CAT FIGHT! Heated Debate About CHEATING?! | Dating Talk #87

Date: 2023-07-26

Duration: 5h 38m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EEileena (DT87)>

AAudi Drip (DT87)>

AAndrea (DT87)>

AAndaza (DT87)>

RRosanna Pfeiffer >

MMallory (DT87)>

MMia Lynn (DT87)>

MMichael Sartain >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_03Rosanna Pfeiffer(guest)

SPEAKER_04Eileena(guest)

SPEAKER_05Mia Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andaza(guest)

SPEAKER_07Michael Sartain(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS/Video Audio(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_11Audi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mallory(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMichael Sartain introduces himself: retired USAF captain, MOA founder, 45yo, hosts Michael Sartain Podcast and Access Vegas

“"my name is Michael Sartain I'm a retired US Air Force captain of little KC-135 uh as a navigator and I did special ops and I did counter Intel for a while and now I'm the founder of the men of action mentoring program... I'm 45"”

QuoteAndaza reveals she walked in on her boyfriend cheating and physically fought him and the other woman

“"There we go walked in on it walked in on it yeah... caught shorty on the corner so... he thought you're gonna be gone for a little while... yeah I ended up whooping her ass and then I moved to LA"”

QuoteMichael Sartain explains that removing birth control implant dramatically improved his girlfriend's personality and mood

“"she had the birth control thing taken out... totally different bro totally... the birth control thing makes bro... it's just so... it's a night and day"”

QuoteTikTok "bare minimum" dating standards video played — woman lists: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything

“"this is the bare minimum for dating me number one asked me to be his girlfriend... number two buys me flowers often... picks me up and drops me off... offers to pay for every activity and doesn't expect me to do 50 50"”

ControversyEileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating coach, calling her a "26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice with two men in her bed"

“"This is all coming from a 26 year old relationship Tick Tock Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"”

ControversyMia Lynn tells Eileena "I don't care" and defends her right to give dating advice based on relationship experience

“"in my bed did you not listen to me say that I'm platonic... listen to me say I don't care"”

QuoteMichael Sartain presents stat that average US male height is 5'9" and only ~14% of men are over 6ft

“"the number of men the percentage of men over six feet tall... four percent... it's crazy... five nine yeah... the number of men... 14 percent over six feet tall"”

QuoteBrian asks panel to rate their physical looks 1-10; Eileena and Audi declare themselves 10+/off-the-scale

“"ask everyone to write their looks on a schedule of one to ten so you can't be like all my my personality I'm going to I'm a 10 out of 10... they'd be calling me Alicia Keys on there"”

QuoteBrian explains he sometimes does not pay on first dates as a screening tool and principle (does not want to feel like a sucker)

“"there are women that will string you along... keep securing attention... you'll pay for her... I'm not going to pay so when someone's your girlfriend then I will fall into... if you're committed to me then I will"”

QuoteMia Lynn reveals her body count is 11 (including kissing and penetrative sex)

“"I include like people in my body count that have like kissed penetrative sex 11 people 11 people"”

QuoteMia Lynn recounts a date with a diplomat's son who used his dead father as a reason to sleep with her

“"he was like um you want to go back to my place and I was like uh no I think I'm just gonna go home and he was like but my dad but my dad died and I was like oh... that is like the last thing you want to say to a girl"”

QuoteMichael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA — Babes and Toyland for troops overseas

“"I'm hosting a charity event in Los Angeles on Thursday it's a babes and Toyland we do one every year for animal rescue... this one's gonna be for troops overseas"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens show, plugs streamlabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit/clips channels. Guests introduce themselves in order: Eileena (bartender, 24), Audi/Audi Drip (fashion designer/musician, 22), Andrea (content creator/OnlyFans, 31, Quebec Canada), Andaza (hair model/social media, 23), Rosanna Pfeiffer (nurse practitioner/model/actress, 34, Buffalo NY), Mallory (content creator/marketing, 27), Mia Lynn (internet personality/PhD student, 26, Brooklyn), Kelly (student/personal stylist, 21), Michael Sartain (MOA founder/USAF/podcast host, 45), Priya (ASU student/equestrian, 22).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Eileena: single, never had official relationship, one 4yr situationship. Audi: single since 18, career-focused, had a poly house situation at 19. Andrea: divorced after 2-year marriage, happy being single. Andaza: newly single (2 months) after cheating incident — walked in on boyfriend, fought the other woman. Rosanna: 2-year relationship. Mallory: in relationship with her Tinder match's best friend. Mia Lynn: dating two men platonically/non-exclusively (one Catholic church guy, one 22yo from Williamsburg/AZ). Kelly: 1yr 7mo relationship. Michael Sartain: relationship since Oct prior year (girlfriend 24 years younger, 21yo; met at Mexico bikini pageant). Priya: single ~1 year, on show ~3-4 weeks prior, no new developments.

Andaza's Cheating Story & Catfight Debate

Andaza tells story of walking in on boyfriend with another woman. Debate erupts over whether to fight the other woman (Andaza: yes, did it) vs. walking away (Mia Lynn, Mallory: walk away). Eileena defends fighting. Mia Lynn argues any physical violence is domestic violence. Show of hands on responses to catching partner cheating. Discussion of Texas historical law on killing spouse and lover in flagrante. Rosanna: walked in at 17 drunk at a club and reacted physically; says she would not do that now. Brian moderates, discusses provocation limits.

TikTok "Bare Minimum" Dating Standards Video Reaction

Brian plays a TikTok video of a woman listing her bare minimum dating standards: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything, no 50/50. Panel debates whether standards are too high. Eileena: not too high. Audi: standards OK but you can't cherry-pick traits. Andrea: agrees with some (not flowers, not driving). Michael Sartain: attraction precedes standards; all items are "comfort-building" not attraction-building. Follow-up clip shows what she brings to table ("peace and energy"). Discussion of what men bring vs. what women bring.

Eileena vs. Mia Lynn Clash — Dating Coach Credentials

Eileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating advisor for men given she is not in a relationship herself ("26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"). Mia Lynn defends herself: she has been in relationships, has grown through them, and advises from experience. Kelly also questioned Mia earlier at ~0:32. Mia tells Eileena to not interrupt her. Tension between them continues through episode.

Jonah Hill / Relationship Boundaries Debate

Discussion of Jonah Hill's leaked texts to ex-girlfriend about her surfing in bikini. Michael Sartain defends Hill's right to set boundaries and argues the ex was the real wrongdoer (released messages after Hill had a baby with someone else). Brian: Hill was manipulative. Debate on whether surfers wear bikinis (Brian/Sartain disagree). Discussion of whether a partner can reasonably ask the other not to post in bikinis. Mia Lynn: boundaries are OK as long as not controlling.

Red Pill / Evolutionary Psychology Discussion

Michael Sartain leads extended discussion on Dr. David Buss's 37-culture evolutionary psychology study. Topics: hypergamy, body count and pair bonding, high status vs. low status men (Sartain: they are functionally different species), why men cheat (high status men have options), women's attraction vs. comfort distinction, oxytocin bonding and body count effects on women, naturalistic fallacy (what is natural ≠ what is good). Mia Lynn and Rosanna contribute neuroscience on oxytocin/vasopressin. Discussion of Genghis Khan Y chromosome, women waiting at the finish line (Rich Cooper quote).

Women's Standards & the "Delusion Gap"

Michael Sartain presents statistics: top 1% income is ~$615K/year (most women guessed $150-400K); average US male height is 5'9"; only ~14% of men are over 6 feet tall. Discussion of women's unrealistic standards driven by exposure to high-status men (VIP hosts, bottle service). Discussion of birth control (hormonal implant removal improving girlfriend's personality). Priya and Priya discuss natural cycles tracking (fertility awareness method). Brian and Sartain discuss never paying for girls at clubs who can't afford high dates.

Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate their physical looks 1-10. Eileena: 10+/off-the-scale. Audi: 10+/off-the-scale. Andrea: 8. Rosanna: "buffalo 10" (best in Buffalo). Mia Lynn: 7 with makeup / 5 without. Michael Sartain: 6-7. Priya: declined/unclear. Discussion devolves into debate about whether beauty is objective or subjective. Brian: objective standard exists. Mia and Eileena: refuse to rate below 10. Michael Sartain: men cannot just declare value, they must earn it. Long philosophical debate on objective vs. subjective beauty standards.

Dating & First Dates — Who Pays?

Brian reveals he sometimes doesn't pay on first dates as a matter of principle and screening (low-interest women will be filtered out). Michael Sartain recommends always paying to minimize anxiety and show value. Mallory: he who asked should pay, she goes 50/50 unless overly impressed. Andrea: does the "fake reach" but hopes man pays; would hold it against a man who counts dimes. Mia Lynn: impartial, every man she's dated has paid. Rosanna: wants someone responsive and funny. Discussion of foodie calls and women who string men along. Audi: if she asked him out she would pay. Debate on whether fake-reach is entrapment.

Body Count Discussion

Brian asks body counts. Mia Lynn: 11 (includes kissing + penetrative). Andrea: 10+ (doesn't keep track, plus-or-minus 10, more than that, doesn't know). Andaza and others did not disclose clearly. Michael Sartain declines ("man of God"). Brian declines. Extended debate on whether body count matters. Michael Sartain: sticker analogy (bonding degrades after repeated partners). Rosanna: no objection to men caring, though she doesn't ask men's counts. Show of hands: most women do not object to men caring about body count. Discussion of triple-digit body count as deal-breaker (most said yes at triple digits). Sartain cites 83% of women who cheat fall in love with affair partner vs. 29% for men.

Ideal Partner Types & Preferences

Round of physical and personality preferences in a partner. Andaza: men with dreads/locks, looks hard but soft personality. Rosanna: conscientious, cares about health, creative, responsive, intelligent, funny. Mallory: 6ft+ (not required), broad shoulders, dark and handsome, ambitious, gamer-type, no race preference. Mia Lynn: slightly older (10-15 yrs), white men mostly; also dating a 22yo (cougar moment). Michael Sartain: Vegas-type body (tight, cocktail server), boob jobs OK, long hair, green/blue eyes, not deal-breakers. Mia Lynn shares story of diplomat's son who used his dead father as a move. Brian: prefers short women (4'10"-4'11"), calm/introverted, natural, no surgery, low body count, soft voice, slight preference dark hair and blue/green eyes, parents made her do violin or cello.

Closing — Announcements & Wrap

Brian announces next show: Thursday special debate edition — Destiny vs. mystery guest on mystery topic (3:30pm Pacific). Then back to Dating Talk next Sunday 7pm Pacific. Michael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA (Babes and Toyland for troops overseas). Brian explains issue with Karen downstairs neighbor complaining about noise. Thanks guests; asks everyone to exit quietly due to neighbor complaint. Show ends.

Transcript

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Andreaon the same playing field level appropriate for her to be going out with and she could get kissed I think at that point it was more so like a choice by her I feel like if she's really young

Priyait's terrible looking no not at all I mean she could absolutely get a date no problem but yeah I mean it's totally fine if people are doing that of their own free will but to sit here and be like oh boohoo I haven't gotten my first

Eileenakiss I'm 23. kind of ridiculous yeah well she's posting it because she wants someone to kiss her you know what I mean but she wouldn't be posting it if you didn't want someone to come

Brian Atlashere's actually the craziest here's actually the crazy thing is I don't time wise okay let's just play the video uh pull up the one where she's like reacting to the news articles because

Priyathere's a bunch of news articles I don't know why this went viral but it's a personal preference or religious reasons that's totally like go ahead yeah that's totally the reason but to sit here and just kind of be like it's one of the videos that's already pulled up as if no

Brian Atlasone's good enough I guess for her yeah but also you you have to be real with your stance I asked you to skip over one so it's the one uh between the the YouTube video and then the last one

Andreaalso my first kiss was horrible like there was nothing no fireworks yeah this one

Unknownsaying that this is not what it was meant to be the video was supposed to be funny yes it's entirely true I've never had first kiss I've never been on a date I did not lie about it but I thought it was funny I was poking one of myself skip to like the 55 seconds mark

Brian AtlasI what

Brian AtlasTick Tock dog mine was actually good and I knew I was good okay it's all had braces and my was up

Brian Atlasmessed up it's not loading just pause it I'll tell you what she says so okay she says blah blah blah there's some stuff and then she starts complaining because she posted this thing that there's some

Brian Atlasnews articles she starts whinging that and and this is kind of a totally different thread but she complains that there were guys she

Brian Atlaswanted men to stop dming her saying oh I'll be your first kiss and she's calling them creepy and stuff because they were dming her being flirtatious being like Oh I'll be your

Brian Atlasfirst kiss and like that is such a privileged position like like if a dude was online 23 year old man posting I've I've never kissed a girl I've never been on a date you think I need thousands of

Brian Atlaswomen will be like I will be your first kiss so it's such a privileged position and this is actually PRI like a lot of women will say why don't men approach anymore why don't men and I mean there's a lot of reasons why social media dating apps Etc

Brian Atlasum men don't really have an incentive to approach in person because they can get girls online or at least have the illusion of the possibility of getting girls online um but often women complain why don't men ever approach me in person anymore I

Brian Atlaswish well it's precisely because a lot of women will if the guy is not like if he doesn't approach you and precisely the perfect way that you would like to be approached he's going to get labeled as a creep case in point this 23 year

Brian Atlasold girl who's had zero dating experience has never had the first kiss is putting these men on blast publicly that they're creepy simply just by dming her saying I will be your first kiss which

Brian Atlasbased off of the video she released is flirtatious now is the first opening line hey I'll make out with you maybe that's not the best you know first opening line but in any case like

Brian Atlasshe is rebuffing rejecting these men publicly online and uh it's interesting to me that a lot of women complain that men aren't approaching anymore yet here you have a woman who's never even had a

Brian Atlasfirst kiss publicly humiliating these men who are she's not like naming them but like still that's that's one of the big reasons why men are no longer approaching women is because they don't want to be labeled as a creep or even

Brian Atlasworse have some sort of you know false accusation whatever especially especially if like guys are in school like bro there's a lot of going on in the uh with Title IX and that's

Brian Atlasuh no good but um I don't never had the kids I I was trying to segment that into something related but it slipped my mind really quick I want to come back to your thing uh paying for

Brian Atlasthe first aid so just a point for clarification you want the guy to pay for the first date correct the first transaction the first transaction first date would you consider that to be a traditional gender role for for a guy to

Brian Atlaspay for the first date yes okay so you want a traditional guy no oh oh wait

Brian Atlasso you want a you want a traditional gesture yes okay well you I want them traditional you want a poly what do you mean you don't want them from

Andreatraditionally you know well because then it's like oh well then I you know I want to be able to do my job I want to be able to post bikini pics that would be not traditional you know right so but so I guess I guess where I'm going with

Brian Atlasthat is do you consider yourself a traditional woman no do you okay that's fair though you you did admit that you don't necessarily want a traditional guy but you do want at least in this

Brian Atlasspecific scenario a guy to adhere to his traditional gender role in the first instance of paying for the first date yeah so are there any maybe you're not a traditional woman but are there any

Andreainitial ways in which you adhere to your traditional gender roles even if limited of course of course I like even with my ex I would cook I would clean I would do the domestic stuff I think some stuff is

Brian Atlasjust natural right what even if you sure but but so you but you do want that upfront traditional treatment from men but I mean you you do please clarify

Brian Atlasit's not clear to me you do only fans yes you post do you post full nude no you post what panties or something or

Andreawhat is this teas loots yeah is that traditional no so why do you demand a guy adhere to his traditional gender role

Andreabut on the front on the front end but when he's first met you you have you're I think it's more like a I don't know if I call it traditional more like a cultural thing almost

Brian AtlasI didn't is it but isn't it wouldn't couldn't you make the argument that culturally men are not thrilled about dating women who are posting

Brian Atlascan you please specify precisely what you you have like lingerie you post lingerie I do pantyhose content did you sell your pantyhose I have

Andreathat's pretty non-traditional I'm not traditional I'm very like free spirited and I hope whoever my partner is and they have been in the past they've been free spirited too just in

Andreathis one instance and in some instances I think um it's polite and respectful thing to do you know what you don't try a little

Brian Atlaspoly no no okay I would say I'm with you but wouldn't it wouldn't be the polite and respectful thing to do when getting into a new relationship

Brian Atlasnot have your semi-nude photographs online and have have sent dudes who you don't even know your pantyhose yeah I guess no I agree with you but it's not black and white

Andreayou know what I mean like we can't just put into a box either you're traditional or non-traditional you need to find someone with the same values as you and in this case those traditional like restaurant things and cultural things

Andrealike that that to me is important and then other you know sexual things like you know showing a bit of skin on the line that's not as big of a deal as me him having multiple partners that's not as big of a deal as it oh so you be

Andreapoligenous you just want to be polyamorous I don't know no I obligence when you're multiple women too yeah yeah but it's closed on your end it's all monogamous that's a good

Eileenaquestion like do you guys prefer monogamous or polyamorous because in this times now it's like okay totally fine if you have like do you guys prefer to be monogamous I was just in a polygamous relationship is that what you

Mia Lynnsay closed on one end polygeny so yeah closed on my end but open on his politics yeah and um I was really okay with it like 100

Mia Lynnokay with it but um at the end of it things ended because like of my past and he like just couldn't get over it essentially so I had to take the L on

Mia Lynnthat one and um you didn't take an l St no I did yeah I did I did um because yeah absolutely by the way Mike Rolo texted me and this was when we

Brian Atlaswere talking about like the girls who will make one guy wait and then make um previous guys so this is from Rolo tomasi the rational male women break

Brian Atlasrules for alpha males and make rules for beta males so you'll make the the is

Priyaokay so we touched them make rules for Betas and break rules for Alphas oh one thousand rules for Betas and break rules so but I guess going back to what you were saying before you had said that you

Priyawere not like quite as bothered with him having other sexual partners him seeing other women sorry I I think I uh misspoke I meant like him having a lot of sexual partners in the past oh in the past

Brian Atlassorry yeah can you pull up the twitch really quick and then we have two more things and then we're gonna wrap and then uh all right guys go to twitch.tv slash whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub if you have

Brian Atlason twitch.tv slash whatever drops to follow JavaScript Prime so oh we hit 1 000 Subs hey thank you guys so much really appreciate it clue thanks for the prime man appreciate it okay cool uh so these are just notes that came up as uh you guys had mentioned

Brian Atlasthem earlier on so some of you keep notes of the men that you've slept with I think I don't know if you said enough you have like a notepad so it's on your phone like what yeah it's a lock no oh just in the mic please oh yeah is it a

Brian AtlasGoogle spreadsheet with like different attributes no it's like in my notes app okay yeah so just show who has a note Notes app of all the dudes that you've I guess so yeah

Eileenano no no no no I've like journals about like my past relationships to compare like also know what red flags are words like learn about myself but that was like a one-time Journal can you just tilt the mic down towards

Brian Atlasyou a little bit so for your for your notes uh what like you don't have to get into details but like what what are the the different columns so you have like no it's just a list of names name but

Andazawhatever like dick size age no it's it's not a spreadsheet literally just their names some people guess my Social Security

Mia Lynnassorted feature by dick size I got a cucumber Emoji Google Sheets so it's just the modern version of an oven right exactly my to-do list oh there's a grocery list but it's mine

Malloryjust names as well just names I have like time time

Mallorywe came to the Intercourse at Chili's no no no no like the times like the amount of times and then like what year I think it's really important to keep track of

Brian Atlasthat kind of stuff in case Health stuff comes back later oh shoot all right last last thing here a couple of you mentioned IX so that we're gonna talk last thing we're gonna talk about the

Brian Atlasziggs so so see and you see a couple of you seemed rather um interested in that topic so do you have any x what are some X um yeah what first off what does it what

Andazais an ick what does that mean yeah automatic turn off there's nothing else right now it's not about it so sure just let me think about it oh okay come back to you any X

Andreacan I say X you don't know what they are they hit you out of nowhere you're walking down with your your boo and then you notice like I seen this one on Tick

AndreaTock his ear was flapping a little bit weird or oh I know oh yeah or yeah it's like something that you didn't even know you didn't like until or he wouldn't pick up the mail also yeah

Eileenathat was up bad teeth you know like the bad breath with the bad teeth you should be able to have bad teeth in the bread I don't feel like that's kind of like not a hard thing I can't do yeah

Brian Atlasyou smell like freaking goat cheese like that's I feel like having bad hygiene that's almost a given like I don't think anybody likes you know maybe I'm trying to think of a like I think it's like

Mia Lynnsomething that like in my opinion like you you're seeing your like one one girl said like I saw my man like get out of the pool and like he tripped and like that was a big ick I think it's like seeing a man like outside of his

Eileenamasculine or like do something like a little weird let's say we're at a restaurant and he's talking to the waitress like not in a respectful manner like just yeah like hey bringing my food that isn't it like because it's like why

Andazaare you talking to people disrespectfully you know like you know irrational no the biggest I feel like my biggest ick is like uh their mindset like you really think like that and it's just like uh okay there's Nothing's

AndreaGonna Change that no I seen an ick where this girl she was swimming with her boyfriend and then she put the GoPro under the pool and his legs were going like really dinky like that yeah there you go that's different it's definitely

Eileenaa reason to end a marriage yeah I feel like what is everyone's type like we haven't we didn't say like what their type was like do you

Eileenauh why don't we start with you go ahead with the with the type your type what's your name um I I don't want to be like I have a type of we're talking about physically I've noticed I'm attracted to like Latino men I prefer like not

Eileenapreferably but I my track record is like Mexican dudes that are like kind of gangster Vibe like I think I like the very masculine manly man

Eileenayour four-year situationship didn't you say he was like loco he was from Stockton oh yeah he sells meth no no

Priyahe wasn't he wasn't a Trapper or anything like that he got bodies and not the sexual kind no no no no not that you know wait was he uh gangbanger no he wasn't like I

Eileenafeel like every guy that grows up his address in Victorville no no no no he was just like you know I feel like a lot of guys that grow up in the hood when they were when they're growing up and as kids they kind of deal with like gang things because that's very prevalent in

Michael Sartainthe hood but like out of high school he wasn't like involved in that I mean he had a little like surenial tattoo but you know it's like whatever yeah the what soreno it means it's southern Mexico like half of the yard in California

Eileenaprison system yeah there's Norteno Sereno yeah I just I didn't hear what you said they're the biggest I don't think I like cholo kind of guys anymore because that's why we're like you know you had a bad experience or I just feel

Eileenalike sometimes with that like hyper like that very macho man it's like oh they're around like their friends you know what I mean the guys will act like who their friend group is and if they're always like going crazy and stuff there's just

Brian Atlaslike so many things happening speaking of prison gangs um is it what there's also pisas yeah yeah

Michael Sartainso cerraneously it's mostly you skin color right most serenos that's Southern California typically people are of like

Brian Atlasuh Latin American descent I believe Nortenos they're from northern yeah and then pisas isn't that like they're they're nice they're ranchers like they're Farmers

Eileenathat's like they're actually like from Mexico like they were born in Mexico and they immigrated here most of the time yes by sour could be someone that like they could be second generation but their parents only speak Spanish and they're like they can still be considered by size like Rancho lifestyle

Eileenalike being a farmer you know but definitely coming from Mexico and being here is Paisan and regular white people are just called woods and then there's also white people that no they're called

Brian Atlascrackers I mean canceled um okay so that's your type is you like I noticed yeah Latino men have you ever dated the white guy like

Eileenano I have it but my mom says to because they're just more chill you know there's not like the lack of culture they're just like yeah whatever you know but

Eileenaoh no at this point I am open to all ethnicities I just noticed I did tend to like Latino Mexican men or whatever like you know okay all right yep okay cool best

Audiwhat's your type I'd be like brutal honesty almost sometimes harsh and but as far as physical appearance I've always liked

Brian Atlaspuppy puppy dog brown eyes brown hair I feel like there's so much to say like I feel like we got to get you back on the show because I know there's more

Brian Atlaslike I know you have a ton of to say but my number's open but aren't you you're in Minnesota so it's hard to get you out here yeah I'm an artist so are you sticking around California are you heading back what's what's up there's a

Audireason too oh so do you date white guys no just for the show undiscriminate let's make it awkward in here

Brian Atlasyeah let's make it awkward come on I'll do it yeah let's make it awkward wait is your preference like do you have a racial preference like your last boyfriend I really don't have a

Brian Atlaspreference your last boyfriend was black period what about before that I'm Mexican your last last seven men you've dated what race breakdown go

Audiquick in chronological order go I did a couple white guys a couple white guys couple black guys a couple white guys two Mexican guys okay all right

Andreathat's a solid roster uh what's your type uh my type is blonde hair blue eyes pale tall and skinny oh MGK yeah

Andreait's a bit too tall and lanky but isn't that literally what you just not like that he's I don't know how tall he is but he's very young okay word what about you um

Andazatadra heads with tattoos tall what with what sorry thought talk guys with locks with dreads okay but like uh but like look hard but like soft personality when

Brian Atlasit was counterproductive but I don't know you're blushing right now I'm just even thinking about it yeah he's right here I just walked in the door she's like

Rosanna Pfeifferyeah yeah okay uh what about you um is it just physical or just like anything yeah it could be physical personality traits

Rosanna Pfeifferum so conscientiousness eyes nice smile they have to be like care about their health and their physical appearance um

Rosanna Pfeiffercreative like people are creative they tend to be attracted to and people who text me back right away or answer my call or call me back right away like I

Michael Sartainlike that I don't understand why some girls don't like that Brian you would call her back every time right wait what you would call her back every time you would never like made her make her wait for a text wait you just to clarify you

Rosanna Pfeifferyou dislike it when a guy doesn't or I like it when they're responsive when they just oh she would not leave me yeah I mean it doesn't have to be like the point zero oh I'm but like I'm a

Brian Atlasterror you know I'm a terrible what if you're interested I was flying in I'm like am I still in the goddamn show what's about to happen here no I'm I've I'm a terrible texter ask anybody

Rosanna Pfeifferum and like intelligent like we have to have like really deep weird conversations that like it's not like small talk word yeah why wait why you why are you

Michael Sartaintrying to set this up she's got a boyfriend she has a boyfriend whatever podcast no I don't step on toes Ryan's down for whatever that's what it's called whatever

Mallorytitle drop uh I like Gamers that are kind of low-key so they're low-key powerful but they don't have to boast about it um ambitious and I guess looks wise I normally lean towards guys that are six

Malloryfoot and taller but I don't like necessarily need that to be a preference uh broad shoulders normally dark and handsome um

MalloryI don't have preference on race your boyfriend

Eileenawho's your boyfriend that's me chomping on his leg stop it he has some nice thighs too so um I'm a

Mia LynnPuerto Rican I really just State white guys for the most part

Michael SartainBiggie Smalls rolling over in his grave right now looking at Brooklyn he's like what happened what happened to my Burrows that's the truth didn't you write something to us

Mia Lynnabout something about your Puerto Rican body what was that oh yeah the guy I didn't say that the guy that I was on a date with that used his dead dad as

Mia Lynnlike a reason to have Jesus okay so in your notes crazy stories Diplomat his dad was a diplomat who

Mia Lynnpassed away he asked me out on a date I went and he was not like okay and um like halfway into the date he asked me how many kids I would be willing to have and whether or not I would be like if I

Mia Lynnwould do surrogacy or not um and then um yeah and then at the end of it he was like um you want to go back to my place and I was like uh no I think I'm just gonna go home and he was like but my dad but my dad died and I was

Mia Lynnlike oh I was like you did not I literally just told him I was like that is like the last thing you want to say to a girl if you want to get her baby so you're saying the sex was bad

Mia Lynnin all fairness I wrote at the end of that that I respected his efforts I respected the fact that he was ballsy you know who else would have respected it his dad all right go ahead all right

Brian Atlasfrom Beyond the Grave um but yeah he used the dead parent card to try to get away okay so you like white dudes do you also like menu you like men in therapy I'm guessing

Mia Lynnum and I like them a little bit older um yeah pretty much I don't have like a certain body like I'm pretty older yeah I mean I like them I like them a little older yeah I like how you're maybe like

Mia Lynnfine 10 15 years you're 26 right I'm 26 correct but um I'm also dating someone who's 22 so

Mia Lynnooh cougar over here okay I know I feel like it I do for the first time I do you guys you helping him with his essays on the

Mia Lynnweekend or she's the reason why he's graduating at church Brian that means he's wild I'm not talking about his homies by the way wow wow

Brian Atlas[Laughter] we got to put the camera on you if you hear her making noise just immediately put camera on her

Michael Sartainum five hours later but um okay cool uh Mike what's your type uh I like really physical physically I do like the Vegas

Michael Sartaintype I do like boob jobs the girls who have like uh really tight bodies and um yeah that's pretty much it I like long hair green or blue eyes but none of that's a deal breaker I don't care if they're blonde I don't care if they're

Michael Sartainbrunette I just really like you know I I've been in Vegas for like the last uh 11 years and the the girls you see that work at the clubs there the cocktail servers that have the 240 000 a year job those girls are my type like just

Priyaincredible bodies that's what I'm into yeah my name and that's ambitious and devoted to

Priyahis craft and his career um Christian preferably uh yeah definitely needs to take his health seriously in physical

Michael Sartainwhat about taking Super Chat seriously yeah because you got nine of them after you right now oh my God and apparently they have money too

Brian Atlasthat's it yeah I guess so all right I'll get mine uh definitely not a deal breaker but definitely prefer short women if her height doesn't start with four

Brian Atlasshe ain't the one literally shoddy but but I mean jokes aside uh I'll date a girl who's taller than me like six five I don't give a I'll date a tall girl but if if I'm leaning in One Direction

Brian Atlaspreference for like four foot eleven four foot ten even shorter get me a dwarf what's up I like do chore girls

Brian AtlasI know I see a little bit oh hold on I'm sorry oh my God that's CJ I'm so tired I'm sorry we're gonna get because

Eileena411 is considered I think little person is considered 410 or is it four nine four nine four nine I don't think that makes you report though I think that you can apply for like handicap status at 410

Rosanna Pfeifferyeah have you been with some of the important sorry okay I'm just coming off no goalkeeper just go ahead go ahead

Rosanna Pfeifferno I just forgot like something that's like really high up for me it's like funny like you have to be funny for example I was having a straight up panic attack getting here because the car rental place that I reserved a car at I

Rosanna Pfeiffergot there and they're like we don't have any cars and like what do you mean I'll have any cars like I need to get from here to Santa Barbara so I call up my friend I'd be like just I was literally like having a panic attack and he just

Rosanna Pfeiffermade me laugh and it made it better and then and then we were here so that sucked but I got here over here in Los Angeles I was like I was thinking about it

Brian Atlastomorrow because I gotta fly to LAX to two hour from LAX to uh well uh just just to let you know I don't know if some of these girls are might be driving I'm driving her home

Brian Atlasokay lovely lovely lovely okay so I'll continue with my tide so let's see what else uh slight preference for dark care again not deal breaker slide Preference dark hair slight preference blue eyes

Brian Atlasagain not a deal breaker or light eyes I mean green whatever that's fine um her parents made her do at least three years of violin or cello nice yeah that's okay

Mia Lynnstrings it can't be like piano is kind of mid-tier so anyways like when we went around like saying like what makes us happy I was like

Brian Atlasplaying piano are you a virtuoso are you good yeah I've been playing since I was eight can you do Chopin yeah okay let's talk after the show

Eileenahave you seen the number three on the Arby's menu that's what he's talking about right now for real I don't eat at Arby's I eat healthy food or like it's just what is the largest

Eileenalabia being seriously have you seen the movies finger size width like here two inches three inches how low did it go

Eileenathis is real talk and I know you know I know yes how long how big was the lady the biggest labia you've seen I feel like between your teeth just gnawing off how long

Brian AtlasI know you know who she is her right now as a gentleman I I feel like it would be Unbecoming of me too you're not saying who she is

Eileenawe do the same thing for dick so why can't you do it for later the inches I don't measure the ship no give me give me you know

Eileenano dead ass like just a rough estimate like have you all ever seen an alien you know the thing that sits on your face I know he knows I know you know who it is

Brian Atlasright now you can't see tell you what why don't you tell me where you've Fallen then I can

Eileenaask the question in your Audi

Unknownmy vagina I'm five feet um

Eileenapretend there's a you know okay a question for you are you circumcised or uncircumcised hold on you need to answer first then I'll answer oh yeah you didn't answer

Eileenathe question because I asked you how big her labia was and you wouldn't give me that so I'm not going to give you that until you give me how big the labia was

Priyaif you have a large labia hit me up wait Brian have you ever gotten it was just like Gene picks below no not that's not what I was like just ask if you've

Brian Atlasgotten DMs like yes I do yeah do you get pictures I wasn't asking about pictures but I I have had yeah I've gotten

Brian Atlasoh Jesus yeah please send any my way oh my God it's It's Hard Out Here you know it's hard out no it's large out here

PriyaI think the problem that he's having is that it's not right wait what wait what oh is that I'm waiting I'm confused she said it's large out here maybe is uh

Eileenacircumcised around circumcised size okay yeah us Protestants do that oh yeah yes so that's why it's prostates Protestants well you know

Brian Atlasokay what uh okay what else other preferences uh I like peace I don't like combative women I prefer I I'm I concern myself a bit more introverted so I prefer women

Brian Atlaswho are a bit more on the introverted side who are a bit more calm relaxing I don't like there's some chicks who have like that crackhead energy and it's to me it's just way too

Brian Atlasmuch I like calm like mellow women if if you're like super energetic super intense super I don't like loud women um like some women talk really

Brian Atlasloud so I prefer more like almost like kind of shy nerdy type chicks I guess sure ASMR is cool but uh women with soft voices is Pleasant um if a

Brian Atlaswoman has like a really good voice that'll like bump her up like one or two points if she's got like I'm sure so look at what's a good voice for you like Marilyn Monroe like oh Brian uh I guess

Brian Atlascome look at my roast beef come look at my recipe I find women who are like nerdy or shy or introverted they tend to have typically very big ladies no

Brian AtlasPleasant voices um I prefer no makeup little makeup uh no I don't like plastic surgery I don't like anything fake um

Brian Atlasthat's the longest description I know I know wow he was really in there that's not picky though yeah yeah just Pleasant low body count that's

Brian Atlaspretty much it that's a the come on guys yeah it is I'm not like I'm not saying she's got to be a 10 out of 10. she's got to be a smoke show model just have a large

Brian Atlaslabia what's up I'll pay I'll pay you okay

Michael Sartainyou're never gonna believe what I just saw what's her name okay I'm with Senator Brian you want to go on a big podcast just go meet Brian let's set it up dude BLM how do you you know it'd be great if like that would be

Brian Atlasa socially appropriate question to ask a girl disappoint blank like yo you what's your lit

Michael Sartainit's healing brisk it we talk about you know roast beef we're talking about bat wings so what are we talking about here dude all of the above

Brian Atlasall of the above I feel like you're so serious right now dude I'm so serious and I think but here's the thing right I like women who do have Audis like I know you might think I'm kind of being facetious or joking about this it is

Brian Atlasactually kind of like like a lot of women do like hold on in the United States uh 10 000 women per year literally mutilate their their own genitals it's called a labia Place

Brian Atlasplasti where they like will literally if they have an Audi they cut the lips off and I think that's like up so ladies I'll talk you out of that but but like women will get shamed for that

Brian Atlasone there's there's a myth that if they have like large labia that they that means that they've been stretched out and they no that's that's that's not that's not how the anatomy Works um but women do get shamed for it and

Brian AtlasI'm against it because I'm also against men who get shamed if you know they are inadequate in that department let's say men will get shamed if they have a small penis I don't think that's fair that's how men were born that's how women were

Brian Atlasborn I don't think we should be shaming people for their natural Anatomy how they were born men can't control the size of their dongs women can't control the size of their hoo-ha let's not shame women you know amen let's not shape

Brian Atlasanybody for their Hallelujah is word labia check anybody anybody want a lady type I got the gripper

Eileenaoh my God she said I had the gripper yeah it's Gorilla Glue up in here I was like I don't want my brain I don't know what does that mean yeah

Priyaoh you're so sweet wait what me no I was like wait wait I also

Malloryokay okay big lips is the gripper oh I didn't know I thought it made it yeah gripper like I don't know I don't

Malloryknow if I can get you into that inside when it goes in like I mean you ever had someone not been able to come out they're like dude I can't even pull out right now anybody can be like that

Michael Sartainwow right now

Eileenawasn't there some chick that went viral because she claimed she had gorilla grip or some what we got to test that there yeah and we'll send Brian I don't know like you know what you know what though Mike

Brian AtlasRyan like for almost most tight like it's pretty rare to like have you guys I've experienced like one or two girls but like it's pretty rare to have like

Eileenamost chicks have typos well it's like fluctuating it's like I feel like it's more of an age thing than like a I have you been wet now it has lubrication natural lubrication been a thing or have you noticed like dry like some

Michael Sartainpeople be like that is was dropped I mean I'm talking about like a lot of cocaine I'm talking about like SpongeBob on the table slide out drive maybe like like Coke and water

Brian Atlashydrant what the ing hire this chick for sure for some zombie noises

Brian Atlasall right cool let's let's wrap it up all right um

Brian Atlaslast call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could then anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who's so graciously super chats donates and supports the show your patronage is

Brian Atlasuh very much appreciated thank you to the wonderful panel I know we went late guys thank you guys for sticking it out um thank you to all our chat mods big thank you to Britt who is helping with our time stamps thank you any women who

Brian Atlaswant to be on the show DM out whatever uh and uh we will be live again Thursday we're doing a special debate edition of the whatever podcast it's going to be earlier on and I think framing for 3 30

Brian Atlasp.m Pacific Thursday Destiny versus uh I'll keep it the mystery Destiny versus mystery guest on a topic uh that is also a mystery

Brian Atlasum let's see here and then and then we'll be back to the dating talk next Sunday 7 PM Pacific um did you have anything it sounded like you might have had yeah so so this week if you guys are interested I'm hosting a

Michael Sartaincharity event in Los Angeles on Thursday it's a babes and Toyland we do one every year for animal rescue we do one for troops overseas this one's gonna be for troops overseas we do one uh for uh breast cancer awareness on October 15th and then we also do one for homeless

Michael Sartainchildren at the Midnight Mission so it's a bunch of influencers they come together and we raise several hundred thousand dollars for charity so if any ladies are interested in coming to that or gentlemen are interested to come to that message me also uh for any of you guys we'll be talking about uh puffy

Michael SartainVegas over there if you guys want any we have a free school server if you guys are interested we fix people's Instagrams and we also have a the first four steps of my course medal of action are also on our free school server message me on Instagram michaelsartain

Michael Sartainand I will definitely I mean we are we're The Originators of any kind of Social Circle Game nobody's ever done it better than us if you guys want to come check it check us out just go message me on Instagram

Brian Atlassweet sweet sweet okay cool um uh and this isn't really for the viewers but I think I mentioned it earlier on in the Stream my downstairs neighbor is a

Brian AtlasKaren and has been a thorn in my side it's a long story maybe I'll get into it in the future show in any case she's been complaining for the five seconds at the

Brian Atlasend of the show when everybody gets out of the chairs she claims that we're moving a bunch of furniture around she's a Karen she's causing major issues with my landlord because she

Brian Atlasit I'll get into it at some future points so and so if I can ask everybody as we're getting out of our chairs if we can do so so slowly so the Karen downstairs doesn't freak the out

Brian Atlasand so just uh quietly kind of scoot back and then quietly get out and I know some of you are on Heels so if you can if you can tread uh I know this is boring for the chat to hear if you can

Brian Atlastread quietly and try not to stomp as as you go all right guys that's it um we'll see you guys next time good night guys and uh hope you guys have a

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