HEATED Debate With Man Hating Feminist?! IG Model KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #122

Date: 2023-11-29

Duration: 6h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

FFarah Khalidi >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_06Yamani/Lena(guest)

SPEAKER_07Fara Khalji(guest)

SPEAKER_08Mera(guest)

SPEAKER_09Yamani(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_11Macy(guest)

SPEAKER_12Haley Herms(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMacy recounts father placing gun in her hand at his own head at age 17

“he tried to have me murder him and like my best friend we like almost all died... he put a gun in my hand to have me try to kill him and was like holding my hand with the gun in his head”

Key MomentFara states she would let humanity go extinct rather than restrict LGBT rights

“I stated that I'm prioritizing autonomy over a utilitarian conception of prolonging the human race”

QuoteFara reveals 2020 suicide attempt during philosophical debate about autonomy

“my last suicide attempt was in 2020 let's not get into that”

ControversyMera calls Andrew's population replacement argument 'Hitler-like'

“you trying to replace the society that sounds like some Hitler that that's crazy”

ControversyBrian repeatedly insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies emphatically multiple times

“I don't know how many times I have to say this to you Brian you have... I already told you it's not true but you keep making me”

ControversyHaley claims you can't be racist against white people; Brian calls this statement itself racist

“I just don't think you can be racist against white people”

QuoteHaley reveals former sugar baby history and using OnlyFans earnings for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral

“I used the money to pay for my Catholic grandmother's funeral”

OtherBrian kicks Mera off the show near the end (~6h31m) for persistent disruptive behavior

“bro get the [expletive] off the show leave just get up leave get up leave this is she's been one of the most disruptive guests we've ever had”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, location. Then relationship status round. Mera (refuses to reveal age, ~33, Sherman Oaks, Twitch streamer, 4-year single 'boy phase'). Haley Herms (28, LA, plus-size model). Fara Khalji (24, Miami, content creator). Yamani (27, LA, bottle service/clothing). Lena (25, Delaware, OnlyFans). Macy (27, Mobile AL, insurance adjuster, married). Andrew Wilson (debate host, mechanical engineer, married 10+ years). Kiki (co-host).

Boy stage, terminology, and promiscuity norms

Discussion of the term 'boy phase' vs 'slut' for women. Whether men wife up promiscuous women. Debate on societal double standards for body count between men and women.

Kiki's relationship status and consent contract

Kiki describes 'complicated' status: met someone before China trip, gave him a written contract of negotiables/non-negotiables. He is still reviewing while she was away. Discussion of relationship contracts.

Mera's 100 dates in 2 months

Brian probes Mera about going on 100 dates in 2 months without finding anyone. Mera describes looking for connection and authentic experience. Discussion of age, fertility, egg freezing, and what she is actually looking for.

Guns and second amendment discussion

Panel asked if a man owning a gun is positive/neutral/negative. Andrew endorses gun ownership enthusiastically. Macy shares traumatic story of father holding gun to own head with her hand on it at age 17.

Yamani: men paying for her time off from bottle service

Yamani says men frequently offer to pay her bottle service wages (~$500+) to skip work and go on dates. Discussion of implications and transactional dating.

Feminist debate: promiscuity, population replacement, and autonomy

Andrew and Mera debate: does promiscuity harm society? Population replacement argument. Mera calls Andrew's replacement language 'Hitler-like' (misunderstanding). Extended hypothetical: would you let humanity go extinct to preserve autonomy/LGBT rights? Andrew says he would restrict certain behaviors to prevent extinction. Fara says she prioritizes autonomy over prolonging the human species.

Monogamy, nuclear family, and societal outcomes

Andrew argues monogamy and nuclear family optimal for children and society. Mera and Fara push back on imposing relationship structures. Discussion of women initiating 80% of divorces, stepfather risk data. Haley describes herself as socialist/feminist but Traditional Values in personal relationships.

Haley on communism and socialism

Haley describes herself as socialist with interest in communism. Discussion of whether communism works (small-scale communes vs large scale). Andrew argues communism requires compelled service. Haley defends communism as theoretical Utopia. Discussion of inflation, millennials, affordability of nuclear family.

Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Panel rates own looks. Haley: 10 in fat community, 7.5 in society. Lena: 10 (confidence 10, societal 7-8). Brian: 5 (gained weight). Andrew: 6. Mera: 10. Yamani and Fara also 10. Rating round devolves into debate about fat attraction and political messaging.

Ideal sex frequency

Each guest shares ideal sex frequency. Mera: 2-4 times per day. Haley: once or twice a day. Mera reveals she takes birth control to reduce her high sex drive.

Haley's plus-size model career and OnlyFans content

Discussion of fat attraction, Andrew vs Haley debate over whether attraction to plus-size women is genuine or fetish. Haley claims shredded men are her top DMs. Her OnlyFans revenue from weigh-in/eating videos. Used OnlyFans earnings to pay for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral.

Cosmetic procedures round

Brian asks who has had cosmetic procedures. Mera: deviated septum fix as child, lip filler yearly. Brian insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies multiple times.

Body count discussion

Body count round started. Andrew says he wouldn't be surprised if some women don't know their count. Discussion of double standards for high body count men vs women. Fara argues pair bonding applies more to women than men. Debate on whether men with high body counts are hypocritical for wanting low body count women.

Former sugar baby (Haley)

Haley reveals she had sugar daddy arrangements until age 22 (stopped after mother died). Charged $700 for date, $2500+ for time afterward. Total per visit $700-$5000. Had 2-3 sugar daddies, was intimate with 2. Dropped one after he revealed racist beliefs.

Mera kicked off show

Brian asks Mera to leave after she gets up from table and is disruptive. Cites her being obtuse, not staying seated, moving around repeatedly throughout show. Andrew notes timing was comedic (2 min before show end).

Transcript

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Yamanikicking violence whatever so all those things like we maybe maybe get a little bit more amped up when it comes to like being in relationships so maybe that's why but I mean for the most part

Andrew Wilsonlike I don't so the only reason so by that logic then the only reason that women aren't smacking men when they're inside of relationships with them is because the man can hit her harder probably I'm not going to lie that would

Andrew Wilsonmean that inherently you're saying that women are more violent than men well just like that's what you would be saying we're we're talking about men vers women acting on their right but if

Andrew Wilsonyou're saying that no it's actually that women are more violent there's a det let me finish let I'm sure you wanted to smack a girl before what she saying is this she's

Andrew Wilsonsaying yeah that but that's my point is that that's what stopped you though yeah but you're saying here honestly saying here that women are more violent than men and that the only reason at least in

Andrew Wilsonrelationships you must be because you say that the reason that they attack each other in samesex relationships more is because they're more violent they just just don't do that to men because men can hit them harder so they have to

Andrew Wilsonrestrain themselves from striking them which means that if you were to reverse the role and say that men were the weaker sex that women would be way more abusive to them than men are to

Yamaniwomen gotch it okay uh just say it like that's crazy I I I was also I was just you asked why it wasn't necessary I was just saying what

Brian Atlasmight the possibility be I still stand let me do a couple chats then we got some more tweets we got seberg Traditions are experiments that worked if you choose to take the untraditional path it is your choice but it does not it does come with increased risk also

Brian AtlasMera seems crazy enough to have did I say wrong to have fun with but no more do you want to respond to that Myra I is

Brian Atlasit mea sorry sorry sorry sorry my bad she's making a spectical she looks like a sleepy dog you know when dogs get sleepy not not

Brian Atlasthat wasn't like cute it's like a cute dog no I wasn't you know trying to there's energy drink right here someone get let's give wait did you get that just for her Nick Mera give her give her

Brian Atlasthe energy Dr give her do a little okay got that long we got Davon Jackson while women who hate men are less likely to act out physically towards men than use other avenues such as gossip innuendo

Brian Atlasand reputation destruction more likely to finesse financially and spread falsehood that is I I think okay I agree with that yeah maybe women are more sneaky with their violence against men

Haley Hermstrue but it's not like physically harming them me we were just talking about physical violence though that was really and motion yeah I mean it's definitely the case um anally and

Brian Atlasemotionally women are hurting men women I mean reputation destruction is huge like that's frequently used uh you I think that only really works if you live

Andrew Wilsonin like a small town but I mean well dick and everywhere no no I mean the the big problem is like uh workplace right just workplace you can

Andrew Wilsondestroy a man's reputation inside of the workplace spread rumors things like that now you have isolated the area in which most of his peers are so okay so yeah you could use gossip and slander to

Andrew Wilsonreally good effect by just kind of narrowing the pool as to where it'll hurt most you're right big city just screaming at the rooftop this guy's piece of that doesn't do anything but spreading the rumors around his

Andrew Wilsonsmall workplace that would do something yeah we're trying how am I doing that in the work well usually they they send an email they call they do they do things like that or they talk to the wives who

Brian Atlasare you knowers that type of thing let's get some tweets let's get some tweets more tweets we got more tweets go ahead Boys Boys Boys where the real men at

Haley Hermsokay this one where's the real man where where are they March updated men are still trash 2019 so that was you were that was most of these are 2019 so you

Haley Hermswere 24 then so I mean fully functioning I was out of a breakup okay all right I'm not saying it's Justified but that's why I was hating

Haley Hermsmen so much I'm c monthly update men are still trash I need to make this a scrapbook 2018 trash Oh read it oh go

Haley Hermsback women who's why are men trash next next women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition so what are

Haley Hermsyou saying are you saying there is that women need to want to seek hold on let me think about I got to go back to like 2012 here what does that tweet say again

Haley Hermswomen who what seek to be equal with men it means superiority lack ambition what did I mean by that that that means that

Brian Atlasyou want women to seek superiority over men how is equal I'm curious how wait but how am I telling them they lack ambition as a woman if equality is all

Brian Atlasyou want you lack ambition your Conquest needs to go beyond just equality it needs to be Supremacy that's my interpretation of it I mean how else would damn I don't know

Haley Hermsif I was thinking that deep at 16 but all right maybe that's it I'm not honestly I don't that one's recall Maybe you could be correct with that one I have no defense for that it just it just

Haley Hermscame naturally to you maybe uh go ahead it's just crazy how someone can treat you so bad wait can hurt you so bad then treat you like a sex object update men are still trash I guess and there's a

Brian Atlasbunch more um my question to you is why not just say my past partner was trash or this specific individual or these specific individuals are trash because

Haley Hermsit to me it occurs to me I could do that for you Brian I could start that she goes home and I like to be openminded this podcast H men her trash Oh no

Haley HermsI'll probably TW I'm probably going to tweet this is for Brian men are okay I'll tweet it right now I have a question but you can't walk back because you're being be because you're being

Haley Hermsconfronted I feel like you're you're walking back an actual genuine position that you hold no well I see that yes but think maybe I

Haley Hermsdon't know like not so much that you could vouch for me but I don't know when I think back to like 2010 2014 2016 those tweets I'm growing up in a conservative neighborhood I have very

Haley Hermsconservative beliefs I've like have all these like different things in me but at the same time I had just started like hanging out with gangs and gang banging and selling drugs and doing all that

Haley Hermssort of stuff who and so I was working in mostly male male dominated Fields where I was the

Haley Hermsonly women woman which game were you involved in they're like neighborhood gangs in well in a g it's G gentrified pretty now like around Sant were you a g are you I was in a gang I was like

Haley Hermsholding drug did you get jumed in huh uh jumped I mean I was very much like had you were in the G like where were you like yeah I was I was told ways to get

Haley Hermsin there's way to get in but it's also if like being white you have to like EXT ra like prove yourself wait what gang crib just well there's like no it's not

Haley Hermslike subsets yeah so like you'll go to different like was it the Viking no mostly Hispanic and then I started working for the Asian Mafia oh so

Haley HermsI'm mostly like been wait what about the drug what were you doing with drugs statute of limitations long story short St stock market crashes around like 2008 whatever mom's like you're going to

Haley Hermspublic school now like we can't afford anything I'm like okay I go to public school I'm like oh my God and like in grade school you were dealing drugs high

Haley Hermsschool high school I started selling fake IDs and then I started selling drugs after I had people like bring me

Haley Hermsto parties like I you know at the public school so uh mostly worked around men I would say I actually trust men more than I trust women because women didn't

Haley Hermsbelieve me growing up but growing up still around all these other dynamics of being like the men are in charge you got to listen to the men whatever men right

Haley Hermsyep fast forward these years I want to say like [Music] 2017 I'm having like the liberal

Haley HermsAwakening and like which and then two three years ago pans into like communism and socialism and just like literally like if you looked at like older me

TTS/Donationsmodest heima donated $200 women are suppressed by white imagine growing up with such privilege not understanding what living in the US

TTS/Donationsactually means in communist Cuba I had so many freedoms like farming staying that doesn't sound bad though

Haley Hermsthank you hak um but so I would definitely like I I would say I I can't even I mean I've cut people you shank

Brian Atlassomebody you cut somebody shank them you cut like cut with a yeah damn slice I was there you were there can't talk too

Macymuch about it huh H okay let's get back to the tweets um okay I have a question about the last tweet okay what was the last tweet she said that how can a man

MacyTreat Me So Bad hurt me so bad and then treat me like a sex object yeah question is is that not what you see yourself as um not

Haley Hermscurrently I like I think there's a difference between being a sex object and a sex symbol and I think my whole life I've resonated with being a sex symbol I think that's just you preferring a different word so it fits

Haley Hermswhat no because So What by sex object that means like you can treat me however you want sexually you can sexual objectification sex symbol means I'm a representation of something it's not

Haley Hermssomething like sex yeah so you could have okay it's the same but that's like saying you're a sexual person but that like if you Embrace her sexuality that doesn't mean that like just because a girl dresses doesn't mean she's

Andrew Wilsonhaving sex she has an only fans doesn't mean she's doing porn yeah but if Technic it does but I mean I have only fans I don't do porn right but what

Macydo you take your clothes off for money topless okay that's porn yes any are you are you making money by taking your clothes off it's not hard taking my top off okay well I

Macymean that's a justification of what you want the definition of porn to be I mean most people are sending people are sending people nudes for free is that porn too they're sending a person that they know or so Rel do you think it's

Macyporn because I'm getting paid for it or because I think it's porn because you're taking your clothes off and letting strange people that you don't know look at for the purpose of being sexualized and you know it's for the purpose of being sexualized why make a sex object

Fara Khaljiyeah if I take my clothes with my husband and I let him me the same thing at

Macyall searching your name and seeing you naked on my phone I have no idea who you are or anything about you you would have to go like through several pay walls to see me naked hang that doesn't matter

Haley Hermsyou getting money for it makes it worse not better makes you more a sex object why is it better that girls do it for free and I just get paid for it I had

Haley Hermsliterally never sent a nude in my entire life until last January and girls been sending nudes for free all the time and they're not the uh oh we know you okay I'm not

Brian Atlasgoing to say that mon come on regardless of blank or not next please okay here we're just we're we're running out of time I got I want to try to get through all the tweets go ahead Nick go ahead if you can read this oh yeah men they say you can't live with them can't live

Brian Atlaswithout them but right now I could totally live without them valid I have a question you mean like romantically or just s like societally um I think a lot of these tweets come

Haley Hermsfrom like when I don't want to be approached by men I think it's kind of like a defense mechanism like someone's trying to reach out to me they're not getting the hint they're not whatever best way is to be like I hate men they see my social media posts and either

Haley Hermsthey're like well I guess she's off limits right now or they say and they're like like I said earlier I love this girl like she doesn't like men she likes me like she's perfect so there's some guys where like yeah it turns them off and then there's some guys that turn

Haley Hermsthem on but but I think my expression of hatred towards men is times I either didn't want to be like sex object sex symbol whatever you want to package it

Haley Hermsas I just wanted to be like get away from me like this is my red flag red alert like don't encounter me it's like a safety coping mechanism and I'm like in the nicest way we could probably find like a thousand I love dick you

Haley Hermswould say it's a cope uh maybe some parts yeah it's like therapy Twitter's always been kind of like my diary here yes I have a question for you your spot comments first actually go ahead so first of all I

Merawanted to say it's terrible that you had to go through such abuse from your dad and I'm really sorry for that I understand that you mask in a lot of

Merathat trauma with your sense of humor and your sarcasm but do you think that your relationships and especially the ones to come in the future even if they're

Haley Hermshealthy they will be affected by the trauma with your dad that has not been healed um I don't think so that's why that's why I feel like like not I'm a

Haley Hermschanged woman but I did take like the past two years to like fully like I purposely like was celibate because I didn't want to like be date men and lead them on or treat them a certain way

Haley Hermsbecause I was feeling a certain way towards my ex and CU I'm very empathetic I do really care like how I make somebody feel hurting because I was like physically like hurt so badly like

Haley Hermsputting people in pain like makes me like cringe like genuinely and so it's like I hate men's easier to like just kind of like you know like a diary entry post whatever but the past like two

Haley Hermsthree years like I'm in therapy I'm working on it it's a big part of the reason why I didn't want to be in a relationship so I think it'd be one thing if I was tweeting I hate men and was actively pursuing relationships with

Haley Hermsmen but I I wasn't and not only that but I was like trying to push men away from me and not let them in so I think now as I'm still doing the work I go to therapy

Haley Hermsand have I have PTSD and EMDR and do all these things for those things I think whoever gets me would actually like be pretty lucky because I'm like healing from this I'm a better Communicator I

Haley Hermsthink I'm a better mother there's reason I have six God children so at the end and three of those God children are all boys so at the end of the day I do see where you're coming from I think yeah

Haley Hermsthat's probably some things I've done in the past but that's definitely not who I want to be in the future which is why you know we haven't seen those

MeraTweets in three years I can't wear two at the same time car join me more I'm okay Kik no you you put this one on and I'll take that one okay I don't like red

Haley Hermsyou put this one on it matches your shirt so but yeah so I'm I'm genuinely like not to be cornball but I'm doing the work so like that doesn't happen and

Haley Hermsthat's why I said I don't understand how any try to get over like being like here let's just try to get through all the tweets let's just try to get through all the tweets so we can okay how am I

Brian Atlaslosing friends to white men disgusted oh yes wait okay we let's not linger we'll we'll just get through all of them and then we can if there's any to address go ahead Nick yo is it just me

Haley Hermsor our men extra trash this week 2019 next Can we pretty please send all the CIS white men to a different planet still feel that all the men that

Haley Hermstalk to yamani are trash when was that can we

Haley Herms2018 why do men feel the need go ahead why do men feel the need to mansplain things which I think is a sexist statement to make man I think what do you think about mansplaining then think

Brian AtlasSE huh well okay so what term like I'm well I think for example I assume you'd object to like woman splaining that

Yamanimight be heard that but okay exactly but there's not an overall sometimes as girls we know sometimes guys just explain stuff to us in a little bit of like a baby voice and like a little bit

Haley Hermsof like a slowed down or they'll tell us what we literally just told and it's somehow their idea I'm like I literally just said that out my mouth this white men's Planet will come

Brian Atlasback straight white men is it man's plaining just explaining with a point yes because women when we explain we have no point is that that's not what he's saying I think but go ahead men are

Haley Hermsreally trash men really be trash next I know men ain't but they extra ain't this week TW as recently as 2023 I hate white people that's uh my mom used to tell me

Haley HermsI was racist against white people growing up aren't you white yeah okay I really don't trust white people that much um to be fair ha is it okay to be

Brian Atlasracist against your own race well let's go around the Reverse Racism does that exist I do want to go around the table on this but we will come back to the tweets really quick um can you be racist against hold on can you be racist

Meraagainst white people and can you be sexist against men starting with you go ahead I wanted to talk about nipples and why it's okay for men to

Brian Atlasshow them and not for women we'll get to that we'll get to that here take your I love her here that's B oh I think okay got can you help me it got locked is it

Brian Atlaslock unlock it yes oh there you go your phone thank you I'll take it okay do you want to answer the question though back to

Haley Hermsreality question you want uh do you think you can be racist against white people and uh does sexism against men exist right well no can you be can you

Brian Atlascan you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men if you white can you be racist against white take that off the table

Meraplease go ahead so is that racism if I'm white and I'm generalizing a negative idea about white people I'm just asking I want to move around the table quick on

TTS/Donationsthis so can you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men yes yes modest Heim donated $200 can we move on from the C show she

TTS/Donationshas her too much feed in his to work thinks her words make sense we are all Ed it's like saying crazy she thinks white men want Mir be nice though let's

Brian Atlasavoid the personal insults if we can um going to you for the can you be racist against white people can you be sexist against men well I don't think Reverse Racism against white people

Brian Atlasexist I don't know what I don't really know what Reverse Racism is but can you be racist against white people and can you be sexist against men no and and then what was the second one can you be racist against white people and can you

Haley Hermsbe sexist against men so so no to no yes you can't be racist against white people no that's Reverse Racism and I don't believe that exists now are you

Brian Atlastalking about let's say are you saying are is your definition of racism Prejudice plus

Yamanipower uh like in what like the ability to enforce the racism is what you consider racism versus just like me not like a white person cuz I think you can

Yamanibe racist against any maybe that you consider racism what makes it racist is that you can enforce it and make some change someone else's life so does that

Brian Atlasmean that women can't be racist oh no no I was just expain women can be racist oh but that wasn't into the mics guys into the mics just a reminder women can be

Brian Atlasracist I don't know what that let me ask a question could let's say we were in China okay could people in China be racist against white people in

Haley HermsChina yes right could Chinese people be racist towards white people let's say I'm let's say I'm an immigrant to China I mean we have like no culture so like what are like what's the racism about white

Brian Atlaspeople have no culture O Let's I want to hear the culture I know cure Beethoven Mozart chopan Shubert Bo there's

Haley Hermsthe like that's what you're referring to most there's so much culture in Europe yeah that's a good point okay maybe Americans don't have culture yes they do

Andrew Wilsonthey brought over their they brought from Europe and then and then inside of the United States all over you can see collectives of this from

Andrew WilsonEuropeans who settled in the South which has some of its own unique culture if you go west it has its own unique culture and then on the East Coast same thing so yeah they brought over a lot of things but it was a hodg podge of years

Andrew WilsonEuropean heritages so but yeah there's definitely some there's definitely some culture here in the US for sure my people don't have culture we got culture who's

Haley Hermsculture I don't know like kind of RAC stat style don't you think it's kind of racist to say white people don't have culture What's the culture I'm genuinely curious like when you think white people

Haley Hermsculture in America what is it potato salad Starbucks psls like I'm so serious consider Italians white um I don't really think so no cuz

Haley Hermsmost people I know that are Italian don't like really like intertwine them they're like I'm not white I'm Italian I don't know they're white what about Irish people they white white okay so

Brian Atlasthe Irish are way but not the Italians well I don't know I thought we were talking about American you mentioned food so I'm thinking Italian cuisine for example okay in Italy well what would

Haley Hermsyou want I thought we were talking about American white culture you mentioned food but well you're talking about what is the European I mean the American white people culture like what is it no

Andrew Wilsonthat's listen the problem is is that you're framing the question incorrectly so when you you're trying to create a monolith out of a so you're making a set out of a subset okay so we actually have to look at the subset okay so in the

Andrew Wilsonsubset you would say what's American Irish culture Dutch culture etc etc etc like it's not a complete monolith so for instance the way that the the Dutch Amish behave are going to be completely

Andrew Wilsondifferent than the way that um you know the German Amish behave you would agree that that's true right but I'm talking about American white culture yeah that's Americans Amish are Americans they live in America okay yeah okay and they're

Andrew Wilsonwhite people so the thing is is but they're a subset so can I say that all of the things inside of Amish culture are part of white culture I think I can so I can say the wagons and the horses and the way that they live and their

Merareligion all of that is a subset of white culture because that's a subset of whites I also think it's quite subjective how you view the culture because even Starbucks that's where I'm and burgers you know people let's say in

MeraEurope will be looking at that American culture that you think is nothing exciting but for them they would be like o the American dream like look at that look at the fast food look at the cars look at their entertainment industry and

MeraI think a big factor is also time because it's fairly fresh compared to the European countries it's kind of considered I think time will pass and people will look back and think about it as like the

Meragrand time okay in history does that make sense that is um generally described like in terms of fast food fast money capitalism entertainment like

Meraeverything that perhaps you could be perceiving as like negative right now okay sorry but what's what's the that's also culture I think she just saying that we have maybe a few years modest

TTS/Donationsheima donated $200 fat white southern girl from the south who doesn't understand she's fat and white what do you think made you fat and white are you only fat because

Andrew WilsonSouthern USA what mental Hoops leads you to that I think that's how do we think that was from the south I want to know what was it see when I say that you have

Andrew Wilsonto look at everything and look at it as a subset to culture okay so like each in people don't have exciting culture

Haley Hermswhat like I don't know as as as compared to what I mean like African Heritage Hispanic culture Hispanic culture is

Haley Hermshigh octane and comparison to because it's almost by the way when I think culture I think about like people cooking in their kitchen passing down

Andrew Wilsonlike recipes Traditions like like the Italians and the Irish and like the the Germans the mass migration to Germany I mean it's ridiculous the white people around me growing up everywhere I live

Haley Hermswere we're not partaking in this the driest food no stories no one shows emotions very cold the driest food yes

Haley Hermsthe worst food but like Itali okay well all right here white people I have grown up around have had no culture where did

Andrew Wilsonyou grow up again Orange County Orange County what California you mean yes yeah well Orange County California is basically a just a progressive cess Pool

Brian Atlasisn't it pretty conservative that's what I'm saying I look here let's keep moving um can you be racist can you be racist against white people can you be sexist against men yes but not all instances are as charged so I think wearing a

Fara Khaljishirt that says I hate men a sexist but I'm not necessarily going to care as much as wearing shirt say I still think I still think it's discrimination sex or race that could be your in-group bias speaking no I think it's just

Fara Khaljistatistical accuracy do you think do you think do you object to mandre like do I I like I said think her tweets are you think you think I don't think her tweets are a good example I

Brian Atlaswould never tweet what she tweets but I'm not going to also like protest it and it maybe in the same way but I wouldn't do it you wouldn't okay you wouldn't do it but let's just let's just

Brian Atlasassume that you're right the misogyny is worse than misinger so do you object to misinger perhaps not to the degree that you object to misogyny but do you still

Fara Khaljiobject to it or do you feel it's Justified no I I mean it's Justified maybe in that she's reacting to a trauma but I don't think it's productive so I would say like that's you know what I mean I don't think she should do it okay

Yamanium but I wouldn't NE can you be racist against can you be racist against white people can you be sexist against men um I probably not I mean you can not like

Yamaniwhite people but obviously if you think about I'm not saying it's okay to not like white people I love what do you think about white people I just said I love white people but obviously I've

Brian Atlasexperienced the shittier part of white people can I ask you guys a question if if a black person victimized me in some way would I be justified in

Brian Atlasbroadly discriminating against or having contempt or hatred towards black people how do they discriminate against you would okay that's not if someone if a black person like if I was victimized by a black person would that give me

Yamanipretext to hate all black people I mean I personally I don't want to say I would didn't care but if you if someone a black person did something bad to you and you turned around were like I

Yamanihate black people like I get it psychologically just like if someone does something bad to you it makes sense why you would it doesn't make sense but I could see why you would not like those other people but to have one person do

Yamanisomething to you and then say that that means that you hate all of those people I think that would be a little bit dramatic but if you were to say you don't like black people I don't know that I would care that much I mean I

Yamani/Lenathink that would be racist but um okay what about it would be racist oh you just don't object to the okay I say yes to both I think you could be racist against white people and you can also be

Macysexist against men and then you I agree but I also think that the descriptions uh that everyone over there is using is just

Macyprolonging their ability to make whatever definition of sexism or racism fit what they want it to fit rather than I've seen a couple of episodes where girls are like saying that there is a

Macyspectrum of like black and white of for you know there is a gray for everything and I I viviant disagree with that um okay here let's just try to get through

Haley Hermsthe tweets oh my God oh my gosh I told you we'd be here all night keep going uh gen generally scares me to be alone in a house or a car with a white older male well that's cuz my dad yep next can we

Haley Hermstake all the white straight males and them to their own Island thank you Honda well that's nicer than the planet okay we just we just need to send all the white males to another planet planet

Haley HermsIsland the previous one was CIS white man okay yes uh next sometimes I wish I was a straight white man so I could do anything I want and not care how it affects any others sigh do you do you

Brian Atlasthink that's the case that just white men can pretty much run rough shot and do anything for the most part at least where I grew up okay painting a picture here okay

Haley Hermsnext I guess I didn't realize how deep my hatred for white people goes like they literally make me livid I'm going to need to do some deep healing work on this one 2020 and I

Haley Hermsstarted that Journey that was three years ago okay yeah yep like I said two or three years ago I started try to spin my out of my hatred for men sometimes I wake up and I can't believe I dated a

Haley Hermswhite man for 3 months damn remember white boy that's what that was what we called him okay no next oh that's it wow okay we got through all of them okay I mean you didn't tweet much lately no

Haley Hermsbecause I'm trying to change I dated a white guy for 3 months I couldn't believe it but when I asked you if you still feel the same way I think there's some Hal truths there I

Haley Hermsdefinitely don't think my hatred goes as deep I have more perspective as someone now like in the world and like not a teen not in college whatever have more just as you were as recently as two or 3

Haley Hermsyears ago you were making some of those tweets so you would have been 25 two or three years ago is when I started like my therapy journey and was like I need to heal for exactly what she was talking about was not projecting that onto men

Haley Hermswhich I don't like I don't think you you were here for this when I said this but that's what I've been working on in therapy so I don't project on men so why I was celibate didn't date for a year was I didn't want to project the hatred

Haley HermsI felt for my dad and my ex on to new men you say you're recovering misandrist I'm a recovering misandrist but you you've already said are you going to have relapses they'll probably be relapses there's going to be

Brian AtlasRel there probably will be but I'm going to really try for you guys I'm really trying so it's just shocking it's shock

TTS/Donationsto me those tweets are egregiously abhorent and okay store easy donated $200 how do you hate white people when

Haley Hermsyou look like a giant to adom let's not do adom because I told you growing up in specifically where I grew up because apparently people are here are not having this shed white people shared

Haley Hermsexperiences the white it's like when you said if a black man punch you would you hate all black people no but if the same black man punched you every day for 15 years you might hate some black

Brian Atlaspeople I would hate that individual person I wouldn't broadly like I just it's crazy to me because how many are you sure about that there's billions of

Yamanimen on this on this planet I think you guys are also underestimating how I'm not I don't hate men and not every man that all of us have come in contact with is a terrible person but most women do

TTS/Donationshave she literally said all men are trash you said you said all men suck all men are gross all men are trash this but I was just saying 538 donated

Brian Atlas$200 is it mandr or chauvinistic uh it's Miss Andress it's Miss and yeah thank you B dude bone man this is my first time seeing you in the uh is this one of have you do you

Brian Atlasrecognize the name bone man is he one of your guys could be yeah well hey bone man this is your first time thank you for uh joining man appreciate it thank for all the support tonight um actually we have some of your

Brian Atlastweets so we can definitely get into nipples um wait did you have another point or no we recovered I'm recovering

TTS/Donationsmandas well I was just saying saying is I think it's just egregious abhorent and Truth bomb donated $200 thank you please

TTS/Donationsexplain to me how 133% of the population are responsible for 50% of violent crime this chick is racist as Funk and white

Brian Atlascismen are the problem was that me no it toward me what unfortunately we can't really get into that truth bomb but uh thank you very much for your patronage tonight much appreciate racism is the

Haley Hermsanswer poverty come on baby I think there're s okay never mind um yeah it's it's a lot of the white sis men that were before us or so do them I'm just curious do you

Brian Atlasthink the world would be a bet cuz you said we should send white men CIS white men an island there was less white

Haley Hermspeople what yo it's C I couldn't imagine maybe not currently but like in back in the day we could have I couldn't not imagine

Haley HermsI think the world would be a better place with less fat people who okay okay let's not get crazy it's a joke everyone's Jing it doesn't need to be a joke because most people feel that way

Brian Atlasthe difference is one is a okay okay look I don't care I would never allow what you just said to ever escape my mouth but um so you you said the it would the world would be better with if

Brian AtlasI wasn't white I probably wouldn't have said it but this is how I feel as a white woman get wait does she have the past I guess I don't know the past but you said you said white men CIS white men should be sent to another planet

Brian Atlasmost the straight white should be sent mostly the straight white men okay um but you also said just the white men or just the men sent to another planet sent to another Island I

Brian Atlascertainly object to that um certainly disavow that okay she's healing um let me ask you a question though what does the world look like are you in you're

Andrew Wilsonactually in favor of like white people like I I wouldn't care if like the population of white people dwindled which it is which it is yes because when you look at a global

Yamaniminority you want it to become lessane guys no white people are a global minority because there's more people of color who cares if like that's what I just said they're a global minority oh

Andrew Wilsonyeah I was just explaining glob so so basically you don't like minorities that's going a little farther well I mean they're Global minority why do you want there to be less people are

Haley Hermsminority minorities no now they're becoming a majority like most people are obese right where it's getting to the point where most people are obese most children are obese these days and that's

Haley Hermsin America your government about that why is it cheaper to afford unhealthy Foods why like it's not it's not it's just cheaper to be lazy and that's what what's happens is

Andrew Wilsonpeople don't want to make their food many Reas why someone could be fat though it doesn't just come down to what you're eating oh yeah tell me about how the if you I'm fat and that means I'm malnourished give me that again give me

Andrew Wilsonthe how many times have I heard malnourish people are the fat people are just malnourish that's the problem I think they need a little bit less nourishing you know what I would suggest in fact it's I would suggest putting down the fork and if you put down the

Haley Hermsfork you're probably not going to be that's what I would suggest I mean you could say that but then you could also join me in the bathroom when I have an eating disorder and I'm throwing up all my good talk here wait let's just get back to the island look like that's

Nick (crew)what's going on here guys let's get back I fat people can have Eating Disorders too and I had injury car about the not the outake stop it get some guys guys

Brian Atlasguys guys guys let's get back to the island let's talk about is let's talk about the island and the planet okay so you would like what is decimation when

Brian Atlasyou reduce 10% of a to decimate a population is that reducing 10% of the popul would you like to decimate the the white I don't care about going out of my way to decimate you go out of your way

Haley Hermsif they're like hey we're taking out like 10% of the white people I'd be like who cares I'd probably like oh my off myself as tribute wait what I'd probably offer

Haley Hermsmyself as tribute you would you would I am a white person therefore I would yeah if I could die and that meant the Native Americans could take back the land to America I would like kill myself you

Brian Atlascurrently own a house you uh I did I sold it you sold it why didn't you offer it up for free to because I wasn't the only owner why didn't you collectively why

Brian Atlasdidn't you collectively in your communist Utopia offer to gift the land and the property to an indigenous person I mean that would be great if I had the power to do that of course you you I

Haley Hermswasn't the only one who was on the estate and then it was also managed by two other people okay so that one's like kind of here this this if if I had land to give away I would let's say you were

Brian Atlasthe the ultimate dictator of the world right okay if you could if you could manifest sending all white men to

Haley Hermsand I can't do that because my best friend's a gay white man that's why I'm like kind of like on the sis side but he like he knows and he doesn't

Brian Atlascare okay fine if you could send all CIS white men to a another planet or to an island forever in perpetuity would would you do

Brian Atlasit if you had the power to do it is there like and this is Ser it's a serious

Haley Hermsquestion I don't know I'm not going to say yes or no my God you don't you don't know well like is there like she would

TTS/Donationswhat's the what's the modest us we please skip Shamu it's not be nice come on guys white girls about

TTS/Donationstheir big bones Shamu you should have an eating disorder dumbass throwing off gravity please offer Andrew S guys be

Brian Atlasnice come holy brao do not scream these before no it's like I it comes in automatically it's instant I it's like boom I mean at least they're paying to

TTS/Donationsbe rude so like truth bomb donated $200 victim mindset to strong in this one she absolutely can't take ownership

TTS/Donationsfor anything she says or does this chick is absolutely nut to why don't you care about all the black men killing each other exactly well black- onblack crime

Haley Hermsis a huge problem but that's also mostly du to Ronald Reagan and richardon are you genoci are you a a genocidal just like Margaret Sanger oh

Brian Atlasno here we have here let me read this literally everything this uh was in the fire too long literally everything around white culture cars electricity politics literature technology work

Haley Hermsethic Innovation self-improvement philanthropy that's from litov is White worth ethic this whole country was built on people of color what like while the

Haley Hermswhite people just go do that go do that you know they had to oh my God what Innovation literally the way black people have given so much more to

Brian AtlasInnovation far do you co-sign her whole island Planet thing of sending white people to another planet yeah no into the mic please so they can no Brian no

Haley Hermsand then I would lose like a majority of my only fan subscribers so I'm not going to be Pro send the white man all the way to the planet and I'm not backing up on anything I say I stand on everything I said because at point in time that is

Brian Atlashow I genuinely feel but you canol grow as a person if all men just disappeared do you think the world would be better or worse all men it'd be safer and I'm

Brian Atlasbisexual so I wouldn't mind I do you actually think it the world would be safer if all men disappeared it would not be safer it would be absolutely catastrophic I think maybe would be

Andrew Wilsonsafer in the terms like maybe a wolf might get me or something I don't know a wolf a wolf yo AB Che thanks you for the gift to 20 memberships thank you I mean how many women would freeze to death and starve to death and can't do the same Well here here's the thing because

Andrew Wilsonbecause they can't maintain infrastructure women can't maintain infrastructure well if I'm so fat how am I going to starve to death Andrew are you saying well are you saying hibernation are you talking fa be fair

Brian Atlasbe fair for you for you it would be it might be 6 months for you okay so long as she has a water supply water you can water is what like 5 days

Haley Hermswithout you'll probably die I'll make it to the hospital the hospital I'm not worried yeah skinny person she gets stabbed she's probably going to hit an organ she's going to die I'm going to

Brian Atlasmake it to the hospital like if all men were to disappear the the immediate catastrophe that that would

Nick (crew)be for who immediate catastrophe I I don't think okay so 95% of tanker drivers are men 0% I'm sorry

Andrew Wilsonwhat tanker drivers tanker like in the war army truck tankers what's a tanker tank the thing that hauls the gasoline why you got a A 18 wheer so food I don't

Brian Atlasknow what a tanker Road workers are men that's tank water sewage electricity gas fuel refinement telecommunications it

Andrew Wilsoninfrastructure road maintenance uh uh delivery drivers police fire rescue fra about other things like frack electrical maintenance nuclear engineering like the list goes on and on and on for all the

Brian Atlasways are women incapable doing those things I'm just asking no but they're not they're not uh they're not meshed enough like if you had let's say you had

Brian Atlasthree months before you knew all men would disappear could women enter those workforces and they still couldn't actually there physiological differences no but the scenario is if all men just

Brian Atlasinstantly disappeared okay critical infrastructure if all men disappeared would fail within hours the Telecom network uh you loss of power would be uh

Haley Hermsbecause there's nobody maintaining it I guess I just don't care about technology enough to care if the power goes out if% of any population that's true it would be catastrophic since you guys like

Andrew Wilsonhypothetical question so much would you prefer that all women or all men disappear if you had the choice if if uh if we had the choice well obviously we we'd want all women to disappear if that was our choice what

Brian Atlasabout you because otherwise it would be self-termination right so you're saying there's in this scenario I'd have to choose yes well my just to preface this

Brian AtlasI wouldn't want women to disappear so you would choose man no no no no just so sorry in like I wouldn't want women to disappear I wouldn't want men to disappear but if I if this this crazy

Macyhypothetical if I had to choose I would prefer for men what about you I don't like to speak in hypotheticals that's all they've been doing lately the the whole convers if that's a

Brian Atlashypothetical as a hypothetical you have to choose here let's uh okay let's let's move on from that I guess uh can the women still have can the women still have kids and have men no well here's

Yamanithe thing even if you killed every man pop society would go on because technically somewhere out there there's some lady a few ladies who are pregnant with boys girls whatever so even right

Haley Hermsnow we killed every adult and child man in nine months somebody would have a baby and what about the hermaphodite are we counting them as women or men because I could read this is getting we're getting theet

Brian Atlaswould be done we are getting into the weeds here let's let's get to Myra's tweets here uh woman is hot men is this for my attention Okay what does this mean by

Brian Atlasthe way that was so how how old is this I don't know don't scroll down Nick I don't need no you can't see your own okay whatever next why is it natural to assume that a

Merasexual intercourse comes to an end once a man comes this actually you read it go ahead this socially accepted misbalance towards satisfying men's needs over women is

Brian Atlasdisturbing should I comment on that or is it self-explanatory so what I would answer to that with is that as a woman if you

Brian Atlasclimax you can granted some women can get over stimulated but as a woman if you climax you can continue engaging in sexual intercourse whereas men once we climax I mean there's some outliers I

Brian Atlassuppose but once you climax you're done you're in your you're in the refractory period you cannot continue now are you saying that the issue is that they should make sure if they cannot continue

Meraafterwards that a woman comes first I agree she's and a lot of men do not do that and unfortunately maybe you should stop having somebody one night stands and get a partner and then he'd be more concerned with you talking about me yeah

Brian AtlasI'm talking about I only had one only had one what out of remember and she only did the was established that you're 33 years old so that I mean I'm assuming

Brian Atlasthat there's been besides the past two months you've also dated and engaged in yeah but one night s was only once you've only had one one night s and I realized I didn't like it fair enough so

Merawas that the only time that a man did not care about your sexual pleasure um I think it's not just me but yes I had

Merasome bad experiences as well I think generally speaking men are used to perceiving a woman as just somebody to

Merasatisfy his needs erroneous yeah and like erroneous erroneous I willm does not matter for majority no false something that doesn't

Meraeven exist erroneous wait what what some some men even think that doesn't exist and Women fake it a lot and there's just this whole system of just miscommunication I'll tell you this I'll

Brian Atlastell you this in my own experience I want my girl to come before me and I will put in I'll give it the old College try I'll give it a good faith effort I want her to come before me if possible some women are

Brian Atlasmulti-orgasmic multiple times even I want her to come during sex and then after a couple orgasms then I'll finally okay I guess I can come that's my view

Haley HermsI'm I'm a giver not when it comes to conolingus but I'm a giver wait what oh my God I don't do that do you get your

Haley Hermsdo you get it you suck on toes the golden showers I'm good do you receive though yes I will receive I do not girl does it to you and doesn't get so you

Haley Hermsjust finger okay DJ call no no no no no hands hands the peen and throw I'll throw in the toy it okay I'm I'll give you the

Brian Atlastoy at least you the to some some guys are like oh I you know it makes my job easier makes my job easier why not but if if I can get her off with just my hands okay but what's the reason you

Brian Atlasjust can't like get there grosses you out like what to your boundaries consent thank thank you thank you for recognizing my my boundaries

Brian AtlasI I just it's not my thing you know just not my thing have you tried it at least I the last time I went down on a girl was the bush ad

Brian AtlasAdministration like literally or no literally 2008 2008 sorry Andrew I know this is Haram um coochies have changed since then you got to try it

TTS/Donationsagain yeah they've become they added more flavor that's kind of they have more Styles yeah from other men they $2 M3 bricks Plaza don't skip but women

TTS/Donationswould literally not survive without men in upcoming World War III women if we were on the 100th date and I asked what is your view on the Middle East what is

Haley Hermsyour answer well I just found out I'm recently Middle Eastern so that was fun so I don't know I'm learning about it what part of the Middle East Saudi Arabia you're Saudi Arabian yes I just

Brian Atlasshe's white Saudi Arabian is that crazy and Egyptian from Africa oh did you take like 23 in me or something and like 2%

Brian Atlasokay uh so Myra mea sorry going back to your thing uh I I do think you're there's truth to some truth to what you're saying a lot of men probably are selfish in that regard I will say though

Brian Atlasthat the female orgasm response is much more varied than the male orgasm response and it's also typically uh a little bit well there are some women who are insanely orgasmic to the point where

Brian Atlaswithin 10 seconds they'll come they can have multiples they can squirt and they can like boom after the other right but there are also women who it's like bro you can be trying for like 10 20 minutes

Brian Atlasthere are women who can't even make themselves come or have extreme difficulty So speaking in your case um are you able to make yourself climax um let me answer the other two

Merapoints that you made first of all I don't think it's even so much of selfishness when it comes to man I think they just don't know where the CP is exactly they're not educated enough and there's this taboo a lot of couples don't even talk

Meraabout sex you know they just I talked about sex you would be surprised like they feel ashamed or like men have this pressure to perform and make a woman come so at times just pretends grid One

TTS/DonationsMotorsports donated $200 Brian just doesn't do that he doesn't want to die from a bad clam me men not dating for relationships are far

Meraless concerned with a woman's needs so maybe change your dating strategy actually it was the man that I was dating that the sex was so bad with and

Merathen afterwards when I started not so much looking for relationship but really valuing how the person treats me first and most important like seeing how much they're attracted to me cuz that's when

Merathey try to put the effort in as opposed to when you're in a relationship a lot of men just take it for granted you were you were you were in an 8-year relationship did your eight-year

Merarelationship have difficulty in that department it was terrible and you stayed with him for unfortunately because the way I was raised like it was

Meravery conservative I thought I have have to work for it I have to suffer but still stick to the man do do you think communication is important in a relationship very much so why did you

Meranot communicate that you had a desire did multiple times he actually had addiction to porn Weed and Alcohol so he would choose to stay up late at night

Meradoing indulge in all of this instead of having sex with me and me as like a still a teenager back then I was like 16 17 I did a big number of my self-esteem and the reason why I'm focusing on of

Andrew Wilsonmyself now more so as opposed to giv to other men well I mean maybe one of the big factors there was that you started having sex when you're 16 17 so a woman

Yamanihas to get push out a baby and get married by 24 but can't stop start having sex into I'm what whatever time you want to get down is okay but you guys are giving women a what what is

Yamanithat like a fouryear window to find out how to have sex find out what they like find a husband and have biologically that's the clock that you said she's having sex too early at

Yamani16 but 17 but also earlier you said that our biological clock starts ticking and it's almost over at both are true at the same time isn't that crazy I'm just it's

Meranot crazy both are true both are true at the same time let's not get let's let's trouble don't have much time we got to hurry up girl hour adding to your point oh yeah we got to hurry up see there's so much

Andrew Wilsonpressure from society let's let's troubleshoot this this okay well it's not just it's not from society it's from biology it's not pressure from that is changing too we aging way slower now

Brian Atlasyou're talking about your fertility years are the same you're you're talking about the orgasm Gap are you talking about the orgasm Gap like the orgasm Gap disparity men get

Brian Atlashave more come more than women yes it's there's there's diff yo bone man thank you for the gift to 20 memberships um what I would say to you is that one I

Brian Atlasthink the responsibility here falls on both men and women I think men are not mind readers so you got to you got to have conversations about it now I think as men we need like me personally like

Brian Atlasif I'm getting intimate with a new woman I'm going to you know I'll try some things out but I might say well do you like more pressure less pressure left

Brian Atlasright up down you know I'm going try to sus it out uh um fast slow but you know a majority of men aren't like that right well I I don't know why they aren't

Brian Atlashonestly because like it's I think it's hot when my girl comes like especially during sex if she's coming during sex and you feel the the contractions and

Brian Atlasthat's makes the sex better for me makes it even if I'm totally selfish I think the sex is better if the girl's coming but I obviously I want to give my partner pleasure too but even if I was totally selfish I think sex is better if

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