The text was diplomatic: noting she gained 35 lbs, expressing concern, and still expressing love. Panel largely agrees the text was reasonable and the ex was not in the wrong. Discussion of whether weight gain in relationships is a valid reason to address attraction. Aelia notes she'd want her partner to be honest. Panel agrees it was immature/unloving to leak the private message publicly.

Oral Sex / Sexual Expectations Debate

Brian reveals he does not go down on women ("neck problems," personal preference). Panel reacts with disbelief. Discussion of whether men are more expected to perform oral sex vs women. Brian argues women are not equally shamed for refusing oral. Aelia and Essie share personal comfort levels. Ali Hardesty describes her experience with BG content on OnlyFans with an ex. Discussion of pillow princesses, orgasm difficulty for women, faking orgasms, post-nut clarity (Bangs describes experiencing it).

Makeup, Appearance Standards & High vs Low Maintenance

Discussion triggered by Jordan Peterson's claim that makeup mimics arousal signals (dilated pupils, flushed lips/cheeks). Amy explains the evolutionary psychology argument. Aelia pushes back. Naomi describes enjoying makeup as self-expression. Discussion of whether "high maintenance" and "takes care of herself" are different things. Brian says he prefers natural looks and is skeptical of heavy plastic surgery. Amy notes men often say they prefer natural but are attracted to heavily made-up women like Kim Kardashian.

Passport Bros Debate

Brian reads a donation from a viewer living in Japan with a Thai wife. Panel discusses passport bros. Bangs and Essie call it a red flag. Aelia argues men going to Morocco for traditional wives encounter transactional arrangements (90 Day Fiancé reference). Amy argues traditional women exist in conservative US regions (Texas, Louisiana). Naomi as a near-example of traditional woman. Brian argues men seek overseas women because they find more appreciation abroad.

First Date Payments

Who should pay on the first date? Most guests say the man should pay (especially those seeking traditional relationships). Essie goes in expecting to pay half but ultimately does not object if man pays. Amy says men should pay. Naomi says it sets the right tone for a traditional dynamic. Ali Hardesty says she just prefers to cook as a date. Brian says he thinks the bill should be split or whoever asked should pay. Discussion of whether expensive getting-ready costs justify men paying.

Celibacy, Dating Timelines & Sex Expectations

Essie uses three-date rule and has never gone shorter. Naomi has been celibate 3 years 4 months since pandemic. Nev is saving herself until marriage. Aelia was celibate 2.5 years before current relationship to screen out men who only wanted sex. Brian asks whether women who had promiscuous pasts who now make men wait are being inconsistent. Aelia argues a woman changing her standards is a bonus sign she sees more in the new man. Discussion of casual sex destroying intimacy (Nev's perspective).

Dating Easier for Men or Women

Is dating easier for men or women? Amy argues strongly it is easier for women (a 5/10 woman can get a 5/10 man easily; a 5/10 man must work extremely hard). Brooke and Aelia push back, arguing women face emotional labor and quality challenges. Nev shares "short bus" anecdote. Brian argues women have enormous selectivity advantage (instant access to men willing to sleep with them). Panel debates whether unsolicited male attention counts as dating "ease." Discussion of dating apps as amplifying female options.

Ali Hardesty — Sneako/Zena/Lauren Drama

Ali Hardesty gives firsthand account of drama involving Sneako, Zena, and Lauren. Ali was at Sneako's show; Lauren had offered her a ride home. After the show, Sneako also offered a ride. Aelia (present) encouraged Ali to go with Sneako. Zena appeared visibly upset/crying outside. Ali declined Sneako's car because of Zena's state. Zena later DM'd Ali to apologize. Amy adds public context: Lauren and Sneako broke up, and there was Twitter/online drama. Amy says she will do a public podcast debate with Lauren. Brian and Amy discuss public allegations culture.

Transcript

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Nevhis movies I think super bad was goated by the way but um I think it's normal I think it's completely normal to ask that when a relationship becomes more serious just like something like oh like the post and like she said I don't think

Aeliathis was the first time they talked about it I I don't think that whatsoever but so do you think that if a man told you that you had to give up your career because you were dating him that that's acceptable didn't say that he he said if

Aeliayou wanted to continue to Surf with men which let's be serious the predominant group that surfs is men and if you're on a beach there's going to be men there

Aelialike but okay so I I surfed I mean you can paddle out alone you know like oh for sure but I mean like if prob girlfriend friends and stuff right but if you have a good opportunity I mean something like this or whatever the case

Aeliamay be obviously not a podcast but if you have an opportunity that includes men are you supposed to deny that if it's going to help your career just because your boyfriend's uncomfortable with you being around men Well they claimed and uh maybe you can weigh in on

Brian Atlasthis I mean she claimed to have been I don't think she like had really a major career as like a model or like I don't think she's a pro Surfer but even if

Nevyou're not pro doesn't your career still matter I think it's within his right to try to assert these boundaries not NE not necessarily teller to follow them but I think it's his right to bring them to the table and whether or not she

Nevdecides to agree with them or not I I think that he was sort of setting up an ultimatum so he did it under the pretense that hey maybe this won't work out I don't think he was necessarily like trying to dictate what she did or what she didn't he was just setting what

Aeliahe wanted what he expected out of the relationship I mean he was just weaponizing therapy speak in order to Asser weaponizing therapy speak was in order to give her an ultimatum and basically say well if you do X Y and Z the things she was already doing

Bangspre-relationship I don't think that he should have pursued her in the first place if that was things that he was uncomfortable with exactly what I was going to say men always want like the bad [ __ ] but then once they get the bad [ __ ] it's like they can't handle her

Bangsand that's exactly what I texted Brian and like the things that I wanted to talk about so I'm so glad you brought that up because oh my gosh it's always like with Ariana Grande like the reason why she's getting divorced is because he couldn't handle having a bad B she he

Bangscouldn't handle having all that F how but how do we know that because they they've already talked about it it's been like they've talked about it's been publicized isn't she a home record yeah that too yes that's a completely different issue yeah that's another

Bangsissue and I was going to bring that up too that she's kind of like a pick me I'm so sorry Ariana Grande I'm so sorry wow shot's fired I am so sorry but yeah she she does tend to go oh my God I don't even want to talk about it I'm so

Brian Atlassorry AR I can't she's going to see this and come through you oh no Ariana no okay but but okay so you guys are saying that you

Brian Atlasknow maybe he should have just not dated or like he was liking on her photos he should have known what he was getting into but isn't it fair to say that like

Brian Atlasprior to dating he had no problem with her engaging in what he considered single Behavior but once they started dating he wanted her to act in a way

Brian Atlasthat was commensurate with being in a relationship so not posting certain revealing photos that's what I was saying but her on a surfboard isn't a revealing photo and her in a romper in front of a brunch spot is not revealing photo that's but to be fair I guess it's

Aeliasubjective but I don't think that if she's posting photos for her career amateur or not that it's okay for him to be like you and a bikini is too revealing I mean look at his movies look

Brian Atlaswhat he's done yeah didn't he like whip it out and like yeah just one thing like and she's a surfer the way men is sexualize it's so different to women too the only thing the only thing we have

Brian Atlasthough is what she chose to release and I mean I don't know if you guys have ever been on the opposite side or maybe you've had someone speak poorly about you but if someone ever speaks poorly

Brian Atlasabout you are they likely to reveal perhaps the ways in which that maybe they contributed to the issue I mean it's uh you know one I think she's

Brian Atlasmaking herself to be a victim and people are very good at not at taking themselves out of the situation and not telling the whole truth and only the part that makes the other party look bad

AeliaI mean that's definitely true but we can only go off of what we've seen right so I mean if we're basing it just off this conversation without any prior knowledge that's what it looks like it looks like he started dating somebody that he knew

Aeliadid not fall in line with his morals and his values and I think that that was a waste of her time if we're going strictly off of that but that was single Behavior how is it single Behavior if she's a surfer that's not single Behavior wearing a bikini on the beach

Naomiis not single Behavior attraction basically I feel like we've all dated that guy where we probably shouldn't have you know I mean yeah for sure I'm say not saying not saying Jonah but I'm just saying like he was attracted to her and maybe he was trying to change her

Nevbut that's what I'm saying is wrong like I said I think it's fine to like impose boundaries once you're in the serious relationship on on the same side she could have said oh I'm not comfortable with what you do in the movies and that would have been completely reasonable on her side which I'm sure was again a

Amy Dangerfieldprivate conversation that they had it because nobody brings that up for the first time over text have you guys ever brought up something really that serious for the first time or it's like an ultimatum via text I mean maybe yes I

Amy Dangerfieldhave okay well I'd say that that's a objectively a pretty emotionally immature thing to do when you're in a real but how old are you again sorry exactly so you're that's a 21y old thing there but if he is IMM mature you maybe

Amy Dangerfieldyou're just you're thinking you're jumping right at straight she just said that was using therapy speak generally someone who's been in therapy for that long to the point where they're able to elicit therapy speak are a little bit more imally mature and I think they were

Bangsboth seeing being the same therapist privately so it's not necessarily I know much about the situation I'm just saying didn't Jonah go on to have the child right oh I don't know I don't know anything about this I don't know much about and that's the other thing exactly

Amy Dangerfieldshe released it like just after you had the baby with this new girl right and this was years after the fact so what was the point I mean yeah but trying to get her lick back that's what she was

Essietrying to do haven't you guys ever tried getting a lick back with an like after thee yeah if you're a victim of like emotional abuse sometimes it takes a while to have the confidence and the strength to come hold on are you are you

TTS Readersaying that this was emotional abuse I'm just giving an example of her saying it took a donated $100 can you flight girl making a private conversation public is

TTS Readera major violation of boundaries if anyone was weaponizing therapy is the surfer but trying to damage his reputation nothing wrong with using

Brian Atlastherapy language I I doc I 100% agree I'll get you in here just a sec doc I 100% agree with you let's say Jonah misstepped in a

Brian Atlascouple of ways I think what she did even though the relationship is over uh absolutely um what whatever Jonah could have possibly done is I don't know if if I'm saying this is dwarfed by

Brian Atlasher exposing this publicly because I ultimately I think it's such a non story like okay you guys had disagreements whatever break up move on um it's

Brian Atlasobviously malicious like this is not I don't think she was abused even let's say Jonah was being controlling I don't think like he said hey if you don't want

Brian Atlasto if this is too much I wish you the best maybe we're not right for each other these are my boundaries whether you disagree with his boundaries or not that's another thing but he said he gave

Brian Atlasher an out and I don't know it's unclear the timeline of this if they continue dating after that text message but I

Brian Atlasthink to expose uh an ex like that uh is that's a greater grievance than him supposedly being controlling I think I

Aeliamean I can definitely agree with leaking the conversation being a move that I wouldn't do years after a relationship because again it just seems vengeful more than anything else but I'm just strictly talking about the content in

Aeliathe text message I do agree that that action isn't correct either again I agree I said earlier two wrongs don't make a right I don't think she was right necessarily for doing that after the fact but I do think that he should have never pursued her if those were his

Brian Atlasboundaries and that is the person that he was going after exctly and you were were you saying something or I'm trying to someone was going on something before the TTS came in no I think we're good oh

Brian Atlaswas it yeah oh okay here let me read this one really quick yo TX Texas twin dad yo thank you man for the uh $69 uh streamlabs donation

Naomiappreciate it love the show Brian Naomi would you dad a dad a Christian men who can't who are we talking about are we talking about single dads why are single dads attracted to me like in the DMs

Naomilike that's all I get is the single dads oh my gosh really I don't think I'm ready for a kid like that though don't play step mommy yeah like if the kid came out of me that's one thing but I don't know if I'm there yet I have a question what if they were celibate what

Naomiif they were everything you're looking for and he had a kid and he had a kid how old does that matter though um I guess not I guess it doesn't it's a person when you put it that way yeah if he's if he's submitted to self under but

Naomithe thing is I feel like though like as a woman if I don't have a child yet you know what I mean if I could but I granted everyone has their you know reasons why they're you know single dad or a single mom well he says he can't

Brian Atlashave any more kids so he's snipped I'm assuming oh he's Sni do you want kids uh I want kids oh okay sorry I that's probably a no for you but for for Texas

Brian Atlastwin dad but hey thank you man for the uh you know what maybe we should ask him would are you okay with like a sperm donor are you okay are you okay with a sperm donor think okay okay it's

Brian Atlasgot to be biblically sound I guess adoption adoption yeah yeah oh okay yo Sage thank you man oh okay it's not reading let me hold on let me skip let

Brian Atlasme re-trigger sorry it's gonna come back in here in just a sec and then we have hold on just one sec guys uh while we wait for that can you

Brian Atlaspull up the uh twitch really quick guys twitch.tv/ whatever drop a f11 drop us a follow drop us a prime sub uh drop us a follow and a prime sub yo ice monkey thank for the tier one get off my lawn thank for the prime chill and P thank

TTS Readeryou for the bits uh pay thank you for the follow lip thank for the follow carbon thank for the follow appreciate it yo Sage thank CI donated $1 just got to start by saying striped

TTS Readershirt is beyond beautiful does your spirit ever feel drained from SL on leans if not how long do you think you'll be active you guys should try bisen BG yo that's crazy I actually had

Essiea bisen burger yesterday for the first time ever from where from where Eureka Burger what I was just there the other day too it was so [ __ ] good sh did you you the Eureka or the bisen

Nevburger and the bisen burger I had both okay all right uh wait so this was directed at you I guess cuz you're the stripe shirt so thank you I appreciate that I don't have an only Fano your opinion allegedly wait wait

Brian Atlaswait what was the question he said does your spirit feel though from I think that's maybe directed that the other girls only he was complimenting you and then he was

Brian Atlasasking a question um so to the girls who do o or who do adult content does your spirit ever feel drained from doing it uh if not how long do you think you'll

Bangsbe active doing adult content oh so he's asking all of us yeah um I don't feel drained by doing it mostly because I don't really take it

Bangstoo serious ly I just did it because I came on whatever and all these guys wanted to send me money so I was kind of like okay well I guess I'll make an only fan hold on hold on hold on hold on hold

Brian Atlason hold on hold on hold on hold on what that took me too long um you had an only fans the first your first time on the show yeah I had it but

BangsI wasn't active I made the account but I wasn't I was I had never posted anything okay but you having an only fans predates your first appearance on whatever yeah but I've never like I've never posted anything on there I just

Bangshad it and then I was like okay well maybe I should post it okay so you're blaming us for why am I blaming you I said thank God for you oh okay right see I made I've made some good amount of

Bangsmoney and you want do you want to share no why would I want to share that no I'm not I don't the people that subscribe to my only fans are definitely

Bangswhatever viewers and um Haram I'm disappointed har WR see they're they're [ __ ] talkers but lowkey they're just they go and subscribe to their only to your only family good

Bangstimes good times and um no I don't think I will be doing it forever I'm mostly just doing it because I am going to school I need to pay for school fees um I've had a lot I've ran into a

Bangslot of issues recently that have involved needing a lot of money and I thank God for that I've had only fans to to be there for me and to help me out

Bangsand I definitely I I don't know I guess I I appreciate being coming on here and getting only five subscribers so okay oh go ahead I

TTS Readerwould say more that the negativity negativity is draining like just in general oh sorry Jackson donated

TTS Reader$100 you [ __ ] simps disgust me uh wow okay Devon Jackson um shooting shots at the Sims okay uh uh

Brian AtlasI love simps do you guys like simps you guys like simps yeah yeah why not would you date a simp yeah of course I

Brian Atlaswould wait you why wouldn't I yes would you date a s yes I feel like you you actually you want to be the s for the guy yeah like you want a guy who you can

Amy Dangerfields for right yeah do you want it to be a mutual s yeah you want a mutual sings yeah I hate non relationship is that possible though for by definition it's literally impossible what is a simp by definition I don't think I know

Amy Dangerfieldtechnically the acronym is sucker idolizing mediocre [ __ ] but the way it is actually utilized in society just means guys who are pedestalize women any man who is pedestalize a woman is a s

Bangsessentially I for some reason I'm really attracted to guys that like don't want me and want nothing to do with me wa yeah okay for some reason you're really attracted to guys who want nothing to do

Bangswith you yeah like the first guy that I've like that I was was like really seriously like obsessed with in high school he didn't even want to hang out with me like we would hang out like once

Bangsa week maybe so you Badger him and I would like yeah I would like bug the [ __ ] out of him and I'd be like let's hang out let's hang out let's hang out and I ended up leaving that situation thank God I never thought I would be

Bangsable to do it but um I really really liked him and I mostly think it was because he just didn't want anything to do with me good times good times I still like him you were about to go go ahead

Brian Atlasno I was just saying that being on the internet in general is kind of drain that's true that's fair yeah um just a question a lot of you guys are tatted up here can we get like a tattoo check on everybody okay we got what do we got

Essiehere what you got for us I've got a lot of things I've got a lot of things I've got a sleeve I've got this I'm removing all the ones on this s removing them yeah what does it say I'll

Essiekeep you well I'll keep you wild yeah that was a matching tattoo with the family member okay all right well what you got what's uh what's that one M

Brookewho's that it's a haa mask who's that it's a um female demon who the [ __ ] is that guy that's a female yeah that became damn well it was a female it was a woman is that like what kind of what

Brookeculture is that from I believe it's um Japanese um Japanese what's the word like theater Japanese theater okay all right okay what what's that lightning bolt on your arm what's that what's

Brookegoing on there I had a I had a dog that died and his name was Zeus oh my uncle has one of those same tattoos but it's two lightning bolts and then I think on your photo it's not visible now you had

Brookegood luck I have good luck um on both sides and then I also have hidden tattoos sorry it didn't tattoo I have a I have a shrimp with a trucker hat that

Essiesays [ __ ] on it oh my God that is so [ __ ] explain that one okay so it's a tribute to my best friend um Sarah she like reminds me of a shrimp shrimp and she has this hat that says I put the

Essie[ __ ] in country so I just got a shrimp but they couldn't fit the whole thing so we just put [ __ ] on the hat okay very cool very cool and then do you have you got the the I'm fully

Karencovered my whole body is heaven and hell heaven and hell yeah my whole right leg is just dedicated to hell that is AIA you got tattoos or no I just have a heart on my ash cheek that's it cuz cuz

Brian Atlasyou guys are all kind of friends sort of like you guys know each other so I was curious cuz you all have like you're all blast with tats I was curious like did you guys meet at like a death metal concert like where where do yall meet

Essielike how do you all get connected with people who are just you know at the tattoo shop or what um Brooke is from Ohio originally and I'm from Indiana so we do each other from our hometowns yeah

TTS Readerlike living in the midwest well just like there's a large community like in the tattoo industry oh DS yo D good to see you in1 thank you how in the world do you

TTS Readerthink the onan's life is okay with good man it makes absolutely zero sense mentality is broken if you want that life and don't value yours then fair

Bangsenough you can't have both though Derek thank you for the TTS you guys have a response to Derek yeah yes you can there is a lot of good men out there that respect only fans girls and

Bangsto say that there's no good men out there and to say that none of us are going to find men is such an like such a mean thing to say because it's like almost saying that none of us are worthy

Brian Atlasof Love or like worthy of finding a good man which is so mean but do you do you guys think those of you that do only fans do you think that there's certainly men that are going to date you um but do

Brian Atlasyou think you have to some degree eliminated or minimized we don't know the exact percentage your dating pool like cuz there are men like there are men out there there that it's just they

Brian Atlasdon't want to date someone who does sex work um so have because of what you guys do have any of you encountered any struggles when it comes to dating have you met a guy who's just like hey I this

Ali Hardestyis too much for me or has it impacted your romantic Pursuits I would say that it already kind of eliminates people who aren't for me in general because even if I didn't personally have an only fans I

Ali Hardestywould be supportive of other people who were doing it and I just feel like my personality like I'm very open and fluid and I'm more aligned with people like that I would also agree I think there are always going to be no matter what

Aeliayou do people that are just automatically eliminated from your dating pool I am kind of like you I'm super open and I you know I support sex workers I support all types of sex workers and I wouldn't want to be with

Aeliasomebody that didn't align with that as well so yeah I guess they eliminate themselves because I wouldn't want to be with them either can I ask you ladies a question how would you feel about your daugh doing sex work I don't have a

Bangsdaughter so but if you did like no like just try to put yourself in the hypothetical would be supportive because um in my situation I would like my mom to be supportive with it so I would be supportive if my daughter chose to do

Bangsanything with her life as long we're not hurting anyone we're not we're not bad people and it's kind of sad that you guys are keep like kind of pushing making us feel like we're bad people and

Bangsquestion kind of like almost sorry um kind of almost like um disc us and like shame us which like we're not hurting anyone we're not killing anyone we're not doing anything there's people like that are hurting the planet hurting

TTS Readerchildren so I feel like to worry really about only fans girls is just so unfair of course loves simps simps are making these talentless no life experience and

TTS Readerno life skill having H their and pay sweaty fat dudes to chat with you while they laugh stop contributing to the downfall of society

Essiewow okay they they're out for blood tonight um I was going to respond to that thank you Frankie go ahead um so I'm kind of working hard so that I you

Essieknow I'm financially stable in the future I'm taking all my only fans money and trying to save and invest it because everyone's experience is different I went to only fans cuz it was I I grew up very very poor and only fans I realized

Essieyou can make money quickly um I was working like 60 hour work weeks before only fans and this was just like a lot more freedom for me and a new experience but basically I'm trying to work really really hard so that my daughter wouldn't

Essiehave to do only fans unless she wanted to that was like her preference um like I said I got into it mainly for the money to support myself but so if my daughter wants to do it then she can and I'll support her but which brings up a

Amy Dangerfieldgood question would any of you do it if it weren't for the money no now if you could make the equal amount of money with like you know reasonable amount of effort you know cuz I'm sure you still need to put in some effort right I'm so sure you need to exercise real business skills promotion networking all those

Ali Hardestythings so say you could do that but to another industry and make equal amount of money would you do that it depends because I really like the time Freedom that I get from it because sometimes I'll work equal yeah okay well yeah I guess if I could still make my own

Ali Hardestyschedule if there was something else I was passionate about I would be open to it but I actually really enjoy a lot of aspects of doing only fans and for the question about if I had a daughter I would just want her to be honest with me

Ali Hardestyand safe and I would prefer if she was maybe a little older not like freshly 18 doing it just so she doesn't like regret some of her choices um but I think you know if I had a daughter she would be

Ali Hardestyher own person and I can't really like dictate her decisions but I do think it's going to be a lot more accepted going forward I kind of feel like we were the guinea pigs during Co when everyone started doing it and like not

Brian Atlasknowing the consequences and how it would play out I want to add on to her question would you guys be okay with your mom doing only fans yeah yeah my

Nevmom would never do that my mom wouldn't either but if she wanted to I mean I have no problem with that yeah can I add something by the way you said the only fans doesn't um you said the only fans

TTS Readerhold on donated $99 Derek Ms one buddy I totally agree with you but these girls definitely value their life it's somewhat around 15 to 30 bucks a month from Total pathetic

Brian Atlasidiots who will never have a shot getting anything of M Brian keep up the podcast love the show uh well thank you GRE neck for that appreciate it um 15 to

Brooke30 what everyone just want to blur it out really quick your monthly off fee is 30 20 um 15 what a discount 10 20 I

Brian Atlasthink mine's at 10 right now is there is there whatever coupon code that it is on sale right now on sale okay good okay all right okay um so I I think you were

Nevmaking a she was making a point go ahead go ahead so you were saying that only fans doesn't hurt anybody but I would disagree personally i' would say that having well not having it well yeah I'd say that Distributing that kind of content is just hurting like men and

Nevother people who decide to buy it it just perpetuating I don't want to say degeneracy but it's perpetuating behaviors that set people back rather than forward so for example you're contributing to porn addiction you're contributing to a lot of things you're

Nevnormalizing only fans and it's basically I wouldn't say you personally are endorsing it and like telling younger girls oh do this it's getting me money but as a whole I think that the promotion of only fans is doing that I

Nevthink that unfortunately 18y year old girls are fresh out of high school and they're doing this because other girls are saying oh it's getting me money and it's like I feel like you haven't really explored your other options I feel like

Nevif you did say you were talented I don't know what your talents are personally but I feel like if you were to utilize those talents and use them to the best of your ability you could do better things than be a part of of an industry

Amy Dangerfieldthat's hurting people like the consumers and the people who are creating that promotional aspect you make is very true you hear about that girls who like 17 who literally when they're about to turn 18 are promoting no they're promoting it

Amy Dangerfieldbeing like hey my 18th birthday this is about to drop like that's crazy and kind of disturbing like I'm sure we can at least admit that that's kind of disturbing that culture that is being develop I I see what you're saying and I

Bangsdefinitely do um have my limits and I do have boundaries when it comes to only fans um I I think it's really important I think only fans is actually much more

Bangsethical than porn H because these girls we're we're basically our own managers or whatever we choose what's going to go out there we choose what we're comfortable with with the girls that work with other people they choose who

Bangsthey want to do students with they choose who they want to work for um and yeah like you're your own manager I feel like that's honestly more ethical than going to like you know like watching

Aeliaregular porn you know I can definitely agree with you um when I see women that do have only fans and that are older and that are promoting it to younger women and stating that this is so great you're making so much money so fast the

Aeliamajority of women that are on only fans are not making massive amounts of cash the IND SED what is this like 600 a month or something it's not a lot unless you unless you already have a platform and you know have grown your you know

Aeliawhatever I don't think I don't think that any of us should be promoting or saying hey you're freshly 18 you should hop on this and there are women that do that and try to sign women up just to get a referral from them and I can definitely agree that that's wrong I

Aeliareferral wait there's a referral program through to sign no I didn't know that think that's are you [ __ ] serious yes no and I'm saying that that's definitely wrong I would literally never do that I will

Aeliaalways be honest about the negatives of doing it because there are pros and cons to literally everything but when you're freshly 18 you don't know what the consequences are you don't know what it's going to do to affect your mental

Aeliahealth and started mine when I was 27 years old so you know I had started nude modeling when I was younger I was very confident with myself I was confident with my body I took a lot of time to decide okay these are the things that I

Aeliawould be okay with doing you know on my account and the things that I would be okay with having leaked Etc before I came to that decision and I don't think that freshly 18-year-old women have the mental capacity to really understand

Amy Dangerfieldwhat they're doing so I can definitely agree that that's wrong 100% And that's crazy cuz I never knew there was any kind of incentive for referrals that makes sense why it is I mean it should have it would have had some type of impact on culture regardless but the

Amy Dangerfieldfact that there is a financial incentivization for that is really [ __ ] up yo and they're just disturbing honestly oh sorry no no they're just perpetuating this idea of oh you're

Aeliagoing to you're freshly 18 you're going to make millions of dollars and that's just not the case I mean the reason that I was I make any sort of money was because I already had a very large following and I signed up could

Aeliaimmediately start making money but I would never oh it's continue your point if you'd like I need to re-trigger this one um I would never perpetuate that to an 18-year-old woman or I would always say you know here are the pros here are

Aeliathe cons this is what you need to think about before you do it because you know obviously I understand that there's a stigma with it and there's things that will follow you for the rest of your life that you have to really set that boundary and I think these 18-year-old

Aeliawomen as well might push themselves too far into doing a of content that maybe later on they'll regret and they don't have the capacity to W donated

TTS Reader$100 I agree my redneck friend if they only knew what a real man that would take care of them would actually do for them it would be life changing for them

Brian AtlasA real man would provide for and take care of them instead they out good men get no time yo Derek appreciate the uh TTS um how many of you just on his really on his his thing really quick and

Brian Atlasif you guys want to pick back up on your convo thread um guy comes along he's prepared to he wants to marry you have kids blah maybe you don't want to have kids let's just say whatever be your

Brian Atlaslong-term partner and he wants to provide for you but he wants you to stop only fans do you do it yes oh s you're here why don't we start with you

Essieand we'll go this way I mean the whole purpose of doing only fans is to provide for myself so if he's also giving me that same out come then yes I would quit would he need to provide on a level that

TTS Readeris commensurate with your level of income on your own so let let's say holy [ __ ] hide that Bender the offender donated $99 thank you Bender the offender shaming is a necessary part of

TTS Readersociety because without shame we have no way to learn consequences from our life choices I agree thank you Bender the offend our consequences have nothing to do with you

Nevthough yeah they are when like people like trauma dump and stuff who's trauma dumping you said you love to trauma dump oh my God okay you with you I'm not trauma dumping with you right now your

Nevromantic yeah the consequences that you face like ultimately like they're reflected in your character like the way that you approach relationships I'd say like I'm not saying you specifically but I'd say like when you go into new

Nevrelationships all the like consequences in the past that You' faced because of your past behaviors they really do reflect on you they really do influence the way that a relationship might go so say like you had a ho phase or something that'll definitely influence someone

Bangslike the consequences you paid for having a whole place damn so should I keep it qu like private then like is that your advice to me saying keep it Qui I'm not saying to keep it PR because see you're damned if you do something you're damned if you don't can we get

Brian Atlasthere's no wi an energy drink I feel like Nev's a little lower energy tonight wait how many energy drinks do we have yes I already Dr anybody else want a little okay anyways um so the question

Brian Atlaswas uh cuz you know some people who do o make a lot of money so you know maybe expecting a guy to be making $50,000 a month might not that's a very small percentage of men

Brookebut uh let's say he's making enough to like provide for for both of you would you you take it or what you I would only be worried about divorce what happens in

Brookethat instance if you're not set up and you're just left alone like in the dark no money nothing that's true a lot of men are like like I recently saw a Tik Tok where it was like this wife and she

Bangswas like this husband was like yelling at her for whatever reason and because he she supposedly doesn't do anything but she stays home and takes care of the kids cleans cooks and does everything and then her husband is just like all of

Bangsa sudden saying that he wants a divorce because oh he like met a younger like a younger lady who's like you know younger and that's all they want or more beautiful whatever and then the woman is left with the kids usually the men tends

Bangsto like start their own life with their new family and then they leave the kid I mean leave the kids and then like let the woman like fun for herself basically you know and I feel like that happens a lot more often than you really think

Aeliawhere women are just left to like suffer so it's also worth pointing out and mentioning that women that are doing all of the household household chores in labor that's actually $1 trillion worth

Aeliaof unpaid absolutely I am I used to what I used to babysit and hold on what that is a real statistic absolutely 10

Aeliatrillion of unpaid labor for all women or one women all women all women the household labor that they don't get compensated for that they're doing while their men are off at work is worth1 trillion but I mean do you think they

Aeliashould be comp what do you mean you think they should be compensated that's not what I'm saying at all it's just comparing how hard like how hard their labor is compared to like if it were to be because a lot of men that end up being calling themselves the bread

Aeliawinner and they come home and they say well you're not doing anything like I go out and I work all day while she's taking care of the home like that's still labor whether or not she's being compensated super difficult I've worked

Bangswith children I know have you ever been in a coal mine in a coal mine okay most guys aren't really in coalmines yeah there's still there's still dudes in Coal Mines but okay I mean like but okay let's so in your example you're raising

Brian Atlaschildren though hold just a sec so in your example you're saying the guy who's the sole bread winner he's working 9 to5 he's working 40 50 hours a week um and then the woman she's stay-at home

Brian Atlasmom is that kind of the framework that you're because wouldn't it make sense that if he's out working and she's the Homemaker that she would be homemaking doesn't that well no I'm not saying that that shouldn't be um some sort of

TTS Readerdynamic but what I'm saying is that when the Justin 99 yo Justin gate is wide and the path to damnation is well traveled yeah definitely proving that to be correct

Essiewhy would you put something idolizing a place of eternal torment on your body Naomi keep carrying your cross I'm confused he talking about her T I thought he was talking about Ken

Brian Atlassleeve on her leg what I don't know what he said uh they mad that why would you put something idolizing a place of Eternal torments on your body is that is that this one no they're talking about her

Karenbecause she has a Hell Tattoo where in a heaven hid no my whole body is my whole right leg is Hell based on hell it's it's a depiction an artistic depiction

Karenof different things yeah okay all right yeah yeah I guess you you are condemned to Eternal damnation because sounds good I used to be a Christian I was raised a Christian so I get it so to each their

Aeliaown go back to your point about uh the the division of labor housework right well I'm not I'm not saying that a traditional relationship where a man is doing the gender role of going out and being a bread winner and the women woman staying home homemaking and taking care

Aeliaof children I'm not saying that shouldn't be a dynamic but I'm saying that it's wrong when the husband comes home and it says well you're not doing X Y and Z what your wife is doing when she's homemaking is still labor whether or not she's being compensated so to hold money over her head and act like

Aeliashe's not doing anything while she's sitting at home raising your family cooking your meals cleaning your house organizing everything keeping your schedule on track that's still labor absolutely and they've I believe

Aeliait was the depart the Bureau of Labor Statistics that said that women's unpa unpaid work in a household is worth $10 trillion internationally hold on I got to oh internationally internationally

Aelialike all of the women in the world that are homemaking and are doing household chores and keeping schedules together and raising families and cooking and cleaning and doing all of that that's labor that's unpaid and they said the

Aeliaunpaid amount of money is $10 trillion so what I'm saying is that it's not right for a man to come home and be like you're not doing X Y and Z and that's what we're saying we're saying give up your only fans be a Homemaker and you could potentially end up in a divorce

Aeliasituation where he goes oh well you're not doing anything leaves and takes all the money with you while you've created a home and done what he want had had done what he wanted you to do and basically deems the work that you've done worthless yeah but if your husband

Brian Atlasis going I'll get to you in the SEC alley if your husband is working a nine-to-five job and you are he's providing he's providing financially for the both of you then you are pulling

Brian Atlasyour half of the bargain or pulling your weight by taking care of the home right that's what I'm saying but I don't why are you viewing it from a lens of it being unpaid of course it's unpaid I

Bangsthink you're really miss yeah thank you yeah you're really missing the point Brian well well explain what am I what am I first I wanted to say that um well okay never

Bangsmind I don't want to say this right now because I backtracked myself a little bit but you are missing the point what is because you're really focused on saying like oh wol if you're going to stay home then you need you you need to

Brian Atlasget paid I feel like that's what you're kind of trying you know like that's not what we're saying that's not what we're saying at all but are are you trying to argue that men don't value the work that women do in absolutely that's that's

Brian Atlasexactly my absolutely I mean what what evidence do you have for that because here's here's why because you cited to this well the the Department of

Brian AtlasLabor they uh they tabulated that it's trillions of dollars that women are doing in unpaid labor as if all those women they it is uh unappreciated by their husbands the work that they do but

Brian AtlasI I don't think that's the case perhaps it's the case that there are some men who are unappreciative or or U not cognizant of the work that their spouses do at the home although I don't think

Nevthat's really I don't what evidence is there for that I think there's expectations that come in matrimony or relationships in general and whether or not they want to conform to that traditional oh the women does the house cleaning the Mendo that is up to them

Neventirely I mean me personally I love my boyfriend I do anything for him like I clean up his dishes and I do whatever and I don't like and just the way that he treats me like that's enough for me

TTS Readerlike I don't expect any reparations he said that's enough for the offend donated $99 ladies I'm a steel worker I work around 15 ton steel rolls that are

TTS Readersuspended above my head I provide the roof over your head I fix any issues with that house I provide the lifestyle you need yo B and I'll let you come in just after this really quick uh bendra the offender thank you very much for

Brian Atlasyour TTS um yeah I mean that's a good point and also I mean what about all the household labor that men do which is uncompensated for and unpaid for example men are typically expected to take care

Brian Atlasof some of the more uh physically laborious tasks like mowing the lawn fixing appliances around the house uh potentially car related things so I mean there's certainly Tas tasks that men

Brian Atlasundertake for example that might you know something that's heavy that might need to be moved around and so uh I don't think it's just women that are that are contributing to the upkeep of

Bangsthe household I think um what you're kind of missing on is that we were talking about that um when men what you brought up the question um saying that would you give up your only

Bangsfans um to if a man was going to provide everything for you and then that's why we said um well like if we give up our only fans like whatever give up whatever

Bangsjob because the man your husband is like I want you to stay home I want you to raise my kids I want you to do this and then all of a sudden he finds a younger

Bangsa younger lady whatever finds somebody better and then he's like see you later and then like leaves the whole family and then now you're you're the man because of the man because of the man

Bangsbecause he said because of your the husband he said sorry um he said no I don't want you to work I want you to stay here and watch my kids raise my children clean my house do all of this

Bangsand now you're screwed you you're just choosing the wrong people then what do you mean you were choosing the wrong people we don't no no no no we can find a man he can be the most amazing person

Bangsever a few years along the line he can turn into the worst person ever what do you mean we're choosing the wrong people then no if you're not willing to um yes that is your choice to leave but you can also be so screwed this man could be the

Bangsperfect man and be like oh my goodness have you not like seen like what's been going on have you not seen what's been going on recently with all the men that have like their families because their

Bangswife has wanted a divorce it's not that easy to get a divorce women are out here dying and their children well just one thing women are more likely to initiate divorces than men are and then initiate it the men get

Bangsscared and they want to afflict the most pain upon their woman upon that woman and then they end up have you not heard about what's been going on have you not heard about Chris Watts have you not heard about the man from have you heard about jod Aras okay yes I've heard about

Nevjod Aras that has nothing to do that has nothing to do welcome to the whatever crime Channel this is about like disain relationships and you are using True Crime examples as these moments of well I think like the point she's trying to

Ali Hardestymake sorry to cut you off is like Financial abuse like if you are stuck in a relationship where you pretty much gave up your source of income where you could comfortably support your own lifestyle independently and to answer

Ali Hardestythe question if I would do that or not if I trusted someone if I was in love with them and they could really like afford to do that but people get like played with that all the time absolutely yeah but but this idea that men in

Brian Atlasdroves are leaving their wives for like the younger you know like a younger girl it does happen but I I actually don't think it's as common as actually

Nevwomen leaving their husbands I don't know the reasons why but women are more likely to initiate divorces okay so men should be more concerned about I think it's your decision if you're not satisfied with your relationship you're entirely

Aeliaentitled to leave but how are you supposed to leave when you're being financially abused and have no source of exactly we've been trying to make this you guys missing that's what I was this whole time I'm like how does it relate

Brian Atlasto the question though divorce was not included in that question originally we went yeah I don't know where we're going but hold on what what's you mentioned uh Financial abuse what do you mean well Financial abuse is basically what we

Aeliawere describing where you give up your entire career for a man in a relationship a partnership and then they hold the money over your head you get x amount of money to do XYZ and it's oh well I go out and I make all of the

Aeliamoney you only have access to X Y and Z and that's what I choose that you have access to after you give up your career and then if you choose to leave that man you are left with depending on how long you've been with them no experience in the job field you've given up your only

Aeliasource of income you have if you had signed a prenup there's no alimony there's no child support there's no nothing thing and then how are you supposed to leave that relationship well it was your choice to agree to those

Nevterms good well prenups you can Define the terms right yeah can can you guys stop yelling at me I was going to say it was your choice to give up those freedoms in the first place because you were dependent on that man in the first place

Nevyou said okay you could be the bread winner of this household I'm fine with that I'm fine with homemaking I'm fine with all that but there's always that risk that comes with that and if you want to avoid that risk then you're entitled to do your own thing you're

Bangsentitled we're just saying it happens saying that we're going to do that just like you you understand it like you've gone so far left that you've like made a 180 have I gone so far left that I made a 180 yeah like or whatever you're

Bangswhichever direction you're going girl whichever direction you're going like you've you just exactly you literally like explained exactly what we were trying to get at I mean you're basically blaming it all on us it's your decision to give up here's the I just said

Amy Dangerfieldrecently that prenups you can actually set your own conditions so I think it should come down to the terms of a relationship right so someone if a man says Hey I want to have a Tricom relationship I want you to stay at home and raise the children then it is your

Amy Dangerfieldthe ownest of responsibility is on you as that wife and as the future mother to be able to say put these terms in the prenup to where if I leave you for sure that's on me but hey if you're if if you

Amy Dangerfielddecide to leave me and I have no accolades no resume nothing and and I'm forced to go out in the workforce then I'm protected you can actually set prenups to be in alignment with whatever conditions the couple decide so it

Amy Dangerfieldshould be to the individual couple at the end of the day and people should go into these things with their eyes wide open and educate themselves if they don't that is on them okay but the thing

Bangsis with um that most women are getting told like okay like we we'll be the provider you stay home you do this you do X Y and Z and then they're getting

Bangsscrewed over like most women won't leave the relationship because they know they are being financially provided for so in that case most women won't leave they won't leave because they know that they

Amy Dangerfieldare screwed you're the one who agreed to the tra tradon lifestyle in the first place and again def find those I just say that it's if you're going into a marriage and that and the husband wants a prenup which would then dispose you to

Amy Dangerfieldthat position in the first place then be a an a contributor to set the terms where if he is saying I want you to stay at home and only serve me married I'll do that when I get married well then there should be some allowance where he says okay then

Amy Dangerfieldlegally there will be a contract to where if I leave you for you know whatever reason then you will be taken care of well what if it's not marri get married what if it's just a relationship and there's no prup involved well if

Amy Dangerfieldyou're just I mean well there's common law right there is common law actually that I don't know how it is actually in America so maybe someone could clarify for me if you guys know but in Australia when you've been living with someone for two years you're

Brian Atlasin a deao relationship and most of the same things pertain as what is in actual legal marriage word here I do got I do have to do a couple chats there are some common law Mar marriage States but Most states

Brian Atlasare not common law marriage okay so we have that guy pyros hey thank you man why do you women think sex s work is a job work man you guys are going hard

Brian Atlasokay worth worth praising men don't respect who uh you will never get the perfect man you want because you don't deserve him nothing is more attractive to a man than a hardworking hardworking

Brian Atlaswoman like an ER nurse actually I recently read the study that nurses especially like those who work in emergency setting or overnight setting are like the most likely to cheat right

Essieapparently most stressed but uh do you guys have a response to well I never said that like I should be praised for having an only

Essiefans I don't think any of us said that actually um and also like I hate to use the word privilege but not everybody has the privilege to afford an education to go into things like healthcare like I'm

Essiejust now because of only fans able to afford to go back to school to get a degree so I hate using the word privilege but that's yeah so the scenario is different with each and every individual okay it also doesn't

Aeliahave to be one or the other I have a full-time job and I also do content creation so you can have a regular job be an ER nurse and also do content creation and only fans it doesn't have to be either or okay by the way you're

Aeliaflight attendant have you ever created something up in the air no I have not my high club baby it does happen though all right we have doc vabis hey thank

Brian Atlasyou man good to see you in the chat blue top girl There's Hope for you yet save your dough get good therapy for one year then you will find a good man the seat next to you is a lost cause I'm actually

BangsI'm already in therapy I've been in therapy for two years so next let's go um do you have a response to Doc nah he says you're a lost cause I am not a lost cause just because you don't agree with

Brian Atlaseverything that I say or do I'm not a lost cause what the opposite of a lost cause a found cause just cause a just a just cause Okay a worthy Crusade a

Brian Atlasworthy Crusade just like that just the tip uh donated 86 hold on where is it U hold on I'm trying to find something here wait oh de just a tip just for a

Brian Atlassecond just to see how it feels a man who is willing to let his woman sell herself isn't isn't your man he is your PM or just a

Aeliasimp m word allow what I know a girl I'm doing that on my own he ain't allowing me to do anything also pimp he would have to be

Amy Dangerfieldtaking a cut of my money for that to be um the dynamic in the relationship and it's simply not that's what he's saying either a pimp would accept that cuz he is making money or a s would accept it because a s's going to idolize you no

Essiematter what that's the point he's making I mean it would be a pimp in my category cuz I do love to spoil my man that I'm seeing so he will me too me too I am a giver the cap actually though it's true

Brian Atlasare you just saying that are you just pandering my friends told me I need to stop spending money on the men that I see so quickly all right yeah I think you did include something in your pre we'll we'll get to that in a sec here

Brian Atlasbut uh okay so you simp for your actually a question for you guys uh so let's say you and maybe you've had this experience with past guy for those of you who do adult

Brian Atlascontent a new guy comes in and he maybe he's down to help you film or something does he get a cut or in the past have you ever given a cut to a guy that you were seeing let's start with you go

Ali Hardestyahead so the only time I ever did like BG content that I actually like put on my only fans was with my ex who also had an account so how he did it was he also sold things a lot of my fans coming from

Ali Hardestymy YouTube channel would subscribe to his page as well and basically pay to see content of me so it never became a situation where I was like selling sex tapes and giving him a cut or anything like that M and that's actually a huge reason one of like the many reasons why

Ali HardestyI don't cross that boundary cuz I feel like it can get messy when like your romantic Partners you're like paying them out and then you know you're the face of the content it's out there forever you're paying taxes on it I just feel like it is kind of hard to find an

Aeliaideal arrangement with that and some people do and I think that's great for them but it can get messy I have never given a man um a cut of my money they've never helped me film

AeliaI've never done BG content or anything like that so I I've never really had had it was never a necessity for somebody to help me in that regard I do what Essie does and I just spoil my boyfriend with

Nevmy earnings so spoil you spoil your boyfriend yeah I took him to Japan in April BR and I went girl that's crazy my boyfriend were just in Japan oh yeah where'd you go

Nevcommonality we stayed in Tokyo for a bit in shimu zawa I was there for a month living through study abroad but then he came and joined me and it was honestly great like I don't know I just feel like did you pay for it no I didn't no no I well I paid for like some of like gifts

Nevand stuff like I bought him a ton of things like we sort of like to buy each other's stuff like I went to Hawaii for a bit and like I I spent the last of my money on him but I don't know it was just great like I think traveling with a

Brian Atlassignificant other really I don't know that was lovely um well you let's be honest though you were compensating for the fact you were like trying to make it up

Nevto him because you were sing on Chase last show just admit it no no we're past that like that's done I I I personally wasn't say to be but I I love this man to death like I would literally I don't even know

NevI have a question I burn down an orphanage just to keep them warm who like I don't know I don't know but like I don't know it was just great like cuz we both liked one piece and then we went to like the one piece like thing and it

Nevwas just awesome like it was it was great and then we went to the uh Forest the Logan Paul forest and it was just the Logan it it was magical it was magical shut your [ __ ] okay what

Brookeabout uh what about you I mean I pretty much do the same thing we went to Japan together with our boyfriends oh you both brought your boyfriends what about you um I've paid

Karenmy friends to suck their dick for my only

Karenfans um I really don't have any Partners I didn't really like my boyfriend's being on the last two xes that I had on my only fans I paid for everything

Karenpretty much wait you paid someone to suck their dick yeah what so I could own it so I could own it it's about content it's about owning a Content okay I got you I got you yeah that's just ironic

Karenyeah no I know I know I people would do it for free I get it it's okay it's okay I know it's okay wow good times good good times uh what about you um did you

Bangsspoil your man oh yeah I love spoiling whoever I am like I fall in love very fast I fall in love hard oh hold on okay soore

TTS Readerprivileged toxic donated $99 thank you man only in America are women's lives so privileged that they feel zero shame in claiming that a man who is sacrificing everything to commit

TTS Readerto plus support a wife financially is abusing her cannot stop laughing we've really ruined women how genuinely pathetic you did use the term abusing which I thought was interesting thing

Aeliawhat's that Financial abuse is a thing and I would I would be willing to say that those women in other countries are also being financially abused as well I mean but the way you described it it

Brian Atlaswasn't clear that didn't you said if a guy is the primary bread winner and he has a allowance for his wife that doesn't meet her needs that's not what I

Aeliasaid well you said you said here's how much you can spend or something like that well I'm saying that if he's holding money over his partner's head or not giving her anything or even just holding it over her head in general oh

Aeliawell I'm the bread winner you get what I give you that's Financial abuse I've seen stories of women that have been told oh well you get $500 for the week and she has four kids and she's running out of grocery money and her husband's

Aeliarefusing to give her more grocery money are they split up no no this is an an actual marriage and this happens all the time his kid it's like a power that happens all the time yeah absolutely I'm

Naominot saying that it's like 100% of marriages but they are plenty of Partnerships that end up that way my twin sister she is a stay-at-home wife and they waited to marriage to have sex it was like 3 months they fast forwarded

Naomithat really quick that process but she she's happy and she good for her that doesn't happen all the time I know but I'm just saying like I've seen I've seen the good sides yeah it's good to shed

Naomilight on the good Sid that's exactly true he owns his own business he stays at home they see her they see each other all the time and she does whatever she needs to do to keep the house whatever and that's amazing that sounds like a very healthy traditional relationship

Aeliaand those definitely exist but we were talking about earlier just if we had to be in that situation like what would be the negatives of why we might not give up our only fans or our jobs in order to be with them traditional marriages are totally fine if that's what both people

Aeliawant and it's healthy and it's happy I fully support that I think that people should do what's best for them but if a woman is in a situation where a man is holding money over her head she can't keep the household afloat based on what he's giving her and he's consistently

Aeliasaying well I'm the bread winner I'm doing XYZ you don't Des deserve my money then I think that that's a problem not only it's like financially abusive it's also emotionally abusive and

Ali Hardestymanipulative so it falls under how common is that though it feels like you're prettyy common I actually had a girlfriend recently where she met a guy

Ali Hardestyand he told her quit your job move in with me like within 24 48 hours and she didn't have an only fans she worked in night life but she was like a Hostess perfectly respectable like normal job in

Ali Hardestymy opinion I she's my age and she did it and then some stuff happened to him personally and he wasn't in as great of a situation anymore within like a month and now she's pretty much screwed and it's been like a huge stress in her life

Ali Hardestyso I'm just saying you can't like assume everything's going to be like peaches and daisies going into that you know wait hold on she moved in with him yeah so he was paying all the rent yeah yeah I think it I think like it's wise to how

Ali Hardestyis she screwed I'm just it's a long story he went to jail got SL got kidnapped it's like a really insane story like what yeah basically he lost all his money

Ali Hardestykind of thing did she bail him out of jail or she flew to a foreign country to help bail him out of jail yes she was riding for him

Ali Hardestygosh but so he screwed up her life I'm confused yeah cuz she basically took a leap of faith and was like okay I'll quit my job I'll move in with you you're

Ali Hardestyrich you can take care of she's how long did this relationship blast um they're still you know in a really big pickle because of her decisions to be with him yeah but she he was taking care he was paying the entire rent on their

Ali Hardestyapartment she ended up moving in with her he lost his place she ended up kind of taking care of him okay so there was it got messy very

Nevquickly yeah okay okay all right well I think it's wise to like weigh out the risks that come with making such a commitment to like completely discard

TTS Readeryour financial like Alvin Sam donated $100 what's abusive is these 34s of using the word abuse damned if you do

Nevdamned if you don't that's my line okay anyways I think it's wise to like wait risks that what I was thanking Alvin go ahead oh thank you Alvin yeah

Nevplease thank Alvin every time everybody please thank Alvin for the uh please you know give it the little thing okay go ahead okay yeah I think it's wise to weigh out the risks when it comes to committing to something that sort of

Nevgets rid of your financial freedoms and uh you know survivability outside of the relationship I think that to avoid situations like that you should really really really yeah not keep working if

Nevit's your choice whether or not to keep working I personally would keep working but and and I don't know I just think that considering the risks when like entering any sort of situation that's life altering is probably the best thing

Nevyou can do for yourself so you can avoid like getting into these crazy situations where like you know but not 30 minutes ago you said that you would give up your job for your boyfriend I would personally I would so you're just contradicting yourself no no I'm not

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