HEATED Debate With Man Hating Feminist?! IG Model KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #122

Date: 2023-11-29

Duration: 6h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

FFarah Khalidi >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_06Yamani/Lena(guest)

SPEAKER_07Fara Khalji(guest)

SPEAKER_08Mera(guest)

SPEAKER_09Yamani(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_11Macy(guest)

SPEAKER_12Haley Herms(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMacy recounts father placing gun in her hand at his own head at age 17

“he tried to have me murder him and like my best friend we like almost all died... he put a gun in my hand to have me try to kill him and was like holding my hand with the gun in his head”

Key MomentFara states she would let humanity go extinct rather than restrict LGBT rights

“I stated that I'm prioritizing autonomy over a utilitarian conception of prolonging the human race”

QuoteFara reveals 2020 suicide attempt during philosophical debate about autonomy

“my last suicide attempt was in 2020 let's not get into that”

ControversyMera calls Andrew's population replacement argument 'Hitler-like'

“you trying to replace the society that sounds like some Hitler that that's crazy”

ControversyBrian repeatedly insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies emphatically multiple times

“I don't know how many times I have to say this to you Brian you have... I already told you it's not true but you keep making me”

ControversyHaley claims you can't be racist against white people; Brian calls this statement itself racist

“I just don't think you can be racist against white people”

QuoteHaley reveals former sugar baby history and using OnlyFans earnings for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral

“I used the money to pay for my Catholic grandmother's funeral”

OtherBrian kicks Mera off the show near the end (~6h31m) for persistent disruptive behavior

“bro get the [expletive] off the show leave just get up leave get up leave this is she's been one of the most disruptive guests we've ever had”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, location. Then relationship status round. Mera (refuses to reveal age, ~33, Sherman Oaks, Twitch streamer, 4-year single 'boy phase'). Haley Herms (28, LA, plus-size model). Fara Khalji (24, Miami, content creator). Yamani (27, LA, bottle service/clothing). Lena (25, Delaware, OnlyFans). Macy (27, Mobile AL, insurance adjuster, married). Andrew Wilson (debate host, mechanical engineer, married 10+ years). Kiki (co-host).

Boy stage, terminology, and promiscuity norms

Discussion of the term 'boy phase' vs 'slut' for women. Whether men wife up promiscuous women. Debate on societal double standards for body count between men and women.

Kiki's relationship status and consent contract

Kiki describes 'complicated' status: met someone before China trip, gave him a written contract of negotiables/non-negotiables. He is still reviewing while she was away. Discussion of relationship contracts.

Mera's 100 dates in 2 months

Brian probes Mera about going on 100 dates in 2 months without finding anyone. Mera describes looking for connection and authentic experience. Discussion of age, fertility, egg freezing, and what she is actually looking for.

Guns and second amendment discussion

Panel asked if a man owning a gun is positive/neutral/negative. Andrew endorses gun ownership enthusiastically. Macy shares traumatic story of father holding gun to own head with her hand on it at age 17.

Yamani: men paying for her time off from bottle service

Yamani says men frequently offer to pay her bottle service wages (~$500+) to skip work and go on dates. Discussion of implications and transactional dating.

Feminist debate: promiscuity, population replacement, and autonomy

Andrew and Mera debate: does promiscuity harm society? Population replacement argument. Mera calls Andrew's replacement language 'Hitler-like' (misunderstanding). Extended hypothetical: would you let humanity go extinct to preserve autonomy/LGBT rights? Andrew says he would restrict certain behaviors to prevent extinction. Fara says she prioritizes autonomy over prolonging the human species.

Monogamy, nuclear family, and societal outcomes

Andrew argues monogamy and nuclear family optimal for children and society. Mera and Fara push back on imposing relationship structures. Discussion of women initiating 80% of divorces, stepfather risk data. Haley describes herself as socialist/feminist but Traditional Values in personal relationships.

Haley on communism and socialism

Haley describes herself as socialist with interest in communism. Discussion of whether communism works (small-scale communes vs large scale). Andrew argues communism requires compelled service. Haley defends communism as theoretical Utopia. Discussion of inflation, millennials, affordability of nuclear family.

Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Panel rates own looks. Haley: 10 in fat community, 7.5 in society. Lena: 10 (confidence 10, societal 7-8). Brian: 5 (gained weight). Andrew: 6. Mera: 10. Yamani and Fara also 10. Rating round devolves into debate about fat attraction and political messaging.

Ideal sex frequency

Each guest shares ideal sex frequency. Mera: 2-4 times per day. Haley: once or twice a day. Mera reveals she takes birth control to reduce her high sex drive.

Haley's plus-size model career and OnlyFans content

Discussion of fat attraction, Andrew vs Haley debate over whether attraction to plus-size women is genuine or fetish. Haley claims shredded men are her top DMs. Her OnlyFans revenue from weigh-in/eating videos. Used OnlyFans earnings to pay for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral.

Cosmetic procedures round

Brian asks who has had cosmetic procedures. Mera: deviated septum fix as child, lip filler yearly. Brian insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies multiple times.

Body count discussion

Body count round started. Andrew says he wouldn't be surprised if some women don't know their count. Discussion of double standards for high body count men vs women. Fara argues pair bonding applies more to women than men. Debate on whether men with high body counts are hypocritical for wanting low body count women.

Former sugar baby (Haley)

Haley reveals she had sugar daddy arrangements until age 22 (stopped after mother died). Charged $700 for date, $2500+ for time afterward. Total per visit $700-$5000. Had 2-3 sugar daddies, was intimate with 2. Dropped one after he revealed racist beliefs.

Mera kicked off show

Brian asks Mera to leave after she gets up from table and is disruptive. Cites her being obtuse, not staying seated, moving around repeatedly throughout show. Andrew notes timing was comedic (2 min before show end).

Transcript

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Yamanithe girls she gets wetter if she comes so I mean I don't know we're just telling you with our collective experience that that you're a unicorn oh

Haley Hermsit's not as common as also it is harder I granted there are women who come really easily but there are some women there's some women it's harder to make do you ever get upset that there's other

Haley Hermsmen that make you look bad wait what do you mean where's this coming from all those men or not like make you look bad like not you specifically to an extent but like for example like all the white

Haley Hermsmen in my life that have treated me bad right and so then like naturally you like do you feel any kind of like those one guys like it up for the rest of them like the so you're saying all

Brian Atlasthe men that aren't giving all these women orgasms like it's giving it's it's looking back I think it's actually this is why the women it's good for me because I'm trying to make but

Haley Hermsare you understanding why the women are acting or like thinking the way they are because you're like wow if I'm like the Unicorn like I want you wouldn't you tell your other male friends like Step It Up don't don't be afraid to get a to

Brian Atlasthere's a couple things here like so okay there's some women like I've encountered a woman who she she's not she wasn't even able to make herself come so I was like well okay if you can't even make yourself come then it

Brian Atlasmight I mean I can I'm a try but if you know maybe you some there are some women who have uh a lot of difficulty

Brian Atlasclimaxing or some women just can't um that's true but uh if you know if you can make yourself come then I think a guy can make you come so

Merauh yeah I don't know I also think there's a lot of repressed sexuality in women if we look at like again historically women were sort of used by

Meramen for their pleasure and to produce Offspring so a lot of women don't even they haven't even felt comfortable to explore their bodies erroneous yeah well that's just more standpoint Theory again

Andrew Wilsonso you're looking at history through a uniquely through a unique female perspective and that's not the case it's not the case that they like for instance Eastern cultures have you ever seen all

Andrew Wilsonof the mount the massive quantity of sex books in eastern cultures no I have not okay well it's they have a huge catalog of them going way back for uh you know

Andrew Wilsonseveral thousand years I've have you seen those have you seen those prehistoric dildos I'm more so I can't speak for everyone I know that there's some conservative families and like I

Merasaid I do come from one of those as well so for me it's been a journey especially coming to America and seeing how sexually liberated American women are where you from where you from why don't you tell us where you from you don't

Brian Atlasthink European women Russ are you from Russia sexual kazak I think she's from Kaz Andrew Wilson I think she's from Kaz kazakstan so for me seeing that that was first it

Merawas a little scary but then it was liberating because I saw that women just choose for themselves they can stay you know far is still keeping it celibate

Andrew Wilsonyou know that she's waiting or they can indulge in whatever it's beautiful it's beautiful it's beautiful it's great it's the freedom of choice it's

Meradecadence I understand your point and understand you now human tweet twitch is reinforcing misogynistic system oh you read it sorry my bad go

Meraahead twitch is reinforcing misogynistic system discriminating women bodies if men are allowed to have nipples Pok through a shirt then women should be too if I choose to wear socially appropriate clothing without underwear for Comfort

Brian Atlastwitch staff shouldn't ban my channel for it agreed I'm I I'm actually a feminist on I'm you know the free the nipple movement I am a feminist I'm for it if women want to be walking around

Haley Hermstopless would you data a girl that's tits her tits like you can see them through her shirt titties what huh if I could see would I date a girl if I you date a girl who would like wear a white

Brian Atlastank top with no bra underneath like around your family I don't really have a strong position on bras I don't care she wants to wear bras cool if she doesn't cool I don't okay don't really care you would care if she's topless around other

Haley Hermsmen oh okay well that's a little different here so you're not free the nipple right I'm well hold on like at the beach could she be topless there

Andrew WilsonI support the free the nipple movement I'll I support free the nipple I know might disagree with me but actually do you no I don't think that uh I think it's indecency both ways if tend I tend

Andrew Wilsonto think that men shouldn't walk around with their shirts off also tend to think that women shouldn't walk around with their shirt what about what about the beach like guy with like swim trunks mhm is a beach okay well I think in that particular instance it's all right yeah

Meraokay I have a question so what about nipples poking through the shirt should men wear bras as well to cover their nipples just like women well depends if he has movs or pasties well first first

Andrew Wilsonof all um if you're looking at the distinction in chest right so women have much larger breast so their nipples their NE their nipples tend to protrude

Andrew Wilsonhowever there are men right men I've seen it big fat men who also have their nipples protrude and yes those should wear a different shirt for sure rather than have their nipples putr I

Merashould try to lose so you think should their ni to let it out let or is it just over think I think that we should have uniform decency law our are not inherently sexual I don't think that so

SPEAKER_02what's undent about nipples here let's let's not linger too long let's uh well what's indecent about uh walking around completely naked actually next one ni I would agree there's nothing it's

Andrew Wilsonjust social but do you think that people then would you support just people walking around completely naked all day yes it will take a while to transition there cuz obviously what about having sex in public what's indecent about that

Meraooh that's hot your body being what's about it it's also social and I would agree that that is something we can come to with time yeah what's indecent about

Andrew Wilsonit I don't think it's it's not indecent to have sex in public what about sex in public in front of minor having sex that's crazy having sex is sexual hang on I just want that question is that I

Merawould not have sex in public in front of my yeah but is it indecent I guess so if I said I will not do that okay so what makes it indecent but not just sex in public because there's a certain vibe

Merathat should not be it it just it's too sexual no because oh it's VI I believe that children should not be exposed to sex that's one of I didn't say a child I

Brian Atlassaid a minor you said you were having SE sex 17 what is a isn't that a child no doesn't have to be look at that Stiffler ask everyone to rate their looks on a scale of 1 to 10 Stiffler here we're

Brian Atlasgoing to go around the table on that starting with you go ahead whose looks are we rting your own looks oh my looks out of 10 yeah your own

Haley Hermslooks I'll give myself a 10 um in the fat girl Community I would give myself a 10 out of 10 in society I'd give myself a seven and a half out of 10 to be

Yamani/Lenarealistic I'd give myself a 10 as well um yeah I would give myself a 10 I think everyone should give theirself a 10 oh I mean I feel like my confidence

Yamani/Lenais like a 10 but societal standards maybe like a seven or eight I would say eight too I'm a

Brian Atlas20 yes yeah we'll go with that since since we're all going to why I'll just be a 20 I will answer honestly and say I used to be a six but honestly I'm a five

Brian Atlasright now because I've said this I've gained some weight recently I've got a little bit of a dadbod going on I need to lose some weight guys DS are hot they're in no in my my personal world

Brian Atlasviiew I think being shredded with a six-pack would be way better so I'm a five because I've my my face has gotten a little chubbier got a little ch

Brian Atlaschubbier in the belly I am a five I'm working on it though I'm going to lose some weight and I will get back to my previous maybe even I could go beyond a six I could get to a seven 6.9 maybe who

Andrew Wilsonknows if I get a six-pack I think I would be a solid seven with a six if I got a six-pack and like a little little more muscular definition I mean I think you're being a little mean to yourself but no I'm being I'm being I think some

Andrew Wilsonof you being a little nice to yourself what do you really rate yourself though like not I'm not I'm not anything special Maybe maybe a six maybe a six maybe maybe 20 years ago guys have lack of confidence no it's not a lack of

Brian Atlasconfidence it's confidence could make the rating go it's just realism it's just being realistic The Confident thing is to acknowledge yeah I'm a six and I'm okay with that I'm a five right now

Haley Hermsthough I'm a five I'm a five right now huh I don't know you're someone came up to me guy or girl was like I'm just so ugly I don't think I'm that attractive I'd be well that's delusional that's a difference so just being

Andrew Wilsondelusional you're just asking a person to assess themselves honestly but like someone could like look at you and be like that's a 10 yeah you don't think that's very subjective so wait a second Beauty there's OB let me just ask you

Andrew Wilsonabout this criticism here like honestly I know this one's going if the other girls who are there are assessing themselves at a 10 societally how in the world could you possibly be assessing

Andrew Wilsonyourself at a seven said seven and a half yeah how um I mean other than being fat like you mean the big thing like the

Haley Hermsthe literal elephant in the room right as it I mean but like I date like people I mean she's pulled some hot I

Andrew WilsonI'm dating celebrities billionaires millionaires like not trying to like all the memes all the memes are s we're meing but what I'm saying is this is like and a lot of guys don't want to

Haley Hermsadmit that they like fat girls because of guys like you where you would turn around and look at your friend and be like oh I can't believe you like that whale and then he feels really unconfident goes to my page only fans

Haley Hermsand spends $800 to collect my content so you know it's a lot of like maybe if you made your men counter Parts more friendly you would realize what a broad Taste of women men actually have most of

Andrew Wilsonthe dudes who are running around with fat chicks are ugly dudes most of them not some of them most of them that is actually let's not linger on the whole

Haley Hermsyou know thing for too long I can't that's not my experience as also someone who's currently in I've been in Vogue you can go see my face in Nordstroms

Andrew WilsonUlta beauty morphe brushes I am like a that's a political push to politicize a message nobody wants like men how wait is being fat as a porn category also

Andrew Wilsonpolitical or men only jacking off to overweight girls because it's woke there so in that so in that category where is it fall overarchingly in the porn categories like 1 through 20 let's

Andrew Wilsonsay where would it be would it be underneath all of the hot chicks right where would it be is it more popular than the hot chicks or less popular than the hot chicks popular but what is more popular than that is the hot but if it was you're treating it like it's

Haley Hermsrepulsive and people are running the other way but if they're searching who have a fetish not some people fetish some but a fat girl doesn't mean you have a fetish most of my exes had never dated a fat girl before me cutting up if

Andrew Wilsonyou're cutting up pornography in this way and you're saying all the people who are watching pornography there's this subset which like to watch factal pornography that doesn't mean anything also that just means that you have a bunch of because of people like you

Fara Khaljisaying like oh it's only ugly guys who are running around fat chicks but I think porn is a catalog of everyone's guilty pleasures and their actual desires when they're not socially inhibited and their so that's a popular could just be some kind of weird not

Yamanirelated to attraction not always they're or maybe people don't go for the things they have a king it's not that hard to believe that some people are attracted to other not saying that there's not some who aren't I'm just saying that

Andrew Wilsonnormally what I see in societies when you have an ugly person or with an ugly person when you have a beautiful person or with a beautiful person I usually don't see it the opposite way say automatically and usually who is fat now ug I'm almost done I'm saying that most

Andrew Wilsonof the time I see really fat women they're with really fat dudes just most of the time wait I have a question for you related to that see most guys that hit on me are Jim Bros that are fit as

Haley Hermsthat's like number one the fittest like you should see the amount of like what are they called like the pumper people the body builders that are in my DM penis Pumpers maybe things are hard

Haley Hermsout thereis Pumpers are in your DM they love the difference they love it or it's skinny white video Gamers because they love they're

Haley Hermstall dick y don't believe your brother the wait hold up like literally my top men that always hit on me are always not only are they thin but they are

Haley Hermsshredded I've been dating NFL players rappers they're I'm not going to name jobs on those celebrities but their boyfriends are in my DMs like I think it's she's seen it like

Haley Hermsit's liter you'd be surprised and it all comes down to a lot of men like you who talk like this and then they just go along with oh yeah fat chicks are ugly

Haley Hermsman but then like I said they run back over to me spend all their money want to see everything it's something that they've loved forever but they don't feel confident enough because their

Haley Hermsfriends aren't supportive ofast even if it's different you can say it's not my taste but you have you have already equaled all fat women to being ug you think the

Andrew Wilsonproblem is that men like me are creating a social stigma against other against other men having the think why do you think gay guys have you don't think that it's because

Haley Hermsthey're fat chicks and they're not just not Ed to them no you're unattracted to them and you're making your friends feel shame and guilt for what they're attract make feel shame and guilt yes you do when you talk like that do you think

Haley Hermswhen you talk like that that that's positive reinforcement I'm not going to I don't need to positively reinforce a thing tearing down your friends it's something that everyone knows because you have no confidence and know

Haley Hermsall of my friends aren't the same way where they're like all how would you know if you're constantly being an and never provided the place for them to open up and be like maybe I like

Andrew Wilsonblack chicks maybe I like fat girls like just because you don't like black girls are all black girls ugly now wait you think that men who rib each other incessantly talk smack to each other incessantly don't know like they don't

Andrew Wilsonlet you know the types of different weird that they're into they do it all the time you don't think there's

Andrew Wilsondownload to say to make this ridiculous statement that the reason that Society it's okay men just don't go the good quality very handsome men don't go for

Merathe big fat chicks because guys like you create stigma that's nuts what about 17th century when extra weight was considered to be attractive and I would be considered ugly because I'm That Kind

Andrew Wilsonextra weight I want to I want to add though have you seen the statues this is you'd be surprised In some cultures that's still it's not ridiculous I was there's it is ridiculous talking about

Haley Hermsfertility statues okay let's put it this way say I was an ugly fat girl which I'm not and I'm confident in that would they still put me in Nordstroms because that's my face a political agenda that's

Haley Hermsmy face you can't see my body I'm gorgeous it's political I'm gorgeous trying to push a political message push a political message of what you can't see my body I have literally

Haley Hermsbeen handpicked by my Wast up and told I one of the most beautiful models in the world I get flown from New York to to Canada to everywhere in between and you think it's cuz I'm ugly no I think it's because there's

Haley Hermsa political tool you're a political tool it doesn't matter but like okay so out of all the fat people like you don't think there's one pretty one you don't like they're not putting ugly fat people

TTS/Donationsup on there one sec one sec is literally delusional to pretend that fat girls are conventionally I didn't say they were conventionally attractive that the fat Tad campaigns are being replaced with

Brian Atlasathletic attractive models wait wait one thing one thing one say say one the views expressed on the

Brian Atlaswhatever podcast do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever podcast or the host oh thank you monama thank you or the uh rates yourself as a

Brian Atlas10 date celebs do these celebs love you interesting you need backup blank means nothing Chad's running through you means nothing uh f is how many Chads marry you

Brian AtlasAndrew W okay yall are aggressive and mad yeah guys keep it keep it polite please guys guys keep it polite please okay keep it polite keep it polite you

Haley Hermsknow for for who said anything about backup dick backup dick oh is that what that says I thought backup dick that's what that said right I don't I to be honest I didn't understand what that

Brian Atlassaid how did we get to this I don't know we were on tweets is there more tweets is there another tweet there's another tweet we have miror here if you need to take a little little breather there Andrew feel free to take a men say their s Drive is high until they meet a woman

Brian Atlaswho likes to have sex so are you saying what are you saying there Myra Mirra which one how' you say how'

Haley Hermsyou say it I think it's miror it's mirror okay thank you go ahead BBW is top 10 category consistently come on

Haley Hermscome on Andrew come on baby why he walk away go ahead yep Mera I think she's got a little more to say no no no no no don't yield no you go I just want to

Brian Atlasmake sure they get the comment cuz you're supposed to read that out loud or whatever I don't object to your Tweet by the way just you know are are you how often do you need maybe we go around the table on this I think everyone should

Brian Atlasanswer if you're in a loving monogamous relationship if that's what you want how frequently would you ideally like to be you

Macyknow I like that word you know I like that better just you know just going at it let's start with her's really get the you know just doing the maybe like

Meratwo to four times a day how often mirror two to four times a day every day yeah like twice in the morning twice at night what defines

Brian Atlastwice yeah like say any man watching F doing it purely wait wait wait wait wait wait hold on uh purely based on childhood trauma if an attractive man is dating one he is recovering from recent

Brian Atlasrejection dealing with psychological issues always I guarantee you hey thank you man thank you for your uh thank you thank you thank okay uh how often would you

Haley Hermslike to ideally have sex man or woman come in wait what um so I was thinking more so like to be honest like man coming but like I could come once or

Haley Hermstwice a day okay but you're still prioritized there still pleasure I'm submissive in bed so I kind of like if someone says it like I'm like I'll try it twice

Haley Hermsokay but what if you don't come at all that's disappointing it depends if is it like if it's a guy I've been dating forever like okay I can like Miss a couple times here and there but if like we're just dating and you're trying

Merato impress me like yeah you need to like make me come okay that's where you will communicate actually yeah yeah that makes sense um I think I have to agree with

Meraher it depends agree with what oh she said two to four well two to four times a day every day I would it doesn't have to every day I think um that's question for me specifically just depends on the

TTS/Donationsmood but it's quite frequently sorey donated $200 who do you think would win in a fight between girl one and girl two maybe later on in the show but to be

Merafrank I actually take birth control not to control birth but to turn down my sex drive wow to turn it down wow it makes you very high it makes me quite aggressive because my testosterone and

Meramale hormones are high again B based on how I live my life and because I don't have a man around that I am attracted to enough to have sex I want to be able to just focus on work before we continue on

TTS/Donationswith this question I wanted I I didn't really address the whole 10 thing so I think you said 10 10 with caveats 101 oh modest hikima donated

TTS/Donations$200 hi brixon I am a BBW appropriating big black women from blacks and really am interested in how attracted to me You Are I Am till

TTS/DonationsA200 a total raging SE and I'm better than everyone date Mir is one okay what thank you modest jaama

Brian Atlasthank you man appreciate it okay really quick on the 10 thing uh I'm not going to rate you guys but nobody here's a 10 sorry 10 I mean I don't really care but

Andrew Wilsonlike I'm just curious who's your interested in a 10 well I can prove this I can actually prove this to all of you oh God right this second and I and here's the thing here's the thing I'll put 100 bucks on the table that I can prove this to every one of you I brought

Yamanimakeup wipes go in there and wipe it off and come back and sit down I had a feeling when I was sitting outside I had feeling this was going to pop up those ready to go do first go do we have a can

YamaniI have it please oh well the can I have that please the question hold not yet not yet please no we're not cuz if I'm if you don't think I'm a 10 with the makeup on what's the point of me taking it off though I have a question

Brian Atlasoh going around the table has anybody here had any cosmetic procedures so lip filler Botox plastic surgery rhinoplasty uh

Brian AtlasBBL UHS implants fake tits lipo anything um so I had deviated septum as a kid so that's me yeah those suck yeah

MeraI I couldn't breathe very well so I have that currently so that got fixed besides for that I do a little bit of filler every once in a while like once a year

Merayou can see like I'm plump okay what else that's it that's not it what else do you think why don't you just tell me then you have fake breasts how do you

Brian Atlasknow I saw your Instagram and you can tell just by looking at my Instagram yeah I I've got fake titty uh radar

Meraokay am I wrong anything yes anything Ron you huh anything else no am I why do do you have anything else do you have a

Brian AtlasBBL what's a BBL Brazilian butt lift I believe so a fake butt too yeah no did you get that from my Instagram too no I'm I I don't know I'm asking if

Brian Atlasyou have one I I'm fairly confident you have fake breasts though okay am I wrong yes you don't have fake breasts

Brian Atlasno I'm wait can we pull up her I don't know if her IG is totally kosher um I don't think I think you have fake fake

Brian Atlasbreasts I'm just I'm just throwing it out there okay are you li are you actually going to lie though about why would I lie about that what am I gaining from that we've had women on the show who have lied about that before and then

Brian Atlasit's quite apparent that they have fake breasts okay but why would I mean it's not really something you can lie about you know okay would that be easy if I said that I do well I obviously don't

Brian Atlaswant you to lie but but you're already telling her she's a liar regardless here I already said no but you keep asking again and again what do you

Andrew Wilsonthink definitely the wrong guy to yeah I was going to say ask that question to yeah he don't know oh okay I mean I

Brian Atlaswant I'm pre I'm looking at some of these photos as somebody who is you know I think you got fake breast I'm pretty

Brian Atlasconfident okay chat you I'll take that as a compliment chat you guys want to here let's ask the chat chat let's go to her instagram.com go to her chat go to

Brian Atlasher Instagram one in the chat if you think she has fake fake breasts or two in the chat if you think they're natural this is getting creepy

Nick (crew)bro how's it creepy they asked them they said that okay one person whatever some dude in the chats like prove it

Brian AtlasGod you said jumping I think they look they look fake to me a lot of what fake H what defines the fake do you have do you have implants no

Brian Atlasno how can you tell like that's what I mean can you answer the question though or they like just just fess up I already answer the question just fess up there you have implants I don't know what else to tell you I already said no several times so I'm curious what makes it look

Brian Atlasfake like what quality is about them there it's like this sort of uncanny valley thing because if you know what like natural breasts look like and you compare them to fake breasts there is

Brian Atlaslike so what is that can you it's hard for me to precisely articulate it but you know when you see it I I suppose the best thing I could articulate is obviously you know there there's various

Brian Atlasfactors but I mean uh the the totness of the skin typically toughness T totness that that can be that can be a thing um

Andrew Wilsonthere's also body proportion proportionality you can you can look at at people right and our brains operate as kind of pattern recognition machines

Andrew Wilsonso if we walk around you see enough people you start to recognize that women have different proportions are you saying my breast are saying anything I didn't make the accusation just explaining how you would spot it 10

Brian Atlasplease love my pathetic blank two Z that a joke three probably beat me into sub 8455 Kiki hot af6 one world whole show 7

Yamanifive Andrew 15 bricks and 20 okay that was confusing but not they gave you a 15 that's what we're saying a lot of you guys are a little DL you don't even know it they want to suck your dick they love

Merayou oh God okay I think my ass actually is larger than my breasts but people also assume that I have a fake ass wait can you just fess up though like come on you have I'm looking at your

MeraInstagram I don't know how many times I have to say this to you Brian you have would you feel happy if I said I had fake boobs I'm going to do that for you only only if it's true I already told you it's not true but you keep making me

Merasay that would you feel satisfied if you were right about that cuz it seems like there's something not clicking in your head I can say that could I could be

Brian Atlaswrong I'm sometimes the radar is off I'm I you know they look fake okay they look fake to me

Brian Atlasmy question is though if you were you a 10 before you got all the Cosmetic Surgery you me the LI filler huh you mean the LI filler sure and the other procedures that you refuse to admit to

Brian Atlashaving so you still implying that I'm lying about the fake breasts yes I think you I think you're lying about the fake breasts well that kind of hurts my feelings that you don't trust me

Brian AtlasBrian allow your feelings to be hurt then

Brian Atlasokay can we move on right this is a sad need check it with my dog babysit or something I just is I don't know why you would lie like if you have it just say

Merayou have it I guess I don't know can you ask me one more time no I'm just just tell them please yes Brian I have fake boobs but are you lying now I'm going to

Merakill myself how big is your dig brine ooh Ines good hard from the I feel like Brian L has a big c he might be slanging something like I don't know he might be

Haley Hermsslanging because like we get like right this like whole persona but he's really making like his girl come so you know he has like a sensitive side and like he's kind of tall so it's like I don't know I'm thinking like some some

Brian Atlasbig dick I don't think hype matters I feel like it's in the hands true true how see your hands put your hands on the table don't be scared I got dainty women hand woman hands so yeah I guess I for

Brian Atlaspleasure I got yeah that's true actually my dexterity is second to none what the okay uh okay I just I don't know

Brian Atlaswhere I have so many more notes but frankly it's late um I don't know if we have time

Brian Atlasto he didn't answer huh yeah I know it's late um but I we got so many more notes um I'm trying to think if there's oh body count okay why is it always me I

Merafeel like you have a thing for me Brian you supposed to go the table stopped will you marry me I thought this was for Jen will you marry

Brian Atlasme on your knees no I refuse oo that was hot um body count what's everybody's body count what

Andrew Wilsonif we don't know our body count not like it's like crazy we wouldn't be surprised that's so you're saying a lot of guys is no I just said I wouldn't be surprised if you if you guys

Haley Hermsdidn't know your body counts you want to give us a range well you were out someone was talking about how top 10 category was be okay let's not go back there was what

Andrew Wilsonwas was in top 10 one of your own what's BBW big beautiful women fat girls that's the category so society's gotten sick I don't know I don't know what to say

Brian Atlassick enough to procreate with you let me okay let me ask let me ask a let me ask a first question uh do you object to men caring about a woman's body count sorry what I thought you were

Meraasking me about breasts again can you repeat

Brian Atlas[Laughter] that do you object to men caring about a woman's body count I no they can care about whatever they

Haley Hermswant Oh Me Oh do I I mean do you think it's insecure do you think it's shouldn't matter I think it only matters if he has a really high body

Haley Hermscount too and it's like how can you have a really high body count double standard okay but I mean if you have a low body count you want someone else that has a low body count like why not mhm okay yeah if he's ran through I think it's

Yamanistupid okay yeah I agree if they're run through I don't think it should be their business but whatever you're even if you are ran through and you don't want a girl that's not run through I guess but

Yamani/Lenait's kind of silly sure okay I think Everyone's entitled to their own preferences when it comes to that

Brian Atlasokay I think it should matter but obviously on both sides yeah well I mean just to counter what you guys are saying so while it might be h critical for a

Brian Atlasman who say is promiscuous to judge a woman for her own promiscuity I don't it's a little bit different I would say

Brian Atlasthat oh she's leaving okay this was kind of okay all right later um I don't think what what are you doing

Brian Atlasyou coming to give me a back massage what are you doing actually oh she's getting the makeup wipes okay this girl's so extra okay um you know what you wanted to see the real

Brian Atlasme okay sure here I guess we'll do it wait but do it on do it at on the table I guess um what was I I totally forgot oh you're doing it in the bathroom just do it here at the table I know what you're going to say cuz you said it

Brian Atlasbefore is that women desire traits and Men all the time that they themselves do not have so why is it wrong for men to desire low body no but I don't think it's wrong like if a guy say he has a high body count I don't think it's

Brian Atlashypocritical necessarily for him to desire a woman with a low body count what might be hypocritical as if he were to say that a woman with a high body

Brian Atlascount can't desire a man with a low body count that might be hypocritical but I don't think it's

Brian Atlasit's a man who has a high body count it's fine for him to want a woman with a low body count if that's what he values that's your preference but I would be oh

Brian Atlassorry well I mean and like like you said I've said it before in order for you to desire something in someone need you possess that trait or characteristic and I don't

Brian Atlasthink so in the same way that a woman who's poor might want to date a rich man she certainly might be attracted to a rich man so in order

Brian Atlasfor a woman to date a rich man must she to be rich I would say no in order for a woman to want to date a tall man must she also be tall or be the same height

Brian Atlasno of course not in order for a woman to want to date a guy who's funny need she be funny no of course not so we I think it's perfectly acceptable to desire

Fara Khaljitraits and characteristics in a partner that you yourself do not necessarily possess so sure and we already talked about this and like I said I think the value of a low body count like I said it's better for paired bonding and that

Fara Khaljiworks best when it's on both ends so yes you can be a short woman and desire a tall man but I think Desiring a low body count in a woman while having a high one is more akin to a guy saying I want my woman to be exclusive to me while I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to be polymer that's how I view it so that's why I think it's more HP necessarily because I I think you can still be monogamous even if you've had a high body count perhaps you've realized hey this is not no I was just saying it's an analogy of why I think it's hypocritical I think you're expecting

Fara Khaljiyour partner to be a bit more psychologically bonded to you because the whole point is when you've had less Partners you're going to be more chemically and emot attached to the person you're having sex with so if you want a woman with a low body count I think there that's not equally true between the Sexes it's not exact but I

Andrew Wilsonthink generally yeah yeah but it's not even close to equally true is the best pair bonding is between two virgins yeah the best maybe but that doesn't mean that men with a high body count like

Andrew Wilsonlet's say a man has slept with 100 uh women and a woman slept with 100 men the ability of the man to pair bond is going to be greatly uh less decreased than the

Yamaniwoman's why I what what is this idea that like you guys do I feel like there's this overall idea that men don't get like emotionally connected to sex I feel like there's this idea that we

Yamanidon't have like we exchange energy and men are just like men just deplete women after sex like what why wouldn't it be equal on both I can tell you why is it the chemical

Andrew Wilsonrelease is that what you're going to go into no nope we're not even going to get into chemical release I just kind of explain why this is in grained in human beings because uh women who are The Gatekeepers

Andrew Wilsonof sex they also are the ones who have the children right so if men are looking for a woman to have their children they want to make sure that it's theirs and we weren't always able

Andrew Wilsonto test for whether or not uh the paternity of your child was your own so historically if a woman was not promiscuous and they parab bonded with

Andrew Wilsonyou you could be almost assured of of the fertility and that the child she's going to have is yours so that's a way for them to gauge whether or not the child the woman's having is actually

Yamaniyour child so can you explain to me how that relates to if a man has a 100 bodies versus a woman a woman having 100

Andrew Wilsonbodies how the man is can parir Bond better than the woman because because the whole point is it's a way for you to not raise it's like a biological way

Andrew Wilsonthat's ingrained in in so that they're not raising children which are not theirs due to a woman being promiscuous is it no no no I'm asking I'm actually answering your question act I'm saying the reason

Andrew Wilsonthere's a distinction between the two is because uh a man can judge better or could judge better before you're able to test do paternity tests as to whether or

Andrew Wilsonnot The Offspring the woman was having is actually your Offspring the best test for that is the lack of priscu in a woman that does not apply to a man why would it apply to a man no woman's ever

Yamanigoing to be testing a man for the paternity of the child I you ever seen Mori show they girls be confused about their baby Dy they be confused they like yeah

Andrew WilsonI get it but you're not ever you're not ever going to be confused as to whether or not the man is having your child that's the point CU men can't have

Andrew Wilsonchildren right so so so it would always be for us to test whether or not the baby is our baby so the more that a woman is promiscuous that's why the

Yamanibiological Drive was ingrained in us to so no no you're fine you're fine I don't know I don't even know how else to explain that if if men men and women understand what you're saying I'm not really getting what the that has to

Andrew Wilsondo with I just if you have a bunch of bodies like man or woman like you're going to you might little before before you could do and this is a recent invention

Andrew Wilsonbefore you could do a paternity test before you could figure out through DNA analysis whether or not the baby the woman's having is actually yours what would be the key things you would look at to make sure that she was actually

Andrew Wilsonhaving your baby and not somebody else's baby and then telling you it was yours a calendar well that would be that would be a good metric like I'm not going to lie that's a good metric one but also she could be sleeping with a person

Andrew Wilsonright around the same time and babies can come early they can come early Jud and well but you can also judge it based off the promisc the promiscuity so the

Andrew Wilsonmore promiscuous a woman is the less likely a man would be attracted to her because the less likely he's trusting that the paternity of the children that she would bear are are going to be his

Yamaniguys do I'm not going to lie they y'all be wiping up some ran through girls I see it all the time three Baby M at one time yeah I don't like none of that contents with what I'm saying okay I

Yamanithere is like this thing where I feel like I again whatever you consider horror is whatever but like people there's this whole idea that like you have too too much sex or you with too many guys

Yamanino one's going to want you you're going to be ran through and it's not especially in today's society it's just not as true like I've seen so many and I it applies to girls more than it applies

Yamanito men cuz like you're saying a man he get for whatever biological reasons he can have sex with more people and still be able to parir bond so I think this applies to women but um oh my God I forgot what I was saying okay cool I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to move on because we we need to I need to wrap up here very very soon so I have a chat here from puffy Vegas I will

Brian Atlasrate the girls ponytail to left yellow shirt 7.55 77 6.55 PS I'm a nine he's N9

Brian AtlasInes no oh nine inches excuse me puffy Vegas is packing just saying um okay how would you know he admitted it in that

YamaniTTS it's obvious a little DL that's a little DL yep there you have it I love the gay I was just about to say I love

Brian Atlasthe gays okay uh let's see we have do oh so you foro o um I'm just curious what kind of content do you guys make is it

Merauh solo content BG content like what what kind you have to go to mirrors.com to see why don't you just I I give you so much Brian I

Brian Atlastook all my makeup off pouting you sat there pouting oh I'm not getting enough attention let me just go walk around and do jumping

Brian Atlasjacks my God this girl um oh let me just hold that framed picture of ziz sorry I wasn't trying I was not trying to S to I wasn't trying

Brian Atlasto oh my God cover your secrets oh my God all there's a big fad dick there my bad I don't think that would happen damn

Merabro my bad I was getting very animated um I don't go to any podcast this was my first one and I think I shared so much and I hope you

Brian Atlasguys enjoyed that and uh it's time for me to go to bed now it's time for me to go to bed okay Brian so what do you do what do you do though

Haley Hermslike is it solo content PG I'm just CU hold my hand I'm okay all what about you uh so I do mostly solo content but it's not even my like highest rated uh but

Haley Hermsthe way I make the most money is basically like doing weigh-ins guys will jack off to me weighing myself on a scale so I'll be like fully clothed uh most of the stuff I do is

Haley Hermsfully clothed my biggest Sellers and then eating of course like eat a breakfast they want to see it eat my dinner they want to see it uh I don't know they like like to see me with my

TTS/Donationsbelly out hold on just stay we're going to R just stay just stay modest hiim donated $200 this black chick has no idea and will act like she is not offended I

TTS/Donationscalled her black through by the fact you use the term Shamu gross Dam sorry chat roast modest

Haley HermsJamaica I mean it's clear you missed the beginning where this was like celibate half of her life I literally I it's okay if you think I'm ran through I don't know what ran through is maybe I maybe sit go ahead by

Yamanidefinition you do think I'm run through yeah and I'm actually very black I'm not offended that you told me that yeah I actually never know can you please take your seat my back hurts okay if you need a stretch for two minutes but just take

Haley Hermsyour seat before we wrap okay and then topless stuff and then just like topless stuff with other girls okay

Brian Atlasokay we're just GNA skip because I I need this to be uh moved along um

Brian Atlasuh is that the name you're looking for no just I mean I what are you doing try to want to come bring no I mean I'm just going to move on because you guys aren't answering the question so yeah I thought

Brian Atlasyou were looking for a new question that's why oh yeah you didn't clarify okay no it's I was just are you still asking this question are you searching for a new one no but it's like I don't need to the next the next

Fara Khaljilike once if somebody ERS the question you can just move on to the next person you had an intermission of talking to mea you should clarify I do solo content okay thank you um yeah I mean I oh you

Yamanido o too so okay right you do o sorry okay um yeah I mean I don't into the mics guys into the mic I don't do anything with anyone else I guess I don't really do sexual stuff in my own life solo and like ass content I would

Yamani/Lenasay for you bathing suits okay let's see and then oh I just kind of do like bikini and lingerie

Brian Atlasstuff you done any BG content no okay uh okay uh all right um You said you have a twin

Brian Atlassister oh yeah I don't know we really have to rap I wish we had more time um it's twitch well I feel bad because I didn't really get to I could

Brian Atlascome back another time with her yeah it say she was supposed to come this time but she cancelled but okay I just feel bad because I had a whole bunch of notes that I want to address to

Brian Atlasyou but just the conversation we weren't able to get to it so um if you're down to come back I'd love to have you so we can actually uh get to you

Brian Atlasum I think there was one thing I could maybe quickly address you said that um so you have a twin sister yes both of you do o yes censored content you make

Brian Atlassix figures a year yes and you used the of money to pay for your Catholic grandmother's funeral oh yes I uh I wasn't sure about the morals of it I

Andrew Wilsonmean maybe you have something she just out of frame in both of these okay well all right well it's not immoral to use money to pay for your grandma's funeral but it's definitely immoral the way that

Haley Hermsthe money made money to pay for it house for the funeral those are expensive in a Catholic Church I 25 Grand get my mom buried yeah well there's yeah

Brian Atlasokay there's other ways to come up with $25,000 duh fast it would be good if we can get you and your twin sister I apologize that we didn't really get to address some of my notes here for you

Brian Atlasbut just unfortunately we've we've run out of time so um so I'm sorry about that that we didn't really get to uh reel you in too much to the conversation

Brian Atlasbut um if you come back we'd be more than happy to uh to get that going uh let me just check here see if we have any

Brian Atlasuh uh hold up hold up one sec okay so squish uh oh wait did did something come in from Modest hakama and it didn't

Brian Atlastrigger she's not fend color girl zombies oh okay that okay okay um all right um sorry guys I'm losing my brain here uh okay is there anything we're

Yamaniforgetting anything we're forgetting any any quick fin thoughts from anybody before we wrap up live laugh love just yeah love we should all be listening to each other even here I'm

Yamaninot here to argue with you guys I taken some of your points you had some valid inflated points so you know I learned a few things wait Nick you got to be looking out for these mics moving

Brian Atlasman cuz I can't be focused so you got here scoot your mic that way a little bit when you're speaking okay you had some invalid deflated points don't play with me you know I was makes y'all know I be making points come on come I

Kikienjoyed your points thank you for coming thank you love all these lovely ladies even if we agree to disagree oh I think okay here's the last thing you uh

Haley Hermsyou wanted to talk about sugar baby convo oh me yeah I think a sugar baby yeah what um do you currently have a sugar daddy no I stopped

Haley Hermsthat like 22 so like 6 years ago after my mom died wait hold on oh it somebody must have banged into the camera that's why

SPEAKER_02she's out of frame how did you not notice that Nick she banged into the camera recently or I didn't see it how yeah but Nick I can't be I can't be multitasking like come on you got to I'm

Brian Atlasdoing stuff too I'm focusing I know but like want me to move it no it's whatever just leave it but a little bit like this

Brian Atlasno that's too much right there a little more more more more okay um all right okay um you said you had a sugar

Haley Hermsdaddy I've had a I'm just curious how much you had a couple yeah how much were you making um even every Arrangement is different uh so like one guy we'd like

Haley Hermsdo like a pay per meet or we'd do like a monthly thing and he'd give me in the first half at the beginning of the month whatever so it's probably depending like like for four hours just to go on a date

Haley Hermswith me was $700 and uh to spend time with me afterwards like $2500 on top of the 700 so usually per visit or per month like

Haley Hermswe were like talking anywhere from like 700 to like 5,000 but also like my mom was dying and I was trying to take care of three households

Haley Hermsso and were were you sleeping with these men uh only two of them and they were each separately separate times and one I

Haley Hermswas with we had been together for a year and I had been dating him for 4 months before anything got physical so we were like and he still paid me in that time

Haley Hermsso it was like a real connection and then the other guy we slept together once but the sex was really bad and it

Haley Hermswasn't worth the money okay um that's CRA I mean just even with a sugar daddy I want a connection like I wasn't just going to

Haley Hermslike sleep with anyone or do like you know like it really feels like I know it was a mutually beneficial Arrangement but it genuinely like had connections with these people met their families

Haley Hermsvacations like I even dropped one of my sugar daddies for Yani when he came out as a racist oh I remember tell wouldn't you guys get along though because you're kind of

Brian Atlasracist against white people I'm yeah she's black he was racist against black people no but if you object if you object so strongly to racism how why is it that you're racist against white people I mean I just don't think you can be

Haley Hermsracist against white people that's reverse racist that's kind of racist potato Pata it's kind of racist to say that you can't be racist against white people didn't we have that whole chat about how I'm reforming and like

Brian Atlastrying to like but the words that literally just came out of your mouth uh November 28th 2023 at 11:30 p.m is you can't be racist to white people that is

Brian Atlasa racist statement right wait what was what was the statement that you can't be you can't be racist against white people that in in of itself is a racist statement that's a racist statement do

Haley Hermsyou feel you were like I hate black people do you think yeah that would be your mom or grandma would be like you're racist yanii absolutely not I don't know no but you said it's

Andrew Wilsonit's not just yeah but that doesn't even make sense sense that would be like saying okay you believe though that if a black person said X about white people that's still wouldn't be racist right so

Andrew Wilsonthen why you make the analogy of asking her do you think that your mom because we're talking about my own race yeah that's actually I know analogy but who cares even if we are talking about your own race because you don't believe

Yamanianybody can be racist to him anyway so like it's an I don't even understand what the point of that was ate that up yeah I'm confused too like making his own Point you're proving I'm like a

TTS/Donationsagreeing to H this like I don't I don't think we're beefing here s38 donated $200 Mira come yawn in my bed for fixed hash dollar and we can take my jet anywhere you

Brian Atlaswant bro get the off the show leave just get up leave get up leave this is she's been one of the most disruptive guests we've ever had she

Brian Atlascannot stay still she's been obtuse the entire time like if you're going to go come and snore I've given her so many passes

Brian Atlaslike that was my ride oops okay I mean look it's just rude that she's granted we've gone late but it's she's been rude this entire time

Brian AtlasI've G I've given her so many passes she's getting up she's being disruptive so uh whatever um okay I'm just going to end the show

Brian Atlasum um thank you guys for coming those of you who made it um she could have just put on a uh just let okay whatever um let's hear it for big dick

Brian AtlasBrian you got the CL there you go I got the thank you for the I'm going to put that on my resume thank you thank you for the endorsement um much appreciated I will say this though I like that you

Andrew Wilsonkicked her off like 2 minutes before we ended the sh Jo that's perfect I yeah I mean

Brian Atlasuh that I've never no it's not I mean pretty good I don't think I've had anybody that like have we had somebody that I don't

Brian Atlasknow she was up and about moving around like just being disruptive generally disruptive so she probably has ADHD I have ADHD and I sit here for and whatever um I think it's just she's not

Brian Atlasgetting wasn't getting enough attention so whatever okay guys um thank you for tuning in thank you all uh go to Twitch twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub just shout out to everybody thank you guys for all the

Brian AtlasPrimes um I I got to wrap up the show what's up Nick no let's just I'm gonna wrap follow me okay guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you for tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you were here with me I appreciate

Brian Atlasthat thank you to everyone who super chats donates supports the show thank you to grid One Motorsports Raven DT camh seberg LP M jaama Jay Butler uh everybody else who so

Brian Atlasgenerously uh supports the show and um who are patrons of the show thank you guys very much thank you to the wonderful panel this was uh quite a uh unique and interesting show you guys

Brian Atlaswere wonderful uh aside from the blaring glaringly aggreg just racism and sexism um otherwise you guys were great um any

Brian Atlaswomen who want to be on the show DM out whatever we are going to be live on Thursday normally we don't do a Thursday show but we will we will be live on Thursday 5:00 p.m. Pacific um got a little specialty show for you guys

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