Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Charlie Kirk vs. Feminists & E-Girls! | Dating Talk #130
Date: 2024-01-29
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Charlie Kirk(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Aaron(guest)
SPEAKER_11Pixie (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_13Dina / Savannah (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Molly Little / Angel (mixed)(guest)
Key Moments
00:08:40
OtherCharlie Kirk reveals he waited until marriage for sex
“Charlie Kirk says waiting until marriage was 'the greatest decision of my life'”
00:12:42
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about her father relationship
“Charlie Kirk asks Molly if she has a good relationship with her father; Molly says she doesn't talk to him. Kirk: 'I'm not surprised.'”
00:31:45
OtherCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about porn addiction and compares it to drug dealing
“Kirk asks if porn is a drug, compares porn performers to drug dealers; panel pushes back strongly.”
00:52:10
OtherMolly Little says she would not quit porn for $1 million/year
“Charlie Kirk offers hypothetical $1M/year if she quit porn; Molly says no, she would still do it because she is an exhibitionist.”
00:57:28
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks panel 'What is a woman?'
“Kirk presses Pixie and Aaron for biological definition of woman; panelists give social constructivist answers. Kirk: 'There are zero genders, two sexes, and infinite personalities.'”
02:37:33
OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show
“Brian thanks Charlie Kirk; Kirk plugs TPUSA.com and The Charlie Kirk Show podcast. Kirk thanks show for being 'the most respectful' he's seen.”
03:18:30
OtherMolly Little's body count revealed from viral Twitter clip
“Brian reveals Molly's viral Twitter clip claiming body count over 100; Molly clarifies mostly from shoots, fewer than 10 off-camera civilians.”
03:20:15
OtherDina Snows reveals she hooked up with a trans woman (not knowing at first)
“Dina describes OF shoot with a trans woman where she did not know beforehand the person had male genitalia; briefly performed oral.”
05:55:10
OtherSelf-rating round begins
“Brian prompts Stiffler chat donation request: everyone rates their looks 1-10. Results: Sophia=9, Molly=10, Aaron<10, Dina=8, Brian=5.”
06:20:00
OtherDina Snows recounts hotel gangbang story
“Dina describes leaving a boring guy in hotel lobby to hook up with a sports coach and his manager — a foursome in sequence.”
06:21:00
OtherDina Snows discusses labiaplasty
“Dina shares she got a labiaplasty for cosmetic and physical discomfort reasons; asymmetry caused discomfort and she felt self-conscious while filming OF content.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:06
Introductions & Relationship Status
Guests introduce themselves; Brian asks about relationship status and longest relationships. Charlie Kirk introduces himself and shares marriage/family perspective.
00:06:40
Hookup Culture & Purpose of Dating
Charlie Kirk advocates dating with intent to marry; sex as sacred. Guests debate hookup culture, open relationships, and casual sex. Molly Little discusses porn and open relationship dynamic.
00:13:20
What Is Love — Definitions
Panel goes around table defining love. Greek words for love (philia, storge, eros, agape) introduced by Charlie Kirk. Discussion of fear of commitment.
00:32:40
Porn Addiction & Social Effects
Charlie Kirk argues porn is a social toxin with drug-like addiction; references 'Your Brain on Porn' by Gary Wilson. Panel debates regulation, age verification, and comparison to drug prohibition.
00:38:36
Political Orientation & Dating Across Party Lines
Guests reveal political orientations; debate whether they can date someone with opposing politics. Pixie's 20-minute date story. Gender divergence in political affiliation discussed. Charlie Kirk on value alignment in marriage.
00:54:24
Feminism — Definition & Debate
Aaron and Pixie identify as feminist; Charlie Kirk asks them to define it. Debate over equal pay, gender wage gap, and economic equality.
00:57:28
What Is a Woman — Gender Identity Debate
Charlie Kirk asks panelists to define 'woman' without circular definition. Debate on biological sex vs social gender construction. Trans rights, puberty blockers, trans kids, detransitioners, and gender dysphoria discussed at length.
01:52:00
Abortion Debate
Panel debates abortion rights. Charlie Kirk gives his pro-life position. Statistics on abortion rates. Aaron and others argue pro-choice positions.
02:37:33
Charlie Kirk Departs; Madison Joins
Charlie Kirk thanks the show, plugs TPUSA; leaves around 157min. Madison (Whatever Podcast staff) joins the panel. Andrew Wilson attempted call-in but mic cord snapped; never joined.
02:39:13
Dina Snows — AVN, Labiaplasty, Relationship Views
Dina discusses AVN convention experience, labiaplasty (medical + cosmetic reasons), sleeping through friend groups, hotel gangbang story, open relationship preferences, and difficulty with commitment.
03:16:40
Body Count Discussion
Molly Little's 100+ body count (mostly on-camera) discussed after viral Twitter clip. Panel debates whether body count matters for dating.
03:36:00
Orgasm Gap & Sexual Experience
Discussion on percentage of men able to make female partners orgasm. Orgasm gap, multiple orgasms, squirting, gooning/edging discussed.
05:55:19
Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)
Stiffler chat donation prompts self-rating round. Sophia: 9. Molly: 10. Aaron: less than 10. Dina: 8. Brian: 5. Panel debates delusion of self-rating 10.
06:03:50
Financial Dynamics in Dating — Provider Role
Sophia's story of supporting unemployed boyfriend. Debate on whether women should expect financial provision even when they earn more. Brian discusses provider role; plays TikTok "70k boyfriend" clip.
Transcript
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03:50:31
Aaronthat's the patriarchy babes it lives throughout all of us it can be upheld by men and women is my point because you're you're speaking to ex we're both I feel like we're both we're not we're kind of talking fast each other because we mostly agree that there's examples of men starting Warfare women starting
03:50:44
AaronWarfare and it playing off each other and it not even necessarily coming down to gender specifically it just happens to have been the case that was the patriarchy stronger 100 years ago yeah
03:50:54
Brian Atlasit was strong yeah so would it would it be to the this supposed patriarchy's
03:51:00
Brian Atlasbenefit if women were not allowed to vote Yes so explain to me how in 1920 or
03:51:10
Brian AtlasI guess 1918 or throughout the the 1910s you know the suffrage movement how could it be if men had a strangle hold on on the right to
03:51:21
Brian Atlasvote and we were under like a very brutal patriarchy why did men who had all the control why did they relinquish their supposed control to women couldn't we use the wait wa wait wait no wait
03:51:34
Pixie (mixed)question question wait couldn't we use the same analogy when it comes to like the Civil Rights Act for example like why did white people who hold the majority of power give black people like the right to vote or whatever and that answer is the
03:51:45
Pixie (mixed)same gender and race is a little different yeah no no but it's it's a basis the basis principle is the same it was a greater amount of protest social pressure it was people basically saying like hey if you don't do this we're
03:51:56
Brian Atlasgoing to like revolve I think it was yes I think it's absolutely right that we gave all people the right to vote yeah because I'm in
03:52:07
Brian Atlasfavor I'm in favor of women being able to vote yeah exactly but that doesn't answer my question if there was a patriarchy and and it was to men's benefit to maintain men as a gender cuz
03:52:18
Brian Atlasyou kind of you kind of try to bring it to race for some reason if it was to the patriarchy's benefit for men to be able to maintain power why did they allow and there was a patriarchy why did they
03:52:30
Pixie (mixed)allow women the right to vote the patriarchy is a system that can be amended and changed over time which is why it was weaker now than it was 100 there is no Grand here's the thing yeah
03:52:40
Brian Atlasduring feminist conspiracy theory that there's a patriarchy because it's just a you dis agree that 100 years ago women didn't have the right to vote because of men I can give you a better parallel that doesn't invol of men I can give you
03:52:53
Brian Atlasa better parallel that doesn't involve race do you know who president wait I actually want pixie to answer the question though how could it conceivably be when men did have the power and if there is and was a patriarchy and if
03:53:03
Brian Atlasthat patriarchy was much stronger a hundred years ago why did the patriarchy opt to basically surrender its power to
03:53:12
Pixie (mixed)women if there was a Archy because that time 1910 to 1920s um correct me if I'm wrong World War I right around that World War II no it's World War I World
03:53:24
Pixie (mixed)War I um what is it social dynamics were changing women started getting more into the workforce as well women started applying more social pressure the suffer Jets were literally like you know
03:53:35
Pixie (mixed)inciting bombings and such so yeah a level of social pressure causes people on top to get scared and change stuff just like it's happened throughout history like that doesn't mean that the power ructure didn't exist it just means that it's amendable to change with
03:53:48
Aaronenough pressure they had to shift it to stay in power exactly well the mine that didn't involve race I was do you know who president FDR was yes the New Deal you're familiar with
03:53:59
Aaronthis okay the New Deal was actually proposed wait what's going on back there wait hello huh
03:54:10
Aaronwhat hello are you guys coming back or okay go ahead go ahead go ahead okay so you're familiar with FDR and the New Deal yes yes that was actually proposed
03:54:22
Aaronas a compromise to socialism to maintain capitalism like FDR basically did the New Deal to save capitalism because he said if we do not compromise in this way and give people basically Civic infrastructure some free healthare all of these things they're
03:54:35
Aarongoing to revolt and want socialism so similarly with patriarchy There Was You Could See voting rights at that point as a compromise which is that we will give we will inran women with the right to vote but we're not necessarily going to give them forc representation because if
03:54:48
Aaronwe don't give them this right which is becoming increasingly popular women could revolt and that would not be good for men especially as women were gaining more economic power because like she was saying they were getting into the workforce so it began to transform so it was a compromise but it wasn't the total
03:55:00
Brian Atlasrelinquishment of their power then you can just convince those women to vote in the interest of men if the ultimate goal though of the of the patriarchy is to maintain uh men
03:55:11
Brian Atlashaving power uh it would occur to me me that it would it would not be to the patriarchy's benefit to allow women to vote and they didn't allow women to vote that wasn't
03:55:24
Pixie (mixed)something that men imbued with women automatically women fought for that right yeah the alternative is to have your entire system burn and crash to the ground because people are revolting right so they give that there's actually a it's like a pement there was a fair
03:55:36
Brian Atlasamount of women who actually and again I just want to reiterate I'm I'm I'm in favor of women voting but there's actually air amount of women who did not want the right to vote yeah there's
03:55:48
Brian Atlasconservative feminist now what's interesting to me though is that women were able to secure the right to vote without the corresponding responsibility yeah I don't think I think everybody has an inherent right or should have an inherent right to vote I
03:56:01
Brian Atlasdon't think you have to sign up to a draft to vote but that's that's sort of the Genesis of feminism is securing rights without any sort of corresponding responsibilities I think the men of the patriarchy then should have forced the
03:56:13
Aaronconscription when they gave them the suffrage the voting if they were being smart they would have forced them honestly of course I would agree with you that it's unconstitutional I don't think that men should be conscript simply on the basis of sex well right and that brings us back to the whole
03:56:25
Brian Atlasthing of well the draft is never going away so what needs to occur in the name of equality is you need to equalize the draft between men and women I disagree I think the draft could theoretically go
03:56:36
Pixie (mixed)away majority of milit yeah the vast majority of um people in military right now anyways um are people from like military Ames like and they're not in combat position the thing is though in
03:56:48
Brian Atlasthe event like you cannot it's not a I'm trying to think you can't get a get rid of the draft I I know it's you know rainbows and
03:57:01
Aaronbutterflies I think you prob there's other countries that have abolished the draft what's that there's other countries that have abolished the draft which ones I would not be able to name there's there's countries that don't
03:57:11
Brian Atlashave drafts in place um I think almost all countries I'd have to Google this I'm I'm not familiar with like the the
03:57:20
Brian Atlasdraft situation in Camaroon for example but um I'm talk equalize the draft anyways I do feel like we we should try to include some other people on some dating related stuff but let's be honest
03:57:33
Brian Atlasyou know patriarchy C on for for for you know feminism cute phras you got there it's it's it's a conspiracy theory it's
03:57:43
Aaronconspiracy guys can I just say this less than 50 years ago women were literally it was illegal for a woman to hold open a bank account in her own name or have a credit card I would need the fact I need the fact check look it up I promise you
03:57:55
Brian Atlasreally I invite you to look that up that's cool and 50 and again like we can we can have like a compare and contrast the ways in which I'm not doing oppression Olympic I'm just I like oppression Olympic because here's
03:58:07
Brian Atlashere's my whole thing right and and this whole patriarchy you know there there's this male privilege myth um as Warren FAL it's it's totally dismissed
03:58:18
Brian Atlasby okay here how here's the best way I can put it all feminist arguments about oppression are basically Dead on Arrival because men have in fact been more
03:58:31
Brian Atlasoppressed than women you win the victim contest I win yeah here's the thing all of women's Collective griev grievances fall flat in
03:58:41
Brian Atlasthe face of just one male griev and that's military conscription what do you think is like an example of a female grievance the very short period for
03:58:52
Brian Atlasexample where um and this is actually related to military conscription the very very short period in human history where some men or most men were able to
03:59:04
Brian Atlasvote and women weren't do you think it's a very short period of human history because if you look at it uh I don't have the exact dates memorized but for example uh if
03:59:14
Brian Atlasyou go back to the 1700s most men couldn't vote then too what equalized it was men could be subject to military conscription they had a more and they
03:59:25
Brian Atlascould go be forced to go die because of that uh responsibility that men had that women were were did
03:59:35
Brian Atlasnot have that was the basis for giving men earlier access to having the right to vote for but throughout throughout most of human history men uh you know most men were not able
03:59:47
Pixie (mixed)to vote yeah you're getting you're getting somewhere here with Brian what I would argue you're getting at is that like hey guess what men have been conscripted etc etc um but there's always been a certain amount of people
03:59:59
Pixie (mixed)in power who never really have to worry about conscription always kind of had the right to vote and it's usually men who are rich right it's a very small percentage of men though so for the 99%
04:00:10
Brian Atlasof like the common folk don't receive any of these privileges but the point of the whole page chart the whole idea of it's essentially an apex fallacy no wait let me finish please you're attributing you're you're
04:00:22
Brian Atlasattributing the characteristics of a few to to the top treatment of like this top 1% of men and keep in mind these men had families and they had wives and they had daughters who also reaped certain
04:00:34
Pixie (mixed)benefits but I'm going to draw a parallel to race here I know you say they're different they are different but give me a second let me make my argument when it comes to like basically the racial history of the United States what
04:00:46
Pixie (mixed)happened is that you had some really white wealthy land owners who convinced other people that were poor whites who didn't have the same benefits as them that hey you know what you are superior than other black people on the basis of
04:00:58
Pixie (mixed)your race and the patriarchy does something very similar where you have some very rich powerful men convincing other poorer men hey you know what you guys are superior than women on the basis of your sex you're more logical or
04:01:09
Pixie (mixed)you're smarter or you should be entitled to rights that women don't have or you should be entitled to Promotions that women shouldn't have you know what women should even be in the workforce that's where you belong what evidence do you have for
04:01:20
Pixie (mixed)that literally all like historical arguments that go against like why women should be able to be in the workforce or why they should have a bank account or why they should be able to vot donated
04:01:30
TTS/Chat$200 chat can you imagine being as brain dead as and pixie honestly I'm favoring demon over these to even though demons tits are out wild panel you ever
04:01:42
Brian Atlastraveled International with a man well okay um modest Tama appreciate your patronage I mean I actually want to give credit to Ain I think she's very uh she's very sharp and very very smart
04:01:53
Brian Atlassame with Pixie so thank you um so you know definitely not brain dead I disagree with them though on the feminism patriarchy stuff on our QA on
04:02:03
Brian Atlasconspiracy yeah it's it's it's a it's a conspiracy theory um but uh okay and I again I want to try to reel in some of the other panelists here so I feel like we we shouldn't linger too long on this
04:02:15
TTS/Chatbut I mean just to wrap up my point basically my oh GD One Motorsports donated $200 more men than women voted for women to vote dot seems women were happy to
04:02:28
TTS/Chatvote in local elections rather than National more countries require mandatory military service for both sexes accuracy matters yo gri One Motorsports hey
04:02:40
Brian Atlasreally uh thank you man appreciate it more countries require mandatory military services wait more countries uh wait of the ones that still have the conscription they make women be
04:02:51
Aaronconscripted to like Israel or South Korea like women have to serve also most I mean actually there's I don't think they have to do combat necessarily but they do have to serve in the military and a capacity of some sorts well I mean
04:03:02
Brian Atlasmost most countries conscriptions only mail MH um and there's actually in Switzerland for example which is a Western Country uh if you it's you
04:03:14
Brian Atlasactually have to uh do military service in Switzerland for a couple years M what's going onergy oh okay yeah um and there's
04:03:27
Brian Atlasactually ramifications as a man only as a man if you don't I think there's certain I don't know if I don't want to misquote it but I think you guys can look in in Switzerland you have to um
04:03:38
Brian Atlasthere's some sort of fine you have to pay or that your taxes are a little higher I I I could be slightly off here but there are some negative consequences to men if you opt out of um those penalties yeah so um let's not linger
04:03:52
Brian Atlastoo long on that but the point I was trying to make is I think forced military conscription is a bigger grievance than all of women's Collective grievances
04:04:02
Aaroncombined so yeah and you mentioned for example that well 50 years ago uh women couldn't open what was it checking account it was illegal for a woman to open a bank account cred card don't know
04:04:14
Brian Atlasif that's actually true sounds insane how much progress we've made in 50 years what I would say if we go back to the Vietnam War that's about 50 years ago too there are men who were conscripted
04:04:25
Brian Atlaswhich women were not subject to there are men that were conscripted that died that would be alive today had they not been conscripted and there are men alive
04:04:35
Brian Atlastoday that were conscripted who have suffered terrible injuries or PTSD or saw just absolutely brutal things so you know a lot of people say when I bring up Force military conscription
04:04:47
TTS/Chatwell when's the last time there's a draft there are men like I just said who would have been alive today or donated $200 love that I fostered the conversation around the patriarchy but
04:04:58
TTS/Chatstill want to hear from the panel do you ever consider you will regret Your Life Choices later because of the echo chamber you're in they phrased it better this time going around the table if you guys want to answer Molly let's start
04:05:10
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)with you go ahead Molly uh I know I will not regret my life choices because all the choices I'm making now are getting me one step further to my goals every day that was beautiful um honestly I'm not going to lie sometimes I do get down
04:05:22
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)about what I do and I'm like I can't take it back I'm in it now but then it only lasts for a short time and then I'm like yeah this is just my life I agree with both of them um I love what I do but um I also do sometimes just worry
04:05:35
Pixie (mixed)about um you know the fact that it is the internet is forever um I love my work I don't do only fans though so I guess it's like not the same grievances but I'm very
04:05:46
Dina / Savannah (mixed)happy with my life generally I just got to find a guy not in Miami good times I also agree um I do think about a lot like obviously the
04:05:56
Aaroninternet is forever um but do I regret it probably not I don't regret anything I love my blue pilled life okay what about you um I don't
04:06:08
Sophiaregret anything I don't think I'll ever regret anything I I feel like I life is so short and it's so fleeting and I don't know I just like to live in the moment of everything oh sorry no I don't
04:06:20
Aaronregret anything I feel like a life without regret is one that you lived so carefully that you basically failed by default because you didn't take any risks or you're just such a
04:06:29
Brian Atlaslegend that everything you've done has just perfect just a total I'm a Legend you know um sweet thank
04:06:39
Brian Atlasyou what was his name Shinobi sorry Apollo Apollo thank you Apollo we have Wolf Wolf Gang Puck thank you just donating to give Molly some love I love
04:06:50
Brian Atlas# call me call me simp ready to be judged you have been judged simp just kidding thank you appreciate thank you for the patronage appreciate it man all right uh let's get okay finally let's
04:07:00
Brian Atlasget into some of the you know some of the pre-show notes here let's see one sec guys pulling these up okay T okay the we got derailed because of the Tina said she hooked up the trans girl before we're going to move on from that uh
04:07:12
Dina / Savannah (mixed)finom you do f tell us a little bit about the fom yes that's that's another big income for me I get a lot of cooks on simps CS I have like a whole Army of them to be honest you've got an army
04:07:24
Dina / Savannah (mixed)yeah basically you've got a cuck SLS Army yeah basically um and they can either just be simps or I have these things called BBC cooks and they're white guys with small dicks actually not
04:07:35
TTS/Chatalways small dicks there's one guy that has a big one but he still just has his fetish of girls and black guys modest heima donated 200 $100 brixon I think you either need to look up the
04:07:47
Aarondefinition of the term pseudo intellectual or stop being a s I hope it's not the second my Doom wait are sing is when you don't call us brain dead I'm pretty sure that's what they're referencing no I mean I don't think it's
04:08:00
Pixie (mixed)sing though for me according to them sing to give you flowers like I think you're a smart person like I don't I don't know basically because you're not calling us a dumb ho and
04:08:10
TTS/Chatlikeing Bender the offender donated 200 $100 oh go if there is a patriarchy how come women who falsely accuse a man of great perceive little to no consequences um I'm in favor of
04:08:23
Brian Atlasconsequences for people who do that I agree I actually I think I actually think it should be a sex crime to be honest I think you should be on the sex offender registry if you falsely accuse somebody of of that because I mean that's absolutely slanderous lious I
04:08:36
Brian Atlasmean and it's it's one of the worst things that can happen to a guy so um good you won't find here for that word um wait hold on where was oh well I mean
04:08:48
Brian Atlasjust on that though like I actually do think one thing and those first off those of you who you know are supporters and patrons of the show I very much am
04:08:58
Brian Atlasgrateful and thankful thankful for your patronage I do think though just as a measure to almost protect me I do think like the Optics of like when somebody
04:09:09
Brian Atlasdoes send in like a $200 super chat or whatever or TTS and they're like calling the women on the panels like basically ad hom names it's like it's not even it's not a good look for the platform
04:09:21
Brian Atlasand I think it might make like other women hesitant to come on so I think you can still get across your point without like calling them whes basically so I would apprec also guys I
04:09:34
Brian Atlasand again I'm very appreciative of the patrons but like I almost think if you can look at it from if you want to dunk on them in like a polite way
04:09:44
Brian Atlasa polite way also what I need you guys to protect me because I do think if I am ever like being considered for The Chopping Block on YouTube like they
04:09:55
Aaroncould take a look at like whoa this is like the TS is toxic this the patriarch at work because you're finding a way to compromise on the misogyny so you're like let's keep it a little bit nicer you guys and we don't get the channel in trouble CU if you're a little too
04:10:07
Brian Atlasexplicit with it that has nothing to do oh my I don't know why you're bringing it to the patriarchy that's just I don't want to get a z I don't want to get your own no but she's baiting you I am no but
04:10:17
Brian Atlasit's like I I do think I do think for the sake of the channel looks better to be positive I think it'd be like you can still dunk but like have to do name calling avoid name
04:10:30
Aaroncalling for the sake of me bro you guys want to see me get banned a lot of other people are getting demonetized and I think it should be if they want to do an insult they have to also attack the
04:10:41
Aaronargument as well if you just say if you just call a name I think it's mean if you call me like stupid but also have a reason here's why I think you're stupid then I don't think that's as bad well it also just looks weak on the person giving out the comment because it's like
04:10:54
Brian Atlasokay you can't really attack what they're saying so you just have to call them stupid they're also spending hundreds of dollars to do so like that's so pathetic but a lot of the guys who like super chat they're patrons of the show and I do think that they actually
04:11:06
Brian Atlasgenuinely like the show so almost as a like I think that it's it it would be good if they take into consideration the fact
04:11:17
Brian Atlasthat YouTube has demonetized a couple other people in this space and so in furtherance of keeping my head off of The Chopping Block keeping the channel
04:11:29
Brian Atlasoff The Chopping Block I should do as much as I can to you know keep the show obviously you know we can still have these sorts of conversations but do so in as polite and diplomatic a way as
04:11:41
Brian Atlaspossible without you know resorting to uh basically insults so uh leave that to Brian no I try not to insult the people on the show for the most part but anyways um okay where were we oh some of
04:11:53
Brian Atlasthe chats came in appreciate it guys uh we have grid One Motorsports did I read this one uh Brian would could open a checking account at any point in history however in some states a married woman could not open a checking account in her
04:12:06
Aaronname only and needed her husband's permission okay okay so that tells me that single women were forbidden from opening a bank account because if you the only way could open a checking account was through being married to a man then you could not reasonably exercise that I would like to do some
04:12:18
Brian Atlasmore research on that I implore you research on that okay uh all right so back to the notes Here guys appreciate all the the TTS say thank you uh we're talking about
04:12:30
Dina / Savannah (mixed)Thom you're talking about cucks and simps yeah basically and if for anyone who doesn't know findom it's Financial domination so people just send me hundreds of dollars to insult them say I
04:12:43
Dina / Savannah (mixed)would never get with them say they're Unworthy of me and just kind of uplift myself and put them down and then I also have the BBC cooks and they're basically just kind of like the simps as well but they they're into girls that like black
04:12:54
Brian Atlasguys I don't know and then it's a bit of a race thing but bit controversial could be oh if I can just add one thing to my um caution when it comes to CU you guys
04:13:06
Brian Atlasare kind of like part of the community right and so if you guys and I we will come back to you uh so there there's been some like um websites that will
04:13:17
Brian Atlasactually clip some of the super chats or TTS that comes through and it's certainly plausible that YouTube could
04:13:25
Brian Atlasuse the super chats or the TTS as pretext for demonetizing or somehow getting the channel in trouble so if you guys like ride with whatever and like
04:13:37
Brian Atlasthe channel again if you guys want to like roast that's fine but I think try to roast in as like uh more playful more lighthearted or factful yeah like more
04:13:48
Brian Atlaslight-hearted just uh in furtherance of keeping you guys want the show to continue right keeping the channel on you keeping you know the channel on YouTube keeping it safe um I wish it
04:14:00
TTS/Chatwasn't you know I wish it wasn't cuz I sometimes think we air perhaps sometimes I've aired too much on the side of like trying to sense donated $200 Aon your math is wrong any woman
04:14:12
TTS/Chatcould open a check account just married women needed her husband's permission and that was a banking policy not to law please make intelligent arguments the more we talk about this the more money
04:14:24
Brian Atlasyou wake do you want to keep talking about it every every time it gets me he really wants to talk about $200 um maybe we can come back to it later but and then I I mean aside just from like my uh
04:14:36
Brian Atlasmy own self-interest when it comes to the YouTube channel I also just think for the sake of the other panelists here I think it's it would be good if because I I don't want people to like feel shut down in the
04:14:47
Brian Atlasconversation and some people some of you are been on the internet you can handle like the toxicity but sometimes we have people are not quite as involved in the Internet space and I feel like it can
04:14:59
Brian Atlaslike really shut feel like make we had one girl cry yeah when a couple shows ago and so like I it's um so I I I wouldn't want someone to feel like oh I don't want to go on the podcast I
04:15:12
Brian Atlaswouldn't want girls to I don't want to go on podcast cuz the ttss are just brutal and toxic and stuff so um anyways moving on guys um so I want to go around the table from
04:15:23
Brian AtlasTina's thing um do any of you currently have a sugar daddy or sugar baby sugar baby yeah any you any of you currently have a sugar daddy or had a
04:15:34
Sophiasugar daddy no no basically like online ones and a little closer to the mic if you can no I do not have a sugar daddy
04:15:42
Dina / Savannah (mixed)but I kind of want one okay nope never have had one either I also don't have one but I would like
04:15:51
Brian Atlasone so hit me up in the past at all or no nope and I reject it I do wait Sophia you don't have because I mean like what about the
04:16:04
Brian Atlasguys who are on your o is that that's why that's why I said I was like well online I guess yeah what what about like U you don't get dudes dming you directly on Instagram her like I want to just pay
04:16:16
Sophiayou a th000 bucks yeah yeah there's people that like directly contact me or like ask to even like fly me out can I have you tilt your mic down just to 10 yeah there's yeah there's definitely people that like directly dm' me and like asked to fly me out but sure just
04:16:29
Sophiafor my own safety I've never done anything like that okay uh so okay she said she has a sugar daddy you got sugar daddy okay he bought
04:16:39
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)this outfit shout out okay there you go Molly what about you uh I don't have a sugar daddy anymore but I've had a few in the past okay I'm curious I even answer that yes answer yeah yeah I I
04:16:52
Brian Atlasdon't have a sugar daddy I've also had some of the past so it's just basic answer we so we had a girl on the show a couple actually she's been on the show twice and she was very much into this like finom stuff and she said that she
04:17:04
Brian Atlaswould actually and I don't know if she's exaggerating she would actually bankrupt men and she's and that you love that I love it I think it's it's like yeah you're going to only eat beans and toast
04:17:14
Aaronthis week because your money is mine that take isn't that what they want yeah that are being fom they literally wanted to be
04:17:24
Brian Atlasself-destructive but at what at what point like is there some onus on the the dominat or the Dom woman I don't know what the term is I mean it's their money they're consenting to it so yeah but
04:17:35
Brian Atlasit's what time are you taking advantage of somebody who may very well be like mentally something I don't considerate yeah it's like if somebody like I think people should have the right to basically take drugs in general but if
04:17:47
Pixie (mixed)you know somebody's about to like overdose or like up their life permanently because of it I think have a moral responsibility to be like No like is that is it is it a kink for like a
04:17:57
Brian Atlasguy wants to I to me it's hard for me to wrap my head around it but they want it it would turn them on to bankrupt themselves that seems or maybe it's just engaged in the fantasy if I were a fom I
04:18:10
Aaronwould be skeptical that they had really been bankrupted that they weren't playing it up just because of the fantasy of the moment you know like I thought it was yeah until like people actually start I need to see like
04:18:22
Aaronbank accounts and router numbers to actually verify that they're really really drained because I don't even think the most DieHard like guy who wants to be fomed would actually let it get to that point but I could be wrong yeah you never know though word wait so
04:18:34
Dina / Savannah (mixed)I'm curious like um have you ever bankrupted a dude um well I've definitely like taken like their last euros and stuff but as they say I don't know if it's very true but like it's like is it a role play it kind of is
04:18:47
Dina / Savannah (mixed)like you're kind of like being like I don't know it's a lot of chatting you kind of have to like convince them to send you all their money and okay I don't know it's it's it's a lot of like
04:18:57
Brian Atlastechnical what's the most from any one given Guy what's the most total that a guy's given you total like a s or I guess like I've had like some any any guy who's giv you money what's the most
04:19:09
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)total amount of money that a guy is giv you honestly not too much much uh maybe just a couple thousand or something couple thousand anybody else here you had a sugar daddy what was your situation with him uh yeah I had one in
04:19:21
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)the past but I also again still have one now the most that they've given me was like wait that kind of reminds me of something hold on wait I used to do
04:19:30
Brian Atlasdrugs I still do but I used to too okay sorry go ahead okay Mitch Hedberg comedian okay rest in peace rest in peace did I say good I sound grammatically incorrect okay no it's
04:19:42
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)perfect um um no yeah the most I've gotten is like like 3,000 total total a single one one payment oh so I'm I'm asking like
04:19:53
Brian Atlastotal like a guy sent you 10 payments and it totaled to what that's so so you so when you said 3,000 earlier you were saying the
04:20:03
Brian Atlasbiggest individual payment that you've received from one guy yeah is 3,000 well is said a couple thousand so around so what okay if you had to add up like he sent you 3,000 here 1,000 here 5,000
04:20:14
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)here what's the most that a guy has sent you in in total gifts too like just cash just money or like on like okay yeah
04:20:26
Brian Atlassure I don't know it's a difficult one to estimate honestly more than 10,000 probably not more than 10,000 no in total I mean I have got flowing out places but I don't think that would have cost that much no no I'm saying okay if
04:20:36
Brian Atlasa if one single guy let's say on seven seven separate occasions he sent 2,000 here 2,000 here 3,000 here 1,000 here if you added all those up sure I'm sure I've had fans that yeah they've spent a
04:20:48
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)couple thousand like just nothing over 10K though not that I think of now what about you you think you've gotten over 10K um just money yeah just money no but I think with gifts too yeah I've gotten
04:21:00
Brian Atlasbags I've gotten flown Molly what about you I've definitely received well over 10K from from one guy uh multiple people multiple people over 10 okay what about
04:21:08
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)any any guys over 100k total anyone into you for over a100 th000 I don't know maybe this Wolf Gang Puck guy
04:21:17
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)maybe eventually he will be there um he's actually I think he spent like maybe like I think he's spent like I can check on my only fans but he
04:21:29
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)spent like over 30 on only fans 30 30 over like I think it might be like I don't know I would have to check but yeah he's he's literally like my favorite I love him so much that oh that's him in the chat yes no that's him
04:21:41
Brian Atlashe's the best hey oh okay are you relieved to know it's not part of your community I guess I mean um and did you say you you had a sugar daddy right
04:21:53
Brian AtlasSophia in the past or never no never but I mean you have do you have Okay so let's yeah sure let's talk about only fans so I'm sure you have whales do you have any whales on your only fans oh yes
04:22:03
Brian AtlasI do you got a couple whales a couple couple whales what's the most a whale has spent on your o That's so hard to a closer to the mic if you can that's
04:22:14
Brian Atlasreally hard to put together I don't know how to estimate that you could say over 10K over 50k over 100 anyone over 100k no maybe over 10K though anything over
04:22:25
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)50k over 20k probably over 20k okay what about you um from your o any whales over
04:22:34
Aaron10K over 10K I don't know I don't know do those whales make up the bulk of your earnings or is it like smaller donations and those just kind of like actually pay
04:22:45
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)for like a small one yeah for me it's mainly like the subscribers make a big chunk just like the monthly subscriptions and then it's Wills like him who I literally spend like all day chatting with and like just you don't have wait you don't have to do nude
04:22:58
Brian Atlascontent on the like you could do like cooking right yeah you can do whatever you want you do do you think do you think Madison if she did like wholesome cooking content was like totally not sexual would like would she make do you think Madison would make
04:23:11
AaronBank yes I want to see that i' subcribe do you know what they adver they put in their aders for what you can use your only fans for it was videos of people like kaying and like surfing and stuff
04:23:22
Aaronlike that and they were like have people support like your Ambitions there was no mention of like any adult cont that right no yeah Didn't I want to work one for cosplay but then I get nervous that
04:23:34
Brian Atlasthere's going to be too many people like being weird and like you know fans yeah pixie can I have you turn tilt down your mic a little bit well I mean yeah they'll they will is your concern the
04:23:44
Pixie (mixed)perception um not just the perception but like the entitlement I guess like I don't want to be if I do only fans for cosplay I want it to be my cosplay you know I don't want to have like a million
04:23:56
AaronDMS being like why aren't you showing me your nudes you know I think it would actually they would be like really nice and they would be really like tip heavy and be like you could see more of this if you take off more you know and then
04:24:08
Dina / Savannah (mixed)sooner later you're doing gang bangs happens it happens yeah seriousness you could do lud content fire yeah you really can like there's a lot of the you can do basically safeer work
04:24:20
Brian Atlascontent and make a lot you should talk to you've talked to far H yeah talk to far yeah wait what far far has like she doesn't do she doesn't have any like nude content or whatever but I don't
04:24:33
Aaronthink Madison wouldn't even want to do like any like that I think she Madison's not i' rather just like even just to say oh I have an only fans most people are going to assume yeah adult content all right we got modest Hama I think he's
04:24:47
Brian Atlasdid I did I Hama he sorry brixon I'll stop no you don't have to stop my my my dear friend um just in bro you can still roast I think you should still roast I
04:25:00
Brian Atlasjust think we should avoid and I don't know if you're even that guilty of it I I this isn't directed what I was saying before isn't necessarily directed at one person there are a couple like uh people
04:25:11
Brian Atlasthat will again and I I'm I'm super appreciative of all people that are patrons of the show but in furtherance of protecting the show I I am sort of making an overture because
04:25:24
Brian Atlasso many other uh people have been demonetized I do think it would be the right move to try to be super
04:25:35
Brian Atlascareful because people are getting can demonetized and stuff that I should take actions to mitigate that risk so um but he says I guess I guess you'll see me
04:25:46
Brian Atlasagain when you inev inevitably get forced to rumble or maybe you'll smarten up and go before you get forced best of luck to the show in 2024 did I just alienate monest Tama yeah just tell you
04:25:57
Brian Atlaswhat mon Tama I'll allow maybe just like he can be the exception look I look the TTS comes in instantly so I'm this is more I'm this
04:26:07
Aaronis a request like if you guys are still going to like you know right now we're not really we're not we've never really moderated the TTS you know honestly the on sent to Charlie were more spicy than
04:26:19
Brian Atlaswhat he sented yeah I feel you guys planted yeah I feel like some of you were like yeah like we're going to you guys planted some of those I thought that ex-wife one was so funny I
04:26:32
Brian Atlasforgot what that one was but okay okay okay uh we got pre-show notes Here we have uh actually I'm going to come back to Tina we have some tweets we got to respond to I thought I was going to get out of this one we got some tweets so
04:26:45
Brian Atlaswe'll start from the beginning and then we'll just go through all the tweets I got a lot of tweets I got some got some stuff I got got okay go ahead Nick I'm so nervous I'm so scared just
04:26:55
Madisonstart with Pixies or whatever start with what I feel like people think my Twitter is a lot more it's not my Twitter or is it yeah that's that's Nick yeah if I see
04:27:06
Brian Atlasone more man call an obviously beautiful woman mid or ugly I will personally orchestrate attack to get rid of this God forsaken
04:27:14
Brian Atlaswebsite uh but hold on pixie hold on next oh that's making fun of those S this this girl calls this guy mid scroll
04:27:24
Brian Atlasdown Nick so we can see the walk myin up up no he's not new he he got six-pack he's got sixpack scroll up Scroll up that's not six pack pixor pixie reads every lady deserves a midman
04:27:36
Pixie (mixed)to go to the beach with her and spend time with her you're calling this guy mid pixie I'm making fun of other tweets there was a tweet of a girl cooking and people were like everybody deserves a
04:27:47
Pixie (mixed)beautiful mid um to cook for them and that girl was dropped at gorgeous so I was like okay Bet and then that's what I tweeted I'm yelling are you going to
04:27:56
Brian Atlasbring up the Poke tweet the Pokey tweet poke TW was spicier oh I saw I saw it but I didn't get it but she was basically it was two photos of Pokey man someone was like Pokey fell off and it
04:28:09
Aaronwas a photo of her from like a few years earlier to now and I I thought Pokey looked the same but they were yeah I thought she looked I mean her hair color was different but she looked basically the same and and then yeah you said it it was like PE word that confused me but
04:28:21
Brian AtlasI that I didn't want to really bring that up but I I did see that tweet and that I don't know where you're going with that she said no I will not explained so yeah you said no you won't explain so let's have her not explained next nobody's telling men their feelings
04:28:34
Brian Atlasand experiences are all privileged and toxic this is a red pill straw man people make to Discount feminism well hold on Nick can you search Wikipedia for toxic
04:28:46
Brian Atlasmasculinity and male privilege because these are terms that are essentially coined by feminists and male privilege is like a pretty solid tenant of like feminism so there's a couple of things
04:28:57
Pixie (mixed)to disect here so toxic masculinity no one's saying that oh every guy is toxic or masculinity is inherently toxic the concept of toxic masculinity is that it
04:29:08
Brian Atlascan be toxic so for example can femininity be toxic yeah I can but so why don't we just say because because some people men might get confused and
04:29:20
Brian Atlastake it to mean that masculinity is toxic wouldn't it be much more productive to just remove the masculinity from it and just say there are toxic individuals the problem is
04:29:31
Pixie (mixed)that it's certain tenants of masculinity that when taken to the extreme become toxic so you could say toxic individuality but the problem is that men are doing these things in the name of manly hood that end up being toxic
04:29:44
Brian Atlaswomen do that but do you agree that toxic femininity do you agree that there's a large amount of men who might view the word toxic
04:29:54
Pixie (mixed)masculinity as if it means that all masculinity is toxic or that masculinity is toxic I agree that is definitely an Optics and perception Challenge and the word we should probably find better
04:30:07
Pixie (mixed)words to describe this so why not just toxic individuals because again it comes from taking the tenants of masculinity to an extreme so for example there are some men who are like oh you know men
04:30:19
Pixie (mixed)should not cry like at all like if you cry you're weak like you're a like you can't you can't do that um if you do that you're less of a man or or guys that don't like a finger in their book
04:30:29
Brian Atlasthat's toxic no I don't what disavow disavow I don't think that that's toxic masculinity that's my definition anyway you're so you're just to be clear your
04:30:41
Brian Atlasdefinition of toxic masculinity is they don't want to get pegged is that yes okay good I'm glad open to stuff that's definitely toxic if a guy is not open to butt stuff that's toxic masculine okay
04:30:52
Brian Atlasyes sir all right um disagree with that one but uh well I mean I I think there is something to be said for
04:31:02
Brian Atlasstoicism and I don't think men should I I think it's uh here let me put it from the like a context of dating I would would argue that if you were early
04:31:13
Brian Atlason fairly early on into a courtship process with a woman and you and you cried I would say that a lot of women would not be very attracted to
04:31:25
Pixie (mixed)that yeah I think um it's oh sorry go ahead yeah I think um I think there's something to be said about like not being too extreme in general but I think if a woman is like turned off because
04:31:37
Dina / Savannah (mixed)the guy cried in front of them I think that's horrible on the woman I think AED FL I love when men cry I think it's so attractive me too I because it's like
04:31:48
Dina / Savannah (mixed)you have feelings you're human vable men I wouldn't say I love it but it's a normal emotion what's that like like you're human what's wrong with cry to cap it's total cap why is that cap
04:31:59
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)here's why it's not cap okay SpongeBob we all saw SpongeBob okay Pearl's 16th birthday who did she have a crush on the boy band boys who cry okay women like
04:32:12
Pixie (mixed)boys who cry why do you think that's crap I mean you see it in what is it dramas too or like media that's like for women like when the guy is being
04:32:20
Dina / Savannah (mixed)vulnerable with you and like crying like yeah so attractive I love when a man is angry that's no I'm like SLA in the face I'm
04:32:32
Pixie (mixed)like beat me up okay I think in general people aren't attracted to extremes generally speaking so you know a woman might like it when a guy cries but but if he's having like a total like temper
04:32:43
Aarontantrum like throwing things around or that's fine but I think there is like a level where it is like attractive I feel like if women get the ick over a guy crying it's not necessarily because he's crying it's because maybe he's
04:32:56
Brian Atlascrying over something stupid and if it's the if the reason is stupid then that gives you the women cry stupid things though agree I cry about really stupid things doesn't that almost counter the point like you're saying he's crying
04:33:07
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)over something stupid I mean what what if it's not stupid to him yeah I think that's a flag woman build an emotional connection in a relationship and I personally I think if a man is too scared to cry in front of a woman that
04:33:20
Aaronhe's pursuing then he's not emotionally intelligent enough to be in a relationship or open not emotionally open I would see it as like a man being emotionally stunted if he didn't cry in
04:33:30
Brian Atlasthe face of like a death close to him like I think that's valid but like I'm thinking of some other scenario where a guy would cry I I mean I mean
04:33:39
Madisonwhat is not break up or something like I'm trying to think I'm trying to think of a scenario where
04:33:49
Brian Atlaslike oh no there's nothing coming to me but like here's here's another example with this vulnerability thing let's say you witnessed your boyfriend uh get beat
04:34:00
Brian Atlasup it was a one-on-one it wasn't like he got jumped but like somehow he got involved in the fight and it was it was mutual combat so it wasn't like he got
04:34:09
Brian Atlassucker punched but like somehow he gets engaged in the fight um and he got up and you witness
04:34:22
Pixie (mixed)it you're going to be a little turned I think you're going to lose attraction is I want to take care of my wounded soldier sorry for sing chadon but like
04:34:32
Brian Atlasyeah like oh my God person I love her Sophia yes you're you see your guy get absolutely scorched in a fight and you see him in the fencing position I don't want to make fun of
04:34:44
Brian Atlasthis because people actually get brain damage from from the violence alter but do you guys know what the fencing position is it's you ever seen someone get in a fight they get knocked
04:34:54
Brian Atlasout they're Bas that's like significant uh brain damage they probably have a TBI I'm pretty sure if you saw your boyfriend get knocked out and he's in
04:35:03
Brian Atlasthe fencing position you're going to lose attraction for him I disagree no my mom come out I think you'll be concerned for him I think a woman would be turned off if he lost the fight that he started
04:35:16
Brian Atlasyeah if he lost the fight that he started then fine if didn't start the fight and it was basically not a sucker punch but like okay okay question let's say uh you're out of the bar club and
04:35:28
Brian Atlassome other drunk dude steps to you and I don't know the guy I'm trying to think he says something nasty to you or something the guy started a fight would you want your boyfriend to intervene on your behalf no cuz I feel like they're escalating it
04:35:41
Aaronand that makes him more unsafe what if he what okay that's example toxic toxic masculinity right there is if a guy insisted on escalating that barfight right there instead of walking away because you're making it harder and less
04:35:54
Brian Atlassafe for us to get out of the situation all in the name of preserving your like a male I'm not I'm not advocating I'm not advocating that the the response to another man insulting your girlfriend is
04:36:06
Brian Atlasnecessarily to start a fight but that was perhaps the lowest level thing I could think of there's other scenarios where it could be warranted for the man to uh perhaps initiate a fight or he
04:36:16
Brian Atlasmight feel so compelled due to the disrespect uh that perhaps the man touched you in some way inappropriately sure yeah but to decide it's not really up to my boyfriend if I
04:36:28
Brian Atlasfeel disrespected or not I feel like it's valid it's like a protective Instinct but the guy might have a protective Instinct I mean he gets scorched up in the fight or something like if you were with like a girlfriend
04:36:41
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)Club like a guy like touch your girlfriend wouldn't you yeah it's just a protective yes I know what you're talking
04:36:52
Brian Atlasabout yeah uh the thing is though I feel like I try to be like intellectually honest about these things I saw this clip and I I didn't see the full video and I feel like they there could have
04:37:04
Brian Atlasbeen other criteria for how they rated these men how long's the video it's a minute long than this version are we we actually
04:37:14
Brian AtlasI'm wait are we Nick can you pull up the were we getting Reverb on this video tab can you pull up the chat were we getting Reverb on that yo chat one in the chat
04:37:24
Brian Atlasif we were getting reverb when we pulled up that little video there um let me
04:37:31
Brian Atlasknow were we getting Reverb no nope looks good okay uh I don't know if we watch the video do we watch the video basically some guy started crying on one
04:37:43
Brian Atlasof these Jubilee things and then they I think it it we'll watch it it would have already been done by damn it okay uh go ahead should we have something deeper like should we go deep when's the
04:37:54
Brian Atlaslast time you cried yeah he's try cry now my pause it pause it pause it can you make it a little bigger like control zoom in do we have to rate them before and after we
04:38:06
Brian Atlasjust yeah try it nope okay okay sorry actually that would be a go back 5 Seconds sorry back 5 Seconds we'll just watch it like this he trying to cry now no I left my best friend this year so it's still been
04:38:17
Dina / Savannah (mixed)hard thing for me I'm so sorry you made me think about it I'm so sorry oh my God can we give makes me like him more that makes want to give
04:38:29
Dina / Savannah (mixed)him Aug he's so cute in my opinion like that literally makes me want to give him a hug wait hold on just quiet
04:38:37
SPEAKER_01quiet give a Dr my my brother for me and then just like mildly uncomfortable which is nothing
04:38:49
SPEAKER_03[Music] against and then the bottom it's not like I dislike anyone I just very disinterested in a lot of people so I think it's just like just like you guys
04:39:01
SPEAKER_03are cool yeah but is that raing them just off of the fact that he just cry did they all cry or wait keep going ni keep going thank you that's
04:39:12
Brian Atlaslike yeah pause it here damn so the physical appearance ranking they put him initially at most and then the final
04:39:23
Brian Atlasranking five and I mean it's hard to it's so small um I actually think facially speaking in terms of his appearance I think he's the most physically attractive person I don't
04:39:34
Brian Atlasthink that was the initial ranking but again this is a edited clip so and I didn't watch the full thing but that one wom woman did sh say she was uncomfortable MH despite him being
04:39:46
Brian Atlasvulnerable in that situation so it appears to me that it's actually I don't think it's even necessarily evidence of something that men are pushing on other
04:39:55
Brian Atlasmen the patriarchy I actually think uh women tend to um what's the term for it uphold this is something that
04:40:05
Brian Atlaswomen uphold when men are V vulnerable that has negative ramifications how do you break that cycle I don't know maybe it's something innate in in women fale nature it could maybe
04:40:18
Pixie (mixed)it's female nature disagree I mean you're you're not attracted to male weakness or display aren't weak or to displays of male weakness I am I disagree I don't think emotions are weakness I think there's actually this
04:40:30
Pixie (mixed)is sound perhaps on an intellectual level but no but also like there's it takes a certain strength to be willing to be vulnerable in a way right to not be so uphold by like these constrictions that Society put on us and be like no
04:40:42
Dina / Savannah (mixed)like I am human I have feelings I am real so I think there is a strength there yeah I like guys that are open with their emotions like just shows that they're a human being at the end of the day I feel like you're actually I feel
04:40:55
Sophialike you're actually stronger if you're able to show your emotions and not have to worry about other people's opinion oh if I cry right now are people going to look at me differently or women going to find me less attractive I feel like the
04:41:06
Sophiamen that are able to just cry when they feel like have to or they feel like they need to are very strong because they're not worried about other people's opinions here let me ask you guys a question um and this is
04:41:18
Brian Atlasrelated I guess to vulnerability um do you guys all like a a confident men is confident one of I I often hear
04:41:31
Brian Atlasconfidence being cited as one of the top or close to the top things that women find attractive in the man okay so let me ask if a would you prefer a guy
04:41:43
Brian Atlasapproaching you and he wasn't being creepy or anything but he was perhaps he stepped a bit nervous his eye contact wasn't great maybe his voice was a little shaky again he was being polite
04:41:54
Brian Atlasnot creepy but he stepped to you he Ste to you his eye contact wasn't good his voice was shaky he wasn't didn't come across super sure of himself again not
04:42:05
Brian Atlasweird or anything just how I described it would you prefer that or a guy who just steps to you really confidently which do you prefer the guy who approaches you confidently or the guy who's a bit nervous oh
04:42:19
Sophiahonestly well well actually I want to start here go ahead I feel like that's going to be personal preference like some girls like shy guys I like I like shy nerdy guys that's what I I I like little like confid okay what about you
04:42:32
Aaronbut I like confident men too like I don't know how to I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off but no you're fine go yeah it's I don't know how to explain that but I personally actually like the the guy who would be maybe more nervous
04:42:44
Aaronand the reason being is because that confidence territory can get into arrogance very very quickly and that cockiness is especially unattractive to me okay I should have specified in the same way that I specified that the guy who's
04:42:56
Aaronnervous he's not being creepy but he's just a bit nervous or whatever The Confident guy is not being arrogant either he's confident in a way that you like a guy to be confident well then yeah you're building in the answer then
04:43:08
Aaronobviously everybody wants the confident person who's not too arrogant but I'm not going to be turned off by the person who might be a little bit shy or apprehensive about approaching me because that demonstrates to me that they're not entitled or they're not
04:43:21
Aarongoing to assume that just cuz I asked obviously she's going to say yes because I would if I even felt that for a second that would be very unattractive to me okay what about you she just said it perfectly honest oh my God you guys okay
04:43:32
Pixie (mixed)all right what about you I like both a lot cuz I I like like if they're nerdy and like they're like um or even not nerdy if they're just like shy a little bit it's like oh you're getting clustered because of me like I
04:43:43
Dina / Savannah (mixed)definitely don't want like to like I do agree with her but it's also just like I I do like men that are like I mean yeah I wouldn't be opposed to like the person that was shy but what was my point I
04:43:56
Aaronfeel like the the thing that wins women over when a guy is being confident is not necessarily the confidence in and of itself like if you already have natural chemistry there and then he asks you out that's something that you wanted and it's basically guaranteed that he was going to say yes like if you if you
04:44:09
Aaronalready found yourself attracted to a guy and he was shy when he approached you I don't think that woman is all of a sudden being like well I was really attracted to him but then the way he asked me turn me off because this this almost counters
04:44:20
Brian Atlasour conversation earlier of well his looks whatever that's one thing but he can talk his way into you can also talk your way out though yes you can but like one of the
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Brian Atlasways that a guy can appear despite his physical appearance I would argue like if a guy's really confident that could be a a way to appear appear more attractive to woman talking about something you're passionate about even
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Pixie (mixed)if you're like yeah no honestly like yes I think what matters to me most is authenticity so if you're like you know naturally confident that's just who you are that will appeal to me and if you're
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)naturally here let's move on what about you um yeah you prefer confidence or you prefer I prefer confidence honestly um I think it's very attractive when guys are like confident and they like
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)okay no go ahead no it's okay that was it or something um I feel like I make sure both I I think naturally though I would prefer a confident guy but then it's also like oh do you do this to every girl like if they're so confident
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)easy to walk up to me with all like they full chest you know like they're probably doing that to every other girl as well so for me personally I think uh when a man is insecure nervous shy okay
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)but when a man is insecure especially me because of what I do for work that can get pretty dangerous honestly so I need a confident Man I Need a Man who um that was pretty much my point yeah no I need
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)a man who knows that he's not going to be intimidated by me and my lifestyle definitely yeah I think they say one thing to the mean another I don't know um okay I'll
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Brian Atlastake I'll do one more thing on this and I'll move on but would you prefer a guy to just go for the first kiss assuming you want him to kiss you right
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Brian Atlaswould you prefer the guy to just go for the first kiss or versus if he were to verbalize it and he were to say something like can I kiss
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Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you oh I hate that I love that I think it's cringy cringy what about you what do you prefer I like it but depends on if I want them or
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)not uh it's honestly both for me because like I like when someone asks me just like if it's unclear but if we like obviously like have a connection or say it's like my boyfriend I want it like
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Sophiaforcibly I same thing I agree with her completely so you prefer what I prefer him making the move unless but what if he's a bit shy and
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Brian Atlasnervous and he wants to ask for permission that's fine I feel like my my AC that's fine you would be you would prefer my actions would kind of show if he was confident and not in a vulnerable
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)state no I mean you had a very visceral reaction to that you said oh not at all I would very much dislike that I mean it can be quite sweet asking for you know you never want to just go and kiss
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Dina / Savannah (mixed)someone without knowing the Vibes but if you clearly know that like you're like you're getting a a connection going and you're like oh a kiss is going to happen if he asks then to kiss it just throws off the mood like there way to know the
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Aaronvi pick up the vibe and just go for it like or make it awkward yeah and then I'm just like oh like have you ever met a woman that you learned was turned off because a guy asked a question like that cuz I haven't we've I mean we've we've