CAT FIGHT! Heated Debate About CHEATING?! | Dating Talk #87

Date: 2023-07-26

Duration: 5h 38m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EEileena (DT87)>

AAudi Drip (DT87)>

AAndrea (DT87)>

AAndaza (DT87)>

RRosanna Pfeiffer >

MMallory (DT87)>

MMia Lynn (DT87)>

MMichael Sartain >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_03Rosanna Pfeiffer(guest)

SPEAKER_04Eileena(guest)

SPEAKER_05Mia Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andaza(guest)

SPEAKER_07Michael Sartain(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS/Video Audio(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_11Audi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mallory(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMichael Sartain introduces himself: retired USAF captain, MOA founder, 45yo, hosts Michael Sartain Podcast and Access Vegas

“"my name is Michael Sartain I'm a retired US Air Force captain of little KC-135 uh as a navigator and I did special ops and I did counter Intel for a while and now I'm the founder of the men of action mentoring program... I'm 45"”

QuoteAndaza reveals she walked in on her boyfriend cheating and physically fought him and the other woman

“"There we go walked in on it walked in on it yeah... caught shorty on the corner so... he thought you're gonna be gone for a little while... yeah I ended up whooping her ass and then I moved to LA"”

QuoteMichael Sartain explains that removing birth control implant dramatically improved his girlfriend's personality and mood

“"she had the birth control thing taken out... totally different bro totally... the birth control thing makes bro... it's just so... it's a night and day"”

QuoteTikTok "bare minimum" dating standards video played — woman lists: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything

“"this is the bare minimum for dating me number one asked me to be his girlfriend... number two buys me flowers often... picks me up and drops me off... offers to pay for every activity and doesn't expect me to do 50 50"”

ControversyEileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating coach, calling her a "26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice with two men in her bed"

“"This is all coming from a 26 year old relationship Tick Tock Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"”

ControversyMia Lynn tells Eileena "I don't care" and defends her right to give dating advice based on relationship experience

“"in my bed did you not listen to me say that I'm platonic... listen to me say I don't care"”

QuoteMichael Sartain presents stat that average US male height is 5'9" and only ~14% of men are over 6ft

“"the number of men the percentage of men over six feet tall... four percent... it's crazy... five nine yeah... the number of men... 14 percent over six feet tall"”

QuoteBrian asks panel to rate their physical looks 1-10; Eileena and Audi declare themselves 10+/off-the-scale

“"ask everyone to write their looks on a schedule of one to ten so you can't be like all my my personality I'm going to I'm a 10 out of 10... they'd be calling me Alicia Keys on there"”

QuoteBrian explains he sometimes does not pay on first dates as a screening tool and principle (does not want to feel like a sucker)

“"there are women that will string you along... keep securing attention... you'll pay for her... I'm not going to pay so when someone's your girlfriend then I will fall into... if you're committed to me then I will"”

QuoteMia Lynn reveals her body count is 11 (including kissing and penetrative sex)

“"I include like people in my body count that have like kissed penetrative sex 11 people 11 people"”

QuoteMia Lynn recounts a date with a diplomat's son who used his dead father as a reason to sleep with her

“"he was like um you want to go back to my place and I was like uh no I think I'm just gonna go home and he was like but my dad but my dad died and I was like oh... that is like the last thing you want to say to a girl"”

QuoteMichael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA — Babes and Toyland for troops overseas

“"I'm hosting a charity event in Los Angeles on Thursday it's a babes and Toyland we do one every year for animal rescue... this one's gonna be for troops overseas"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens show, plugs streamlabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit/clips channels. Guests introduce themselves in order: Eileena (bartender, 24), Audi/Audi Drip (fashion designer/musician, 22), Andrea (content creator/OnlyFans, 31, Quebec Canada), Andaza (hair model/social media, 23), Rosanna Pfeiffer (nurse practitioner/model/actress, 34, Buffalo NY), Mallory (content creator/marketing, 27), Mia Lynn (internet personality/PhD student, 26, Brooklyn), Kelly (student/personal stylist, 21), Michael Sartain (MOA founder/USAF/podcast host, 45), Priya (ASU student/equestrian, 22).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Eileena: single, never had official relationship, one 4yr situationship. Audi: single since 18, career-focused, had a poly house situation at 19. Andrea: divorced after 2-year marriage, happy being single. Andaza: newly single (2 months) after cheating incident — walked in on boyfriend, fought the other woman. Rosanna: 2-year relationship. Mallory: in relationship with her Tinder match's best friend. Mia Lynn: dating two men platonically/non-exclusively (one Catholic church guy, one 22yo from Williamsburg/AZ). Kelly: 1yr 7mo relationship. Michael Sartain: relationship since Oct prior year (girlfriend 24 years younger, 21yo; met at Mexico bikini pageant). Priya: single ~1 year, on show ~3-4 weeks prior, no new developments.

Andaza's Cheating Story & Catfight Debate

Andaza tells story of walking in on boyfriend with another woman. Debate erupts over whether to fight the other woman (Andaza: yes, did it) vs. walking away (Mia Lynn, Mallory: walk away). Eileena defends fighting. Mia Lynn argues any physical violence is domestic violence. Show of hands on responses to catching partner cheating. Discussion of Texas historical law on killing spouse and lover in flagrante. Rosanna: walked in at 17 drunk at a club and reacted physically; says she would not do that now. Brian moderates, discusses provocation limits.

TikTok "Bare Minimum" Dating Standards Video Reaction

Brian plays a TikTok video of a woman listing her bare minimum dating standards: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything, no 50/50. Panel debates whether standards are too high. Eileena: not too high. Audi: standards OK but you can't cherry-pick traits. Andrea: agrees with some (not flowers, not driving). Michael Sartain: attraction precedes standards; all items are "comfort-building" not attraction-building. Follow-up clip shows what she brings to table ("peace and energy"). Discussion of what men bring vs. what women bring.

Eileena vs. Mia Lynn Clash — Dating Coach Credentials

Eileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating advisor for men given she is not in a relationship herself ("26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"). Mia Lynn defends herself: she has been in relationships, has grown through them, and advises from experience. Kelly also questioned Mia earlier at ~0:32. Mia tells Eileena to not interrupt her. Tension between them continues through episode.

Jonah Hill / Relationship Boundaries Debate

Discussion of Jonah Hill's leaked texts to ex-girlfriend about her surfing in bikini. Michael Sartain defends Hill's right to set boundaries and argues the ex was the real wrongdoer (released messages after Hill had a baby with someone else). Brian: Hill was manipulative. Debate on whether surfers wear bikinis (Brian/Sartain disagree). Discussion of whether a partner can reasonably ask the other not to post in bikinis. Mia Lynn: boundaries are OK as long as not controlling.

Red Pill / Evolutionary Psychology Discussion

Michael Sartain leads extended discussion on Dr. David Buss's 37-culture evolutionary psychology study. Topics: hypergamy, body count and pair bonding, high status vs. low status men (Sartain: they are functionally different species), why men cheat (high status men have options), women's attraction vs. comfort distinction, oxytocin bonding and body count effects on women, naturalistic fallacy (what is natural ≠ what is good). Mia Lynn and Rosanna contribute neuroscience on oxytocin/vasopressin. Discussion of Genghis Khan Y chromosome, women waiting at the finish line (Rich Cooper quote).

Women's Standards & the "Delusion Gap"

Michael Sartain presents statistics: top 1% income is ~$615K/year (most women guessed $150-400K); average US male height is 5'9"; only ~14% of men are over 6 feet tall. Discussion of women's unrealistic standards driven by exposure to high-status men (VIP hosts, bottle service). Discussion of birth control (hormonal implant removal improving girlfriend's personality). Priya and Priya discuss natural cycles tracking (fertility awareness method). Brian and Sartain discuss never paying for girls at clubs who can't afford high dates.

Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate their physical looks 1-10. Eileena: 10+/off-the-scale. Audi: 10+/off-the-scale. Andrea: 8. Rosanna: "buffalo 10" (best in Buffalo). Mia Lynn: 7 with makeup / 5 without. Michael Sartain: 6-7. Priya: declined/unclear. Discussion devolves into debate about whether beauty is objective or subjective. Brian: objective standard exists. Mia and Eileena: refuse to rate below 10. Michael Sartain: men cannot just declare value, they must earn it. Long philosophical debate on objective vs. subjective beauty standards.

Dating & First Dates — Who Pays?

Brian reveals he sometimes doesn't pay on first dates as a matter of principle and screening (low-interest women will be filtered out). Michael Sartain recommends always paying to minimize anxiety and show value. Mallory: he who asked should pay, she goes 50/50 unless overly impressed. Andrea: does the "fake reach" but hopes man pays; would hold it against a man who counts dimes. Mia Lynn: impartial, every man she's dated has paid. Rosanna: wants someone responsive and funny. Discussion of foodie calls and women who string men along. Audi: if she asked him out she would pay. Debate on whether fake-reach is entrapment.

Body Count Discussion

Brian asks body counts. Mia Lynn: 11 (includes kissing + penetrative). Andrea: 10+ (doesn't keep track, plus-or-minus 10, more than that, doesn't know). Andaza and others did not disclose clearly. Michael Sartain declines ("man of God"). Brian declines. Extended debate on whether body count matters. Michael Sartain: sticker analogy (bonding degrades after repeated partners). Rosanna: no objection to men caring, though she doesn't ask men's counts. Show of hands: most women do not object to men caring about body count. Discussion of triple-digit body count as deal-breaker (most said yes at triple digits). Sartain cites 83% of women who cheat fall in love with affair partner vs. 29% for men.

Ideal Partner Types & Preferences

Round of physical and personality preferences in a partner. Andaza: men with dreads/locks, looks hard but soft personality. Rosanna: conscientious, cares about health, creative, responsive, intelligent, funny. Mallory: 6ft+ (not required), broad shoulders, dark and handsome, ambitious, gamer-type, no race preference. Mia Lynn: slightly older (10-15 yrs), white men mostly; also dating a 22yo (cougar moment). Michael Sartain: Vegas-type body (tight, cocktail server), boob jobs OK, long hair, green/blue eyes, not deal-breakers. Mia Lynn shares story of diplomat's son who used his dead father as a move. Brian: prefers short women (4'10"-4'11"), calm/introverted, natural, no surgery, low body count, soft voice, slight preference dark hair and blue/green eyes, parents made her do violin or cello.

Closing — Announcements & Wrap

Brian announces next show: Thursday special debate edition — Destiny vs. mystery guest on mystery topic (3:30pm Pacific). Then back to Dating Talk next Sunday 7pm Pacific. Michael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA (Babes and Toyland for troops overseas). Brian explains issue with Karen downstairs neighbor complaining about noise. Thanks guests; asks everyone to exit quietly due to neighbor complaint. Show ends.

Transcript

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Andazashe wanted and didn't get or what she got and liked like so I wouldn't say her standards are too high a lot I think she just know what she wants so it's like if you you're not asking the wrong you're not asking for too much you're just asking the wrong person type thing I

Michael Sartainwould guess that she had probably did dated a guy who did none of those things and stayed in it for a while and probably tried to manipulate not manipulate but try to I'm trying to think of the word I'm looking for try to

Michael Sartainchange the situation to where he was he was monogamous and waited for him to become monogamous and those things never happened and her list comes from being super attracted to some guy who she kept going over and having sex with in the middle of the night and he wouldn't

Andazacommit I think that's probably that just a guess that's probably where that list came yeah yeah it made it so the notes some a lot of things in the notes I mean

Rosanna Pfeifferlike why would you do this you know that kind of stuff what about um you know like some other girls said I think she's allowed to ever standards I

Rosanna PfeifferI personally think it's a weird list and I think I didn't like the presentation

AudiI think we should be able to know what we want our views our morals and really should be able to say it we don't need to know this and we should have we should have boundaries for what our partner does too except except for when Jonah Hill and his abuse right except

Michael Sartainfor that abuse God not that Jonah Hill wait you guys remember all the abuse when he said when he says when he says no matter what you do I respect it

Andreayou're beautiful person and I respect oh you you forgot that same time send me take down these pictures this is appropriate this isn't right he gets he gets to break up with it yeah that's true or she gets to walk away she gets

Michael Sartainto walk away and she did but here's the thing what about his boundaries when she doesn't release the uh the the messages until after he has a baby with someone

Michael Sartainelse and then has the audacity to say I hope you have a girl you're gonna talk about my children now you think you talk about boundaries I know who the wrong person in his relationship was and

Michael Sartainit wasn't Jonah Hill agreed okay this idea the other thing is Surfers don't surf in bikinis this whole thing was well she's in a swimsuit and it's the same thing no no no no wait sorry wait look what's the thing about it

Michael Sartaincompetition Surfers do not surf at bikinis I don't know if you guys wear that that's what the only point I was making and by the way it the thing is if it doesn't make here's the thing hold on I just got one thing on that it depends

Brian Atlaswhere you're surfing yeah for her I don't think that's what she was doing so if it's wearing a wetsuit that's just about the

Brian Atlaswater temperature so and you're not like if it's a colder ocean temperature then you're gonna be in like wetsuit but like if you're in Indonesia or you're in Hawaii I think it actually at least for

Brian Atlaswomen it's fairly common uh in warmer ocean temperature to surf in the Bikini yeah or one piece even in the Bikini okay comfortable surfing like the girls come

Brian Atlasout or something like surfing's like a sport there's no way the bikinis women do surf the girls that I know where they could surf it there's no issue women do surf in bikinis but um in Southern California and she's from

Michael Sartainoh typically not but oh I I don't she can do whatever she wants my point is he has the right to it to establishment he was not manipulating her that is ridiculous isn't it like it wasn't about whether or not like professional Surfers

Brian Atlaswear swimsuits or wetsuits it was what his preferences and boundaries were so oh yeah well let's do this let's get back let's get into the Jonah thing first but I do want to give everybody a chance to react to the clip so you went

Mallorycorrect did you get to go no um I guess what she's bringing the tape to the table matters a lot so if she's asking for a lot what is she giving in return sure um also I don't feel like there's going

Malloryto be a big dating pool for rules like that um especially can you pull the microphone closer please especially if uh she has high standards for men and they don't feel like she's meeting their

Brian Atlasstandards I feel like higher standard men like that are going to have higher standards for their women you know what it's interesting that you brought up what she's bringing to the table she actually made a follow-up video of what because a lot of people in the in her in

TTS/Video Audioresponse to her Tick Tock were like well what are you bringing this is her wrists go ahead nothing I'm kidding being open to receiving yes

TTS/Video Audiogiving him little surprises because I also like getting him gifts and stuff being a peaceful place for him to relax outside of work and stressful social attractions just like being his peace

Brian Atlasbeing a supportive girlfriend and just being there with my energy so I mean okay most of the things that she just listed already

Michael Sartainthere were a couple things that were perhaps more so like the gifts was the only thing it was like no the only thing was peace that was the only thing she said right she didn't say anything right and you want to know the one thing of

Kellythat group I guarantee you she can't provide him to this Feast that is the only one she can't do well she doesn't strike me as a people how the are you gonna be peaceful when you're nagging at him telling him you have to do all this stuff or like I

Andazathink she got that list from someone else's Tick Tock um so

Mia Lynnum your reaction to the I actually had like the same exact reaction that you did I wanted to know what she was bringing to the table and like after seeing that video like I I see that like like what she's saying that she's

Mia Lynnbringing to the table is somewhat similar to what she's requesting but the whole pull like my presence my energy is enough like yeah that's that's not it that's not it your wife his presence and energy not enough right but he has to do

Michael Sartainthe extra work and then because we don't have presence and energy we work we accomplish things when we build things and we protect and we protect people that's what we do we don't really have presence or energy protect people from what protect people from the world

Michael Sartainprotect anything protect people financially protect people well like I have family members that I protect them from getting scammed all the time I have older family women can do that and they're like hey I just got a call from this guy from Jamaica who wants my bank card number protect people when they

Michael Sartainwalk to their car with that's our job the one that matters with men is that you can be like a security guard for sure that to me people say masculinity is muscles and money and sleeping with all these girls masculinity is willing

Brian Atlasto protect and die for your tribe that is important those men who stormed that beach in 1944 in France those men were masculine that's what masculinity is let me ask you a question Mike though do you think that both sides are holding up

Brian Atlastheir end of the bargain because if if it's man's duty to to die for their woman in some sort of self-defense situation do you think that the other side is holding up their ends of the bar

Michael Sartainso I've said this before there are three genders there's high high status men low status men and women High status men and low status men have nothing in common nothing they don't have the same brain chemistry they don't have the same sexual partners they don't make the same amount of money they don't have the same

Michael Sartainphysique nothing they have nothing in common literally there's a book called winter effect that goes over the Neurology of men who are successful in winning and and men who aren't and there's nothing they have nothing in common and so if you're asking me do high status men do they fall short I'll

Michael Sartaintell you no they don't but for the most part they have something going for them or they're providing something do low status men fall short well they are the one subscribing on only fans so I mean you tell me like that's that's that is the dish issue so we can't just say all

Michael Sartainmen because men bifurcate way more than women do because when I talk to older women so in my show one of the things we do is we always try to get at least one one or two people with a master's degree one or two girls that are married we try to get a different uh group and we we

Michael Sartainget the same answers it doesn't matter if they're 23 or 43 we get the same answers women generally have the same answers when it comes to their uh hypergamy whereas men they're very different answers when you're at the top the what you're saying before about catching your girl cheating a guy who's

Michael SartainHigh status is already on the phone with another girl before he even leaves the house he's like literally calling the dude an Uber to get him the out of it he doesn't care he's got the movers coming over to take her out that's

Michael Sartainwhat a high status man would do a low status man is going to create a cry and bicker and beg to her for her to come back do you see like that's not even the same species that's completely different yeah um you said that uh High

Michael Sartainstatus man really never falls short oh no no he's not that he never falls short but in one case or another he has the access to scarce resources and he has the ability uh he has the ability to Garner status so a high status man could

Michael Sartainbe like the guy who ran Enron that's a that's a very duplicitous evil High status man okay like Joseph Stalin or Pol Pot that's an example of a high status man who is very evil it doesn't mean they're all that's extra but okay

Michael Sartainno I'm hearing I'm using extreme examples yeah I'm hearing you I'm here I could use one other example you want to get us kicked off of YouTube yeah I think I know where yeah yeah okay uh but yeah but I've been doing a lot of studying this week I got I got a debate

Michael Sartaincoming up uh but no but but it was Genghis Khan oh of course of course so I'm gonna go this is a great example a Genghis Khan uh his Y chromosome so for men you can actually Trace uh the the variety and Y chromosome that's why we

Michael Sartainknow throughout history about 80 of women and only 40 percent of men have reproduced because we can we can measure the Y chromosome uh and so when you look at Genghis Khan at one point I believe

Michael Sartainit was like eight percent of all uh men that lived in uh Asia had had the same Y chromosome which was from Genghis Khan and his son couliacon back in the 15th century so like when you realize that

Michael Sartainthat's what men were doing they were conquering and that kind of thing that doesn't mean they're always good that doesn't mean they're always good if you find a good man who's also High status that's great A lot of times men are a high status they express the opportunity to cheat that doesn't mean that cheating

Michael Sartainis okay a lot of people whenever I read the David bus studies they think oh you're just quality you're saying cheating's okay no we're not saying we're not nobody's saying that cheating is okay but a lot of them do cheat and women have a hard time understanding why it why it is that happen so what they'll

Michael Sartaindo is they'll say I want a higher and higher and higher status man and then you explain to them well it's going to be a higher probability of them cheating and then they don't want to hear that they're like no they don't they don't believe that I did that like I felt like

Mia LynnI was like really judged earlier for saying that like I dated a guy that like slept with other women and I was exclusive to him but at the end of the day like no no it was it was two guys at the same time and you told them about each other that's what they were talking

Mia Lynnabout well they actually requested that like we just core and like not like like not you know do anything too serious until we get to know each other further

Mia Lynnlike that was pretty much you met two men in in Brooklyn who did one no not in Brooklyn oh oh I'm not saying they don't want to have sex but one of them is Catholic so they're a virgin they don't they won't have sex until they're

Mia Lynnmarried and the other I just have a channel on Rumble no no no I'm sorry well um so to your point about like the high status men um like well my point was low status men

Michael Sartaindon't have the ability to cheat High status men are the ones who are cheating someone I would agree with that one would say women men always cheat no it's you just keep dating the same VIP host male stripper bartender over and over again and you think that's indicative of

Michael Sartainall men and then I take you to Jack In The Box or I take you to Walmart you look at the cashier and you're like who's he and you didn't even see him you didn't even see that he was a man you can't even imagine that this man has sex with anyone so that's the thing a lot of times when women ask the

Michael Sartainquestion who are they talking about they're talking about the dude who them over and they think that's men and that's just not the way it works because there's two very very distinct classes of men did you give your reaction to the video oh yo stay

Brian Atlassafe thank you for the twitch raid man guys stay safe he's a giga Chad World of Warcraft player uh he's been on the show two times yo stay safe thank you very much for the uh raid maybe we'll talk

Brian Atlasabout World of Warcraft uh did you ever play World of Warcraft Mike uh a little bit not very much I was way way more it's a age of the Empire Age of Empires anybody here like a World of Warcraft I

Andreaplay Guild Wars I think it's that's not World of War it's the same MMORPG I already I already did it I tried it one time um but after like a couple days I wasn't into it but I like video games but I just don't like that style yeah it's

Brian Atlasfunny it's only when I'm oblivion I did everything yeah every every other game except that one yo Matt thank you for the raid man really appreciate it um I did Kelly what about you your thoughts on that video with that girl

Kellyum I think everyone's allowed to have standards I think hers were a little bit much um they're little kind of like delusional you know um I think the flowers every month is a

Kellylittle bit much because if he's doing a bunch of these other things for you if he forgets to buy you flowers this one month why is that a big deal um and a lot of it is just like how how can you ask for these things when you're

Michael Sartainnot bringing anything to the table that actually matters okay um Micah did you want to give a further take on it she has the right to say whatever she wants to say and believe that that's the that's those are her

Michael Sartainstandards she can express however the likelihood of her when a man acquiesces to those standards she states she is going to find him to be wanting that's what I would say the probability is meaning she's going to meet a guy who

Michael Sartainoff the bat says oh I watched your Tick Tock video and I'm gonna go ahead and buy you flowers every month and her vagina is going to go it's gonna dry up just like that when she does that because essentially can a woman like that get a man of course there's all

Michael Sartainthese men are sims I don't know you saw the recent study that came out it was uh men under the age of 35 never married it's like 33 of men and 33 of women have zero sex in the last year of course

Michael Sartainshe's gonna find a dude who's desperate 100 she'll find him but when she she gets in that relationship she's going to realize oh I don't want him I don't want him and then she's going to lead the man that she does want the reason uh he probably already was with her and he

Michael Sartaindidn't do any of those things that she stated and that's why she has those rules because another guy didn't do those things and just got to have sex with her without being in a relationship prayer what about you I think her quote-unquote expectations are pretty

Priyadelusional um those are all very kind gestures that if we were in a relationship with somebody that those are things that I would love for them to do occasionally but they are not standard and they are not something that I would absolutely

Priyaexpect them to do 100 of the time again it's a kind gesture but that's not something that should be expected out of a relationship especially with how little she's bringing to the table and like you guys said how she claims that

Brian Atlasshe brings peace into a relationship somebody that holds standards like that is not a peaceful person yeah she doesn't she comes off as super entitled and I don't think entitlement

Brian Atlasparticularly coincides with be bringing peace to a relationship so but I mean anybody who's on Tick Tock whinging like that there's no way you're bringing peace to a relationship so thank

Brian Atlasyou everybody for your reactions to that I have a couple some of you so graciously provided some pre-show notes for us so we're going to go through a couple of those we have quite a bit so I don't know if we'll be able to get

Brian Atlasthrough everything but uh okay so we have you here you said you slept with a scary rapper once [Laughter]

Michael Sartaindoes he know that he was scary because he's watching right now we have 79 000 people watching right now he's one of them

AndreaI went and he I had such a crush on this guy and then we ended up hooking up and it scared the bejesus out of me because he we were hooking up and he took a gun

Andreaout and put it on the he was having a gun on him wait guns are scary never come to Texas

Michael Sartainmaybe like 25. okay what was the who's the rabbit no way telling you guys I forgot you don't want you don't want young Dolph to know you don't never mind

Andazaas a rapper would you expect anything less for him to not keep a gun on him maybe I'm just

Michael Sartaindid you go on multiple dates with him uh no you just met him the one time just backstage it was whatever okay is this before after your husband oh before before

AndreaI just divorced okay got it you're from Canada yes rapper Drake oh my God I wish no yeah it was great she'd be saying Drake

Andreasomeone said uh face tattoos did he have face tattoos name some lyrics you guys

Andreahe was a white okay okay

Andreadid G-Eazy have good lyrics hey why are you talking right now sorry please if other people are talking let them talk okay yeah yeah go ahead uh but yeah that's I'm not oh my God I feel

Andazalike one of those people like I'm not gonna tell you but no I I cannot so G-Eazy was good and bad is that what you're saying I always say a white rapper dude okay and it was years ago and that is but we all know him we would all know him

Michael Sartainoh he's not a list so juice it was okay is that what you're saying

AndreaI've definitely heard that there's a kink where like women will want like either a knife held up to them or like a gun held up yeah was it that kind of thing it was kind of don't get me it was kind of like it gets your adrenaline pumping right whether you like it or not I was like

Brian Atlaswait so hold on you were at a concert he was performing in the concert no it was it was Paul Wall it was Slim Thug slid into the DM slid into your DMs I slid into him are you not thinking anything like as a joke kind of and then he

Brian Atlasactually responded and then he's like oh come to the studio okay wait okay how many followers did you have when you slid into his DM zero is nobody you know what's interesting the reverse would

Brian Atlasnever happen like a dude sliding into Ariana Grande's DMS who's got zero followers I don't know she's dating I see her she's dating right now

Michael Sartainshe's dating now I mean nobody but when you message Paul Wall did he have a bunch of followers at the time yeah okay I logic

Brian Atlas[Music] these Clues over here so okay in your other notes you said that you were dealing with a husband who hated his job but I became his Sugar Mama oh yeah we

Andreakind of already talked about that um let's see I didn't think you guys were actually gonna like call me out on this stuff I just put I I sent it in like real quick so were you but you chose to marry him right but I mean you

Brian Atlasdid say hey like I it was the pandemic I didn't know the scope of his unemployment um but you characterized it as being his Sugar Mama but so I mean isn't it the case though many women today they're out

Brian Atlasearning men female doctors lawyers Etc so like why is it that a male Breadwinner is considered normal for a man but when a female is a breadwinner it's considered to be dating down well I see where you're going with that but

Andreawhat it you remember I said he was not ambitious like that was the issue right if you're like working hard and helping out and you just make less than me like go for it but if you're gonna sit there and be lazy and I have to provide for

Andreayou that's when you feel like so kind of like what it is

AndreaI guess you have a good point but I feel I don't know like a woman in a sugar uh baby situation usually what brings like you know she dresses sexy for you she'll do stuff around the house like I feel like they bring more to the table

Mallorythey'll probably have like a little side hustle you know have a little Boutique where they don't come to the island boys no if we're making like significantly more and he said hey I want to not work anymore

Andreasince you have the funds too you guys I'm not like a bajillionaire here I'm still working most men aren't bajillionaires yeah but like it wasn't enough that oh I make so much money where I can take care of us both and

Michael Sartainlive lavishly like you need to imp you know bring something too like it was just his um demeanor about it and like like I said just no ambition I'm curious who was better in bed your husband or

Michael Sartaintakashi69 which one was which one was better okay I'm checking though I want to see a reaction she can lie about the race of the rapper

Brian AtlasI know I know I know he's the Spanish she's like Eminem oh my God imagine and the the last note from you here and we were actually talking to some degree about this a little earlier you said that I think that

Brian Atlaspeople judge only fans girls too much and that a guy can't handle a girl showing off her body or that that guy who can't handle a girl showing off her body is insecure like the recent Jonah Hill text message we'll get to that in

TTS Readerjust a second hold on thank you John appreciate it can you ask the girls what their political leanings are and if they would be willing to date a guy with the opposite political leanings PS would be cool to get Destiny and far back on the

Brian Atlasshow oh yo John thank you very much yeah we can definitely ask that question appreciate it and I think we actually have Destiny coming on Thursday for a debate we're not doing a dating talk um we'll go around the table really quick

Brian Atlasso uh political leanings go ahead go ahead oh yeah yeah sorry yeah you're good you're good uh uh this we're talking about politics yeah are you liberal

Brian Atlasconservative politics moderate apolitical zero okay what about you I'll be feeling like politics is but social issues are important to know

Andreawhere you stand word okay what about you uh Eileen I guess more liberal but independent okay Green Party

Michael Sartaintwo times I voted in my life was for the green party but like okay terrorism or something I mean you said it not me I'm not getting kicked off this platform um I don't think I have political views

Brian Atlasit's kind of just like you know right from wrong like you're you know better hmm I feel like people just but liberal conservative

Brian Atlasmoderate moderate not not particularly some people just don't really really care about I just don't care that's fine what about you I'm moderate conservative okay

Malloryum ideally communist but I believe in human flaws so realistically social capitalism so like a blend of socialism and capitalists

Malloryum like China ideally I don't know China's not a real communist country it's socialism are you a tanky what did you say you said social capitalism yeah

MalloryI personally like different forms so like pick and choose okay I wouldn't say China's exactly doing it right but like I agree with their like limited population rules like stuff like that but I don't have that anymore

Mia Lynnum that is a part of like some kind of okay um I used to be extremely leftist raging sjw feminists I'm I'm more of like

Michael SartainCentrist liberal now okay I don't pay attention or care too much about politics so if you were a moderate 20 years ago you are a

Michael Sartainconservative now there is no way to like if I just I don't even say what I am if I am just had normal moderate views in 2000 today I am considered a conservative I agree yeah it's just lit

Michael Sartainlike and it's their basic Common Sense things I would be called a politically conservative and I try to like say no I'm more moderate and then I have like I talk to people I'm like no this is not I guess I'm not moderate I guess I'm not like you probably shouldn't be talking a

Michael Sartainnine-year-old about switching genders like that doesn't sound right to me and it doesn't like I don't go off and bait man I'm super politically conservative that just makes sense to me you know what I'm saying and I just don't understand so the things whatever

Michael SartainI believed because the Overton window keeps shifting to the left I'm left behind because I'm 45 years old I just look conservative prayer what about you uh I completely agree with your point actually um a few years ago I would have

Priyasaid I'm very moderate conservative uh now I'm being pushed much more right with how drastic um are we coming so rock and roll okay let's get a couple chats and we have Ronnie C here hey thank you man hey

Brian AtlasBrian great show priya's accent smile kind of cute shooting my shot Priya let's go skydiving in L.A question mark get a drink first date obviously I'm a pro athlete two from London I'll DM Brian and Michael God bless and bring

Brian AtlasDestiny back yo Ronnie thank you very much for your very generous uh chat there appreciate it um Priya he's a athlete wants to go skydiving offer it sounds like a sketchy first date though

Priyayeah that's we're jumping right to skydiving I don't know about that it's kind of because of the implication you know you're on sorry can I ask who's Destiny you guys keep

Michael Sartainmatching oh yeah Steve it's yeah uh he's a really he's a really good debater he's a little bit left to Center yeah and he's he's because all the red

Michael Sartainpill guys sort of like gang up on him he's always there like one of the things I appreciate about him he's always willing to take on these really these cantankerous debates and he's like I admit he's a better debater than me and

Michael Sartainhe he does tons of research he's awesome and so we did we did one debate he and I did one against each other uh on fresh and fit and I just learned to really respect it dude I'm doing a pretty big debate in a couple weeks and I'm actually picking his brain even though we don't agree on everything

Brian Atlasabout some things that I'm going to be debating on so yeah he's he's in in this space I would say he's the best debater that there is he's really well all right Rivers view hey thank you man appreciate it cheating or not never start physical violence Mill deletion stats due to

Brian Atlasresults of DVR comparable to female homicide violence never right and domestics hurt hurt on both sides stats not worth debate girls cheating is a civil case hitting is Criminal okay fair

Brian Atlasfair points very very fair point yeah uh yeah Rivers view good fair enough yeah I mean look uh despite you know the temperature that might be uh raised if you catch a girl cheating obviously you

Brian Atlastried it's not worth catching a case over that just yep move on get out of there like you know but uh yeah although I do like what about the dude

Brian Atlasyou know what if it's your best friend that's such a betrayal that's such a huge difference

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Audiinto the wild The Great Gatsby is kind of a funny story don't name a school required readings

Brian Atlascome on all right we have Bender the offender here hey thank you man ladies what do you think the median income for men is in oh here we go it's my favorite uh let's wait until we have her back from the bathroom Bender

Michael SartainI'll pull this one back up do you think the median oh my boy man

Michael Sartaina comedian so you would stack them all together and you would take a mean would be averaging them all which would be higher because there's some people who are trillionaires uh but median is going to be stacking them all and then taking the one that's at the 50th percentile that's a median yeah we have Canuck here

Brian Atlashey thank you man uh can you please bring on Fuentes and zurica they're great as a Duo very entertaining and insightful can uh five to ten extra viewership easily biggest women respect

Brian Atlasyeah okay I don't know Nick but I like John John is my boy uh no comment okay no comment um okay and then once she's back we'll

Brian Atlaspull this one back up Bender all right we have this one here uh okay ladies what do you think the median income for men is in today's

Brian Atlassociety we'll start with you go ahead I have to get up for a second cool the median income for men in the United States I actually have a bunch more stats 50 000.50 000. what do you think

Mia Lynnit is 25k 25 000 what do you think it is 40 40. like forty five thousand forty five thousand what do you think it is I think it's 30 30 60 anywhere

Michael Sartain30 50 30. okay I'm gonna stay in the 40s but it's buddy 42. that's crazy so usually we do this and it's all the girls say well it's 170 000. he probably makes a hundred thousand yeah he's gotta

Michael Sartainat least we'd be dating it's about 39 it's about 39 000. I think the newest I think the newest number is like 42 000 and then for a household I want to say it's 70 000. right okay the top 10 percent of wage earners what do

Michael Sartainyou think it is 10 of wage earners in the United States what do you think what what number would you have to cross 80 80. 150k 150

Malloryum okay it was like 120 120. 80. okay this is only top percent top ten percent I would say close to a million plus a million I would agree with it 80. wait is the question like

Michael Sartainhow much 10 you put you in the top 10 percent how much money are you making of income earners so we're not talking about guys who own like a bunch of rental properties um like 130 what do you think I'd say 90

Eileena90. it's about 170. it's about the top 10 the top one percent what do you think it is top one percent I don't I didn't know it

Eileenawent past 170. um I received maybe like 250. 250 for one percent 500k 500 yeah 500k like 475. you guys are dry you are wet like I've

Michael Sartaindone this a bunch of times I don't know maybe you guys have saw us but I'm you used to every girl saying 4 million 10 million 20 million keep going I'm gonna get in trouble for these wrong answers um yeah

MalloryI don't know 400 400 I'm so disappointed with the last answer but I'm gonna hope about a million a million you said the top one person not one percent

Michael Sartainyeah I guess like I'm close to a million 400 400 top one percent I'm gonna say 400. so it used to be about 450. now it's about 650. there's about 615 somewhere in that area we'll put you in

Michael Sartainthe tops one percent and the top oh one percent is about 3.2 million dollars so the reason why I think it's a little different is because when when you know we do the show the show in Miami or the show we do in Las Vegas a lot of those girls are around guys in bottle service

Michael Sartainthose guys are buying ten thousand dollar tables 100 000 tables and so people start to believe that that's uh that's what the normalcy is but no it's 39 000. how tall do you think the average guy's in the United States anybody five eight five eight what do you think

Michael Sartaineither five eight or five nine it's crazy again like you guys do a lot of reading congratulations we have a vote but I wanna I wanna hear you guys name three countries the answer is five nine yeah the number of men the number just real quick the number of men of the

Michael Sartainpercentage of men over six feet tall what do you think it is Buddy

Eileenastatistics correct or yeah U.S statistics yeah what do you think four percent of over six over six feet tall out of like a hundred percent yes

Eileenaokay yes correct um 25 25 20 20. 25 okay 15. five five ten ten can you repeat the question uh men over six feet tall what

Michael Sartainpercentage of men in the United States were over six feet or or taller no like maybe twenty percent yeah it is 14 so ladies I want you to think about this for a second okay so when ladies come out there and maybe you know

Michael Sartainmaybe because we're in a college town it's a little bit different but often we'll get makes a hundred thousand dollars a year that puts you in the top I think 26 or 28 percentile over six feet tall that puts you or six feet or over that puts you in the top fourteen

Michael Sartainpercentile remember those don't stack they actually it's 14 up 26 right and then we go not married not obese I mean if you ever use the delusional calculator you end up finding out that when women say that I want six feet tall

Michael Sartainsix-pack abs you know they're not married makes over six figures we're talking about point five percent of the population point three percent of the population and so then you have a woman like this woman on Tick Tock saying these are all the things that she wants

Michael Sartainin a relationship that's why I'm saying before from a statistical standpoint the likelihood of her finding that guy is like three is uh three tenths of one percent got it now we do the opposite all the guys we take the same test but

Michael Sartainof course we as men do not care about height and we do not care about money and so because of those Our dating pool is much greater so for a man who makes 200 000 a year he's choosing between say nine to fourteen percent of the

Michael Sartainpopulation whereas she's choosing between like point three percent of the population do you understand and this is why men cheat that it's just a function of so it's a socioeconomic it's a

Michael Sartainmathematics problem that's the reason why because for men to meet the standards that you're saying there's just so fewer of them I'm not excusing men cheating I already know there's going to be a tick tock made of me talking it's talking um but that's the reason why is because

Michael Sartainthese men at the top a higher tier have options what social media did is it did not make it easier for men to meet women it made it easier for a small group of men at the top to meet all of the women does it make sense so if you look at

Michael Sartainbody counts with men there's another study they do the top I'm going to say like 26 percent of men under the age of 30 something like that have had like still a version is it some ridiculously high number and it's getting higher and then you have the men over the top five

Michael Sartainpercent of men have 150 bodies so for men it's flat and then it goes like this and then and then the average man I think is like they've had six sexual partners in their entire life so we're

Michael Sartainup to 33 we're like at zero at the 50th percentile we're like at six and then we shoot up to 150. do you see like that whereas many for women it's more linear for men there is this group of men at the top that are having all getting all

Mia Lynnthe attention for women so can I ask you a question so for high value High status men that have all of the options right that only reaches like that's like like arcade selective Theory like it only reaches a critical point until like it

Mia Lynnfalls off and you actually can't maintain those options so like um if you're talking about like let's just uh use an example of like red the red pill Community right and you would consider a lot of those men like um

Mia Lynnencouraging other men to become high value High status right um so and along with that rhetoric also comes with provision for the women that they're dating um it could be provisioning or they

Michael Sartaincould just show access to scares resources what I mean by that is the guy who has the yacht and you come on the yacht but he's not provisioning for you sure not necessarily like Drake doesn't provision for a lot of the women he sleeps with but he still shows access to no I'm saying all of them there are

Michael Sartainwomen who are attracted to Drake that he does not provision for and there are women that Drake sleeps with that he does not need to pay that's my much Sure hold on let's let's try to move on from this okay um so let's see here we had uh I don't know if we want to do this other

Brian Atlaschat we did have another video to react to I want to try to Loop in the rest of the table here um if you can uh pull up the oh hold on let's just here I'll read it while it's up only in modern America with a girl in the street

Brian Atlasfighter clown costume believe it hold on let me re-tigure it shots fired believe that the deadliest Doctrine in history is ideal as they say it is easy to be a communist in a free

Mallorycountry it is impossible to be free in a communist country exactly I don't believe in ideal freedom I think humans are flawed so if you give them

Malloryaccess to like all the freedom like for instance we have the freedom to delete someone but it's you will be punished for it so technically you're not free to do that so then you're gonna

Malloryput other people who are you're saying flawed in charge of I know I don't I said communism is not ideal in terms of human like flaws so ideally I would want a communist like utopian society but I

Michael Sartainbelieve that's not achievable because of human flaw yeah if it's a utopian society you also don't need comments yeah you wouldn't need content right you wouldn't need I just like to use communism because that's what people relate to the idea of a utopian society

Michael Sartainwas Communist rhetoric in reality if you had a utopian society you wouldn't need people with guns to make you do things for your brothers that's that's something different yeah um let me see did I I don't know if I

Michael Sartainput by the way Mike I didn't mean to cut you off though she wanted to I I thought I don't know if there's some more back and forth if you wanted to continue your point feel free oh no it was just it's just going back to it's a socioeconomic thing where women like I Rolo and I are

Michael Sartainall about the description not the prescription what we're we're trying to explain to people is that as we go forward there's a small group of men who have a ridiculous access to women because of social media and a large group of men who have no access at all

Michael Sartainand because those men don't have access you see angrier and angrier groups of men I had Richard Reeves he's a PhD on my on my show he uh he was working for the he was working for the Deputy Prime Minister in the UK and he's a a senior

Michael Sartainfellow at the Brookings Institute hey serious academician and he was saying because academics did not want to have the conversation about men falling behind that's why Andrew Tate had that conversation and that's why he became so popular so fast because academics didn't

Michael Sartaineven want to acknowledge that there could possibly be a problem where men were falling behind as far as relationships that were concerned as far as jobs were concerned as far as education was concerned five percent of

Michael Sartainpsychologists under the age of 30 are men five percent do you understand what's going to happen to the entire field of psychology well yeah in 2050 women will essentially take over yeah there are more there are more female

Michael Sartainmilitary Pilots than there are male kindergarten teachers like we have gotten to the point where certain we there are certain institutions where men have completely followed behind while women have gotten into accounting becoming doctors and some of them

Michael Sartaingetting into engineering men did not become nurses men did not become kindergarten teachers and so we are having this large group of men that are unwanted and uh somewhat feel unnecessary and 68 of college graduates

Michael Sartainare female 60 of people in college are female and so because of that you have a bunch of women who are trying to become the men that they wanted to marry and they look at the men that they left behind and there's nothing there for

Michael Sartainthem on Tinder Bumble and hinge 83 percent of white right swipes go to 20 of men 20 of men are getting 80 three percent of the right swipes that is

Michael Sartainincredibly imbalanced that means to eighty percent of men are are competing for 17 of women and then you wonder where all this anger and angst and comes from so if feminists can get out there the new Barbie movie can come out all

Michael Sartainthis type of can happen but like you have to remember these men exist and if you don't that's when these massive problems happen I'm not I'm not trying to criticize any of you I'm just saying in general it's Society we try to we try to sweep these men under the rug and act like they don't exist because they don't

Michael Sartainhave luck with women and that's the reason why like that's the problem is because and then when women complain about men they're complaining about men who cheat and to a bunch of men who are like cheat cheat I've never had a girlfriend how the am I gonna cheat

Mia LynnI I think that there's a fundamental misunderstanding and Chasm between men and women I think that like well essentially the the red pill movement was a response to like

Mia Lynnpost-modern feminism like the fourth wave of feminism in the same like in the same way that like post-modern feminism was a response to like uh how women felt uh like

Mia Lynntowards men and I think men weren't expecting it I think they were shocked I think they were all comfortable I think that they couldn't like really understand the level of vitriol that women really um have for men but I think

Mia Lynnright now like the pendulum is swinging to like now we're talking about men we're talking about we're focusing on them but I also see that there's like seeds of like disdain and hatred like you say like women uh you know they like

Mia Lynnyou're focusing on this point that like women cheat right like and like that's like their main thing but women cheat or Menchie what are you doing I'm confused well you were saying earlier that like that like um what did you say about

Michael Sartaincheating just like a few minutes ago you're you're talking about why men cheat like from a socio to economic standpoint a man because I have some friends of mine even before I was you know

Michael Sartainfinancially successful I'd go hang out with them in their you know their nice apartment in Miami and the number of women that were just hitting them up I was like Jesus Christ like how is this possible like they had they had

Eileenainfinite options and then my buddy who worked at CVS had no options and there was no middle ground like what is he doing the Maya CVS is he going out is he going is he making himself available

Eileenalike it's not all about online people only like date by going online like I don't even have online dating apps I meet people outside in real life a lot of the time nowadays a lot of a

Eileenalot of women would just be completely turned off by a man that says that he works at CVS so even that's not true though bro I see people yeah that are mentally challenged not to like go on a loop with anything like you know I see

Eileenapeople that have serious like things going on and they find happiness and they find someone else you know what I mean I was going to say let her talk she let her talk wait did you date someone who was you know what I'm

Eileenasaying no no but I've seen it I physically we've all been in school we've all went to public school private school high school whatever you see a bunch of things you see people make it

Eileenathey make movies about certain people like anybody there's eight billion people there's so there's someone out there for everybody like that's just appointment period it's harder to find someone equal it's hard to find somebody

Michael Sartainequal if you're just doing the same thing every day and you live the same repetitive life cycle and you're not doing anything different why would it be equals and men and women is different yeah yeah so so the thing is because there are is there are so many ways to

Michael Sartainsedate men and remember if you're an attractive woman the thing you don't have to accomplish as much in order to be attractive to the opposite sex whereas a man you do and if we live in a

Michael Sartainsociety now with through you know things online pornography etc those things will sedate men and so that group of men that you said what is he doing the same thing every day yes he's doing the same everything every day because that's

Michael Sartaineasier for him to do it's it's a let me tell you something Grand Theft Auto 6 is coming out next year yes that is a 2 billion billion with a B two billion dollar budget for that video game that thing is going to ruin

Michael Sartainmy business and ruin my relationship okay like there's so many ways as a man to sedate yourself but we as men have this burden of uh achievement that we have to achieve certain things in order

Michael Sartainto be attractive to the opposite sex and women I'm saying women don't achieve things it's just that your ability to achieve things is not directly correlated to how attractive you are does it make sense I get what you're saying for sure like we're saying you

Priyacan lay around wait you don't speak women's attractiveness matters when it comes to men selecting no he he's saying that in terms of her like net worth value or income it doesn't matter nearly nearly

Mia Lynnas much as it does to men but there are other factors that men prioritize because I mean like the outputs of like between men and women are not going to be the same so we're going to Value different things in each other right so like a woman would be attracted to

Mia Lynnsuccess whereas a man would be attracted to you let's say whatever like right yeah right

Michael Sartainyeah consider a situation where you have a a male and female and they're twins and one of them is the male and he just sits there and smokes marijuana sits on a hacky sack and plays video games all day and becomes like he doesn't accomplish anything and then you have

Michael Sartainhis twin sister who's stunningly beautiful also smokes marijuana plays video games she has a dating advantage over him he has the burden of achievement he must achieve he must accomplish in order he must become

Michael Sartainsomething in order for him to win and the problem is there's something Rolo and I talk about all the time is that the world is so filled with sedation I find myself going down these these YouTube holes and I have to like stop myself like it's you could sit there and

Michael Sartainwatch endless hours of footage you can watch anything it's not even brainwashed it's just there's things that when I I have to tell my girlfriend all the time it's like it's work time now when I'm working I am I just think about how hard

Michael SartainI have to work to accomplish what I did we just uh we we're gonna have our first six hundred thousand dollar month this month okay when I think about all the work I had to do to do that and when I think about how hard it must be like what other guys are not doing this how

Michael Sartainthe are you are they going to be able to accomplish things when there's so many distractions I come from a time where if I was distracted my dad would go get a paddle and make me undistracted very quickly it's a very different time

Michael Sartainbut the 1970s 1980s right and so because of the way things are now you have these men who are very easily distracted they're being told that they don't need to be masculine they're being told that they don't need to have the ability to focus and they're also being told that

Michael Sartaintheir ability to accomplish things is not that important and that's just not true as your man if you're a man you are not a special snowflake if you're a man and you want to go the rest of your life and never get laid it's very easy to do you can just sit around you will never

Michael Sartainget laid it's not very difficult at all if you're a man and you don't ever want to run a seven figure business it's very easy to do that you can just sit around it'll never happen for you but that's the difference right so what you're saying before as men because they have the burden of performance they're always

Michael Sartaingoing to be behind the eight ball and things get more and more distressed acting as new video games and new movies and new augmented reality and new pornography comes out it becomes very it becomes more more difficult or rather a

Mallorylarger and larger cohort of men get left behind can I ask how you would say to fix that issue so a lot of people are going to be lazy that's I I'm a firm believer that a man can have all like

Mallorythe paddle and stuff and still be lazy do you think it's more so that men should just hold their expectations to and this would play into the women as well is they are to date equal so the twins mandate equal men don't get to

Michael Sartaindate equal mostly so that's what I'm saying when that figure and women don't women generally will date up if women started dating more equally wouldn't that fix the issue yeah but you can't you can't tell like it's evolutionary psychology you can't make you can't make

Michael Sartainwomen date equally women are gonna like attraction's not a choice women are going through some countries attractions well yes well in some countries marriage isn't a choice but yeah attraction generally not a choice but I I actually I'm very much like with Richard Cooper

Michael Sartainon this I'm just going to enjoy the decline I do think men in 50 years will be robots and and there'll be a small group of us who are still Cowboys out there going out there knowing how to speak to women knowing how to like when there's a fire we're

Michael Sartainthe ones still burning people pulling people out of the Burning uh the burning house we're still the ones who are willing to pull you out of the car after a car wreck we're still those guys who are willing to do that but I think we're going to see fewer and fewer of those

Mia Lynnmen instead of instead of like using the word lazy to describe these like group of men that like you know distracted are distracted or like not getting late or like can't really find like their woman

Michael Sartainlike when you have more compassion for them it's a huge lack of that that is a shot that is my compassion I'm telling you why why they exist right they exist yeah thank you Prometheus appreciate it I agree men have hobbies to keep us

Michael Sartaingrounded yeah men have hobbies to keep us grounded oh Prometheus had a hobby they kept eating his liver every day and it grew back every single day there you go uh go continue I'm sorry I forgot my thought

Brian Atlasokay let's react to the video then yeah uh all right go for it thank you my permission it's hot oh is that a dude oh my bad

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Brian AtlasI wanna just put my feet up the Iron Man oh my God play the beginning again really quick

Brian Atlaswhat's her primary uh played again

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Brian Atlaswhy okay so she's upset that she has to work I guess um oh you can pop you can pause it uh that's what yeah that's a huge issue these days yeah people don't want to

Andazawork yeah I think I feel like as a woman I need to have my own hustle like uh don't get me wrong princess treatment all the way but like I need to have my own hustle do I think I deserve to work five days a week and only have two days

Andazaoff absolutely not but I do believe as a female you need your own you know not depend on nobody type of hustle for yourself it depends if you're playing a traditional female role if you don't have kids be at the crib I think that

Audiapplies different I'm talking about like a single woman right but if you're not if you're not gonna plan to do none of that you could go have your career you could have do whatever you want and why would that's why would anything stop you really exactly yeah oh Bend to the

TTS Readeroffender donated 99 thank you that men are feeling less needed than before thus laziness no social skills and most importantly they will no longer be

Audibuilding society as a whole the generations to come completely I think a lot of women do I just want to provide for themselves if they want to feel like girl boss mood though it's like yeah you can still be girl boss and want a man oh

Andazayeah like so I grew up like my mom was very independent my dad also gave her the world and like you know showed what it was to be a husband my mom also raised me as an independent woman but I still also don't settle for anything less than what you deserve so it's like I grew up like being instilled that you

Audineed to have your own hustle don't depend on a man for anything even if he's trying to like oh you don't gotta work no if you're too busy being independent though this is personally something I've gone through I've been trying to spend a lot of time being independent being on my own then I do

Audithat and then I sit at a place that's alone so if you're going to build to be an individual that's what you're going to end up to be yeah so

Priyaa message that came through I completely agree uh feminism has told uh women that they do not need men and therefore men

Priyaand women are completely uh interchangeable and not distinct from each other which is completely false men and women absolutely need each other and there are certain roles

TTS Readergeodonated 99 can you ask the guests what they believe a man and the women should bring into a relationship and ideally if the man or the woman should bring more to the table

Brian Atlaswe we will get into that we're getting quite a few that are coming in right now so Average Joe thank you very much for your very generous uh TTS the TTS uh we will get into that once we kind of wrap

Brian Atlasup this conversational thread uh you were commenting on the previous one Bender the offender Bender thank you very much I think just men aren't appreciated um

TTS Readerdonated 100 yo thank you Ronnie appreciate it hey Brian show Ronnie again prettier first date let's get drinks

TTS Readerskydiving sketchy cheeky Universal studious La there there's TTS accent better make me sound great doubt LOL question FR panel what's the one thing

Michael Sartainthat makes you happy okay yo Ronnie see thank you very much yes there just make time just take just go on a date and just film the whole thing and if it's terrible then just put it up on Tick

Brian AtlasTock make it down here bro um so first off Priya do and quite a few have come through so we will try to address I'll but um do you he's

Brian Atlaschanged his date proposal to from skydiving to wine and pasta do you accept his day proposal I don't know how it comes people I feel about accepting a date proposal from somebody I've never met but I mean send a picture doesn't

Priyaeverybody send a picture doesn't everybody start off as a stranger at one point yeah yeah but normally I meet people in person and okay what if he's really cute

Brian Atlaswould it change your mind I guess it depends he's on I mean down here this is his second TTS so I mean he's doing he's probably doing well unless he's been in the bands already spending some money he's just trying to

Andreatalk to you he's paying money to talk to you but is he over six foot

Andrea[Music] spend more money

Brian AtlasI'll contemplate by the way just on the height thing did we go on the medium median income everybody answered okay cool cool just they got it way more right than any other audience that's a

Brian Atlasgood panel yeah that's a good panel yeah all right cool um okay so there's quite a few that came in Priya you were addressing the bend to the offender with the uh the feminism thing go ahead yeah well and

Priyawith women seeking the top percent one percent of men uh the majority of men feel undervalued first of all and therefore I think they

Priyadon't feel like they need to work to become better and become like masculine men that can provide for their families um and yeah and you don't feel appreciated

Priyano they don't feel appreciated and I mean it's hard to not blame or it's hard to blame the victim but you know men do have to become accountable at some at

Audisome point and decide that they want to strive to be that one percent of men so wait wait a minute and we can all put our standards a bit lower for men there's still the

Auditechnology now that exists that gives women the ability to just have a roster of men from all over the world that hasn't been there before yeah so when women need to take accountability themselves as well I don't think that's

Priyaa sustainable way to live or a good way to live wait but okay but one question for you so you you said that men should strive to become that one percent not necessarily strive to become the one percent but I think that everybody

Malloryshould strive to continuously become better yeah but as he said earlier there are different standards that women put onto men so it's harder to become that one person because not only do you have to be good looking I'm not saying that yeah I don't think I don't think it's that hard

Michael Sartainwhat I mean guys that are under the age of 25 they do nothing they do nothing it is there is like small let's say the top 16 of men it has never been easier to get into that top 16 of men dude take a class on copywriting on like

Michael Sartainlearn how to build a sales funnel seriously learn affiliate marketing there's so many ways to make like 400 numbers

Michael Sartainand then go to the gym six days a week there's so many things for other books you can read it is so accessible for men to become that topless when are we going to talk about men's mental health and maybe their lack of ability to really

Mia Lynnget to that spot because I don't feel I don't really see men talking about that and I don't really see women talking about that either because we have to perform it's like our mental health when we get there but that's the part that we need to break down right because if like

Mia Lynnif we're taught I'm gonna walk instead of talking to talk well I'm considering like what's happening now in like you know mainstream social media and like like the United States and Western Society is like there's a movement for

Priyamen that's happening right now sure it's evolving and I I agree that mental health with men has been has always been quite neglected but I think that there's mental health epidemic going on that is

Priyacompletely obscure and out of blown out of proportion there is this idea now in society that if you are not continuously happy all the time that there's something wrong with you and there's something wrong with your lifestyle our

Priyaancestors understood that life was trying and difficult and complex and the road to happiness was long and trying and now we think that we can just walk down the street and be this happy butterfly all the time and if we're not

Priyawe're doing something incredible what do you think that is I think social media I think feminism has told this told everybody this because if you are not making your own way as a woman and then men are neglecting their duties because

Priyathey're told that they are not going to ever be enough I think that there's a like a multitude of reasons for this which perpetuates the cause in between men and women understanding each other being able to like really being

Mia Lynnunderstood being able to understanding it yeah for example like like how much effort do you think women like the average woman

Brian Atlasoh hold on just hold that thought oh it's hold on I have to re-trigger it because there's a curse word I guess or not I think it give it one sec it'll re-trigger

Michael SartainI don't necessarily know that men and women have to understand each other in order to get up along and here's the thing if you are a woman and you have short-term values you you were saying men women have to do something or men

Brian Atlashave to do no they don't no they don't that's the point go ahead okay here we go oh is it not gonna okay yeah it's probably okay uh they are disgusting predators and online that needs to be

Brian AtlasNationwide banned I grew up in the digital age I know the majority of men are watching highly Advanced and addictive prawn starting at the age of 12 and are being groomed by social media

Priyaby the way yeah if you I think it probably he's saying prawn so of and porn stars the porn industry also has a lot to do with this and the decline of masculine men you can watch prawn and

Priyastill have a job and traditional women masculine man that's just an addictive personality like just like you can get addicted to it take that industry specifically breeds addiction first of all second of all there are a lot of

Priyathings that corn does to your mental health to your hormones okay that's coming in indeed 99 dollars speaking of distractions shout

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