HEATED Debate With Man Hating Feminist?! IG Model KICKED OUT! | Dating Talk #122

Date: 2023-11-29
Duration: 6h 34m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_04Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_05Andrew Wilson(guest)
SPEAKER_06Yamani/Lena(guest)
SPEAKER_07Fara Khalji(guest)
SPEAKER_08Mera(guest)
SPEAKER_09Yamani(guest)
SPEAKER_10Kiki(host)
SPEAKER_11Macy(guest)
SPEAKER_12Haley Herms(guest)

Key Moments

00:53:14
QuoteMacy recounts father placing gun in her hand at his own head at age 17

he tried to have me murder him and like my best friend we like almost all died... he put a gun in my hand to have me try to kill him and was like holding my hand with the gun in his head

01:22:00
Key MomentFara states she would let humanity go extinct rather than restrict LGBT rights

I stated that I'm prioritizing autonomy over a utilitarian conception of prolonging the human race

01:32:58
QuoteFara reveals 2020 suicide attempt during philosophical debate about autonomy

my last suicide attempt was in 2020 let's not get into that

01:33:05
ControversyMera calls Andrew's population replacement argument 'Hitler-like'

you trying to replace the society that sounds like some Hitler that that's crazy

06:05:00
ControversyBrian repeatedly insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies emphatically multiple times

I don't know how many times I have to say this to you Brian you have... I already told you it's not true but you keep making me

06:25:30
ControversyHaley claims you can't be racist against white people; Brian calls this statement itself racist

I just don't think you can be racist against white people

06:25:57
QuoteHaley reveals former sugar baby history and using OnlyFans earnings for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral

I used the money to pay for my Catholic grandmother's funeral

06:26:31
OtherBrian kicks Mera off the show near the end (~6h31m) for persistent disruptive behavior

bro get the [expletive] off the show leave just get up leave get up leave this is she's been one of the most disruptive guests we've ever had

Topics Discussed

00:00:04
Introductions and relationship statuses

Guests introduce themselves with name, age, occupation, location. Then relationship status round. Mera (refuses to reveal age, ~33, Sherman Oaks, Twitch streamer, 4-year single 'boy phase'). Haley Herms (28, LA, plus-size model). Fara Khalji (24, Miami, content creator). Yamani (27, LA, bottle service/clothing). Lena (25, Delaware, OnlyFans). Macy (27, Mobile AL, insurance adjuster, married). Andrew Wilson (debate host, mechanical engineer, married 10+ years). Kiki (co-host).

00:07:00
Boy stage, terminology, and promiscuity norms

Discussion of the term 'boy phase' vs 'slut' for women. Whether men wife up promiscuous women. Debate on societal double standards for body count between men and women.

00:49:06
Kiki's relationship status and consent contract

Kiki describes 'complicated' status: met someone before China trip, gave him a written contract of negotiables/non-negotiables. He is still reviewing while she was away. Discussion of relationship contracts.

00:53:20
Mera's 100 dates in 2 months

Brian probes Mera about going on 100 dates in 2 months without finding anyone. Mera describes looking for connection and authentic experience. Discussion of age, fertility, egg freezing, and what she is actually looking for.

01:00:00
Guns and second amendment discussion

Panel asked if a man owning a gun is positive/neutral/negative. Andrew endorses gun ownership enthusiastically. Macy shares traumatic story of father holding gun to own head with her hand on it at age 17.

01:01:25
Yamani: men paying for her time off from bottle service

Yamani says men frequently offer to pay her bottle service wages (~$500+) to skip work and go on dates. Discussion of implications and transactional dating.

01:33:05
Feminist debate: promiscuity, population replacement, and autonomy

Andrew and Mera debate: does promiscuity harm society? Population replacement argument. Mera calls Andrew's replacement language 'Hitler-like' (misunderstanding). Extended hypothetical: would you let humanity go extinct to preserve autonomy/LGBT rights? Andrew says he would restrict certain behaviors to prevent extinction. Fara says she prioritizes autonomy over prolonging the human species.

02:03:00
Monogamy, nuclear family, and societal outcomes

Andrew argues monogamy and nuclear family optimal for children and society. Mera and Fara push back on imposing relationship structures. Discussion of women initiating 80% of divorces, stepfather risk data. Haley describes herself as socialist/feminist but Traditional Values in personal relationships.

02:30:00
Haley on communism and socialism

Haley describes herself as socialist with interest in communism. Discussion of whether communism works (small-scale communes vs large scale). Andrew argues communism requires compelled service. Haley defends communism as theoretical Utopia. Discussion of inflation, millennials, affordability of nuclear family.

05:45:15
Self-ratings (looks 1-10)

Panel rates own looks. Haley: 10 in fat community, 7.5 in society. Lena: 10 (confidence 10, societal 7-8). Brian: 5 (gained weight). Andrew: 6. Mera: 10. Yamani and Fara also 10. Rating round devolves into debate about fat attraction and political messaging.

05:57:12
Ideal sex frequency

Each guest shares ideal sex frequency. Mera: 2-4 times per day. Haley: once or twice a day. Mera reveals she takes birth control to reduce her high sex drive.

05:59:00
Haley's plus-size model career and OnlyFans content

Discussion of fat attraction, Andrew vs Haley debate over whether attraction to plus-size women is genuine or fetish. Haley claims shredded men are her top DMs. Her OnlyFans revenue from weigh-in/eating videos. Used OnlyFans earnings to pay for Catholic grandmother's $25k funeral.

06:00:00
Cosmetic procedures round

Brian asks who has had cosmetic procedures. Mera: deviated septum fix as child, lip filler yearly. Brian insists Mera has fake breasts; she denies multiple times.

06:01:36
Body count discussion

Body count round started. Andrew says he wouldn't be surprised if some women don't know their count. Discussion of double standards for high body count men vs women. Fara argues pair bonding applies more to women than men. Debate on whether men with high body counts are hypocritical for wanting low body count women.

06:25:57
Former sugar baby (Haley)

Haley reveals she had sugar daddy arrangements until age 22 (stopped after mother died). Charged $700 for date, $2500+ for time afterward. Total per visit $700-$5000. Had 2-3 sugar daddies, was intimate with 2. Dropped one after he revealed racist beliefs.

06:26:31
Mera kicked off show

Brian asks Mera to leave after she gets up from table and is disruptive. Cites her being obtuse, not staying seated, moving around repeatedly throughout show. Andrew notes timing was comedic (2 min before show end).

Transcript

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Meraahead hello YouTube chat my name is Mera and I live stream on Twitch okay uh where you
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Brian Atlasfrom that information is classified what do you mean classified where you live he means oh I live in shman O California if you guys want to stop by no I mean it could also be like you know where you no not ethnically
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Brian Atlasjust like where you're from what but huh what are the other two like where you currently live or where you originally like if you like you know you could she could have just moved to Sherman Oaks three months ago so I wouldn't if she
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Brian Atlaslived previously in New York for example for 20 years of her life I wouldn't say she's from Sherman Oaks I'm from Sherman Oaks californ I detect an accent so uh
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Brian Atlasare you from somewhere else what kind of accident are you detect in Brian what do you mean what are you feeling right now
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Brian Atlasa vague European accent okay which part of Europe I can you you want to just I don't want to play a guessing game but if you want to just say it go
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Brian Atlasahead I don't what do you mean haven't you disclos this already online no you've never disclosed your European origin no
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Brian Atlaseveryone's guessing everybody's guessing come on like you've obviously disclosed it's going to be a big reveal just like my age so you are going to reveal it at
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Haley Hermssome point yes during the show no wait what in her career oh my God this girl is annoying okay um what about you hi
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Haley HermsI'm Haley Herms I'm 28 um I'm a plus-size model content creator and entrepreneur and I'm from La okay uh thank you for disclosing your
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Fara Khaljiage and your uh where you're from appreciate it what about you my name is far khi I'm 24 I live in Miami and I'm a content creator all right welcome back
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Yamaniwhat about you my name is yamani I'm 27 I live in LA I do bottle service I make clothes yeah okay do you do any content
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Yamani/Lenacreation at all or I do I do content creation as well what kind I an only fans okay got it what about you my name
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Brian Atlasis Lena I'm 25 years old and I do only fans all right welcome welcome and uh where you from oh Delaware Delaware okay there you have it folks she's from
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MacyDelaware what uh what about you my name is Macy I am 27 can you turn down just a t yeah go ahead 27 I'm 27 and I am from
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MacyMile Alabama and what do you do for work I'm an insurance adjuster not as glamorous as all these other girls but I do pay the bills the same way gotcha
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Andrew Wilsonokay and uh Andrew what about you my name is Andrew Wilson I'm the host of The Crucible fastest growing debate Channel anywhere online um for work I'm a mechanical engineer and uh content
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Andrew Wilsoncreator he's a content creator for motorcycle exhaust folks um was was there more no no that was I was going to say that the only the only
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Andrew Wilsonone of these girls that came in here correct was the one sitting next to me because she brought cookies oh yeah she did thank you for bringing cookies and they were like awesome looking cookies I was pretty impressed with that
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SPEAKER_02the rest of you should all feel shame because deep shame for having not far I'm looking at you I was expecting some sort of we wanted the K cookies and you didn't bring
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Brian Atlasyeah I'm I'm very disappointed deeply we can go get them after I think most shops are closed unfortunately okay okay all right uh so we're going to go around the table once more so what is your current
00:06:12
Brian Atlasrelationship status are you single talking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married polyle sex cult Harum if you're single how long have you been single and what's the longest relationship you've ever been in
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Merago ahead that's a lot of questions can we do one at a time sure so okay current relationship status I am currently single okay how long have
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Merayou been single I have been single for 4 years okay longest relationship 8 years 8 years okay oh
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Merawhoops hold on I would say I'm currently in my boy stage because most of my life I was in relationships you're currently in your boy stage is it sexist should I say
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Brian Atlasgirl yeah uh well you know that's interesting I've thought of that before and me personally I don't have an issue with it but there is a cohort of women that seems to object to the term and
00:07:11
Brian Atlasthat it would occur to me that boy is the counterpart to the word or so I'd prefer if you said bang made bang feel like bang made is better I feel
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Yamanilike that do saying denote what a boy is though a bang mate is have the same like you can still be a boy and not be true so and I feel
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Meralike I guess you could be a and not be sleding that's that is true I also feel like slot has a lot of negative connotation as opposed to boy would boy is not a positive women
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Brian Atlastypically use that in a derogatory sense how does derogatory a yeah I feel like perhaps not to the same degree but I don't think it's like if a girl calls a guy boy I don't think there's any like oh this is an upstanding it's not
00:07:58
Merait's not to be nice how do man feel about that term isn't that something you derive Pride from because you sleep with a lot of women if you're proud of sleeping with a lot of women I'm just asking yeah you
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Andrew Wilsonmean from a man's point of view yeah so I mean from a what as you may know all men are different and some have different virtues than other men so not all men you say boy is more of like
00:08:19
Andrew Wilsona offensive term well I would say that it's not used in a way towards men in order to be nice it doesn't seem like a nice thing for I don't think it's mean I think they're saying like this guy isn't seeking a relationship but I think a girl is still willing to date a boy
00:08:32
Fara Khaljiif he converts but I don't think a guy is going to date a if he deems her a oh they do it frequently all the time they do it's ill advised it's ill advised I don't think those are the guys who are
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Fara Khaljicalling girls is my point wait which which ones are not calling women the ones who are willing to date the quote unquote I don't think are I think they do they might you think they're just like this girl such a
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Fara Khaljicome they go like they like I bang the last night come on they do banged I said dating I think a girl would date a boy if he got his together and became I've heard the term saying boy as in like he doesn't want a
00:09:07
Haley Hermsrelationship but guys don't want relationships with the is my point but girls would no they get in relationships with them quite frequently get in the relationships and it's just like they know it's not going anywhere
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Yamaniserious I men they act like they don't but they love like we they they wife up strippers they wife up like they wife up girls who do porn I
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Yamaniknow a lot of girls who do content creation that are all in like super happy relationships I don't know I think it's like you don't want to tell your friends
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Yamanithat your girl is a but deep down like Everyone likes hoes not everyone but or you get like a cool you get like
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Andrew Wilsona fun wife that or like a chill wife that doesn't really do much but you got a little on the side I think the opposite is true and that most most men probably don't want to have a chick
00:10:02
Haley Hermswho's been with a lot of men I said they like if they don't want to date them whatever but guys definitely they be wiping them up I see it and I know girls that like don't do sex
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Haley Hermsstuff but like you would look at them and be like she's yeah like I think a lot of guys would cuff an Instagram model even though they would objectively say like she's a bit in high school one of my friends was like deemed like the biggest was
00:10:28
Haley Hermsbullied so bad she had a drop out of high school and meanwhile she was like the biggest Virgin of everyone in the grade so it was interesting okay
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Andrew Wilsonso jeez I don't know what's going on out there they're probably coming here yeah so the here's the delineation if a chick if a chick has
00:10:49
Andrew Wilsonsex with a lot of men she's a right but if she just dresses provocatively we have a name for them too we call them skanks so there's a distinction right I've never heard say SK well I mean the the younger
00:11:02
Brian Atlasgeneration needs to learn the word it needs to come back Fair yeah love it kind of 80s uh well so okay going back to you uh you can leave it you can leave it a little Clos Nick it's going to get
00:11:14
Brian Atlaschilly um just Nick come on um so you've been single for four years longest relationship was 8 years uh when
00:11:25
Brian Atlasdid your 8year Rel like how old were you when you had this 8year relationship are you trying to figure out my age Brian that's not you don't need to be obtuse like come on people here okay if I were to Google your name would there
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Brian Atlasbe disclosures about your age you can try mea I don't even know your last name mea age I don't know mirror twitch age
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Mera1990 famousbirthdays.com that's a good sour that's reliable I mean no I don't it might not be accurate but um I was I was 16 when I first started that relationship that was my first year in
00:12:02
Brian Atlascollege we're just going to say that you're 33 how's that sound whatever works for okay I'm writing down 33 if you'd like to correct to the record feel free um okay so you said you were 16
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Brian Atlaswhen you started that so you from 16 to 20 Jesus I I can't do math right now 16 to what 23 24 about would you say
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Brian Atlassorry that was a cool animation um yeah someone in there okay um okay fine you want to be obtuse about the whole age thing um you said you're
00:12:37
Brian Atlasyou're currently in your boy phase what do what does that look like what do you mean when you say that I think there's so much in the
00:12:47
Meraworld that I have not experienced yet because I was quite closed-minded that's how I was raised in quite conservative ways at least like sexually that now I'm just doing
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Merawhatever feels right even though there's still a little bit of a you know stigma because I was raised in that conservative way what feels right I'm trying to listen more to my body and
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Meralike what feels good what is interesting what's fun and just go along with that which is what like whatever I feel in the moment
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Brian Atlasyou said whatever feels right in your body what what does that what does that mean you want me to describe like how a woman gets aroused Brian no that's not
00:13:31
Brian Atlaswhat I'm asking but like how does that practically manifest itself when it comes to dating are you dating multiple people are you seeing multiple people or what what are we talking about here cuz
00:13:41
Merayou said boy so I think I was a little too harsh with that word but basically I am meeting as many people as I can right now and trying to get to
00:13:51
Meraknow them to see if there's connection whether it's physical mental any type of Attraction like opportunity for growth cuz I notice a lot of times people will get attracted if you have something
00:14:03
Merathey're lacking or they have something you're lacking and you kind of like fill in those holes you know and you're just like growing together to a better self
00:14:11
Brian Atlasso that's what's very stimulating to me okay so you complete each other sort of like a puzzle piece like if for example a guy is broke since you're a very
00:14:23
TTS/Donationssuccessful content creator you would be prepared to you know provide financially because he's lacking in that department John Smith donated
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TTS/Donations$100 can you ask Andro if he's been in the military before last time he made some comments about wm's that I thought were pretty uncool if he's never served
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Brian Atlasand if he says a force or CG that's a no that did not mean to trigger that the Lurch should be higher but um I'll fix it go ahe go ahead Andrew if you want to yeah so everything I said about WM is
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Andrew Wilsoncorrect I was in but the Army for a short amount of time uh not for very long I had a uh medical discharge gotcha uh just a point sorry guys um there was
00:15:07
Brian Atlasan error there just to be clear TTS trigger is uh 200 and up but that was a that was our fault just want to make make it clear to everybody uh go ahead
00:15:17
Merathose are high prices go ahead you seem seem upset and no I'm just surprised cuz in twitch usually it's like3 or5 it's like whoa YouTube is stepping it up is it normal
00:15:28
Merafor YouTube maybe I should move to YouTube so question was would I provide for a male if he was
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Meranot doing as well as me financially did I get the question right sure I think that's what I have been doing so far and I would say I'm tired of that I would prefer somebody who's On My Level or
00:15:52
Brian Atlashigher just for you know variety purposes gotcha okay and you so okay you said you were an eight-year relationship uh when did that end how long ago did thate relationship
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Brian Atlasend I don't remember I think you're better in MTH than me okay uh you've been single for four years so for that four-year period have you been in the boy stage as you I was trying yeah it's still a little hard like imagine
00:16:16
Merayou being raised traditionally you still have like so many limits in your mind that limits or you think benal values and mindsets uh are
00:16:28
Brian Atlasartificial what do you mean with that well you said you you said you were raised traditionally and you said that that's a that's limiting yes but I'm asking could it perhaps be a beneficial
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Merainstead of a limiting thing I don't know I'm not too sure one thing I figure out is that life is really short and we should enjoy it
00:16:51
Meratranslation sleep with a bunch of men I think if I were to tell you my number you will not believe it like it's it doesn't come to the number it comes
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Meradown to how much you enjoy what you do cuz sometimes I notice women sleep with men than not even enjoying it that's true why why do that I wonder the same thing you don't know until you find out
00:17:13
Brian Atlasright actually that's a good point too without trying how would you know I mean the context would matter in that situation like if it's a one night stand you're both at the bar drunk I
00:17:25
Brian Atlaswould say like most men in that context would probably not be particularly preoccupied with your uh you reaching climax or orgas could you say that about anything like if you don't try it how do
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Andrew Wilsonyou know like fentol I don't do fentol well why would you know you don't like it if you haven't tried it right that doesn't that seem like slightly insane to say okay I think it comes down to context and like what's leading to it I
00:17:47
Merathink there's also pressure as to why sometimes women Eng engage in sex cuz there's so many reasons as to what kind of pressure why they should well there's
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Meramaterialistic side there's a side where you feel like it will make a guy feel bad like at times I would question myself like should I do it just as a py
00:18:09
Merasex cuz they really really want it and I feel bad for them but then I it's really that's not a good reason to do that you
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Meragot to listen to your body pity sex is ill advised um uh also I feel like one night stands not as enjoyable generally speaking
00:18:30
Merabecause without connection yeah of course of course that's something I found out on like by myself too uhuh I was just trying this is like a good example when you try just to see what it's
00:18:41
Macylike that is a terrible advice why yeah I probably wouldn't do that why sleeping with someone to see if you like it yeah why is that terrible
00:18:53
Fara Khaljiadvice I don't think that I need to how she been damaged by trying that are you mentally damaged or physic Al damaged from testing it out I think I just learned the lesson like I'm not going to do that again it it was one of these
00:19:05
Andrew Wilsonthat's damag her saying I'm not going to do that again I think that random promiscuous sex with people just to try it out seems like it could lead to a lot of damage how frequent just to try it
00:19:15
Yamaniout's had a one night stand no one's done it before like you have to try effect but I mean she seems fine you know you have to she would have been chronically
00:19:27
Andrew Wilsoncurious otherwise now she no well what should she look like like if there was a scar if there was a mental scar what should she look like should she come in and go look be Jed she could be a fem cell she could swear off men she could maybe not give us any
00:19:40
Andrew Wilsonof the details that we've been asking for and then he has to pry each and every individual one out she can kind of be a smartass and totally vague maybe all those are mental scars due to the fact that she's been hyper or maybe not
00:19:51
Fara Khaljiwe don't know she do seem to I didn't ask for I didn't ask for ethn yes you did I she said Sherman Oaks and you said I'm detecting an accent that's asking that could be nationality you said maybe she lived
00:20:03
Brian Atlassomewhere prior to Sherman Oaks maybe she was like in New York for 20 years how' you get a European accent from living in New York why is that more she has one night stand I was using New York as an example I'm not saying
00:20:15
Brian Atlasthat she's I detected a New York accent for it's kind of irrev that brought up I was saying all right so okay um you said
00:20:27
Brian Atlasright now you're just trying things out so uh and you said you're you oh excuse me you said you're trying to meet as many people as possible correct so like how
00:20:38
Merawhat does that look like five dates a week honestly sometimes I go on two or three a day two or three a day okay I wish we still had speed dating going on I think that would be interesting you
00:20:52
Meraknow when you sit like in front of the other person for like 5 minutes if you're not really enjoying it then you switch to the next seat and there's another
00:21:00
Brian Atlasperson oh like speed dating yes like in event they still have those I Reon where I can you give me a link to that what's that I'm actually I would be interested
00:21:11
Brian Atlasto do that you'd be interested to do speed dating yes why is that not read there's a $100 donation we we read it at intervals
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Brian Atlasthroughout the show we don't read it immediately okay don't worry okay we got you know what maybe will'll hire you as a producer you can come on as a consultant you can give us some you know
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Brian Atlasrecommendations but um okay so uh for example how many in the past two weeks how many dates have you been
00:21:41
Meraon past two weeks probably 20 20 dates okay around that well date means with
00:21:49
Brian Atlasdifferent people with the same person uh date how about with different people yeah about and and to clarify because I
00:21:59
Brian Atlasfeel like for example if you were to just have a guy over to your house or a guy you went to a guy's house he went to yours uh did I just is that redundant
00:22:10
Brian Atlasdid I just say the same thing am I having a stroke okay let's just say you spent time with somebody with and you had a romantic interest in them we'll
00:22:20
Brian Atlascount that as a date cuz some people only consider a date if we went out to a public venue such as we went to get dinner I'm going to be honest I didn't
00:22:31
Merafeel any romantic interest towards any of them because it's hard for me to feel that before meeting them in real life to just just to clar you can tell us what you think a date is what's a
00:22:42
Brian Atlasdate you might not have had romantic interest but the context with which you were meeting it wasn't like a business meeting it wasn't just friends hanging out it was a guy maybe he was interested
00:22:54
Merain you asking you out and you were going to meet him to see if there was a potential whatever yes I think from their side most of it is exactly as you're describing from my side it's a
00:23:07
Mera50/50 it could be something that results in Romance and sex it could be something that goes just into friendship and networking I don't know until I meet the
00:23:17
Brian Atlasperson okay so how frequently are you going on these dates we just call them dates every day not today cuz I made it to the show sure yeah you came to the
00:23:27
Andrew Wilsonshow um so but 20 dates in the past two weeks wait what what are you are you I get the distinct feeling that you're totally full of about basically everything that you're saying you you go
00:23:39
Andrew Wilsonon dates every single day yes yes and and what so what's the context behind that you say like I have to meet a person and then I go on a date with the person that I meet right so how you
00:23:49
Merasetting up these blind dates probably dating apps right or a lot of people message me on Instagram okay so I just go of that I look at their profile I see if there's anything interesting in terms
00:24:01
Meraof their looks personality anything I can connect with the person and then I just pick one of those because they usually want to meet so in the in the uh
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Brian Atlascurrent dating climate Andrew with like dating apps social media it's super easy granted she's an attractive woman I I mean I would argue even a average looking woman if she was so inclined
00:24:23
Andrew Wilsoncould have a date every single day of the week if she wanted to you're going on dates every day yes would you like to go on a date with me and nope but you you do go on dates every single day
00:24:33
Andrew Wilsonreally yes what makes you not believe that I don't know it see because so I'm I'm really trained very well in spotting when people are full of and they're Liars because no not from the military
00:24:45
Andrew Wilsonbut from years of doing very high level skilled debates right okay because you're so evasive at almost every point about what you're being asked I feel like almost nothing that you're telling
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Andrew Wilsonus is accurate or true and it's I don't know what the the kind of gig is yet but we'll see as we go through I think you generalize in too much yeah we'll see no I've been with her the past week she goes on a lot of dates what's the
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Merapoint of me lying I think it makes me look if any anything bad I was judged by being evasive well uh about my age because I plan to have like a big release about it later on and obviously
00:25:21
Brian Atlasthat benefit from it I've never heard a content creator Okay Age reveal like face reveals I've heard about but like accent reveal party it's going to be new it's going to be big accent reveal party
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TTS/Donationsage reveal party like I don't know modist hikima donated $200 brixon I see you have reverted to the mental ill again speed dating is
00:25:43
TTS/Donationsstill going on you just aren't a part of it brain dead 304 Andrew welcome back keep representing why are you still in
00:25:51
Brian Atlasus I think this is directed towards you Myra Mera oh okay excuse me Mera I'll probably it up again so feel free to correct me terrible memory go ahead go ahead do
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Merayou want the answer why you still in the US Oh I thought he was asking Andrew why he's still in the US um why am I still in us well that's because it's getting
00:26:14
Brian Atlascold and being in Europe right now is not best time H okay very simple all right so okay you're going um 20 days a week or
00:26:26
Brian Atlassorry sorry you've in the past two weeks you've gone on 20 dates sometimes you're going on what's the most amount of dates you've gone on in one day probably three although I do not
00:26:37
Meralike the word date cuz like I said for me it could be anything like friendship coming out of it some type of business opportunity I feel like the date always means that it has to be something
00:26:47
Haley Hermsromantic or sexual coming out of it no not NE hanging out right like dating is for I feel like dating is for romance so if you're not dating to connect romantically than you're just hanging out it feels like kind of avoiding the
00:27:00
Andrew Wilsonspirit of the question right it's not he's not asking for like business engagements and things like that but rather oh well I what it's not clear to me if these are
00:27:12
Brian Atlasnecessarily going into them business meetings or F like meeting with friends what she is saying is that she's meeting
00:27:20
Brian Atlasmen who they've shown a romantic interest in her but feel like it's she's saying that she will not consider it a
00:27:31
Brian Atlasdate if it doesn't if she doesn't have a mutual interest in them but that that is not what would constitute a date because you can go on a date as a woman and by
00:27:42
Brian Atlasthe end of the date determine you have no romantic interest in the person that doesn't meane you still went on the date that's why it doesn't make any sense so I yeah so okay we don't really need to
00:27:52
Brian Atlasaddress the we'll we'll just assume that these are dates that you're going on um but okay so in the past in 2023 how many dates have you been on do you
00:28:04
Brian Atlasthink well this is my recent fog boy stage oh it's recent okay I started like maybe two months ago two months ago okay before then I was just streaming at home
00:28:14
Brian AtlasK I see okay so for let's dig into the boy two-month thing what's going on how or excuse me let me let me be
00:28:24
Brian Atlasmore specific how many dates have you gone on in the past two
00:28:31
Meramonths probably about 100 okay 100 any prospects or not so much me
00:28:41
Merame I have to admit sorry it's your helmet collection it just it's very
00:28:47
Merafascinating um so I have to admit that La scenery is not really my CA uh
00:28:56
Merait's it's not really my cup of tea your what's not your cup of tea um what I noticed in terms of man in
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MeraLa it's not quite something I'm interested in so far just generally speaking so they're either really if I had to categorize it I feel like they're
00:29:16
Meraeither really successful men that are not very attractive physically or the ones that are not successful just trying to make it
00:29:28
Merathey're fairly attractive I suppose physically but there's just not enough there they're just kind of trying trying too hard sometimes or try to appear somebody they're not which is understandable they're just trying to
00:29:40
Brian Atlasmake it wa what is not what is not your cup of tea um I just missed the I didn't hear La men in La okay I see okay so
00:29:50
Brian Atlaspast two months boy phase 100 100 dates has there ever been of the hundred these are all like First Dates to be clear correct pretty much like 100 dates
00:30:02
Brian Atlaswith 100 men different men different men yes I feel like I'm in a thery session have you been on any second dates at all or no I have okay yes okay um any have any of these in the past two months
00:30:15
Brian Atlasturned into like a situationship or a talking stage or can you define situationship well I mean it I don't think it's necessary but English is my
00:30:24
Merasecond language mine too oh yours yeah I'll disclose I was born in France so French French language is your first language yes French is my first language
00:30:34
Brian Atlasyeah I speak it about as well as a kangaroo though so um so let's see um did any of
00:30:44
Merathese go past a second or third date they have but like I said because of how I was raised I'm still taking it slow taking it slow okay it's like I don't
00:30:55
Merawant to rush anything I don't want to do do any first like encounter or like pity sex anymore I just want sex anymore so you have done done it done it done pity
00:31:05
Brian Atlassex I've done that once I lucky guy good for him why do men do that do what were were you like guilted that's
00:31:17
Merathat's kind of weird on the guy's part not going to lie like just take the L I just I just feel bad for them you know they they try they're like little puppies and then just look at you like just like they TR F and they're and they're very kind to you and attentive
00:31:30
Andrew Wilsonand you're like fine that's that's like the alternative of female female manipulation where they do the exact same type of thing say like so you're just like a a
00:31:41
Haley Hermsboy it kind of I don't know that sounds like a good guy to me but maybe she just doesn't like him well some guys well I feel like some
00:31:52
Haley Hermsgirls just naturally like you know like the bad boy like thing going on you know what I mean I mean is that the vibe that you get from me no well no just off of what you just said I don't know it's
00:32:04
Haley Hermslike it just it doesn't seem like that like a you know a more Shy Guy like it seems like you like a guy who's like take charge and like more like you know I don't know how that's actually a good point but then again you still need to
00:32:16
Meralike him imagine a guy takes too much charge as you said that and you not really into him this is where issues of course you need to be interested and attracted to the guy
00:32:27
Brian Atlasum but H when it comes to the pity sex thing really quick uh it's not clear to me if the most attractive thing a woman
00:32:34
Brian Atlascan say before sex is I guess we can like that's not that's not a a turn on for me anyways but whatever well I think I also was
00:32:47
Meratrying to sort of get over the last sympathy person that I was somewhat seeing before those two months started even even though it
00:32:57
Brian Atlaswasn't officially a relationship but I was um seeing him for a little while okay all right well uh maybe we can come back to some of that stuff but uh out of
00:33:08
Brian Atlascuriosity if if you're open with sharing um of the 100 first dates that you went on how many of them did you get intimate with did you are we talking about sex yes p and the V sexual
00:33:20
Brian Atlasintercourse p and the v p p and the V sexual intercourse um p and and what V p and what V I'm not familiar with see
00:33:30
Brian Atlasthe p word on here p and the v p in in the v what's the V
00:33:38
Brian Atlasvagina why would you pee in a vagina no penis some girls are into that but no penis penis in P in the v okay so out of
00:33:51
Brian Atlasall of those it was just one and it was the pity sex and I will never do that again it was the pity sex the one guy and even then you didn't really okay all right
00:34:01
Brian Atlasum I mean I kind of got to put some respect on that because like that's a good ratio 100 guys you turn all 100 down except for one and even the one it was kind of like but that's not for me
00:34:14
Meralike I don't pride myself on having little sex I would prefer to have more but I feel like it's hard for me to be attracted to men these days physically attracted or I think other ways you have to be attracted on both levels like
00:34:27
Meraphysical is not enough it has to be mental and physical mental so you're a saposexual maybe I like how that sounds okay I also believe that liberalism is
00:34:38
MeraSkilling testosterone in man these days I would prefer that the man is more assertive not like caveman yeah way not like he's going to put me over his shoulder and take me home
00:34:50
Merabut that is what she wants though that is what you want but at the same time you want to make sure that the woman is attracted you cuz have you ever had a wall slam could you define that for me Brian a wall slam somebody slam you
00:35:02
Brian Atlasacross the wall no like let's say you're making out with a guy and he grabs you by your hair and like he's not like abusing you but like push like okay you're talking about rough sex no no not even like if you're just making out I
00:35:14
Meramean it could be within sex but like a wall slam I feel like they is is that kind of something okay yeah is that what you're talking about something like that but I always felt like it was fake I always
00:35:26
Merafelt like I'm still the dominant one and I don't want to tell you Dom men in the bedroom I don't you don't but you said you're the dominant one I feel like I'm still like the
00:35:37
Meraleader not necessarily sexually but like yes mentally like psychologically like I know what's going to happen I know where this is going to go I basically have I don't want to say an upper hand
00:35:50
Merait almost feels like it's a game but yeah I don't feel like a man has more than Me overall does that make sense well I mean you're you're an
00:36:02
Brian Atlasattractive woman you're successful I wonder if perhaps that plays a part of it but uh I I would say generally speaking
00:36:12
Brian Atlasthough women typically do have the upper hand in courtship because the men are pursuing you right so that's a position of power I would say but I still feel
00:36:22
Meralike on many levels you as a woman should feel like you can learn from a man otherwise where's the attraction if you feel like you're stronger smarter
00:36:34
Merabetter looking like anything in terms of qualities that generally Society values that you have more combined than the man what is the point of being with the man otherwise I'm going to eat them for
00:36:48
Brian Atlasbreakfast okay have you never mind move to the next here I I I want to just get around the table on everybody but maybe
00:36:55
Brian Atlaswe can come back to some of that um so uh wait oh Nick is the audio muted no oh hold on sorry some TT or some messages
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Brian Atlasuh thank you J JBS just a reminder guys um 100 and up to read and 200 and up okay wait hold on um so your your
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TTS/Donationsrelationship status oh sorry hold on just a sec Seven Deadly simps donated $200 these women learned long ago that the amount of time people can tolerate
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Brian Atlashow have been sing7 about 2ish years two years longest relationship about six years six years
00:38:06
Brian Atlasokay and from uh what age to what age was the uh relationship um like 20 to like 26 okay so so the relationship that
00:38:17
Brian Atlasended two years ago was your longest relationship at 6 years yes gotcha and uh are you currently I mean you're single but I'm dating there's a there's a guy in the picture a couple guys in
00:38:29
Haley Hermsthe picture what's situationships right no situationships okay uh I kind of I don't have the
00:38:39
Haley Hermsattention span in the time to kind of Juggle a whole bunch of guys I don't essentially think like everyone needs to have a roster so I'm kind of more like
00:38:48
Haley Hermsday one at a time type of girl um situation so there's like a guy or two I'm like kind of interested in feeling out but I wouldn't say it's like a
00:38:59
Brian Atlasfull-blown situationship at the moment okay got it yeah all right and uh similar to Meera did I get it right this
00:39:08
Brian Atlastime uh have you ever had a boy phase yeah like once once once in New York in New York yeah for a couple
00:39:20
Brian Atlasmonths couple months gotta were were you living there or are you from there or um I'm by Coastal so I have a place in La New York from oh really okay cool cool got it okay and what did the boy
00:39:30
Haley Hermsphase look like for you oh well I'll paint a picture sure cardi B was just like getting at the top
00:39:38
Haley Hermsof the charts you know so that was uh no this was earlier than b y Street yeah bodak yellow so this was like the time of like oo out oh can I say that
00:39:50
Haley Hermssorry it's fine it's fine um so it was it felt like kind of empowering but essentially I didn't really do it in the motive to like go out and be like I'm
00:40:00
Haley Hermsgoing to conqu Conquest men I just kind of wanted to see if like I could be that type of girl or if that was like you know like a city girl and I was like I'm
00:40:11
Haley Hermsnot a city girl like tried it but like it really wasn't for me I'm a lover girl so made it hard got it far what about you um I'm single I've been single for
00:40:22
Brian Atlasabout a year and a half and my longest relationship was about 4 years 4 years gotcha and if I recall from the previous times you've been on the show uh despite
00:40:32
Brian Atlashaving had some of these relationships you are you've not been intimate with somebody biblically speaking in that way I'm a virgin correct yeah okay gotcha wow just context for the audience and
00:40:45
Yamanithe rest of the panel um get how surprised you are like exist they exist no that's cool what about you um I my
00:40:56
Brian Atlaslast last relationship was uh uh a current relationship status oh I'm single I'm single gotcha how long
00:41:04
Yamanihave you been single for for like a year and a half now okay a year and a half got it yeah uh longest
00:41:13
Brian Atlasrelationship um like 3 years three years okay got it and so you've been single for 1.5 years but you know uh there a
00:41:23
Brian Atlasguy in the picture no no come on on not there's not a guy you're texting or are you on any dating apps no nothing no the
00:41:34
Yamaniguys don't slide in to the DMS at all yeah um oh they slide in they yeah they do they do but I'm usually I feel like
00:41:41
YamaniI'm pretty uninterested in a lot of guys um uh they at one point we thought she
00:41:49
Yamaniwas asexual and I still am stop the cap wait what it's a real thing I've known her for 10
00:41:59
Yamaniyears 10 years yeah literally I thought I was lesbian I thought I was literally like maybe you're a lesbian are you asexual I go to periods of celibacy for like I've been celibate for like 2 years
00:42:10
TTS/Donationsbefore modest H him a donated $200 miror Bas TF single Body by choice obviously take that power girl and come
00:42:20
Brian Atlasto Utah you will be widely welcome you can eat me for breakfast any day brixon why are you up TTS you mad at me no just I I want to make sure we have a little smoother show I have a lot of notes and
00:42:33
Brian AtlasI just want to make sure we get through it and not keep everyone too late so uh yeah dude thank you uh jaama appreciate it do you want me to actually pronounce your name right because I think I'll eventually get it thank you man
00:42:44
Brian Atlasappreciate it um so you think you're potentially asexual it's it's definitely I mean it's possible like I don't are you asexual or
00:42:56
Brian Atlasyou you just don't find yourself physically or sexually attracted to like a vast swaths of men yeah because like in your three-year relationship I mean
00:43:04
Brian Atlaswas it a dead bedroom situationship or situation excuse me no no but okay sorry sorry are you in birth control oh no I
00:43:15
Yamanidon't believe in birth control oh okay cuz I believe that actually affects your level of arousement yeah I've never I've never I think I went on birth control and I was like wait what is wait wait let's pull this one up really quick oh I
00:43:28
Brian Atlasknow Mitch Jones he plays World of Warcraft wait hold on speaking wait hey you don't get get back into the frame what are you doing ruined Mitch ruined you I didn't know you dated Mitch Jones
00:43:40
Brian AtlasI've I've seen his stream he uh he recently recently played World of Warcraft hardcore classic he plays a mage typically now oh wait did he yeah
00:43:50
Brian Atlashe got he was in a frontier but while they were farming in silithus he he died and in hardcore once you die that's it so uh the Arcane dream he's a great Mage
00:44:02
Brian Atlasthat's all I got to say Sol Mage solid Mage ask her about the time wait did is this is this true what what is true that you he's a great Mage no that you that is true you drugged did you drug Mitch I
00:44:14
Meradon't know any of I didn't even know you dated these are Big accusations is slander is this slander Harris haray heray okay but Mitchell is
00:44:26
Meraa great Mage I do confirm when did you guys you guys dated a like how long ago wait was this year wait hold on is a really strong oh no I that would not
00:44:38
Merawork um were you guys in a relationship no we were just really good friends for a long time actually we spoke like a couple days ago we stay in touch he lives in Austin right now he's going to tell him to come on the podcast Mitch
00:44:50
Merahave a big comeback um sure I will but he doesn't plan to anytime soon honestly because there's a big W release again I guess in a month he's going to season of Discovery yes he's going to cave for a long time in Texas what's it called cave
00:45:03
Merayeah that where you just like stay inside and just play yes we play and stream on Twitch that's how we met on TW uh on Twitch yeah we're both streamers there for like 10 years how did you guys meet TT my chat told me to talk to him
00:45:16
Merahis chat told me to talk to him literally our first conversation was on Twitch that's some Cupid it is it really is Twitch chat connects Hearts it's really cute yeah yeah I'm sure some
00:45:26
Brian Atlassome very healthy relationships have come from from uh I feel like from what I've heard a lot of these relation these like Creator relationships are
00:45:37
Meracatastrophic and yeah it it's hard to do that when so many people are nitpicking and watching every step that you make and obviously they're going to have
00:45:47
Meratheir own past experiences they're going to project into your relationship so it can become like a show if it's not a very strong healthy relationship which most younger people just don't have that
00:45:59
Meragoing on that can tear it apart people will tear it apart you have to be very careful and like I guess conserve it as much as you can only like be very selective with what you show but so you
00:46:12
Brian Atlaswere dating him okay Brian yes I'm asking I'm asking I don't know any details I've seen his stream like three times I'm not super familiar with we had fun actually no I
00:46:23
Brian Atlasthink I I dm'd him a couple months ago to see if he wants to be on the show but that's the extent of it I can talk to him about it I think that would be interesting we have good chemistry he's he's got some some Riz he does some
00:46:35
Brian AtlasCharisma he's honestly really fun to hang out with he seems like a good guy yeah yeah yeah Mitch Jones come on we'll talk about World of Warcraft in season of Discovery next time if you got a
00:46:45
Brian Atlasguild we'll uh pitch we'll help you recruit okay not that you need it um okay so but so were you guys like Friends with Benefits what was boyfriend
00:46:55
Brian Atlasgirlfriend what was the extent of the relationship what you did date him right you really don't let me get away with vague answers H well it's just easier if you're just precise that way I can get a
00:47:06
Brian Atlasquick answer you can answer then I can keep things moving what is your relationship status Brian oh my God this girl is that her yes my I am currently in a long-term she I'm
00:47:19
Brian Atlasactually was going to propose to her tonight but um no actually she's a virgin her Chastity is Inta so if you'd like I can arrange what's
00:47:28
Brian Atlasher name Kiki do you love me exactly oh my God this okay just burning seconds here um what what was the boyfriend girlfriend I mean it's clear people know
00:47:40
Brian Atlasyou guys were romantically involved so it's it'd be very simple instead of me having to try to pull it out of you if You' just be like oh yeah we were boyfriend girlfriend is it clear I don't think we ever had like a sex tape or
00:47:51
Meraanything we just like H out we hang out that's all like on stream and qued a lot for entertainment of twit chat they like that so you guys were you
00:48:03
Brian Atlasguys monogamous exclusive oh no he was sleeping around a lot okay so it wasn't exclusive so you guys were like it was a situationship
00:48:15
MeraFriends with Benefits type thing I think we were just streaming on Twitch entertaining people and like having a good time that's how I would Define that because you could have just said oh
00:48:26
Merawe were just friends but it sound but you there's definitely an edge that was added to it but did you guys have p and the V was there p and the
00:48:40
Brian AtlasV yes no just a tip I'm not ready to answer that question just a tip just for a second just to see how it
00:48:50
Merafeels no that would be pity sex okay
00:48:58
Brian Atlasum okay so where were we uh we next to Kiki relationship status go ahead oh
00:49:06
Yamani/Lenait's a little complicated right now like uh before I went to China on vacation I met someone I kind of liked but I didn't exactly know what his
00:49:17
Yamani/Lenaboundaries and things were so I kind of gave him um kind of like a contract thing of mine to read over to see if he agrees oh that's right wait and then
00:49:26
Yamani/Lenalike you have a consent form no it doesn't exactly have to be follow there's like a list of negotiables and
00:49:36
Yamani/Lenanon-negotiables and things but um it's like my boundaries and then he can add his and if we both kind of align then I'm willing to like date so wait are you
00:49:47
Yamani/Lenacurrently you are you single or what what's this what's your relationship status um I'm just complicated it's complicated I'm not saying any anyone else I'm just kind of waiting till I get
00:49:57
Yamani/Lenaback after this to see the response did you bring a copy of the contract I asked her I asked her if she has a contct when I was asking to come on the show I wasn't sure when I'd be back from China
00:50:08
Yamani/Lenaand then once I knew I gave a date of when I could come on the show and then I didn't bring my sorry I didn't uh bring my laptop with me to China so I couldn't
00:50:19
Yamani/Lenauh send a document did you speak Mandarin I learned a little bit while I was there but why were you in uh China I wanted to travel just okay got and also a little bit of work cuz in like China
00:50:31
Yamani/Lenathere's um cosplay Studios where they have themed rooms and you could uh dress up as specific characters and take pictures I picked a specific uh genin impact theme one in Shanghai that I
00:50:43
Yamani/Lenawanted to do and I did like three different characters from that video game and the person you're dating are they from China um the person I'm interested in is okay I see so
00:50:56
Brian Atlasokay you're it's complicated with a guy from China how long has it been complicated with said person uh it was recently I started talking to them maybe a month one month
00:51:09
Yamani/Lenaokay long long still reviewing the contract well I mean it didn't exactly start off that way but then we kind of I
00:51:16
Yamani/Lenaguess vibed in friend groups and oh the vibed yeah um longest relationship for
00:51:25
Brian Atlasand a half years four and a half years okay very cool what about you I am married I've been married we
00:51:34
Macygot well um we eloped in Arkansas in February and then we have a wedding like at home with all our friends and family how long have you been married since
00:51:45
Andrew WilsonFebruary oh since February okay sorry I missed that uh any kids or no no no kids okay gotcha all right uh Andrew what about you uh yeah I've been married for
00:51:58
Andrew Wilsonwith the same woman from most my adult life so how long have you guys been married um you're going to get me in trouble well you don't know uh a long
00:52:08
Brian Atlastime a really long time okay yeah 10 10 plus years yeah okay got it gotcha Okay cool so all right we got through we got through the relationship status so I'm
00:52:18
Brian Atlasgoing to do I'm going to read a couple of the chats that we have here we have uh John G can you ask the girls if a guy owning a gun is a positive deal
00:52:29
Brian Atlasbreaker or neutral PS PS shout out to far she's cool would be cool to see Destiny back on as well hey John G thank you so much man appreciate it uh yeah I think we'll uh we might actually be
00:52:40
Brian Atlashaving desney back on the show soon so uh yeah I'm going around the table starting with you uh maybe I can frame it or yeah I I mean
00:52:50
Brian AtlasI'll just use this question a guy owning a gun is a positive deal breaker or or neutral depends on his level of intelligence and self-control but
00:53:01
Haley Hermstechnically it's neutral technically neutral okay mhm gotcha what about you I would say neutral I think whether or not you want to own a gun is one thing but I
00:53:12
Haley Hermsthink everyone should know how to use one in case one comes into your hands so I would say it's not negative or positive maybe if he owned too many guns
00:53:22
Haley Hermsbecause my father was in the NRA and knew how to build guns from scratch and then he tried to like murder I don't know if I can say that actually just some crazy happened you can say it wait you're he tried to murder um he
00:53:34
Haley Hermstried to have me murder him and like my best friend we like almost all died uh wait he he tried to murder you he put a gun in my hand to have me try to kill him and was like holding my hand with
00:53:45
Haley Hermsthe gun in his head and his head that's like a long he's like yeah we don't if if that's a sensitive subject we don't oh it's not sensitive like I I don't I don't give a how were you if feel
00:53:55
Haley Hermswhen I was 17 when this happened and so I grew up around guns like all my family like all they they you know come from Wisconsin Michigan Indiana you know they're hunting they all the whole thing
00:54:07
Haley Hermsso it was never something I was like oh my God as I got older it wasn't so appealing I think we should have gun rights but I don't think we like guns need to disappear but um so I think it
00:54:19
Haley Hermsgets concerning when it's like here's my 45 gun collection of different guns and like then I think we're like okay far what about you I think it's a positive I want to get a gun but
00:54:32
Yamaniif he makes it his whole personality then I would say it's negative fair fair what about you yeah um I mean I do have a license to own a gun so I know how to use guns my dad Tau me how to use guns
00:54:43
Yamanibut obviously if someone's like a murderer I don't think I'd feel comfortable with them having a gun well would you date a let's maybe go around the table on this would you date a murderer technically if you murdered
00:54:54
Andrew Wilsonsomeone in self-defense you're technically still a murderer so that's not no you wouldn't be a murderer so murder would be the unjustified taking of a life with so if it's