She Dated 50 Men In 50 Days?! | Dating Talk #105

Date: 2023-10-02

Duration: 5h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

CClaire (DT105)>

AAlexa (DT105)>

EEmily (DT105)>

SSophia (DT105)>

QQ Jquan (DT139)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS/Chat(audience)

SPEAKER_01Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_02Amy(guest)

SPEAKER_03Claire(guest)

SPEAKER_04Sam(guest)

SPEAKER_05Zoe(guest)

SPEAKER_07Q(guest)

SPEAKER_08Alexa(guest)

SPEAKER_10Sophia(guest)

SPEAKER_12Emily(guest)

SPEAKER_13Lynn(guest)

Key Moments

ControversyQ delivers extended explanation of biological basis for body count double standard using oxytocin, vasopressin, paternity uncertainty, orgasm gap, and sexual disgust research.

“paternity uncertainty... oxytocin and vasopressin... women experience a lot more sexual regret... the orgasm gap... sexual disgust”

OtherEmily reveals ex-boyfriend (cheater) has been mailing her $3k cash and $2k in weed post-breakup for ~a year with no solicitation.

“he's probably watching... he sends me money sometimes and weed... total maybe three grand... probably 2000 in weed”

QuoteBrian pitches scheduling automated 'good morning' texts via iPhone accessibility feature as a hack for forgetful/autistic texters.

“there's a thing in the accessibility section of your iPhone where you can automatically send out a text message every single day at a specific time”

OtherSam reveals during the show she snapped the guy she had sex with 4 days prior and he texted back that he was watching the show.

“I kind of called him in the bathroom... he was like I lowkey wish you mentioned my name”

OtherSophia discloses she has sent 30+ unanswered texts to a man who has gone silent after she moved to California.

“like a lot... how many give me a number... it was never an issue in the past... yes but it wouldn't be all at once”

OtherSam discloses she had ~30 men in her rotation during summer after high school breakup (age 16-17), and received ~$1k from sugar daddy offers on Tinder before getting banned.

“maybe a grand... my rent for my parents... I got banned from Tinder but I got the money”

OtherSophia shares she has had multiple car breakdowns in California and is helped each time because she is a young female, citing female privilege.

“I am more vulnerable so when I'm stuck on the side of the road... I have been very fortunate that everyone who stopped was very nice”

QuoteEmily argues the biggest struggle facing women is men claiming to be women: 'you can be a cow, do whatever you want, but you're not going to be a woman.'

“I think it's actually commendable... the biggest struggle women face is you can just put on some tits and makeup and be one of us”

OtherSophia discloses she has endometriosis, was denied minimally invasive surgery in the US, and had to go abroad for treatment.

“I have endometriosis which is a women's issue... they wouldn't give it to me in the United States I had to go out of the country”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves (name, age, occupation). Each guest describes their current relationship status, longest relationship, and dating history. Covers Zoe's roster, Sam's bipolar diagnosis breakup and hot girl summer, Claire's situationship and virgin status, Sophia's multi-year ambiguous friendship with a divorced man, Amy's 5-year relationship ended by cheating, Lynn's dating app experience.

Texting habits and communication in relationships

Brian admits he does not text daily even in relationships; describes himself as autistic re: utility of texts. Debate on whether consistency in texting signals interest. Brian suggests scheduling automated 'good morning' texts via iPhone accessibility. Discussion of letting someone miss you vs. constant contact.

Body count, pair bonding, and double standards

Discussion of male vs. female body count preferences. Q explains oxytocin/vasopressin science, paternity uncertainty, orgasm gap, and sexual disgust as biological explanations for gender differences. Debate on whether the double standard is actually a 'different standard.' Emily's story about ex-boyfriend who cheated then mailed cash and weed post-breakup. Sam's sugar daddy experiences on Tinder.

Brian's ideal woman list

Brian reads from written notes his preferences: any race (slight preference Asian/white women), petite, no plastic surgery, minimal makeup, large labia preference, introverted/quiet personality, no heavy drinking, low body count (under 10), no cluster-B personality disorders (BPD, NPD, HPD, APD). Spirited debate from panel on whether these preferences are reasonable or a double standard.

Mental illness, therapy, and relationship compatibility

Sam discloses bipolar type 1; ex left her because of it. Debate on whether mental illness is a reasonable dating disqualifier. Brian says he prefers no major mental disorders but acknowledges exceptions. Q argues personality disorders recur in relationships and therapy is insufficient. Claire discusses panic attacks and benefit of therapy for communication. Brian shares his own anxiety/panic attack history and preference for solution-focused approaches over talk therapy.

Herpes, STD risk, and dating disclosure

Recurring donor 'Jay Butler' asks whether panel would sleep with / date someone with genital herpes. Panel goes around: most say deal-breaker or heavily conditional. Discussion of legal liability for non-disclosure. Sophia says only her future husband matters; Claire says strongly committed relationship might be exception. Brian says 100% deal-breaker. Q defers briefly.

Female privilege, male gaze, and body standards

Zoe cites Barbie movie monologue about impossible beauty standards for women. Brian and Q argue men face more uncontrollable physical criteria (height, penis size, balding). Discussion of 'male gaze' vs female gaze. Panel surveys percentage of men they find physically attractive (responses range from 2% to 60%). Emily argues biggest struggle facing women is biological males claiming female identity. Discussion of wage gap being debunked vs. earnings gap nuance. Sophia discusses endometriosis surgery being denied in US while gender-affirming surgery is accessible.

Transgender identity and dating preferences

Panel discusses definition of 'woman.' Most panel members define as adult human female / XX chromosomes. Claire distinguishes trend-based vs. genuine gender dysphoria. Debate on whether a man declining to date a trans woman who has had bottom surgery is prejudice or preference. Brian explains genitalia preference; eventually panel largely agrees preference is valid.

Abortion, Christianity, and foster care

Sophia (pro-life, Christian) and Claire (pro-choice, Christian) debate abortion. Sam distinguishes irresponsible casual sex abortions vs. difficult-circumstance abortions. Amy suggests funding should go to foster care instead of Planned Parenthood. Claire discloses personal experience in the foster care system.

Gun ownership and closing segment

Donation question: would any girls date a man who legally owns a firearm. Sam says she would not feel comfortable with a gun in the house given her mental health. Most others are neutral or conditionally OK. Show wraps with quick body count round-robin: Zoe=0, Sam=no comment (over 10 implied), Claire=0, Emily=one hand/1, Sophia=1, Amy=3, Lynn=not stated, Brian pleads the fifth.

Transcript

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Brian Atlaswomen with big asses however like most I would say most men that's not like there are some men who just have a big titty fetish whatever like that's I think that's really not going to be

Brian Atlasfirst off you don't want to be with a guy that doesn't like you the way you are obviously you should take good care of yourself you should be in good shape you should uh you should have good hygiene

Brian AtlasEtc but like if I think I think you've spoken on this Quee and we have Nick over here like you have three men sitting in front of you I earlier I said I don't like women with

Brian Atlasplastic surgery I don't I even said it's it's not even like I really want a girl with fake uh with big boobs I said I would prefer a girl with small boobs I'd prefer a girl with a little belly than

Brian Atlaslipo belly I'd prefer a girl with small upper lip than lip fillers I'd prefer a girl with like a smaller ass than than with a BBL and Q know about you but I

Emilyyou're not you're not a fan of plastic surgery a fan of any alterations I so you got three guys here that aren't really into plastic surgery and the majority of men could think like that too but it's just as women we have

Emilypraised these these women the famous ones that do it so much we think oh that's the that's what I have to do I have to look like them I need to be like them I need to get the money like them all the men will like me like they like them but it's like the most but like

Emilymost men like you said don't actually care about that they don't actually like that but we see the famous women doing that and it's what we admire and we want to be like them refined Randy donated

TTS/Chat99 are men or women lacking more nowadays in terms of husband/father and wife slother and explain your take bring

Brian Atlasback Chase Mary and josanne on the same panel # Christ is King amen yo Randy thank you very much man appreciate it um are men or women lacking more nowadays I

Brian Atlasmean I think both men and women are I don't I'm not trying to play a blame game here where it's like just like I think both men are lacking and I think women are lacking I think we both got to

Amylevel up um did you want to finish your point really quick or did you kind of have it I don't remember that's that's can I add something I do think that it is a lot harder for men because us women

Amyput the expectation on things that men cannot physically change besides maybe like working out okay but like in terms of like penis size and like height that's something us women put the pressure on men for on the other hand us

Amywomen we're the ones who willingly choose to scroll on social media and compare ourselves to other to other girls like the guy said they guys will praise anything yeah and and that's

Brian Atlasthat's kind of what I was saying earlier is that when it comes to like judging other people just on a purely physical basis in terms of what we find attractive physically in the opposite sex again my my position would be women

Brian Atlashave far more criter IA when it comes to physical attractiveness for men that are completely outside of men's control height penis size balding sexual stamina sexual function a lot of these things

Brian Atlasare totally outside of men's control whereas like what the the big thing I'd say with women is weight and that's within your control men don't really care about your height women don't

Brian Atlasreally bald so that's not a factor so when it comes to hair that's totally not a factor with women um this is going to be kind of vulgar loose is not nearly as prevalent

Sophiaas men with like average or below average penis size that's it plus Keel you can fix that just saying okay I didn't mean to take it there but to answer the Super Chat I think that um the sexual

Brian AtlasRevolution is screwing all of us over or has screwed us all over also on the physical front I would argue that physical disability is a far bigger disadvantage for men that it is for women isn't it sad we're only talking about physical appearance though and not

Brian Atlaswho people actually are like I mean physical attraction huge that be said why as her here let me just finish my point here physical disability far

Brian Atlasbigger disadvantage for men so first uh sexual function for men with spinal cord injuries whereas a woman you can still I mean you can still I guess um I would argue a woman in the

Brian Atlaswheelchair could get laid far easier than than a man in a wheelchair I'd say she could get laid more easily than an able-bodied dude dude why if you can't run away also

Brian Atlasmales who are not uh neurotypical are going to struggle far more than women when it comes to dating to so there's a whole bunch of things um is there anything else from the Barbie movie though that you wanted

Zoeto okay Barbie movie was just an example I think everyone should watch the clip of the woman I don't know what part it was in but she's explaining like the

Zoestruggles that women go through anyway um but that's like appearance and all that is is really not like the biggest sure thing it's also like the wage Gap

Zoewhen women are work like women work in the same field as a man and a man gets paid more what is like what is that about and just the wage gap's been debunked a million times yeah it doesn't

Zoeexist yeah did they they mention the wage Gap in the movie I I think they did but um I don't really remember exactly

Brian Atlasbut the there is there's not a wage Gap there's an earnings Gap app and the earnings but like it's a very you basically the whole like Trope of women

Brian Atlasmake 75 cents to a dollar it's the numers always changing that doesn't account for like dozens of different factors it's basically comparing all the money that men make and all the money

Brian Atlasthat women make in this country without factoring in people that don't work hours work hours worked leave um overtime overtime it's also type of

Alexaprofession it just it's across the board also if a woman takes time off of maternity leave so say you take decide to stay at home and raise your kid for 2 3 years you were two or three years behind in your career like that is a

Alexafactor you have to faceh and as far as the Barbie movie it it does talk about like cuz because I did see it and I actually do like the monologue that she says I do think it has this idea of it you everyone is held to such a high

Alexaexpectation that's not achievable and they're shamed when they can't even get near it it's like if someone's overweight and they're working out in the gym people make fun of that that person but that person's trying to B themselves in that and for women I would

Alexasay where we do struggle is we live in a society where it's we you know we try to own our sexuality we're we you know we try to do this and then we're criticized and crucified by public if we don't or

Alexaif we do and then at the same time it's like if we're this you know Qui shy girl you know it's something that people don't necessarily always think is the most appealing thing or or if you're the Plain Jane is like an insult for people

Alexabut it I would say it's both sides cuz if you don't like a girl and and I've called some friends out for this looks aren't everything you should really get to know a person but why is it that when a woman makes an insult to another woman the first thing she comments as her

Qlooks because women are more aware of each other than anybody else and that's what I just said women are P problem intersexual competition yeah it's intersexual competition actually isn't

Brian Atlasthe first insult a woman's going to say to another woman is she's a yeah yes is that the go that is true so um

Zoeintrinsic awareness of Body Count can I quickly add one more thing sure um I just I remembered in the monologue it says like if you're too skinny well like

Zoeyou're not good enough if you're and then if you like gain weight you're not good enough if you it's like you can never as like you can never be good

Zoeenough in that's just it's just untrue it's just untrue like no okay put it putting it simply of course like you can be good enough but it's like in this

Zoeworld that we live in with all these standards like physically sometimes you can't like live up to like the perfect standard you can't live up to the

Emilyperfect standard well that's just comes down to acknowledging that you're not perfect yeah and there's hundreds of different standards everybody else has a different standard of like what they want somebody else to be but to continue to compare yourself is just putting

Emilyyourself further and further back of being eventually confident and like having that like you don't need to compare yourself to other people and if a woman's like struggle I just I feel

Emilylike to base struggles for women solely to appearance is kind of disrespectful like I feel like that's not yeah that's not well but that's kind of all you've been mentioning is appearance and a wage Gap that doesn't exist when I would say

Emilylike the biggest struggle women face is people saying that you can just become a woman that's in my opinion the biggest struggle women face is you can just put on some tits and makeup and be one of us

Sophiabut I yeah I don't believe in that and I think that's the biggest struggle we face I age agree okay I mean I respect that but while we're on the subject of uh appearances and attraction can I say something real quick really quick okay

Sophiaso I think I have a different take so I think that um men are a lot more Visual and women are a lot more emotional so yes men will be looking for that uh physical attraction a lot more and and you said like women also but I think

Sophialike personally and uh and a lot of my friends that I know like we don't really like if a guy has a good personality that's what we find attractive looks are kind of like secondary but you have to actually get to know that person in person so like on a dating app you know

SophiaI just see like a baling guy and I'm like oh swipe left whatever but then if I were to like meet that same guy in person and he had a very Charming personality then I maybe I wouldn't mind that he was balding there's a same I mean you can say that and look there is

Brian Atlassomething to be said that men are a little more visually focused women are a bit more a little bit more personality but I would I would actually argue that that looks are very important to both and

Brian Atlasagain like my position my position would be is women are actually far pickier than men when it comes to physical appearance because there's so many things that women care about that are absolutely out of the control of men

Brian Atlasheight penis size physical size like for example I think the men find a far wider range of body types yes appealing like you've got thick you've got skinny

Brian Atlasyou've got fit whereas like a skinny guy like I would say if you look at a woman who's skinny well I skinny can mean different things to different people but

Brian Atlasa woman who's H has no uh Gym training who's not an athlete she could like an 18-year-old woman could just be exist and have an attractive body but like most

Brian Atlaswomen an 18-year-old guy who isn't an athlete or doesn't have some Ree of muscular development like just a straight up skinny dude that's not attractive to most women so I think

Brian Atlasthere's a far narrow narrower range that men can fall into to be deemed physically attractive um I I mean I actually want to go around the table on this really quick what percentage of men that you see on dating apps or that you

Brian Atlassee in real life do you find physically attractive like what percentage would you say you find physically attractive probably

Brian Atlaslike 50 like maybe like 60% of them wow okay what about you 60% of the men you find physically attractive 50 60 okay what about you well it's kind of like like explain a little bit more here

Brian Atlashere's a different on the dating app right because obvious like if you're out in the streets you're going to see people that are outside your age cohort let's say on dating apps right what percentage of men do you swipe yes on I

Brian Atlasdon't have da any da okay what about you 15% 15% what about in the street how many what percentage of men you find physically

Claireattractive I'd say like 35 okay what about you that's a really hard question I feel like mine would be like 1520

Sophia1520a I'm low it's maybe like 5% 5% yeah you pick it I can say same um I would say very low because when I look at somebody I usually don't think most people are attractive but for me it's

Sophiavery like if I'm emotionally attracted to you then I will become physically attracted to you as well same yeah okay um I'm not on any dating apps but on the street it's very low maybe 10 but like

Sophiayou could have like in my case like you could have like perfect body whatever and I still won't find you attractive because I don't know your personality just saying um also I I do got to get going it is a little bit yeah we're going to wrap up here in just a sec

Brian Atlaswe'll wrap up here in just a sec um so you said 10% yeah on the street because I don't have a dating apps so you find 10% men physically attractive it's very

Lynnrare for me L what about you um when I was on dating apps I was probably swiping right on like uh like 10% okay can I add something sure

Zoeputting it in the perspective of like in a classroom like at my school I feel like I would think like 50% of the boys in my classroom are attractive so just that's where my reasoning from okay sure

Sophiasure um so I mean 5% you said even a really could be like a 10 out of 10 and like I still won't find him attractive because like I don't like I don't know I have like a specific

Sophiatype like okay maybe like I don't know 2% if like somebody like really catches my eye but like when when girls in Middle School like drooling over the guys in magazines I was just like I don't know I don't see it that's just too like if you're too attractive I will not go near you I think a lot of girls

Lynnthough yeah like if you're too hot like it makes you less hot if you're really hot it makes you less hot like um like conventionally attractive men like I don't find them attractive

Brian Atlasokay fair enough um was there anything else with the Barbie movie P was there patriarchy was it I don't remember though I think everyone should watch the monologue and yeah that's all I say um I

Brian Atlaswant to come back to something you really said or you said you said that the biggest thing that's facing women is what was it people putting on a

Clairecostume and trying to be us Claire do you have anything on that I mean obviously I I don't agree with it I I don't know what else to say to I mean that's just what you think

Emilygirl and I don't think that same way but yeah multiple people don't agree with that but I mean it's just like a matter of fact it doesn't matter what you put or wear in your body if you're a biological male you'll never be a female

Claireor a woman so I mean you can dress up like one like you can dress up like a mime but it's the same thing it's a costume okay but a a m dress is up for a performance that's also the same thing in my op you

Brian Atlasthink it's a performance yeah you don't think it's genuinely how they feel in their core um I think I think most of the time which way this way no no to

Brian Atlasthat way scoot it closer towards you no no no not you sorry it's just the microphone was her face was blocked go ahead go ahead oh I think you were in the middle of talking or was oh yeah um

Emilyyeah I do absolutely think it's a performance and I think that most of these times these people are assigned an affirming therapist they're not actually looking into anything deeper into their into their life they're just saying oh okay you you think you're a woman all

Emilyright here's some hormones here's some sexual reassignment surgery here's a way to make me and my company some money I'm pretty sure they have to do a psychological evaluation before no not really I've there's so many Jour you should really look into stories of

Emilypeople talking to private journalists people who have transitioned come back years later that sue their parents and their doctors for letting them okay so you're talking about children let's talk about adults that's a completely subject

Emilybut the entire world isn't on that page with you where they like to lump them into each other so the rest of the country doesn't believe that there's a distinction between that they think that children have every right half the

Emilycountry doesn't think that way means I shouldn't think that way no I this is my opinion we're talking about my opinion right so my opinion is that you cannot wear a costume and become a somebody else's G I don't think no matter how

Emilymany breasts a man puts on no matter how many hormones he takes no matter how many dresses he wears he's never never going to be a woman he'll never have my experience as a woman and he'll never be able to have children or procreate or be a mother like a woman so what offends

Emilyyou when someone identifies as and why does it offend you it offends me because you're trying to be me and you're not me they're not trying to be you they don't want to be you trying to be women they

Emilyno wait so so why so why does it offend you cuz they're trying to be they're not trying to be you it offends me because the country can't distinct with the fact that like you can be a cow that's fine do whatever you want but you're not

Emilygoing to I'm not done talking so you can be a cow do whatever you want but I don't think it's right to let biological men live in sororities with other females I don't think it's right to let them into bathrooms with other females I

Emilydon't think it's right to let them play sports with females and win against them I think that's wrong so when nobody else likes to distinct realize that with just being a woman yeah there's there's a

Clairebigger conversation that needs to be had okay sure I mean I agree with Emily okay I think there's a I think is a a very important distinct okay I should we wrap am I are we going over time or it's okay we we'll talk about it for a bit then

ClaireI'll wrap up okay okay cool yeah I don't want to take up all your time that's good go ahead I have one last question afterwards and then we're done I know guys we're we'll get out of here soon this shit's getting deep yeah I was just going to say I think there's an important distinction and I was watching

Clairea video on this the other day and agree with important distinction between people who are doing it because it's a trend and then people who are genuinely trans and I think people who are doing that as a trend ruin the the

Clairerepresentation of actual trans people and the image of actual trans people who feel like I'm not comfortable in my body I don't think this is the body I was supposed to be born in right you know right that's that's but I believe that's

Emilya mental illness and I believe that needs to be looked at yes a lot deeper and not just reaffirmed into okay yeah take this surgery take these hormones and potentially ruin your life so I think we're doing those people with gender dis for a huge disservice because

Sophiait is a very serious surgery and I find it personally offensive because they talk about like like oh if you're a transgender you can get this like like big surgery and when I like as a woman for like uh endometriosis which is like

Sophiaa a women's issue um I needed uh surgery which is a minimally invasive surgery they wouldn't give it to me in the United States I had to go out of the country and then even when it comes to abortion they say oh it's a women's right Women's Healthcare whatever no they don't care about women's health and they don't care about women's right

Sophiabecause they didn't give or they don't care about women's choice because they didn't give me the choice to get the treatment that is the closest thing that we have to a cure they said no here go on birth control pills and I said absolutely not I'm not going to take birth control pills for the rest of my

Sophialife and uh yeah but what does that have to do with trans people um it's all related it's all related they talk about like um like I just find it very offensive because like I don't know why you trans trans people can get surgery

Sophiaso easily I couldn't get surgery and then also just abortion is like a side note it's all related like they say they care about women but they don't okay uh maybe here here's a

Brian Atlasquestion I'm going to try to fuse that into the dating thing do you think it's uh do you think it's wrong for a man to not want to date a

Clairetransom do I think it's here um when it okay I don't think it's necessarily wrong especially when it comes to like the sexual aspect because

Claireyou there might be a guy that's like okay let me try this relationship with a transwoman who may still have you know male biological body parts for some people they might might just not be able

Brian Atlasto get over that hump which is like I feel like is understandable um so yeah I think again it all comes to preference and standard what what about if they got the surgery

Brian Atlasto to change but I still couldn't get over that part so they had a I don't what they gender reassignment surgery well what's

Brian Atlasthe term I don't know um bottom surgery yeah um yeah would that would that also be be would you object to that like oh I don't

Brian Atlaswant to be with someone who has the in what's it called the inverted I don't know what it's called gender reassignment surgery no there's a term for the medical term bottom surgery I

Clairedon't know the medical term whatever the surgery right would you object to that do I object to that yeah I mean I mean yeah I probably would object to that I mean cuz that person's like a woman and

Claireyou say you're attracted to women so had to get no they're not a woman in your opinion um wait let is it yeah it's related okay go

Lynnahead go ahead um so what were the four things that you said one of them was children right that's totally hold on that's not related that's not related to what you just said no it is for like if

Lynnyou if because children is one of the important things in a relationship and if you meet someone and if you really want kids like if you want your own

Lynnbiological kids from your partner yeah then that's fine that so like to say like oh even if you've like if you've transitioned but you still won't date me that's not fair I mean if someone really wants biological children it is fair

Lynnokay then that's a standard they say I want a partner who can have biological children with me yeah but like the only person fit that is going to be someone who's trans your definition of woman is extremely different my definition of a

Emilywoman is someone with a uterus who can have children and I mean some women can have children and that's very sad but there's still a woman because of every hormone their brain body and every bone in their body is female it has to do

Brian Atlaswith chromosomes I I have a since I want to come back to the whole dating like trying to focus it on dating what is a woman and I want to start with you we'll go around the

Zoetable great um a woman is someone who I like identifies as a woman I don't really

Samknow we'll let everybody finish go ahead it's kind of like I'm not really like one side or the other side it's like I'm not against trans people never

Samwill be like that's asking for I would say a woman is somebody who is capable to have children but at the same time people can also identify

Samas a woman I don't I don't have a problem with that sure you do you but I truly know that I am a woman I can have children I get a period every month like

Brian AtlasI yeah well I mean I would also I would just point out that there are there are women who are infertile for example there's still women even though they can't have children but go ahead uh I defin I want to clarify this because I

Clairedon't want to I don't want it to seem like Oh I'm a woman today but a man tomorrow that's to me like I said there's an important distinction and to me that's someone who's following it for the trend to me a woman is someone who

Claireidentifies with it and like that is identifies with what identifies as being a woman but not just like any day of the week that they feel like like they're it's part of their identity okay yeah an

Brian Atlasessential part identifies as so so what is a woman what is a woman you accepted her answer why is my answer not acceptable your answer your answer is

Brian Atlasmake sure I'm making sure I'm understand a woman is a woman who identifies as a woman with some degree of continuity so it's not just okay Monday I'm a man Tuesday okay so there needs to be some

Brian Atlascontinuity it needs to be part of your ident like you genuinely feel like I do not feel like I was supposed to be born in this body so a woman a woman is a is someone who identifies as a woman

Alexaessentially essentially okay what about you I think for a woman it is someone I I don't even want to say I want to say can I I don't want to say can have children because there are women who

Alexacan't have children I still do identify those as women I identify trans people as a trans woman because you have an entire different past than a woman who was born that way and I think that's a big distinction people I age with that

Alexapart for sure yeah because I think it's it's it's I I do get upset sometimes when someone says I'm a woman and it's because our experiences are different I I recognize a woman if someone says I am a transom and this is how I identify I respect the hell out of that and the

Alexachoices that they made whether or not they make the surgery or not but they have a completely different upbringing than than mine I would Age you have to recognize it's it's sort of like when people say I don't see color that's kind of the problem is cuz you're not

Brian Atlasrecognizing someone's background and what they had to do for where they're at they have a completely different experience I recognize that for sure I mean not to derail the conversation but

Brian Atlaslike wasn't that Martin Luther King's whole thing to be colorblind color blind in a sense but okay let's not go down that's just that's a whole another can of worms what

Emilyabout what is a woman a woman I don't think I really need to answer this it's somebody who was born as a female

Amyand is a female today it's pretty simple a woman is a human person with two ex chromosomes Amy a woman is someone with

Amyfale chromosomes you said XX right I was kind of confused with which one was xx and XY but um someone who is able to produce uh kids someone who has gets a

Brian Atlasperod every single month with a vagina well some women don't have yeah don't have periods uh Lynn what about you um a

Brian Atlaswoman is someone with XX chromosones okay uh q a woman is an adult human female that's also my definition a woman is an adult human female okay what

Emilyyou're you're smiling you're laughing at that I think I'm just saying I'm just saying thumbs up that's all yeah I think I would agree with with her on the transwoman topic I would consider them trans women not women because there is a

Emilydifference a woman is a adult human female and now that everybody wants to say gender is a construct they want to deconstruct structuralized the entire society that we've lived in since we

Emilywere the conception of humans literally we have always gone by male female genders and now that everybody wants to diminish that and just oh what's a woman what's a what's a kid what's like that

Emilydoesn't make it we know what a woman is a woman is an adult human fale you know you think you know what it is yeah I know what it is and I know that a lot of other people are confused yes okay okay

Brian Atlasso bringing it back to the dating thing you said that you would object to somebody if they've undergone bottom surgery a guy not wanting to date a

Brian Atlastrans woman who has undergone bottom surgery you would object to that yes can you articulate your reasoning

Brian Atlasand logic I I I mean what's the question like but it's well it's especially interesting because you said you're you know you're a virgin you're saving yourself for the person you feel like you're

Brian Atlasgoing to marry so let's say somebody like you want to pursue someone longterm for a long-term relationship and have biological children with that

Claireperson if you're a transom you are incapable of and that's why I was making that distinction earlier and like you said some not all women are fertile not

Brian Atlasall women can have babies why what what why do you object to a man not wanting to have a relationship or have sex with

Clairea trans woman well what what why wouldn't they well I I think first they would have to present their argument like why wouldn't they want to Jade a what's the reason for not wanting to dat a trans woman people are allowed to have

Brian Atlasgenitalia preference but you said if they have bottom bottom that's not the same as a I don't know what the term for it that's not the same as like

Brian Atlasa natural grown I don't know how to frame this but you're going it's hard to form a rebuttal when there's not like an initial because you think everybody

Brian Atlasworks on this as as somebody who has had sex at least one time once if my penis was inverted I don't

Brian Atlasknow the procedure I don't know um first off my understanding is that when they go they do the procedure they have to take like lifetime antibiotics

Brian Atlasso because it's you're essentially creating a a wound into your cavity your pelvic cavity or something and uh

Brian Atlasit doesn't naturally lubricate and the composition would be different and I would just know like it ain't

Brian Atlaslike am I going to get canceled for this that's not I'm probably going to get canceled yeah you probably will get all over Tik Tok tomorrow no but it's not like it's

Brian Atlasnot it's not the same at all it's it's just not the same right I'm not trying to hate on anybody it's just like people have I have a genitalia preference for I mean we talked about the large labia

Brian Atlasbut that's another conversation I have a genitalia preference for for female I'm not I don't want male I want female

ClaireI mean if when you put it that way I feel like it's okay to have a preference I don't know I just I just think that like there's ways around like you said it doesn't lubricate naturally okay there's Lube like I don't know I

Brian Atlasthink there's ways around want natural juice juice right I want I don't want to use KY Jelly I want I want a chick that's

Emilyjust it's like a river something like the floodgates are opening I mean I guess yeah I think having a genitalia preference I have a f preferences all day and now that it's he wants to have a preference about someone's genitalia it's an issue but we've been talking

Emilyabout okay yeah but it took him literally it took him explaining to you that he wanted natural Lube in a female vagina to for you to understand it like you see what I mean like he had to break

Emilydown it we're talking about so what is that supposed to mean that not everybody has this blind view of gender like you do that we a blind I think you have the blind view no we he

Emilyhad just he had to just de like explain in very detail the difference between a man-made and natural vagina are you no I I to I completely understood the difference I said what was what would be his objection to dating someone trans

Brian Atlasand that's what he explained to me and I said it's difficult to form a rebuttal when there's no inial argument I'm also just attracted to females I'm not attracted I'm not attracted to males I'm not attracted I'm

Brian Atlasnot attracted to males regardless of the the drugs that they're ingesting and the plastic surgery that they've had and the see that's the other thing you're like I'm

Brian Atlasnot into plastic surgery there you go like but I'm just not I'm not attracted to males but it's okay can I add something no we're talking about sex we're not talking about gender we're talking about

Zoesex I'm not a no no no go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead um okay I understand like this is a topic of conversation and like this is a podcast yeah but like why does it matter so much like why can't we just

Zoelike let people do what they want to do not that's totally fine it's not yeah but but if we're having a conversation if she's saying you're a bigot for not wanting what that's

Brian Atlasputting words in my mou but that is some people's position you said earlier you you object you object to men who wouldn't want to sleep with a trans

Clairewoman who's had uh bottom surgery yeah but then after you explained your Genia that's my position yeah yeah but he had to explain it for you to prove you but you object usually people have to

Brian Atlasexplain things in order for other people understand how are we in a crazy world where I need as a man a straight man need to explain that I am only sexually

Amyattracted to females I think Ser I don't think it like matters to a lot of us we really don't care I think it's more of like

Amyplease just admit that you are a bio biological male or female and just why should I why should people admit it I don't know I just because it's a fact it's a fact it doesn't matter how does it change your life it doesn't matter on

Emilysurface level but when it gets into legislation and biological men being allowed into female prisons where now these female inmates are getting are worded that's when it's wrong so yeah it

Brian Atlasdoes matter a certain stand really like do you do you object to a guy not wanting to sleep with a trans woman no like I

Zoeactually I'm not going to say anything but you would you wouldn't what I'm didn't say wouldn't I didn't say would you would sleep with I understand why I understand men or women don't want to

Zoesleep with transgender people that's just their preference but yeah okay final question on this

Claireum uh brain work you got it we support is it let me do some chats I'll come back

Brian Atlasto it okay we and then we're I I I'm serious guys we're Yo's in the chat for Nemesis and Michael Moke the fourth bring back Chase oh okay that's that's a membership normally we don't okay okay um let me do these last two chats and I'm sorry guys I know we're going a

Brian Atlaslittle late here we're going to wrap up right now men have to meet more criteria than women honestly the more beers I down the more my standards for women also fall eventually the chick May weigh more than me fat skinny hot and ugly no

Brian Atlasshame # slamic okay kronic that okay there you have it we have uh GP here hey man thank you so much for the uh donation it's coming in here in just a

Brian Atlassec it's women competing against women to keep up with the Kardashians trying to reach what women feel is ideal not what men think is ideal I've yet to meet one dude that finds those ridiculous duck lips attractive major turnoff I

Brian Atlasguarantee you like when it comes to like the fake lips anyone here had any have you had it no you're looking at me but I've never never had it you had some filler but it's G like I think if you

Brian Atlasask most men they'd say I prefer I don't like the lip filler stuff like women you do that like you do that on your own what about the men that will say I'll pay for you to get this stuff done those guys

Brian Atlasare degenerate they're Build-A-Bear yeah that's that's a no straight up um okay

Brian Atlasoh uh good too Christian believes in abortion M yeah we got some Christian ladies here do you object to her considering herself Christian but she believes in yes well like I said uh the

Sophiatwo Bible verses I KN you together in my mother's womb and I think that um and the reason I am so uh like pro-life like very passionate about it is because I know that it is an issue um that uh really deeply affects God and

Sophiaand really saddens him and Grieves him because um they are the most vulnerable and whenever a group of people like that are being oppressed um God has big problems with that like if you go like read throughout the Bible then it's

Sophiaalways when people are being oppressed that's what's um closest to God's heart and so like for that reason because I'm a Christian it's also like close to my heart and so I'm out here like fighting the pro-life uh battle because uh

Clairebecause of my Christian faith can I ask a question yeah do you think God's saddened by the amount of PE amount of children and foster care right now oh absolutely okay then let's talk about that cuz most people who are getting abortions are people who can't afford to sustain a child's life I don't think

Clairethat that's a solution I don't think killing an innocent life is a solution to a bad we have to consider the what the child's life is going we have to consider the long-term consequences I was in the Foster system was not that

Sophiabad but that's your personal experience I think instead of but what if she got aborted a chance at life because get

Saminto okay go ahead so with abortion I view it as say you financially cannot take care of a child you had something

Samhappen to you or in general like sometimes things happen it has to happen for reasons like you don't want to bring a kid out into the world and have them have a life but at the same time I

Samalso don't support women who go around and sleep around don't care about anything and then they get the abortion because they up and started sleeping around and didn't use protection didn't care about their

Amybodies for it that's when I'm against it okay I think instead of uh funding sorry no no go ahead go ahead I I'll wrap up after you finish it instead of uh funding Planned Parenthood I think all

Amythat money should go into the foster home system I and also sorry you goad no go first Sor um and also I think the a lot of the pro choice argument ments

Amythat I do hear although I understand there's some like obviously special circumstances about it um what I'm hearing from that argument is that I want to have sex freely without the consequences and also you're choosing to

Samlay down and have sex with you know random strangers without considering like if you do that to yourself you are putting yourself in a position where you are going to get pregnant and then

Amyyou're killing something that could have been so amazing in your life with somebody who you love like a lot and also please be careful with the people that you choose to sleep with if that

Amyperson you don't think that could raise your child with you do not sleep with them please do not IGN and please don't complain about it later that they left we'll have y back y'all we'll have yall back for a political debate on this last

Brian Atlasquestion last question M1 grand would any of the girls date a guy who who legally owned a firearm just a yes or no AB please own a fire no you wouldn't dat the guy who own a gone it depends on the situation you would I would I wouldn't

Samdid a guy who doesn't own a firearm it' be a requirement yes not that depends on the situation like you said with personally I'm not allowed to own a gun I'm not allowed to own any of that cuz I am mentally ill whatever I don't care

Samabout that straight up never not never not no not never I can but they have to give forever you couldn't but

Samyou said you wouldn't date a guy that owns a if he was like if he like if I knew like it would not be a good idea to have that in the house with the I know I could like handle it obviously I'm not

Samlike going to do anything but with the person who has the gun if I have a feeling that I can't really trust it I wouldn't feel comfortable especially if I have children I really would not want

Brian Atlasa gun like in the house where it's like cuz sometimes people like put it in places where it's like accessible or I mean it could be kept safe uh yeah it just depends on the person but if you

Brian Atlaswouldn't you almost want it more if you had kids because then let's say there's a situation where there's a home invasion and it's you your husband your

Brian Atlastwo kids three men break into your house you don't know what they're about maybe you got some beefs with some people I don't I don't know they're trying to break into your house they could be on

Brian Atlasdrugs maybe they're just trying to steal something maybe they want to INF they're violent who knows in that situation would you want your H would you prefer your husband to not have a firearm well yes

Samobviously but I'm just saying sometimes with different circumstances it's like I don't know it kind of worries me guns worry me I'm I'm it worries me a little bit yeah all right we won't

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Brian Atlasnext time 07s in the chat good night guys oh should we do body count really quick wait one wait wait pause really what's your body count zero really yes

Unknownreally yeah they said it earlier why are you what about you no comment over

Unknown10 it's okay no comment okay zero I can count on one hand I'll just say One hand one

Brian Atlasone three 30 three oh okay okay all right cool cool okay there it is all right guys um 07 Che

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