CAT FIGHT! Heated Debate About CHEATING?! | Dating Talk #87

Date: 2023-07-26

Duration: 5h 38m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EEileena (DT87)>

AAudi Drip (DT87)>

AAndrea (DT87)>

AAndaza (DT87)>

RRosanna Pfeiffer >

MMallory (DT87)>

MMia Lynn (DT87)>

MMichael Sartain >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_03Rosanna Pfeiffer(guest)

SPEAKER_04Eileena(guest)

SPEAKER_05Mia Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andaza(guest)

SPEAKER_07Michael Sartain(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS/Video Audio(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_11Audi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mallory(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMichael Sartain introduces himself: retired USAF captain, MOA founder, 45yo, hosts Michael Sartain Podcast and Access Vegas

“"my name is Michael Sartain I'm a retired US Air Force captain of little KC-135 uh as a navigator and I did special ops and I did counter Intel for a while and now I'm the founder of the men of action mentoring program... I'm 45"”

QuoteAndaza reveals she walked in on her boyfriend cheating and physically fought him and the other woman

“"There we go walked in on it walked in on it yeah... caught shorty on the corner so... he thought you're gonna be gone for a little while... yeah I ended up whooping her ass and then I moved to LA"”

QuoteMichael Sartain explains that removing birth control implant dramatically improved his girlfriend's personality and mood

“"she had the birth control thing taken out... totally different bro totally... the birth control thing makes bro... it's just so... it's a night and day"”

QuoteTikTok "bare minimum" dating standards video played — woman lists: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything

“"this is the bare minimum for dating me number one asked me to be his girlfriend... number two buys me flowers often... picks me up and drops me off... offers to pay for every activity and doesn't expect me to do 50 50"”

ControversyEileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating coach, calling her a "26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice with two men in her bed"

“"This is all coming from a 26 year old relationship Tick Tock Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"”

ControversyMia Lynn tells Eileena "I don't care" and defends her right to give dating advice based on relationship experience

“"in my bed did you not listen to me say that I'm platonic... listen to me say I don't care"”

QuoteMichael Sartain presents stat that average US male height is 5'9" and only ~14% of men are over 6ft

“"the number of men the percentage of men over six feet tall... four percent... it's crazy... five nine yeah... the number of men... 14 percent over six feet tall"”

QuoteBrian asks panel to rate their physical looks 1-10; Eileena and Audi declare themselves 10+/off-the-scale

“"ask everyone to write their looks on a schedule of one to ten so you can't be like all my my personality I'm going to I'm a 10 out of 10... they'd be calling me Alicia Keys on there"”

QuoteBrian explains he sometimes does not pay on first dates as a screening tool and principle (does not want to feel like a sucker)

“"there are women that will string you along... keep securing attention... you'll pay for her... I'm not going to pay so when someone's your girlfriend then I will fall into... if you're committed to me then I will"”

QuoteMia Lynn reveals her body count is 11 (including kissing and penetrative sex)

“"I include like people in my body count that have like kissed penetrative sex 11 people 11 people"”

QuoteMia Lynn recounts a date with a diplomat's son who used his dead father as a reason to sleep with her

“"he was like um you want to go back to my place and I was like uh no I think I'm just gonna go home and he was like but my dad but my dad died and I was like oh... that is like the last thing you want to say to a girl"”

QuoteMichael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA — Babes and Toyland for troops overseas

“"I'm hosting a charity event in Los Angeles on Thursday it's a babes and Toyland we do one every year for animal rescue... this one's gonna be for troops overseas"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens show, plugs streamlabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit/clips channels. Guests introduce themselves in order: Eileena (bartender, 24), Audi/Audi Drip (fashion designer/musician, 22), Andrea (content creator/OnlyFans, 31, Quebec Canada), Andaza (hair model/social media, 23), Rosanna Pfeiffer (nurse practitioner/model/actress, 34, Buffalo NY), Mallory (content creator/marketing, 27), Mia Lynn (internet personality/PhD student, 26, Brooklyn), Kelly (student/personal stylist, 21), Michael Sartain (MOA founder/USAF/podcast host, 45), Priya (ASU student/equestrian, 22).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Eileena: single, never had official relationship, one 4yr situationship. Audi: single since 18, career-focused, had a poly house situation at 19. Andrea: divorced after 2-year marriage, happy being single. Andaza: newly single (2 months) after cheating incident — walked in on boyfriend, fought the other woman. Rosanna: 2-year relationship. Mallory: in relationship with her Tinder match's best friend. Mia Lynn: dating two men platonically/non-exclusively (one Catholic church guy, one 22yo from Williamsburg/AZ). Kelly: 1yr 7mo relationship. Michael Sartain: relationship since Oct prior year (girlfriend 24 years younger, 21yo; met at Mexico bikini pageant). Priya: single ~1 year, on show ~3-4 weeks prior, no new developments.

Andaza's Cheating Story & Catfight Debate

Andaza tells story of walking in on boyfriend with another woman. Debate erupts over whether to fight the other woman (Andaza: yes, did it) vs. walking away (Mia Lynn, Mallory: walk away). Eileena defends fighting. Mia Lynn argues any physical violence is domestic violence. Show of hands on responses to catching partner cheating. Discussion of Texas historical law on killing spouse and lover in flagrante. Rosanna: walked in at 17 drunk at a club and reacted physically; says she would not do that now. Brian moderates, discusses provocation limits.

TikTok "Bare Minimum" Dating Standards Video Reaction

Brian plays a TikTok video of a woman listing her bare minimum dating standards: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything, no 50/50. Panel debates whether standards are too high. Eileena: not too high. Audi: standards OK but you can't cherry-pick traits. Andrea: agrees with some (not flowers, not driving). Michael Sartain: attraction precedes standards; all items are "comfort-building" not attraction-building. Follow-up clip shows what she brings to table ("peace and energy"). Discussion of what men bring vs. what women bring.

Eileena vs. Mia Lynn Clash — Dating Coach Credentials

Eileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating advisor for men given she is not in a relationship herself ("26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"). Mia Lynn defends herself: she has been in relationships, has grown through them, and advises from experience. Kelly also questioned Mia earlier at ~0:32. Mia tells Eileena to not interrupt her. Tension between them continues through episode.

Jonah Hill / Relationship Boundaries Debate

Discussion of Jonah Hill's leaked texts to ex-girlfriend about her surfing in bikini. Michael Sartain defends Hill's right to set boundaries and argues the ex was the real wrongdoer (released messages after Hill had a baby with someone else). Brian: Hill was manipulative. Debate on whether surfers wear bikinis (Brian/Sartain disagree). Discussion of whether a partner can reasonably ask the other not to post in bikinis. Mia Lynn: boundaries are OK as long as not controlling.

Red Pill / Evolutionary Psychology Discussion

Michael Sartain leads extended discussion on Dr. David Buss's 37-culture evolutionary psychology study. Topics: hypergamy, body count and pair bonding, high status vs. low status men (Sartain: they are functionally different species), why men cheat (high status men have options), women's attraction vs. comfort distinction, oxytocin bonding and body count effects on women, naturalistic fallacy (what is natural ≠ what is good). Mia Lynn and Rosanna contribute neuroscience on oxytocin/vasopressin. Discussion of Genghis Khan Y chromosome, women waiting at the finish line (Rich Cooper quote).

Women's Standards & the "Delusion Gap"

Michael Sartain presents statistics: top 1% income is ~$615K/year (most women guessed $150-400K); average US male height is 5'9"; only ~14% of men are over 6 feet tall. Discussion of women's unrealistic standards driven by exposure to high-status men (VIP hosts, bottle service). Discussion of birth control (hormonal implant removal improving girlfriend's personality). Priya and Priya discuss natural cycles tracking (fertility awareness method). Brian and Sartain discuss never paying for girls at clubs who can't afford high dates.

Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate their physical looks 1-10. Eileena: 10+/off-the-scale. Audi: 10+/off-the-scale. Andrea: 8. Rosanna: "buffalo 10" (best in Buffalo). Mia Lynn: 7 with makeup / 5 without. Michael Sartain: 6-7. Priya: declined/unclear. Discussion devolves into debate about whether beauty is objective or subjective. Brian: objective standard exists. Mia and Eileena: refuse to rate below 10. Michael Sartain: men cannot just declare value, they must earn it. Long philosophical debate on objective vs. subjective beauty standards.

Dating & First Dates — Who Pays?

Brian reveals he sometimes doesn't pay on first dates as a matter of principle and screening (low-interest women will be filtered out). Michael Sartain recommends always paying to minimize anxiety and show value. Mallory: he who asked should pay, she goes 50/50 unless overly impressed. Andrea: does the "fake reach" but hopes man pays; would hold it against a man who counts dimes. Mia Lynn: impartial, every man she's dated has paid. Rosanna: wants someone responsive and funny. Discussion of foodie calls and women who string men along. Audi: if she asked him out she would pay. Debate on whether fake-reach is entrapment.

Body Count Discussion

Brian asks body counts. Mia Lynn: 11 (includes kissing + penetrative). Andrea: 10+ (doesn't keep track, plus-or-minus 10, more than that, doesn't know). Andaza and others did not disclose clearly. Michael Sartain declines ("man of God"). Brian declines. Extended debate on whether body count matters. Michael Sartain: sticker analogy (bonding degrades after repeated partners). Rosanna: no objection to men caring, though she doesn't ask men's counts. Show of hands: most women do not object to men caring about body count. Discussion of triple-digit body count as deal-breaker (most said yes at triple digits). Sartain cites 83% of women who cheat fall in love with affair partner vs. 29% for men.

Ideal Partner Types & Preferences

Round of physical and personality preferences in a partner. Andaza: men with dreads/locks, looks hard but soft personality. Rosanna: conscientious, cares about health, creative, responsive, intelligent, funny. Mallory: 6ft+ (not required), broad shoulders, dark and handsome, ambitious, gamer-type, no race preference. Mia Lynn: slightly older (10-15 yrs), white men mostly; also dating a 22yo (cougar moment). Michael Sartain: Vegas-type body (tight, cocktail server), boob jobs OK, long hair, green/blue eyes, not deal-breakers. Mia Lynn shares story of diplomat's son who used his dead father as a move. Brian: prefers short women (4'10"-4'11"), calm/introverted, natural, no surgery, low body count, soft voice, slight preference dark hair and blue/green eyes, parents made her do violin or cello.

Closing — Announcements & Wrap

Brian announces next show: Thursday special debate edition — Destiny vs. mystery guest on mystery topic (3:30pm Pacific). Then back to Dating Talk next Sunday 7pm Pacific. Michael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA (Babes and Toyland for troops overseas). Brian explains issue with Karen downstairs neighbor complaining about noise. Thanks guests; asks everyone to exit quietly due to neighbor complaint. Show ends.

Transcript

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Eileenatell us your name age and occupation go ahead hi my name is Eileena I'm 24 and I'm a bartender all right welcome thank you

Audium Audi AKA Audi drip I'm a fashion designer musician and I'm trying to make a living living age

AudiI'm 22. 22. okay Audi drip is that your rap name or it's my clothing drip the clothes so yeah people call me audience drip with the clothes with the music whatever it is

Brian Atlasand by the way she she very graciously made some art for us so I'm gonna hold it up to the camera here it's good check it out guys she's a talented yeah let me see if I can oh it's awesome look

Brian Atlasat that that's cool right wait what's what the did you put the heart here hello is that what's that signify are you is this like a is it a love note

AndreaI love doodle a little instead of a love poem okay well I expect a poem later tonight um uh okay what about you hi my name is Andrea I'm 31 32 in a couple of

Andreadays and I do YouTube only fans streaming pretty much anything content creation okay um and I actually detect a bit of an accent from the both of you are you

Brian Atlaswhere are you from I'm from the Midwest born in St Paul Minnesota born and raised do they have accents in Minnesota yes yeah does she have a

Brian AtlasMinnesota accent no no what is your accent I'm trying to detect what it is people tell me I have all different types of accents so I don't know you you could you could be

Andreathe judge okay we'll we'll get some more samples later on in the show I'm actually from Canada Quebec Canada so well that's kind of French Canada but I'm still here

AndreaI didn't know you spoke French but Minnesota is close to the Canadian border so they speak kind of similar in some degrees okay uh what about you my name

Brian Atlasis andaza I'm a hair model and a social media manager hair model yeah I didn't know they were hair well I've heard of hair models you got good hair so okay

Andazathank you uh age 23 23 okay so like Maybelline cream of nature head and shoulders knees and toes

Rosanna Pfeifferso like do you have you done any shampoo bottles or no more of like their poster girl okay gotcha yeah okay very cool hi my name is Rosanna Pfeiffer um I'm

Rosanna Pfeifferfrom Buffalo New York I'm a nurse practitioner and I also model and act age 34.

Brian Atlas34. you said nurse practitioner yes okay okay and you do you do content too you make content

Mallorycontent creator like what kind like I model and act so I guess kind of okay gotcha what about you I am Mal Palpatine and I'm 27 and I am a content creator and I also do marketing strategy full

Brian Atlastime it's your last name really Palpatine no um I wish is that your stage name yeah do

Malloryyou have a should so we should refer Mal is you call me Mal or Mallory is your real name Gertrude no it's just Rogers it's boring and I don't know her name is Roger no my last name is Rogers Mallory

Brian Atlasis her first name yes oh that's your legit first name yes oh okay Mallory okay what about you hi my name is Mia Lynn I'm 26 years old and um and the

Mia Lynninterim of getting my PhD in Psychology I've been an internet personality for about five years and um I'm starting a male dating advice platform called manasmia

Mia Lynnyeah and you you're going to provide dating advice coaching yeah essentially I started off on Tick Tock and then it kind of became popular and it's gonna go into like

Brian Atlaspatreon what was your like breakout piece of advice that you provided to um a guy when it comes to dating when you mean breakout what do you mean well I mean you said you post on Tick Tock typically

Brian Atlaslike someone will have like a video that gets in the algorithm or goes viral have you had one of like a video that just got a lot of views where you were no good advice oh okay usually I'll just just be like hey if you're a guy that dates a girl ask me questions I got the

Mia LynnInsight like tell me what's up and they'll just start asking and I'll start responding do you date women too or are you are you I've been with women in the past but I'm like it's crazy that's I've

Kellynever heard of that with men I'm pretty much heterosexual but I experimented okay got it okay we'll come we'll touch back on that later uh Kelly what about you hi I'm Kelly I'm 21 I'm a student

Kellyand I'm a personal stylist and Shopper for Nordstrom and I do social media and content creation for them as well all right welcome back thanks Mike me yes you uh my name is Michael

Michael SartainSartain I'm a retired at U.S Air Force captain of little kc-135 uh as a navigator and I did special ops and I did counter Intel for a while and now I'm the founder of the men of action mentoring program uh and I also host the

Michael SartainMichael Sartain podcast and I host a show called access Vegas with my good buddy Rolo tomasi very cool uh did you see your age by the way I'm 45. what really I am 45. I spent

Brian Atlasmy 30s in uh with Uncle Sam good times I thought I thought you were younger I think I said that last time yeah but uh you're you're uh moisturizer that must

Priyabe what it is what about you hi my name is Priya I'm 22 years old I'm a full-time student at ASU uh I'm an athlete and I co-run a family business

Brian Atlaswhat kind of athlete I'm an equestrian so I ride horses are you a horse core girl Brian am I a horse girl yes you are

Brian Atlasdefinitely a horse girl how many horses do you own I own three currently three horses okay I'm writing that down because that's going to be useful for later okay um very cool

Brian Atlaswhat's that oh sorry I didn't okay I got it wrong all right okay guys we're gonna go around the table once more so please tell us your current relationship status or are you single are you talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits

Brian Atlasrelationship married polycule um how long have you been single if you're single and what's your longest relationship you've ever had go ahead yeah so I am currently single

Eileenaum men are welcome to come um around me okay I was confused so I

Eileenaknow I was like all right yeah anyways but yeah I've been single I've always been single like I've never been in a relationship I've only been in situationship like one situation if it

Brian Atlasdoesn't count okay so never been in a relationship one situationship yeah how long have you been single properly single or maybe

Eileenayou're not properly single no I'm I'm single yeah I'm out of since I've been out of the relationship it's been two years you sounded a little distressed there when you were

Eileenado all the guys that you're dating know that you're single I don't talk to people I I am a solo dolo person I feel like it's really hard to connect with someone I can't just connect with anybody on the streets you know on the

Brian Atlasstreets yeah like outside the means are you you live in L.A I live in L.A yeah okay gotcha okay uh one so you had one situationship what's the longest period of time that you

Brian Atlaswe're seeing a guy what even if it wasn't official boyfriend girlfriend what was the longest whatever it was uh four years a four-year situation oh yeah I think you provided that for us before

Brian Atlasthe yeah okay four-year situation and was it pretty con like because some people are on again off again even with situation ships or was it like pretty

Eileenaconsistent situation it was on again off-again thing like maybe two to three times a year on being on and off and just doing the same thing over and over four years explain that how does I

Eileenajust feel like when you're young and you're like a girl and you date someone that's a man and they're older than you you just kind of like um connect at a different level especially if it's like a first love situation so it's a first love situation

Eileenathose things are really tough to navigate especially if you didn't have the tools growing up on a healthy relationship on how to deal with that so you just kind of like two kids playing

Eileenathis game with each other but haven't had the tools to really know how to be a functional healthy relationship so yeah okay um and you said it was an age Gap

Eileenarelationship um it was five years I was 18 they were 22 when we met okay so you but you haven't talked to this guy in a while it's been over for a

Brian Atlasminute yeah okay so 18 to 22 is when you're okay and you're 24 now got it okay um rock and roll what so when you were saying it was on again off again were

Brian Atlasthere like periods of where you guys would fight and then there'd be like a pseudo breakup even though you guys weren't technically together I suppose yeah who who more often than not was

Eileenainitiating the I don't want to see you was it him or was it you it was it would be me leaving and me coming back almost every time but he was he asking you to

Brian Atlascome back or no oh so you would leave him pissed off yeah and then you missed him yeah because he was talking to other girls I mean yeah it was that's why it was a

Eileenasituationship because he was with other people the whole time he never told you he wanted monogamy um he would just say that he couldn't do commitment that was always the thing for the span of Warriors like oh I can't be

Eileenacommitted but he just meant to like one punani um give a PG-13 version of

Audiokay all right well what about you I put in the singing single child Minnesota yes um I'll be really focused on wait can you I'm sorry

Audipeople that singing single single wait the thing the thing in single oh people who sing or single okay um you know I'm not saying you can't

Audifocus on a career of creating an art and also see people but I have chosen as a young when I was young to really focus on creating out first and I really didn't feel like at a young

Audiage I had the tools to be in a proper relationship so I have seen quite a few people but never even escalated to the point where I'll say like we could date we could be exclusive

Audiso have you ever you're 22 have you ever had a boyfriend or relationship or I'll say more relationships I had boyfriends when I was in high school and middle school

Audiso I think about over 18 after 18. I would not say um dating I would say relationships

Audiand be more than just friends but never never intentions to be more at least I had never had intentions with so no romantic relationships correct got it friends with benefits

Brian Atlasokay so no commitment correct so were you seeing several people was the guy seeing several people what was

AudiI've been in a couple relationships one was a more poly relationship where the man had lots of females around the house and

Audium I really enjoyed that relationship because that was the one where I felt most um that I could be myself because I

Audireally do feel like not I can't really cover one person's all their needs where in Utah was this Minnesota

Brian Atlaswait so were you living in this in the house with the guy with the multiple girlfriends or whatever correct was it multiple dudes too no just women one

Brian Atlasdude how many how many women depends how many women want to be around like at the peak what was the most like five women Real Talk he was selling dope what was

Audihe doing no no um he was living off SSI and just basically had his stuff before yeah

Audidisabled or right correct he had um mental problems oh so he would he would they weren't even y'all weren't even having sex with him y'all were just living with him but I mean I mean it's to say it's cold in Minnesota so I get it you know what

PriyaI'm saying I understand Winters get long yeah this was an older man I'm assuming correct was it a cult no no he was an old dude who just paid for a house and a bunch of girls just

Audistayed at the house he was getting you said he was on disability correct but what I will say is that I don't go places that I can provide pretty good for myself except financially except

Michael Sartainfinancially documentary documentary about this with the wheelchairs yeah right there he's got five girls living with him

Michael Sartainliving on Social Security I would pay to see every episode how old were you when you did that I'm starting out in like 19. okay

Audium really care for the people in the house that I'll say I never had a man cook for me this man cooked for every woman in the house three meals a day wait he had six five five women in the house and he was paying for the house

Audioff maybe he was a good cook I don't know did you guys have to pay mom cook bomb I never I had I have never been vegan my whole life I've never been vegan he was vegan yes he's vegan my favorite food used to be chicken

Audiwings chicken wings I would eat chicken wings every single day but I started when I moved in there they could begin well you were eating chicken wings every single day that's my favorite food yes from KFC or were you making it yourself

Audioh I can't cook chicken I can't fry very good Chick-fil-A no no not Chick-fil-A like B-Dubs Wingstop although they're like you know what you gotta try some places those are like the average like

Audianybody can go to Wingstop veto like the chain restaurants yeah like spicy wings I like to try out the hottest wings so yes when you stop only like Atomic you know what I'm saying like I like more

Brian Atlaslike a little more like um I'm just now I don't even want to talk about dating I want to talk about your

Brian Atlaseating habits so every day every day you would eat chicken wings I used to yeah you're not exactly like every every day some days for two meals for real for

Audibreakfast you'd have chicken wings but my body is depleted yes I got addicted to Hot Sauce because one of the one of the people that invented some of the hottest peppers they used to be addicted um to heroin so they started

Audimanufacturing manufacturing the hottest peppers they would go out and you know that it was a the kicker it would be because the hottest Foods throw you off your senses so that feeling I um

Brian Atlasso so you're saying that in order to detox from heroin people got on Peppers correct okay can we this actually might be true

Audiso the chicken wing was more the way to get the hot sauce you know what I'm saying it was just like a delivery method for the hot sauce but what was the transition like from eating chicken wings multiple meals a day to becoming

Brian Atlasvegan it was good if the vegan food wasn't good the vegan vegan food was busting so I did not mind at all welcome to the whatever Food Network where are we okay um let's get back to the relationship

Brian Atlasstuff okay so you're living in a house with a dude there were the five five other women um were you all were you all no but she said no nobody nobody was

Audithem some people were but some not you but you but you see the thing is is um it's people people were looking for different things so if you came into the house everyone was very respectful like if you was looking for an intimate

Audirelationship sexually you know there'd be people in the house that would fancy you whatever but so were you paying to live here no no not at all did the girl

AudiI was making my my album there and I was um doing all my music my art and doing it I was learning how to um mix and master sure record I did that I learned

Priyaall that to do myself so what so what was in it for this man that was housing all of you women if there was no having a bunch of females around like here Hefner it's like Minnesota Playboy

Michael SartainI've been to the Playboy Mansion several times it's not like that there's no social security check you haven't already making no chicken wings it's not like that it's not anything like that it's moving every night with 17

Brian AtlasPlaymates that's what the cue happens but somebody is shaking their leg the tall table is there an earthquake going on the whole table I just asked whoever's like vibrating oh I feel that too man yeah well how crazy would that

Andreabe we've had an earthquake that's just crazy okay whatever all right uh what about you uh my date my dating life um so okay current relationship status

Andreacurrently I'm single and I've always been in relationships and if I wasn't in a relationship I was dating but I I really enjoy dating um just like going out and meeting

Andreapeople and getting to know them and usually you can do really fun stuff with a guy that you can't do with like a woman like romantic stuff you know um that you can't just do with your girlfriend so even if I'm single I'm

Michael Sartainalways dating and hanging out with guys that sounds bad but in the most innocent way I'm sure the audience will understand completely what you're saying no they won't how long have you been

Andreasingle uh six months six months okay what was your longest relationship um probably I was on and off with a guy for about six seven years and then we broke up and then I was actually

Brian Atlasrecently married for the last two years and divorced and now I'm single single for the last time okay divorcing yeah my divorce today did you divorce him or did

Andreahe divorce you I think it was me that called it off but it was he oh my God you know how men I asked like the smallest things like he would never check the mail like I know it sounds kind of ridiculous but like one day I

Brian Atlasjust lost it like we had been living together for two years and please just go grab the mail wait so hold on hold on just a point of clarification so I mean I I asked perhaps the reasons why you divorced him and the first thing that

Andreacame to mind was he failed at getting the mail yeah it's those little things right like um he would never change the bed sheets like I would have to never get married

Andreayou know it's like typical like he would I guess just assume because I'm like I think that was an abusive relationship yeah it sort of is even though it's that was really abusive can I ask would you

Audisay that was just the wrong person because if to me if it was the right person the little things is not hard at all like even even if you forgot or didn't do it day in day again it was

Andreajust the wrong person I have a different question did you uh entertain the thought of seeing another man before you got divorced uh no you weren't with anybody even if I was like upset about the mail or what I

Priyanever thought like oh I wanted to so what was it at the same time what was it other than just the mail because nobody gets the worst uh for that reason so I think we're trying to get it the

Andreaunderlying um I guess it was just everything no ambition I guess that was okay and that leads to smaller things right like not doing the laundry as much or not doing chores or little things around the house

Andreait bothered me so much when we would go to his like mother's house and we'd have to bring like a gift like it was it fell on my shoulders like I didn't like those roles where it was like the woman that you know makes the gift all pretty and I'd have to go buy it and make you know

Andreaput the effort and he would just show up and can I ask why you would marry him then um these were kind of minor things that don't seem big at first and then slowly as you get to know the person more was

Brian Atlashe employed yes well you said he wasn't you said he wasn't ambitious what if you don't mind me asking what was his career uh like worked retail or like in

Andreawarehouses he didn't really have so much a career as kind of was he about your age yeah he was he was four at the time but I in mind we were together most of the time during covid so that also you're not able to

Andreasee the full person right like he wasn't working when we first met because of covid and okay so yeah but now I'm single and happy okay so you were the breadwinner yeah in

Andreathe relationship okay did you uh did you have to end up pay paying him alimony no no you weren't together long enough uh no I don't really know if it

Andreaapplies because we just were very that's the thing we never fought at the end to just split each okay went our own way so I don't even know what he was

Andazaum illegally it was amicable yeah okay all right fair enough okay uh what about you I am newly single um my longest relationship was four years four years

Brian Atlasuh when you say newly single what was it yeah today two months oh two months ago okay who broke up with who um he cheated on me so good times yeah love that for me

Andazaum yeah that was the end of that yeah so how'd you find out oh you'd love to know um

Andazahe's from Jersey um walked in on it because I had like there we go walked in on it walked in on it yeah um yeah caught shorty on the corner so like he he thought you're gonna be gone for a little while oh yeah okay so what

Andazahappened exactly there um yeah so I was babysitting at the time and I had work later that night but he texted me he missed me I'm like you just saw me an hour ago you never text me you miss me let me see how much you really that's what that's what they like we

Andazalike to text right when we change am I crazy or am I always right yeah exactly so I pulled up walked in his room shorty on the corner of his bed and his sweatpants that I bought him oh yeah but yeah but maybe she had a flat tire or something

Andazaum no I took her for a ride I was like tell me what's going on she gives me the Spiel and now what does this feel what would he tell her oh so I was he was like oh he said you guys aren't together because you're moving to La next month

Andazayou know it took me a minute to get this all together because I'm like wait the next day I whooped her ass because it was like wait he said I was moving next month it's this month I'm all on his Instagram page my clothes are in his room and you just twirling your hair on

Andazahis bed so yeah I ended up whooping her ass and then I moved to LA so so it works out for everyone yeah except her yeah basically did you were you living together at the time or no oh no no we live like five minutes down the street from each other I don't know why

AndazaI told my soul mate lived in my hometown but they don't ask a question yeah um why would you beat the girl's ass oh okay boom I'm so glad you asked that because I whooped his ass first right so

Andazathen so the next day like I said I realized she played in my face she lied to me about them having sex said she didn't know we were together she liked the post of us that he just posted what does she owe to you oh oh nothing but you lied to me even when I asked you

Andazastraight away it was going to resort to physical violence oh absolutely get touched

Andazawhat would you do um be civil and take it up with the man that I'm in a relationship with but then what if you went to the other woman and you were like she doesn't owe me anything oh so you just let people disrespect you no I think

Andazatripping over um somebody that don't want you you're tripping over it wasn't tripping over him I don't do well with disrespect baby girl so it's like you're not about to disrespect me and not get beat up but she doesn't know you

Brian Atlasenough to respect you no she notices she knows did she know you no I didn't know we didn't know each other at all did she know that you the uh your boyfriend was in a relationship

Andreayes oh she knew oh yeah absolutely but she didn't know you yeah okay so I guess I made it okay right some women get off on being the other woman like they enjoy

Kellybringing value yeah a lot of women literally bleach off of like men who have girlfriends just so they can feel the the void of like oh I stole your man yeah which women do you guys hang around

Mia Lynnbecause a lot of women that's not the type of women I hate my life no I'm from New York that's why she's from New York City yeah I'm from New York City Bronx Brooklyn Brooklyn

EileenaOkay you're from Brooklyn you don't think about throwing hands absolutely no absolutely not wait show of hands here yes like she's never had her hands on I'm sure but that's why she doesn't know did

Eileenayou ask me oh are you you got something to say you didn't ask me so you're just making assumptions but yeah but you first of all we came on here and they said that we don't need to be like coming at each other and you over here getting very personal

Eileenaassumption that's all about her putting hands on people like later

Brian Atlasokay just show of hands here show of hands guys if you were in that situation that she was in you walk in on your boyfriend getting everyone's getting beat up everybody everybody

Brian Atlasyour mom better not be in the room that's all I'm saying I want a show of hands do you okay show of hands first do you just walk away show of hands if you just you walk away you move on oh

Eileenaokay y'all never been in this situation before now hold on some more options here's some more options or something I don't know what's going on or here's here's option two do you start whooping on the dude

Mallorythat's that's option b I option C did you stop start whooping on the chick and then option D you start whipping on everything can I give another option you pretend like you

Mallorydon't know and then cheat on his friend yeah

Andazayeah okay but you don't know until you're in that situation the first day I did walk away I didn't beat her ass till the next day when I sat with my thoughts and really thought

Andazaabout what I was about to do I'm small so I can't really fight people so but yeah I fight really violence is not good either like oh absolutely I'm not a fighter so it just like

Andazasomething came over me yeah it was the next day when she was like yeah I'm done with him and I pulled up to the bar that he goes to and she hopped out his car so is that not worthy you lied to my

Brian Atlasface told me you was done with him and then you hopped out the car with him so it's not I don't know that's I don't know so you her up basically oh yeah did wait did you I forgot if you mentioned this

Andazadid you also go for the guy too oh yeah of course okay double whammy did he just take it yeah he had to like what are you gonna do like oh my god with me good times oh

TTS Readerokay yeah donated 100. my sprinkler goes like this [Laughter]

Unknownover it that's a Beat um

Brian Atlaswhat what wait it's cut off there's no foul it's supposed to be there's no there's no vowel so it didn't work uh okay that's too bad okay well what about you uh relationship situations um I'm in a relationship currently okay

Brian Atlashow long have you been in that relationship um two years two years okay rock and roll uh what about you I am taken and for six years all right six years rock

Mia Lynnand roll what about you um I'm currently dating um platonically and um I have my longest relationship was you are daily platonically like

Mia Lynnphysically there's no intimacy yeah so your Ace no no not at all but but like we're in the beginning stages

Brian Atlasit's just one dude no two okay do they know do they know it's two okay well because they know now yes oh okay so you you're not intimate with either of these two gentlemen yes but you're dating both

Mia Lynnof them yeah we're like yeah beginning to like know each other and you're a dating recording more so

Brian Atlasoh yeah

Brian Atlaseven though the person

Mia Lynngood um wait so okay you're dating I'm committed to either of them but they know yeah that's not my like it was not my idea I'm very okay with like dating

Mia Lynnmen that want to be with other women and like sure I'm okay with like taking it slow before we make any sort of commitment to each other and waiting to see if we have a bond before we're intimate sure so it could be funny to some people but I consider it as

Kellyself-respect wait so are you a dating coach or relationship coach or because isn't that ironic that no that's just the way I date there's different types of dating styles for everybody why do you think you're

Kellyqualified to give dating advice and relationship advice if you're not really in a traditional relationship well I've been in three monogamous relationships

Mia Lynnin my life I don't know if can I not get cut off before I talk and finish my sentence thank you what was your question again my question was why do you feel like you are qualified to give relationship and dating advice but you're not in a relationship

Mia Lynnyourself um because I've been in relationships before I grew up around concentric circles that involved men I grew up with men in my family I

Mia Lynnsurrounded myself basically with men I was like the girly girl in the group of men that would have to partake in male activities and um I feel like I have an insight to men and an insight to women

Mia Lynnthat I can sort of bring together and to make sort of a full picture for men so so what would you be like your best dating advice right now there's no singular piece of advice everyone's life and journey is different it depends on where they're at and what's going on

Brian Atlaswith them and what their values and moral systems are and their belief systems and it's about taking it as upon an individual basis on what they need wait so okay hold on just sure uh so you're seeing two guys how how long have

Mia Lynnyou been seeing both of them couple weeks couple months or a couple like a couple weeks for one well let's see it's July I'm dating like one guy who's

Michael SartainCatholic that I met at church um and then one guy that I met around my area in Williamsburg okay who lives in Arizona used to be ghetto it's not

Mia Lynnghetto anymore it's so gentrified yeah no it's yeah 20 years ago I wouldn't be around I know are they they're aware of each other they just know that you're dating other people yeah we there's an agreement that like since

Mia Lynnthere's no commitment right now that like it's just the dating do these guys know each other's IG one of them doesn't really even use IG I'm a red flag right there there's a

Brian Atlasvideo oh no well okay just me personally if if I knew a girl was seeing another dude well even if there's not been a conversation about commitment at least for me that's what I've lost interest yeah for sure

Mia Lynnwhile they're waiting to see if it works out with you well to to be fair yeah yeah that we're it's like consensual on all sides so now now if you got into a relationship with one of them could they still see other girls yeah I would let

Mia Lynnthat happen Okay so you really say that happened recently polygeny is that what you're looking for are you exclusive to them yes absolutely so she's saying a poligenous relationship yeah as a matter of fact when I wrote about my relationship status when I came into the Pod I said I was dating but only

Mia Lynnsleeping with one person at the time that's changed

Brian Atlaswell you had three there was the dude you're sleeping with and then the two dudes Who You'd not been sleeping with yes basically okay

Brian Atlaswhy why were you not satisfied with the one dude who you were I was um he was actually um he wanted you to see other dudes or no

Mia Lynnokay but you were no but like not at the same time there was like a cut off and then I started okay so you were close together enough you were just with him but then that ended then you started seeing two dudes correct Kelly it

Kellysounded like you had something you wanted to uh add there it's I I just thought it was ironic that like it's just so like I was just confused I was it was a little yeah you kind of came at me there I don't know why yeah you guys

Mia Lynnare sitting right next to each other I know I don't know why I don't know why it just sounded a little complicated yeah it is complicated there's a little complexity to it that happens in relationships that's quite normal all right Kelly what about you your uh

Kellysituation um I've been in a relationship for a year and six or seven seven months now okay Mike what about you uh been a

Michael Sartainrelationship since last October uh it's uh and my girlfriend is significantly younger than me uh but it's worked out pretty well she helps out with the business and uh she understands my lifestyle and yeah this worked out pretty well

Michael Sartainokay yeah so I didn't know when I met her she was like yeah I graduated college or graduate high school blah blah blah and we met I was hosting a bikini pageant in uh Mexico and she was one of the finalists and she uh she did

Michael Sartainnot uh I could just tell she wasn't like I could I thought she was the hottest girl there but I knew she wasn't gonna win because she had she had a boob job and because those girls just don't do well in pageants and also because uh she did not like deal with from the

Michael Sartainuh from the judges so I was like I'd know that this is gonna work out she's from Arkansas I'm from Texas so I just kind of worked out there and she's uh yeah she's been great since then I will say this I want to talk because I was talking about this before she had uh

Michael Sartainthe uh birth control thing taken out totally different bro totally there's something I want to talk about later different part yeah totally different she had the birth control thing taken

Michael Sartainout like uh maybe uh in June man that all that before it was theoretical I'm telling you right now this is for Real the birth control thing makes bro I mean it's just so it's a night and day so yeah you keep going like this the

Michael Sartainone right here in the inside and when I feel it

Brian AtlasI was holding her hand when they pull that thing out of it like Haley is all bleeding all over Wait So Pro when she was on birth control she was one way after they got it got taken out your personality change yeah and what so in what ways how was she before how was

Michael Sartainshe so before I remember she's 24 years younger than me and so there's a there's a thing where like I'm I'm a US military there's also the part where I'm a US military officer and I run my own company and so the way I communicate with my employees and the guys who were

Michael Sartainin my Squadron was very different I'm very direct I would not communicate I look at you I speak very loudly there's pauses in between the words and for her she's from Arkansas and they just you know they've talked some you know and when when when she got the thing out

Michael Sartainlike the highs and lows just weren't there as much which I've had with every relationship I've ever been in but with her afterwards he was just she's just fun now I just can't even explain it ladies I'm before I was maybe third twenty thirty percent on this boat

Michael SartainI'm 100 on this boat get that thing taken out of your arm that thing is crazy bro I can't believe how did like it is totally and it wasn't just her it was just I had a panel with eight girls on my show uh access Vegas and I said how many of you guys have had birth control all of them raiser and how many

Michael Sartainyou had taken out all of them raised their hand and they're like What's the difference it's like I took it out I'm healthier I'm hornier like all this stuff happened when they took the birth control thing out so that's the thing I recommend that uh that ring you know what I'm talking about maneuvering no

Priyait's not it's a ring uh not natural cycles is it yeah it's essentially like a natural way to track your yes yeah it could track a hormone cycle I got friends that have been doing it for

Michael Sartainyears it's it's great copper IUD uh so the problem is uh inflammation yeah it basically just causes inflammation there's not hormonal though they could actually grow into the cervix and then you have to have it surgically

Priyaremoved and then I've had problems having kids afterwards yeah I've had many friends and family members that have not been able to have children after um did not know that okay isn't there a new one that got well I think there's two things that recently

Brian Atlasgot approved when it comes to birth control there's one that's actually over the counter now that got approved which is just a hormonal one and then there's one called smexy or something has anyone heard that the smexy one is that the like the it's

Priyalike the yeah the gel where do you put the gel there are certain things that you can do like pre-sex to like act as birth control they're not as

Priyaum as effective as hormonal birth control but okay um what about you relationship stuff I am single I've been so for almost a year

Brian Atlasnow my longest relationship it was five months long EST was five months okay and I mean you were you were on the show about three weeks four weeks ago yep any

Brian Atlasnew developments on the uh any guys sliding into the DMS any nope nothing

Brian Atlasuh not particularly okay rock and roll okay so uh a lot of you actually you know what I think the first thing we're gonna do Nick we have a

Brian Atlasvideo that we must React to what wait what was that oh hold on um two flannels donated one hundred

TTS Readerdollars Brian I am back I see nothing has changed so I will repeat what I said last you wear the same two flannels everything if you were a rapper they'd

TTS Readercall you two flannels does you look like you're stuck in the 90s Pearl Jam music video wish Eddie Vedder uh thank you man yeah thank you yeah actually I have like three flannels and you roasted me last

Andreatime should we talk about your your dress code Brian my uh I dress for Comfort I like the flannel what's wrong with flannel yeah there we go I don't mind quality over quantity

PriyaI said this last time I don't mind it for like lounging around and when you're wanting to be comfortable he told me that this is what he would wear on a date though and I have a little bit of an issue with her what's wrong with that you are comments

Priyawait what's wrong with planets well like if you're going on a more formal date then you know do you button

Priyait up or do you keep it open I'll keep it open sweatpants [Music]

Michael Sartainhe's actually overdressed for a Los Angeles nightclub you guys realize that right it's actually too formal for a club and I don't I've never been to an L.A in that class I'll take you you tell me you tell me when I'll take you

Brian Atlaswherever you want to go anywhere you want yeah okay well hey what about all the the men in the chat would you guys like if I was wearing this on a day with any one of you like would you guys be

Brian Atlascool with it or what tell me in the chat okay cool cool um can you pull up the video please okay so we're gonna react to this uh this was on it came up in my Tick Tock feed uh

Brian Atlasgo ahead and play it let's see if the bars oh hold up pause pause pause pause okay scroll back you gotta put in the video tab

Brian Atlasuh you gotta oh we're okay then you gotta click one of the it's probably the top one top one top one top one top one the very top very

Brian Atlastop very top yep hide that one okay go ahead and start start it from the beginning screwed yep let's see if the bars on the floor this is the bare minimum for dating me number one asked me to be his

TTS/Video Audiogirlfriend literally bare minimum we go on dates we can hang out if you do not ask me to be your girlfriend some kind of a gesture big or small I'm not your girlfriend I am not your girlfriend and I can be singing more more number two

TTS/Video Audiobuys me flowers often often for me bare minimum meaning once a month or at least once every like two months I'm like a self-care romanticize my life kind of girl so if you do not buy me flowers I will be buying myself flowers it doesn't

TTS/Video Audiohave to be like a huge bouquet of like 10 000 roses or whatever it doesn't matter how big the bouquet is every single time I just care to know that you're not only gonna buy me followers once just because I'm a girlfriend and like you secured the deal like I'm gonna

TTS/Video Audioneed flowers like every so often you're not getting away with like one flower per year picks me up and drops me off at home unless otherwise stated if we're going somewhere I do not care if your house is like inconvenient you're going to pick

TTS/Video Audiome up and you're gonna drop me off like a proper gentleman unless I'm already right next to the area that we're gonna meet in you're gonna have to pick me up and drop me off you should be caring about my safety okay and just so you know if your boyfriend's only coming to

TTS/Video Audiopick you up and drop you off if it's convenient to him that is not love the people who love you don't only do things because it is convenient to do so number four offers to pay for every activity and doesn't expect me to do 50 50. not

TTS/Video Audioto say that I'm never gonna buy you anything or that I'm never going to offer to pay for a meal but if you are expecting me to pay if you are literally expecting me to like pay her car is just showing up then you got the wrong girl

TTS/Video Audiolike I'm sorry I can't do it there are girls who like 50 50 just not me all over part two tell me if my sanders are too hot are her standards

Eileenatoo high let's start with you we'll go around the table go ahead uh no I don't think they're too high she's honestly not asking for much and everyone has their own list of what their bare

Eileenaminimum is and I think it's cool that she has a list and it's good to have standards for dating because if you take dating seriously then you have standards

Eileenaso uh nothing she was asking for was that crazy

Audievery person has different standards and expectations but most of the time in dating what people do is they choose a few qualities that we like in each other and then throw away the rest and we want that person to be those qualities all the

Auditime but we'd be dating the whole person with all the qualities so if you have those standards that's okay but you can't be picking somebody and then trying to choose their qualities

Andreawith something she said and some not I I personally can't stand flowers so like and I know that's like really traditional I do agree with the he should not expect the 50 50 but you know

Andrealife is not black and white each person's an individual they have their own thoughts but um yeah and the driving thing a lot of women now they don't like being picked up for a first date because in case they

Michael Sartainhave to leave so and I kind of get the sense she wants more traditional men but sometimes I don't agree with it they gotta get back to their man you know what I'm saying during the day I'm a man just texted me I gotta go back so they drove themselves that's you know yeah well it's interesting that she you did

Brian Atlasmention the getting picked up and dropped off thing but she also mentions safety but I mean well if she knows the guy I suppose it's fine but certainly for a first date well you know a lot of women would not be comfortable for example going over to

Brian Atlasthe guy's house immediately without having well some some have no problem with it but um a lot of women would not just first time ever meeting go to the guy's house in that same vein I don't think

Brian Atlasshouldn't you also feel a bit concerned about getting into a total stranger's car so I I actually think the for safety reasons the best thing is to meet the guy there even if that's not traditional

Brian Atlassafety Wise It's actually probably the best move to just meet the guy there but I suppose she's talking about the boyfriend yeah she's definitely talking about being in a relationship not well she's talking about the transition into a relationship remember because she said

Eileenayou're not my boyfriend until you say this yeah I was just talking about like someone that she wants to keep seeing you know this wasn't like anything to do with like just first date status yeah that's well that's a great point but you know the other thing is though if she

Michael Sartainwasn't attracted to the dude none of that matters yeah that matters right she if a guy she goes on a date with a guy and he's not attracted to her he goes I want you to be my girlfriend she'll be like get the away from me like all all the things she just said

Michael Sartainthey don't matter but because that's the thing when women say I want to make uh I want a man to buy me flowers no you want a guy who's you're attracted to to buy you flowers if a who is you're not attracted to buys you flowers you'll be it's you have to have status

Michael Sartainbefore you give status and that's why whenever I hear women say this stuff like it like ever if guys if you open some guy's gonna watch that and open up by like just sending her flowers when she's not attracted that is a horrible mistake yeah showing vulnerability

Eileenabefore you have attraction it's like putting in effort before you even know for sure exactly yeah wrong with putting in effort before knowing you guys I feel like sometimes it's cool to put the effort because you never know got it but have you have you ever seen a guy and just been attracted to him and then

Michael Sartaingoing on a date with him and it gone really well that night has that ever happened like yeah so but you understand that now the guy who's sitting there putting in effort he you have you hooked up with a dude who just because you were attracted off the bat and now this guy's

Eileenagot to put in effort do you understand how he might not want to put in effort totally but like we're talking about this is like a relationship thing so this is all pertaining to not hypotheticals pertaining to someone she wants to pursue she's talking about

Eileenasomeone that she wants to pursue and what she expects of someone that she will also also wants to pursue we're not talking about not someone you don't want you to like be giving you flowers she's literally talking about already being in

Mallorythat step of like we like each other this is what I expect from us being in a mutuality what if she decides later on she's like oh never mind I don't that's why but that's not what but that's not fine

Michael SartainI saw this video as a transition into a relationship that's what I saw the video as would she throw out all of those if he was attracted to the person yeah

Michael Sartainwhenever whenever I hear a woman emphatically stay over and over again how she will not sleep with a guy on the first date that tells me emphatically she has slept with a guy on the first stage why else are you saying this like I see this all the time it's like again like if you are someone who just knows

Michael SartainI'm going to sleep with somebody when I'm ready to sleep with him you aren't even going to bring that up right as men we don't bring it up but why do women bring it up because you did sleep with Brock the bartender on your first date because you did go out with a male stripper and slept with him on the first date and then the next guy you date he's

Michael Sartaingot to wait but it's different for him because he's not as attractive and the thing is from those guys standpoint they don't want to be the one to wait when you let some other dude smash on the first date that's the problem you see what I'm saying that's issue that's just that's a different point of view I'm not saying that that's what she's saying

Michael Sartainhere obviously we're assuming that both people are attracted the thing is when men watch this they get confused and they start thinking when she describes these things that are Comfort Builders she's described what she's doing is describing Comfort she's not describing

Michael Sartainattraction she's saying I'm already attracted to you these are the things that I need you to do so that I can gain Garner some control in the relationship what I found is this is just it's a very generalistic way to say this but things that build attraction that when women

Michael Sartainfind men more attractive the woman is sort of losing power like just again he makes more money he's very good looking he gets a six-pack all of a sudden and other women are staring at him she's sort of losing power and things that where he's building Comfort the dad bod

Michael Sartainyou know the dad bod myth those are things where a woman is gaining power so when women she when she states every single one of those things she's gaining power she's not paying 50 50 anymore he's going to pick her up and all the things she describes she's gaining power those are not attraction qualities

Michael Sartainattraction qualities where women are generally losing power and in a comfort qualities are thing or generally where men are gaining power and or where women are gaining power and so when you ask women what they find attractive they describe what they find comfortable

Michael Sartainwhich is why you hear girls say I like the dad bod which is a lie over and over again no you don't you do not choose short-term sexual partners with a deadline what you do though is

Michael Sartainyou see really rich successful actors or people like Elon Musk with the dad by and you're like oh that's sexy no it's sexy because he's already famous it's just like if a regular dude goes around wearing a pink dress like Machine Gun Kelly he looks like a fool he's a he's a

Michael Sartainwearing a pink dress but Machine Gun Kelly is famous he can wear a pink dress because he's famous the rest of you just look like a clown wearing a pink dress so that's the difference you cannot give value unless you have value and a lot of times women open up by

Michael Sartainsaying send me flowers tell me you're my girlfriend all this kind of stuff and that's the problem you can't you can't open that one just one sec when Brian asked who would resort to physical violence if they caught their

TTS Readerman cheating and who would just walk away all the masculine girls raised their hand for violence slash fighting and The Feminine girls raised their hands for walk away preach and some

Brian Atlasgirls didn't raise their hand at all I'm mask and films so I can switch it real quick yo John God thank you very much for that hundred I mean not my personal view on on that situation is I

Brian Atlasthink the biggest thing you can do is just

Kellyand you're literally like seeing it right in front of your face that's like it's it's hard to just you know just be like bye but you're gonna see it you're gonna see it in front of your face and you're gonna react like that you're not gonna have a

Michael Sartainyeah and it's an initial reaction of anger that is just gonna trigger you and if like I wouldn't say that applies to everybody though yeah no but I will tell you this in the state of Texas before I think

Michael Sartain1983 if you killed your wife and and her lover if you caught them in the throes of passion I think you were convicted of third degree murder and had to serve zero time in jail I do believe

Michael SartainI said base yeah I believe that is again I think they've changed that law but at one point if you had caught your wife sleeping with some other dude and you kill them before that I mean if you go back even further in the state of Texas they didn't that wasn't even that wasn't

Kellyeven that wasn't even second yeah well I mean if you were if you were to walk in on your girlfriend smashing another dude and it was your house you know there'll be a problem and I'm sure you would not just walk out

Mia Lynnthat's why that's why don't cohabitate with women um I was gonna say like I mean I totally understand what you're saying like that blind rage you walk in like like who's anyone to tell you how

Mia Lynnto respond to that situation when you're being so disrespected in a this way in front of your face it's still domestic violence like that's just that and it's

Mia Lynnnot okay either way and like getting your anger up with violence means that you need to sort yourself through and have some respect for yourself not to beat up a grown ass man I mean a lot of people like you know do things to sort

Kellytheir violence I don't I feel like that's not like some people yell and scream some people cry some people shoot guns some people go swimming some people do a lot of people do a lot of bunch of stuff to like control their anger right but we don't we we don't like like it

Mia Lynndoesn't make them as a society we don't like accept that as okay we accept that as like human reactions and responses but as humans we also have the power of self-control so apply that logic to men

Mia Lynnright yes absolutely absolutely I mean I wouldn't expect a man to go beating on his girl if he walked in on her and I'm sure you guys wouldn't either so not

Mia Lynnyeah I'm seeing some like I was like laughed at earlier for talking about you know how I'm a dating and I give dating advice but also I'm like experiencing myself but like this is domestic violence we're talking about and you're

Eileenalike oh but it's anger and rage it's like we're not talking about domestic violence we're talking about so domestic violence not putting your hands on first of all this is in the house

Eileenalike I got it like with you know it's not like it's like no one's dictated by one thing that happened in her life it's not gonna be like okay this person beats someone up every single time so like I broke up she's done my partner

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Mia LynnI just said I give dating advice from men that come to me and want it and see what I provide and they come to me and they all right can we go to somebody else

Mia Lynnwithout anyone asking no it's not even been in a relationship my girl so what are you talking about genuinely

Mia LynnI don't agree with violence hitting your partner regardless of the gender sex whatever it's not okay to hate your partner whether it's in the streets or in the home you have to have some self-respect and walk away and understand that that guy didn't respect

Eileenayou or that girl didn't respect you and this is all coming from a 26 year old relationship Tick Tock Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed let's go next one in my bed did you not listen to

Eileename say that I'm platonic uh listen to me say I don't care hey do you all ever think about death black that's black like where do we go yeah like honestly

Andrealike what happened wait I will say I raised my hand when I said that I would have walked away if I caught my dude hooking up with a girl but this like brought back like a deep

Andreamemory when I was about 17 years old I had my first relationship I went out to the club and who do I see making out on the wall my boyfriend was some girl and I lost my yeah

AndreaI was inebriated and I was so immature and I don't think I would do that these days yeah so would you consider that you live seeing her man at the club kissing another girl and her doing something

Mia Lynnabout it yes absolutely if you're putting your hands on other person that you're dating it's domestic violence I don't know what more clearer like definition but okay hold on wait wait hold on hold on let me let me just play it

Brian Atlasyeah actually maybe we should hold on let me play Devil's Advocate a little bit here though like is there no such thing as provocation because someone

Brian Atlascould plausibly do something so vile that yeah even if they don't put hands on you but say like they they say something like is there there must be something this is a great point so we

Michael Sartaintalk about this so I would I would never hit a woman and then somebody said to me okay somebody has your nephew uh with a knife to their to their throat I'm gonna beat the out of whoever I don't care if you're a man or woman and

Michael Sartainthey're like oh so you would do it and I just thought there's a limit for everything okay what she's talking about though is domestic violence for sure I will say this uh because you guys are talking about women and women as men it doesn't make I'm not from a moralistic

Michael Sartainstandpoint I wouldn't hit a woman but from a legal standpoint it we don't get the benefit of the doubt so no matter what happens no matter who I hit I'm gonna end up getting sued even if I'm completely in the right because that's the way the legal code is written so I I

Brian Atlaswouldn't do any of that let's let's do go ahead and Rule always hold on let's do this okay we've already talked about the whole cheating beating out of your spouse whatever let's bring it back to the video so I think we left off with

AndazaI forgot who who did you get to give your take no I did not um we'll take on the video I'm gonna assume she has this list um because it's from experience from her past relationships and it's like what

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