TRIGGERED Demonic Blood Witch E-Girl Puts A CURSE On The Podcast?! | Dating Talk #133
Date: 2024-02-05
Duration: 6h 24m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_01Production(audience)
SPEAKER_02Ariana/Jules/Carmen(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sky(guest)
SPEAKER_04Arson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kayla(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Jake(guest)
SPEAKER_08Meow(guest)
SPEAKER_09Kiki(audience)
SPEAKER_10Angela(guest)
SPEAKER_12Raven(guest)
SPEAKER_13Bri(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:41
IntroArson introduces herself; reveals her government name is actually Arson and she makes portable flamethrowers.
“my name's arson um I'm 24 is that your government name that's my government name”
00:03:58
IntroMeow introduces herself as a dog (purple Dalmatian) who lives the dog-girl lifestyle full-time.
“my name is meow like a cat but I am a dog and I'm 27 I'm from the USA and I'm a twitch live streamer”
01:39:34
Key MomentArson describes 4-year relationship with a videographer whose leg was amputated and put on backwards to function as a new knee joint.
“it was like left amputated and like put on backwards and then like the foot joint now acts as a knee joint”
01:40:20
ControversyArson recounts sex injury that sent her to the ER: used kitchen knife for blood-play on second meeting, deep laceration required ER visit, which is how they fell in love.
“we used a freaking kitchen knife and it was so dull and tried to do like a tiny cut and it wouldn't work and I just grabbed my leg and he just went once really fast”
02:03:02
Key MomentJake Australia arrives to the show, having driven through flooding rainstorms.
“good evening everybody good evening nice to meet you how you all doing Jake we're going to be leg to leg here”
02:06:00
Key MomentArson shows she is wearing diapers on-show; reveals her current boyfriend gave her a perineal tear from sex that required diapers and lidocaine jelly for a week.
“I had to wear diapers for a week and why is that so I do only fans my boyfriend and I were just practicing some things”
02:33:20
ControversyBrian challenges Meow on her dog-girl identity, asking whether a traditional man could accept a dog-girl partner and whether the lifestyle is a sexual kink.
“when you say 11 do you are you thinking about it in in your eyes or are you thinking about it in like the broader Society”
02:39:00
Key MomentSelf-ratings round begins. Meow rates herself 11/10.
“well we'll start with you and then we'll go around the table go ahead 10 um maybe like a seven eight okay closer”
04:48:07
ControversyArson pulls a syringe filled with blood from her bag on-show, claiming it is a token of her manifestation from blood rituals performed the previous night.
“there was a syringe okay gosh that's what I was just drawing it up in you just did a you did this at the table no I keep it on me as a token of my manifestation”
04:52:10
Key MomentJake warns Arson about the dangers of blood rituals and occult practices, saying she is tapping into dark spiritual energy.
“I would urge you girls to be very careful with what you she us she used to take menstrual blood also yeah you guys I'm sorry you might think it's a bit of fun you're going into something that's pretty dark”
04:55:00
Key MomentAngela explains Arson's cult/witchcraft behavior as a manifestation of emotional intensity and desire for control, comparing it to historical blood goddess worship.
“what you're calling delusional is basically you being a very emotionally intense person where you want that true love”
05:12:40
Key MomentAngela argues that Arson's blood magic and cult behavior is ultimately self-harm used to gain an illusion of control.
“drawing your own blood is a form of self harm so it's like you're ultimately hurting yourself to gain control over a situation”
05:15:40
Key MomentBody count round: Bri reveals body count of 6 (was dating from age 17-22).
“literally um I was dating someone for 5 Years From 17 to 22 so mine is only six”
05:16:10
Key MomentBody count round: Arson says she lost count and estimates somewhere between 30 and 200+.
“I lost track honestly I don't know I literally have absolutely no clue if it would be like 30 100 or over that like I have no clue”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions and relationship status
Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian goes around the table on relationship status, demisexuality, femcel identity.
00:15:00
Alternative / subculture dating struggles
Discussion on dating within the alt/e-girl subculture. Arson describes herself as femcel. Meow discusses dog-girl lifestyle and voluntary celibacy. Panel discusses whether alt aesthetic attracts or repels healthy partners.
01:38:20
Arson's relationship history and ER incidents
Arson details 4-year relationship with videographer who became addicted to Percs and had leg amputated and reversed. ER visit from blood-play injury during their second meeting. Hooked via trauma bond.
01:55:00
Mental health, diagnosis, and medication
Raven shares she was told at 16 she would be institutionalized for life; recovered after moving out at 18. Debate on legitimacy of bipolar/BPD diagnoses. Arson acknowledges bipolar-like symptoms and credits them as creative fuel.
02:03:02
Jake Australia arrives and joins panel
Jake (Rattlesnake TV) arrives after driving through flooding storm. Brian introduces him; Jake joins the table.
02:04:14
Ivory (Ariana) pre-show notes discussion
Brian goes through Ariana's pre-show notes: exotic dancer + OnlyFans, perineal tear from sexual encounter requiring diapers for a week, basketball team history at University of Portland, ex who still requests $40 via Venmo, leaning Trump.
02:11:40
Men as demons / toxic relationship patterns
Arson describes modern dating as a scam and men as demons. Angela and Brian note pattern of Arson attracting emotionally unavailable men due to her own unresolved emotional needs.
02:21:40
Meow's dog-girl lifestyle debate
Extended discussion of Meow's dog-girl identity. Jake questions whether it is a sexual kink; Meow denies it. Angela raises cognitive dissonance between wanting a traditional man and presenting as a dog. Brian asks what breed Meow is (lavender Dalmatian).
02:27:20
Feminist and political identity round
Brian asks each guest: are you a feminist? Political leaning? Responses range from feminist/liberal (Meow) to anti-feminist/monarchy (Angela) to apolitical. Arson declines feminist label and is apolitical.
02:39:00
Physical attractiveness / self-rating round
Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Meow rates herself 11, Bri rates 10, Arson 10, Sky 7, Raven 4, Jake 7, Brian 5. Debate on whether self-ratings are objective.
04:48:00
Arson's cult and blood rituals
Arson reveals she leads a group of like-minded women she calls a cult, focused on world liberation and domination. Monthly Airbnb meetings with spell-casting and blood pacts. Pulled a syringe from her bag on-show as a token of manifestation. Jake warns against occult practices. Angela offers psychological analysis.
05:08:20
Body count and mate value debate
Extended panel debate on whether body count affects women's value as a partner. Jake and Angela argue Chastity is a male value preference. Brian argues it is not hypocritical to desire in a partner what you don't possess.
05:15:00
Body count round
Brian goes around table asking body counts. Bri: 6. Arson/Arson-label: 30-200+ (lost count). Sky: ~9. Raven: undisclosed. Angela: undisclosed. Jake: 4. Lesie: 4. Ariana: ~30. Others declined or gave ranges.
06:18:20
Kayla's before/after style transformation
Brian shows before/after photos of Kayla from when she was homeless and kicked out vs. her current alt style. Discussion on how freedom from restrictive home led to her aesthetic expression.
Transcript
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00:56:46
Angelastability out in another woman feeling like they're more safe there but in reality if you get two women who are both unstable who are emotionally volatile who are looking for a sense of pece from another woman who doesn't even know it typically why they got to be
00:56:58
Arsonunstable like like can't you be lesbian and stable no yeah that's not usually the case I don't know I feel like you definitely can I feel like there's there some
00:57:09
Angelalesbians who just chill but inside they kind of keep all of that like turbulence shut down and those typically tend to be the victims in lesbian relationships it's like two girls like two very
00:57:19
Ravenemotional people like that just causes for a lot of chaos exactly lot yeah that's just been my experience and like for I feel like men are 10 times more chaotic for the longterm lesbians too
00:57:31
Ravenfor the long-term lesbians like like the one I was just saying my grandma's friend she told she told us she said look like these are my dating options like I cannot leave my partner because she's trapped yeah she's she's like I'm
00:57:44
TTSliterally trapped like once you get too deep into it like donated $200 thanks M why is it that if a woman sleeps with a bunch of men she's a Sloat but if man
00:57:55
TTSdoes the same thing then he's gay good job casting the most mentally unstable panel ever you've out done yourself wow thank you wow okay he's he's asking why
00:58:07
Arsonhe's asking why he can't sleep with a bunch of men otherwise he's called Gay's calling sleeping with a bunch of women I feel like when a man sleeps with a bunch of women like repeatedly they're overcompensating for something they're
00:58:19
Brian Atlaslike not getting what they're looking for in all these women you he was making a joke did you just get the no was it a joke I didn't why okay here why is it when women sleep with a bunch of men
00:58:30
Brian Atlasthey're [ __ ] but when a man does the same thing he's gay all a a robot the robot voice did
00:58:41
Brian Atlasnot not sound like that all right continuing on with the continuing on with relationship status so you said you're single and you're celibate correct mhm okay so uh wait is it you
00:58:52
Meowtwo who are cele and then you two say demisexual demisexual she's demex demisexual to celibates also I just basically don't have sex with some unless I'm dating them I kind of like not to like denigrate your decisions
00:59:05
Angelaobviously cuz when I was younger I also identified as demisexual but I think if you want you can denigrate but the only reason demisexual became a term is just because we live in such a hypersexual reality that now everyone expects you to clarify yeah I'm not going to have sex
00:59:17
Angelawith you until at minimum I have some bond with you which is like the bare minimum yeah I feel like I'm like I don't like term that everybody how long have you been
00:59:28
Ariana/Jules/Carmencelibate for well I wouldn't say celibate sorry we're going back to dummy seexual and the last time I saw my ex would be about
00:59:38
Ariana/Jules/Carmentwo weeks ago and you could imagine what we did per per period but then me too could I imagine I don't me too but then let me add this you're talking about sexual we've all been there done that
00:59:50
Ariana/Jules/Carmenwait wait go ahead yeah okay so we had sexual incourse thank you the following week week he brings a girl a new girl into where we both work three days in a
01:00:00
Ariana/Jules/Carmenrow yeah dude I'm just were you guys broken up we we had been breaking broken up yes for like about two months and he just kept going back and forth with me telling me that we would get back
01:00:11
Ariana/Jules/Carmentogether and then like I'm just being girl in love I'm going to wait for him no dude I'm so over that [ __ ] good I'm not playing these games
01:00:20
Angelaanymore emo needy he's emo he needs that attention so he does care he does like you he does care about you but he likes the attention you're giving him he can't give that affection back ex he has to have more like not just from you like it
01:00:33
Arsoninterests him to have more yeah I'm just saying you should have never let him play in your face like that from the beginning hey some of us aren't that smart Okay takes us a minute dude for I'm literally sweating
01:00:44
Arsonbullets heater I thought we turned it off no I think the heater still on can we turn it off I thought it was turned
01:00:52
Arsonoff holy [ __ ] like it oh she likes all right no well it's probably too windy um I uh what about you your relationship status
01:01:04
Arsongo ahead um I am currently with my longest lover of four years boyfriend girlfriend boyfriend how long distance four years uh he's in
01:01:15
SkyCanada oh well you live in Canada too right no oh I live in Texas oh okay Texas long distance wow how did you know long are you long distance
01:01:25
SkyI'm wait relationship or yeah wow wait so have you guys seen each other yeah oh okay yeah uh what about you recently me I'm
01:01:36
SkySinglish Singlish what is so you're dating like seven dudes I'm single but is it complicated I still talk to my
01:01:46
Skyex sing uh but you and are you seeing other guys no I cannot what do you mean cannot I um emotionally I yeah I just don't have
01:01:57
Skyinterest in it it just like I'll go on hinge or Bumble and like swipe on dudes and I'll talk to him and they'll say something and then I'll just like get annoyed I'm just like can't how long were you seeing your ex who Curr
01:02:10
Skycomplicated with we were friends for a year before we started dating and but we broke up how long ago Bri like I don't know it's been off and on a lot it's been off and on a lot so I don't know
01:02:22
Arsonlike a month ago maybe you broke up a month AG but you continue to have sex with him yes why gain a new body like why waste it but it's not really a breakup if
01:02:34
Angelayou're continuing it's not I mean CU we're not together and we have established that that we're not boyfriend and girlfriend but he's still taking advantage of that you're still having an inate relationship it's like
01:02:44
Skyhe's using your feelings against you in that what if she's using him for his body women use men for sex all the time don't have sex every time we happens to
01:02:54
Brian Atlasme we don't have sex every time we hang out you women all you think about is sex okay you guys sometimes a guy just wants to cuddle okay I just want to talk I have not come across any of those I just
01:03:06
Arsonwant to talk you know anytime a guy starts cuddling with me he starts getting a little touchy and you just know what he wants automatically and then it starts poking my boyfriend likes to just cuddle and then like I want to just cuddle right now where' you find that on
01:03:20
Brian Atlas[Music] Amazon in La uh okay right now it's kind of complicated with uh with your guy what about you uh I just got into a
01:03:30
Ravenrelationship after like a really long time of being single all right congrats how long have you guys been dating uh well we met like 3 months ago but then he was gone for a month and then I was
01:03:42
Ravengone for a month and then now we're like kind of like officially dating one month uh yeah okay how long were you single before him o like um
01:03:58
Brian Atlassix years six years yeah okay and is this your longest relationship definitely a month no I mean you were single for six
01:04:10
Brian Atlasyears so um oh my I was dating a guy from 13 to 16 so three 13 can you count like a junior high school relationship I know I
01:04:20
Ravendon't count oh it was like super serious actually like it was really serious it serious he flew out to see me how old was three times mdle School uhuh like three times how old was he long distance
01:04:32
Ravenuh he was the same age how did you meet him at this so he so he flew out or his parents
01:04:41
Ravenflew him out his mom drove him all the way from Ohio um so he um I literally I thought I was going to marry this guy so he at 13 or at 16 13-year-olds are deep
01:04:52
Ravenfeelers 13-year-olds are very deep like um yeah so that's why I won't let my kids have relationship it's super cringe we met on Xbox Live yep definitely
01:05:01
Ravengetting married he actually he actually material he was really into my friend but my friend like rejected
01:05:11
Ravenhim and then like months later he just messages me on Xbox so his I see you're watching so his plan a didn't work so he went to plan B and you took it yeah no
01:05:23
Ravenbaby don't 13 um yeah and then he ended up being a major douchebag like yeah Miss girl you were I doed a huge bullet no like um
01:05:34
Ravenyeah it was long distance his mom drove him out to see me and then I think he he like flew like once he got of age for sure once he got older yeah and then and then I was kind of
01:05:45
Ravenlike hey I think I'm like a lesbian and then he was like cool I think I'm gay oh and then um now he now he has a baby so um I mean that was like so he went
01:05:57
Arsonfrom he thinks he's gay to having a baby yeah he has a baby with with his partner like a guy partner or she's a they them okay okay okay yeah I don't know a better way to it's like a so it's
01:06:08
Arsonbasically kind of a win-win for him yeah he gets Best of Both Worlds yeah okay yeah I I went to say he defin won I mean he's got to fulfill his fantasy somehow
01:06:19
Angelaso that works for him that works for him yeah do you think maybe per chance because that was your one experience with a man you were like I'm done with this I'm going to become a lesbian and then you realized the reality of that and then you stopped with that too um so
01:06:31
Ravenlike okay so we were like madly in love and then when I met him in person um I hated him you didn't see his face on Xbox Live no we video chat we video
01:06:44
Ravenchatted all day every day like all day all throughout the night like all the time we we video chatted constantly but it's like when he came in person I couldn't turn him off you know like you could just put the phone down be like okay I'm done talking to you you're
01:06:57
Ravengetting annoying like put the phone down don't answer right I couldn't turn him off in person and that was um why I it got annoying yeah 101 she couldn't just
01:07:09
Brian Atlashang up the phone what the hell wait uh we have 36 this must be a glitch on
01:07:17
Arsonmy computer do we have 36,000 people watching currently wow y h what have you seen all of USS the girls wait is that like the most you've ever had or
01:07:29
Ravensomething 32 wait what the hell what somebody must have how's this happening I just have really good stories I'm sorry this is really strange no
01:07:40
Brian Atlasthis I have like 200 follow let me just give you some more that way you can just did it wait chat I just I just pulled up it on my on my end normally I'm not keeping track of our concurrent viewers
01:07:51
Angeladid chat did this just happen is this on YouTube or twitch it's on YouTube is that a lot check the followers and the likes how much do you usually have I just want to put it into
01:08:02
Brian Atlasperspective for myself um is it usually 10,000 no it's like between 5 and 10K so so you have like three times the amount
01:08:13
Ariana/Jules/Carmensomebody's um I I don't know maybe we're getting did it just bump because I think we're somebody's like trying to is sending Bots or something but be like viewbotting cuz I don't know how it works on YouTube Compared to twitch but
01:08:26
Brian Atlasare there raids on YouTube I don't stream on YouTube that's super weird anyways I don't know um I guess we'll find out run ads hey unless some like some other major streamer did a redirect but most people
01:08:38
Brian Atlasdon't do that I can't well in any case we have 30 somehow 30,000 concurrent viewers I have no idea it must be bought somebody's [ __ ] botting it um it's the Xbox Live
01:08:49
Brian Atlasboy he misses her low key it's really weird um anyways um where were we we're talking about relationship status uh I think we we
01:09:00
Angelafinished with you go ahead with you um single and my last relationship was 4 years which was the longest relationship I've had and that was about a year and a
01:09:10
Brian Atlashalf ago if not two years ago okay all right wait so sorry I'm kind of like distracted by this because by the could you just repeat that you're currently in a what single no single oh single single how long have you been single about a
01:09:22
Brian Atlasyear and a half to two years okay one two all right Perfect all right so we've gone around the table we've gotten everybody's relationship status so I do want to ask uh I thought this would be an interesting question to ask
01:09:34
Brian Atlasso um are your parents going around the table starting with you are your parents still together um no they're not they haven't been since I've been like a baby they were were they married and then got
01:09:45
Brian Atlasdivorced or just never married uh yeah they were married okay but uh then they split up when you were uh young yeah okay what about you my parents are still together somehow they literally met when
01:09:56
Arsonthey were like heck hella young and I don't know they they've been able to stick by each other even with like hell problems so
01:10:07
Meowyeah nice they're good to learn from then yeah yeah okay never quit they're married yeah they're married gotcha what about you contrary to popular belief uh
01:10:18
MeowI do have a father and in fact he is absolutely infatuated with my mother I have never seen such an example of what it means to love and be loved than I do
01:10:28
Meowwatching the way that my father treats my mother and the way that they together operate and support each other as partners it's one of the most beautiful things I've ever gotten to witness practically they're like their business
01:10:40
Ravenpartners their business owners their romantic Partners I mean Rider dies genuinely that's beautiful you sound very intelligent so I mean that's like not really like hard to you just dress
01:10:50
Ravencolorful like I like to dress colorful like I'm just not today but you know what about you my parents are divorced divorced as
01:11:01
Arson[ __ ] they got divorced when I was like 15 15 okay got it what about you I kind of touched on it already but my parents are divorced they've been divorced since I was probably like seven or eight years
01:11:11
Arsonold they absolutely hate each other's guts they don't talk haven't spoken in years same with you Kayla yeah okay what about you um my biological parents are
01:11:23
Arsonnot together and my adter parents are not together either all right what about you my parents are divorced divorced okay so my parents had actually gotten divorced over a disagreement with like
01:11:35
Arsonreligious beliefs and then after like 5 seven years um like they kept on good terms the entire time and still like co-p parented really well and they got remarried now and I think they're like really happy really healthy really
01:11:46
Skysupportive and I'm like really like happy for them and proud of them B um my parents are still together but sometimes I think they shouldn't
01:11:57
Skybe why do you think they shouldn't be um my mom is very unaffectionate and doesn't like to she's not I feel like she's not in touch with her feelings she
01:12:08
Skyhas a very hard time like showing her love so your dad deserves better from your mom my dad is like it's weird it's like you know how in relationships usually the mom is more loving and
01:12:19
Skyshowing like more affection it's the opposite my dad is so like supportive like giving the girls compliments and like oh how was your day and my mom was just like just like there but like have you tried like talking to her about it
01:12:32
Skyand like confronting her we don't really have conversations our conversations always turned into arguments we can't just like sit down and it just always gets too heated yeah
01:12:45
Skythat really sucks I haven't really talked to them since they kicked me out huh I haven't seen them for like the holidays or like like anything um but I
01:12:56
Skyactually just found out that my mom has cancer so I kind of feel like now that I feel like it's pressured to make up with
01:13:07
Ariana/Jules/Carmenher now I think putting in effort will definitely be worth it um it it'll also I think be like really difficult but maybe having a potentially a third party could help but I think yeah definitely
01:13:17
Skytry and you know mend things what you can and hopefully don't have regrets yeah it just kind of sucks because like I've talked to my therapist and she was
01:13:25
Skylike you should um want you you should be ready for you should how do I word this prepare yourself prepare myself and
01:13:35
SkyI should choose to um want to fix my relationship but I feel like I have to find out myself and I don't really fully forgive them for
01:13:47
Skywhat they've done but now I feel like it's rushed where like I have to you know now I have to uh make did you share your parent parents status me yeah no we
01:13:58
Brian Atlasleft off with you here let's okay go ahead um yeah my parents are divorced parents are married but my mother passed away 2 and a half years ago sorry to hear that um someone else yeah so I don't
01:14:10
Brian Atlasknow there there's a weird viewership go thing going on here um I don't know like first off I mean I this is our normal viewership is somewhere
01:14:21
Brian Atlasbetween like five five to 10,000 tops typically so I'm not claiming this viewership I think somebody is
01:14:30
Brian Atlasviewbotting us I don't know if if YouTube is watching this is like I ain't claiming this is our normal views like somebody is like targeted view
01:14:40
Angelaviewbotting us um I think it's probably fine like uh why would they do that though isn't that a good thing though yeah no not really uh I mean like if
01:14:51
Brian Atlasyou're if like there's some way to prove that it's like the channnel originator yeah if they can prove that the host is the one who view it it's like a violation of terms of
01:15:03
Brian Atlasservice but so I don't know if like this is a targeted attack but I mean um we've done 140 episodes and typically our viewership is between 5 to 10,000 people
01:15:14
Brian Atlasuh this is clearly I unless we got to redirect this is clearly not our normal viewership so uh if YouTube ad mens are watching I think we're getting view boded by somebody else I don't know in
01:15:24
Brian Atlasany case um let's continue on with the show so I'm trying to see where we uh left off here I think we uh I want to get into a lot of you provided some pre-show notes and there's a lot of
01:15:36
Brian Atlaspre-show notes from all of you guys so Nick sorry the [ __ ] was that dude why why did you do that I didn't mean to all right
01:15:47
Brian Atlasum so you guys provided a lot of pre pre-show notes so I want to just go over it um let's see so we have Kayla you
01:15:58
Brian Atlassaid in your pre-show notes that you provided to us that uh you were a cam girl yes no longer a cam girl though is that correct no longer you said you uh somebody wanted
01:16:09
Kaylato De you wanted he wanted to be degraded yeah and he wanted what he
01:16:16
Kaylawanted me to push yeah he came on cam ready to do this he had a metal clamp and he wanted me to force him like like
01:16:28
Kaylatell him to push him to cut off one of his balls and he did what get out get out and then he came back later like I guess let's not be too graphic with any
01:16:39
Kaylaof the descriptions but he did he actually plop he actually did it yes and you seen it I saw it went plop plop ground like the what if it was fake like
01:16:52
Kaylaencourage this cuz he paid me like $2,000 and like if he's already like on the site like someone is going to get the money either me or someone else wait so but he paid you 2,000 for you to just
01:17:03
Arsonwatch him do it did you get did you get the money before like even I got to send pass for on this one well and then he
01:17:13
Angelacame back um again and then showed me the scar maybe he was trying to traumatize you out of the industry but
01:17:22
Brian Atlaslike czy there are people that are actually masochistic yeah yeah no there are people like that abely that I know
01:17:32
Kaylaso he venmoed you 2000k no on the site he tipped me on the site he tipped you so it was taxed on that site not even direct yeah cuz then like you can't like give your ven on those sites cuz then they I wouldn't
01:17:45
Brian Atlasknow sorry like it's like only fans like you can't like give your cash app on there how are like are you do you have mental scars like he showed you on camera doing it correct yes I feel like
01:17:57
Kaylathat'd be kind of [ __ ] a little traumatizing to see somebody mutilate themselves well I'm fine [ __ ] it 2,000 bucks okay she's Kayla's Kayla is a
01:18:08
Brian Atlas[ __ ] Trooper she's a trooper okay all right was a dream a weird dream at govern the happen Okay uh let's see you also said you think it's hard for lots of people to date nowadays because we all have so
01:18:20
Brian Atlasmuch accessibility to so many people that a lot of people think they can always have something better instead of trying to really deeply Bond and understand somebody else well you've been in a relationship for three years right so did you I mean is that
01:18:32
Kaylasomething you experienced prior to your relationship um just also like friends like like one of my friends they talk about the relationships a lot and I think people don't put in the
01:18:44
Kaylawork like like keep trying when they're in a relationship cuz they think oh I can I I can deserve better I can do better and then you don't realize like later on when you break up with them like months down the line that you
01:18:58
Arsonactually weren't treating that you weren't being treated that bad and that the dating pool was actually [ __ ] you don't know what you have until it's gone men are literally crazy I've heard of
01:19:08
Arsonmen like literally say to me like who like would cheat on their girl all the time and like he R Maddie can you get that continue he literally said like oh
01:19:20
ArsonI can go out here and like cheat as much as I want and then like go up to my girl and straight lighter her face and she will never know like I'm just that good at manipulation I'm like okay and
01:19:32
Arsonlike and like so I don't know I think just like men are literally like delusional in certain ways that's why when I hear something like that now like when I see a man like I just like I just know like they they just aren't they
01:19:45
Arsondon't think right you know know what I mean but are they wrong I want to like add something and bring it back with like full love and respect but you also said that you're delusional yes true but that doesn't mean my
01:19:55
Arsondelusions are mean or Rune or damaging you know yeah have you um it sounds like a lot of the people you've met have been very like questionable where do you normally like meet people um shoot I
01:20:06
Arsonguess like probably at like music shows or like through like friends and stuff or like dming on Instagram yeah okay but anyways like are they are they
01:20:18
Arsonwrong though what do you mean like that they can go cheat go up to their girlfriend they're not wrong they're not wrong yeah no I know they they find enjoyment out of it told me find
01:20:30
Arsonenjoyment in the fact that it's wrong like they like like like it to feel wrong you know that brings them Joy my brother is one of those guys I think those type of men are typically emotionally broken and they know what
01:20:43
Angelatype of women are going to let themselves and I I don't want to say let themselves but it's like there's they target emotionally unwell women so that way they basically get them hooked on this chaos and they know that it's going
01:20:54
Arsonto be in their but they literally like like the girl won't like know or if she knows she she'll lie to yourself yeah yeah I know what you mean yeah it's not all men but those type of men they know
01:21:06
Angelawho to go for basically and those type of women tend to only go for the men who like want that chaos basically that's why if you feel a guy's boring maybe that's good and you should push through that that way you're not led by emotion
01:21:20
Angelawhich is typically what ends relationships which is like I'm not feeling it anymore and it's like you don't feel it all the time so that's kind of my two cents yeah I don't know I feel like opposites are like good
01:21:31
Meowsometimes though yeah I think that could play into like the coolage effect as well if y wants to explain that oh like the coolage effect like with like the porn and like how like porn affects your brain well how like the addiction with like the do the dopamine receptors yeah
01:21:44
Meowabsolutely I mean I it completely makes sense it completely makes sense that there are individuals that are actually actively frying their brain chemically with either the porn they're consuming on the side whether whatever flirting
01:21:57
Meowthey might be doing you know in their personal time and you know whatever so I think that a lot of a lot of individuals can operate in a similar sadistic way but they write off their sadism as acceptable because well I mean I'm not
01:22:09
AngelaI'm not this bad I'm not actually out there doing this when it is just as damaging no there was this one guy that I knew that just kind of sent me spiraling because it was like he was trying to do that whole baiting thing where it's like trying to love bomb you basically where it's like they try to
01:22:22
Angelagive you the flattering the whole I I've never kind of I don't know I've always seen that as being just kind of stupid but what annoyed me was that he would excuse things that were just awful like
01:22:33
Angelahe had a thing for having inter intercourse with like married women and he said that it was like super attractive to him and I'm like the things that people like that will normalize and then the way that they'll emotionally manipulate women who are
01:22:45
Angelaemotionally unwell it's something that needs to have a level of awareness risen because right now all that's happening is just glamorization romanti ization of that being like Oh that's what for example I imagine in the case of your
01:22:57
Angelaparents since they have that sort of like intense sort of chaotic relationship you are also that loyal that devoted that sort of like I'll never give up on you but you have it in a way where it's not organized and it's
01:23:09
Angelanot in a way where let's like these are the bullet points that I need from a relationship you have it in a way where it's like as long as you're sticking with me no matter what you do to me I'll be there for you and Men
01:23:20
Angelatypically won't value that they won't appreciate that they'll just find someone else that they can get another thrill from basically definitely in my last relationship I was cheating on like
01:23:30
Arsonall the time but like I just felt like I loved them so much that the hurt that of getting out of it would be like 10 times worse than like that's manipulation it's the drug it's like a drug addiction you
01:23:42
Angelawere addicted to their like emotional input their like company you're attached to them but you don't actually love them because love doesn't equal pain I feels like you love them it's like a stop exact
01:23:54
Angelawhere it's like love is supposed to be a feeling where you feel grateful for the person it's not supposed to be a feeling where are they with another woman right now I need them so badly if you need that it's it's I mean and that's the thing about forgiveness I feel like I'm
01:24:06
Arsonable to forgive and forget almost instantaneously just cuz like I don't know I feel like if you dwell hold grudges it only keeps down your energy and like literally I'm so focused on like trying to just like live my most
01:24:18
Angelalike positive like life and mindset that like I just like I really sincerely don't care if there's like a lack of like and excuse me once again it's like a measure of a lack of Standards it's like yes you shouldn't hold grudges yes
01:24:30
Angelayou shouldn't be resentful but the fact that you're like basically dming guys first basically asking them to love you forgiving them isn't necessarily forgiving them it's just looking the other way and hoping that they'll give
01:24:40
Brian Atlasyou something that they're basically too broken inside to give you yeah going to zom here Bri zry you said you had you had a crazy unique story a guy dm'd you
01:24:53
Brisaid he'd give you $200 to take a picture with him in New York and you did it mhm and he was shaking when he was yeah he like theide me and he was like literally like whimpering and Shing is that it that's your craziest I don't I
01:25:05
Skymean I have like a couple crazy stories but okay also that's not the first time someone asked to take a picture with her I don't know remember when we went on the train so yeah someone also asked to
01:25:17
Brian Atlaslike take a picture with her okay all right uh we have crunk here Kronosaurus is that who's Kronosaurus you're you're Kronosaurus oh uh okay you're you're
01:25:28
Brian Atlasfeminist correct you describe yourself as a feminist yes okay you say you wanted to talk about how men treat women like like [ __ ] um am I I'm though like
01:25:40
Ariana/Jules/Carmensome some men I haven't found a man who has treated me well in my life but I know what you mean where are you finding you meet them yeah exactly no it's my type in men and so that's why I'm taking
01:25:50
Arsona step back and looking at my myself what is wrong with myself that I attracted to that chaos though it like feels good it feels exciting how I was do you have like a chaos role model of a
01:26:03
Arsonhealthy relationship no not a single one so yeah maybe like go to church and find like an old married couple and ask them people that have been together for 60 years like go ask them like how do you like find a good partner and how do you
01:26:15
Brian Atlaslike stay together for so long I well I have a question cuz you guys have like a very specific aesthetic and I think this might be related to you guys do you guys
01:26:23
Brian Atlasalso want to date men within your I don't know sub genre or subculture or much aesthetic mhm
01:26:33
Brian Atlascuz call me daddy is that is that who rid us no they don't live stream uh call me Daddy thank you for the gifted 50 memberships um I is that actually that'd
01:26:45
Brian Atlasbe curious if it's it's actually them I don't think so though I think that's the the podcast or whatever I think it's call her daddy oh call her okay duh thank you yeah I got that I got that wrong yeah I know I don't listen to it
01:26:56
Brian Atlasbut I've heard of it um thank you for the gifted 50 memberships appreciate it so I mean it occurs to me that could the people that are drawn to these
01:27:09
Brian Atlassubcultures no offense to you guys who are in it but could they be more predisposed or could there be some correlation with you know either mental
01:27:19
Arsonillness mental illness or most definitely like I think a lot of like us like girlies with beautiful princess disorder like maybe what is that what is
01:27:29
Arsonbeautiful princess disorder BPD but maybe the bipolar Bine personality disorder okay do you have BPD um you
01:27:40
Arsonknow I never been diagnosed I have been diagnosed bipolar but uh I didn't go my therapist long enough I like only went and I was like about a 5150 myself and then I was like oh I'm fine the next day growing up growing up in a household
01:27:51
Meowwith that as like a very large theme of mental illness being a very large theme just without I didn't have a choice in it I really hate the um yosif foration
01:28:02
Meowof uh BPD it's beautiful princess's order like no you need help and you want to be a member of society that can be good to the people around you and I think that that is something exciting to go into and look into I think you're
01:28:14
Angelaamazingly beautiful but I do support therapy a lot it has helped me a ton in my life I I think I and my friend would probably support maybe looking into a religion I mean no I've been to like a
01:28:26
Arsonfew different therapists but like like like literally like if I only go when I'm straight in crisis and then as soon as I'm like n I'm like it's like you need that follow through I feel like therapy is I think what you need is like
01:28:38
Arsona deep sense of inner love and I think therapy sometimes is absent of that just don't understand they literally don't relate they don't like like I'll tell them a story one yeah you have to find one that's for I've never had a good a
01:28:51
Angelatime with therapist I've never found one that like it's just basically talk therapy and it's like I already know what's going on stupid I canit any of my friends and do the same thing for free just like read Proverbs and maybe some
01:29:02
Ravenlife lessons will come to you basically read books and that basically explain books are definitely helpful no I do I I I do agree if not therapy or religion is absolutely amazing I've probably had
01:29:14
Arsonthousands of therapist like thousands like a lot every week I was m a lot of waste of time when I can like figure this out for myself and find my own outlets and find
01:29:26
Meowlike way more I don't know just beneficial things seem well and it seems like you you kind of going about it yourself you're at a loss you're like well I'm involuntary CIT I'm not you know like that's like a lit thing to me
01:29:38
Angelathat's not a good that's not a bad thing to me you know what I mean I think that in your case it's like it's not that you're about your own thing it's just that once again as explained like therapists just they just give you therapy language they just give you a
01:29:50
Angelatherapy brain but they actually give you the solutions or the Deep answers that you seeks exactly so I think I think in your there can be problem as resolution for sure but I think in your case maybe the the thing you're looking for is that
01:30:03
Angelasort of like unconditional love that cannot come from a man it can't come from another human being I think you need something that gives you a deep meaning in life and synthesize Jesus yeah can I just say also I didn't find a
01:30:15
Ravenman until I stopped looking and I started working on myself like I I was looking for years like I was like I need like I was like I need someone like you were saying ear I need somebody and I
01:30:26
Ravenwas like looking on dating apps constantly constantly and like it was finally when I stopped looking and then my friend said girl we need to get you a guy and I was like no thank you you know
01:30:37
Arsonyeah I just think that I'm just way too impatient like when I like want things in life like I'm don't have any what's it called not instant gratification like the opposite of that nothing good comes easy yeah exactly and you can't be picky
01:30:49
Ravensee that's the thing is literally like I was so pi picky on these dating websites you cannot be picky my friend but then you're settling why would you want to settle no but you're not you're you're absolutely not let me tell you my friend
01:31:00
Raventold me pay pay the $1 to see everybody who likes you and I had like thousands from months of having this app and I Swip she told me just swipe swipe on all of them and I was like oh but no no no
01:31:11
Ravennot this guy swipe on them like she was like swipe on every single one and I got a guy that is now my boyfriend who is an amazing guy brings me flowers every
01:31:21
Ravensingle time we meet pays for dinner is just a lovely amazing guy and he he he was one of those guys and he actually sent me like a note from like like 6 months before that and I didn't see it
01:31:34
Brian Atlasbecause I didn't swipe right on him and I swiped right on him honestly AB Che thank you for the gifted 20 memberships appreciate it well okay going back to the question at hand so um are you exclusively are you guys exclusively
01:31:46
Brian Atlastrying to date people within your subculture no yes uh in a relationship well you're in a Rel but I mean you're single you're single you're single I
01:31:56
Briused to but like they're just like mentally like disable and like wait they're what they're like I don't know they're mentally disabled the you know what I
01:32:08
Brimean their mental health isn't good unable disabled is
01:32:16
Brilike they they might now I just like look for like normal people and like okay question for for you guys you are you heavily tattooed um on my legs legs I think you two are pretty heavily
01:32:28
Brian Atlastattooed would you prefer a guy who's heavily tattooed yes I love men with tattoos pretty much only dat men is it a deal breaker if a guy doesn't have no tattoo like no tattoos no choir boy [ __ ]
01:32:40
Brian AtlasI no no yeah definitely not I can't dat it like any Normie like you can't dat it Normie no but if you okay they don't you're going to continuous judgmental your rejection of nor is you to
01:32:53
Arsoncontinuously date it's just like how do you even talk to them like if I want to talk about like music art like any of like the stuff I'm interested in like they literally have nothing to say or they just be like I just go to work I mean
01:33:05
Arsonyou could introduce like you could introduce them to your art or your the your type of music or lame as you just start listening to drip and swag if you have no swag then like honestly we're
01:33:18
Meownot going to like you're not going to click at all like you have like like I don't know it's a whole like bad boy thing like the bad boy can I can I reject the premise that there is a inherent like issue with the way that
01:33:31
Meowpeople operate you guys if you're going to speak please speak into the microphone go ahead s I'm hiding we told you multiple times go ahead sorry bestie um yeah I'd like to reject the premise that it's uh something to do with a subculture because in fact the most
01:33:43
Meowfetishistic men that have ever interacted with me are considered Normie men they like the idea of having that wild child that oh my gosh I'm going to shock my parents I'm going to shock my family those are the experiences that
01:33:54
MeowI've had and I it hasn't made me swear off to anything but what it has made me do is realize that there's a bigger issue at hand than the sub genre of music that somebody listens to I think it's a beautiful thing that somebody can
01:34:05
Brian Atlassh essentially strawmanning my argument and also I didn't make the claim that Normie men can't be dysfunctional in some way the point I was trying to make
01:34:14
Brian Atlasis the people that might be attracted or might be more uh more likely to participate in certain subcultures there could very well be and
01:34:26
Brian AtlasI haven't researched it but there very well could be and it may very well be factually the case that it does attract certain types of personalities and perhaps there's a correlation with
01:34:36
Meoweither past trauma or mental illness I'm not saying they're bad people that's how we relate I didn't mean to insinuate that they were bad people she was explaining how in her experience that normies have nothing to offer they're so boring and to me I said well that's
01:34:49
Meowreally interesting because my personal EXP experience as an alternative person who's dressed like this for a number of years and lived an alternative lifestyle is that's been the attitude that I've received in certain situations being from the Southern United States in those
01:35:01
Angelaenvironments and I don't think that's a bad thing to point out it's just a different experience there's a lot of traditional men who do like girls like you because it's it gives them that sense of I'm saving you basically you just have to let them is the point but I don't want to let them and I don't want
01:35:14
Arsonto be with them because like I don't know I just want somebody I wouldn't want to feel like a project yeah yeah like what I want somebody that's already like that inspires me where I'm around them and they're like you know they invite me to cool things they're
01:35:26
Arsonconnecting me like like I want to feel confident and prideful in who I'm with not like someone I have to like tote around or something but like in private I like them or something so why do you see normal people at like that way what
01:35:38
Arsondo you mean like you're saying like you were categorizing like Normie people being like way too lame way too boring oh like like in the past in the past I used to be feral like a literal feral wild animal like I would
01:35:50
Arsonbasically stable relationship yeah I've had one one that lasted four years that but I mean stable heck no but that's why it worked because we play like we were
01:36:01
Arsonokay with each other's crazy and in fact like loved each other for it you know like like so it just like works so well like and so this was the normal relationship I never I don't know about
01:36:14
Arsonokay maybe I was like in high school I had one but I don't really count that like cuz I don't know just compared to the love I felt when I was like with somebody like similar to me it was so
01:36:24
Arsonstrong so obsessive and just like obsessive yes it was it it's satisfied addiction yes it satisfied a certain like you know like when you have these
01:36:33
Arsondisorders you have a certain need and driving you for risky behaviors it the comfort that you're finding I I understand that I've like experienced it myself um but I think if you want
01:36:46
Skysomeone to like actually get you you have to be willing to like give them the chance and like actually be like to open up to them and even if they may seem like closed-minded or something if they open up to you as well which like people normally should in
01:36:58
Arsonrelationships normally people grow together in relationships they come to understand the other become more like the other and I think that would be what it sounds like you're looking for I feel
01:37:09
Arsonlike also like in a relationship with like a norm a normi or however you per se call them MH like they might not like your aesthetic or whatever but you have
01:37:21
Arsonhave to grow with them anyways so a big part of my life like fashion is almost like the number one thing if you're not like that comes first like if you don't like have a certain look it's honestly
01:37:33
Arsoneven though that's super shallow that's just like like it's like on Tinder and hge you don't know these people areed why do they have to like it too though why can't you just have your knee
01:37:45
Angelaand then they might have their own thing I think honestly they kind of do like the aesthetic though yeah they're like too scared to like do it themselves you know I think maybe it's more so and correct me if I'm wrong once again I think because perhaps you might not have
01:37:58
Angelaa strong understanding of what's going on inside of you you seek other men be who parallel you or mirror you so that you understand yourself but then there's probably going to come a point where you realize there's severe consequences that
01:38:10
Arsoncome with that that'll make you have to reflect and think I have to kind of like discipline my emotions to remove myself from these intense situations it just like yeah it just like feels impossible sometimes like so many times like what
01:38:22
Arsonshe was saying how like you make a mistake and you're like okay I'm not going to ever do that again and literally you're doing it over and over but so like that's why I just like completely canceled it all out like I I
01:38:33
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TTSbillion1 million 111,111 donated $200 a train
01:39:03
Brian Atlasgoes nice kindergarten that's what I'm trying to be I'm trying to be here bringing it uh back to arson princess here uh so you said that you were in a four-year
01:39:15
Brian Atlasrelationship with a videographer and he ended up getting addicted to perks and then got bone cancer and then had to get his leg amputated yeah did you stay with him through that whole process or I
01:39:26
Arsonstayed with him for like a year through it but just like it it was just like too much like I don't even want to speak hella badly on him just cuz like he has
01:39:37
Arsonbeen through so oh he has been through so much like he didn't even just get his leg amputated it was like left amputated and like put on backwards and then like the foot joint now acts as a knee joint
01:39:48
Arsonand like bro like like that happening to someone is like just like I don't know like it takes a toll crazy so like like he just took all
01:40:01
Arsonhis pain out cuz he had obviously was going through like so much and he just like took it out all on me which was like understandable but you can only put up with it so long of like someone being
01:40:10
Brian Atlaslike a raging mess every day so yeah okay and then you also said once sex landed you in the RR ER excuse me oh my God wait okay so it was actually like so
01:40:21
Arsonfun and it's like such a beautiful story even though like it was crazy like it was literally how we fell in love like so it was like our second day literally I met him like the second time I met him
01:40:34
Arsonand this was when I was in my real emo era like I was I would wear like a lot of black and stuff but I at that point in time I identified as a vampire like I was a vampire and um and so like I was
01:40:46
Arsonlike o we should watch we should try blood play but it was supposed to be like like silly or whatever a tiny little drop like literally just a tiny drop and then but but for some
01:40:56
Arsonreason like we used a freaking kitchen knife and it was so dull and so like like we tried to do like a tiny cut and like it it wouldn't work and so I was like don't be a [ __ ] and then like I just like grabbed my leg and he's just
01:41:10
Arsonlike I was like just do it really fast and like for some reason in my brain like when I manic like it it like doesn't think that correctly and so like he was like okay she say I cut I cut and
01:41:20
Arsonthen and so he he just like went once really fast and um my leg end up like fing over don't show show that don't show
01:41:33
Brian Atlasthat don't show that don't show that good steak did that was that on camera Nick no please tell me Nick did did you get any of that on camera I don't just it's not your fault but just tell me yes or no did you get it on camera I was
01:41:47
Arsonwatching the screen and it kind of popped up for a split second I showed it that way it wasn't that way just a reference as a person who take her [ __ ] phone please take her [ __ ]
01:41:56
Ravenphone how did I even get it back for the pinch oh um as a person with a significant history of self harm that was like really [ __ ] up what you just did damn I'm sorry no I get it cuz it's
01:42:10
Arsonlike once again it's like you're in the zone you kind of like lose awareness and it's like you kind of can't feel things but it's like I don't know we laughed it off we thought it was funny and then we like went to the ER and then I had this
01:42:20
Arsonwhole vision of us like like our whole lives together and old um we I did used to do a lot of psychedelics so maybe I had to do with
01:42:31
Arsonthat but I don't I don't do psychedelics anymore cuz I already unlocked the the other 10% of my brain you get from that so but stop it get some help but and and then like I just was
01:42:44
Arsonlike you know what can you like not ghost me after this and then he didn't leave for 4 years so it ended up being like like just like a funny thing we laughed about later on no I mean like
01:42:54
Angelaonce again it's like was this the one who had the leg put on backwards yeah it's like although it's like intense and it seems like it's you're satisfying each other's emotional scratching that emotional need basically it's like
01:43:07
Angelayou're worshiping each other you become each other's Gods essentially and it's like you then do things that are like objectively kind of harmful to like a healthy sane society that can go really bad really fast like Amy win housee in
01:43:20
Angelaher boyfriend they they ended really badly because that's the spiral it's like you're not in love you're just basically spiraling out together and consenting to it so it's it's best to kind of like practice that pause
01:43:32
Angelapractice that sort of like awareness for your own health and also for the health of those around you as well but it's like and see like and that's that's the thing if you surround I don't know just
01:43:43
Arsonlike certain groups like you can like say things like that and like not be judged and like if anything like people like laugh you know Define as judgment though like what how how does judgment what would you define as judgment like a
01:43:54
Angelarecoil from you or is it like an evaluation of your behavior just not like matching my energy you know yeah it's like I think once again it's like and once again maybe I'm wrong because you might not have an understanding of
01:44:05
Angelayourself you enjoy people around you that might make you feel like you can be understood or at least you're safe to not feel understood mhm so yeah once again like I think you're in really good steps by staying single for right now
01:44:19
Angelajust because you might attract people people who can hurt you but it's keep in that path and remember the value and self- Lov that you need on the inside basically I have some more notes here you said dating is ridiculous to me men
01:44:30
Brian Atlasonly bring you down you're celibate you mentioned you're in your incel era you said you said in your preow notes Here men are all narcissist with anger issues and can't be
01:44:41
Arsontrusted yeah I like like literally I don't know for me every man I've talked to like like they talk talk about them in such such a way where
01:44:52
Arsonthey'll like like like say they'll be like oh this guy wears fake designer like or like like this guy like I don't know they'll just like bring down so many others around you like trying to like build themselves up based off their
01:45:04
Arsonown I don't know and I think it's just like a negative energy to put out that is nasty energy but like I don't like it being generalized on to like I do definitely gener generalized it and that's definitely not everyone's
01:45:17
Arsonexperience that's my own personal experience and like I don't I've just had like almost all of them be negative to the point where it's just like I completely had to switch over my whole mentality if I didn't want to remain
01:45:28
Angeladepressed anymore you know what I mean so it's like a cope no I think I think because if a man is critical if you don't have the tools necessary to like fix whatever they might be criticizing in others which might reflect in yourself then it kind of just depresses you and makes you feel bad about
01:45:42
Arsonyourself cuz you're like how I don't even think it's just me either like every single to story we were talking about Li now literally every story it was talking about how a man was [ __ ] up in Subway you too literally every
01:45:53
Arsonsingle story I didn't hear one that was like oh this was so positive like you know I've been in in like absolutely amazing relationship for four years and I would do anything for him I I would give the world like to say that I do
01:46:05
Ariana/Jules/Carmenthink like with all of our Styles it does tend to be the guys that we are attracted to I will admit that mhm all right little round of applause for for her on that one I'm sorry but like I'm
01:46:17
Brian AtlasI'm finally answer the question one earlier said like the you like bad boys was it I think it was you who said that I mean is it any surprise but like if if
01:46:28
Brian Atlasthese are the type of men if these are the type of men that you find yourself attracted to Bad Boys is it any surprise
01:46:36
Brian Atlasthat in eventually down the road they they uh are literal bad Bo act yes act badly and uh live up to their
01:46:47
Arsonreputation um but they're also like a lot of Time Master manipulators so like they'll literally like fully convince you you know that so it can't be your fault yeah well I mean I mean I'm not
01:46:59
Arsongoing to take not any responsibility or whatever but um lot of things are my fault too but also also I don't know like they'll literally make themselves
01:47:08
Brian Atlasseem like one way and then like full 360 like change on you over like okay you also wrote that you are a feminist and a liberal you have strong opinions on both
01:47:20
Brian Atlasum before I go into my next thing um just going around the table uh who here considers themselves a feminist who and then who here uh how do you lean politically are you liberal moderate
01:47:32
Brian Atlasconservative apolitical starting with you go
01:47:39
Brian Atlasahead are you a feminist and then your political leanings I guess kind of yeah kind of
01:47:47
Briyeah a feminist what about your politics I really like politics like that liberal Progressive Trump supporter what are we talking I guess I I think you probably
01:47:59
Brian Atlasyou seem like a trump supporter to me Kanye Kanye is more your speed kind of okay good to know um what about you
01:48:09
Meowwell yeah feminist and liberal for sure sure what about you not a feminist definitely moderate I I value traditionalism in a lot of ways sure I
01:48:20
Kaylasaid feminist and apolitical cuz doesn't apolitical mean like you don't really have you're not super involved with politics I wouldn't necessarily say I'm
01:48:32
Arsona feminist either um there's definitely statue of limitations you know um I also don't pay attention to any sort of politics because it just destroyed so
01:48:41
Arsonmuch of my family it's just like okay um I wouldn't say I'm necessarily a feminist because I feel like the way that I has been been turned in today is just there's just I don't know it's Mass
01:48:53
Arsonit's like mandry yeah like I have my own idea being feminist like a feminist is me like definition L I'm sorry um yeah I don't care about politics really that much either sure what about you yeah I
01:49:05
Ariana/Jules/Carmenknow nothing on politics I don't keep up with any of that stuff I stay in my room and hibernate that's all I care about but a political for sure okay
01:49:15
Skyyeah I love men I love women I'm like humanitarian just naturalist okay what about you um I am not involved
01:49:25
Skyin politics at all okay feminist um I don't know okay what about you um I'm an
01:49:35
Ravenadvocate for woman in like my own way definitely not feminist as far as like the typical way um and then I'm like also like I'm pretty conservative from just like what people tell me but like
01:49:49
Raventhere're definitely something things that I do lean on just because I have I used to be on the other side so I can I guess like understand sure um I'm actually an anti- feminist and I my
01:50:01
Angelapolitical leanings are probably like people say it's not pragmatic but I'd rather have like a Catholic or Orthodox monarchy and then people are like well you have to bring it down to like a republic but can I can I ask about that for clarification on that when you say
01:50:12
Arsonyou're like anti-feminist are you against like the current form of like third wave it's from all the way I I don't accept that as feminism I see it
01:50:23
Ariana/Jules/Carmenas sism what way like like when women will openly be like only elevating themselves to bring and like also like hating on men that is not feminism because it's about being equal it's not about bringing men down so I wanted to
01:50:35
Angelaclarify if it's more about the the quote unquote feminazis that you're like actively against or no as in the original doctrine of basically trying to break the nuclear family of trying to break like a a society based off of
01:50:47
AngelaFaith neighborhoods Community ties basically trying to to masculinize women feminize men and tell women that you know the gender role is against them and tell men that the gender role is also against them going against biological reality from so yeah that's something
01:50:59
Arsonthat I would probably like very much understand and agree with as well okay yeah all right well on that you also said women are you said women are superior to
01:51:11
Brian Atlasmen Republicans just want to see the 1% succeed and are ignorant oh we have a chat coming in here men donated $200 Brian feel like switching to a beer
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Brian Atlasapply okay uh that's cool do you consume alcohol Brian uh I mean very rarely I really don't drink but occasionally I'll have
01:51:42
Brian Atlasuh a beer I guess but yeah I don't really drink so okay I expect that uh do you you want to expand on the whole women are superior
01:51:52
Arsonto men thing I'm curious about that we just I feel like we just have more power to us like like just think about like all the opportunities like women can get
01:52:04
Arsoninto easily to like Elevate so quickly in this world you know what I mean I wouldn't say that like getting hurt I wouldn't say women are superior I feel like we're just more intricate and not opens a lot more doors to get like the
01:52:16
Arsonsaid power does that typically in your mind or like paradigm include using SL selling your like sexuality for side
01:52:23
Arsonpower uh yes I guess so um but like at the same time I don't know I feel like do you feel like it empowers
01:52:34
Arsonyou definitely not but the results that come from it and the opportunities I've gone from having money like just having money yes money is undeniable power opportunity will literally bring you so
01:52:46
Angelamany [ __ ] opportunities yes AB can I ask you a question M do you do you think hypothetically speaking in another reality do you think that if you fall in love with a man who takes care of you who is everything that you ever wanted scratches that emotional itch gives you
01:52:58
Angelathat entire like dream basically and he's the one who financially takes care of you and you get to just be at home to be cre sounds like a unicorn that sounds like a fairy tale like imagine I won the lottery like you know what I mean like that just sounds really unrealistic
01:53:10
Angelathat's what love is it's traditionalism I would say it's more so like once again the environments that you're in it's a unicorn that's not going to happen in those Club scenes it's not going to happen with anyone who at you and goes oh yeah emotionally I can just manipulate her I can use her for this
01:53:23
Angelaand that and this it's not going to happen however it's not a far-fetched idea a lot of men desperately seek that and they're just kind of like women are just they don't want it they push it away cuz they associate those men with
01:53:36
Raventhe men that they're used to who do take advantage of them yeah every other place in the world that's the norm like and that's why men leave the country to go find that and you're saying that's like a unicorn like fairy tale dream no