Feminist CRIES And WALKS OFF When Asked "Define Misogyny"?! REVENGE By SEX?! | Dating Talk #109

Date: 2023-10-16

Duration: 5h 27m

Guests

Brian Atlas

RRachel (DT109)>

AAriel (DT109)>

YYasmin (DT109)>

BBecca (DT109)>

VViolet Brandon >

MMadison (DT115)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_00TTS Reader(audience)

SPEAKER_01TTS/Clip(audience)

SPEAKER_02Violet(guest)

SPEAKER_03Nick(audience)

SPEAKER_04TTS/Clip(audience)

SPEAKER_05Brian Atlas(host)

SPEAKER_06Ariel(guest)

SPEAKER_07Yasmin(guest)

SPEAKER_08Becca(guest)

SPEAKER_09Rachel(guest)

SPEAKER_10Madison(guest)

Key Moments

Key MomentViolet reveals she left her management company (nudies) in 2023, losing access to her 13M Instagram follower account which was technically owned by the manager. Now goes by her real last name Brandon.

“I've been with them since I was 18 and they put me on all of my accounts... I wanted to move on... I had a Instagram account with 13 million followers yes I did and but it wasn't yours”

Key MomentViolet confirms she has made 7 figures in at least one year from her adult content career and owns multiple properties.

“seven figures yeah we could say... have you in any year did you ever make seven figures yes”

QuoteViolet on reconciling Catholic faith with adult content career: "We're in a broken world and I was kind of born into that... I'm just a product of my surroundings."

“we're in a broken world and I was kind of born into that... I'm just a product of my surroundings as I grew up”

Key MomentRachel reveals her high school ex stole and totalled her car, then framed her with police. He had taken her keys under pretense of charging his phone.

“they had my keys little did I know that they were actually going to drive my car they went to get McDonald's into a waste management truck”

Key MomentRachel reveals the same ex faked his own death to try to win her back — had a friend call saying he was unresponsive in hospital.

“he had his friend call me and tell me that the nurses said that he wasn't going to make it and he was unresponsive”

Key MomentRachel reveals the same ex pulled a knife on her at his house, nicked her finger. She escaped by distracting him with sex.

“he pulled knife on me... he just kept repeating it and like why didn't you leave... I had sex with him so yeah it's okay”

QuoteYasmin says feminism and career-focus taught to women is a "mind virus": "I do think it's a mind virus and that's what I was taught in school and college."

“I do think it's a mind virus and that's what I was taught in school and college”

QuoteRachel says about her sex work experience: "I realized — what would my dad think — that's like sounds dumb." Moment of self-reflection.

“I kind of realized oh in the long run like this isn't going to be good for me... what would my dad think like sounds dumb”

Key MomentRachel reveals she had sex with a man out of spite after he called her a derogatory name at Chabad. She laughed during the encounter and he kicked her out afterward.

“I went over there... cuz I was just talking to my sister about how I should be using those... he got kind of I could tell very uncomfortable”

QuoteViolet says she would stop adult content and have as many children as her future husband wants: "I'll pump out as many babies as my man wants me to pump out."

“I'll pump out as many babies as my man wants me to pump out when I get to that place in my life”

OtherBrian asks Violet to say she supports "Big Labia Matters" (#BLM) — his satirical nonprofit. She says it into camera with raised fist.

“I support big Labia matters”

Key MomentRachel reveals she performed oral sex for money via Craigslist on two occasions ($129 and $100) — a man who initially advertised a "poolside catering" gig.

“he paid 50 to 75 for an interview in person with potential for you to make more... I made like 129 and then 100”

ControversyRachel cries and walks off after Brian asks her to define "misogyny." She called the panel misogynistic after a viewer donation told her to abandon feminism. Could not define the word, became visibly upset, said "I'd like to go home," and left despite Brian trying to keep her talking.

“you guys are all just like really misogynistic... I don't know I don't like this... I mean no I'd like to go home”

QuoteBrian frustrated after Rachel leaves: "I literally asked her how she defined a word she used" — defending asking her to define misogyny as a completely reasonable request.

“I literally asked her how she defined a word she used... I was trying to understand her position”

QuoteBrian's end-of-show vent about talent flaking: 10 flakes, stalker calling police before show, talent coordination burning him out, disrespect for people who flew/drove in. "The show is literally sucking the life out of me."

“I'm working 80 hours a week on the show I'm dealing with a bunch of behind the scenes... the show is literally sucking the life out of me”

Topics Discussed

Guest Introductions

Brian introduces show; lists 10 flakes/no-shows by name. Guests introduce themselves: Rachel (21, UCSB biopsychology), Ariel (23, paralegal/aspiring attorney), Yasmin (32, sales), Becca (29, medical aesthetics sales), Violet (23, adult content creator — formerly Violet Summers), Madison (18, SBCC/Whatever Podcast staff). Violet discusses leaving her management company and losing her 13M Instagram account.

Violet's OnlyFans Career and Catholicism

Extended discussion of Violet's adult content career: started at 18, primarily solo, some girl-girl. Left nudies management in 2023 and lost 13M Instagram account. Makes 7 figures; owns multiple properties. Goes to Catholic church with grandma; had confession. Family knows and is supportive. Reconciling faith with profession.

Relationship Status Round

Each guest describes current relationship status and history. Rachel: single, 4-5 people she is ignoring. Ariel: single 5 months (Christian, virgin, purity ring, no men in picture). Yasmin: single, celibate until right person. Becca: single 1+ year, FWB with ex. Violet: single since 17, all relationships tied to content/work. Madison: in relationship (~1 year, boyfriend Frankie).

Feminism vs Traditionalism Debate

Central debate of the episode. Becca identifies as partly feminist (equal pay/Independence) but also wants traditional relationship. Yasmin is firmly traditional: career focus is a "mind virus" from school, women's purpose is nurturing/family. Rachel is pro-feminist. Violet and Madison lean traditional. Brian argues non-traditional women want traditional men but the two are incompatible. TikTok video reaction: liberal woman who wants traditional treatment from a non-conservative man.

Rachel's Relationship Horror Stories

Brian reads from Rachel's pre-show notes. Stories include: ex stole and totalled her car then framed her, faked his own death, pulled a knife and she escaped by offering sex; open relationship that was only open on boyfriend's end; slept with drug dealer for $129 and $100 via Craigslist; obsessive stalker who printed coloring pages and showed up at her window with a new friend; simp ex who bought a puppy at her joking request and nearly got a restraining order.

Revenge Sex / Getting Back at the Person Who Called You a Bad Name

Rachel reveals she slept with someone out of spite after he called her a derogatory name at Chabad. Matched him on Tinder a year later, went over, had sex, laughed at the condom moment, told him horror stories afterward, and he kicked her out.

Racial Preferences in Dating

Round-table on racial preferences. Ariel: prefers white men, dated black men before but happier since switching. Becca: prefers white men. Yasmin: same race (Persian) preferred but not exclusive. Violet: no preference (last partner was Asian). Madison: attracted to white men (brunette, brown eyes, thick eyebrows); first two partners were Asian.

Height Preferences

Round-table on height requirements. Becca (5'7"): 5'6" minimum, 5'10"+ preferred. Yasmin: above 6 feet preferred. Madison (5'2"): 5'6"+ preferably. Violet (5'0" inferred): not a size queen; high school BF was 5'5". Brian: women's height must start with 4 (jokingly about preferring petite women).

Sugar Daddies, Sex Work, and OnlyFans

Discussion of sugar daddies (Becca had one unintentionally — her spineless ex). Violet's OnlyFans: someone tipped her $5,000 in a night. Violet on weirdest requests: scat (declined), peeing in nature (has done). OnlyFans content restrictions discussed. Whether OF girls simp for men to compensate for their work.

Firearms Ownership

Round-table: would you date someone who legally owns a firearm? Yasmin says yes (protection). Becca: yes (ex took her shooting, changed her view). Violet: yes, owns two guns herself. Madison: yes.

Rachel's Walkoff — Misogyny Debate

Viewer donation tells Rachel to abandon feminism. Rachel calls the panel "misogynistic." Brian asks her to define misogyny. Rachel becomes upset, cannot define it, starts crying, and leaves the show at ~3:43. Post-walkoff discussion: Brian frustrated (was just asking for a definition), Yasmin says it was Rachel's first time facing consequences of her actions, Madison says keeping her crying would not help.

After-show Discussion Topics

Topics after Ariel and Rachel left: love and whether it's necessary for long-term relationships; deal breaker if guy doesn't perform oral sex; most attractive hobbies; would you date a trans person; immigration and 50/50 split debate; Grim Reaper hypothetical (sacrifice yourself or spouse); Alpha/Beta male theory; reactions to streamers Asmongold and xQc Instagram profiles; Violet invited back for Tuesday show.

If a Guy Gets a Girl Pregnant

Brian asks: what do you say to a guy who got a girl pregnant but doesn't want the kid? Panel: step up, take responsibility, use protection in future.

Pro-life / Pro-choice Round

Brief round-table. Becca: pro-life. Yasmin: pro-choice politically but personally pro-life. Violet: keeping private. Madison: goes back and forth.

Wrongful Conviction Loyalty Test

Brian asks: if your boyfriend/husband was wrongfully convicted, how long would you wait? Violet: forever (would be like military wife). Becca: yes, 10+ years. Yasmin: forever. Madison: yes.

Grim Reaper Hypothetical

Brian asks: Grim Reaper says take your life or your husband's — who do you choose? Yasmin: herself. Violet and Becca: themselves (strategic reasoning about husband fighting the Reaper). Brian debates whether self-sacrifice or survival is more "Alpha."

Transcript

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Beccaum yeah it is I think it is hard cuz I growing up in a very more

Beccatraditional um setting and then trying to want to just seeing it I guess it kind of comes down to seeing it not work out with my my parents it's like okay

Brian Atlasthey did the traditional route and it still didn't work so they're divorced yeah okay yeah it's not clear to me if they're divorced because they were traditional versus other reasons but go ahead I was going

Yasminto say that video sounds so contradictory like it doesn't make sense you can't have one and then want the other I think she just answered her own question in the video though so it's like you want him to be traditional but

Madisonyou can't do it doesn't make sense shees deserve that obviously naturally traditional people are more conservative and stuff but she said literally that

Madisonshe wasn't willing to be a traditional life and Homemaker so sucks to suck sucks to suck look if you're feminist you're independ independent woman start

Beccapaying for first AIDS problem solved right yeah are you going to are you going to start offering to pay for first AIDS probably not

Beccaum uh I can give it a shot I can you seem deeply disturbed by the idea of paying for the first date yeah um I mean

Brian Atlasif I'm going to walk and do my talk then comes down to it then I should be go find a nice soy boy who paints or some

Brian AtlasM and uh yeah yeah okay although I do think like there's such a there is such a pressure

Brian Atlaspressure now on men that men are even starting to and have actually have been

Brian Atlasproviding for feminist women so like you will find like what in my opinion are simps basically um who are still

Brian Atlasgoing to pay for you even though you're super feminist and super non-traditional I'm not saying there's hey it's your choice but I just

Brian AtlasI don't like this idea of men being traditional men with non-traditional women it just doesn't compute for me it does not make any sense MH so you're

Brian Atlassaying that it would have to be traditional men with traditional women and then that kind of non-traditional men with non-traditional women that to keep things that seems like exactly but

Brian Atlaswouldn't it make sense don't wouldn't a traditional man want a tradition traditional woman I think the differential here is that you have non-traditional women who want

Brian Atlastraditional men but it's not going to there's not there's enough traditional women I well that's kind of a tough one but traditional men want traditional

Brian Atlaswomen MH I don't think they want non-traditional women non-traditional women clearly see the benefit dating wise to dating traditional men leading

Brian Atlasprovisioning protecting Etc m i I'm actually I'm curious what are the benefits of dating a non-traditional man

Rachelmhm you can walk all over them yeah maybe I don't know um would don't you walk more over like a traditional man like you're really just like

Yasminsqueezing out the goods you know but traditional man's like a leader so you're not going to like be yes non-traditional man there's not they

Violetdon't like put the frame of respect there yeah like some guys are so nice you know and like they'll go along with everything but and they're nice but I would never get with a guy like that

Violetbecause I just need you to be you know I I'm the nice one and I go along with everything I need you to be like no we're drawing the line here you know MH so I definitely think traditional men

Brian Atlascan get taken advantage of can get played certainly so um yeah Nick can you pull up ttch really quick I want to shout out uh twitch people guys go to twitch.tv/ whatever drop us a follow in the prime sub yo

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Brian Atlasone steo thank you for the prime much appreciated thank you man go uh drop us a follow in the prime sub if you have one all right moving on to a different topic here we have

Brian AtlasRachel I have a lot of personal experience in regards to relationships and sexual activity yes and you provided and I thank you for providing this you got a long list here and I'm trying to give you prompts and

Brian Atlasyou can tell us the full cliffnotes version uh one of your exes total a car took your car and total it what happened there give us a short version if you can

Rachelokay short version uh I was in high school they had my keys little did I know that they were actually going to drive my car they went to get McDonald's into it into a waste management truck

Racheland then they ubered me there um from my school and then told the police officers that I did it even though I didn't cuz they didn't have a license or a permit and yeah and then that was the end of

Rachelthe relationship uh and really expensive especially since I had already total two cars in high school so yeah okay um you

Rachelsaid that the same dude who he did he steal your car or he just borrowed it I would say steal cuz like he wasn't allowed to drive it and he had taken it

Racheltechnically stolen it before without me knowing um yeah he told me he needed to charge his phone in my car which I don't

Brian Atlasknow why I believe that sure um this same guy you said that he faked his own death yes to try to get me back yes get

Rachelyou back yes so after the whole car accident situation he I don't even know how but he went to like the emergency room I don't think he actually had any

Rachelemergencies but then he like posted a picture of it and then he had his friend call me and tell me that the nurses said that he wasn't going to make it and he

Rachelwas unresponsive and so I'm sitting there freaking out um and then all of a sudden I get bombarded by him and yeah I

Racheldon't know I don't know why that would fix things things there's more there's more he tried to stab you yeah that was

Rachelalso after the fact too after what fact oh after him crashing my car okay I guess I what did he try to stab you with a spork no a knife a knife I went over to his house he wanted to talk it out

Racheland he kept being like Oh come sit next to me and I was like no you have a knife and he's like no no I don't he's like do you see a knife and I was like No And he was like so then sit there and then he pulled knife on me so yeah that's

Brian Atlasthat so he was UN he like he just had a knife like he did he actually make a stabbing motion to try to stab you uh yeah and this sounds terrible but I like

Rachelwas it a butter knife no no it like nicked my finger fortunately nothing you got a little cut okay yeah he just kept like yelling I want to stab you so like that was he kept yelling he wants to stab you yeah but it was fine I didn't

Rachelget stabbed you but you stayed there how many times did he say he was going to stab you how long I don't know he just kept repeating it and like why didn't you leave he kept trying to stab

Rachelyou what the how were you like were you like fighting him off like oh I dodged it because like I don't know I was pushing unfortunately I think he knew if he did stab me there'd be

Rachelconsequences so I think so he was like fake stabbing you no I think it was like he really wanted to but also like part of him may have been holding back I mean

Rachelum but yeah I got out of it cuz I had sex with him so yeah it's okay what did he propose that or did you propose that idea no I just found that

Rachelthat's like a really sneaky way of getting out of things those guys so you proposed it yikes so were you like I'll have sex with you if you don't stop me that's a

Brian Atlaslittle no not exactly it's just like you you kind of distract them and then you can kind of get I mean that's just I mean sounds like a lifetime that's a

Brian Atlasreally up that's crazy situation uh okay uh so he stole

Brian Atlasyour car totaled it faked his own death but you still went over to his house like what were what was were you you I assume you were broken up yeah I had

Racheljust gone over to his house um because he wanted to get stabbed no cuz he wanted to make it make it up me like talk about things with his penis no like about make it how would he make it up to

Madisonyou by that was him being seductive he wanted to talk about things to get her into his house so he could yeah also cuz he was going to owe me a lot of money we took him a small

Rachelclaims court cuz he never paid for it but paid for the car yeah but in the state of Colorado you cannot get charged with negligence as a minor so he locked

Brian Atlasout it's okay that sounds terrible uh very toxic relationship through and through you said he was your best friend's ex so

Brian Atlaskarma's a he was your best friend's ex so Karma's you got revenge on your best friend no I would say like

Brian Atlasthat whole relationship was karma for like getting with my best friend's ex cuz oh karma karma in your direction okay because it was your best friend's

Rachelex yeah that's pretty a move you know that's not really that great this was in high school you said mhm my junior year your best friend

Rachelmhm what is this like a small town or something there were no other men that could stab you I mean no like I don't know it just kind of happened plenty of men who would be happy to stab you I mean I'm trying to I can find you one

Brian Atlastonight are you into the stabbing thing is that what it is no some girls have like a knife Kink it's like kind they want a knife held to them it's weird don't ask yeah not me not me um trying to keep everything brief here uh when

Rachelthey were dating he bought a turtle the turtle ended up going into my possession um I absolutely hated the guy for a really really long time but the turtle

Rachelthe turtle is the turtle still alive and kicking no he took the turtle and then sold it for a cat valid I don't know

Brian Atlasbasically out of anything I must s for pets so that was like easy so okay but it was your best friend's ex so wait they had broken up and then you got with

Rachelhim or did you steal him from her oh no it was like it was like months later they aru um but you're you were her best

Rachelfriend MH did she not tell you any crazy stories about this dude um no cuz like they never really had that kind of stuff like most of their interactions were at school and them screaming at each other

Brian Atlasbut I mean that sounds pretty bad yeah I already wouldn't pay attention so yeah that wasn't a red flag for you that they were having yelling matches in high school before going to Fourth period bio

Rachelclass I mean I don't know I was in high school you don't really know all that much I mean I think even in high school like people yelling at each other is pretty

Brian Atlasunhealthy so that was that was like the thing that turned you on like oh yeah he's going to abuse me ver is that kind

Brian Atlasof what was exciting about him no the verbal abuse no it was most I don't like you had pre- evidence

Rachelof his AB like verbal abuse so I mean yeah I mean maybe she was abusive too I mean yeah I don't know a lot that can be mutual I I would just say he's like good at manipulating so kind of

Brian Atlassound like a different person okay all right uh you went on a Tinder date and the man threw up all over your the back seat of your car and you didn't know this okay so this is disgusting but I

Rachelused same guy or different guy different guy different guy um there this was only a onetime thing um it's really disgusting but I used to have digestive

Rachelissues and so like driving would be hard cuz I'd throw up so you know I had a big Gul cup and this man our first date was to go get my flu shot and then

Rachelafterwards he insisted on hanging out my car and then you know wanted to move to the back and I don't know why but he just decided to Chuck the thing in my back seat and so I had to go home and

Rachelclean that Chuck the thing oh it was your own throw up yeah the big go cup of my

Brian Atlasvomit okay so I thought he was the one who it was you who threw up yes in the the back of your car tech indirectly but you said you

Brian Atlasdidn't even know this is you have two different throw up stories my bad I never proof read anything I said um you said you went on and Tinder Tinder date the man threw up all over the backseat of your car oh no and you didn't notice

Rachelhe threw my throw up in the back seat of my car and he didn't my throw up and the thing is is I don't know why he didn't notice and he just kept going and I was

Brian Atlaslike no you like you need to leave okay that's interesting um good to know we have uh what's the some guy picked me up from

Rachela club and you did what to his parents' bed pooped I know the internet's got to on me for this one but I shot in his bed so you know what it's it works

Rachelout it's fine why like you did it on purpose no I just like woke up and I thought he farted that wasn't the case he was nice though he like cleaned up and he played

Rachelthe guitar for me to try to make me feel better did you ever see him again yeah actually I did on his

Brian AtlasAccord okay um what was the the Spanish kid story with the Spanish class or whatever not the Spanish kid the Spanish class oh yeah so this guy in my Spanish class I

Rachelguess a bunch of girls thought he was really cute I didn't really think much of it and then and we went on a date and it was super awkward because he's like oh I haven't done this in a while and I was like like what do you mean like it's

Rachelokay um and he was like no like I actually haven't like hung out with someone outside of school uh he was like the last time I did was like a year and a half ago with my ex and then he was

Rachellike and before that it was like 2 years um and then we went like miniature golfing and it was super awkward cuz he was trying so hard to like flirt with me

Rachelbut also at the the same time kept like insisting that I didn't like him and all this stuff I hung out with the dude for like 3 hours and then when I had to go home for

Racheldinner he was like sitting there being like a you're trying to make excuses cuz you don't like me and it was weird he told me like the back of my head was hot when we were P putting he told me I was good

Rachelcompetition even though I'm really bad at pup putut but he said it's just cuz he usually goes alone um yeah no it's just a very awkward um

Brian Atlasexperience very sad okay so he's kind of insecure whatever okay uh let's see I'll come back to some of your other stories later uh let's

Arielsee you said you were unaware that you were in a love triangle and that was the pawn what does that mean um let's go back to Circle 2020 um I was dating this guy we met on

ArielInstagram um he ended up still being in contact with his ex I didn't know any of that until I did some digging because I don't like to assume until all I have my facts

Arielall straight so I don't do that um cuz that's crazy so found out about her um and I found out about her kind of like

Arielaccidentally I had posted um a tick tock challenge um it was Arana Grande's point of view and I posted it at like 6:00 she

Arielposted the same exact challenge at 6:01 so um I reached out to him I was just like are you still talking to her no response I went on her Instagram seen

Arielhis comment and sure enough they were still talking never spoke to him again few months later he said you know what Ariel I'm so sorry I never intended for

Arielthat to happen it was just all messed up and never spoke to him after that okay all right

Madisonyeah I hate when people use like I never intended for that to happen but you like did you did okay um you said that you

Brian Atlasyou've noticed a mass increase in interracial interracial relationships marriages dating and you said ever since I started dating outside my race I've been happier and that you've gotten a

Ariellot of backlash from it I enjoy it ignorance is bliss what do you mean um so I definitely have seen a lot more interracial marriages and relationships

Arielespecially in California um ever since I did start dating outside my race it's been pretty good I've enjoyed it but a lot of my

Arielfriends um kind of had some comments about that um and it doesn't really bother bother me at all because I mean if someone makes you happy then they

Brian Atlasmake you happy so do you what is your racial preference i' date white guys white guys

Brian Atlasokay Latino Latino guys no Asian no black guys No like is it you just have a preference for white men or you just

Arielwill not date those races I dated black guys before but ever since I switched to white guys definitely more happy okay became a preference you prefer the white

Madisonmen I do she prefers the white men why did your friends have a issue with you switching it up um

Arielyou realize you still have an airpod in I just noticed that bro though what you got do you have like someone sending I was having yeah they were like look at your face on look on your face at the screen the faces you making are

Arielso funny I kep hearing it your friends are on the line with you they're watching yeah why you oh they're talking to you no like one s a text she's like the faces that you're making are

Arielhilarious I didn't even realize I was making them but yeah okay what But to answer your question what's is that on your phone or in here yeah it's in my phone it's connected to my phone and

Arielthen to answer your question um I think whatever because they have their own preference and I guess they wanted me to do the same thing as them speak straight into the mic please like date within

Brian Atlasyour ownace technically yeah okay uh let's see uh wait who's Noel oh yeah that's one of the girls

Brian Atlasthat flaked I had notes on her but okay rip okay uh does anyone else here have a racial preference what about you do you prefer white people you prefer blazian

Brian Atlasdo you prefer wans what do you any any color of the rainbow okay what about you do you have a preference white guys black eyes Ian if I had to pick same race as

Yasminmyself but I'm not picky what which persan Persian but I'm not picky what what what race was your last

Brian Atlasboyfriend Persian before that Persian before that about two boyfriends hatrick persan oh

Beccajust okay all right Persian Persian okay that's super specific like okay cool hey cool uh yeah I prefer white guys wow

Brian Atlasracist over here what can I say such a racist Becca wow rude H yeah

Brian Atlasokay uh Violet what about you I don't have a preference what was your last oh yeah you haven't really had a

Brian Atlasboyfriend what was your last uh Ting uh Asian Okay

MadisonMadison uh oh she's about to get clipped I don't have a preference either I'm down for any color of row say it

MadisonMadison say it I I do find myself more attracted to white men specifically brunette brown eyes thick eyebrows so Franky just describing your boyfriend

Madisonyeah uh but but what about the Asian men um I wanted to say like I I was actually thinking about it the first two guys I ever like had like a little Ting with were Asian huh there you have it

Madisonfolks so I'm not racist there you have it I'm not self there you have it folks

Brian AtlasMaddie is walking back her her uh Asian hate self okay let's

Brian Atlassee here um what is your preference Brian my preference I'll date I'll date any race but I'd say I have a slight preference for uh white or Asian women

Madisonbut I'll date I'll date any race I don't really it's not a big thing for me did you have a response oh I was just going to ask like what

Brian Atlaswere all your past teams past I mean jeez where do I begin so many huh I mean I've dated a couple Asian women I've dated some white women

Brian Atlasuh I think that's specific enough I reckon let's see uh I mean I think's a little out of focus yeah it's fine she's in the corner

Brian Atlasover there it's okay um let's see so uh I'll bring it back to Rachel here let's see Rachel you were in an open

Brian Atlasrelationship which all fell apart when I slept with your Dr with your drug dealer and then your boyfriend got pissed because apparently the relationship was

Rachelonly open on his end yes um well I didn't know but I had taken his virginity and for him like that was very

Rachelimportant to him at the time I used to view sex as just an activity um and so we decided to have things open because it's going to be a long distance over the summer and I was very adamant

Rachelabout him being able to like sexually explore himself and I asked so many times to make sure he was good with it and he was fully on board but then I slept with someone and he said that that

Rachelwas unfair cuz it was unequal um and he expected it to only be on his side his exact reaction was I think I'm going to vomit Bas um but yeah

Madisonthat's why most open relationships fail though cuz it's never really communicated exactly how both of the People Want it and it's just

Rachellike it's never really fair I guess we tried to work it out I tried to like leave it open on his end because like I was really in love with him a lot um and

RachelI was fine with that but man kept blowing his chances he just kept like telling girls about me in the process of trying to them and I was like dude

Madisonno female wants to hear that um was it was it like a mutual decision that you would be open as well or you just talked

Rachelabout him being open well it was always kind of assumed and talked about that it'd be open both ways until that didn't work and so then I was open on his end

Rachelnot my end and then eventually I asked for equity and he wanted equality so he kind of mutually went other directions wait so just to be clear you

Brian Atlasstarted dating a guy it started open for the both of you mhm then he wanted to close it on your end yes you agreed to that correct

Brian Atlasyes and then you wanted to open it back up again yes cuz at that point um and then you slept with your drug dealer but

Rachelthen you said he got pissed oh no um so the thing is is like that's how we came up up with the like how I found out that apparently he always had assumed cuz like all of our conversations it sounded

Rachellike open on both ends that's when I found out he actually thought it was only open on his end is when I was honest about that and that was about 3 months into our relationship and then that was my longest relationship which went for 7 months and so like during

Rachelthose four months I was eventually kind of like I don't like like I don't know what you do with that you know okay um

Brian Atlasso distance you were in an open relationship this was your longest relation this was a seven-month relationship that you referenced you slept with your drug dealer and we

Racheltalking marijuana what are we talking here um the goodies what's that the stuff you can't get at the dispo or the grocery store Molly what do we the gas

Rachelstation uh I've actually never tried Molly I'd like to um mostly just like shrooms um I have gotten weed from him before meth no not

Brian Atlasmeth I'm notra it's like the hippie drugs you know are you a hippie I've been called that many times psychedelics yeah okay all right uh you said you had a guy

Brian Atlasobsessed with you you felt like you were a babysitter you told him to go make friends he comes to your house banging on the window to show me that he made a

Brian Atlasfriend some random girl he had just met definitely lowkey stalking or just lots of stalking behavior and that one's kind of whatever I don't know if you've

Rachelcaught onto a trend but I um really picked the cream of the crop um the cream of the crop yeah I don't know why I've been told that I just find like the weirdest human beings and I'm like yes

Rachelum but yeah so I graduated high school in 2020 so I started University in 2020 online um and my English teacher told me that I should make friends so someone in

Rachelone of my classes she like hooked us up and so we were just like talking virtually we kind of liked each other um things started getting really excessive and then when we both came out to school

Rachelit was like way too way too much uh that was when I had to tell him to make friends and him liking to show me these friends and also like I'd be trying to

Rachelstudy and I'd have to print him out coloring pages so he'd like let go of my arm uh yeah it was very uncomfortable okay

Brian Atlasuh you have so many more I'll do one more and then we'll come back to some of your other dating anecdotes later but you said that there was a different guy who was obsessed with you and would

Rachelliterally do anything for you he was your yes your words yes uh what happened there what's the story there that's when you could talk about uh

Rachelproviders someone overly trying to provide for you out of anything um also that's the thing too is like his his whole thing was like oh because since you don't want it it makes you more

Racheldeserving of it and everything just got really excessive it's yeah it's like if I like I made a joke once I was like can you get a puppy cuz I want to play with

Rachelthe dog literally that night started looking at dogs ended up buying my favorite breed of dog um okay he bought

Brian Atlasyou dog what else yes um bought me a lot of things how much what was he like a sugar daddy type of thing or um but you

Brian Atlasguys were dating SL sleeping together yeah yeah um he was your though why was he how was he your I don't know like you did you boss him around

Racheltype like he had no spine he was spineless I would say he was spineless I was never trying to like take advantage of him um but it's like he tried so hard

Rachelto like almost purchase my love and like he recognized that so like that's like literally what what kind of made him my it's like oh for example I crack a

Racheljoke about wanting a dog and he goes out and gets a dog um it's like oh I'm going abroad so he's going to buy tickets to surprise me even though I don't want him

Rachelcoming explicitly you said you almost got the restraining order against him yeah for that same reason um just because a lot of his other behaviors were extremely

Brian Atlasunhealthy okay yeah all all right we'll come back to some of your other anecdotes in a little bit um we were talking about vulnerability a little earlier I don't know if I want to swing

Brian Atlasback on that um maybe later we'll talk about vulnerability

Yasminum Yas is it Yasmin Yasmin Yasmin what do you want to talk about men being men and woman being woman I don't know what what do you mean

Madisonby that gender rules what do you mean are you looking for a man yes so you're like actively searching are you doing the

Madisonapproaching or are you I'm not doing the approaching so you're just waiting for a man to come to

Brian Atlasyou yeah basically don't you have like okay yeah mean is there anything that you want to talk about

Yasminnot

Brian Atlasparticularly oh these girls they drive hours to come be on the show these girls asked to be on the show Brian I want to be on the show they have nothing to

Yasminsay Okay um nothing you don't have a hot take anything I mean gender rules that's when my hot take wom to be women okay men be the providers and

Yasminwomen do what what they're what they're supposed to women do what they're supposed to yeah Rachel what do you feel about that do you disagree with her women being women and men being men yeah

Brian AtlasI vote Being Human why don't you guys argue for a little bit let's see that let's I'm going step back I'm going to drop the lead of the conversation go ahead okay this might be like I hope

Rachelthis isn't like an offensive question but like my issue with as we put it my um he was Persian so he was constantly telling me like no like this is okay cuz I'm Persian he's like

RachelPersians like to shower people with gifts I don't know if that has affected or influenced you with the flaunting of resources if that makes

Yasminsense I'll put it in well the way I see it as a woman what makes us happy is like or like personally for me what makes me happy is being in my true Essence like I I'm in my 30s in my 20s I

Yasmintried doing like the boss babe like make money and I'm like okay career like focus on that that did not make me happy I'm like okay what is really going to make me happy what's my purpose it's like oh having kids and conceiving and

Yasminlike taking care of my kids my family like devoting myself to my husband and for me my Essence as a woman and I feel like most women their Essence

Rachelthat's what makes us happy is like being able to nurture and conceive and procreate also what does it mean to devote yourself to a man to take care of

Yasminmy man take care of my kids to nurture them to nourish them to make sure they're healthy and happy to like serve something other than myself what do you think is the root of

Yasminthe issue that women are turning away from those specific feminine qualities now well when I think of myself when I was in my 20s I was like oh you need to focus on a career you need to focus on making money and that's the most important thing that's what's going to

Yasminmake you happy and that's what I learned in school like after you graduate college go get a job go make money like you need like to climb that corporate ladder in order to be happy and there

Yasminwas no nothing else telling me otherwise I was like oh this is what I have to do to be happy what about men like what do you think

Yasminis yeah just that same question but for men why do you think men aren't masculine anymore I think same thing like School programming TV Society has

Yasminlike program them programmed them to be a certain way and then there's like the whole thing we're talking about tox toxic masculinity it's like they're like being programmed to be like oh

Yasminbeing masculine is toxic and it's okay to be emotional it's okay to like I don't know as a man to like

Yasmincry or you can go 50/50 on a date like why should a man pay things like that so men are like why should I be doing this when

Brian Atlasbecause women want to hyphenate their last names exact they want to not hold up their end of the traditional gender bargain yeah then women try to be leaders in a

Yasminrelationship and be like oh this has to be this way and it's like there can't be two leaders in something and I feel like it can be frustrating for a man too I think that

VioletSociety has really like you know they're they've ad for women to be strong independent like even my mom's generation you know she had kids really

Violetyoung and she always told me like never depend on a man just make sure you know you don't get pregnant young and you'll be fine just focus on your career like I was always told that even my stepdad he

Violetwould be like if I were to like go out with a nice richer rich guy or something or I just wanted to surround myself with good people but he would be like oh you're a gold digger you know and so

Madisonit's like you're not you women are just really like pushed away from being traditional and it's sad I feel like

Madisonit's okay to encourage women to uh go to school blah blah blah focus on themselves it but it I think the problem with it now is that they're taking it to a certain extent where they think they

Yasmindon't need a man I AG in the long run that they think they can survive without a man be happy but then when they're like 40 50 60 and have no kids and they're just alone like

VioletI don't think they are happy yeah like it's cute INX in the city but you know you get like way older it's like okay what are you doing Rachel go ahead sounded like you wanted to come in oh I was going to say like that's the

Rachelsame thing with men like aren't men like all sad like I swear most guys I talk to it's like oh what's your like long-term goal and it's like I want to have a house and I want to have a wife and I

Rachelwant to like support them and I'm like that's your only goal and aspiration like I feel like beautiful amaz but I mean I think everyone like really cherishes like relationships and

Rachelstuff and I think it's great like obviously no one wants to be alone but but why else are we here on Earth if it's not to be with someone else and

Brian Atlasprocreate and have kids yeah I'm not arguing that well you quite literally are arguing against it well what one thing that's

Brian Atlasinteresting to me is when men make a lot of money they think great I can provide for my family I can provide for my wife I can provide for my kids when women

Rachelmake a lot of money they think I'm a strong independent woman that doesn't need a man I think men tend to be more afraid of being alone when they're older than

Brian Atlasmen or than women are I feel like most women kind of have a little bit more maybe confidence I'd say well well it's easier for it's it's pretty easy for

Brian Atlaswomen to get men so maybe that's where that confidence is rooted in but I mean there's there is a different biological reality where as a woman if you want to have

Brian Atlaschildren you can age out of that whereas men I mean obviously if you're if you're 55 years old as a dude it's going to be harder for you to like find a woman who's younger who wants to have

Brian Atlaskids but you can technically as a guy at least from a purely biological level have children into your 70s and ' 80s which is just a biological impossibility

Rachelfor women mhm but you're also saying like as you get older like your goals have shifted a little bit right if I'm understanding correctly well it's because I was like I fell for the Mind

Yasminvirus of like when you're like be a boss babe focus on your career make money and I do think it's a mind virus and that's what I was taught in school and college and into the mic please now I'm my 30s

Yasminwhen I was 20s there wasn't content telling like women oh this like being in your feminine energy this is what's going to make you happy the only thing that was available was like go be independent and make money and I tried

Yasminthat and I thought that's what was going to make me happy now in my 30s I'm like oh wait I'm like 30 I want to have kids and my biological clock is ticking okay technically yeah you could also call that your third stage of life

Rachelum if you break it up into stages cuz like through their 20s like yeah you really want to work towards the those things and then as you get older like yeah I guess what I'm saying is like but it's not fulfilling as a woman like focusing on CER money it's not going to

Brian Atlasbe fulfilling at the end of the day I don't think that's fulfilling for anyone like not men either so what is you said that having a family and children is not fulfilling but you all said career is

Rachelnot fulfilling so what is fulfilling uh self- satisfication that's not a word uh just like you have to be content with yourself it's like I see it as one day you want to become a tortoise like

Brian Atlasyou're wise and your content um huh what the hey I I can get down with that tortoise have you seen Dragon Ball Z Master roshi what do you think about that like he lives on an island

Brian Atlasall alone he's got like a house like super powerful beings come to visit him every once in a while to train and and he does have like a tortoise shell on his back agree or disagree can you play like the H for him

Brian AtlasI don't know what this is I only control that sorry Nick cannot uh what what do you think about collateral IED uh debt obligations collateralized debt

Rachelobligations are you talking about financial or like when you're investing relationship no like subprime subprime mortgage loans I'm only 21 man I'm like oh okay I don't know anything about I'm

Brian Atlasgoing to do a couple chats here Nick can you pull up twitch really quick guys go to twitch.tv whatever drop us a follow drop us a prime sub yo Jan Z thank you for the tier one man appreciate it okay so

Brian Atlaswe have Josh Berg chat to Violet where's the I am a gorilla shirt oh I wore that into the mic if you can I should have wore that sorry should have wore that

VioletI'm just going to really put this Rod up on me that's better right wait what and this yeah you can straddle it proper it's not very ladylike but feels

Brian Atlasgood okay we have this is my

Brian Atlascarace what's up what's going on back there you have to

Brian Atlasgo you

Brian Atlasokay bro these people asked to be on the show like they don't okay um you should have let us know that you couldn't stay for the whole thing but okay um this is

Brian Atlasmy carface Canadian 100 stop talking to her please I don't know if this wasn't we need to I think we got to move people over a little bit um do we move Violet

Brian Atlasthere I think do we move no that doesn't make sense I think we move you in that seat okay and I'll adjust the yeah just move just take that seat that's fine um yeah I mean she's being rude

Brian Atlasanyway she was like on her phone and so whatever um all right uh Hearn thank you man the first woman is making absolutely zero sense the reason she can't articulate her beliefs is because she's been told and influenced what to

Rachelthink so when she's pressed on why she believes what she believes she also tries to move it on to someone else okay a I already know I make like zero logical sense most of the time when

RachelI speak so like I not even mad about this um also I think especially at the beginning it's like it's hard cuz like I do study biopsychology so they talk a

Rachellot about this and I'm not trying to be like Little factoy Nerd and also some of my arguments I guess are not appropriate for

RachelYouTube um also I'm also like very surprised and taken about by a lot of your guys's responses um what do you mean by

Brian Atlasthat I don't I don't know this is just um you've never heard a dissenting opinion in your life basically I have okay just usually I feel like I'm more convincing you're

Brian Atlasmore convincing oh are you I I hope um yeah I don't know I really don't okay all right that's fine Bender the

Brian Atlasoffender ladies do you think that women deserve their dream man if they have made bad decisions in their past and have a bit of an attitude like I feel like that's so

Beccatargeted as in the ladies have made the bad decisions in their past and have the attitude did

Madisonyou oh yeah she's gone oh she had it go oh do you think that women deserve their dream and if they made bad decisions it

Madisonit depends what you consider bad decisions what extent it's gone to uh have a bit of an attitude probably fix your attitude if you want the man

Yasminthat you dream of but I don't know that's like a very broad question it is yeah I would say Define what bad decisions means and I

Yasminassume that means being priscu and if they have a bad attitude that's probably like they probably feel entitled and if they they are who they attract so if they've like they're

Yasminentitled have a bad attitude that's what they're going to attract it's not going to be their dream man so if they want their dream man they have to change something it's very hard to say you deserve your dream man cuz I

Madisondon't think anyone is going to be your dream man like perfectly but I think yeah if they've fixed themselves a little bit and don't

Madisonhave an attitude yeah why do you ask that Bender the offender I mean for me it's like I made a lot of bad decisions not very good

Rachelabout making good decisions and like obviously I'd like to think that I deserve my dream man but I also know that my dream man and men that I have

Rachelloved in the past um because of the person I am and the decisions I've made I can't have them um and it's like you always want something you can't have so

Beccait's just working on yourself exactly did you respond to this

Beccaor no um um I I think you know everyone makes I mean I guess the same could be applied to a guy like does a guy deserve

Beccahis dream girl if he's made bad decisions and has an attitude so um yeah it's I guess it's I suppose for Bender

Brian Atlasthe offender we ought to define the terms okay so what are we talking about when it comes to bad decisions and what are we talking about dream men so uh here I mean perhaps a something

Brian Atlasthat makes sense to me is I'm trying to think of the criteria here and have she made bad decisions in their past so yeah let's say past of

Brian Atlaspromiscuity and she made a bunch of bad decisions in her past her dreamman I don't know what it depends what her dream man is she wants a night

Brian Atlasin shining armor to come rescue her after she's made a bunch of someone to provide and protect that's probably a dream man for most women provide and protect find out Oh I thought you said tax like they did their taxes for a

Brian Atlassecond I was like what all right um we have prais here Brian I've looked for the what this what sound bite that's on your soundboard but have had no luck thus far

Brian Atlaswhere can I find it is it from one of your videos any help would be greatly appreciated I want to make it my text notification sound thanks um it's uh

Brian AtlasI mean I just found it from a uh like a clip but I don't think you'll be able to find it from like one of those soundboard websites cuz like a lot of my soundboard things I just like got from

Brian Atlaslike not soundboard websites but like just funny things that I found on I mean some of them are soundboard but um yeah so fdg thank you for the Argentinian 500 ladies can you rate the

Brian Atlasrest of the panel oh wait I think before we do that we should go around ask the oh we should have done this before she left okay whatever um ask everyone

Rachelto rate their looks on a scale of one to 10 go ahead 10 10 sorry but this doll me out just rate your own look your own my own looks yeah like how I think I look

Brian Atlasyeah what what do you think you like your looks are on a scale of 1 to 10 depends on the day average so some days you're 10 other

Racheldays you're not yeah I well it sounded like you're about to say 10 no no no no I like I don't know can we skip me no just answer answer the question I I don't know the answer I

Beccadon't okay here we'll come back to you how about that go ahead um on average I'd give myself an approachable

Yasminseven okay what about you um 5.5 what Violet seven an eight I give myself a six what about

Brian Atlasyou probably like a five then it sounded like you wanted to say 10 but you wanted to hear our answers first so that you could maybe readjust

Brian Atlasit's like I don't think I'm a 10 oh okay okay um well we have this one from fdg ladies can you rate the rest of the panel 1 to 10 first on looks and then personality obviously know each other

Brian Atlasbut according to what you've heard so far I'd love it if you could justify your answer can you rate the rest of the panel 1 to 10 first on looks and then personality

Rachelum I don't know if they're open to it but I'll ask them do you want to rate all the girls and then looks personality sure okay go ahead I mean I can so far if you want to go ahead can I

Rachellike as a collective cuz like I feel like I know you guys all to like the same extent just individually just go okay individually I think you seem like a really cool sweet person and I think you're really pretty and I like the

Rachelpattern on your dress I think is a very nice choice um I really like your hair and your makeup you're also very pretty um and you also seem like wait you talking to

Rachelher now yes you didn't rate you just made gave her compliments I'll take it yeah and like you seem like you have a really bubbly no but she's one to 10 first on looks then

Rachelpersonality 10 and 10 10 and 10 um what about Violet over here 10 out of 10 honestly I I like you you seem like you got good confidence you're doing what

Brian Atlasyou do five six six okay um so Violet what's Violet she's a she's a 10 she's a 1010 yeah what's Lil uh I just called you Lily

Rachelwhat's Madison over here I mean 1010 I feel like I haven't heard you talk much but I would assume you got a good personality you seem cool all right I'm going to get okay what about

Rachelme I'm just kidding uh I don't want to answer this one I'm it's you're 10 out of 10 go ahead I don't care I don't know I feel like you've been making me angry good

Rachelyeah so I can feel myself boiling over here so like it's sus it's like can I just give you a squint eye can that be like a scale okay you dislike me like we get it

Beccaum okay go ahead I I do I have to do the ratings if you don't want to that's fine do do not want to I do not want to I'll

Madisonskip it too I feel like we're all going to lie about it violet yeah I'm skip I just like don't really know like it's hard to rape people when you don't know

Madisonwho they are come on you're ruthless Madison what just do you want me to do it fdg she's asking I don't want to do

Brian Atlasit can you rate the rest of the panel okay fine she doesn't want to do it um okay all right there you have it folks um wait can you rate US she said ladies okay I okay I'll rate you guys I'll just do

Brian Atlaslooks I don't know if I I don't know you guys well enough for personality um let's see you asked you asked asking you shall receive

um

Brian Atlas5 five

Brian Atlas6.5 the fake titties kind of give you negative points so I don't know it's seven that's what I gave myself seven thank you

Brian Atlasum I don't rate Madison because we have a professional working relationship so I give her a a thousand out of 10 not like in a simp way but in like

Brian AtlasI'm not going to give you my actual honest answer I could R you don't worry about it don't worry about it he accidentally called me Lily don't worry about it is Lily don't worry about

Brian Atlasit um okay let's see we have did we have another chat no we have this we have Ricky Marie if you're on the stream or podcast shouldn't you not have your headphones

Brian Atlasin um our her friends emotional support friends just seems rude I didn't even catch it till the very end there that she had her her uh headphone in um and I I saw that she was texting

Brian Atlaspeople towards the end there and I was just like all right whatever dude um she wasn't really contributing much anyway so it's so weird like a lot of people

Brian Atlasask to be on the show put me on Brian and they don't say I don't know um guys have to carry the

Brian Atlasconversation though it is what it is uh J note ncho Brian Ru panel tonight yep um dude we got we had so this is one of

Brian Atlasour we had what 10 flakes today yeah it's like the bro um uh rough panel tonight thanks for carrying the conversation it feels like

Brian Atlasa dating app in person where do decent average looking men meet women in the social climate I hit you up on the IG earlier today think about my offer uh oh is this like the financial assistant or

Brian Atlasthe uh you're like a financial planner or something uh thank you man for the uh streamlab donation um I do have a question where is a good place for if

Yasminsomeone's not on social media and social apps where does a woman meet a man these days I met my boyfriend at the beach nice Sunshine every day in the

Beccaworld in the outside world I feel like walk on the street yeah like doing hobbies and um activities I don't know like yeah you're still expecting men to take the initiative and approach

Madisonyou in all those situations though so you can ask a stranger out I wouldn't recommend it but you could do it why I like to be in my gender roles though I don't want to ask a guy out probably like just like she said like your activities like things you do say if

Madisonyou're if you're Christian you go to church a lot like you probably find someone at your church that you're more into that will have the same morals and values that you do and interests as well I mean there's probably def there's

Brian Atlasprobably still a feminine way to put yourself within proximity or V like with of a guy that you're interested in um I mean you can go about it very indirectly and unless the GU is

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