CAT FIGHT! Heated Debate About CHEATING?! | Dating Talk #87

Date: 2023-07-26

Duration: 5h 38m

Guests

Brian Atlas

EEileena (DT87)>

AAudi Drip (DT87)>

AAndrea (DT87)>

AAndaza (DT87)>

RRosanna Pfeiffer >

MMallory (DT87)>

MMia Lynn (DT87)>

MMichael Sartain >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_01TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_02Kelly(guest)

SPEAKER_03Rosanna Pfeiffer(guest)

SPEAKER_04Eileena(guest)

SPEAKER_05Mia Lynn(guest)

SPEAKER_06Andaza(guest)

SPEAKER_07Michael Sartain(guest)

SPEAKER_09TTS/Video Audio(audience)

SPEAKER_10Andrea(guest)

SPEAKER_11Audi(guest)

SPEAKER_12Priya(guest)

SPEAKER_13Mallory(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMichael Sartain introduces himself: retired USAF captain, MOA founder, 45yo, hosts Michael Sartain Podcast and Access Vegas

“"my name is Michael Sartain I'm a retired US Air Force captain of little KC-135 uh as a navigator and I did special ops and I did counter Intel for a while and now I'm the founder of the men of action mentoring program... I'm 45"”

QuoteAndaza reveals she walked in on her boyfriend cheating and physically fought him and the other woman

“"There we go walked in on it walked in on it yeah... caught shorty on the corner so... he thought you're gonna be gone for a little while... yeah I ended up whooping her ass and then I moved to LA"”

QuoteMichael Sartain explains that removing birth control implant dramatically improved his girlfriend's personality and mood

“"she had the birth control thing taken out... totally different bro totally... the birth control thing makes bro... it's just so... it's a night and day"”

QuoteTikTok "bare minimum" dating standards video played — woman lists: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything

“"this is the bare minimum for dating me number one asked me to be his girlfriend... number two buys me flowers often... picks me up and drops me off... offers to pay for every activity and doesn't expect me to do 50 50"”

ControversyEileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating coach, calling her a "26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice with two men in her bed"

“"This is all coming from a 26 year old relationship Tick Tock Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"”

ControversyMia Lynn tells Eileena "I don't care" and defends her right to give dating advice based on relationship experience

“"in my bed did you not listen to me say that I'm platonic... listen to me say I don't care"”

QuoteMichael Sartain presents stat that average US male height is 5'9" and only ~14% of men are over 6ft

“"the number of men the percentage of men over six feet tall... four percent... it's crazy... five nine yeah... the number of men... 14 percent over six feet tall"”

QuoteBrian asks panel to rate their physical looks 1-10; Eileena and Audi declare themselves 10+/off-the-scale

“"ask everyone to write their looks on a schedule of one to ten so you can't be like all my my personality I'm going to I'm a 10 out of 10... they'd be calling me Alicia Keys on there"”

QuoteBrian explains he sometimes does not pay on first dates as a screening tool and principle (does not want to feel like a sucker)

“"there are women that will string you along... keep securing attention... you'll pay for her... I'm not going to pay so when someone's your girlfriend then I will fall into... if you're committed to me then I will"”

QuoteMia Lynn reveals her body count is 11 (including kissing and penetrative sex)

“"I include like people in my body count that have like kissed penetrative sex 11 people 11 people"”

QuoteMia Lynn recounts a date with a diplomat's son who used his dead father as a reason to sleep with her

“"he was like um you want to go back to my place and I was like uh no I think I'm just gonna go home and he was like but my dad but my dad died and I was like oh... that is like the last thing you want to say to a girl"”

QuoteMichael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA — Babes and Toyland for troops overseas

“"I'm hosting a charity event in Los Angeles on Thursday it's a babes and Toyland we do one every year for animal rescue... this one's gonna be for troops overseas"”

Topics Discussed

Introductions & Show Announcements

Brian opens show, plugs streamlabs/Twitch/merch/BLM nonprofit/clips channels. Guests introduce themselves in order: Eileena (bartender, 24), Audi/Audi Drip (fashion designer/musician, 22), Andrea (content creator/OnlyFans, 31, Quebec Canada), Andaza (hair model/social media, 23), Rosanna Pfeiffer (nurse practitioner/model/actress, 34, Buffalo NY), Mallory (content creator/marketing, 27), Mia Lynn (internet personality/PhD student, 26, Brooklyn), Kelly (student/personal stylist, 21), Michael Sartain (MOA founder/USAF/podcast host, 45), Priya (ASU student/equestrian, 22).

Relationship Status Round

Full round of relationship statuses. Eileena: single, never had official relationship, one 4yr situationship. Audi: single since 18, career-focused, had a poly house situation at 19. Andrea: divorced after 2-year marriage, happy being single. Andaza: newly single (2 months) after cheating incident — walked in on boyfriend, fought the other woman. Rosanna: 2-year relationship. Mallory: in relationship with her Tinder match's best friend. Mia Lynn: dating two men platonically/non-exclusively (one Catholic church guy, one 22yo from Williamsburg/AZ). Kelly: 1yr 7mo relationship. Michael Sartain: relationship since Oct prior year (girlfriend 24 years younger, 21yo; met at Mexico bikini pageant). Priya: single ~1 year, on show ~3-4 weeks prior, no new developments.

Andaza's Cheating Story & Catfight Debate

Andaza tells story of walking in on boyfriend with another woman. Debate erupts over whether to fight the other woman (Andaza: yes, did it) vs. walking away (Mia Lynn, Mallory: walk away). Eileena defends fighting. Mia Lynn argues any physical violence is domestic violence. Show of hands on responses to catching partner cheating. Discussion of Texas historical law on killing spouse and lover in flagrante. Rosanna: walked in at 17 drunk at a club and reacted physically; says she would not do that now. Brian moderates, discusses provocation limits.

TikTok "Bare Minimum" Dating Standards Video Reaction

Brian plays a TikTok video of a woman listing her bare minimum dating standards: be asked to be girlfriend, buy flowers monthly, always pick up/drop off, pay for everything, no 50/50. Panel debates whether standards are too high. Eileena: not too high. Audi: standards OK but you can't cherry-pick traits. Andrea: agrees with some (not flowers, not driving). Michael Sartain: attraction precedes standards; all items are "comfort-building" not attraction-building. Follow-up clip shows what she brings to table ("peace and energy"). Discussion of what men bring vs. what women bring.

Eileena vs. Mia Lynn Clash — Dating Coach Credentials

Eileena attacks Mia Lynn's credibility as a dating advisor for men given she is not in a relationship herself ("26-year-old relationship TikTok Guru giving men advice of two men in her bed"). Mia Lynn defends herself: she has been in relationships, has grown through them, and advises from experience. Kelly also questioned Mia earlier at ~0:32. Mia tells Eileena to not interrupt her. Tension between them continues through episode.

Jonah Hill / Relationship Boundaries Debate

Discussion of Jonah Hill's leaked texts to ex-girlfriend about her surfing in bikini. Michael Sartain defends Hill's right to set boundaries and argues the ex was the real wrongdoer (released messages after Hill had a baby with someone else). Brian: Hill was manipulative. Debate on whether surfers wear bikinis (Brian/Sartain disagree). Discussion of whether a partner can reasonably ask the other not to post in bikinis. Mia Lynn: boundaries are OK as long as not controlling.

Red Pill / Evolutionary Psychology Discussion

Michael Sartain leads extended discussion on Dr. David Buss's 37-culture evolutionary psychology study. Topics: hypergamy, body count and pair bonding, high status vs. low status men (Sartain: they are functionally different species), why men cheat (high status men have options), women's attraction vs. comfort distinction, oxytocin bonding and body count effects on women, naturalistic fallacy (what is natural ≠ what is good). Mia Lynn and Rosanna contribute neuroscience on oxytocin/vasopressin. Discussion of Genghis Khan Y chromosome, women waiting at the finish line (Rich Cooper quote).

Women's Standards & the "Delusion Gap"

Michael Sartain presents statistics: top 1% income is ~$615K/year (most women guessed $150-400K); average US male height is 5'9"; only ~14% of men are over 6 feet tall. Discussion of women's unrealistic standards driven by exposure to high-status men (VIP hosts, bottle service). Discussion of birth control (hormonal implant removal improving girlfriend's personality). Priya and Priya discuss natural cycles tracking (fertility awareness method). Brian and Sartain discuss never paying for girls at clubs who can't afford high dates.

Self-Ratings Round

Guests rate their physical looks 1-10. Eileena: 10+/off-the-scale. Audi: 10+/off-the-scale. Andrea: 8. Rosanna: "buffalo 10" (best in Buffalo). Mia Lynn: 7 with makeup / 5 without. Michael Sartain: 6-7. Priya: declined/unclear. Discussion devolves into debate about whether beauty is objective or subjective. Brian: objective standard exists. Mia and Eileena: refuse to rate below 10. Michael Sartain: men cannot just declare value, they must earn it. Long philosophical debate on objective vs. subjective beauty standards.

Dating & First Dates — Who Pays?

Brian reveals he sometimes doesn't pay on first dates as a matter of principle and screening (low-interest women will be filtered out). Michael Sartain recommends always paying to minimize anxiety and show value. Mallory: he who asked should pay, she goes 50/50 unless overly impressed. Andrea: does the "fake reach" but hopes man pays; would hold it against a man who counts dimes. Mia Lynn: impartial, every man she's dated has paid. Rosanna: wants someone responsive and funny. Discussion of foodie calls and women who string men along. Audi: if she asked him out she would pay. Debate on whether fake-reach is entrapment.

Body Count Discussion

Brian asks body counts. Mia Lynn: 11 (includes kissing + penetrative). Andrea: 10+ (doesn't keep track, plus-or-minus 10, more than that, doesn't know). Andaza and others did not disclose clearly. Michael Sartain declines ("man of God"). Brian declines. Extended debate on whether body count matters. Michael Sartain: sticker analogy (bonding degrades after repeated partners). Rosanna: no objection to men caring, though she doesn't ask men's counts. Show of hands: most women do not object to men caring about body count. Discussion of triple-digit body count as deal-breaker (most said yes at triple digits). Sartain cites 83% of women who cheat fall in love with affair partner vs. 29% for men.

Ideal Partner Types & Preferences

Round of physical and personality preferences in a partner. Andaza: men with dreads/locks, looks hard but soft personality. Rosanna: conscientious, cares about health, creative, responsive, intelligent, funny. Mallory: 6ft+ (not required), broad shoulders, dark and handsome, ambitious, gamer-type, no race preference. Mia Lynn: slightly older (10-15 yrs), white men mostly; also dating a 22yo (cougar moment). Michael Sartain: Vegas-type body (tight, cocktail server), boob jobs OK, long hair, green/blue eyes, not deal-breakers. Mia Lynn shares story of diplomat's son who used his dead father as a move. Brian: prefers short women (4'10"-4'11"), calm/introverted, natural, no surgery, low body count, soft voice, slight preference dark hair and blue/green eyes, parents made her do violin or cello.

Closing — Announcements & Wrap

Brian announces next show: Thursday special debate edition — Destiny vs. mystery guest on mystery topic (3:30pm Pacific). Then back to Dating Talk next Sunday 7pm Pacific. Michael Sartain announces Thursday charity event in LA (Babes and Toyland for troops overseas). Brian explains issue with Karen downstairs neighbor complaining about noise. Thanks guests; asks everyone to exit quietly due to neighbor complaint. Show ends.

Transcript

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Brian AtlasI.E Financial Security home Etc women would rather wait at the Finish Line instead of going on a journey with a man than expecting a fulfilling life at the end but wouldn't postmodern feminism like be it to like disprove his

Mia Lynnstatement right there like women are saying that they like they want to get out of like the man's grasp right they want their own lives they want to be independent they want to right so like well I think I think those women for you're correct but I will tell you as

Michael Sartainbeing 45 and and then being pretty successful my dating pool has expanded 50x so I will tell you they are waiting they definitely are waiting and if you talk to other guys in my position they're going to tell you the same thing

Michael Sartainthey're waiting like like it's crazy to me how many girls that I knew 10 years ago and then now that that now that I like have a little bit of cloud they're like I've always been I've always had a crush on you like no the you didn't

Michael Sartainyou didn't have a crush on me you my friends I'm not stupid you didn't give a you wouldn't piss on me on when I was on fire when I was 30 years when I was a 30 year old captain in the Air Force you didn't care about me at all now all of a sudden they do and that's just one thing that I've noticed so no

Kellythey are waiting Rich Cooper is correct a lot of women like they tried to like they just want to be there at the end of the day and they want to they want everything they expect everything but you weren't even on the journey with this man to get to that rich Cooper's quote is women do not care about the

Michael Sartainstruggle they wait at the finish line and they the winners and I have I will tell you for my it's just my personal anecdotal experience that is exactly what I see that is exactly what I see girls do not care about how I made the money they don't care how about how I became successful and they don't care

Michael Sartainabout all the Reps that I did the reps and sets I did to be able to bench press all this all they care about is the results I noticed that in younger women more than anything for sure and I also noticed that and and I also noticed that the men that are in my cohort are dating

Michael Sartainyounger women because of this because they want they want less drama it's not about the entitlement it's just like like they just want less drama from the women that they're dating and these women have fewer traumatic experiences they're shown to

Mia Lynnnot be like good lifelong Partners statistics when they're younger yeah when they're younger like no statistically speaking like that is true like it's like women that are like 18 to yeah I mean I think 18's too young

Mia Lynnit's like 18 to 21 or something is like that one of the highest like divorce rates in terms like well can I ask you a question can I can I ask why you chose to date someone younger than me I didn't choose so like when I was there I just

Michael Sartainshe was like when I met her I was like I want to date you I just knew that I had no idea and no clue how old she was and she had um she had a a procedure because she had a lump and she had to have a double mastectomy and so she got breast implants so if you saw her from the

Michael Sartainoutside it's very hard for you to believe that this girl's 21. she's because generally you don't see that until later in life and so I thought she was older and then we got to know each other and then she's like yeah I don't I can't even go with you to a bar because I'm not 21. so would your preference be

Michael Sartainlike older my purpose it would be my purpose would be her to be honest with you if I was in a relationship with her I'd be single I was very very happy being single so that that would not be it and that's you know that's the issue my life was complete before I met her

Michael Sartainand it's really awesome now and if things don't work out my life will still be complete which is how it should be just be adding to your life she does she needs to benefit you she helps she helps with the business which is very very important and she understands my

Michael Sartainboundaries so if women are born with inherent value because of their looks or right so so when you talk about physical attraction from the opposite sex yes because I don't want to I don't want to misuse this if a woman is a cardiologist and

Michael Sartainsaves your child's life through heart surgery she has incredible intrinsic value that has nothing to do with her physical attractiveness I want to make sure that we understand this because because this this gets way misconstrued what a man does that makes him

Michael Sartainattractive What man does that makes him popular so like say Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers makes a lot of money and he's the quarterback for the Jets and he's physically attractive because he makes a lot of money he's the quarterback for the Jets they're the same thing Madame

TTS ReaderCurie may have been very attractive to her husband Martin donated 100 good for these Sims Priya I don't chase women as I'm not hurting for options

TTS Readeryou won't be receiving ADM from me but if you want to get in touch with me email my charity contact at martinfdn.org

Michael Sartainno it's not with me like my girlfriend's going do you want to come it's like 300 girls come in we're raising money for charity on Thursday where is it it's going to be in uh Avalon in Los Angeles uh sure sound good Okay cool so there you

Brian Atlasgo see how easy that was guys see there you go beautiful all right okay we got SAS Sask finest here stop simping you guys are disappointing as men they have Instagram shoot your shot there I'm here to support the channel that's it okay

Brian Atlasthank you for the Canadians where's the Baghdad one I saw the Baghdad one was it a super chat I don't know yeah we have a lot to get through

Brian Atlasum let's see uh we have what a simp uh are Argentinian 500 thank you to Brandon chat what do you think about plastic surgery

Brian Atlason a girl to Brian in chat what do you think about plastic surgery on a girl honestly I'm not uh I I don't like women with plastic surgery so

Rosanna Pfeifferfake lips fake tits lipo BBL um labioplasty not a fan not a fan that's plastic surgery they're Aesthetics

Michael Sartainthat's what I do for a living I do Medical Aesthetics lips are not plastic surgery I do Botox yeah I will tell you because we because unfairly or not because so much pressure

Michael Sartainis put on a woman for her physical attractiveness good plastic surgery is very like again like shout out to Chris corsandi in Las Vegas like good excellent plastic surgery we're talking like 25 000 boob jobs like incredible

Michael Sartainthat stuff I don't blame women forgetting that I absolutely don't you can't even tell that it's plastic surgery I blame them I blame them what if you can't tell Brian the thing is a woman is being judged under physical attractiveness and she gets something

Brian Atlasdone where you can't tell that it's plastic surgery and she looks better would you not I could tell I can show you some rhinoplasties you would not be able to tell oh Rhino okay that's I thought you're talking about obviously

Brian Atlaswhat was your question what was your question oh

Brian Atlasoh yeah as far as plastic surgery goes I mean I'll touch on it really quick I mean basically like take guys guys please guys please okay um please if one person is talking I

Brian Atlasmean it's been pretty much a show this entire night whoever's talking please just be quiet let them speak okay so just let me address this plastic surgery thing really quick um I would prefer for example some women

Brian Atlashave small breasts they want to get fake tits I even if a girl was flat before so she had super small breasts I would prefer that over some big fake titties same with lipo I'd prefer a girl who had

Brian Atlasa little bit of belly fat over the Lipo belly uh what else uh BBL I prefer a girl with like an average bud or like no butt versus a BBM uh what else lips I prefer a girl who had a small upper lip

Brian Atlasthan if she had Botox or what the do they I don't know whatever they put College they put collagen in I'd prefer that I'd prefer a girl with giant labia over a girl with Lady plastic you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying I don't think

Brian Atlasyou've seen a giant labia no brother brother foreign

Brian AtlasI mean you mentioned the small dick thing I think listen women have can have preferences when it comes to like you know a man's size down there I happen to have a preference too huh

Brian Atlasyou didn't know that men could have preferences when it came to that's right that's right my DMs are open okay all right okay let's get these uh

Brian Atlassuper chats out the way thank you there for the uh yeah large maybe it's in the DMS my DMs are open if you have a large labia seriously BD underscore Atlas okay Conan 19 Foxy Cleopatra do you date white guys

Brian Atlasto start that just a reminder though Conan he's asking if you're single here or he's asking if you date white guys he is the guy who said he's 32 six feet handsome 215 pounds great beard tattoos

Brian Atlashe shaves his head and he makes 40 to 50K a year what do you what do you think you down you down for him six six feet handsome 215 pounds I'll sleep on it all right

Brian Atlassleep on okay there we go all right we bought it all right then to the offender hey thank you man question for the whole panel do you think that mothers in the U.S society are more self-centered or less concerned with their

Michael Sartainchild's future than 50 years ago absolutely 100 yes yes yeah I mean you should have kids if you're um I'm I'm gonna say no just because

Michael Sartainit's an evolutionary design I I I think what they're doing though may hurt their children's future because they're seeing things short term as far as long term but as far as the actual emotion I bet

Michael Sartainthey're exactly because a woman willing to die for her child is an evolutionary adaptation that doesn't just go away Martin donated 100 thank you Mike your

TTS Readerfrightening Priya you're too hoped up on energy drinks my charity help dogs and horses not hoes pre your new nickname is

TTS ReaderPrius your small quiet and seem economically sound from a distance I have a girlfriend I asked her to come

Michael Sartainto my charity event he's not scaring me I I love cars Priuses are a garbage piece of trash vehicle I'm super excited to make uh to have to interview pre-own the red carpet

Michael Sartainand then send it right to you buddy hey you want to help us with this charity we're gonna do charity okay damn it Martin they're all saying Priya wait question really quick question on the Prius thing who here would date a guy

Brian Atlaswho has a Prius like is that is that like a is that an issue I didn't even pay attention to the car again I mean is that like kind of a some girls have like this some people think this one would be

Andreabetter oh that's true I love Larry David and Larry David in this show he's always driving a Prius so I have a thing for that okay you like Larry David huh yeah that's good that's good old white men

Brian Atlasall right puffy Vegas I've changed my Ig can the girls rate it now uh wait puffy the the trigger for Instagram rating let me just double check it it is via

Brian Atlasstreamlabs only I guess we don't have let me see bruh it's it's did you read the description Hello um I've changed my Ig and the girls write it now from the black girl in the

Brian AtlasBikini ending with the girls in the polka shirt the black girl with oh this is the rating he's raiding everybody can you like Play My Radar

Brian Atlas7.5 wait what was it okay I'm confused all right that's the rating now judge me

Brian Atlashe didn't he didn't hit the did he didn't hit the threshold though for us to do a rating of his IG three

Brian Atlas100 super jets it is what do you think oh do you have it pulled up yeah uh I'm the one who should be writing your IG by the way buddy well while we wait on that okay let me

Brian Atlasget through the rest as rule 69 hey good to see you back in the chat man Michael by the way Azul did you send me a DM on Instagram send me a DM on Instagram Michael I was in Baghdad when you was still hey when you were in Baghdad

Michael Sartainduring the first war I was 14 years old so got that one wrong keep going oh okay would you accept a mission to destroy your uranium enrichment not in Iraq because they didn't have any uranium I don't know if you were aware of what happened over the last 20

Michael Sartainyears you might want to catch up keep going oh this is this is the this is the uh the the uh the plot for uh Top Gun too

Michael Sartainokay I just realized yeah so first off fifth gen sukway 57 aircraft they don't there are no flying Sukhoi 57s once you look it up they're not they're supposedly stealth they don't work and

Michael Sartainnumber two uh yeah that's that's basically the plot for uh for Top Gun two I just realized that that's that's what he's doing now that's pretty funny yeah there's no uranium or original plan in Iraq in 1990 wait questions so I

Brian Atlasbought the second one an O3 why were you two arguing or was it you what why were you guys arguing at the beginning of the show I'm trying to remember oh yeah the domestic violence thing

Andazadomestic is so extreme I wouldn't call it domestic no we wouldn't call it violence it was definitely domestic Kelly what were you does it matter you were upset we're bringing it back up

Kellyum I was just saying that because I thought she said she was a relationship coach or like um like a relationship I never called myself a coach or a guru I never said that I was like perfect I said like you give advice yeah so I was

Mia Lynnjust saying that I was just like me personally I wouldn't take advice from someone who wasn't in a relationship if I was trying to get relationship with but I've had successful relationships and I'm taking a break right now that doesn't mean I'm

Mia Lynnin capable you've had successful relationships because if you've had successful relationships you've been one right now that's that's not that's not true at all you can have successful relationships and where you learn about yourself and where you become but I kind of feel like that thing like every

Michael Sartaintherapist has all their together every doctor is 100 healthy to like just Devil's Advocate yeah for me for me like the reason why I'm not a relationship coach but the reason why my clients keep coming to me I have 600 clients now the reason why they keep coming to me is

Michael Sartainbecause other clients have success and they take pictures and they show success and then they have more success and then they have more success that's the reason why the only thing so if I was in a relationship or not in a relationship or that that doesn't matter the only thing that matters is the results of my

Brian Atlasclients which my clients get tons so I agree with that yeah all right we have puffy Vegas here axis Vegas I have 54 million views on my YouTube channel I would like to meet her I'll take you out to dinner we have a couple drinks and you can teach me how to be better okay

Michael Sartainwe're I'm super confused here okay access Vegas is me uh I have 54 million you know me YouTube channel puffy I don't know if we can look that up if he actually has 54 million I'll look it up right now I'd like to meet her we don't know who her is that's a pronoun that we

Michael Sartaincan't figure out who that is take you out to dinner have a couple drinks so you can teach me how to be better and we don't know what better means bro you were dropping cheese man hit me up on Instagram and let me help you

Brian AtlasDoug this is crazy what are you doing I think he's so he's he's addressing you initially then he says I would like to meet her which is maybe like in a platonic way he wants to take you and your girlfriend out to dinner

Brian Atlasall right we have here I'm going to continue Ransom G hey thank you man Jance when Giga Chad status is reached you get real shots at Priya priyas tonight's proof so Bill discipline and

Brian Atlasgenuine burning desire will come 24 aspiring F football coach and physical therapist here have discipline because she ain't choosing you yet

Brian Atlasall right we have what's yo Brian you should take you should take on a date the girl next to you you look nice together okay all right

Brian Atlasum she doesn't like flannel so that's a that's a wrap you just non-negotiable non-negotiable kellyanne I'm sorry no it's all good hey

Brian Atlasthank you for coming Kelly appreciate it get home safe everybody say bye to Kelly

Michael Sartaincharity we got Getty photography what is it uh this one is for troops overseas the Douglas J yeah he was lost in Iraq and his family set up a foundation so we could we send care packages to troops that are currently

Michael Sartaindeployed we actually assemble the care packages I think they sent like 1.4 million care packages already oh wait I had something for I had something for Kelly but you just asked me I'll just pretend pretend

Priyayou're gonna pretend to be a petite Vietnamese winner that's right I thought horse girls were a no-go for you so what I'm out anyways that's that is true horse girls definitely red flag major

Brian Atlasred flag um wait sorry I lost my uh uh just leave it just leave it don't worry about it um okay hold on sorry my notes thing closed out here so

Brian Atlassorry guys okay here it is so uh we were malpal I was dating a guy and left him for his best friend who had better qualities he's my current partner what

Malloryhappened there um so I had met this guy through Tinder I normally don't do dating apps but it was a low point and I just wanted to meet somebody and I went out with him for about a month um it was going to end up a long

Mallorydistance so I left the relationship because I was like it's not worth a long distance and then I pursued his friend after because I had seen he had qualities that I liked okay and that's who you're right now she broke up with a dude

Brian Atlasokay qualities would be uh same paying salary uh good guy okay and then you said gender expectations and paying for dates I believe in absolutely the quality so you think like 50 50 on the first date

Brian Atlasokay unless I'm overly impressed or they're overly impressed I don't mind suggestions like okay yeah all right uh we'll go around the table who should pay on the first date

Brian Atlaswhoever got the bread who asked me out who asked who out if you guys have you ever have you ever asked a guy out on the date yeah for sure

Andazahe's in that situation I did you pay for the whole thing you split I mean I was like yeah do you want to go grab something to eat my treat you want to grab something like my treat yeah I'll pay for it I'm winning yeah I've done

Andazathat before I actually make you pay you baby um did I oh it wasn't the first day it wasn't the

Mia Lynnfirst date okay yeah uh what about you what about you um oh um I'm impartial it doesn't matter but every guy that I've been on a date

Brian Atlaswith has paid so okay I'm also quite impartial okay all right I always offer you offer yeah

Brian Atlasthat's wrong wait question so how much you want me to say yo that's wrong so let's say you and me

Andreaon a date right and the whatever the check comes you do role play how do you do the fake reach oh okay I'm kind of excited I will take

Andreaout an offer like but I'm praying that he'll pray okay and I'll even do a second time are you sure like no like I'm sensitive okay so yeah

Andreayou're gonna get laid for sure doing that you're manipulating these men into sleeping with you no I don't mind paying I just think the first initial payment whether it's an ice cream anything the

Brian Atlasfirst initial thing I think it's just a polite thing okay so so you do the token gesture let's say though that you because you said you hope I guess you hope that they don't accept so let's say

Andrealet's say a guy takes you actually takes you up on your token gesture of paying what's your reaction oh of course I'll be nice to their face but if I wouldn't be interested in them long term

Andreaeven if otherwise the date went well and um it's happened to me before I dated a guy and he was really cute if we hit it off and then when the bill came I was I offered him some cash and he took it and he was like counting dimes and it just

Brian Atlasturned me off because it just shows me okay disregard the dime counting but but let's just say it was a smooth transition where

Andreayou made the token offer he accepts said token offer there's no like weird it wouldn't be a deal breaker but I would hope in the long run I wouldn't come to bite me in the ass because

Andreausually it shows me that they might be a little bit cheap or you know have different not cheap but different values I'm like a really generous person so are you yeah even though your offers of I

Andreatold you just the first payment the first date the first time we hang out isn't that don't you think that's a bit arbitrary

Andreaquestion why would you expect the man to have like respect for you and he doesn't really know you or anything like that oh it's just like if even with a friend if you're inviting them out you know a family member anyone you expect actually

Brian Atlaswell I mean it depends the context but I mean if I go get food with a friend yeah hold on what do you mean I was like if I go out with my friend you want to grab

Andreasomebody usually pay for our own meal unless it's okay yes if I'm inviting like a friend out like I just mean in general I think it's just a nice thing to do for someone and especially in a dating system but wouldn't you be but that would be a nice thing for you to do

Brian Atlasthen to pay for as well yeah but I guess it's a little bit traditional okay but so just to be clear so you make the offer so you verbalize the offer you're like oh can I

Brian Atlashow would you say it you sure you don't or we can do half half or I'll reach and be like okay oh you'll reach for the purse okay so let me ask you a question do you think

Brian Atlascommunication is important in a relationship yes okay with that well you're quite I mean women often complain about men are not great communicators men you know they're

TTS Readeryou know communication is so important but you doing this token thing is you quite literally not to donated 100 she is generous but our explanation of her

TTS Readerthought process is the definition of avarice I think you should really know yourself and accept your own opinions not lie yourself that's the only way to move forward and improve smile much love Bree

Brian Atlasyo Apostle Victor hey thank you man very much appreciated thank you for the TTS um so you know isn't it poor communication skills to say one thing

Brian Atlasbut mean the other in other words to make an offer to pay even though you would that would be pretext for you to know if he took you up on said verbalization to take you up on the

Brian Atlasliteral words that came out of your mouth that would be cause to either be negative brownie points or just a full-on deal breaker isn't that poor communication yes Tech ly but I think also it's a

Andreacultural thing it's to say it's the same way people if you go to a guest house oh can I help you with anything oh can I help you know bring out some things I feel like sometimes it's just a polite way of doing something but if they take you up

Andreaon the offer are you looking down on them like are are you do you have the right to be upset that they took you on the offer I wouldn't never be like upset like well you just said you wouldn't

Malloryit's not a match culturally right like I don't want to be with someone that doesn't have the same thought process that's fair and you're tricking him though because you're giving him the idea that you are someone who is willing to go 50 50 you should be up front and

Andreasay Hey I want a man to pay for me it's entrapment I don't know though is that even I don't I don't know is that isn't that kind of not reach for the wallage there's any problem with girls wanting

Mallorymen to pay for the first time how she go about it you should just tell them hey when we go on a first date I expect a traditional man I don't know

Andazalet the guy be like hey you're gonna pay half of this so I can be like then he'd be like Oh I'm gonna pay half and then I'd be thinking about it so the uh the the the the point of the first date

Michael Sartainactually you know I actually like the way my boys ARCA said it he said the point of the first date is to bring anxiety to zero and so if you're on if you're having a date with a girl and there's a question over who should pay you should just pay so anxiety goes to

Michael Sartainzero that's always the way I've done it in fact one of the things I've done is if there's a group of us uh well this is something I learned from Justin Waller he does this too we'll get up and we'll go find the uh wait the waitress and

Michael Sartainwe'll give her our credit card before the dinner's even halfway done so we're we'll try to pay for it so when the check comes it's already been paid for and like we'll try to beat each other to go pay for it because that's what we do

Michael Sartainthat's that's I have chosen traditional gender roles in my relationship if that's not what you want if you want a polyamorous relationship or if you're in a relationship where she's your sugar mama then you can choose that as well in my relationship I have chosen

Priyatraditional gender roles where I pay for my girlfriend stuff and if my girlfriend has a girlfriend probably pay for her stuff too sure for me for me personally I always go on first dates with the idea something that

Priyarange or anything like that I always go in with the mindset that I will probably pay but it's obviously like with other like romantic gestures it's really nice if they do pay but it's not necessarily expected like in New York and we're like

Mia Lynnwhere I live in New York like that it's like one of the most expensive like yeah in the world so like to expect a man to like just cover like a 250 date is like a lot on the first date when he doesn't even know you and he's in he's investing

Mia LynnThat Into You like not knowing where things are going to the spot that's how you gotta talk to Heavy Hitters I mean that's just New York I mean you go to a nice dinner you go get street tacos that's true but like go in your budget a lot of the times like men will choose

Mia Lynnthe place because they want to do they want to have a nice gesture they want to do something nice but I have a lot of men that talk to me and say like what how do I tell a girl like when do I tell a girl that I want to go 50 50 because I

Michael Sartaincan't do this anymore I'm breaking my pocket like but like they want to put on that sort of facility let me explain this because I have this for my clients so I one of the things I teach in my program is how to get comps like how to show up with like 10 girls a big thing

Michael Sartainin Los Angeles Miami and Los Angeles in Las Vegas is if you have 10 girls or five girls with you they just give you a comp bottle they'll give you copper rooms they'll give you comp dinner and the guys that I that I teach this a lot of times are like they're trying to do it every day so they don't have to pay

Michael Sartainfor dinner and I tell them to stop bro if the problem is you're worried about taking a girl to dinner then let's stop worrying about girls and worry about your money for a while this is a problem so because what that means is

Michael Sartainyou got money up to three but you're but you or you got girls up to a three but money's at one right now girls are up at a seven but money's at two no money needs to catch up to girls or surpass girls actually the better thing is for

Michael Sartainit to surpass so if money's at one and girl your skill with women are like at a five money needs to catch up stop worrying about like oh what do I say to this girl Let's Chill on that person let's learn uh let's learn a skill let's

Michael Sartainbecome valuable let's make more money first and not have to worry about that situation I'm not saying lead with money to get women but if you take a woman on a date and you're tripping over the bill let's make more money

Mia Lynnwhat about the average man that's like that doesn't that makes the average salary and like you know this is inevitably not gonna be the top one percent no no one no one no one it's not

Michael Sartainno one has the privilege not everyone has to live in Manhattan right you understand living in Manhattan like then just don't live in Manhattan I don't live in Manhattan because I just think like I can afford it but I think about

Michael Sartainall the time and money that is wasted on HOA fees and incredible like expensive Uber rides that's why I don't live in that City I live in Las Vegas with no state income tax it's still because it's

Michael Sartainmy money that's the reason why I do it no one has to live no one made you live in Manhattan leave Manhattan move to Scottsdale the women are prettier and it's a lot less expensive move to Orange County move to Dallas move to Tampa Bay

Michael Sartainmove to San Antonio moved to Austin move to a place where there's beautiful women and it's not that expensive I would stay the out of lower Manhattan there's no way I would live there I don't think men should pay for First Dates really oh hot take hot day so have you have you

Eileenaever been on a date with someone and not paid for it the first date personally I pay for my own so you've never you've been in a situation where you haven't paid for her yes I have been on dates where I've paid but

Brian AtlasI've saved a lot of money let me just say that well this was a so to you saving money is more important than how the day goes well look listen I'm I and I I would advise men that

Brian Atlasthat this strategy will like the best thing that you can do is despite the potential chance of you feeling like a sucker

Brian Atlasif you want to min max your success when it comes to women you ought to pay for the first date however for me it's more a matter of principle like there's a whole bunch of things that you could in

Brian Atlastheory min max to to elevate your chances of sleeping with a woman dating her having a success whatever um but I think your integrity at some

Brian Atlaspoint you know you could sip for a girl and get the through simping maybe like like that might work I don't recommend I certainly don't recommend doing that either I certainly don't recommend doing it but

Brian Atlasthere are certainly like certain things that a guy could do in an effort to get which would either contravene his his own value system or like put him in

Brian Atlaslike a week position and and so my whole thing is yeah I'll just finish this up my whole my whole thing is is that there the way that a lot of people move nowadays first off you got foodie calls so girls be

Brian Atlasgoing on dates with dudes just for a dinner they're bored they don't have a genuine interest in the guy the second thing is is people are dating multiple people at this point I mean you are dating two guys or whatever the granted it's it seems like you're being

Brian Atlasethical about it and you're upfront so that's that's fair so however there are women who are not ethical about the fact that they've got five seven dudes that they're dating they're three dudes they're two dudes they're

Brian Atlasone other dude the dating meta is so it's it's uh up beyond all repair Fubar and uh you know as a for both men and women you have to go into a situation with a new

Brian Atlasperson you don't know them it's plot it's could very well be the case that that guy you're going on a date with has three chicks he's he's so you got to protect yourself and likewise men if you're going on a date with a girl

Brian Atlasbro you guys might have some girlfriends you know move in like some shady ways that are that got five dudes they're they've got three dudes who are for food a dude who's

Brian Atlastheir Uber in their phone food in the phone so you don't pay for a first date all the time because of the possibility that they're talking to other people and pretty much because because you don't get boyfriend treatment until you're

Brian Atlasuntil you're only talking to me if you're talking to other guys they can pay for your I'm not going to pay so when someone's your girlfriend you then take on the role of pain if you're committed to me then then I will fall into people show their two colors when

Audiyou don't give them what they want if you if you don't pay for everything if you don't give them everything they want people with interest are still going to come around it might be an eyebrow razor but it would be like all right let me

Andazasee where you're going with this big guy because you know what I mean wait what I don't like I don't mind like I like I said when you have your own money you're not like oh I need a guy to pay for me

Andazaso it's like you don't pay for the first day I'm definitely gonna be like that was strange but I like you so let's see sure like we're gonna have a problem trust me this this loses me girls so like maybe most of you guys

TTS Readerdon't but like I honestly I'm the type of guy like like for example I'll intentionally like if if there's something funny I could say on a date I'ma say that like and then

TTS Readerdonated 100 I have more to say on that relationship is usually trial and error you go to a date not with the expectation to find your life partner

TTS Readerjust to test the waters saving money on the other hand is part of a final goal you should act your best but respect your principles on a date

Michael Sartainyeah so yo Victor plus I think so so the answer is go to El Dorado go to uh like uh Arkansas go to a barbecue place against the thing what I'm saying like don't go to catch don't go to catch don't go to Masters in Newport

Michael Sartainthat's the point like there's other ways to do this but like no I like I I want traditional I want something traditional for my girl so I act traditional as a man that's the thing do you think men should pay on the first date then they don't have to don't know let's make this

Michael Sartainvery clear I I deal with what is and not what ought I talk about descriptions not prescriptions he's right if you want to admit min max meaning the highest percentage of women you end up hooking up with you should pay on the first date but I don't have any problem with Brian

Michael Sartainsaying he doesn't want to because he has principles that says says otherwise I have just my dating life has been so good like I really enjoy going on dates I really I love it I I have a lot of

Michael Sartainsuccess on dates that for me I don't ever see it as like me throwing away money and I always go on dates to play like have you guys ever had the butter cake at mastros has anybody had the butter cake at Mastro's holy

Michael Sartainit is so if you like mastros go to stake 48 or or the or the apple crumble they have it at SDK it is so good I go to places where I'm super excited to go anyway yeah and so that's the thing or a lot of times my first date is to go ax

Michael Sartainthrowing I like ax throwing that's just something I really I'm really good at actually so I'll go to something like that to where I would go to this thing even if she wasn't there there's a place called Area 15 in Vegas that I go to I go do things on my first date that I

Michael Sartainwould have done anyway my biggest one is I love dead mouse on stage at zuke so I'm gonna go on stage at Deadmau Suzuka go to go to see Steve Aoki over at Omnia to me those dates cost zero because I get on up on stage for free but that's something I was gonna do anyway

Brian Atlassometimes that's my first date yeah so yeah and just to add to that like I don't I don't think anybody like if as a guy you want to pay for the first date I don't think you're wrong like this is just this is just my personal approach to it

Brian Atlasum you know I've I've definitely luckily I've been I haven't been burned too bad and I've never been the guy to like go drop 200 bucks on the first date it's I've always even if I've paid I I'll keep it you know something a little

Brian Atlasmore casual there's plenty of stuff that you you can do on the first date that's either free or like very low cost in any case though I think it's more so just protecting myself because I don't I don't like to feel like I'm a sucker and

Brian Atlasit's actually it is a bit of a screening tool because there are girls in the same way that there are guys who and and I feel for women on this there are guys who will sleep with you who will have zero intention of ever committing to you

Brian Atlasbut they're going to keep you around for so in the same point for the day yep they'll pay for the date in the same way that there are guys that do that

Brian Atlasthere are women that will string you along and keep keep securing attention keep securing like free you know you'll you'll take her to a concert you'll take her you'll give her your attention

Brian Atlasyou'll you'll pay for her maybe you even before like I mean you said you wait three months right to me that's look good for you good for you if you can if you get guys that wait for three months that's great well he's like

Brian Atlaswhipped good job he is a whipped lot of people so you know would you say is it hasn't been a lot of people right that's totally fine but I guess the point I'm trying to make is like a girl

Brian Atlascan like if she's a hustler she can she can get a lot out of you in the three-month period of time and like I'm just cautious of not being caught up in a chick being caught up with the chick

Brian Atlasthat's a user that's using me who's a hustler who just wants a free meal I think I have a pretty good eye for it but you never know because there's definitely some some unassuming

Brian Atlaschicks some shy women you'd never think it but they got they got rosters they got dudes in their phone Uber food like and and they're never gonna give it up so my thing is also the

Brian Atlasother thing is I I wrote this down uh if a girl still is interested in me after I've done this which I don't I mean this is I think society and a lot of people will

Brian Atlasview it as a social faux pas or a non-traditional thing as the guy to not pay it's actually a really good screening tool for the girls who are really down for you and really like you and to be fair it could be like

Brian Atlasmaybe she leans a bit more Progressive in the sense that she's okay with 50 50. it could be that but it could also be even if she is a traditional girl it could be she's so into you that hey she you're She's So Into You She's

Brian Atlasshe's okay with it she's gonna perhaps bend on her rule of the guy should pay for the first date um so it's kind of a screening thing for low interest women if if that's a deal breaker for them they're not that

Brian Atlasinto you because if a woman's really into you she's not she doesn't need romance like and that's a lot of the men that women sleep with they didn't have to take you on

Brian Atlasthree dates they didn't have to do all this for you that kind of comes back to our conversation earlier about girls who slept with certain dudes really quick and then this guy comes along oh you got to take me on four dates and buy me and well you know all this stuff

Brian Atlasso so yeah um okay sorry we stayed on that for uh pretty long here let's let's try to get through these soup chats we had Nathan here hey thank you man 120 no question but uh let's get some

Brian AtlasAirlines for Nathan okay whoops all right puffy Vegas one all right fine let's all right let's let's do massage we'll react to his Instagram really quick puffy Vegas thank you man YouTube YouTubers have a Max of 500 a day have the girls please right on scale

Brian Atlasof one to ten bro I think you're only at 400 brother what's up am I a YouTubers oh no he did 500. okay all right it would be nice we'll be nice he's been generous yeah pull up his IG through streamlabs buddy dude through

Michael Sartainstreamlabs yeah you just you just gave uh 150 you gave 150 to YouTube man yeah that's a math right there okay uh puffy Vegas okay what in the world is happening okay I'll

Brian Atlaslet you ladies go first and then and then I'm like I'm explaining what he's doing wrong wait uh pull up the photo where he's with the two girls let's pull up these these photos no that's right off the gate I'm confused at why you feel it

Michael Sartainnecessary to have all these videos and photos with a bunch of random women oh no yeah but you see the thing is Puffy do you see what they're saying like they can tell these are random women they can tell by your body language and the girls

Brian Atlasbody language that you don't know them up this shit's gonna get Haram up up up up up up up up up up oh hold on

AudiOkay click that one with the kiss no no four days ago no comments either I think he's a Giga chat

Michael SartainI'll give you access to my school server I have a team of guys that will rate your IG and literally help you fix it I promise you a hundred hundred X better 100x you aren't showing compliance on your Instagram that's the problem is

Michael Sartainthat they don't you look like a tourist with hot girl with some girls that don't know you that's what you look like and that's the reason why you're not getting any engagement it's because I saw Puffy's uh YouTube he's real talk he's 54 million views why is this not

Michael Sartaintranslating to Instagram it's because you're not you're not speaking the right language on Instagram you're speaking the YouTube language on YouTube on Instagram you're trying to speak the YouTube language and it's not worth or actually you're trying to speak like a

Michael Sartaindhv pickup language that is that's 2005 bro that is over so like I try bro just hit me up for free I promise you we'll score your whole IG we'll have you fixed up in like literally like a

Michael Sartainweek I I have a question for what's his name puffy puffy Vegas puffy Vegas you know I live in Vegas bro I promise oh yeah dude Mike's in Vegas yeah like an immersion thing for probably the

Michael Sartainprice you paid for all these super chats bro we'll we'll give you we'll we'll take 30 photos of you where you look baller forget all this you need professional photos no more this blurry with bad lighting and girls where you got your arms wrapped around them that is bad game bro I promise you

Priyawe'll fix that in two seconds yeah and women can spot like the disingenuity yeah disingenuine photos on your Instagram yeah just be normal puffy do you like dudes just you know yeah probably all girls girls

Michael Sartainshould always be shown if you if you want to do things like that they should show you compliance and you should not be showing them so much compliance that's that's a big issue what am I the only one at the table that thinks he's a

Andrea10 am I I think he's spent 500 he's a giga Chad like looks what looks yeah he's a chap what do you guys you'd rate himself you guys just not see what I see

Brian Atlasthank you man correct logic of Healthy Man one woman is ten only if she wants you two if ten doesn't want you she's zero you'd take her seven

Brian Atlasokay social proof gets you 10 later than when 10 is good girl three men is always better than woman is this way in this way

Michael Sartainman I think that was a big translation from a different language because your conjugation was kind of weird there man grammarly one more time grammarly it's for you can use it for free it doesn't want you wait woman is 10 only if she's

Brian Atlasa 10 only if she wants you ten yeah so if a woman doesn't want you she says right you know what though what I don't like about like what and John think

Brian Atlasfirst off to buy maybe he's from Dubai uh thank you for your uh donation here well it's in his name uh well that I don't like when dudes are like hitting up chicks and like interested in a chick

Brian Atlasbut if the girl even if the girl like politely turns turns them down yeah the dudes are like well you were ugly anyways that's late yeah that's so lame if like bro if the girl doesn't like it just move on both men and women need to learn

Mia Lynnhow to Oh I thought he was being like wholesome and saying like if she doesn't like you then she's not a 10 anyways like yeah that wholesome yeah he's trying to say like if a girl doesn't like it's not worth it yeah it's like a

TTS Readergirl like you know yeah that's how I read it oh donated 100 woman is 10 only 10 only she

Michael Sartainwants three then seven this is worse seven then three I know he's making fun of it that was good I like that that was worth the hundred dollars that was a that was it

Brian Atlasthat was a good hundred dollars yo Victor thank you yeah thank you for the translation there thank you Victor I appreciate that you've explained it all you've explained it all you have fun you have funnier super Chatters with me man

Brian Atlasyou guys are funny thank you man okay we have some more notes Here for Let's see we had a Rosanna your ex-boyfriend started a car on fi your car on fire on the highway on

Brian Atlasyour 21st birthday the car ended up engulfed in flames so we'll just quickly

Rosanna Pfeifferwell it's just like how did it start on fire how did it happen um fire intentionally so we know one hour away to have like wine before my birthday dinner

Rosanna Pfeifferto be done by X time so we have to make sure and you know we're drinking and then he didn't listen and then we were late and I was like late to my own birthday so we decided to drive over a

Rosanna Pfeifferhundred on the highway so don't let anyone else drive your car and it may have been a little late for an oil change I don't remember it was like no it was like a 99 prism or some like

Rosanna Pfeifferyou know you remember those cars yeah yeah it sounds like um at some point and we were on the highway and then these people on the highway were like sticking out of their like Windows like hey hey and I'm like maybe we should like you know see what

Rosanna Pfeifferthey have to say and they're like your car's on fire I'm like holy like all I could picture was like a movie and it spontaneously like blowing out you know it's like extreme thinking but I was like pull over pull over and

Rosanna Pfeifferit just went up in flames wow and the fire department

Brian Atlasokay I have three more things here and then we're gonna wrap up uh really quick show of hands do any of you object to men caring about body count

Brian Atlasor in other words if your body count I suppose show of hands if if you object not do you care about body count but do you object could some women say well you

Brian Atlasyour my pass is on your business um what you do care that was in the past uh so do you object to men who care about your body count or a woman's body count

Audishow of hands anyone object to men caring about body count I used to you object you objects I just like to share with people that I be seeing um and future with I don't like to share that

Priyatype of personal information with with people I don't see myself dating okay sure that's understandable but if if a potential partner did have an issue with your said body count that's fair okay

Andreaabsolutely yeah I think that was that was the question what about you um I just don't think it's a big deal I guess I know some men clearly think otherwise and also as I've gotten older

Andrearight that doesn't even come up in topic when dating anymore seriously even not for me do you think that do you think that having being with more people has changed you at all

Andreadon't think

Michael Sartain100 like I don't know I don't know that you don't leave me with 100 would change you

Andazawith somebody you're sorry in my pocket um

Michael Sartainthat's literally the closest you can be to somebody you don't think that's not gonna change you a little bit of course I just think it changed I just think it changes women more change you have given some concrete okay okay so so we'll say like this just imagine that there's some

Michael Sartainsort of uh that there is but a neurochemical that allows you to uh bond with somebody with a partner does it make sense okay so it's called oxytocin so let's just say what happens is over time each new partner you have your

TTS Readerability to have that oxytocin release which allows you to bond decreases every time every time donated 100 thank you the lady talking about the driving was harder to follow

TTS Readerthan a squirrel through a forest during nut season it was harder to follow than a Turkish soap opera when you don't speak the language hashtag jokes for 100 that's pretty funny yeah thank you man

Rosanna Pfeifferyeah everybody understood me me but didn't understand your previous thing so yeah I think he was just trying to throw jokes yeah anyway so so neurologically it just

Michael Sartaingets to the point like you take you take a uh you know you take a sticker I take it off the wall then I put the sticker back on I take it off I take it by the the fourth or fifth time the sticker's barely sticking on the wall that's the kind of thing and the thing is when I say that and I say it's not the same for

Michael Sartainmen God that's such a double standard but it is a double standard and it is true studies that show that right yeah for sure the studies that show the thing is like what before I understood evolutionary psychology before I got started reading Dr bus by the way I recommend all of Dr David boss's books

Michael Sartainif you guys want to learn all the stuff I was talking about today um one of the things you you'll find is that there is an evolutionary double standard like men I kept meeting back when I used to I used to be a DJ to strip club and I used to work at 6th

Michael SartainStreet in Austin I used to work in a bunch of bars down there and I would meet these girls who were like young super pretty working on their master's degree everything about them 10 out of 10 and their boyfriends all always had a

Michael Sartaintwo three four hundred body count always and I just noticed that the the men that they would go after it was so asymmetrical they were looking for masculinity in their boyfriends and their boyfriends were looking for femininity in them and so those things

Michael Sartainwere too different like well if I have a body count then she should have a high body count if that's what you want to believe then that's fine but the the math doesn't show that and the the very fact that I say that is so offensive to so many people but unfortunately that is

Mia Lynnwhat the science did or that's what the statistics States yeah I mean oxytocin is inhibited by testosterone and vasopressin essentially makes men like kind of get up right oh sorry Vassar present essentially makes men like it's

Mia Lynnone of the reasons why they like they could get up right after sex like women uh Bond and they want to stay like they're they're looking to stay and Men that's it's just not the same neurochemically

Mia Lynnum but there are many women that just don't have like the oxytocin Network like that works in that way so it really it really does depend woman to woman but overall that is like the truth

Brian Atlasscientifically okay so really quick I'm gonna try to blast through this here okay so a couple of you had some comments on body count I'm just curious like what's your body count I don't know I'm

Brian Atlasnot keeping track plus from plus or minus ten under ten more than that I don't know I literally don't know like I I don't keep track

Mia LynnBuehler Plus plus 10 okay plus 20. no no oh okay excuse me between 10 and 20. okay four

Mia Lynn29. okay um so because I go to church and uh I'm at Mass I like um I view intimacy as like kissing oral you don't have to if you don't want to say you don't know

Mia Lynnhe's asking my bachelor I'm like I'm like I I include like people in my body count that have like kissed penetrative sex 11 people 11 people okay Mike what about you man we ain't going

Brian Atlashere okay you know I'm a man of God I'm a man of God come on I just said it out of respect for myself and my future partner that's not something I'm gonna disclose on the internet okay fair enough all right

Michael SartainBrian how many do you have I respect for a lot of people well like Mike like Mike I'm also a man of God hey I'm curious what number is too high

Eileenafor your partner what number is too high for your partner you find out he was having a conversation like God damn that's too high I don't I just don't like care about like body count like if we're doing

Audisomething and it's us now then the past is your path usually women don't care as much but I'm just curious is there a number that's too high like 300 like triple digits kind of gets icky but it's

Michael Sartainlike if you're the quality person he's really good and bad he has no diseases but he's in triple digits that's a problem I mean it's not it's not a problem but I'm gonna look at it different then you wouldn't break up with the most not a deal breaker no it's

Michael Sartainnot okay what about you triple digits good and bad you don't care you don't care what about you it's a deal so triple digits he's really good and bad but no diseases but that's too many that's too many people you like him and then after like the third time you had sex with him then he tells you he's at

Andazalike 200. maybe I'm like Dan you over girls like

Rosanna PfeifferI was like okay got it okay what do you think sorry I guess that's not a deal breaker but I wouldn't prefer it okay for them to be more selective or conscientious for sure what do you think uh undermine undermine you want it to be

Michael Sartainunder yours you want it to be the number to be okay got it okay go ahead I've never heard that before go what do you think um

PriyaI really don't ask guys their body count I just prefer not to know cool what do you think um I don't particularly think that anybody that holds the values that I would seek out in a partner would have a triple digit body count but it's not a

Michael Sartainquestion I would ask and really concern myself interesting it's again that goes back to the the doctor bus 37 culture study women were always less concerned about a man's body count than the other

Priyaway around what's a like the limit for uh well whatever my girlfriend is at oh it's so romantic there you go well that's that's just men care about a woman's past and

Michael Sartainwomen care about a man's there you go that's what it is there you go there you go she is definitely parabotted let's just say that she's very excited every time I come home let me ask a question Mike would you

Michael Sartainum you know would you prefer a girl who's a virgin so here's here's the only only thing I'm gonna say about that so I know a lot of

Michael Sartainguys supposedly would say yes for me the issue is if you're 21 and you haven't been with anyone I think that's such an unusual thing I don't know man prefer I guess I guess in a vacuum the

Michael Sartainanswer is yes but most likely no because I've had sex with girls that were virgins and it is pretty traumatic so what about in comparison to somebody that had a relatively like high body count yeah well of course I would prefer it right to a high body count but like the thing is like when I'm in my listen

Michael SartainMaybe maybe one like this for you maybe one like this for the rest of y'all but when I was in my 20s and I was going to UT Austin and then I was working at a nightclub I didn't care about a woman's body count because I didn't want to be in a relationship I just wanted to have sex with lots of attractive women I had

Michael Sartaina viewport I had a point in my life remember I'm 45 years old so 20 years ago I was looking to have sex with women and I did not care about their body count what their religious preferences were whether or not they were democrat or republican if they were attractive they wanted to have sex with me I wanted

Michael Sartainto have sex with them now some guys out there might may not admit that you went through that phase too but that was the phase I went there and when I went through that phase if a hundred women had said yes to me I would have said yes back because that was the phase I was

Michael Sartaingoing through it was a whole face but the thing is now it's very different because I find less than one percent of women attractive because physical beauty doesn't mean as much when you host every bikini competition and you used to go to the

Michael SartainPlayboy Mansion it just doesn't mean that much to me anymore so for me it's a little bit different like again sometimes with Kylie and I we're looking for girls to like go talk to and none of them are hot enough for us that's an issue that we have sometimes so I will tell you uh it's it's just like I said

Michael Sartainit's a very different standard it's a very different standard what is hot for you guys for us we just have to we we have to both be attracted um she has a slightly different look

Michael Sartainshe's into than me uh but you know I'm I'm trying to think of it an example I like my girlfriend like girls who look like my girlfriend I'm coming to you know what I'm saying yeah I have a question for you and you sort of mentioned this when it came to the Jonah Hill thing that a guy can't handle a

Brian Atlasgirl showing off her body that's that's insecure um do you think it's insecure if a man prefers a woman with a low body count or for example wants to date a girl who's a virgin I

Andrea[Music] at that okay do you think it's something else um it was more I guess when I when I wrote that it was more towards the Jonah Hill thing with not wanting his uh

Andreagirl being shown in a bikini okay um so it was more like that okay um yeah we don't have to touch too much back on the Jonah Hill thing um oh hey yo Victor thank you from this

TTS Readercore Apostle donated 100 my wife was a virgin when I met her she was 20 we're together for 15 years now and have a beautiful family she was a

TTS Readersmart good-looking girl didn't have any red flags or weird things about herself didn't matter that she was a virgin but wasn't weird

Michael Sartainno no problem with that yeah and um and Mike you were saying how like yeah she's a bit older and she's still a virgin maybe that's a bit I just think I'm not again I'm not saying it's weird but like you had I'm not gonna I it's so mean for me to say this but you had a girl on

Michael Sartainhere last time I was on her and she was like yeah I'm a virgin and I'm like she was very clearly autistic and I was like okay that's why you're a virgin like it's you know I'm talking about shots fired yeah yeah I mean she's like very like she just shots fired it was very clear that she was on spectrum and I was

Brian Atlaslike okay I can see why that girl's a virgin and that's the only thing I think I don't know I mean she claims I that girl was absolutely on the Spectrum well it's uh but I mean I think what was more

Brian Atlasinteresting I mean she does of yeah and I was like I mean I would be concerned if someone's taking advantage of her like that's that's kind of crazy okay uh well wait oh should we pull that back up that that thing

Brian Atlasum actually really quick pull up that um that thing we were because it's semi-related the video of that chick the

Brian Atlasthe Brett Cooper one I don't know if it's we I think we watched most of it just pull it back up

Brian Atlasyeah just just pull it up really quick okay so this girl she's 23 and she said she hasn't even had a first kiss so obviously she hasn't had sex so she's a virgin 23 year old virgin

Brian Atlasum but uh okay so and then go to the next one really quick though next one

Brian Atlasyou gotta click you got click over

Brian Atlasyou did what here f11 then you got beat keep it enough 11. uh oh this is her reacting to it because there are a bunch of news

Michael Sartainarticles about it actually it's the next one over one more it's gonna humiliate you for not man that's crazy bro nobody's humiliating wait

Brian Atlasthat's not really the thing I wanted to talk about though so she she like did another Tick Tock where Tick Tock where it's like me just waiting for a nice boy to come along to date I have him possibly High unrealistic standards and

Michael SartainI'm expecting an epic fairy tale room and in two years so in two years she's gonna realize she's a lesbian that's what's happening here bro like it's just kind of obvious like this is ridiculous you guys I was telling you I had a friend like this she was gorgeous like

Andrea10 on 10 like not even exaggerating everyone objectively thought she was beautiful and she just loved the attention also of not want like not letting any guys

Andreahere and we would ask her like why don't you just kiss you know whoever like you like him he's like no no I want my kiss to be like under the snow then you know it starts to build up now we can't just see any kiss now you've waited till 23

Andreanow it has to be special with the right guy blah blah and she would lead guys on all the time and then be like nope okay I enjoyed it yeah she had a kiss now yeah it's years later

Michael Sartainyeah he cheated on her I just guess of course he did because her expectations were unrealistic and she instead of she either found a top

Brian Atlastier man who's gonna cheat or she found a guy who's really good at running game and then that's what she gets that's what ends up happening yep but it is interesting like I guess in the original Tick Tock that she put I

Brian AtlasI'm trying to remember the exact clip we watched on the Brett Cooper Channel she's like oh yeah I'm 23. I've never had a kiss blah blah blah but like and look she's she's a cute girl whatever but she's whinging about or it's not

Brian Atlaswhinging but she's she's saying like yeah she wants this fairy tale romance and she has like ridiculous standards and like she's kind of an average looking girl like so it's like what do you expect if she wanted

Priyato go out and get a date she absolutely could yeah she could totally get a guy that is um maybe not to her you know theoretically unrealistic standards but that would be

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