Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Charlie Kirk vs. Feminists & E-Girls! | Dating Talk #130
Date: 2024-01-29
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Charlie Kirk(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Aaron(guest)
SPEAKER_11Pixie (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_13Dina / Savannah (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Molly Little / Angel (mixed)(guest)
Key Moments
00:08:40
OtherCharlie Kirk reveals he waited until marriage for sex
“Charlie Kirk says waiting until marriage was 'the greatest decision of my life'”
00:12:42
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about her father relationship
“Charlie Kirk asks Molly if she has a good relationship with her father; Molly says she doesn't talk to him. Kirk: 'I'm not surprised.'”
00:31:45
OtherCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about porn addiction and compares it to drug dealing
“Kirk asks if porn is a drug, compares porn performers to drug dealers; panel pushes back strongly.”
00:52:10
OtherMolly Little says she would not quit porn for $1 million/year
“Charlie Kirk offers hypothetical $1M/year if she quit porn; Molly says no, she would still do it because she is an exhibitionist.”
00:57:28
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks panel 'What is a woman?'
“Kirk presses Pixie and Aaron for biological definition of woman; panelists give social constructivist answers. Kirk: 'There are zero genders, two sexes, and infinite personalities.'”
02:37:33
OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show
“Brian thanks Charlie Kirk; Kirk plugs TPUSA.com and The Charlie Kirk Show podcast. Kirk thanks show for being 'the most respectful' he's seen.”
03:18:30
OtherMolly Little's body count revealed from viral Twitter clip
“Brian reveals Molly's viral Twitter clip claiming body count over 100; Molly clarifies mostly from shoots, fewer than 10 off-camera civilians.”
03:20:15
OtherDina Snows reveals she hooked up with a trans woman (not knowing at first)
“Dina describes OF shoot with a trans woman where she did not know beforehand the person had male genitalia; briefly performed oral.”
05:55:10
OtherSelf-rating round begins
“Brian prompts Stiffler chat donation request: everyone rates their looks 1-10. Results: Sophia=9, Molly=10, Aaron<10, Dina=8, Brian=5.”
06:20:00
OtherDina Snows recounts hotel gangbang story
“Dina describes leaving a boring guy in hotel lobby to hook up with a sports coach and his manager — a foursome in sequence.”
06:21:00
OtherDina Snows discusses labiaplasty
“Dina shares she got a labiaplasty for cosmetic and physical discomfort reasons; asymmetry caused discomfort and she felt self-conscious while filming OF content.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:06
Introductions & Relationship Status
Guests introduce themselves; Brian asks about relationship status and longest relationships. Charlie Kirk introduces himself and shares marriage/family perspective.
00:06:40
Hookup Culture & Purpose of Dating
Charlie Kirk advocates dating with intent to marry; sex as sacred. Guests debate hookup culture, open relationships, and casual sex. Molly Little discusses porn and open relationship dynamic.
00:13:20
What Is Love — Definitions
Panel goes around table defining love. Greek words for love (philia, storge, eros, agape) introduced by Charlie Kirk. Discussion of fear of commitment.
00:32:40
Porn Addiction & Social Effects
Charlie Kirk argues porn is a social toxin with drug-like addiction; references 'Your Brain on Porn' by Gary Wilson. Panel debates regulation, age verification, and comparison to drug prohibition.
00:38:36
Political Orientation & Dating Across Party Lines
Guests reveal political orientations; debate whether they can date someone with opposing politics. Pixie's 20-minute date story. Gender divergence in political affiliation discussed. Charlie Kirk on value alignment in marriage.
00:54:24
Feminism — Definition & Debate
Aaron and Pixie identify as feminist; Charlie Kirk asks them to define it. Debate over equal pay, gender wage gap, and economic equality.
00:57:28
What Is a Woman — Gender Identity Debate
Charlie Kirk asks panelists to define 'woman' without circular definition. Debate on biological sex vs social gender construction. Trans rights, puberty blockers, trans kids, detransitioners, and gender dysphoria discussed at length.
01:52:00
Abortion Debate
Panel debates abortion rights. Charlie Kirk gives his pro-life position. Statistics on abortion rates. Aaron and others argue pro-choice positions.
02:37:33
Charlie Kirk Departs; Madison Joins
Charlie Kirk thanks the show, plugs TPUSA; leaves around 157min. Madison (Whatever Podcast staff) joins the panel. Andrew Wilson attempted call-in but mic cord snapped; never joined.
02:39:13
Dina Snows — AVN, Labiaplasty, Relationship Views
Dina discusses AVN convention experience, labiaplasty (medical + cosmetic reasons), sleeping through friend groups, hotel gangbang story, open relationship preferences, and difficulty with commitment.
03:16:40
Body Count Discussion
Molly Little's 100+ body count (mostly on-camera) discussed after viral Twitter clip. Panel debates whether body count matters for dating.
03:36:00
Orgasm Gap & Sexual Experience
Discussion on percentage of men able to make female partners orgasm. Orgasm gap, multiple orgasms, squirting, gooning/edging discussed.
05:55:19
Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)
Stiffler chat donation prompts self-rating round. Sophia: 9. Molly: 10. Aaron: less than 10. Dina: 8. Brian: 5. Panel debates delusion of self-rating 10.
06:03:50
Financial Dynamics in Dating — Provider Role
Sophia's story of supporting unemployed boyfriend. Debate on whether women should expect financial provision even when they earn more. Brian discusses provider role; plays TikTok "70k boyfriend" clip.
Transcript
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00:00:06
Brian Atlaswelcome to the whatever dating Talk podcast where we try to make sense of the modern dating hellscape thanks for tuning in tonight our first show of 2024 you could have been anywhere in the world but you're here with me I appreciate that we're coming to you live
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Brian Atlasfrom Santa Barbara California every Sunday and Tuesday 5:00 P PM Pacific I am your host Brian Atlas I'm joined by my co-host Kiki back there uh she's a she's somewhere back there she's a bit shy a few quick announ ments before the
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Brian Atlashaven't heard the US federal government DHS funded $700,000 towards feminists at Arizona State University to write a biased report and in that report these feminists essentially want to counter
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Brian Atlasthe threat of the whatever podcast because of our discourse on promiscuity and Body Count okay um this is bigger than the FBI NWA letter so um your tax
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Brian Atlasdollars at work um anyways we have a big panel tonight guys so for the sake of a smooth stream we've boosted the read and TTS triggers and you can see all those all the details on in the description if the frequency of the TTS is is too
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Brian Atlasdisruptive too frequent I might have to boost it uh so please see the description for all triggers and full details uh let's see you know what we're just going to get right into it so
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Brian Atlaswithout further Ado we're going to have the guests introduce themselves so please tell us your name age location so where you're from and occupation go
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Sophiaahead hi my name is Sophia I'm 21 and I'm from Chicago I am a streamer and I do a lot of social media influencing all right
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Aaronwelcome hi my name is Aaron AKA stade I'm originally from South Texas but now based in Miami Beach I'm 25 and I work for Progressive Victory which is a pack dedicated to helping get progressive
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)politicians elected to office all right welcome back hi I'm Savannah I'm 20 my birthday just happened
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Pixie (mixed)26 uh I'm 26 I'm from La um and I'm a clothing designer slod okay welcome hi I'm pixie I'm 24 I
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Pixie (mixed)currently live in Miami but I was born and raised in Puerto Rico I also work with Progressive Victory and the streaming operations helping connect streamers to legislators to help pass
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)Progressive legislation so yeah here I am all right welcome back hi I'm angel I'm 19 um I do social media and I am a piercing
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)Apprentice okay got it hi I'm Dina snows I'm from Dublin Ireland I'm 25 and I'm a content creator on social media on only fans I also work with
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)Productions on adult movies um and I'm also involved in influencer boxing scene and I've just started streaming on Twitch you do any boxing yourself or you're just involved in just started training I took it up two months ago cuz
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)I've already done the ring ring girl I've done ring walks so I'm taking the training now and seeing where I can go maybe 2024 you'll see me fighting in the ring who knows got it okay um hi hi I'm
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Charlie KirkMolly little um I'm 20 and I'm a porn star and I do only fans I'm Charley um Charlie Kirk honored to be here and I run Turning Point USA
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Charlie Kirkand also host a podcast the Charlie Kirk show and have a YouTube channel all that good stuff sweet from Arizona age I just turned 30 so I'm getting too old for this stuff oh wow okay well okay 30 I'm
00:03:54
Brian Atlas30 when was your birthday October oh yeah great so what we're going to do is we're going to go around the table once more what is everyone's current relationship status so are you single
00:04:05
Brian Atlastalking stage situationship Friends with Benefits relationship married po cool uh how long have you been single if you're single what's the longest relationship that you've ever been in starting with
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Sophiayou go ahead I am single um I've been single for about I would say 4 months now and the longest relationship I've had would probably be a year all right
00:04:27
AaronI'm taken I'm in a relationship with my boyfriend like in cooks and we've been together for 5 months and this is my longest relationship and my first relationship congrats there you go um I am in a
00:04:39
Pixie (mixed)relationship um what was the other question what it was your longest oh longest two and a half years I'm single like Pringle I'm
00:04:49
Brian Atlaslooking date my longest relationship was like 3 to four years you said longest relationship was 3 to four years yeah and is this a new relationship for you okay cuz I think last time you were on
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Brian Atlasyou were not in a like yeah okay got it uh so how new is this like a month or so uh oh if you can can you scoot into the table just oh is there no space that's
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Brian Atlasfine um how new is the relationship uh not even a month so okay can I have you scoot your microphone that way just to Tad no other way oh yep perfect what about you I'm single I've been single
00:05:23
Dina / Savannah (mixed)for a year and my longest relationship was a year and a half all right um I've been single for about 2 years a little bit over 2 years and my longest relationship is between 6 months and a year yeah and they usually always C at
00:05:37
Dina / Savannah (mixed)that I've only had like three relationships and they never last longer than that I get bored too easily I guess you get bored too easily I think I don't know and you said from 6 months to a
00:05:48
Brian Atlasyear you seem a little uncertain about the length of your longest relationship is is it a bit hazy in the sense of was it on again off again is that kind of what you're it wasn't really on and on and off but it was kind of like we dated
00:06:00
Dina / Savannah (mixed)for 6 months and then we were in a relationship okay for a couple more months so the total of kind of being in a situation and dating and stuff got it can be up to a year yeah okay Molly what about you um I'm in a relationship it's
00:06:13
Charlie Kirkbeen 10 months and my longest relationship was about a year all right Charlie what about you happily married uh okay it's going we've been together for 5 years and we'll be celebrating our
00:06:24
Brian Atlasthree- year anniversary in May and we have a beautiful daughter all right well I think um you know you're being the only married person here I think that's perhaps a good jumping off point I think a lot of people both men and women they're kind
00:06:36
Brian Atlasof frustrated with the current dating landscape do you have any thoughts on this what's your diagnosis and any solutions and we'll go we'll open it up
00:06:47
Charlie Kirksure yeah um yeah I think people need to date with the intent to marry yeah I I'm a big critic of hookup culture and its current form um I believe sex should be sacred and is sacred and it's it's
00:06:59
Charlie Kirkreally way thrown away way too generously in this society and culture um and I can tell you I'm super blessed I have the best wife in the world we have an amazing life um building a family is the coolest thing ever and I
00:07:10
Charlie Kirkmy prayer for all of you is that you one day can do that it's that's so cute it's um it's honestly the most joyful thing and I you know I've had some pretty amazing experiences I've been very very blessed very lucky you could say but very blessed is the word I would use and
00:07:23
Charlie Kirkthe greatest joy I've ever had is coming home to my little daughter running up to my leg there's nothing that even comes close to it not flying on Air Force One not meeting with presidents that's all that pales in comparison to your little
00:07:35
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)girl coming up and squeezing your leg oh okay got it uh does anybody else have any thoughts on that with uh you know yeah so I just wanted to Circle back
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)because you said something that caught my attention and I disagree with it um because you said something like um I hope all of you can like experience that and like you said something like I hope all of you can experience that and I
00:07:59
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)mean I don't disagree with that I hope we can all experience joy in life like that that's amazing but I just feel like I don't know why you said it that
00:08:10
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)way like maybe we're not going to experience that because we don't have the same values as you is that what he said from that I thought it was I don't I don't think that's I don't know that's not the impression I got but I if
00:08:23
Charlie KirkCharlie wants to answer well if I said it that way I didn't mean it that way um but do you feel in is is that a goal that you have to be a
00:08:33
Brian Atlasmother uh's the thing oh uh okay the P star is giving Charlie a covert whoa okay all right okay okay okay all right
00:08:43
Charlie Kirkuh moving on no but but Molly do you think that keep it is that okay oh no no sorry go ahead go ahead is that is that a goal that you would want for in your
00:08:52
Charlie Kirklife to to be a mother 100% yeah do you think that in your self-described current line of work that that is is
00:09:00
Charlie Kirkmore or less likely what do you mean by likely like I mean maybe you can tell me more about your your line of work what would
00:09:13
Charlie Kirkyou like to know um do you think that it's going to create a a good happy family in the
00:09:22
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)future um right now I'm working on it yeah me and my uh boyfriend are doing really well in our relationship and honestly I think contrary to what most
00:09:33
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)people would believe I think um being in porn has strengthened us why why is that I I I've never heard that yeah what can you tell me why so basically
00:09:48
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)like being important and having sort of like this open type of relationship where you can have sex with other people um obviously there are certain boundaries in the relationship but it
00:09:59
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)really makes you think about um you know what's important why you love this person and you know you start to really hold things true that are deeper than just sex and I think that on top of that
00:10:13
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you can share sex with other people together and that's really bonding that's really fun are you ever worried that you do you ever get jealous of him if he has sex with other people yeah oh
00:10:24
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you do yeah so how does that strengthen your relationship um because we're able to talk about it and I think every time that I bring up a concern and he's able to sooth it and
00:10:35
Charlie Kirkwe're really able to like work on that Bond it just makes it stronger have you ever when you were having sex do you ever think it's more than physical that maybe there's emotional
00:10:47
Charlie Kirkand spiritual connections you might be introducing no so it's a purely physical experience yeah see for me sex is more than physical it's actually that's the
00:10:58
Charlie Kirkleast part of sex for me because I get to share it with my soulmate it's my best friend it's definitely a big energy exchange yeah it's a big energy exchange and soly I would ask respectfully you
00:11:08
Charlie Kirkknow wouldn't you want to only share that energy exchange with the person that you love most and want to have children with um I think sex can exchange different types of energies so
00:11:20
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)like you can exchange an intimate type of energy or you can exchange a really passionate like horny type of energy you can exchange dull energy during sex you
00:11:30
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)can exchange manipulative energy during sex sex can be used for a wide variety of things and I think the biggest one is like
00:11:41
Charlie Kirkmarital spiritual connection but you can't deny that there's other benefits to it as well if you if you could never if you could be with your boyfriend currently and I waved a magic wand and I
00:11:54
Charlie Kirksaid you can make a million dollars a year and never do porn again would you no
00:12:01
Brian Atlasokay period okay what are you making more than that a year Molly uh not yet oh well then I mean aren't you doing that that's
00:12:14
Brian Atlasyour profession so I assume you're doing that to make money correct yeah 100% well also but Charlie just has a magical wand he's got that's not the wand um he's for the sake of argument he's used the wand you can make a a million
00:12:25
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)dollars a year you don't have to do uh you know the adult content yeah well the thing is I wouldn't have to do it that would be great but I would still want to do it I'm I mean personally like I'm an exhibitionist I love like putting my
00:12:38
Charlie Kirksexual self out there for other people to see for other people to like you know touch themselves to have fun with h can I ask you a question since you're about
00:12:49
Charlie Kirkpresenting yourself to the world do you have a good relationship with your father okay here we go no I don't talk to him I'm not surprised yeah I actually think
00:13:01
Aaronit's principal that you said you wouldn't give it up just for money because that shows that you do it for reasons Beyond just like Financial ones that shows you have like a genuine passion and interest in it grid One Motorsports donated
00:13:12
TTS/Chat$200 in other words sex is whatever she needs to make believe it is at the time she needs to rationalize it it's called whole logic oh I wouldn't use that language but um Molly what I would say
00:13:25
Charlie Kirkis you seem like a sweet person maybe something to think about is the years go on that maybe sex should just be saved for the person you love most I would ask you or the panel what would your definition of Love be me and
00:13:38
Brian Atlasthe whole panel or just anyone I mean that's just a fundamental question with dating right answer is that a tough question guys what is kind of yeah yeah it's a very comple answer you know what we let's go around the tables oh no it's
00:13:50
Brian Atlasgreat it's great it's great we'll go around the table uh do you want answer so your question is what is love yeah that is a that's a song too what is love it's a good song yeah or or how would you define love because I think that
00:14:02
Brian Atlasshouldn't that could we all agree that's probably a good goal of dating to find love could we all agree on that yeah I yes so we'll start with you we'll go around the table if you guys want to give your answers for for that go ahead
00:14:14
SophiaI feel like love is an emotional connection between two people that value each other and accept each other for who they are I feel like that's what love is
00:14:24
SophiaI feel like real love is when you find kind of I guess things you don't like about the person you're with and you still choose to be with them and grow with them either way I feel like that's
00:14:37
Aaronreal love I feel like that's more of a romantic type of love I feel like love is something that's going to transcend just romantic relationships and I would say it's like an emotional bond that exists between human beings and I say
00:14:49
Aaronhuman beings just to specify that I don't think it exists between people and things because I think that's kind of materialistic oh FL life thank you for the gifted 50 memberships appreciated sorry go ahead Aaron go ahead uh just
00:15:01
Aaronthat I think love is a connection that exists between people not things to get away from more like a materialist understanding of like people saying like I love my car or I love this item or whatever I don't really think that constitutes love but other than that I would not be able to really Define it
00:15:14
TTS/Chatit's a question that philosophers have been debating since the beginning of time I don't know that it'll be answer on this podcast hold on Donald Trump donated $200 I'm pleased to announce Charlie
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TTS/ChatKirk as my anoun it'll be the best big Trump 2024 tremendous we will make America great again for the record I'm I'm not old enough for oh you're not old enough
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Brian Atlasto be the VP pick okay I thought we had a whatever exclusive Here Charlie Kirk the VP pick okay I'm sorry Erin go ahead no just that oh okay what about you I agree with both of them so I like I
00:15:48
Pixie (mixed)don't really have anything else to add okay all right yeah there is different types of Love obviously we don't feel love for our parents the same way we do with a romantic partner or friend or friends yeah but with that being said I
00:16:00
Pixie (mixed)would classify love as a deep connection and emotion that you share with someone and also kind of like really hoping for the best for that person for who they are and their future and just like what
00:16:12
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you hope you can do together as well okay um I agree with them as well I think love is accepting someone for all of them not just the good parts um and I think that it should be like
00:16:26
Dina / Savannah (mixed)unconditional if you're going to love someone that it should be you know know the good and the bad that's a tricky one for me cuz I have a hard um I'm difficult to kind of deal with
00:16:38
Dina / Savannah (mixed)the term love and things around it I'm kind of scared of it um but I feel like the main type of love that I like to focus on is just the self-love like as the rest of the girls are saying there's so many different types of love you can find in a partner but I feel like I
00:16:51
Dina / Savannah (mixed)don't know I couldn't imagine myself self loving somewhat unconditionally but myself sure I can find ways can I can I ask a question absolutely go ahead um why do you think you you're afraid of love I don't know what it is I think
00:17:04
Sophiamaybe the commitment like yeah it's scary isn't it would you say other people are you afraid of love I I feel feel that way I feel like people are afraid of happiness
00:17:15
Sophiacuz happiness isn't long term you can't stay happy forever especially with the person it's not always going to be perfect so I feel like a lot of people are scared of love because I feel like well let's say
00:17:28
Sophiayou're in a Rel reltionship with somebody right and I guess the best thing you can hope for is to end up dying together it's no matter what it's never like forever lasting so I don't
00:17:38
Dina / Savannah (mixed)know I think that's how it is and it's also scary cuz like if you give more to someone and they like don't give it back like that hurts a lot I
00:17:50
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)think I think honestly that's the most beautiful part about love because true love um doesn't really care what whether you're loved back um it hurts if you're
00:18:01
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)not loved back but you're still going to love that person or yourself or whatever um but I think that love in general is just a deep understanding and acceptance
00:18:12
Charlie Kirkof a human being yeah the uh the Greeks had four words for love English has screwed this up so in Greek the first word would be fileo which is the brotherly love the
00:18:24
Charlie KirkCity of Brotherly Love Philadelphia right so we all know that what that's like to love a sibling right but that's a completely different type of love than stor in Greek which is to love a child which is my wish for all of you it's a
00:18:36
Charlie Kirkgreat thing as I said uh also there is Aeros which some of you may have had before which is erotic we get the English word erotic from but then there's this he looked at me did you look at her
00:18:48
Charlie KirkI I did kind of glance right in her direction right as you said that so um so and then the last is agape which I'm a Christian we believe that's the highest form of love which you guys mentioned sort of which is you would
00:18:59
Charlie Kirkgive your life for that person and that's a very hard thing right I would give my life for my wife in a second and for my child and um I I guess my question is and we anyone can chime in
00:19:11
Charlie Kirkthrough the current hookup culture only fans is it more less likely to get towards that ideal self-sacrificing type of Love
00:19:22
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)yeah I don't know personally I was just going to say personally I think that a lot of people today are so wrapped up and stuck cuz they don't know how to love themselves
00:19:34
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)and that causes you know a lot of stuff to happen and it can uh Cloud your mind from really being able to um what's word I'm
00:19:44
Dina / Savannah (mixed)looking for pursue and look for a connection with another person and also with like social media and like dating apps and stuff now like people are so used to like having options and just
00:19:56
Dina / Savannah (mixed)like literally just having like who ever they really want to so it's like a lot harder for people to be like I guess more serious because once go ahead keep going keep going keep
00:20:09
Dina / Savannah (mixed)going uh because like one I don't know like for a lot of people that are into like hookup culture and stuff like I don't know I just feel like there's a lot of options and people don't take it serious cuz there's so many people to choose from and like if they don't like
00:20:22
Dina / Savannah (mixed)one thing about you they're like oh okay I'll just find someone else then like I don't know it's kind of yeah I I think that goes in terms of like anybody not just on fans people yeah um on fans obviously does get in the way of someone
00:20:34
Dina / Savannah (mixed)wanting to take you serious but I've actually noticed on fans has got a lot more guys in my DMs so when I post a booty pick everyone is loving me well do they love you or do they lust you well
00:20:45
Charlie Kirkit's yeah probably more lust but it's still something to feed my attention ego if if if you could find a stable soulmate would you would you quit that line of work if you were if you were
00:20:56
Dina / Savannah (mixed)totally financially supported similar to the question question to Molly I mean anything to make me stay in bed all day I'll take so um yeah but in terms of a soulmate I don't know like I would I'd
00:21:09
Dina / Savannah (mixed)rather myself be my own soulmate like I was raised by an independent mother I haven't really seen much of a like kind of I guess a relationship but I also feel like you don't really need it my mom has done everything for herself and
00:21:21
Dina / Savannah (mixed)for me um so I don't know I just I feel like menopause as well I'm going to get sick of them and I'll be in a marriage that I will regret so sick of who if I get married such a dark view of marriage
00:21:33
Charlie Kirkit's a beautiful thing everybody it's this exciting no I trust me part of the problem is the culture is so dark and terrible it I will be per it's very hard
00:21:46
Charlie Kirkmarriage is very difficult it's the hardest thing I've ever done and raising kids is even harder than that and I've done some difficult stuff but it's by far the most fulfilling Charlie do you
00:21:54
Charlie Kirkthink people should wait until marriage to have sex ideally of course yes but I'm not here to judge people that I mean I'm not here to say that you're a bad
00:22:04
Dina / Savannah (mixed)person or whatever that's I have sorry can I just ask did you wait till March oh really he the greatest decision of my life Wow Wow I would not be able imagine you waited till marriage and you find it they have I had other I would hate that
00:22:18
Charlie Kirklike I would be so well there's more important things I think more important things like you can't leave it up to the marriage day man sexual interourse is let's play the other other side of it
00:22:29
Charlie Kirkimagine going into the bedroom on your marriage night and knowing that you both have each other for the first time you never had to share that human being yeah true but then again I lost to a virgin as well or imagine if they were
00:22:42
Aaronreally experienced and they were an awesome way and you guys also had a connection that would also be really fun or if they're a man they might be thinking about other women for the rest of your relationship I don't think men stop thinking about other women just cuz they get married I really doubt that
00:22:55
Charlie Kirkwill do that no matter what no men men's minds are rather undisciplined you are right that is true but they don't have other experiences or pair bonds especially for young women which pair bonds are a real thing to compare that
00:23:06
Charlie Kirkto but look I I will go back to what I said sex is a very powerful thing we all agreed with that right and I think you have tool one might even say yeah it can be used it could be abused it could be
00:23:18
Charlie Kirkbut in its ideal which I fully acknowledge it's very very hard to do very hard very hard very difficult but should be a goal that I would like to see more people at least talk about in a
00:23:28
Charlie Kirknon-judgmental way that is worth aspiring to and it's not impossible it's not impossible it's it's not popular but it's not
00:23:40
Charlie Kirkimpossible okay did you have a response here or I thought someone over here had a I don't think so I feel like I had something to say by oh did you have yeah sorry did you have more does does did any if you
00:23:53
Dina / Savannah (mixed)could wipe the SL I know this is hypothetical that's okay well I remember what I was say now you were saying that like oh if you only have one partner you're not going to think about other people but I actually feel like that might make you wonder even more yeah you'll be seeing all these girls online
00:24:05
Dina / Savannah (mixed)you'll be watching porn you'll be thinking about all these other things and it's like all you have is one person and like I don't know I feel like that would kind of open up a lot of curiosity yeah that would DW me crazy I would like always be wondering what I was missing and like did I miss out on something
00:24:19
Charlie Kirkgood because I was holding out for something that maybe turned out not to be what I thought it was yeah looking around I can't say that I I think I'm missing much to be honest around this table I'm just saying no not around this
00:24:30
Charlie Kirktable I just say the country I just in general not around this table I just what am I missing um you know I have a and by the way is he missing anything yeah what Ain is he missing I mean if
00:24:42
Charlie Kirkyou're saying if you're saying she's like way in not every day is amazing well obviously missing out on some good thre sus say okay uh if that is the
00:24:55
Charlie Kirkcompelling argument then don't know why that's not working our audio look everything in life is a choice I get to have a soulmate that I get to go on adventure with and a beautiful daughter and you
00:25:06
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)get to have orgies you can still have a soulmate and a beautiful family and do porn so
00:25:16
Charlie KirkMolly I don't think you're right um and if it works for you then you will definitely defy the odds no I think it does work I think it can be proven that you can still I know for a fact it works I have friends with with kids and like
00:25:29
Charlie Kirkfriends who are in relationships getting married and they're very prominent doing porn other people having origies let me tell you all that jazz yeah let me tell you a true story about a young
00:25:41
Charlie Kirkyoung lady who went to high school near here when she started to get 15 her mom was a a porn actress um and all the other boys would constantly tease her and Bully her cuz they would show
00:25:52
Charlie Kirkpictures of her naked mother uh and it really really hurt her do you ever wonder that for your future kids might have to be confronted by that or teased or ridiculed by your line of work I know
00:26:03
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)they will be confronted with it but there's so many ways to answer the question but honestly for one I don't really care because to me the way that I look at it and the way that I'm going to
00:26:13
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)raise my kids says a hell of a lot more to me about the child who is instigating negative emotions in my child because of what I do for work rather than my child
00:26:24
Charlie Kirkminding their own business do you ever worry that you might be producing content that could be seriously damaging other people no
00:26:35
Charlie Kirkokay Charlie you were about to say a little earlier if you could wipe the Slate clean what was the question you have there if you could wipe the Slate theoretically and rgin ISE yourself oh W
00:26:47
Sophiaand and would you could you go back to the person you were as a virgin no no I love who I am now I feel like everything happened for a reason and I I don't know I love who I
00:26:58
Dina / Savannah (mixed)am now would I take back the people that I did probably but yeah like you said it made like who I am so
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)no I think I would definitely do some things different um it's it's kind of ironic because this probably is an answer you're looking for but if I was to start again I'd probably lose my virginity for porn and do more porn
00:27:22
Dina / Savannah (mixed)things earlier on um but yeah that's just me but there's definitely some body counts that I do regret just one nice Sands and all them lame things but why what what what about they did did you regret just the just the one I stand
00:27:33
Dina / Savannah (mixed)they weren't worthy or yeah just like bad time or like weird people or like you know you get too drunk and you get in a situation you can't really get out of and stuff like that but um in terms of then all the stuff I do for work I
00:27:45
Aaronlove that because that's like an art form for me so yeah I want to Circle back to something you said earlier where you said that Molly Molly's children hypothetical future children could be
00:27:55
Aaronconfronted with like her work right and I think that that is not I don't think there's any career path that precludes your child from potentially being confronted with what their parents say like I know that you're involved in like political work and stuff like that do
00:28:08
Aaronyou ever worry that things that you've said online or done or political actions that you've taken might be like your daughter might be confronted by them by somebody who has like somebody's kid who has an opposing point of view I feel like that would like give or worry about something like that well she'll
00:28:20
Aarondefinitely be confronted it's just it's not videos of me having sex online no but you said like tons of controversial things right right so do you expect that any of that could like have negative effects on her well-being or like how
00:28:33
Aaronshe's raised or anything like that or do you think um and I say controversial like neutrally and descriptively like objectively if your views are polarizing that's going to incite conversation debate discussion do you ever worry about like kids confronting her with
00:28:45
Charlie Kirkthese things and her not being prepared to know how to answer them or maybe feeling like bullied or embarrassed yeah I mean that's that's a factor of being in in public life for sure yeah and hopefully um hopefully I build her
00:28:57
Charlie Kirkstrong up enough to be able to endure that right then I bet Molly thinks probably the same thing right like that sort of resiliency do you think public political commentary is morally on the same plane as filming yourself having sex yes yes yeah I think people if
00:29:11
Aaronanything it could sometimes be worse depending on what the person is talking about I agree worse okay I think politics is definitely heavier than porn you think politics does more damage than porn uh for the actual life 100% like
00:29:23
Dina / Savannah (mixed)the world yes yeah yeah her having sex with other men is not disrupting the world not se but filming it in DEC not putting the
00:29:32
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)world into sh men a release of their seing that they can't girls to them so they go jerk off to me the Lonely Boys you know we're we're helping them
00:29:43
Dina / Savannah (mixed)so also I feel like it's their choice to watch so it's you know it's not like I was also going to ask how kids would know that someone's mom is a porn star how would they know that internet's
00:29:54
Pixie (mixed)forever can you scoot your mic that way um internet but why I mean obviously kids what it would be a parental failure basically like the parents are not
00:30:03
Pixie (mixed)monitoring their child's consumption of media good enough and the
00:30:10
TTS/Chat$200 I was a Oh God my springf goes like this oh my God they give $200 for
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Brian Atlasthis I got some interesting I got okay all right thank you uh thank you for that um okay okay uh where were we I finished my thought
00:30:32
Charlie Kirkokay do any of you think that a generation of young men and having struggled with porn myself totally acknowledge it so no one have you jerked off to me oh my God
00:30:42
Charlie KirkMolly he's thinking I I've never heard of you before so um yeah that's the answer cuz your wife is watching that's true I've never heard of you
00:30:53
Brian Atlasbefore that was kind of out of pocket Molly um okay um so Charlie Kirk your political commentator um can I say one thing
00:31:05
Charlie Kirkabsolutely go ahead go ahead Molly I have sympathy for you I do you're trying to cope with the suppression of your soul and filming yourself having sex with other men and filming it is not the
00:31:17
Charlie Kirkhighest and best use of the talents that God gave you it's not I that is a talent God gave me well it's not the highest and best use and it's not a talent cuz as I said in my belief it is should that should be Sav sa in a sacred domain
00:31:28
Charlie Kirkwe're not going to agree on that but I hope uh I hope you change course I think you'll be happier and more joyful and I pray you don't have to suffer too much to realize that well in my belief this is my most happy and
00:31:40
Charlie Kirkjoyful so if Molly made like a huge pivot and started doing politics would you support her political like runs and bids it's not a matter of politics I mean I I just I want what's best for all the all of you here and I don't think
00:31:53
Charlie Kirkfilming yourself having sex with men is the highest and best use of your talents in fact I think it personally has done a lot of damage to a lot of young men um and don't take my word for it look and you can read the book by Gary Wilson
00:32:04
Charlie Kirkyour brain on porn it is the number one drug in America right now and it it impacts men definitely isn't healthy okay so it's not healthy so we agree so let me ask a moral question what do you
00:32:15
Charlie Kirkguys think of drug dealers that push fentel good people or not good people probably not not good people so if we agree that porn is a drug hold on hold
00:32:25
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)on a second if if porn is a drug how is Molly not a either drug dealer or a drug manufacturer it's different levels of add there's so many other drugs like
00:32:36
Charlie Kirkweed is not fentanyl weed fine we we agree I wouldn't say weed is fine but it is not as bad as fentanyl but to there there's different levels do you believe
00:32:47
Charlie Kirkporn is a drug I think it's an addiction a drug is a no so what is what does porn do to the the male mind I don't know I'm not a male okay okay yeah it is the the same biochemical release as cocaine it's
00:33:00
Charlie Kirkalmost identical in fact it's even more powerful at time not to mention the damage it does to their relationships and how it has to rewire their brain that that goes without saying but I just I don't really see the the comparison
00:33:12
Aaronwith like Fentanyl and porn though because fentanyl actually kills people and and it's highly addictive I know right now currently like porn addiction is not recognized and the dsm5 is a legitimate addiction the only behavioral based addiction would be drug addiction
00:33:25
Aaronsomething like fentanyl or whatever every other type of addiction is something that's like so that you can't or sorry not drug based uh gambling that's what it is gambling addiction is very real but I don't believe porn addiction is I think you can have impulse control issues with porn but
00:33:38
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)that would be like any other thing that you could have difficulty controlling like your consumption of mhm so go ahead mly please so my my question is like um I kind of have a comparison of my own and I'll I'll try and sum this up as
00:33:50
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)fast as I can but basically when prohibition happened you know people said that alcohol it was not good for you it led to Deaths it led to
00:33:59
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)arguments negative things whatever prohibition happened people still found ways to have parties with alcohol drink alcohol speakes existed the only thing
00:34:11
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)that happened was people didn't stop drinking alcohol people started getting arrested and punished for it and it started ruining people's livelihoods in that way instead of in a way that they
00:34:22
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)have control over meaning that they can stop the addiction by getting help at any time mhm so my question is if you think porn is so bad like an addiction like that
00:34:34
Charlie Kirkwhat's your solution cuz if you're going to get rid of it it's still going to exist well the first solution I mean can you at least greet Molly that Miner shouldn't be viewing porn of course
00:34:43
Charlie Kirk100% for a reason well the age verification is a little bit as so let's let's talk about that Utah and Texas past laws that PornHub sued that made it more robust you had to actually provide
00:34:55
Charlie Kirkan ID and PornHub didn't like that because they said it would limit their traffic so would you all agree that if there was robust ID checking that would like 18 we can at least agree we could
00:35:06
Charlie Kirkdraw the line there yeah I feel like that's the normal age for I I'm glad glad to hear that um so on the other side though I mean I think we have to acknowledge that the average American
00:35:18
Charlie Kirkmale spending anywhere between 45 minutes to 90 minutes on porn websites it's it varies I mean this is a new phenomenon and I just want to reiterate
00:35:27
Charlie Kirkit that highly interactive three-dimensional video that triggers dopaminergic responses in the brain is unlike anything we've encountered the science is still being studied and Gary
00:35:39
Charlie KirkWilson's book is phenomenal on this you are brain on porn in fact it is the most used let's just say product we don't have to say drug product for young men in this country and I guess you would all say that let me just ask how many of
00:35:52
Charlie Kirkyou are thrilled with the status of American men you think that they're strong and conf and they tell the truth I love an American man as an Irish girl
00:36:01
Charlie Kirkdefinitely okay well then you're the are but hold on and I'm not going to say it's only because of porn because that would not be fair but porn consumption does not make better men no you agree I
00:36:14
Charlie Kirkagree 100% so that's where I'm just trying to introduce in the conversation you you said what is the solution so I would just say Molly my advice well my ask for you is you know for people to
00:36:25
Charlie Kirkstop participating in it for that's not going to happen cu the money is so good but we should draw the line at 18 there should even be it should be very very hard to access but to your point Molly you're not wrong people would always find it but we should we should try draw
00:36:38
Charlie Kirkour line of the sand somewhere especially with miners or have some sort of you know we should have some sort of acknowledgement that this is destroying parts of society and I won't say it's worse than fenel but in some ways it's
00:36:49
Charlie Kirkvery very sneaky um a lot of married men watch pornography as I said I've had my own personal struggles with it it's incredibly addictive it's incredibly um powerful it also creates depressive
00:37:00
Charlie Kirkeffects in about half of the men that consume pornography and I would just say that you know young ladies it affects women differently than men men are 50 times more visual oriented than women
00:37:11
Charlie Kirkand that's not to say that women don't consume pornography they they do and increasingly higher rates but I I think it's it's a social toxin right now I don't think that's anything hold on just
00:37:22
TTS/ChatCharlie cooken jooya donated $200 hey Charlie just want to say thank you for everything you do you are a Force for good in America great to see
00:37:33
Charlie Kirkyou on the whatever podcast question would you ever consider running for office it's it's so scripted uh no not anytime soon but thank you for the $200 to wait I have a question for you
00:37:46
Dina / Savannah (mixed)actually just cuz I don't really like know who you are but there's like a lot of you're luy you're very very luy I was just like what do you do cuz I've seen like you've mentioned politics and now that like what do you I I run an organization called Turning Point USA I a
00:37:59
Charlie Kirkconservative if you haven't figured that out uh and and a Christian and I host a 3our show every day in my name so okay cool yeah let's uh Swit I envy you that you don't know but yes I'm sorry oh
00:38:11
Brian Atlastotally fine let's uh switch gears a little bit here so going around the table asking all the girls here would you date someone who does not align with your politics so if you're a liberal would you date a conservative if you're
00:38:23
Brian Atlasconservative would you date a liberal if you're a communist would you date an an NCO capitalist I guess I don't know um so tell us what your political orientation is going around the table and if you would date somebody who
00:38:36
Sophiadiffered from you politically and if so why not starting with you go ahead um honestly I feel like I it wouldn't be
00:38:47
Sophiathat big of a decision for me I wouldn't mind I feel like I'm not that um strict about certain things and I feel like if I if I want to be be with
00:38:57
Sophiahim I'll be with him and accept him for whatever it is and maybe maybe even try to I guess well no we can't agree to disagree I feel like on certain things I
00:39:09
Brian Atlasmight actually I'm too indecisive never mind where do you fall politically um undefined okay undefined I'm not going
00:39:18
Sophiato to say it okay an anarchy Anarchist maybe I don't know not even a hint um maybe you guys can pick up randomly okay
00:39:30
Aaronthat'd be fun com Comm I don't know okay Aon what about you what about you yeah I'm B dating somebody who disagrees with me politically I already do my boyfriend's like a liberal you know which is uh filthy filthy liberal even though I'm you know further left than
00:39:42
Brian Atlashim but I love him in spite of that so oh wow okay so what if you were to put a word to how you would describe yourself politically are you a leftist yeah I'd
00:39:51
Dina / Savannah (mixed)say like a left your boyfriend's liberal okay what about you um it it kind of depends how I honestly on both sides it depends
00:40:01
Dina / Savannah (mixed)how like hardcore they are because a lot of like hardcord like stuff like that I don't even agree with like on both sides so it would kind of depend on like what they believe in or like how hardcore
00:40:14
Dina / Savannah (mixed)they are with it but I think I could I don't really I mean I'm always down to have like discussions and conversations so I think I could uh as for my like political I don't really care you don't
00:40:27
Dina / Savannah (mixed)care I would say I'm like in the middle honestly who did you vote for in the last election or did you vote most people don't vote I I I regret I regret my vote
00:40:38
Dina / Savannah (mixed)now but we could Biden unfortunately Kanye you voted for Kanye I that would have been a better choice honestly no I I voted for
00:40:47
Dina / Savannah (mixed)Biden unfortunately and you regret that I do why do you regret that uh do you see the state of the world I mean like you're smart
00:40:58
Pixie (mixed)that's why I'm just in the middle I agree with side like stuff on both sides good for you pixie what about you I'm a progressive um my last day actually
00:41:08
Brian Atlaslasted 20 minutes because of this um oh wait we have the tweets Nick pull up her tweets really quick I saw your tweets the receipts about that we have the receipts Nick go ahead how much money is
00:41:18
Brian Atlasin your guys bank account what was that we no they we had like a YouTube video randomly start playing Nick
00:41:34
Brian Atlasit uh okay I'm convinced I have to move from Miami just so I can actually find someone to date next Miami from Miami today my date lasted a to of 20 minutes because he found I was
00:41:46
Brian AtlasProgressive and then he was conservative at least it was a mutual decision on V part rather figure out long-term incompatibility quickly than waste each other's time so on that date
00:41:57
Brian Atlasof yours where you were out on a date with a conservative man who like was it kind of you said you said it was a mutual thing but was it more so you who had an issue with it was it him or was Mutual it it was pretty darn Mutual like
00:42:09
Pixie (mixed)what happened was um we were in the car we were going to go to a bar and he asked me what I did for work so then I started talking about it and he was like would it bother you if I'm a hardcore conservative and then I was like I was
00:42:22
Pixie (mixed)like well what do you mean by that because some people are like I'm a hardcore conservative and what they mean is smaller government and less taxes which is you know something I can like
00:42:30
Pixie (mixed)deal with um and then some people are like oh you know like Nick Fant style you know like so I asked him and he actually he actually said he was a huge
00:42:42
Pixie (mixed)fan of yours which is like fine that's a deal killer of Charlie or whatever Charlie oh okay okay if it was you to' be F no no no but um and he was
00:42:53
Pixie (mixed)saying like oh you know I just like I'm really he actually say that yeah I like this huge um but he was like I'm just like really hardcore conservative and I
00:43:04
Brian Atlaswas like well honestly at this point I feel like I would make you more upset than you make me upset and then you think so it seems it seems to me the C it seems to me that typically it's liberals who are not prepared to be
00:43:17
Brian Atlasfriends with conservatives versus the reverse I actually think they've done studies on this it's conservatives typically from what I've seen tend to while they disagree ideologically uh liberals just will
00:43:30
Aaronoutright hate somebody who's conservative and think they're like evil I think no I don't like that I want to get to be friends with them so I can convert them into my leftist ideology so um how was am I supposed to convert them
00:43:41
Pixie (mixed)yeah I come from a conservative family um I have a lot of close friends that are conservative so to me that's like I'm not new to disagreeing with people
00:43:51
Pixie (mixed)that's just part of life for me but yeah it just like I'm okay dating somebody who believes in like some different things than me it just depends on what extent like for example if I I
00:44:03
Pixie (mixed)want to have children in the future and if my child let's say comes out as gay And my partner's like we have to send them to conversion therapy to me that's like a hard line to me that's like no like I couldn't put my child through
00:44:15
Brian Atlasthat we can we can uh maybe come back to that specific thing um but how just curious how did you meet him oh hinge you met him on on hinge does it doesn't it allow you to disclose your political
00:44:27
Brian Atlason yeah I disclosed mine he didn't disclos his H okay so why did he go on the dud yeah he had such a big if he had such a big issue with it well okay uh we'll continue going around and then did you did you have anything in response to
00:44:39
Charlie Kirkher Charlie or no I actually think you guys made the right choice believe it or not I think you have to have value alignment I think you have to have worldview Harmony that you shouldn't date or marry people I mean you're you have kids or are you going to have kids
00:44:51
Charlie Kirkor are you going to raise them religious or not I mean just the amount of daily questions that come up in a marage marage is I mean it's 500 a day and if you see the world differently then that's a recipe for disaster so I actually think you guys made the I I
00:45:04
Aaronthink you should end up if you want to if you end up marrying somebody who sees the world the way you do yeah it would make you a happier marriage and a what it was just one issue like if I'm assuming that you're anti- choice right
00:45:15
Charlie Kirkor pro-life yeah pro- life okay so if your wife is not pro-life but everything else you guys agree would that be a deal breaker for you that one would be a deal breaker yeah cuz that's that's not like taxes right that's not that's not like
00:45:27
Charlie Kirkhey you know I believe in a 35% tax rate and I believe in a 20% tax rate it's like philosophical bearing that's right that's correct I actually have a tweet up that might relate to this
00:45:38
Nick (producer)conversation uh what do you mean you want to see the Tweet ESS it's about how women are becoming dramatically more left wing dramatic um sure we can take a
00:45:50
Brian Atlasquick look at it I yeah I think I saw this young women are becoming dramatically leftwing young men are coming more rightwing uh this is happening on every
00:46:00
Brian Atlascontinent there's South Korea us Germany UK uh scroll down just a tad so we can see the UK here
00:46:10
Charlie Kirkuh okay yeah so I'm curious why why and I'd love to I mean this like non-s sarcastically I'd love to learn why why do you think that trend is I think it's
00:46:20
Charlie Kirkbecause one side wait okay so left is so um I'm not like a huge that's so young young women are getting more in like the Joe Biden direction of the Democrat
00:46:31
Dina / Savannah (mixed)Party Progressive and young men are coming more you could say in the Trump conservative Direction I think it's more of that reason because obviously the
00:46:40
Dina / Savannah (mixed)like the Biden side or whatever you want to say um that side has more of like women's like rights and stuff so obviously like well not right now but um
00:46:52
Dina / Savannah (mixed)like just in general like that the ideas of like that side have more like Pro women things and the other side really doesn't so I think that's why I'm
00:47:02
Aarongonna ask my uh young Progressive organizer why why do you think because it's something that is I personally don't think it's very valuable to ask people to label themselves politically mostly because if somebody does that what I want them to do is like write it
00:47:16
Aarondown a piece of paper and then crumple it up and throw it away and usually just go issue by issue because I found that when you ask people what they mean by a conservative or whatever like pixie was saying earlier sometimes they'll say oh like low taxes small government or
00:47:28
Aaronwhatever but these are very nebulous terms but when you actually get into it maybe they describe themselves as conservative but more the libertarian type so they might be pro-choice still they might actually be interested in like a less interventionist like foreign
00:47:40
Aaronpolicy and then at that point those are some like liberal tenants to me so I don't think it's very useful to even try to like have people do that or you might even find some liberals that are like anti-union for
00:47:51
Nick (producer)example yeah Nick what we had like an audio issue for but it seems okay for now oh
00:47:58
Brian Atlasokay um audio issue yeah there's some [Music] Echo ABY check thank you for the gifted 50 memberships hold that thought
00:48:09
Brian Atlaseverybody uh chat one in the chat if the audio is okay one in the chat if the audio is okay um we had a echo yep it's cleared up right now it's it's okay
00:48:22
Brian Atlasnow are we able to keep talking or yeah no they can hear us but apparently there's some reports uh that we're Reverb issue it's happened once at the beginning of the show and once just now
00:48:32
Pixie (mixed)no complaints um is the chat is it fine y we're good now okay we're good sorry go ahead so I was going to say um personally I think um there has been
00:48:43
Pixie (mixed)like a big push to like radicalize young men online um you see this with the Tates you see this in some other forms of media so I think young men in particular have been um very what is it
00:48:55
Pixie (mixed)called specialized you got like these giant propaganda centers and networks focusing on trying to radicalize them in a way that they haven't necessarily put the equal focus on women so I do think that there's been a lot of like online
00:49:06
Pixie (mixed)medicalization going on I also think like personally I'm a feminist but I think um there has like feminism has kind of left men behind and kind of has not given them the answers that a lot of
00:49:18
Pixie (mixed)them are necessarily seeking um so then they turn into like these like more what I would call toxic figures instead for guidance so that's my answer when it comes to like this increased like
00:49:33
Charlie Kirkradicalization what what could um what could conservatives do better to reach young women what could conserv this not a TR trap question I'm honestly curious yeah um I kind of don't want to give you
00:49:44
Pixie (mixed)that I'll give you the answer oh it's a secret recipe I'll give it I'm you're going to give it in front of 5 million people no but I think a lot of um conservatives really villainize young
00:49:56
Pixie (mixed)women and like the choices that they take um you see this not in this particular podcast necessarily but there's some that are more extreme than this that um really focus on like shaming women or putting some like
00:50:08
TTS/Chatbasically cultural hypocrisy like saying it's okay for men to be promiscuous but women aren't um G One Motorsports donated $200 I would not say young men have been
00:50:19
TTS/Chatradicalized I would say that young men are being reminded they are men and not women and that real men value women because we are not equal yo thank you Grim one appreciate it go ahead pixie and I I if you can make your point
00:50:32
Pixie (mixed)quickly cuz I do want to bring in everybody else so they can answer the original question go ahead yeah but long story short I think um trying to not be hypocritical about how we treat men and women and not necessarily like shaming women for their past or how they
00:50:45
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)currently are is probably a better way to reach to them in my humble opinion okay okay so honestly I'm not too educated on politics that I can say I'm
00:50:56
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)one thing um but I do think that my views do lean um more Progressive um but again I'm not too educated on the topic
00:51:05
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)um but I think I could date someone I have dated someone who was um conservative um but for me it's more there's make or breaks like you were
00:51:16
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)saying about um you know if your wife was you know pro-choice and you um are not um that would be something that I could be like oh you know that's where I draw the just certain things that you know morally I could not be with someone
00:51:30
Dina / Savannah (mixed)who had those views what about you um I'm not really big into politics either I don't really understand it all I know is that I'm pro-choice I like equality um but yeah I
00:51:42
Dina / Savannah (mixed)don't know I do agree though that you partner you need to have the like similar mindset so it might be a bit difficult if I was to be with somebody that had a very strong political opinion usually I just go for people that are
00:51:55
Dina / Savannah (mixed)quite open-minded and chill um but I think I could be open still cuz I like to learn new things when I'm with Partners so it could open my mind even a bit more and I could probably learn about politics then Molly what about you
00:52:07
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)well I kind of I agree with what you said um I've actually my ex-boyfriend was very prominent in politics and he's very conservative and um I'm not at all
00:52:18
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)um so that was definitely like an interesting Dynamic but I think overall we like really like respected each other's perspective
00:52:28
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)um and you know I don't think that like conservatives are evil or like they have like a a bad agenda I just personally
00:52:39
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)like I don't agree with what they would decide for me if you know um and so I think that in a relationship when you're with someone that shares different values it would be extremely hard to be
00:52:52
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)married to someone for the rest of your life it's doable um especially you know if you have that type of curiosity with the other person but I for sure would
00:53:01
Brian Atlaswant to be with someone who shares my kind of openness as well okay and then Charlie I think you kind of maybe already went over it but I mean do you have any thoughts on you know do you do you think it's a better idea for people
00:53:14
Brian Atlaswhen it comes to relationships or marriage to I mean I think I have I have a sense of what your answer would be but to uh marry someone who shares their same political beliefs and values don't don't try to change your partner that's
00:53:27
Brian Atlasthat's a bad idea agree yeah don't try to change your partner don't yeah Ain you said earlier your your boyfriend you said he's well he's not conservative but he's liberal and you're much further
00:53:38
Brian Atlasleft you're a leftist um and you said you would you know when he comes to perhaps people you would be friends with someone who's maybe more conservative so you can shift them more
00:53:49
Brian Atlasleft but well I was going to ask have you shifted your boyfriend more left okay so he's pretty firm in he's firmly planted in his filthy filthy liberalism but I love him in spite of that I see
00:54:01
Aaronokay got it but we align on a lot of social issues so if we want to like create a dichotomy of like social and not economic issues feel like the economic issues is primarily where we have disagreement and the social issues those tend to be I feel like the most polarizing and contentious so if we had
00:54:14
Aaronmore disagreement there we probably would not be able to be in a relationship together harmoniously so okay I see but friends yeah I'm open to radicalizing them sure okay got it got
00:54:24
Brian Atlasit so who here I'm curious who here considers themselves a feminist maybe just show of hands are you a
00:54:32
Brian Atlasfeminist I don't that's it just Aaron and pixie Molly a little bit okay all right uh so Charlie we've got some feminists here what do you think of uh
00:54:45
Charlie Kirkwhat do you think of feminism I want them to define the term first because there's no use in me sure sure giving thoughts on a abstract concept so I'm all your what's your sense how do you
00:54:55
Aarondefine feminism feminism is just simply the advocacy of equality both social political economic on the basis of all genders everywhere so that's what
00:55:06
Brian Atlasfeminism is to me do you concur I concur do you concur concurred okay okay so you want me to thought on that you agree with their definition of
00:55:18
Charlie Kirkfeminism um she I mean that would probably be the most agreed upon definition um so I do believe in equality under the law obviously I
00:55:28
Charlie Kirkbelieve in equality for representation or inran to be able to vote obviously um but you said economic equality that that's interesting do you think that
00:55:40
Charlie Kirkfemale models and male models should be paid the Same by law yeah yep okay so we should make female actresses and models P be paid less because they get they earn about 20
00:55:52
Aarontimes more than men I think when you get women would get a pay cut I think when it comes to creative Fields like that it's going to be very difficult to look at it on the basis of like sex or gender how you would pay somebody because that's going to have so many more
00:56:05
Aaronfactors and simply that but if we're talking about equal economic opportunities like for example should like a man and woman doing the exact same position at a corporate office be paid the same if they're doing the same amount of work then well depends depends
00:56:18
Charlie Kirkon what they studied depends how long they've been there it depends if they're equally as good at the job it depends how all else being equal I'm saying if all of those things are equal can at least agree they should be that's already that's already the law so you're
00:56:29
Charlie Kirknot allowed to discriminate based on gender or sex based on a law passed in the 197s however what is now being tried to be passed through other movements is to
00:56:39
Charlie Kirktry to swoop in and say regardless of qualifications how often you ask for a raise so I'll ask a question um why why do you think for example the average
00:56:51
Charlie Kirkmale it looks as if they earn more than an average woman in a city is it because of sexism or other factors I think sometimes implicit bias can be one factor among many but like all the
00:57:03
Aaronthings that you mentioned earlier different qualifications different uh business Acumen skills um work output numbers of hours work could all be things that impact pain and like studies that like focus on the gaps between men
00:57:16
Charlie Kirkand women like do make make note of these differences okay uh skiz Tech thank you for the gift to 100 Subs uh Charlie do you have a response uh no I hear that I do want to actually get back to even
00:57:28
Pixie (mixed)more of a fundamental question and I'm sorry I didn't ask this true what is a woman oh a woman is somebody who presents as our social conception of Womanhood acts in such a way so pixie