Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Charlie Kirk vs. Feminists & E-Girls! | Dating Talk #130
Date: 2024-01-29
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Charlie Kirk(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Aaron(guest)
SPEAKER_11Pixie (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_13Dina / Savannah (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Molly Little / Angel (mixed)(guest)
Key Moments
00:08:40
OtherCharlie Kirk reveals he waited until marriage for sex
“Charlie Kirk says waiting until marriage was 'the greatest decision of my life'”
00:12:42
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about her father relationship
“Charlie Kirk asks Molly if she has a good relationship with her father; Molly says she doesn't talk to him. Kirk: 'I'm not surprised.'”
00:31:45
OtherCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about porn addiction and compares it to drug dealing
“Kirk asks if porn is a drug, compares porn performers to drug dealers; panel pushes back strongly.”
00:52:10
OtherMolly Little says she would not quit porn for $1 million/year
“Charlie Kirk offers hypothetical $1M/year if she quit porn; Molly says no, she would still do it because she is an exhibitionist.”
00:57:28
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks panel 'What is a woman?'
“Kirk presses Pixie and Aaron for biological definition of woman; panelists give social constructivist answers. Kirk: 'There are zero genders, two sexes, and infinite personalities.'”
02:37:33
OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show
“Brian thanks Charlie Kirk; Kirk plugs TPUSA.com and The Charlie Kirk Show podcast. Kirk thanks show for being 'the most respectful' he's seen.”
03:18:30
OtherMolly Little's body count revealed from viral Twitter clip
“Brian reveals Molly's viral Twitter clip claiming body count over 100; Molly clarifies mostly from shoots, fewer than 10 off-camera civilians.”
03:20:15
OtherDina Snows reveals she hooked up with a trans woman (not knowing at first)
“Dina describes OF shoot with a trans woman where she did not know beforehand the person had male genitalia; briefly performed oral.”
05:55:10
OtherSelf-rating round begins
“Brian prompts Stiffler chat donation request: everyone rates their looks 1-10. Results: Sophia=9, Molly=10, Aaron<10, Dina=8, Brian=5.”
06:20:00
OtherDina Snows recounts hotel gangbang story
“Dina describes leaving a boring guy in hotel lobby to hook up with a sports coach and his manager — a foursome in sequence.”
06:21:00
OtherDina Snows discusses labiaplasty
“Dina shares she got a labiaplasty for cosmetic and physical discomfort reasons; asymmetry caused discomfort and she felt self-conscious while filming OF content.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:06
Introductions & Relationship Status
Guests introduce themselves; Brian asks about relationship status and longest relationships. Charlie Kirk introduces himself and shares marriage/family perspective.
00:06:40
Hookup Culture & Purpose of Dating
Charlie Kirk advocates dating with intent to marry; sex as sacred. Guests debate hookup culture, open relationships, and casual sex. Molly Little discusses porn and open relationship dynamic.
00:13:20
What Is Love — Definitions
Panel goes around table defining love. Greek words for love (philia, storge, eros, agape) introduced by Charlie Kirk. Discussion of fear of commitment.
00:32:40
Porn Addiction & Social Effects
Charlie Kirk argues porn is a social toxin with drug-like addiction; references 'Your Brain on Porn' by Gary Wilson. Panel debates regulation, age verification, and comparison to drug prohibition.
00:38:36
Political Orientation & Dating Across Party Lines
Guests reveal political orientations; debate whether they can date someone with opposing politics. Pixie's 20-minute date story. Gender divergence in political affiliation discussed. Charlie Kirk on value alignment in marriage.
00:54:24
Feminism — Definition & Debate
Aaron and Pixie identify as feminist; Charlie Kirk asks them to define it. Debate over equal pay, gender wage gap, and economic equality.
00:57:28
What Is a Woman — Gender Identity Debate
Charlie Kirk asks panelists to define 'woman' without circular definition. Debate on biological sex vs social gender construction. Trans rights, puberty blockers, trans kids, detransitioners, and gender dysphoria discussed at length.
01:52:00
Abortion Debate
Panel debates abortion rights. Charlie Kirk gives his pro-life position. Statistics on abortion rates. Aaron and others argue pro-choice positions.
02:37:33
Charlie Kirk Departs; Madison Joins
Charlie Kirk thanks the show, plugs TPUSA; leaves around 157min. Madison (Whatever Podcast staff) joins the panel. Andrew Wilson attempted call-in but mic cord snapped; never joined.
02:39:13
Dina Snows — AVN, Labiaplasty, Relationship Views
Dina discusses AVN convention experience, labiaplasty (medical + cosmetic reasons), sleeping through friend groups, hotel gangbang story, open relationship preferences, and difficulty with commitment.
03:16:40
Body Count Discussion
Molly Little's 100+ body count (mostly on-camera) discussed after viral Twitter clip. Panel debates whether body count matters for dating.
03:36:00
Orgasm Gap & Sexual Experience
Discussion on percentage of men able to make female partners orgasm. Orgasm gap, multiple orgasms, squirting, gooning/edging discussed.
05:55:19
Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)
Stiffler chat donation prompts self-rating round. Sophia: 9. Molly: 10. Aaron: less than 10. Dina: 8. Brian: 5. Panel debates delusion of self-rating 10.
06:03:50
Financial Dynamics in Dating — Provider Role
Sophia's story of supporting unemployed boyfriend. Debate on whether women should expect financial provision even when they earn more. Brian discusses provider role; plays TikTok "70k boyfriend" clip.
Transcript
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06:41:56
Aaronasked most people and you're asking me I think it certainly does because it's not like something like I'm short but I want a tall guy oh that's hypocritical of you because you can't control your height but if it's body count yeah that within your control so say if a girl had a
06:42:09
Dina / Savannah (mixed)really high body count and she doesn't want a man with a high body count is that is that the same thing or is it different because she's a woman I'm basically fpp well I would argue I would
06:42:21
Brian Atlasargue that there is a bit of a differential between men and women there and I think huh why why I would say most women generally speaking tend to care
06:42:31
Brian Atlasless about a man's body count then we're talking about a woman who does care even though she has a high body count herself if a woman has previously slept with a hundred men and she wants to date a
06:42:42
Brian Atlasvirgin that's 100% her prerogative I don't have an issue with it and I don't think it makes her a hypocrite okay now do I think most women who have slept
06:42:52
Aaronwith a hundred men would they would they prefer to date a man who's a virgin I don't think so I personally would not want to be lectured about my body count by somebody who themselves has high body
06:43:04
Aaroncount if they were telling me Aaron how dare you have slept with like this many number of people and I'm like you have a body count of 50 what the are you talking about yeah I would I would not want to hear it yeah your your argument
06:43:15
Pixie (mixed)is um basically well ien I haven't fully made my argument yet but go ahead my understanding is like oh no the argument is like oh no that's just what they're attracted to but at least from what I've noticed whenever guys talk about body
06:43:27
Pixie (mixed)count in general there is a moralistic reason attached so it's not just a simple oh I'm just attracted to this that's how be um it's no I think that type of behavior is bad but when I do it that type of behavior is suddenly okay
06:43:39
Brian Atlaswhich I don't think is consistent morally well I mean okay so to further expand on my point of in order to desire
06:43:47
Brian Atlasa trait in a partner need you also possess said trait I think we can all well I think we can all agree the answer to that is no you need not possess a
06:43:59
Brian Atlastrait in order to desire for example for example and I I know you went to the tall thing and that's something that I've said before however I there's much
06:44:09
Brian Atlasbetter examples for example a woman who wants I often hear women say they like men who can make them laugh who are funny need a woman be funny herself to
06:44:21
Brian Atlasdesire that in a partner and does it make her hypocritical if she's not funny to find funny men attractive I don't think so I don't think she's hypocritical if she wants a guy who's
06:44:33
Aaronfunny but she is not funny herself I feel like that's one of those things that I guess you could argue it's it's within your control to be funny or not but humor is one of those things that kind of like comes to you or it doesn't I don't think you can really teach humor
06:44:46
Brian Atlasso it's another one of those things that it may as well be an inate character how about this how about this um a and I can give a ton of other examples here a woman who wants a high who's attracted
06:44:57
Brian Atlasto high status men but she's not high status herself I'm sure you could agree that a lot of of women would absolutely love to be in a relationship with a
06:45:07
Brian Atlasprofessional athlete a m a professional musician an actor a lot of women have celebrity crushes for example I'm sure they would uh you know do quite a bit to actually secure these men as partners um
06:45:20
Brian Atlaswhether they can or not that's a different question um are they hypocritical for Desiring to date an exceptionally attractive or uh High status man despite their lack of
06:45:33
Brian Atlasstatus does it make them Hypocrites the problem is none of these are moralistic reasons so if a person was like Hey I want to but I'm not arguing at it on that level I'm I'm simply arguing in
06:45:43
Pixie (mixed)order to desire a trait in a person need you possess that trait and I think the answer is no no but the problem is that most people or most men who want a low body count are not saying it simply on
06:45:55
Pixie (mixed)the basis of oh I just Happ to be attracted they always assign it with a moralistic reason that that girles a whole promiscuous and that's bad for but I'm not that's to me that's totally irrelevant to me that's totally
06:46:06
Brian Atlasirrelevant it's not totally irrelevant because if we're looking if we're look if we're looking at the traits that people then why does it matter what do you mean then why does body count
06:46:16
Brian Atlasmatter what because you're saying like I retic but why is it why does it matter well there's a whole bunch of reasons why it might matter what's one paring okay well I mean there's studies that
06:46:28
Aaronhave come out that for example the more uh premarital sexual part think anyone is basing their that preference off a study Brian don't be delal come hold on hold on there's studies that show that
06:46:41
Brian Atlasthere's a greater greater likelihood of infidelity there's a greater likelihood of reporting relationship dissatisfaction there's a greater likelihood of a breakup of a relationship or of a marriage the more
06:46:51
Brian Atlaspremarital sexual partners you've had there's also an EVO pych bi uh evolutionary psychology biological reason when it comes to paternity uncertainty a woman who's more and this
06:47:03
Brian Atlasis almost something that's innate in men a woman who's promiscuous if she's uh sleeps with a lot of men uh there's a chance for example that she might the
06:47:13
Brian Atlasthe kid might not be yours for example cuckle Dre true cuckle Dre is when you might accidentally raise another man's child right and so any woman who gives birth to someone you know for a fact
06:47:25
Brian Atlasthat that's your that is your biological child but as a man there you can't 100% be certain it's it's 2024 Brian you can take that doesn't undo yes you can do DNA tests which came out in the 80s that
06:47:38
Brian Atlasdoesn't undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution that have made men more invested in ensuring paternity yeah I think that there's an evoy reason for that yeah and there's You could argue
06:47:51
Brian Atlasthat there's which is why men care more about body count they care more about promiscuity and they they care much more about uh virginity for example there are strong evoy reasons for women to also want men for low with low body counts so
06:48:02
Brian Atlasthere be less scds parental uh what's it called for Parental resources maybe for Parental investment yes yes I agree but I'm not in favor I'm not in favor like
06:48:13
Brian Atlasyou know of there's certain guys in in the uh in the space in the space that Advocate that you should just try to run through a bunch of girls I don't I don't advocate for that yeah but the problem
06:48:23
Pixie (mixed)is if somebody has this that you should space it out no the me the problem is if you have the mentality of like oh you know I value these things for like all
06:48:34
Pixie (mixed)these different reasons um that's why I want to find a woman with low body count chances are she's also going to have those same values right for her own reasons for wanting to have like parental security etc etc so if you have
06:48:47
Brian Atlasthat high body count and you're still looking for a woman with like low body count chances are she's not going to be attracted to you so why isong why is it it's it seems it's like the case that it's only wrong if a man wants a trait
06:48:59
Brian Atlasthat he doesn't possess but when women want a guy who's funny but she's not funny she hold on let me just finish hold on let me just finish doesn't have to stick everything that he wants hold on hold on but a woman wants okay a guy
06:49:12
Brian Atlasa woman wants a guy who's funny she's not funny a woman wants a guy who's rich but she's broke a woman wants a guy who's a professional athlete she's not professional athlete a woman wants a guy who's High status she has no status a
06:49:23
Brian Atlaswoman wants a guy who's confident she's not confident a woman wants a guy who's charismatic she's not charismatic a woman wants a guy who's chivalrous she's not chivalrous some of describing yinan
06:49:35
Aaronyangang others you're describing examples of toer hypocrisy wait no but for me moralistic perw that's a you're trying to like snake your way out of like that someone might disagree with you on this one actually talk to the
06:49:48
Aaronmajority of women yeah the majority of women are not going to put up being lectured by a guy with a high body count about their body count any day no but here's the thing I don't here's here's the thing if a woman doesn't want to be with a guy with a high body count I
06:50:01
Brian Atlasdon't object to that at all I'm not arguing that like women shouldn't care about that if you care about that that's 100% your prerogative but my issue is is when you say and you
06:50:11
Brian Atlasshame men oh you H if you're a guy and you've had a high body count and again I'm not an advocate of men racking up high body counts but if a guy does have more sexual experience that he that
06:50:23
Brian Atlasshould some that should preclude him from having an interest in women with low body count I object to that because wom because women all the time desire traits in men that they do not possess
06:50:36
Pixie (mixed)themselves it's a moralistic perview attached to it if a woman was like hey no what so what pix pixie so what if there is a moralistic component it's
06:50:48
Brian Atlastotally irrelevant it's not it's totally irrelevant I just outright dismiss your position because you're not letting me argument hitch Hitchin Razer that well
06:50:57
Pixie (mixed)actually that's sorry that's not if a woman was saying Hey I want a guy who is like you know calm and I think because like that's what a good person is a good person is a calm person you know and
06:51:09
Pixie (mixed)then she's out there you know throwing temper tantrums freaking out well then that would make her a giant hypocrite because she is not upholding herself to the moral standard that she wants her partner to have so yes it does matter
06:51:22
Pixie (mixed)when somebody is trying to uphold the moral standard that they cannot themselves concede to what about a woman who's feminine and wants a masculine man is masculine is like is that a moral standard
06:51:32
Pixie (mixed)no is being calm a moral standard well if the woman is arguing I want somebody calm or is behavioral if the person is attaching moral purview to being calm then yeah they should be calm themselves
06:51:45
Pixie (mixed)if they're saying it is a of upright moral importance that my partner is a calm person because a calm person is a good person I think a I do think it's how do I how do
06:51:57
Brian AtlasI I don't think it necessarily necessarily makes her a hypocrite really if you I think it'd be more conducive perhaps to a a better relationship if they're both calm
06:52:08
Brian Atlasindividuals I don't think in any scenario uh being like a chaotic person or being a guy who's a like toxic I don't think that's conducive to a healthy relationship yeah the point
06:52:20
Pixie (mixed)I'm trying to get across is that if a person is saying I want my partner to have ex quality because ex quality makes them a good person and then they don't have that quality in themselves they're being hypocritical morally yeah yeah most most of the things that you're
06:52:33
Aarondescribing tend to be proxies for other things so she you're like a woman who herself is not a professional athlete wants to be with a man who's a professional athlete that's makes her a hypocrite according to
06:52:44
Aaronyou if we use your logic yes it makes yes it would make her a hypocrite I literally started this off by saying I believe it's a proxy for something else so what she doesn't really want is that if a professional athlete didn't make much money in the society guess what she
06:52:56
Aaronwouldn't want that that she wouldn't be invested in dating somebody who has that profession so it's almost like they have no attachment to to the profession and what they really want is wealth so she would probably date anybody who wants who is wealthy and at that point if
06:53:08
Aaronshe's not wealthy herself or is not even trying to become wealthy I'd say yeah you're a hypocrite also it's a long shot if you think you're going to marry outside of your economic class it's why women might might want to date
06:53:18
Brian Atlasa professional athlete for example they they love a football yeah no they basketball That's What It Is Well I would I would actually argue typically professional athletes are are demonstrating some sort of physicality
06:53:30
Brian Atlasthey probably have I would not all of them some NFL linen you know model well I was I was going to say physique for example what do you mean well that's what I'm say you're like well they demonstrate some sort of physicality and I'm saying like so do models and
06:53:43
Aaronbodybuilders and at that point what you're not even talking about as a professional athlete you just want somebody who's like physically ATT phally attrative of course but I it don't it doesn't I don't think it makes
06:53:52
Aaronmy aril on to this don't throw stones in glass hous and I think somebody who obviously puts a lot of stake in a body count and judges other women for having high body counts but they themselves
06:54:03
Dina / Savannah (mixed)have a high body count is throwing a stone in a glass house no it doesn't it does not make you hypocritical agree to disagree it does not make you hypocritical if that's not hypocritical what's hypocritical to you huh I said if
06:54:16
Aaronthat's not hypocritical then what is the definition of hypoc hypocrisy how would you define hypocrisy it's it's defined by Jesus Christ who literally said that a hypocrite is somebody who examines the crime of another man but refuses to look
06:54:29
Brian Atlasat their own no see we're talking about something different here if if you were to come out and say that if you were to
06:54:40
Brian Atlassay it's bad to be promiscuous but you yourself are promiscuous that's hypocritical however just having
06:54:50
Brian Atlasacred a high body count let's say you've acred a high body count uh it doesn't make you H
06:54:59
Brian Atlashypocritical to desire and to want to date somebody who has a low body count that doesn't make you
06:55:08
Brian Atlashypocritical if you if your standard is is if your standard is that you're like for example perhaps you're shaming women who have a high body count yet you have
06:55:21
Brian Atlasa high body count that might be hypocritical but wanting a partner like making a dating related decision about who you want to partner up with does not make you hypocritical
06:55:33
Pixie (mixed)just okay if you said like yeah but we were talking so perhaps we've been arguing it's just yeah I I think that I think the problem is that in most cases of men describing low body count when
06:55:45
Pixie (mixed)you ask them why it's usually not just saying oh iade the woman NE most of the time it's oh because she's a hoe and that's disgusting it's not just like oh that's what I happened to be attracted to so I think that's why we're speaking
06:55:57
Aaronpast each other good times because a preference is saying like I prefer blondes but I would date anybody versus what you're saying which is I won't date blondes I have to date this other died haired person like I only date people
06:56:10
Brian Atlaswith black hair there's a difference okay so do you think let's say a guy who's got a body count of 10 would you think it's hypocritical of him to want to date a woman who's a virgin who has a
06:56:19
Brian Atlasbody count of one two or three yep um a guy who has but you think so if he if he again it goes back to so hold on no no no no hold on hold on wait and I I sorry
06:56:29
Aaronto cut you off pixie I just okay so must what's what is the it's a relative concept what constitutes an objectively high body count doesn't exist because it's always just going to be relevant
06:56:41
Brian Atlasrelative to whatever the medium body count orus what is the body count range that you think someone has to Bri you're the one who does this math I don't do it cuz I don't care about money count so I don't wor about
06:56:54
Brian Atlasit no but you're you're saying that the guy who has a body count of 10 it would be hypocritical of him to want a woman to date a woman with a body count of three you said Virg you started off with
06:57:03
Brian AtlasVirgin and then you said 2 when it was hypocritical I hypoc hypocritical for a guy who has a body count of 10 to prefer
06:57:12
Aaronto date a woman who has a body count of three yes because why it can't why would that be hypocritical what what significance is he attaching to the body count that he is actively seeking out
06:57:24
Aaronwomen who have a body count of three or less we've already gone over this what is the significance I already told you why body count it's obviously moral no it's obviously a moral significance it could it could be a totally self-serving
06:57:36
Brian Atlaslet's say his only thing is totally self serving and hypocritical that's my argument what totally self- serving and hypocritical I don't really follow the logic there but so you're suggesting
06:57:47
Brian Atlasthat tell what your people what people ought to do you can only pair up with somebody who has the exact same body count as you is that what you're I think if you take it to the logical conclusion
06:57:58
Aaronthe you have to pair up with somebody who has the exact same not the same not the exact same the same range and that all of these ranges are going to be completely arbitrary cuz can you tell me what an objectively
06:58:10
Aaronhigh body count is I think when you once you start well oh dep depends it's not an no it depends on age what okay it depends on age because
06:58:22
Aaronclear like a woman who's like 18 is going to 18-year-old guy with a body count of 10 who wants an 18-year-old girl with a body count of three what's his reason don't object to that at all okay what's his reason what's his reason
06:58:35
Brian Atlasyeah there's a whole bunch of reasons one of them there's pair bonding there's just the the in at 18 he's 10 people and he's expecting a woman who's his who's the same age as him to have
06:58:47
Brian Atlasnot sub yes absolutely an 18-year-old could be pursuing a be desirous of a long-term relationship okay there's the STD risk for example the more sexual partners you've had the greater uh
06:58:58
Brian Atlaslikelihood of having an STD that goes for him too sure yes times however many more because he has a higher body count right but let's assume he doesn't have an STD and he wants to mitigate his Risk by selecting a partner then why can't we
06:59:11
Aaronassume that a woman with a high body count doesn't have a have STI wait what because you're making it sound like you said it sounds like all of these only apply to women because you were like we know that a woman with a higher body count has a higher likelihood of having an STI but when you're talking about a
06:59:24
Brian Atlasman when you're talking about when you're talking about when you're talking about a man with a high body count if a woman this guy also doesn't have that if a woman doesn't want to date a guy because she's trying who has a high body
06:59:35
Aaroncount because she wants to M mitigate herd risk that's totally fine I don't she's delusional what but would you say she's delusional for what for wanting that for wanting that no I've already I've
06:59:47
Aaronalready stated Tina said I want a guy who has a low body count would you think that she was not hypocritical but
06:59:56
Brian Atlasdelusional um would I think she's delusional well again there are some gender differences here so for example
07:00:05
Brian Atlasbut for example a guy um if you have a high body count uh I do think it is again the case that women give men a little bit more leeway on that front than the reverse yeah but it's totally
07:00:17
Aaronsocially constructed yeah okay well also about your AR but do you think that she's delusional you didn't answer the question answer the question delus would she be delusional for her saying no actually I'm sure she could actually I I
07:00:29
Brian Atlasno because I actually think it's interesting I think uh a a man who actually might have a low body count it could indicate that for example he struggles in the dating realm so it may very well be the case that
07:00:40
Aaronhe's more willing we're at the point where we're pontificating upon what the low body count r a man signifies and what it could be what it could be a proxy for or whatever but when it comes to women it's like oh yeah for sure high body count definitely risk with
07:00:53
Aaronpromiscuity and higher seci risk like you know for sure like what it could be associated with I I don't object to women have holding the exact same standards neither do I what are we your
07:01:04
Dina / Savannah (mixed)AR start can I just say something yeah okay we should wrap soon by the way about your argument about like a high body count more likely to have SDI more likely to get pregnant by somebody else like I don't think I don't think that that counts because it only takes one
07:01:17
Aaronperson yeah you could literally be a virgin and get as far as I know porn stars actually have lower instances of STI because if they get checked every mon fake news every two weeks that's fake news
07:01:29
Brian Atlasyou get checked more often than the average person ever here's the secret sapes here's the secret sauce they don't check for HPV and herpes and on a long enough timeline everybody has that everybody has everybody has HPV if you
07:01:42
Aarontalk to any physician they will tell you they do not even bother vaccinating people for HPV over the age of 25 because they assume that you have it this is like the biggest cope
07:01:51
Brian Atlasabout um in in the adult entertainment industry they don't test for herpes and HPV nope because they're very common yeah yeah in the adult entertainment industry it's
07:02:04
Aaroncommon in the general population why I just told you if you talk to a generales is a biology major Brian if you speak to a general physician about getting vaccinated about HP at for HPV over the age of 25 they won't do it
07:02:17
Brian Atlasbecause they assume you already have it over the age of that's how common it is yep herpes I think is well I mean there I we don't have to have a debate over I would argue herpes is probably simplex and there's genital herpes but you're
07:02:30
Brian Atlastalking about just herpes simplex no no no no no no no I'm talking about genital herpes they don't test for that do they test for general herpes you're an adult sir no they don't and if they did the adult enter entertainment industry would
07:02:41
Brian Atlasabsolutely crumble if it precluded people who had genal herpes we had a girl we had a girl on the show who said that she was and it's crazy to me that they don't do this that
07:02:53
Brian Atlasshe's she got herpes they don't test for it she doesn't I I if I recall she does not disclose to her partners that she has herpes but correct me if I'm wrong
07:03:06
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you can only get herpes from someone if they're having a flare up yes that is true and I've actually worked with that girl multiple times I've worked with male porn you come with her on the show yeah yeah I've worked with male porn stars who like have herpes but don't
07:03:18
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)have an outbreak and you you can kiss them as long as you don't touch a herpes sore I thought you different way so if they're diagnosed with herpes but they don't have an outbreak it's kind of like
07:03:30
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)a wart you know some a w on their finger and you touch it you're going to get you can be pre like pre symptomatic or I don't know what the term is but asymptomatic no but like it could be
07:03:41
Brian Atlaslike the the tail end or like the oh I don't know what the the tail end or the front end of an outbreak and it might not be perfectly no that's very true on a long
07:03:53
Brian Atlasenough timeline in the porn industry my understanding is most most women or most uh people in the industry are going to get herpes I I joined the porn industry
07:04:04
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)knowing that um that was something that like I had made a major like took a major thought about and it's really it's up to me and it's up to my scene partner
07:04:16
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)to make sure that I am healthy and that I am making sure that my scene partner is healthy before I you know touch them and have sex with them I mean I don't
07:04:25
Dina / Savannah (mixed)know if this is too prying but do you have herpes no I do not I I I don't know I don't know actually okay I mean are you just arguing in
07:04:36
Aaronfavor of STDs I'm a little confused here no okay you were trying to make the case that you said porns if they tested for herpes that porn stars would have the highest rates of STI um that
07:04:49
Brian Atlaspreviously arguing you're trying to use the absence of evidence to prove your point and I'm using actual evence no you were you were trying to argue that well the STD rate amongst porn stars is actually very low but that's actually not true it's more likely to lower
07:05:02
Brian Atlasbecause they are tested more often than the general population no excluding herpes it is true excluding herpes okay well uh herpes seems a lot worse than like goria sorry when's the last time
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Brian Atlasyou got tested yeah yeah Brian when's the last time you got tested Brian you think her I get tested after all the shows after all my shows I get tested you know I you know
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Brian Atlasit's one time I sat on the chair and I had a I had a little n okay all right guys we're going to Let's wrap this up um we have one chat here from uh from jez we went long okay Julian Aaron
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Brian Atlasdoesn't like hearing the truth so she cuts off and talks over Brian to make his point invalid Brian I already told you the reasons why is it okay for women to have preferences but not men oh my God I the this is literally the M Bailey where why is it okay for women to have preferences but not men I've never said
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Aaronthat it's not okay for men to have preferences women to have preferences you literally I didn't I said it makes you a hypocrite if you have standards that could apply to you but you choose not to and then expect them of other people
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Aaronthat's been my argument the entire time Brian we're not getting into this please on the show it's like seven hours in my head is pounding can we at least can you at
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Brian Atlasleast affirm my identity that I am right on this position please no absolutely not I'm going to come on to the next show I would like you to affirm my
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Aaronidentity as the rightful person on this issue he keep us here if you don't Charlie Kirk told me that endless affirmation is bad and leads to unal living yourself so I and I could not do
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Brian Atlasthat in good conscience good talk all right guys we're going to here let me uh get some ho oh actually let me do the outro and then I'll do the host and then we're going to wrap uh I know you I know we
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Brian Atlaswent long guys I appreciate you guys uh sticking it sticking it sticking it to the uh end sorry guys let me pull up the
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Brian Atlasoutro one moment poor favore okay sorry guys um let's see
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Brian Atlasuh I need to do okay so those of you on Twitch those of you on Twitch I'm going to do a raid uh let me just raid we're going to raid stay safe on Twitch those
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Brian Atlasthank you guys for uh making through this uh long show appreciate it guys 07s in the chat good night guys we'll be live again Tuesday at 5:00 pm. Pacific and then uh we got some very solid
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