HEATED Debate With Man Hating Feminist?! IG Model KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #122

Date: 2023-11-29

Duration: 6h 34m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

FFarah Khalidi >

AAndrew Wilson >

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)

SPEAKER_06Yamani/Lena(guest)

SPEAKER_07Fara Khalji(guest)

SPEAKER_08Mera(guest)

SPEAKER_09Yamani(guest)

SPEAKER_10Kiki(host)

SPEAKER_11Macy(guest)

SPEAKER_12Haley Herms(guest)

Key Moments

QuoteMacy recounts father placing gun in her hand at his own head at age 17

“he tried to have me murder him and like my best friend we like almost all died... he put a gun in my hand to have me try to kill him and was like holding my hand with the gun in his head”

Key MomentFara states she would let humanity go extinct rather than restrict LGBT rights

“I stated that I'm prioritizing autonomy over a utilitarian conception of prolonging the human race”

QuoteFara reveals 2020 suicide attempt during philosophical debate about autonomy

“my last suicide attempt was in 2020 let's not get into that”

ControversyMera calls Andrew's population replacement argument 'Hitler-like'

“you trying to replace the society that sounds like some Hitler that that's crazy”

ControversyBrian repeatedly insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies emphatically multiple times

“I don't know how many times I have to say this to you Brian you have... I already told you it's not true but you keep making me”

ControversyHaley claims you can't be racist against white people; Brian calls this statement itself racist

“I just don't think you can be racist against white people”

QuoteHaley reveals former sugar baby history and using OnlyFans earnings for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral

“I used the money to pay for my Catholic grandmother's funeral”

OtherBrian kicks Mera off the show near the end (~6h31m) for persistent disruptive behavior

“bro get the [expletive] off the show leave just get up leave get up leave this is she's been one of the most disruptive guests we've ever had”

Topics Discussed

Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, location. Then relationship status round. Mera (refuses to reveal age, ~33, Sherman Oaks, Twitch streamer, 4-year single 'boy phase'). Haley Herms (28, LA, plus-size model). Fara Khalji (24, Miami, content creator). Yamani (27, LA, bottle service/clothing). Lena (25, Delaware, OnlyFans). Macy (27, Mobile AL, insurance adjuster, married). Andrew Wilson (debate host, mechanical engineer, married 10+ years). Kiki (co-host).

Boy stage, terminology, and promiscuity norms

Discussion of the term 'boy phase' vs 'slut' for women. Whether men wife up promiscuous women. Debate on societal double standards for body count between men and women.

Kiki's relationship status and consent contract

Kiki describes 'complicated' status: met someone before China trip, gave him a written contract of negotiables/non-negotiables. He is still reviewing while she was away. Discussion of relationship contracts.

Mera's 100 dates in 2 months

Brian probes Mera about going on 100 dates in 2 months without finding anyone. Mera describes looking for connection and authentic experience. Discussion of age, fertility, egg freezing, and what she is actually looking for.

Guns and second amendment discussion

Panel asked if a man owning a gun is positive/neutral/negative. Andrew endorses gun ownership enthusiastically. Macy shares traumatic story of father holding gun to own head with her hand on it at age 17.

Yamani: men paying for her time off from bottle service

Yamani says men frequently offer to pay her bottle service wages (~$500+) to skip work and go on dates. Discussion of implications and transactional dating.

Feminist debate: promiscuity, population replacement, and autonomy

Andrew and Mera debate: does promiscuity harm society? Population replacement argument. Mera calls Andrew's replacement language 'Hitler-like' (misunderstanding). Extended hypothetical: would you let humanity go extinct to preserve autonomy/LGBT rights? Andrew says he would restrict certain behaviors to prevent extinction. Fara says she prioritizes autonomy over prolonging the human species.

Monogamy, nuclear family, and societal outcomes

Andrew argues monogamy and nuclear family optimal for children and society. Mera and Fara push back on imposing relationship structures. Discussion of women initiating 80% of divorces, stepfather risk data. Haley describes herself as socialist/feminist but Traditional Values in personal relationships.

Haley on communism and socialism

Haley describes herself as socialist with interest in communism. Discussion of whether communism works (small-scale communes vs large scale). Andrew argues communism requires compelled service. Haley defends communism as theoretical Utopia. Discussion of inflation, millennials, affordability of nuclear family.

Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Panel rates own looks. Haley: 10 in fat community, 7.5 in society. Lena: 10 (confidence 10, societal 7-8). Brian: 5 (gained weight). Andrew: 6. Mera: 10. Yamani and Fara also 10. Rating round devolves into debate about fat attraction and political messaging.

Ideal sex frequency

Each guest shares ideal sex frequency. Mera: 2-4 times per day. Haley: once or twice a day. Mera reveals she takes birth control to reduce her high sex drive.

Haley's plus-size model career and OnlyFans content

Discussion of fat attraction, Andrew vs Haley debate over whether attraction to plus-size women is genuine or fetish. Haley claims shredded men are her top DMs. Her OnlyFans revenue from weigh-in/eating videos. Used OnlyFans earnings to pay for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral.

Cosmetic procedures round

Brian asks who has had cosmetic procedures. Mera: deviated septum fix as child, lip filler yearly. Brian insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies multiple times.

Body count discussion

Body count round started. Andrew says he wouldn't be surprised if some women don't know their count. Discussion of double standards for high body count men vs women. Fara argues pair bonding applies more to women than men. Debate on whether men with high body counts are hypocritical for wanting low body count women.

Former sugar baby (Haley)

Haley reveals she had sugar daddy arrangements until age 22 (stopped after mother died). Charged $700 for date, $2500+ for time afterward. Total per visit $700-$5000. Had 2-3 sugar daddies, was intimate with 2. Dropped one after he revealed racist beliefs.

Mera kicked off show

Brian asks Mera to leave after she gets up from table and is disruptive. Cites her being obtuse, not staying seated, moving around repeatedly throughout show. Andrew notes timing was comedic (2 min before show end).

Transcript

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Yamanime the you just said they have a monopoly unfor I'm and I don't disagree I think men are protectors and they like if I have a husband he's probably bigger than me if someone comes to try to fight me I'm not going to be like oh hold on I

Andrew Wilsongot this I'm going to expect my man to handle it but that's not my question my question is can women be police officers yes can they be in the military yes okay can they be prison guards yes but so

Haley Hermsthey ever have less opportunity yes to be in the enforcement arm because there's people in the enfor in that that employ them that hold up that called a

Andrew Wilsonpolice what happens instead is this because they only men in inside of the military and inside the police force and inside all all these different enforcement arms when you include women you lower the standard you lower the

Andrew Wilsonstandard in order to bring women in meaning the female standards in the military physically yes physically so you need nurses in the military you need you need women they not helping us your

Yamanibut they are there you don't need a nurse in the you don't need female nurses you could have male nurses oh no no I'm just going on like more of the traditional values of like yeah what I'm I'm just talking about an equalization

Andrew Wilsonof force men have an overwhelming amount of power and force and so women can't actually enforce their rights against men whereas men can change the conditions almost anytime

Haley Hermsthey want based on their will because they have the monop force you don't think that's because that's how it's been set up in time and history if it wasn't for men Tech thank you for the gifted 100 Subs no it's not the the

Yamanireason that it's that way is because men are overwhelmingly physically stronger than women who were women's rights protecting us from though I'm like General were they protecting women from other women or women from as you said

Andrew Wilsonthe people who hold the Monopoly on Brute Force well they're not really protecting anybody from anything cuz they're they're an illusion it's a luery if you were to answer my question the reason that women felt so strongly they

Andrew Wilsondidn't feel strongly the suffer for jets were a small small portion most most women did not want the right when I can't even get into this but most women did not want most of these rights okay I

Andrew Wilsoncan't get into it for to reasons but most of them didn't even want them what ended up happening instead was that it was a small Collective of very weak men who really push through with a lot of money to push feminists and these feminist ideals through but most women

Andrew Wilsondidn't want anything to do with it because let me if you don't mind if you'll humor me let me read these anti-ar this is from a a original anti-suffrage

Andrew Wilsonum flyer why were the weak men not even a here what it says special privileges married married women are not required to contribute to support of the family

Andrew Wilsonwomen may work earn money and spend it as she pleases May own real and personal property and dispose of it or sell it without her husband's knowledge or

Andrew Wilsonconsent the the list goes on and on and on wife may have millions and cut her husband off without a scent these do not sound like women were

Andrew Wilsontreated poorly or that they weren't treated as equals they were treated as different because they are different agreed and so what happened instead was

Andrew Wilsonthat men had the overwhelming burden of responsibility and they were forced by Society the enforcement arm which is other men to do their Duty and women

Andrew Wilsonwere not forced to do that and when we see the societal role being reversed where women are forced instead to take on roles that require Duty they don't want it they completely reject it like

Andrew Wilsonshe said it's basically just all me me me and that's why the roles are so messed up that's why everything is so reversed that's why everything is the opposite of what it's supposed to be I'm

Brian Atlasjust curious then why do you still feel like I'm a feminist I'm just curious okay let's let's maybe just move on let's move on let's Mo um but maybe we can come back to it I had one quick

Brian Atlasquestion for you um you say you don't want to date men who play video games I don't I don't object to that preference would you object to for example a man not wanting to date a woman who does

Haley Hermsonly fans no okay I I think that's fair it's not for everybody um the video games I think I would just like I'd be open to it but I would like really need to see that like you're in control and

Brian Atlasit's not like an addiction that like comes before your family sure um and and bringing it back to I think the original question so we're going around the table

TTS/Donationsasking if everybody was a feminist I think what I was trying to get that modim donated $200 Andrew w why are we pretending men

TTS/Donationsand women are the same and letting men who identify as women to literally take over women's sports it is literally Looney Tune land do you live in Looney Tune uh yo Modis thank you man appreciate it my

Brian Atlasquestion for you guys is cuz some of you guys said well I'm a feminist I think it was primarily you and then you Fara but you also enjoy those more traditional elements my qu and when you say the traditional elements would you say like

Fara Khaljithe guy being chivalrous like paying for First Dates yeah I think I should pay for first dates and take on a line share of the bills line share of the bills even if the girl doesn't meet submissive feminine qualities even if the girl

Brian Atlasdoesn't meet submissive feminine qualties I he doesn't have to it's his prerogative but I think it's still congruent with feminism well that's my question how do you reconcile being

Brian Atlasfeminists which I suppose a typical feminist belief is gender equality doing away with gender roles how do you reconcile being feminist but also demanding men adhere to their more

Fara Khaljitraditional gender rules such as paying for first States chivalry etc etc how do you reconcile that because feminism is about social spheres to me so even if women were to occupy 50% of Congress 50%

Fara Khaljiof leadership roles were to you know 50% CEOs of Fortune 500 companies that doesn't you know affect the fact that if you and I were dating and we were hooking up I'm the one who has to take birth control so that you can nut in me if we were to have a kid

Fara KhaljiI'm the one who has to Bear the child I'm no I'm not but um or you know when we have a child I'm the one who's going to have my torn open to Bear your child you know I'm the one who has to breastfeed so at the end of

Fara Khaljiday you can only go 50/50 so far and this idea of going 50/50 in terms of bills is actually just more of a burden on the woman cuz you can never go 50/50 in terms of actual reproductive but that assumes that the first person you ever

Fara Khaljidate that ends up becoming your husband and the person you have children with necessarily even if you're even if you're just hooking up I mean birth control increases your chance of breast cancer by 20% it up your hormones I'm just like altering my body but so if I'm I'm dating a woman who's not on

Brian Atlasbirth control and she doesn't want to have children under those circumstances would you be okay with the woman like a 50/50 dynamic or even then you you'd object to it it's not that I would object I would just say generally given

Fara Khaljithe dynamics of dating and the idea that usually people are having sex and that women are taking birth control so that the man can have increased sexual pleasure not on birth control okay we just give in the idea of like a goal of a relationship which is typically that

Fara Khaljiyou're dating to have kids or you're dating to marry to then have kids so I'm seeing it more in like a macro sense I think the idea of 50/50 is ridiculous well she just went on 100 if you're just doing hookup culture and whatever she's

Brian Atlasdoing then I don't think I I think object I think 50/50 seems more fair yeah what about you I mean you just on 100 first dates in the past two month two months um do you want a guy to pay

Merafor the first date I don't want them but I think this is a great indication of where they are in life so if somebody doesn't well earlier in the coners

Meraearlier in the conversation you you said you want a guy who uh matches you or exceeds you ex so if they feel like they cannot for whatever I'm just assuming that it's their materialistic situation

Merathat doesn't allow them to pay for the date it probably not somebody I should be seen cuz um it's going to cause tension later on okay um that's completely optional

Brian Atlaslike if they want to split I'll split it would there be a second date you you might SP it depend on how much I like them because it's not all about the money it it would be a negative if a guy

Brian Atlasdidn't wanted to split the bill yes okay okay do you want to take it over well what about this commun okay I'm not we don't have to get back into that but um but that's where my like

Haley HermsTraditional Values come I don't think it's like against anybody like it's 50 but like for my goals of like I want a big family like and that's again where what are you dating for you need to like find out your purpose so if like I was

Haley Hermsdating right now to like have like a family like of course I'm not going to date like the guy who works at Subway cuz he probably doesn't make enough money to provide for four kids let let me ask you to a question um so you said

Brian AtlasSociety you want equality but when it comes to romantic relationships you want tradition um would you it's not that I want tradition I think that the biological imperative of men and women

Fara Khaljiis going to be there even if women are CEOs and are taking on a more masculine rolee that I agree with that um would you take your husband's last name if it was a nice last name yeah

Haley Hermsyeah what about you would you take your husband's last name oh yeah yeah yeah I mean if I was super like Kim K famous then I'd probably do a hyphenated like

Brian AtlasKardashian situation but so you're saying you you demand tradition romantically but romantic tradition would dictate

Brian Atlasthat in a marriage you would take your husband's last name and your children would also have your husband's last name regardless of how egregiously bad his last name was or wasn't yeah I mean the

Brian Atlaskids can take his name or take it too that's tradition romantic that's not that's tradition romantically I Trad I didn't sayar relationship to be

Andrew Wilsonentirely traditional I said in terms of the bills I have more traditional born what name does he get does a kid get I guess it's up to the couple at hand if they want to hyphenate it if in your

Fara Khaljitraditional worldview when it comes to dating anyways yeah your feminist traditional worldview for me personally I want to keep my name for my own branding for like the average couple I think you

SPEAKER_02could hyphenate I if you had a kid that's not traditional though yeah so and if you had a kid Traditional Values and my point was you only want the traditional values that benefit you it's not about benefiting it's about evening

Fara Khaljiout the fact that my reproductive role is not 50/50 so why would we go 50/50 on bills well what what about the fact that we can't go 5050 on that caregiving aspect but if you are in the caregiving

Andrew Wilsonaspect and you're staying at home you're taking care of the kid your obligation to that is only 18 years so if he's working right he's he's working to support you the entire time after that

Andrew Wilsonobligation is done he's still working and you're not working so you get so in in some ways you get a shortcut to retirement example wow yo AB Che thank you so much

Andrew Wilsonman for the gifted 50 memberships in example yeah example me and my wife okay uh the youngest one that I have now left at home 12 years old M okay that's not

Andrew Wilsongoing to or 11 sorry 11 years old it's not that long okay that's only what um you know a few short years before she may launch out of the pad well now my wife she's pretty young she's still

Andrew Wilsonpretty young and she'll still be fairly young even when that happens but I'll still be taking care of and paying all the bills she won't have to do any of that right so yes she took care of her obligation on the front end but on the

Andrew Wilsonback end the man's still working the entire time so I don't see I don't see where this idea of fairness comes from from you when you say well it's because I have to give birth and then stay at home it's like well thank you Hond

Andrew Wilsonthat's the easier job one and then two you're paid for even after even after that the child's no longer uh needs 24-hour assistance and remember the time

Fara Khaljiframe when that happens it's only the first 2 3 years when they really need round thee clock assistance yeah I'm I'm not correlating it to Round the Clock assistance and also yeah most couples have more than one child and so it's not

Andrew Wilsonjust the first 18 years it could be up to 30 years in theory yeah even if it could if it's 30 years yeah obviously they could to their actual familial duties and their plans but but really even when you look at the cycle let's

Andrew Wilsonsay you had five six kids something like that most people won't they'll have two or three right but let's just assume it for the sake of assuming it they usually spaced out by two or three years okay so they don't need round the-clock assistance after the first couple of

Andrew Wilsonyears they don't need that anymore and then the older they get when they get to um you know 12 13 14 15 16 basically every single year that goes the less that you really have to focus

Andrew Wilsonon taking care of them other than like basic meals things like this they can basically take care of themselves they brush their own teth their own hair everything most mothers don't just you you're they don't like they're 18 and

Andrew Wilsonthey just fly away well I'm not saying that they are but even then when they're not flying away and they're 18 it's the man who's covering their bills then too so then if a question for you far I just had a different upbringing so it's like

Andrew WilsonI'm man covering their bills but even if the kid stays now the man still taking care of that and the mom doesn't have to take care of it at all not not at all doesn't have to work doesn't have to do anything and the caregiving portion of

Andrew Wilsonit that's gone and the man's still working taking care of him even if the kid doesn't leave but is the wife not taking care of you anymore either like like you know cooking but but if you're talking about what's equal right isn't

Andrew Wilsonthe wife supposed to be doing that no no I I right so if she's supposed to be doing that as already is a baseline you can't throw that in and say well it makes it more equal that's just her job no I I didn't say it made it more equal I was just asking if in your situation

Andrew Wilsonyou're still expecting after all these things oh yeah no I expect breakfast made I expect lunch made I expect dinner I expect all that yeah that's not emot that's not a task like no it's it's a

TTS/Donationstask but it seems Des you deserve to be comp seem very $200 I'm just catching up major air elf

TTS/Donationsfrom Modest siker that 304 looks like H Jasmine on crack that's simp sh she won't you also can the panel pronounce

Brian AtlasMiss cognus stick # I want smoke what word are they um misogynistic yeah we had a girl in the previous show totally butcher the pronunciation of that word

Andrew WilsonThank You LP appreciate it man so anyway you have when you just kind of like dive back in maybe to wrap this up or whatever but yeah when when you're talking about her tasks and duties no I don't think her tasks and Duties are

Andrew Wilsondraining I think that she was able in fact to have so much additional time based based on my labor that she was able to write a bestselling book which is a bestselling book right now that you

Andrew Wilsoncan buy and you know who gets all of the royalties of that book me every bit of it oh every bit she doesn't and if if

Andrew Wilsonshe gets any of it it's due to my largest why because it took care of her for the entirety of her life and took good care of my children for the

Andrew Wilsonentirety of their life and we still continue to do after you die of course assuming I'm the one who goes first right but you don't know how that'll go but we we're still looking at we're still pretty young right ultimately I

Brian Atlasjust don't like when it comes to the whole tradition thing I I just don't understand because like an 18-year-old woman she's is she immediately going to have

Brian Atlaschildren what if that relationship doesn't pan out so that's that's all the value is front-loaded on the man because not every relationship is going to culminate in having children yeah so it's aligned with the way I date so for

Fara Khaljiinstance I'm not currently dating I'm not on dating apps next time I date I'm dating to Mary so that's more you're out liar I guess in that regard sure yeah that's why I also mention the fact that I have more Traditional Values perhaps with dating goals I'm not dating for

Brian Atlasexperience you have Traditional Values but you you you claim to have Traditional Values but you wouldn't take your husband's last name which is a

Brian Atlastraditional value you do only fans which is not traditional MH because I I my view is part of tra traditionality is

Fara KhaljiModesty sure I don't think I need to subscribe to the entire you know package Shield of traditionalism but that doesn't mean I'm picking what I think it's what I think is most fulfilling and what I think is most conducive to success so for me I value the idea of

Fara Khaljigetting married that's why I'm waiting till marriage I value dating to get married so I'm saying I don't see wait you're waiting until marriage for what to to have sex yeah you're waiting

Andrew Wilsontill marriage yeah why should that blow your mind because that's a traditional value I think she said something differently on a previous show I think yeah that's

Andrew Wilsonthat's like the most if if if if far was saving gold bars it'd be less valuable than that in this day and age so no nothing but props from

Brian Atlasme but but you you pre previously answered that question differently I look I guess my whole big thing is you got women who want equality so Society wait she saying that question

TTS/Donationsdifferently before modest heima donated $200 girl to look at your health lol yikes girl 3 you need to remember you have ears sorry for assuming but your

Merakids will be better off with a man in the home mirror HMU Andrew Tai word I do agree that has to be a

Merafather figure but it does not have to be a biological father wouldn't it be better though if it was it would be if the overall relationship was healthy

Brian Atlasand it did not affect psychological state of the parents because that would be reflected on the child going to you um so the guy should pay for the first bill what about would you take I think I already asked you excuse me if I did

Brian Atlaswould you take no no no would you take your uh husband's last name yeah okay all right I guess one of my issues with this whole like your position is that you claim to believe in Tradition but it

Fara Khaljiit's rather traditional to take your husband's last name and I told you that's why it's not cherry-picking I'm saying I'm like looking at each traditional value and saying what's most what do I consider the most to a healthy relationship I don't know why taking his

Fara Khaljilast name is going to lead to a healthy relationship I think waiting to have sex to get married is going to lead to a healthy I don't think the husband paying for First Dates when you first meet them is going to lead to a healthier relationship necessarily either right

Andrew Wilsonbut her argument for that is but on the front on the front end the woman Bears more of a brunt but that's not true so that's my problem is like that's not true what you stated of the reason that

Andrew WilsonI believe that men should be paying for more for me and it shouldn't be 50/50 is because on the front end I think we have a bigger you know like a larger cross to bear than they do but that's not that's

Fara Khaljinot true it's not correct not larger cross I wasn't downplaying what men have to do I was more so saying that like I think this idea of going 50/50 in bills isn't actually a true 50/50 cuz my point

Andrew Wilsonis we can never really go truly 50/50 in terms of child rearing and child yeah but what I'm saying is that it should be 60/40 with the woman on the 60 side right so if you're really if your value was fairness anyway that's what I'm

Andrew Wilsonsaying if your value is fairness and your argument is this isn't fair right I would make the same argument back but just say well if that's the case then you as the woman should probably be

Fara Khaljipaying 60% and the man 40% and having the kids here I got if it was about fairness it wasn't necessarily about fairness I was more so talking about biological imperative and I was saying it doesn't matter how much feminism we

Fara Khaljisustain in society you can't out feminist the fact that I have a p and you have a dick and when we have a kid I'm the one who's going to be facing that brunt I'm the one who's going to have my body up I'm the one who's going to have suicidal ideation because

Andrew WilsonI may be having postpartum depression I'm just saying like 50/50 in my opinion is a fraud also like women wait a second but but I I kind of already responded to that right and said no that's not really

Andrew Wilsontrue you have less of a burden to bear overtime from the beginning uh if I take 25 years out of the workforce to raise six of your kids I have less of a burden yeah how do you not so I should be going

Andrew Wilsonhow do you not have less of a burden wa I'm confused so I should be paying 50 manual labor what if oh that's manual labor what if your job is just that's manual labor I didn't think that was man I think that any job you can do in your

Fara Khaljipajamas can't be that hard no my point was you were saying she just has to care for the kid for 18 years and then after that now she has a free re poping the DVD yeah you just pop in the DVD for

Andrew Wilsontruly if you came home and your wife was in her pajamas every day would that not like turn you off or make you feel a certain type of way I don't think that listen I don't think here's what most men want as the outcome for their

Andrew Wilsonchildren who for the most part by the way are sent off to public school and she's not watching them do nothing okay they're sent off for eight hours a day to an institution very far away from her

Andrew Wilsonand that's most kids uh who are raised by women in current Society that's one two even if she stays at home and she raises him and on top of rais them homeschools them right and she does that

Andrew Wilsonin her pajamas then that's still the least lazy thing she could be doing in comparison to sending them off to public school so yeah I think when you're talking about the labor added and what they have to do to raise kids they

Andrew Wilsonmostly Outsource that anyway why is there such this like Outsourcing takes time too oh yeah they they have to wave at the school bus it's a rough gig they have to get their ass 6 a.m. to get them

Haley Hermson a school bus do you ever think about how much it would cost you to pay a nanny to pay pay a house cleaner to pay a private Chef to pay like all these individual let's reverse it well let's just reverse it then okay but what about

Andrew Wilsonhow much it would cost for you to be able to stay at home all day and do absolutely nothing for the most part right and have cable television have trash paid for have your electric paid

Andrew Wilsonfor have all of your utilities have vacations given to you have all of that that also it has a high cost a significant cost associated with it so as you're bitching about well well wait a second my maid service should be

Yamanicompensated it's like well your living expenses are already compensated you have to do nothing for it well it's not nothing and I don't think there's anything wrong with a get on the school

Yamanibus and go back to bed that's in a marriage I wish it s like it's like what I would hate for my husband to just literally look at me and think if I'm a stay-at-home mom that I just don't do

Yamaniall day if you go work and you have to like shovel um bricks and pick up bricks and break your back you're probably doing more laborious Tass to me but as your partner it would be so

Andrew Wilsondisrespectful to think that to tell the truth to tell the truth that to tell the sounds like your life might be lazy let's assume for a second I'm a brick layer and I go out and I do this hard

Andrew Wilsonawful horrible job and I started with no skills when I was doing it it took me six years in order to just figure out how to start laying the brick okay because that's what it takes as a Mason

Andrew Wilsonand then after that I'm Wrecking my body every single day working 12 hours a day lifting some the heaviest stuff you can imagine for 12 hours straight and I come home and you're like oh it's pretty

Yamanidisrespectful to me it's pretty disrespectful to me that you think I don't bust my ass the same way you do I'm just saying it's dis as a partner if you're if it's a true Partnership if the way you view it I think it's it seems

Yamanilike it's a little bit more of a business to you so but if you're in more of a partnership you have I think it would be really disrespectful if your husband came home and looked at your you

Yamanibuilding a whole home for him taking care of his kids pushing his kids and first of all you we don't even first of all we're talking about modern times talking dudes really used to build

Yamanihouses none of us know how to build a house created a house Andrew can build a house I build a house heard it from Andrew that's fire and more men need to learn how to build I don't know if I could build a there's some there might

Yamanibe some things in a house I couldn't build are you more of a cabin guy do you is it more of a cabin yeah but most people can't build a house okay you most people go buy a house but I'm just

Yamaniyou're take now I feel like you're pick parting you know what I mean by build a home I don't yeah no okay I'll try to be as charitable as I can be about this okay listen I'm just saying as if I pushed out three kids for you and you

Yamanicome home and you tell you look at me raising your kids and you think I barely have done anything that's crazy what I what if I come home and I go look it

Andrew Wilsontook you 2 hours to to pick up the house and keep it maintained okay the the washer and dryer is going but you're not really you're not manually washing the clothes anymore I mean you literally

Andrew Wilsonthrow them in a machine and then you go and you put the kids on a school bus and the kids leave in a school bus what the hell else are you doing all day they have machines that do like manual label

Yamanithat people used to have I don't know I used to be a n even as a nanny people can keep up their houses I mean there's have been technological advances we're let's let's move on to something else

Brian Atlasokay all right um you you you had here you said that you see a lot of girls are kind of on an anti-man kick right now is any girl currently on the panel on an

TTS/Donationsanti-man kick I'm trying to get over my I modest Heim donated $200 I didn't IGN ignoring my generous tips is hate speech

TTS/DonationsI am a trans wom and you ignored my messages get ready for legal action for not allowing my free speech I am allowed under zero tolerance I apologize I'm

Merasorry I will donate to glad I'm sorry okay um are you okay you look like you're she's massaging her Temple yeah I usually go to bed around 11: and the drive is like

Mera2 hours I'm just letting you guys know I will leave soon although I did enjoy this I'm falling asleep and my back

Brian Atlashurts I love her your back hurts I have I've got you got back problems where your back problems what you got here and here would you like to massage me Brian I'm if you want to massage I got real

Brian Atlasbad problems so if you you can you can massage me if you want but uh no you're good though you can you can make another like four hours right yeah I think no I'm kidding is that how you guys usually

Brian Atlasgo no no we're not going to go that long but uh any girls at the table on an anti-man kick right now anybody you kind of I was on one for like a while I just

Haley HermsI just started dating back in January so like almost a year now but like two years I was did a year of celibacy and then took a year of like no dating

Brian Atlasnothing but just sure okay all right okay cool so we have uh we got some tweets we have some tweets from some people Nick if you can pull it from you

Brian Atlaso from my tweets yeah we have some of your tweets yes I love this um white white men I especially don't need hold

TTS/Donationson we'll come Motorsports donated $200 this panel is nothing but me me me and discount all a man willingly provides you deserve your future

Yamanidivorces I feel I'm Greta please lay off the Pre-Workout before the show I love man I love men they are are equals we're yin and yang why I wish i' love them too

Haley Hermsif I basically had to do nothing they just gave me everything that I wanted if we're reading my hate man white Tweets we're going to be here for a while let's get into it we'll we'll try to move through them quick uh but

Haley Hermsthese are some of your tweets so okay white uh do you want to read them white men I especially don't need your un your opinion unsolicited

Haley Herms2019 on brand um okay why is it why specifically white men just curious um it's always just white men that just like some kind of

Haley Hermsproblem I grew up in a pre predominantly mostly like white neighborhood and it's just like one white man after the next is like always the problem always starting some always getting in a fight these are

Haley Hermslike rich neighborhoods which I think are like even worse because they have the money to try to do whatever the they want the most times I've been in danger the most like any like bad things is like always happening around white

Andrew Wilsonmen what the most times that you've been in let me ask you this have you lived in predominantly non-white areas now yes

Haley Hermsand I'm usually the only white person in most places I go to so I feel much more comfortable well just for the sake of getting through all the tweets we have a

Haley Hermston so maybe we'll okay next Nick men are pigs yes men are pigs 2014 okay loky I was like 16 there so

Haley Hermslike okay not still not wrong but little misandrist maybe don't you think just a little bit men are so gross they really are though wait what

Brian Atlasmen are men are gross don't you don't don't you think it's a little you know maybe a little sexist to say that um well before you answer that do

Kikithe girls do do the girls at the table agree with what she's saying I love man wait sorry what did you say she said men are gross men are gross and are

Haley Hermstrash fart and leave hair places yeah women never do that right like they're dirtier I guess that's true statistically yeah they had 10 wor Hy like I'm not saying like girls get away

Haley Hermsfrom me they menate and they put their hair in the drains and they etc etc etc we'll go further lengths to hide it like we could poop and then we'd run out the street like two miles down to a Starbucks at 6:00 a.m. try to come back

Andrew Wilsonbrush our teeth and pretend like we never went on that okay look I have five daughters five okay and what I'm telling you right now is that the mystery of femininity and the their grossness yeah

Haley Hermsbut all about it their dad like you're going to see that yeah there's no history to but you're not their husband we we got some more tweets we got some more tweets here so I'll just have you

Haley Hermscontinue reading them I'm crying here's your monthly update June update men are still trash

Haley Hermsfacts okay men are um okay next I guess November forecast men are still trash I do the monthly update like it's my service to the people do you agree with that I'm laughing cuz honestly a lot of

Yamanithe people in your chat are almost saying the same thing like opposite I a few of them so I just think it's funny if there's any men I'm sure they have a lot of reac okay if there if there's any men in the chat that are saying women are trash I object I'm not I wasn't

SPEAKER_02saying that you agree I just I know but I just want to point out I would object to a man in the chat or any man saying that women are trash I wouldn't object to it now whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa okay that was a joke that was a joke oh

Brian Atlaswait he's joking um okay okay next tweet joking wait men treat your women with respect and love oh my they disagree I don't object I

Brian Atlasdon't object to that really but should women treat their men with respect and love yes it's a two-way street okay next okay that's fine update men are still

Haley Hermstrash this is your opinion is very wrong not every man is sin okay all right next men okay but can we get like current ones like these are from when I

Brian Atlaswas like in high school no well okay hold on 28 you're 28 this was 2018 so you were 22 years okay two years after school 20 right well no

Brian Atlaswhat 2018 2018 2019 years okay next 20 men have the most fragile egos true

Haley Hermsthat is true do you think you're projecting a little bit um not really I don't I don't asking next I mean that's a good question

Haley Hermsbesides white men in general nothing triggers me more when a white man tells me to keep it up when I'm working out oh yeah I hate that white guys white L literally all the time I'll work out and they'll come up to me and like be like

Haley Hermsgood job keep going you got this but like they'll pass Yani or like someone else behind me or in front of me and says nothing to them well well could you think of a reason why that might be off

Andrew Wilsontop of your head because they're amazed that a fat person does exercise right so it is I mean what but think about that for a second though like what you just said that's like if you were in the 50s

Haley Hermsand like watched like a black person drink out of a white water fountain you're not going to be like it's a little different little different maybe a little different example if I change my hair because um what are you doing to

Brian Atlasthe microphone lady you're literally rubbing your SLE concealer on the tip of the micone it's I'm cuddling with do you mind ah you're so high maintenance okay

Meraum we didn't even start dating Brian what's that what we didn't even okay all right it was a joke okay let's continue with the TW I age a little bit with you um I think that

Merawhite man generally speaking have a higher chance getting away with being insensitive what that's all I have to say uh I'm not sure about her tweets but other than that I'm saying today you

Brian Atlasthink that you think that white men get away with saying insensitive things more than other people yes more than other I'm not now to I'm not sure I'm not sure about that crazy like if you look at rap

Yamanimusic like if I were to call a woman the b word yeah what that's subjective though because I use all the time I even have that debate with my

Yamanitherapist whatever also think your point use rap music to gen like I well cuz in rap music it be thrown around the word but that's

Macya predominantly black thing and we're talking about white men right now okay let's continue with the tws but the contrast is ask the question why do it matter what their race is it's not okay well we're they're asking make and he's

Brian Atlasrap yo shout out Eminem what's up they're talking because you rap pause the show pause the show let's hear something

Brian Atlasoh what do you I don't know let's go come on drop it drop it drop it drop it come on come on come on come on let's

Haley Hermshear the imagine if I did that the okay uh okay wait you got it okay let me see can't hold my breath can't hold my tongue think I'm naive or really that

Haley Hermsdumb life in the Trap already so rough you're lucky I'm flossing and don't have my gun it's on and it's popping get ready to run one time before already too much I cut the cords and I'm calling your bluff I was so lucky lucky for

Brian Atlaswhat that was dope that was the yeah mic tip boom that was the son okay um next

Brian Atlastweet e you're so disgusting ashmen 2015 oo that was a tough year little mandress don't you think okay what sorry what does mandress mean it's

Haley Hermsthe opposite of misogyny the hatred contempts okay of men God cursed me with a middleaged and African men hitting on me oh okay okay that's like 2010 that's

Haley Hermslike a long time ago that's eighth grade no I love African men didn't sound like I like them that much then um well that's also when I was growing up like seventh grade Republican

Andrew Wilsonso do you want to go ahead men are disgusting pigs I'm sick to my stomach I like how you emphasize these like these are how they sounded in my

Haley Hermshead exactly I will grant you that was in 2011 do you still feel that way uh not so much now I mean that realistically I was 14 during that time

Haley Hermswell you no you said you're 28 so 2011 that 2010 well that most Reon one I think was 2011 wait okay so that's a year after 8th grade years ago 15 yeah

Haley Hermsmy M I grew up in a very conservative like racist ass like neighborhood area I yeah I grew up in Orange County some OC

Haley Hermsand uh so I used to be like a whole different person and Shout out I you know you want I can see those tweets I get it see tweets see the more more tweets the real world makes me hate men

Haley Hermseven more are you talking about the show the show okay yeah but it makes you the show made makes you hate yeah but now I know more about reality TV and I even more than you reality TV already did

Haley Hermsokay next yes today I wish I little had a little shirt that said I hate men that'd be so cute 2017 crop top 2017 is it hilarious yes would you if I

Yamanihad a shirt that said I hate women would that be hilarious that' be lowy IC I'm laughing because I've just known her for so long and I just think it's funny that she she's is it funny I think it's sad I'm laughing so it is well there's no

Fara Khaljihomicidal mandress like if you wore a shirt this said IIT women you'd be akin to like people like Christopher Harper Mercer Elliot Rogers insults who have actually left those kind of posts on Facebook and then killed like a dozen women I think you have something for this Andrew no I'm just saying that a

Andrew Wilsonwoman has never said I hate men and then gone and killed 12 men no they do they just do it in their nursing role roles see what they do is they do it over time in nursing roles and in roles where they're supposed to be taking care of children things like this that's when

Andrew Wilsonwomen kill wait can you elaborate yeah so for instance women who are in roles where they're taking care of children okay whatever that role is far more

Andrew Wilsonlikely far more likely in those roles right to hurt those hurt those children over time about the homicide male children be a specific

Andrew Wilsonwell they kill the what I'm saying is that women women kill they just kill differently so when you're like you the hatred towards women is an indicator that the men are going to hurt women

Andrew Wilsonit's like well but it's an indicator both ways it's just that because women killed differently and much more sadistically in my opinion it's even more sadistic um that's not to say that they don't if they have a problem

Andrew Wilsontowards men kill them because they clearly do they just do it in capacity of caregiver nurse they disproportionately harm male children well if they hate men yes also

Fara Khaljialso there's a statistic that women are disproportionately hurting male children and well let me give you an easy example of them disproportionately hurting male children a lot of female teachers do they think they have sex with more male

Fara Khaljichildren or female children and you think those are the type of women who are wearing a shirt that maybe says I hate men like and they test positive for M that's not what your question was it was related to him any type of indication no no you're

Andrew Wilsonchanging the go post your question specifically here your question to me specifically was are you saying that women harm male children more because

Fara Khaljithat was in response to the idea that man wear a shirt wom it's usually correlated to being an insult Community which does is a you knowon of so are you

Fara Khaljifine with the shirt I I was fine with it I'm just saying you're trying to make it you drew an analogy and said it was a pure parallel to say having a shirt that says I hate women and I'm saying it's not it is

Fara Khaljiit's what like be like be real with me what no no no no what would be the pure parallel there is no pure parallel because as much as she tweets men are gross she's never going to be so incentivized that she goes and kills

Fara Khalji12 know that even if she's curved by 12 Boys in one year she's never going to go kill that just doesn't happen how do you know okay hold on where are the story where are the statistics careg yes caregiver positions they do kill I don't

Andrew Wilsonknow where you come up and then show a tweet of those caregivers saying I hate men drawing a correlation between disproportionately harming men are you serious there's whole books who that are devoted on this topic about how female

Andrew Wilsonserial killers are often they're mad at men because they were abused or because of Any number of different problems they have with men specifically it's a huge

Andrew WilsonRal so let me get so here I'll give you an example of this let's say that I I I had a nurse I was like um in a hospital laid up or something and I went on this nurse's Twitter and it had all the tweets that were like this think that

Andrew Wilsonwouldn't be a red flag for me to be like maybe don't come in my room and play with my IV maybe don't come in here and change my drip okay I'll give you that that's like a fair thing but also I do I want I want you guys to be really real

Haley Hermswith me right now okay those tweets majority of them let's be real 2010 2018 I'm still living at home I have a father who punches me in the face strangles me throws furniture at me beats me up

Haley Hermsagainst an oven does all sorts of things killed me almost three times like all these things you don't think I'm not saying those are right but you don't think me tweeting at 14 being like I

Haley Hermshate men is like the worst thing like it's like a diary though those were chronics between 14 and 20 years old when I still you have much more recent posts where you say men are trash men are gross men suck those are much more

Andrew Wilsonre but not only that he asked you this right so this is fine to give that qualifier I also said I was coming out of my man hating face it's fine for you to have that qualifier and I'll say okay sure that's a fair qualifier except he

Macyasked you literally Lally five six minutes ago hey uh do you still feel this way and you were like kind of yeah kind of so it's like jumping up and down for him to read so it doesn't really

Brian Atlasmatter when they were written if you I think they're hilarious you but you think it's funny to say that men are trash men are gross I would actually argue I mean because you were saying well what's the what's the impact it's

Brian Atlasit's pretty shocking to me that for example if a if a man were to say those same things you just replace uh man with women that would you would get in major trouble you'd get cancelled but here she

Brian Atlasis she's a super model well her own words she's you're booking gigs you've got all these like booked and bus that's cancelable that would be a cancelable offense if you were a man to say I hate

Yamaniwomen also backed by like how you said men are the almost sheer enforcers of power they're stronger than us so if a going back to what you said men are always stronger than women they're

Yamanialways the bigger ones they can enforce everything so if we use those parallels and a man is tweeting that you you can look at it from the lens that he can actually enforce I hate women he can

Yamaniactually go overpower women versus from you and what you said about the power dynamics first of all what the most I

Yamanididn't say that every man goes and beats and hurts women but if you think that we you think that there's no violence against women just for having a vagina and there's a violence is violence I'm

Yamaninot saying is and I'm just saying there's violence against femininity and I'm just hold on if you switch the tweets statistics would show that if a man's expressing those things it might be a little bit come out a little bit

Brian Atlasmore violent and a little bit more dangerous than a woman this is just let me ask okay let me ask you also being part of the LGBT community kind of let's let's not get into the weeds here um do

Brian Atlasyou guys do you guys know who Andy Warhol is yes okay what happened to and

Haley Hermswarh Hal like in terms of what death life he was murdered Yeah by a woman who was a

Brian Atlasraging anti-male feminist she wrote a book called the scum Manifesto her name was Valerie salonis so this idea that women are not one capable of violence or

Brian Atlasthat they don't inflict violence who said that just thisand Manifesto tweets between but but but far was making the point

Haley HermsFara was making the point that that mandry does not lead to violence when actually it I think what she was trying to say correct me if I'm wrong it's less likely

Andrew Wilsonyeah but let's just assume let's assume for a second that so none of that's true but let's just assume it is let's just say that it was only less likely by 10% right that's a big chunk of people yeah but who cares that's still a massive it

Andrew Wilsonwould still be a massive problem and a massive massive red flag for you to say yes women do it too they act out with Miss they just do it 10% less than men so what wouldn't it still be a massive red flag that we should watch out for

Haley Hermsand still still still look at it the same way we would at men I'm being very honest a lot of men usually like that I say that stuff because what yeah um the

Haley Hermsreason being is they think it deters other men so they're like oh the woman who hates men chose me she must love me they think she won't cheat cuz she's a

Haley Hermssand is what saying and so most guys that I love when I say that they're like oh my yeah like you're only with me I'm special I know it sounds crazy

Fara Khaljibut that I mean that checks out but also I want to point out a difference doesn't check out but when she's tweeting I hate men she's saying it because it's Chic and like she pointed out she was participating in hookup culture because of cardi B it's not because I don't think she actually has if you were to

Fara Khaljiput her on a like lie detector test I don't think she actually has hatred towards men I don't think she actually I don't she gets off violence towards men I think a lot of men though who do have those shirts I think they do feel rejected from women I think they feel

Fara Khaljiostracized in society and I think they do do have uniquely bad feelings towards women I I 100% would bet my life that she does not and girls who tweet things like that are just trying to be fashionable the only person I ever wanted to like hurt was my father why

Haley Hermsare you making these assumptions it's a panel but I mean she's pretty like on the spot with that no but you can't walk back that's why I mentioned Gay Culture because in gay culture being for the girls gays and days that like what she's

Haley Hermssaying even like it's a statement it's a TR and that no offense but I wouldn't say it but it's not at all parallel to M how at some point

Yamanidegrading and making jokes about your wife or whatever was almost as fashionable saying I hate men like back in the days men would sit around the breeding for the violence

Brian Atlasspeaking okay but to address your point that it's Chic or cool or quirky to hate men how emblematic is it of a just

Brian Atlasfailure of society that men are not given respect and that it's it's a joke to hate men that it's acceptable to hate men that would be bigger evidence of

Brian Atlasmale disc because if you say I hate women the forces of feminism will descend upon you and you're going to get canceled you'll get kicked out of school you're going to lose opportunities but

Fara Khaljinobody bats an eye if a woman has Miss says things that are mandric or hat towards Men first of all that's not true I think you should take a look at the streaming Community kick is just drenched in misogyny and people making

Fara Khaljilike anti-women jokes they're no it's not no my point was he the history of violence against

Andrew Wilsonwomen platformed according to you guys your argument is this is just quirky right just you're this just quirky we're just's truth we're fun we're funning

Fara Khaljiright okay AR I think it's fine for for those kick boys to say that because I think they're just fun I think they're being stupid I'm I'm I don't think it's but what let me ask you a question let's

Fara Khaljiassume what she's saying is not a joke is it still funny it's half true if women were to mean it it's one thing I don't think she means it cuz these women are still down bad for male attention I think the guys who do say I hate women I

Haley Hermsthink they genuinely feel it because they feel rejected and ostracized by women okay let's put it this way like a girl will be like oh that guy blew me off or he like slept with myed friend

Haley Hermsand then you're like oh I hate men and then like a girl will literally not give you her number and he'll murder you and follow you home when percentage

Brian Atlaswhat percentage five times and it's all from rejection first off that's terrible that

Brian Atlasthat happened however you the example that you gave was that women are just on mass wholesale getting murdered for rejecting men that's very rare it does

TTS/Donationshappen it does happen but that's an extremely exceptional then I must be like the biggest outlier today enjoy your lonely man hating life I'm sure your husband will be enthused

TTS/Donationsin Saving his children rather than yourself why save you you hate men why save you simp men haters I love save me from what you're emotionally close to

Andrew Wilsonthat right so I understand that you're emotionally close to it but disconnect being emotional from it for a second okay let us assume for a second that you can agree with me that at least some

Andrew Wilsonwomen some just some who will make tweets like this and are mandress will act out in it in a way which is harmful to males by either poisoning them

Andrew Wilsonperhaps like has been done in the past or things like okay so even if you just grant that it's some even if it's only 10% of what it is for men or 30% of what it is for men then you would still have

Fara Khaljito look at it and say that's also bad and shouldn't happen the same way you would for men right no because the disparity in percents is what makes the difference so big ridiculous we're not talking about

Fara Khaljilike when men women they're watching violent torturous porn of women like don't you think there are just stronger correlations between misogyny and actually getting off on women being hared than her I don't think she would feel any Joy watching a man get beat and

Andrew Wilsonporn but I think men who say I hate women they are watching torture I'll prove it to you I'll prove it to you so let's take um oh man I got to frame my link language carefully here but let's assume for a second that one of those school

Andrew Wilsonevents you know what I'm talking about right a school event perpetrated by a man okay okay uh one of those types of events certain type of man let's assume we'll we'll we're going to say like

Andrew Wilsonalmost all of them are done by men right but like let's say hypothetically that 10 or 20% of them were done by women any of the tweets that would lead you down the same primal's path of

Andrew Wilsonthinking about men in that category that would lead to you thinking they would do that whatever women tweeted out the same things that were similar to that shouldn't it be the same red flag yeah I

Fara Khaljimean if you're tweeting murder find the I love men tweets well literally the I love one is a called to all over there you're incriminate incriminating yourself no not always they're not they don't always

Andrew Wilsonincriminate themselves by saying I'm going to go do this thing but they have red flag like behavior that leads to them doing the thing I but earlier I even told you I had the chance to murder my father and I didn't and I could have gotten away with it in self-de you got

Haley Hermsto be careful in that language right but like I I had the I literally had the opportunity and had the chance to get away with it and I didn't do it yeah I know I know but try to understand the kind of the way that you're making your

Andrew Wilsonarguments not every go kind of the way you're making your arguments and pushing your your kind of worldview is to say I'm very emotionally close and so therefore true right the Nashville Christian School murder stand out as a

Haley Hermswritten an entire Manifesto of hate will get into a fight and kick each other's ass women will poison or shoot you in the back what about war why you men are

Andrew Wilsonhe literally just you said that they are the almost sole en the only difference is like men are more brutal you keep misinterpreting what I'm

Andrew Wilsonsaying I didn't say that because because men are the enforcement arm that that means that they're in some way inherently violent I they are inherently

Haley Hermsviolent saying are not again not all of them but if we're talking about outliers outliers in this case would be the men so hang on hang on so when I'm talking about force

Andrew Wilsonand we're talking about inherent violence then what I'm saying here is that the inherent violence which is used to protect your rights that's good Force for you right men are inherently VI me

Andrew WilsonI'm AAP so that's not really like no but that misses the point the point is to say that violence itself is not bad it it's not inherently bad it's only bad

Andrew Wilsonwhen it's used for a bad purpose right can you like generally can you give me an example A man is using violence to protect your life you wouldn't consider that to be bad VI you would consider that like good violence

Andrew Wilsonright I guess yeah yeah so that's that's all I'm saying so she I'm just saying she's misinterpreting what I'm saying about enforcement that that doesn't mean that it's non benevolent CU enforcement of your rights would be relates to kind

Yamaniof what we're speaking about in the fact that women on a larger scale face more violence from men than if you look at it on the other way I'm not saying that they don't hold on I'm not saying that no woman has ever punched a man that

Yamanithey're dating for example I people men I date I could if I I couldn't I couldn't hurt them if I tried unless I had like a knife or a gun I'm so little I really if I wanted to like I would

Yamanireally have to work to like really physically harm most men that I date versus on the other hand a man most of I'm little a guy could probably smack me

Yamanione good time and whatever so bringing that back to we Face we're more likely to just we face more violence than I think it's the opposite so I see women

Andrew Wilsonhitting men all the time and men just take it I see it everywhere all the time I'm not making women hit men constantly and they don't do anything about it said though but this is exactly

Yamaniwhat I'm saying I can hit a man I'm not saying it makes it right I would have to hit you probably more times to hurt you than you would have to hit disagree or agree agree or disagree I'm not making it right it's not cool you okay listen I

Andrew Wilsonknow I know I'm trying to answer your question so I would agree that yes you might have to apply much more Force than a man but violence is still violence right so it's still if you even if you hit a man and it hurts less than when a

Brian Atlasman hits the man who's the conductor of the violence if the man doesn't hit him and you do I got wait I got something really good on this I got something really good on this so my understanding when it comes to I believe it's

Brian Atlasnonreciprocal DV the rates are actually the same um between men and women one very interesting statistic is that the

Brian Atlasdomestic violence rate amongst lesbian women is I believe much much higher than between gay men it's 70% so if if

Brian Atlasviolence is a male thing how do we explain that lesbians in lesbians are in homosexual relationships with two women versus two men

Brian Atlaswhere you've removed the uh that Dynamic how can it be that the domestic violence rate is substantially higher in female female relationships as compared to male

Andrew Wilsonmale relationships um and you're welcome to look up the stats on that but it's been studied thoroughly that 70% of all the domestic violence inside of homosexual

Yamanigroups is female and female um I mean I again I'm not disagreeing I'm sure I

Brian Atlasbelieve the numbers but I kind of feel like I don't know it's good oh and sorry

Yamanisorry I was just go ahead go um what was I just saying um you were saying you believe the numbers oh oh oh um I

Yamanithink I could say I don't know I feel like women are maybe a little bit more emotionally like reactionary in terms of like when it comes to being in

Yamanirelationship and reacting to for the most part we'll probably react a little bit quicker like a little bit more with more force or energy or

Yamaniemotion violence in terms of yeah you can you could use it what well I'm saying emotion because I'm saying like which it doesn't it's not abuse is yelling yelling screaming whatever

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