TRIGGERED Demonic Blood Witch E-Girl Puts A CURSE On The Podcast?! | Dating Talk #133
Date: 2024-02-05
Duration: 6h 24m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_00TTS(audience)
SPEAKER_01Production(audience)
SPEAKER_02Ariana/Jules/Carmen(guest)
SPEAKER_03Sky(guest)
SPEAKER_04Arson(guest)
SPEAKER_05Kayla(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_07Jake(guest)
SPEAKER_08Meow(guest)
SPEAKER_09Kiki(audience)
SPEAKER_10Angela(guest)
SPEAKER_12Raven(guest)
SPEAKER_13Bri(guest)
Key Moments
00:02:41
IntroArson introduces herself; reveals her government name is actually Arson and she makes portable flamethrowers.
“my name's arson um I'm 24 is that your government name that's my government name”
00:03:58
IntroMeow introduces herself as a dog (purple Dalmatian) who lives the dog-girl lifestyle full-time.
“my name is meow like a cat but I am a dog and I'm 27 I'm from the USA and I'm a twitch live streamer”
01:39:34
Key MomentArson describes 4-year relationship with a videographer whose leg was amputated and put on backwards to function as a new knee joint.
“it was like left amputated and like put on backwards and then like the foot joint now acts as a knee joint”
01:40:20
ControversyArson recounts sex injury that sent her to the ER: used kitchen knife for blood-play on second meeting, deep laceration required ER visit, which is how they fell in love.
“we used a freaking kitchen knife and it was so dull and tried to do like a tiny cut and it wouldn't work and I just grabbed my leg and he just went once really fast”
02:03:02
Key MomentJake Australia arrives to the show, having driven through flooding rainstorms.
“good evening everybody good evening nice to meet you how you all doing Jake we're going to be leg to leg here”
02:06:00
Key MomentArson shows she is wearing diapers on-show; reveals her current boyfriend gave her a perineal tear from sex that required diapers and lidocaine jelly for a week.
“I had to wear diapers for a week and why is that so I do only fans my boyfriend and I were just practicing some things”
02:33:20
ControversyBrian challenges Meow on her dog-girl identity, asking whether a traditional man could accept a dog-girl partner and whether the lifestyle is a sexual kink.
“when you say 11 do you are you thinking about it in in your eyes or are you thinking about it in like the broader Society”
02:39:00
Key MomentSelf-ratings round begins. Meow rates herself 11/10.
“well we'll start with you and then we'll go around the table go ahead 10 um maybe like a seven eight okay closer”
04:48:07
ControversyArson pulls a syringe filled with blood from her bag on-show, claiming it is a token of her manifestation from blood rituals performed the previous night.
“there was a syringe okay gosh that's what I was just drawing it up in you just did a you did this at the table no I keep it on me as a token of my manifestation”
04:52:10
Key MomentJake warns Arson about the dangers of blood rituals and occult practices, saying she is tapping into dark spiritual energy.
“I would urge you girls to be very careful with what you she us she used to take menstrual blood also yeah you guys I'm sorry you might think it's a bit of fun you're going into something that's pretty dark”
04:55:00
Key MomentAngela explains Arson's cult/witchcraft behavior as a manifestation of emotional intensity and desire for control, comparing it to historical blood goddess worship.
“what you're calling delusional is basically you being a very emotionally intense person where you want that true love”
05:12:40
Key MomentAngela argues that Arson's blood magic and cult behavior is ultimately self-harm used to gain an illusion of control.
“drawing your own blood is a form of self harm so it's like you're ultimately hurting yourself to gain control over a situation”
05:15:40
Key MomentBody count round: Bri reveals body count of 6 (was dating from age 17-22).
“literally um I was dating someone for 5 Years From 17 to 22 so mine is only six”
05:16:10
Key MomentBody count round: Arson says she lost count and estimates somewhere between 30 and 200+.
“I lost track honestly I don't know I literally have absolutely no clue if it would be like 30 100 or over that like I have no clue”
Topics Discussed
00:00:00
Introductions and relationship status
Guests introduce themselves: name, age, location, occupation. Brian goes around the table on relationship status, demisexuality, femcel identity.
00:15:00
Alternative / subculture dating struggles
Discussion on dating within the alt/e-girl subculture. Arson describes herself as femcel. Meow discusses dog-girl lifestyle and voluntary celibacy. Panel discusses whether alt aesthetic attracts or repels healthy partners.
01:38:20
Arson's relationship history and ER incidents
Arson details 4-year relationship with videographer who became addicted to Percs and had leg amputated and reversed. ER visit from blood-play injury during their second meeting. Hooked via trauma bond.
01:55:00
Mental health, diagnosis, and medication
Raven shares she was told at 16 she would be institutionalized for life; recovered after moving out at 18. Debate on legitimacy of bipolar/BPD diagnoses. Arson acknowledges bipolar-like symptoms and credits them as creative fuel.
02:03:02
Jake Australia arrives and joins panel
Jake (Rattlesnake TV) arrives after driving through flooding storm. Brian introduces him; Jake joins the table.
02:04:14
Ivory (Ariana) pre-show notes discussion
Brian goes through Ariana's pre-show notes: exotic dancer + OnlyFans, perineal tear from sexual encounter requiring diapers for a week, basketball team history at University of Portland, ex who still requests $40 via Venmo, leaning Trump.
02:11:40
Men as demons / toxic relationship patterns
Arson describes modern dating as a scam and men as demons. Angela and Brian note pattern of Arson attracting emotionally unavailable men due to her own unresolved emotional needs.
02:21:40
Meow's dog-girl lifestyle debate
Extended discussion of Meow's dog-girl identity. Jake questions whether it is a sexual kink; Meow denies it. Angela raises cognitive dissonance between wanting a traditional man and presenting as a dog. Brian asks what breed Meow is (lavender Dalmatian).
02:27:20
Feminist and political identity round
Brian asks each guest: are you a feminist? Political leaning? Responses range from feminist/liberal (Meow) to anti-feminist/monarchy (Angela) to apolitical. Arson declines feminist label and is apolitical.
02:39:00
Physical attractiveness / self-rating round
Brian asks each guest to rate their looks 1-10. Meow rates herself 11, Bri rates 10, Arson 10, Sky 7, Raven 4, Jake 7, Brian 5. Debate on whether self-ratings are objective.
04:48:00
Arson's cult and blood rituals
Arson reveals she leads a group of like-minded women she calls a cult, focused on world liberation and domination. Monthly Airbnb meetings with spell-casting and blood pacts. Pulled a syringe from her bag on-show as a token of manifestation. Jake warns against occult practices. Angela offers psychological analysis.
05:08:20
Body count and mate value debate
Extended panel debate on whether body count affects women's value as a partner. Jake and Angela argue Chastity is a male value preference. Brian argues it is not hypocritical to desire in a partner what you don't possess.
05:15:00
Body count round
Brian goes around table asking body counts. Bri: 6. Arson/Arson-label: 30-200+ (lost count). Sky: ~9. Raven: undisclosed. Angela: undisclosed. Jake: 4. Lesie: 4. Ariana: ~30. Others declined or gave ranges.
06:18:20
Kayla's before/after style transformation
Brian shows before/after photos of Kayla from when she was homeless and kicked out vs. her current alt style. Discussion on how freedom from restrictive home led to her aesthetic expression.
Transcript
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Brium my name is Bri and I'm 26 and from Semi Valley okay occupation uh I guess model guest model OKAY like
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Brian Atlasa like guess like the hand purse you model for Guess F oh okay okay okay yeah all right cool welcome what about you my name's arson um I'm 24 is that your
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Arsongovernment name that's my government name ARS mhm no way is it well my government I don't I don't know if I function government your government life
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Arsonokay what is your government um I don't know I just how I govern my own life I feel like I don't really function in a
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Arsonlot of uh normal scenes of society so just that's my world but um and for my occupation I'm working on my own brand I
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Arsonmake uh portable flamethrowers oh um and um
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Arsonokay and other items I make like tables and like cool rolling trays and stuff but uh was there any other question that it Nick don't type that what um Age
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Brian AtlasAgain 24 okay uh Spencer why don't you grab that go ahead my name is meow I'm 27 just can you Chuck that to Spencer please your
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Meowthing hold on it's on the necklace imagine getting go ahead continue continue with your imagine if it blew up my name is meow like a cat but I am a dog and I'm 27 I'm from the
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Brian AtlasUSA and I'm a twitch live streamer your name is meow yes what was the whole thing with the dog thing meow like a cat but I am a
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Meowdog okay mhm and did you live your life as a cat as a dog were you not following no
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Brian Atlasbut meow like a cat but I am a dog okay so you live your life as a a dog yes
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Brian Atlasokay yes can you show your teeth okay and is that uh those light genetic it's a dog thing it's not genetic but um how do you uh was it put
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Meowin by a dentist or so it's like a dog thing like I'm a dog girl so they're like a part of the shtick you know they help me like tear meat and stuff
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Brian AtlasI understand thank you please do that again cool we're in for show tonight guys all right Kayla Kayla what about
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Kaylayou U my name is Kayla and I do only fans right now but I am hair school because I want to be a hair stylist age 21 21 all
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Arsonright I'm lesie I'm 20 years old from Angel's camp California and I'm a server and I do only fans on the side okay what about you uh my name is Ariana I'm also
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Ariana/Jules/Carmenfrom Angel's camp California right now I'm an exotic dancer and I do only fans age 20 sorry my name is Jules and I'm from
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Ariana/Jules/CarmenPismo Beach California 21 and my occupation is a server and only fans okay yeah Pismo Beach is that 805 mhm
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Ariana/Jules/Carmenokay all right we got another 805 rare we get another 805 person here what about you all right hi my name is Carmen I'm 24 I'm from Minnesota and I'm a
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Brian Atlastwitch streamer dog handler so and you're friends with meow do you handle meow when we feel like it oh all right good
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Skytimes what about you hi I'm Sky uh I'm 22 and I'm from Los Angeles I do only fan and I model on this side for like
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Skyfashion brands and I'm looking to start uh my own clothing
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Ravenbrand okay cool hi my name is Raven I am 22 uh I'm from Anaheim and I am former
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Ravenonly fans now I uh am a student trying to get my degree in uh Child Development all right welcome what about
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Angelayou 26 my name is Angela and I just kind of do random things where you from oh um San Francisco SF
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Brian Atlasokay and uh random things I mean Nick if you can pull it up we know that you do some you I don't know if you still do used to do very interesting ASMR videos
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Angelaare you still involved in the ASMR industry yes but I had to do another Channel just cuz it's oh that's the new channel yeah it's like the old scroll
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Brian Atlasdown a little bit Nick scroll down it so you uh scroll down a little bit stay there wait
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Brian Atlaswait so you do 1980 is Soviet girlfriend kidnaps ASMR yes that's interesting educ
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Brian AtlasBritish phology ASMR World War II physical ENT entrance medical exam with the southern accent ASMR this is very Niche extremely can you pull up the other one Nick she's got more it was
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Brian Atlasnever meant to get popular I just just something I like doing behind closed doors look at this one wait 5.2 million 1300's ad ASMR none takes care of you in
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Brian Atlasbed you have the plague wait speaking of [Laughter] which do I get a hat you you actually have to wear
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Brian Atlasthat uh we got the plague doctor thing so um all right can you anyone else put this on their face before this is going to be a whatever exclusive can we get a
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Kikilittle plague doctor ASMR here go ahead it's terminal you don't have any time left pray to God and maybe you might make it to
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Brian AtlasHeaven okay that was did uh On's in the chat if anybody got some ASMR from from that somebody click click that if you oh okay if you do you want to wear the
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Brian Atlaswhole thing the whole the whole show or maybe not maybe perhaps not I kind of look like one of those Spanish do you want to hold on to that Madison there you go enjoy okay um cool so she's got
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Brian Atlasbut you you don't do ASMR anymore no I do yeah I like it's like a project but it's just like a side hobby basically okay all right well there you go um and guys like I said we do have Jake joining us we're going to shift the chairs once
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Brian Atlashe comes he's going to be here in about hour hour and a half or so so we're going to go around the table once more what is everybody's current relationship status so you single talking stage
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Brian Atlassituationship Friends with Benefits Rel ship married polycule sex cult if you're single how long have you been single what's and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in and
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Brian Atlasit's po I mean it's it's raining pretty bad so we'll see anyways um go ahead with the relationships out of stuff um I guess I'm single but I've been in like
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Brian Atlassituationships and my longest relationship was like five years okay longest relationship five years you've had some situationships how long would
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Brian Atlasyou say you've been single probably like a year sorry a year okay one year all right I feel like I'm just too picky and I don't know I don't know if you had mentioned this in the
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Bripre-show are you celibate um one of you is celibate somebody you're the celibate one okay uh cool yeah I want to say celibate though there's this thing
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Bricalled like demisexual where like you only have like sex with people unless like you're like emotionally attached to them okay are you Demi demisexual yeah
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Brian Atlasokay cool cool um how tall are you by the way 49 okay good to know um next go ahead okay uh wait it was oh can I do
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Brian Atlastilt your strain your mic a little bit there you go uh so yeah what's your current relationship status if you're single how long have you You' been single longest relationship ever go ahead okay my relationship that stat is
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Arsonis technically single but I do identify as a fem cell and um and then my longest relationship was four years ago or four years ago was
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Arsonfour years long and that was about a year and a half ago um but basically for the whole year and a half since I broke up with them I haven't been basically like with anyone there was a couple
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Arsonlittle hookups but honestly I don't count that cuz I disassociated from it but um huh wait so just clarification so a couple hookups but don't count them
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Arsonbut those are like in the beginning of my fem cell era now I'm like fully committed to it and fully like like getting power from it do you date uh
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Brian Atlaswomen or no only straight okay okay um wait so you're a fem cell yes can we clarify what that me yeah so I mean when if you can Define that because do you
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Arsonmean like you're a female involuntarily celibate cuz some people Define fem cell differently so yeah so so in incel is like somebody that's invol involuntarily
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Arsoncibit so it's a female version and basically I say that because I think men are beautiful they're attractive I love to be around them and I think they're
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Arsontalented creative and you know just fun but as soon as you start to view them I think in a romantic sense they somehow manifest a dark energy within them and
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ArsonI'm just hella like bubbly and nice and kind and super loving I have like the biggest heart ever which is a blessing and a curse and I think once they see
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Arsonthat they either get like intimidated and or that dark energy is repelled by like love energy and so like I'm literally like man repellent closer to
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Arsonthe mic you're literally man what yes why are you man repellent oh just so many times like I've just been ghosted and just like I used to be obsessed with finding a man
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Arsonlike literally she knows every time we go out it would be like I have to find a man I have to find a rave Bay I'd be like just obsessed with men and just like that having too much energy like
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Arsonthat like men are like scared of that they're just trying to you know and then dip you know so like seeing someone that like fully wants to be like obsessed with you and just be like a super
00:13:57
Arsonpowerful Duo like just men just usually don't want that I'm like generalizing but um it just in my personal experience I've just experienced so much rejection
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Arsonthat no now I think it's fun now I think it's funny it used to like get me in my [ __ ] in my feelings and stuff but not no more like I don't know I just have felt so much happier my depression has
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Brian Atlascompletely yeed from my body I'm completely like rebranded my home self cuz my mentality has just gone so much better ever since I started going like when you say you deal with a lot of
00:14:31
Brian Atlasrejection you get rejected a lot are you talking about romantic rejection or sexual rejection um like both because they go hand in hand like and especially
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Arsonlike if you say to a man like I don't want to I don't want to do that the first time I see you maybe later on that's like an immediate dub you know and um what's a dub is that is that an l
00:14:56
Arsonno that's that's like you get dubb like no it's I'm sorry guys I listen to Pearl Jam I'm too I'm too much of a boomer for um wait
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Arsonso it's a a dub is a win no a dub is a l the dub is they ghost you yeah so literally so many times like if I'm talking to them at a party I'll literally be talking to them all night
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Arsonthey're like Rising me up I think we're it's going so well and then as soon as I say anything like oh by the way I'm not trying to do that tonight but we can totally kick it as friends it's like they'll literally leave the conversation
00:15:28
Brian Atlasstart talking to another girl and it's like so I just like I was like yeah maybe you're not trying to do that tonight as in have sexual
00:15:38
Angelaintercourse like P and the V yeah sexual intercourse okay good times mhm maybe you give them too much attention and energy I do but I think that's such a
00:15:49
Angelagood thing I I like a lot I like that but they they have to earn it from you though you just can't give it to them like I mean lot of do a lot of men do but they're typically the ones who run
00:16:02
Brian Atlasaway I don't think like be nice to them I we like the CH like the chase I can tell you we don't like the chase no no I don't want the chase no chase whole
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MeowChase ignoring just up front is it because you can't run that fast or no just it's like I don't like to play games are you not good at games well it's not really a game like
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Angelathe prop way to do it is show an Earnest interest like to show that he's genuinely interested in you that's not chasing that's just saying like I really want you and how I'm going
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Brian Atlasto prove it yeah I just skip over the [ __ ] I'd rather just skip over the ex you know the whole does she like me and then and then she's thinking does he
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Angelalike me and then there's this game playing no no it shouldn't be a game either way though like a girl shouldn't have to make you like jump through hoops in order to prove that she likes you like she should just like you from the start start I agree I agree at the same
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Brian Atlastime it has to be like mutually respectful essentially I think men shouldn't assume that women like them just cuz they're nice yeah I don't know wait it's okay um you
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Arsonyou're a fem cell um how long have you been celibate for um shoot I haven't been counting the months but maybe like the last like real like six months has
00:17:23
Brian Atlasbeen like really like when I've been start going ham with this whole identity okay well but you said that's when you started going ham with his whole identity which I mean makes me makes it
00:17:34
Arsonsound like you have some degree of choice yeah I mean if I were to meet somebody that changed my mind then I don't mind but I literally like I I I'm
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Arsonnot kidding when I'm saying every man is like repelled by me but U like it's involuntary you know every man is repelled by you uh we have a a little
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Brian Atlasthing popping off we'll have Madison fix it just stay there Nick um you say but you say you're at these parties and these guys come up to you and as soon as they find out that you're
00:18:09
Brian Atlasnot down to have sex that night they move on to another woman mhm now but when it comes to being in uh involuntarily celibate if men are
00:18:20
Brian Atlaspropositioning you and offering you sex and you're rejecting it that would suggest to me that you're voluntarily celibate if men are offering you sex and you're turning them down yeah but those those are just like
00:18:33
Arsonrandom people if I'm like like actually like like in like into somebody like that that that was just like a random conversation had at a club but like if I'm actually like into somebody I swear
00:18:45
Arsonthey're never into me too like like the last person I I just like showed any interest towards I don't know I think people like are just like really narcissistic and have really big ego so if you're not like immediately trying to
00:18:57
Arsonact like they're trying to like be all over them and like be like I don't know just feeding their ego and you actually want to talk about yourself or anything you're doing it is like a complete turn off to them and they're just like
00:19:10
Brian Atlasthey're just like used to girls being all over them you know we have a chat here from whatever fan he says fem cell usually means a woman who can't get an LTR not one who isn't sleeping around so
00:19:22
ArsonI mean you do you do uh of I'm trying to I'm I'm epically failing at it but yeah you're epically failing at it I mean are there not cuz like I only have six Subs like can you
00:19:34
Arsonthink of like can you think of one guy right now who if you texted him and you're like hey do you want to have sex I don't know I I've completely like removed the whole idea of men from my
00:19:45
Angelamind like I don't pay like it's like I don't pay any attention to them except whenever you profit off of them for only fans no I mean like I think you need to focus on yourself and build up why it is that you're confident and have value and I think that if you're if you're bombing
00:19:58
Angelaon only fans maybe you could take it as a sign to like maybe move away from the platform cuz it's going to have long-term consequences too and if you want a proper respectful relationship you're not going to find that at the
00:20:08
Arsonclubs I'm yeah I I don't look for relationships at all like that's just if somebody comes up to me you know but I'm not looking for a relationship like literally I don't think of men like at
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Arsonall anymore like I'm only focused on like like me and my girls like that's where I find my social connection from sometimes you have to be careful with kind what kind of girls you choose to to surround yourself with that's true I got
00:20:31
Arsona good family though like we're a real like literally we're a cult So like um so I don't know I just got a really good support system around me like that so okay okay well I don't think you're a fem cell but uh that's my definition
00:20:45
Angelait's like a style thing but it's not like a literal inel it's not the same yeah you're not literally that wayt truth be told I don't think women you've seen I don't think women can be
00:20:54
Meowinvoluntarily celibate because they're always desirable like biologically yeah pretty much like so do you think men can be in it absolutely yeah if they're
00:21:06
Brian Atlasbiologically desired by other women and men well I mean it comes down to your capacity to actually procure sex so and and obviously let's exclude prostitution for example uh there are men genuinely
00:21:17
Brian Atlasout there despite them making reasonable good faith efforts to get sex they just can't whereas I mean it's I mean I can't think of a scenario where a woman if she
00:21:29
Brian Atlasjust strictly wanted casual sex could not get it almost instantly very quickly you need not you need not do more as a woman than just download Tinder download
00:21:40
Angelaa dating app make yourself available you probably won't even have to take all that much initiative you can probably get laid very easily that's true but I think it's different value systems because it's like women can get any
00:21:52
Brian Atlaswoman I honestly think in any situation can get laid but it's not something that women value well that's a different that's a different question though is it do women want to have casual sex but when we're talking about a specific term
00:22:04
Brian Atlaslike someone who's involuntarily celibate I mean that has a very specific definition you are involuntarily celibate so despite your efforts to procure sex you're not able to get it I think it's rather shortsighted to
00:22:17
Meowspecify that it's only a men issue because even in the intro you specified if you're a girl you can DM the podcast if you want to come on I feel as though men aren't given as many opportunities to be like social and to like meet a lot of people that are on similar
00:22:29
Meowwavelengths as they are and so you're just arguing my point well well what so what I'm saying is I I think but you're saying that only you think only men can be involuntarily celebrate and I think women can also shut themselves away and
00:22:41
Meowbe very much like in their own head thinking okay Everyone likes me I'm not the beauty standard for men it's oh I don't have muscles and I'm I'm not over six feet and for women it's okay I don't have triple d's and I don't have a tiny waist like it can be I feel like it can
00:22:54
Meowbe very fair on either side well I mean we've oh sorry go ahead continue with your point I was going to say I think that she is describing a lot of voluntarily C voluntary celibacy because that's how I operate too I'm voluntarily
00:23:05
Brian Atlascelibate in my life but we're talking about involuntarily Cate and I mean you mentioned like for example physical appearance I mean we've had women on the show who no offense to them but just as a statement of fact we're for example
00:23:16
Brian Atlasmorbidly obese and you know it occurs to me that their looks equivalent you put them in the male body with the same characteristics uh we we have women for
00:23:27
Brian Atlasexample right a woman could be how do I how do I want to best frame this ugly as [ __ ] like even really really unattractive
00:23:38
Arsonwomen can be [ __ ] mhm but a really unattractive like morbidly obese man can't be a [ __ ] but who's to say that a morbidly obese woman could be a [ __ ] he
00:23:49
Brian Atlascan be a [ __ ] yeah girl I don't know I mean well for example we've we've had women on the show who who who I mean Nick if you're able to pull it up the
00:24:00
Brian Atlasgirl who was uh who wore the pink um she was um not bring oh you have it
00:24:09
Brian Atlasone sec I mean uh she's a little bit overweight and uh she was saying how she could sleep with five men in a day her male looks equivalent like to be
00:24:21
Brian Atlasable to sleep with five women in a day you're that puts you in the realm of like aist celebrity musician actor professional athlete or you're just exceptionally good-looking or it puts
00:24:33
Meowyou into a price bracket of how much you make and you can pay for those Services also yeah but I'm excluding I'm excluding prostitution from this conversation what about only fans what do you mean
00:24:44
Meowbecause because plenty of men plenty of men uh have favorite models that they like to fund their lives specifically and for uh some only fans models they are willing to exchange more intimate
00:24:56
Meowinteractions with users than others for some people they so prostitution yeah I'm excluding that from I'm excluding that from the conversation well I wasn't I wasn't sure if you identified only fans as
00:25:07
Brian Atlasprostitution well that's what no you're saying hold on but you're saying you're you're talking about H having more intimate connection so I think what you were trying to arrive at is what if the
00:25:20
Meowwomen on only fans offer up sexual Services AKA sex for money yeah well cuz he's talking about physical sex not like like like just chances in
00:25:30
Angelageneral cuz from CU from what I I maybe I'm misunderstanding your point then well that's the thing is that like there's a story with Kirk Cain where he ended up basically having intimacy with
00:25:42
Angelaa woman who was mentally disabled physically disabled overweight and smelled and the girl apparently had slept with a bunch of guys in the town including some family members so it's
00:25:53
Angelalike a woman inherently is always going to be used by men who are seeking that that out but men on the other hand will never be used in that respect at least not usually I wonder if it's I wonder if it's connected to women being inherently
00:26:05
Meowseen as like a biological sexual object whereas men are more conquer ship based more protector more Warrior and I wonder if those biological like expectations those are biological realities yeah like women are the receptical and men are the
00:26:17
Meowones who basically I'm not sure if I would categorize women as receptical I mean I'm not going to co I'm not going to coign that statement but makes sense then that there's more men that are uh like finding you know involuntary
00:26:29
Meowcelibacy to be their way of how they operate if that is the case if we live in a society to where men are not seen as sexual beings and women are right well women aren't supposed to be seen as sexual beings we're supposed to have agency and Womanhood and femininity but
00:26:42
Angelaunfortunately with the commercial society that we live in it's like we've been reduced down to these sexual objects whether it's like boobs and butts and all of that jazz there's no sense of respect or dignity associated with Womanhood anymore because of in my
00:26:55
Ravenopinion the things like the sexual Revolution basically removing our agency from us but that's women's own doing like kind of women did that to themselves like over like the whole
00:27:06
Meowfeminism thing well part of it doing it to ourselves is for money because it's an easy way to make money so that's why that's why I mentioned money CU I feel like money is always going to be a topic when talking about those interactions
00:27:18
Meowand as far as like people's ability to get sex because I I have I have listened to self-proclaimed incel men speak about how they've paid for sex before but they don't count that as a real experience because of the way that they view it
00:27:30
Brian Atlasthat's yeah that's what they say yeah why I mean because I mean it what I think incel men want is they want uh sex
00:27:40
Brian Atlasthat does not invol that's not transactional I would hope now I mean we could certainly have a deeper conversation of well to some degree is romantic everything transac is everything transactional that's that's
00:27:52
Ravenon another level it's not organic I guess is what he's trying to say yeah like um like like more so like organic sex like you meet somebody you click and then you're like oh hey let's go you
00:28:04
Meowknow hook up that's I think more so what he's talking about I I wonder I wonder if that comes down to you know base levels of testosterone versus estrogen levels and and I just wonder if it's not as like social as like a social
00:28:14
Meowcontagion issue or if it's more like genuine just like our bi our biology our our biology kind of catching up to us a little bit in the social state that we're at right no I agree because you actually like like how you said that like men don't have a lot of like they
00:28:26
Ravenhave a lot of social experiences they can go out they can go out and meet a woman I was literally just in Japan last week and it was like the cutest thing I was my feet were dying so I was sitting
00:28:37
Ravenand like in this little corner and there were these two two school girls and this uh like they're high schoolers right High School guy comes up puts the arm right like by her head goes like hey I
00:28:50
Ravensaw you you were just really cute and you know you know what what you doing later right and she was just giggling like oh oh my gosh like this is her like fairy tale tale moment and when he like
00:29:01
Ravengave gave him her number when he left she was like giggling with her friend like oh my gosh that was so great and I'm like like things are so different in this culture and like men could just go up to women in other countries and be
00:29:15
Meowlike oh my gosh I really like you you're really beautiful like take do that all the time like they do but they're often rejected they they they open up their phone and they hand you their Instagram with it open for you to type in your username that's what they do I feel like it's stupid like if someone comes up to
00:29:28
Arsonme on the street I'm always hell friendly I don't give a [ __ ] if it's a homeless man like or whatever whoever it is like I'm going to always meet them with positive energy like I think cat calling getting upset by that is literally so dumb here's here's the
00:29:39
Brian Atlasreality right okay most women can sleep with most men most men cannot sleep with most women a woman can I mean she would have to I would even argue if she was
00:29:50
Arsonseriously disabled or disfigured she could still procure sex rather easily um so I mean also I'm delusional and very like men trigger manic episodes in me so
00:30:02
Arsonlike I almost turn into a crazy person if they try to talk to me but so that's usually what repels them I mean but here's the thing if you were to download Tinder yeah M just swipe swipe on even
00:30:15
Brian Atlasthe dudes that you just think are physically attractive or if you even were to go out to a nightclub or a bar or a party and you just you say men approach you I tried hinder Tinder I tried hinge literally I get like zero
00:30:27
Arsonmatches and if I try to meet up with them like stop the cap I'm bro I'm not CA literally I complain about this all time dude do you not hear me complain about that stuff all the time yes you do you do complain about that stuff all the time okay well so let me ask you a
00:30:40
Brian Atlasquestion what first off how do you categorize your your look like are you a scene girl are you what like are you uh e girl what's your how do you uh Define
00:30:50
Arsonyour aesthetic like Lolita Harajuku scene core um Ser R core like anything anything that into a core Cottage core like okay
00:31:00
ArsonMH I mean are you are you seeking out men that fall into like a very Niche oh for sure like basically I I don't know for some reason energy attraction like I
00:31:11
Arsononly attract clinically insane men so that might be why like it's just doesn't work and they don't want to [ __ ] the insane dudes don't even want to [ __ ] what you're saying they don't want F many girls on
00:31:23
Arsonthem they the insane dudes have too many too too many yes lady friends like SoundCloud rappers mhm that's your type of Sounder rappers necess cuz I'm not
00:31:34
Arsoninto like the hip-hop rap scene as much but definitely like I don't know if you know what hyperpop is or like dance core and like th those specific kind I know
00:31:42
Brian Atlas90s grunge music that's the extent of my Pearl Jam Stone Temple Pilots yeah that's it maybe some like early late
00:31:53
Arson'90s pop punk Blink 182 it's just like music that so fast it's almost like epilepsy inducing sounds like a okay
00:32:02
Brian Atlascool uh in any case I'm pretty sure if you if you hopped on the dating app and uh I'm pretty confident you'd you know what we should do this as an experiment
00:32:13
Brian Atlasum let's actually Grant her access to her phone do you have Tinder on your phone so you're going to be um maybe I have Hing I seen hinge on your phone sad it's sad a hell we'll give you while
00:32:26
Brian Atlaswe're having everyone else do their uh relationship status we're giving you 10 minutes to access do you have Tinder I show you all these dumb conversations I nowh okay you don't have to show them
00:32:36
Brian Atlasbut but I want you to get on hinge and I want you to yes oh wait but I think you have limited likes right I I haven't been on dating
00:32:46
Arsonapps in a while uh well the likes come to you right okay all your matches be like what are you doing tonight no cuz literally look I always get no reply I
00:32:55
Arsonstay in West LA area no no no reply ever again like I said you're not a horse and then he never responded to me and then wait can I see your photo let me see I'mma get her a man tonight she said
00:33:08
Brian Atlasyou're I'm get her a man tonight okay let's see uh hold on Brian's living vicariously I mean you have 50 plus
00:33:17
Arsonmatches in the queue I think right yeah you got I get matches but as soon as I DM them they never respond I've literally like only met up with like two people on there in the in
00:33:29
Arsonthe year and a half and it was just like a horrible experience DM them first yes I always DM them first you have to let them DM you first yes okay yes drinks
00:33:39
Brian Atlassmokes sometimes weed sometimes drugs sometimes atheists what's your bio atheist liberal long-term relationship open to short you are wholesome and have a big heart that's one of your prompts
00:33:52
Brian Atlastogether we could do arts and crafts and talk about our favorite things uh and then you're also taking a picture in a graveyard cool um bro you could definitely get some
00:34:02
Brian Atlaslike where do you live La yeah bro there's all kinds of like pretentious art people there you're good good you can I got you women like I got you I'm
00:34:13
Brian Atlasgoing get you a man tonight okay I'm going get you you're invol you're you claim to be involuntarily celibate we must correct this we're going to change it I got you okay we're going to get you
00:34:25
Angelanot a good okay if somebody I like bro I'd be down honestly you just have to let try harder though girl but I just you shouldn't be the one trying I think it's like you have to be
00:34:37
Arsonthe one where it's like they see the beauty inside of you and then you end up reciprocating that doesn't exist it does beautiful what you just said I don't know I I haven't seen things don't look for seen only demons I don't know but
00:34:49
Angelauntil that point it's like it's like you're only going to track the same I ask the chat chat do do you think she's actually a fem cell do you think she can she's actually a fem cell guys I I am I
00:35:00
Brian Atlasam you know what why don't we we should also do another experiment we'll have you come back in a month we'll do like just just I don't even think it's your physical appearance that's like in terms
00:35:11
Angelaof your aesthetic your look uh cuz I mean guys are guys like the kind of you know I don't would say I would say with like the Lita stuff and the little girl stuff I would say like let's not go there well it's like I think it just gives off the message of like I'm still
00:35:23
Angelakind of processing memories I think that you're a very beautiful girl I think that when you kind of have this more elegant sort of adult sort of look to you then you're going to attract men who are actually going to take care of
00:35:35
Arsonyou and actually like that's they B me like if I can't have a conversation where I'm talking about the universe energies and like all sorts of crazy deep stuff you know like if you can't if you can't conversate with me like that then it's literally like I don't know
00:35:48
Arsonthat I feel like I'm getting judged at that well not even you want to talk about aliens you say not aliens necessarily not aliens I'm trying to talk about like Evolution the beauty of how we're all
00:36:00
Arsonhere like dude we're made up like a billion cells and like just born in these beautiful bodies and like nobody realizes how vast and how rare and how great it is everybody's like trying to
00:36:11
Brian Atlasbe depressed and on their emo stuff you know like I don't know like you know what we're going to do Madison back here she offers she's we're going to transform you just for a month just to see if we can get you out of your
00:36:22
Brian Atlasinvoluntary involuntary celibacy just uh a week I doubt it it's honest we're going to turn you into like a a TR life
00:36:33
TTSfor like a week donated hold on just a sec on sorry I am late lots to do tonight have to ask what m/ mood altering substances are the
00:36:44
TTSyoung ladies on this panel using or have recently used is everybody sober here I hope yeah yeah smoked weed Kayla you smoke some
00:36:55
Arsonweed wrong it's okay anybody what about you guys did you guys are we allowed to say what did what did you I mean I'm a
00:37:04
Arsonhorse so a horse yes I I don't get it what you're you're on horse
00:37:15
Meowtranquilizer currently well we did it last night but still told you so I've been happily practicing sobriety lately and I think it's been great like are you
00:37:25
Brian Atlasgetting a contact eye good I'm sorry are you getting a contact high from a what contact high what contact contact high hello I bro I could not understand what
00:37:36
Meowyou were saying she smoked some weed bro I'm scared she smoked weed she's doing horse tranquilizer and I'm trying to be sober what is going on here where am I it's good for you they have clinics for
00:37:47
Skyit like for animals no they have they's old Netflix show about how this girl got diag something and she did
00:38:00
SkyAET I forgot what it was called but yeah it helps her with her treatments and stuff there are some drugs glucogenic
00:38:08
RavenNick come on bro what the what the okay there are some drugs that do have very good okay so I used to study psychology cool drugs are I don't think
00:38:20
Brian Atlaswe're going to talk about drugs I'm sorry all right here well we if we want we can come back to the F something um let's continue on uh current relationship status longest relationship
00:38:31
Meowuh and if you're single how long have you been single I'm currently single and my longest relationship is 5 years and I'm currently voluntarily
00:38:41
Meowcelibate um and I think it's going great I I really enjoy the quality of friendships and relationships I'm able to procure while not having sex or
00:38:53
Meowanything sexual on the table a big part of my entire lifestyle Styles play and for me playing is very much in the nature of fun it is in the nature of throw me a ball I want to fetch it some people can't do that without getting a
00:39:05
Meowheart on which is really freaking bizarre um but it uh it's been a really lovely thing to be able to be in those situations where men interact with me they admit hey I want something with you
00:39:17
Meowand whenever I say no they say oh that's okay because in my experience men typically aren't able to separate those emotions if they've already ran it up so if somebody's been fantasizing about you for a month and they finally you know tell you about it and you're like I
00:39:31
Meowdon't see you that way a lot of times they can't still be your friend and I don't think that's a wrong thing I don't think it's you know Screw men for not wanting to be my friend it's like okay you're just not my cup of tea you're not my cut of of uh iron you know wait so
00:39:43
Brian Atlashold on with the whole you you invite men to engage in your you want to role
00:39:50
Meowplay as a dog but you object to them I don't don't invite anyone into anything so what I said is I enjoy a lifestyle of
00:40:00
Meowplay where I can be casually like playful with my friends to me you know if you want if you bite me on the on the arm I'm not going to take that sexually some people come from getting bitten on
00:40:12
Meowthe arm do you understand like I I I separate sex from a lot of I feel like what could be misconstrued as sexually natured things but recognizing that and recognizing how that can unintentionally lead men and women on because I am
00:40:24
Meowbisexual I've recognized that pattern in my myself and I've been celibate for going on a year now and it's been really incredible okay there you have it
00:40:32
Kaylavoluntary celibacy for one year okay what about you kayb um I'm in a relationship it's been been together for
00:40:42
Brian Atlasalmost 3 years all right nice congratulations for you three years all right and is this your longest relationship yeah yes is it is it a man yes
00:40:55
Arsonokay what about you I am I don't know if I'd say I'm single I'm kind of in a little bit of a situationship do I don't really know
00:41:06
Brian Atlascouldn't tell you to be honest you probably could tell us um probably I think I don't know it's complicated okay you're it's comp complicated SL situationship are you only seeing one person or are there multiple people in
00:41:19
Arsonthe picture just one as like that talking stage or situationship what are you guys is monogamous um yeah okay how long have you been seeing him H probably like over
00:41:32
Brian Atlasa year but we like I don't know you're in an over a year situationship it's okay because have you guys at any point have you guys been uh like boyfriend girlfriend no but there's like been multiple points in time where like we
00:41:44
Arsonstop talking so it's like if we're already having these issues where we stop talking or like what what's the rush of making a relationship if you're already having issues you know okay but so you've been seeing him for about a
00:41:56
Brian Atlasyear yeah okay is that is that your longest relationship no okay is he seeing other women I'm not sure I don't really care enough to check but you've only been seeing so for the year you've been seeing him you've only been involved
00:42:09
Arsonwith him or have there been other guys hung out with other guys like I've seen other guys but I'm not sleeping with other guys and do you want it to become a relationship with yeah eventually but
00:42:21
Brian Atlasit's just so much harder than that is it long distance he lives about 2 hours away from where I'm at where do you live again Angel's camp California okay um so one
00:42:31
Brian Atlasyear okay uh I mean has he made made any overtures that he's desirous of a long-term relationship with you yes we're having problems because of it right now actually oh he wants he wants
00:42:43
Arsonand you don't he does well it's just so much harder for me I just like before I like got with him there was a um I was in a relationship for 5 years very toxic very abusive manipulative so it's kind
00:42:55
Arsonof hard what did you do to abuse your ex oh no no no not not me it was the it was the other guy okay all right yeah but okay so it's kind of hard for me to be like oh yeah I trust you like
00:43:07
Arsonoh no like I definitely doubled back a couple times like I'm going to get my lick back like you done did me dirty you done did me dirty too many times like he did you dirty what did he
00:43:18
Arsondo I don't even want to against the extent of it did you slash his tires no he didn't have a car to slash tires oh did you burn down his parents house where he lived he didn't have a parents
00:43:30
Brian Atlashouse where he lived wow that's heed me actually he actually lived with me I don't know where was going I you he he did okay did you rip up his
00:43:41
Brian Atlasclothes I did burn a couple of them you burned some of his clothes burn one of you arson over here should coll have you ever been charged with arson
00:43:55
Arsonum my ex did light um a Bible on fire in in front of a church the Bible yeah it was part of music video but but so he did
00:44:07
Arsonget in trouble with the cops before for but not myself okay um so what else did you do it was just very like I said abusive very like physically
00:44:20
Arsonabusive so it's kind of hard for me to like want to give myself to another man like that regardless of how I've known you or anything like that have you gotten therapy for that to like I have not I Thug it out I definitely recommend
00:44:33
Arsontherapy if you want to like move on and have a good life no I have moved on I definitely have like yeah but you can't trust people so you haven't moved on well can you really trust anyone though yes 100% I feel like I cannot trust anyone you should be able to if you
00:44:45
Arsonnever been able to trust anyone in my life need therapy everyone in my life do you trust your boyfriend of three years yes see she trusts somebody okay but I feel like you have to always have like that little bit a cautiousness where you're like oh but this could happen at
00:44:58
Angelaany point in time like what if like there's always that what if I think maybe it's because you don't know what signs were in him that you missed the first time around so now it's like you don't know what to look for so you're I do now I def after 5 years I definitely
00:45:10
Arsonknow what to look for now but for a while yeah no I definitely did not I a building phas just to what's going on I've told myself that like a million times like oh I know the signs and then it like keeps I know the
00:45:23
Arsonsigns because I've literally like come across like the same men in different bodies and be like yeah no I've already seen this like I'm not dealing with it you could oh hold on 7 setian
00:45:33
TTS777 sextilion 777 quintilian 777 quadrillions 777 tr777
00:45:49
TTSb777 donated $200 my sprinkler goes like this are the real
00:46:01
Arsonvital comes back like period thank you appreciate that was pretty violent okay honestly that was
00:46:10
Brian Atlasworth it for $200 that was good um okay so it's currently complicated currently a situationship yeah uh I'd say maybe what you need is just like a healthy
00:46:22
Arsonideal so that way anything that falls short of it you kind of know there there's something wrong here and I can spot it from a mile away yeah it's definitely it's just like one of those situations where it's like I know he's a good guy like I've known him for this long like I see that he's very much
00:46:34
Angeladifferent but it's like still something in me it's just like everyone everyone has good and bad in them it's just kind of like you can see the good but also it's like like the intentions see what intentions there are yeah how does he treat his mom lights back there if you
00:46:47
Arsoncan turn his mom actually is not part of his life I mean I guess that could play a big factor the way they treat their mom is like a very good way to tell like how they'll treat you uh she's I mean I
00:47:00
Arsonguess she's not really innocent though and the part that he plays towards her can I ask do you have like like are your parents together do you have a role model for a healthy relationship my parents are not together they have not
00:47:11
Arsonbeen together since I was probably like 6 seven years old so and they were constantly fighting so I definitely never really had that picture perfect family growing up to like go off of like
00:47:21
Arsonmy my perspective of love and like how everything we that song Love the Way You Lie by Eminem yeah that's 100% my perspective of Love Like that's what I grew up around so it's kind of what I'm
00:47:33
Angelaused to what I what I feel like I deserve if that makes sense like love isn't supposed to be a feeling hence the whole like you know you always kind of want something that's interesting or spicy it's like in that case it's like you're more addicted to the chaos than you are to the actual definition of love
00:47:46
Arsonwhich is supposed to be upbuilding and good for you where you grow as a person definitely and that's kind of what you have to be ready for when you're in a relationship your relationship status go ahead um I currently have a boyfriend friend we've known each other for five or 6 years but we've officially been
00:47:58
Brian Atlasdating for like a couple months okay couple what do you think like 6 months like two three two two months but you literally a couple you've so was he in
00:48:08
Arsonthe friend zone or you were proper friends um he was just older at the time when he met
00:48:15
Arsonme I was like 17 he was like 22 23 um and we just lost contact oh my God
00:48:26
Brian Atlasokay anyway so we lost contact for a while I technically if he was older he didn't he didn't become less older like you guys you guys both aged at the exact
00:48:37
Arsonsame wait what did I say what did I say well you said he was older well he was older than me at the time is what I was saying he's just as old he the differential is well okay I was 17 and
00:48:48
Arsonlike he was 18 so like respectfully he turned me down like he actually came up to me we were working out at the gym and he came up to me and I told him that I was 17 and he said never
00:48:59
Meowmind good it's a little uh okay respectable I think that is respectful very much there's no harm in asking by shaming men for asking in general as if they're supposed to know that somebody is of a certain age like I feel like
00:49:12
Meowthat's setting them up for failure like allow them to be like oh okay word and walk away definitely better in a Cas like that's not what I'm arguing though well it's more the fact that he still
00:49:23
Brian Atlaspursued that like if if a if it turned out that the girl was 17 and like you don't like oh I'm going to wait
00:49:31
Brian Atlasuntil she's 18 no it's like eh that no not pursuing that at all I don't know it's just I feel that there's a little bit uh I think there's a little bit of
00:49:43
Arsonimpropriety yeah if there's a anyways um I mean I get what you're saying because there's a huge difference between um the situation with him because I was 17 at the time and he told me never mind like
00:49:53
Arsonfew years later we reconnected on face faceb and um one thing left after the other and now we're together but that's completely different than my sugar daddy
00:50:03
Arsonwho's 80 damn and he's been a family friend since I was like 10 so that's a difference that's a difference going send the asteroid on that one um H we have another
00:50:18
Brian Atlasperson sugar D you have a sugar daddy yeah he's in his do you have multiple sugar daddies um I only have one right now but I used have m8y old yeah he's he's 80 okay um what how does that look
00:50:30
Brian Atlaslike your that would be my question do you meet up with old oh you meant like that no do you some people do like dinners and [ __ ] do you do that or so far okay
00:50:42
Arsondon't make fun of me cuz he doesn't really know how to use like cash app or like PayPal or anything he sends me money in the mail girl mail you are so likely to get that stolen I just want to say that those
00:50:54
Arsonhe's only done it he's only done it like a yes cash in like pre-roll joints like does he pay you aots is crazy um he pays me I don't really like to talk about numbers period I just don't but um
00:51:06
Meowyeah he's paid me like a good amount for me to like survive he mails you cash mhm that's can I ask whenever the intera like your the sugaring started what how old you were oh the sugaring like in
00:51:18
Arsongeneral yeah for when did this dynamic between you and family friend oh this was like a month ago like it just started PR now like I've had another sugar daddy I had one like a year ago
00:51:28
Brian Atlasfor about a year and so what what does he get in return just like conversation do you send conversation and a lot of stalling stalling okay yeah do you feel
00:51:39
Angelalike it might impact like the way you perceive men if no 100% no how did that start like I'm curious like like your
00:51:48
Arsonrelationship with him with him yeah um I don't know he was just a family friend like I never like hung out with him oneon-one spoke to him whatever like he's just like a family friend to my
00:52:00
Skyparents but did he contact you to your parents how the family friend how did change yeah how did it friend go from family friend to Sugar see I don't want to like out him cuz I don't want anybody
00:52:11
Brian Atlaslike that I know to find him cuz it was on social media we're just well you got you got an 80-year-old sugar daddy congrats youst booty P what about you did you post booty pics um no a okay uh
00:52:23
Ariana/Jules/Carmenrelationship status what about you well I'm single congrats um yeah thank you so much oh gosh uh my longest relationship was probably about a year yeah and then
00:52:34
Ariana/Jules/CarmenI was single for two years and then I gave this guy a chance just [ __ ] me over and now I'm single recently yeah this is recent um yeah now I'm single
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Ariana/Jules/Carmenand I'm on my celibate Journey now too like I am anti-men for a long time anti wait who else you're you're anti-men okay no romantically or
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Brian Atlasromantically also just in in general too no in general like hang out I have you date women no okay um is anybody else here anti-men I mean you we know you men
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Meowanti-men romantically I hate men sometimes no she hates men sometimes I hate men all the time be honest I'm kind of a misogynist like I don't really like
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Meowgirls I don't like women I also don't like I just don't like can I say that being very bisexual women piss me the [ __ ] off like all the time piss
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Brian Atlasme romantically women are extremely difficult I feel like guys guys guys one at a time please and please just speak into the mic go ahead I feel like two women at the same time like how how does
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Arsona relationship like that work you guys like piss each other off like I'm the type of person like it's going to get domestic in here like I might take off on you how does that how does that work how do you manage that how does that
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Ravenwork when your periods link up after a while former lesbian former lesbian I'm a Christian I saw Christ um you know I saw Christ like not even to be cringe
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Ravenbut like that was literally like it literally is that way like um you have a dream you like see him no like it was literally like it was like it was like a lot like it was a lot of yeah um like
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Ravencan you explain more like I'm curious um like how I kind of came to that like so you were and then you became Christian
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Ravenyou change your mind on it wasn't like a visual like physical experience of like seeing him with your eyes it was more like I prayed constantly for years um on
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Ravenif God if this is what you if you're okay with this then tell me yeah and if not then I will literally change my ways but I need you to tell me because every relationship I was getting into just got
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Ravenme into deeper and deeper so you kept like getting signs yeah I kept getting signs and then those signs you know LED me to be like yeah no you shouldn't don't don't keep doing this yeah well good on you for having faith in that
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Raventhank you but yeah uh lesbian relationships are extremely toxic I still have a lot of friends who are lesbian and it's like constant like in the hospital you just
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Ravengot beat up like broke a bottle over your head you're in the club you get into a bar fight like it's like oh my gosh um so my my grandma right she's 60
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Ravenshe has a friend who's like a long-term long-term lesbian 60 years old as well like around there um she her and her spouse are like constantly like you're
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Arsongeneralizing cuz like well that's just my experience that's literally just my experience I'm taking that and I'm putting it into my mom and her girlfriend's relationship and is 100 the same it is constant bickering it is constant violence could be like that
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Angelawith any relationship 100% lesbian relationships have a 47 to 49% rate of domestic violence and sexual like violence as just like half of all marriages end it's
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AngelaMar if you factor in the fact that they got married outside of the church meaning that they don't have that long-term traditional marriage vows meaning that they got married for some second or third reason as in like for
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Arsontax reasons or for some like reason that isn't basic I'm just saying like like like I feel like it might be like not necessarily one breaks up more than the other you statically yes it
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Arsonstatistically well it's cuz it's too women are always like that's who does a poll like like probably people that like are I don't know you know what I'm saying that's like specifically group of
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Angelabut typically if you examine women who identify as lesbians they usually have issues with their parents particularly their fathers so what they're looking for in another woman is basically the stability that they can't really seem to find in men so they try to seek that