Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Charlie Kirk vs. Feminists & E-Girls! | Dating Talk #130
Date: 2024-01-29
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Charlie Kirk(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Aaron(guest)
SPEAKER_11Pixie (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_13Dina / Savannah (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Molly Little / Angel (mixed)(guest)
Key Moments
00:08:40
OtherCharlie Kirk reveals he waited until marriage for sex
“Charlie Kirk says waiting until marriage was 'the greatest decision of my life'”
00:12:42
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about her father relationship
“Charlie Kirk asks Molly if she has a good relationship with her father; Molly says she doesn't talk to him. Kirk: 'I'm not surprised.'”
00:31:45
OtherCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about porn addiction and compares it to drug dealing
“Kirk asks if porn is a drug, compares porn performers to drug dealers; panel pushes back strongly.”
00:52:10
OtherMolly Little says she would not quit porn for $1 million/year
“Charlie Kirk offers hypothetical $1M/year if she quit porn; Molly says no, she would still do it because she is an exhibitionist.”
00:57:28
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks panel 'What is a woman?'
“Kirk presses Pixie and Aaron for biological definition of woman; panelists give social constructivist answers. Kirk: 'There are zero genders, two sexes, and infinite personalities.'”
02:37:33
OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show
“Brian thanks Charlie Kirk; Kirk plugs TPUSA.com and The Charlie Kirk Show podcast. Kirk thanks show for being 'the most respectful' he's seen.”
03:18:30
OtherMolly Little's body count revealed from viral Twitter clip
“Brian reveals Molly's viral Twitter clip claiming body count over 100; Molly clarifies mostly from shoots, fewer than 10 off-camera civilians.”
03:20:15
OtherDina Snows reveals she hooked up with a trans woman (not knowing at first)
“Dina describes OF shoot with a trans woman where she did not know beforehand the person had male genitalia; briefly performed oral.”
05:55:10
OtherSelf-rating round begins
“Brian prompts Stiffler chat donation request: everyone rates their looks 1-10. Results: Sophia=9, Molly=10, Aaron<10, Dina=8, Brian=5.”
06:20:00
OtherDina Snows recounts hotel gangbang story
“Dina describes leaving a boring guy in hotel lobby to hook up with a sports coach and his manager — a foursome in sequence.”
06:21:00
OtherDina Snows discusses labiaplasty
“Dina shares she got a labiaplasty for cosmetic and physical discomfort reasons; asymmetry caused discomfort and she felt self-conscious while filming OF content.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:06
Introductions & Relationship Status
Guests introduce themselves; Brian asks about relationship status and longest relationships. Charlie Kirk introduces himself and shares marriage/family perspective.
00:06:40
Hookup Culture & Purpose of Dating
Charlie Kirk advocates dating with intent to marry; sex as sacred. Guests debate hookup culture, open relationships, and casual sex. Molly Little discusses porn and open relationship dynamic.
00:13:20
What Is Love — Definitions
Panel goes around table defining love. Greek words for love (philia, storge, eros, agape) introduced by Charlie Kirk. Discussion of fear of commitment.
00:32:40
Porn Addiction & Social Effects
Charlie Kirk argues porn is a social toxin with drug-like addiction; references 'Your Brain on Porn' by Gary Wilson. Panel debates regulation, age verification, and comparison to drug prohibition.
00:38:36
Political Orientation & Dating Across Party Lines
Guests reveal political orientations; debate whether they can date someone with opposing politics. Pixie's 20-minute date story. Gender divergence in political affiliation discussed. Charlie Kirk on value alignment in marriage.
00:54:24
Feminism — Definition & Debate
Aaron and Pixie identify as feminist; Charlie Kirk asks them to define it. Debate over equal pay, gender wage gap, and economic equality.
00:57:28
What Is a Woman — Gender Identity Debate
Charlie Kirk asks panelists to define 'woman' without circular definition. Debate on biological sex vs social gender construction. Trans rights, puberty blockers, trans kids, detransitioners, and gender dysphoria discussed at length.
01:52:00
Abortion Debate
Panel debates abortion rights. Charlie Kirk gives his pro-life position. Statistics on abortion rates. Aaron and others argue pro-choice positions.
02:37:33
Charlie Kirk Departs; Madison Joins
Charlie Kirk thanks the show, plugs TPUSA; leaves around 157min. Madison (Whatever Podcast staff) joins the panel. Andrew Wilson attempted call-in but mic cord snapped; never joined.
02:39:13
Dina Snows — AVN, Labiaplasty, Relationship Views
Dina discusses AVN convention experience, labiaplasty (medical + cosmetic reasons), sleeping through friend groups, hotel gangbang story, open relationship preferences, and difficulty with commitment.
03:16:40
Body Count Discussion
Molly Little's 100+ body count (mostly on-camera) discussed after viral Twitter clip. Panel debates whether body count matters for dating.
03:36:00
Orgasm Gap & Sexual Experience
Discussion on percentage of men able to make female partners orgasm. Orgasm gap, multiple orgasms, squirting, gooning/edging discussed.
05:55:19
Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)
Stiffler chat donation prompts self-rating round. Sophia: 9. Molly: 10. Aaron: less than 10. Dina: 8. Brian: 5. Panel debates delusion of self-rating 10.
06:03:50
Financial Dynamics in Dating — Provider Role
Sophia's story of supporting unemployed boyfriend. Debate on whether women should expect financial provision even when they earn more. Brian discusses provider role; plays TikTok "70k boyfriend" clip.
Transcript
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02:53:21
Brian Atlaspixie looks like pink sparkles show pink sparkles yes pretty are kind of Nick click click the the one where it CH m is
02:53:31
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)the double no no that one that yeah click click it yeah m is the dou like the I don't see shape in the hair not all I honestly think like you look more
02:53:43
Brian Atlaslike her than pixie does I think her I think your eyes look like her but your little different maybe a breast augmentation or two I'm not in favor I'm
02:53:54
Aaronnot in favor of I don't like plastic surgery no I don't think I'm not in favor is that why you were checking her photos for plastic surgery and then you just happen to notice the cross no when we were looking through her photos and the how you how do you come to that
02:54:07
Brian Atlasconclusion because I wondered if you did the research on her photos and found the cross I I look at everybody's photos for the thumbnail I got to make you know and you looking at the cross you swear yeah
02:54:17
Brian Atlaslooking at the cross somebody did their research the cross not the captions not anything else I did some research I did some research on we got people's twitters we got some twit more Twitter stuff from pixie Twitter stuff from all
02:54:29
Brian Atlasy'all do you ever sub to only fans to get like really deep Dives no my Twitter actually one time because I there was one time yeah I think did this mic get or the this camera looks like it got
02:54:41
Brian Atlasscooted I don't know um there's yeah one time we needed some Intel so actually we have some Intel tonight on some of that so uh hold on let me check a couple things here by the way bendra the offender I was gone from the I don't if
02:54:54
Brian Atlasyou're still watching I was gone when your TTS came in thank you bjer the offender um wait what were we doing Zach setting up setting you up with Zach if you guys I getting embarrassed I think
02:55:05
Brian Atlasyeah but I'd go on a date and see where it goes okay I'm going to make it happen he lives in would would you be down to go see him in Texas though because he's in Texas and he's kind of a homebody um what is it
02:55:18
Pixie (mixed)I guess it depends if he lives close to friends of mine or not so that way like I could stay with my friends or whatever because I'm not going to he has ax he can protect you I'm not going to stay at the house of somebody haven't gotten a
02:55:31
Brian Atlasdate well whatever Finance or flight how badly do you want to make it happen I don't think so I don't think so all right uh let me guys we're going to check let me just check in with Andrew
02:55:40
Brian AtlasWilson here if we're going to get him in here um let's see one sec sorry guys do guests really not recognize that that's asman what I recognize it you do but like I've
02:55:53
Brian Atlasseen you ask a question I'm surprised that like how many panelists don't know who he is cuz I feel like he's so big well I feel like it's one of those internet things where someone can have like a massive following and like most Norm like most people just have no idea
02:56:05
Aaronwho that is true granted he is like one of the most popular twitch streamers so and you asked the wrong person because she's a twitch streamer so she definitely knows who that is I knew his name I didn't real like he's like a
02:56:15
Pixie (mixed)gigachad World of Warcraft player you know yeah I've definitely heard his name I didn't I don't really had like a face to it
02:56:23
Brian Atlasyeah um okay so Andrew Wilson says his mic cord snapped oh he's just scared of us Andrew Andrew Wilson are you able to get a I don't know if you're watching
02:56:34
Aaronhold on I'll just say it's a long show maybe you could run out to Best Buy come back I'm just on his phone like screaming into it sorry guys we're going to get back to the show I know you guys
02:56:47
Brian Atlasare probably like what the hell is going going on here but uh I'm going to I'll check back in with Andrew see if he's got a solution otherwise we'll just continue on the show uh as is so um
02:56:57
Brian Atlasthose of you who are single what does that really look like to you cuz you know I mean there currently a guy in the picture starting with you Sophia um you
02:57:10
Sophiagot you know you're like you're an attractive girl right I'm sure there's dudes in the picture kind of to be honest I'm I'm a home body like what I like doing is playing video games
02:57:21
Sophiaand watching anime and you know traveling so being single for me is just basically learning more about myself that I didn't even know like I'm finding
02:57:32
Sophiathings out that I didn't even know if I if I was in a relationship I would never find out you know I feel like spending time alone uh is just the best thing in
02:57:43
Sophiathe world so I love being single it's fun so so there's no nothing you're celibate are you celibate oh I'm celibate no I'm not I'm not I'm not
02:57:53
Sophiauntil I I mean it's just C okay all right what she's definitely not invol come on a there's no way she's
02:58:02
Sophiainvoluntarily so I just I it's I'm very picky so I'm very picky yes very very Pi if you will she's a she's a voluntary how long have you been Sate for stop the
02:58:14
Sophiacat uh ever since I broke up with my ex like 4 months ago I've only been celebrate for 4 months but that's good though yeah I've Cate for 3 months recently it was so nice it's actually so nice like just kind of
02:58:27
Sophialike refocusing on like yourself and what you want and just not having and then when you when you take away the power of sex like it gets quieter but it's it's nice it's free and it's so nice when you find somebody or if you do
02:58:39
Sophiadecide to have sex again it feels great you know what makes you want to break your celibacy well I had to to do a collab so oh for work for work basically okay
02:58:49
Pixie (mixed)word word okay uh Pixie you're single yes how's it looking out there in Miami bad um I mean I've gone on a bunch of
02:59:00
Pixie (mixed)dates and some of them are good and then some of but then I'm also traveling a lot so I can't like consistently you know cuz then it's like bye and then you lose contact it's sadad didn't didn't you recently move to Miami where were
02:59:12
Pixie (mixed)you before um I was like not recently but you did move to Miami yeah I was in bokeh I was like an hour of oh so you have you always been in Florida pretty much um well born and raised in Puerto Rico till 17 then moved to New York for
02:59:25
Pixie (mixed)2 years then moved to Florida did you date in PR at all or no I didn't have my first kiss until 17 okay and that was when you came here um yeah okay got it
02:59:35
Brian Atlaswell have you considered like Portland Oregon or like Berkeley California I I'm just looking out for you pixie you got to go where
02:59:47
Brian Atlaswhere the liberal dudes are and I feel like Miami Florida's kind of pretty conservative right it's the weirdest thing because they're like conservative but they're not even like Chad conservative they're
02:59:59
Pixie (mixed)like oh like all the men want sugar babies and then they're like boy conservative and then they're like you know trying to like bribe me with like money and like watches or stuff like
03:00:11
Aaronthat and I'm just like no like I don't want them I'm sorry no I want to find someone I actually connect with she won't even go on like King here because she was like no you want exp
03:00:21
Pixie (mixed)wor I was like I don't Mak this is comifornia we're talking about I was like it makes no sense for me to go on the dating apps right now because I'm going to leave in a week and yeah you're just here temporarily you want something longterm I imagine yeah so it's like
03:00:34
Brian Atlaswhat's the point you know yeah exactly I mean unless like typically if you're traveling really what's on the table like a casual encounter yeah and I don't want that if you don't want that yeah I
03:00:44
Brian Atlasmean unless you can somehow convince a guy to move out but I have you seen her she easily could do that I think I feel like that's a I mean for anybody it's
03:00:55
Brian Atlasgonna be a stretch to be like after a week after a week all right just move to I mean you got like a spare bedroom that's you want a man who can make up his mind like fast you know okay all right haven't you ever heard that like
03:01:08
Aaronoh women decide or like I don't know if it's women I feel like the saying is women like oh they decide if they want to have sex with a guy within the first like 30 yeah 5 minutes something like that do you think that there's any validity to that or no
03:01:18
Aaronprobably faster but uh yeah probably okay then if you can't talk your way into getting really you can you can can you there's a lot of
03:01:29
Aarongood talk way I I don't think that like can I mean how else do you think men get laid the r you got to R yeah exactly but
03:01:38
AaronI feel like if there's not that initial attraction that's not true that chemistry can spark
03:01:48
Brian Atlasinstantly you need like God tiar RZ if it was like a no and then it becomes a because well the thing is is that you can don't underestimate the influence well actually I don't recommend men
03:01:59
Dina / Savannah (mixed)involv alcohol in at any level of the courtship process well you can see an attractive men like for me like process were to like see a man that I think is attractive like I'd be like okay I would probably but like if he opens his mouth
03:02:12
Dina / Savannah (mixed)and he's horrible I'm like oh never mind but like if a guy is like not like fully my type and he like opens his mouth and he's great I'm like okay so you could definitely talk yourself into it I guess
03:02:23
Brian Atlasthat's fair I guess that's fair it's been known to happen I mean to your point it's like but I I think when within I think the thing you said was a woman knows within
03:02:35
Brian Atlasthe first five minutes of meeting a guy yeah and I think you can actually I mean that first impression it's not just looks it's also like the way they carry themselves the conversation that they're bringing in that first five minutes the
03:02:47
Brian Atlasway they themselves too so I mean I think uh if their convo is not on point in those first 5 minutes then can they redeem themselves perhap from there I
03:02:59
Aarondon't know it's hard to say but I think so because I feel like a lot of people meet through friend groups so maybe the first time you interacted with them wasn't so hot but the second time if they're like in your friend group you can come around to somebody easily even without them talking you into it or like
03:03:12
Brian AtlasRising you up it just happens yeah okay all right so okay yeah pixie my uh my my prescription for you is you need to move to a highly liberal Seattle I think
03:03:23
Dina / Savannah (mixed)would be good for you you do well in Seattle is Seattle wait are you aren't you from Seattle no I've just been there it like it's cloudy and rainy like yeah but the city's and everyone's really
03:03:34
Brian Atlasnice that sounds depressing if it's cloudy and rainy though you that'd be a downgrade from Miami geographically speaking the men there though they they'd probably love you um you're
03:03:45
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)single what's going on there you got dud in the picture yeah so no not yes well um so I was dating um like casually but
03:03:57
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)looking for something long term uh first when I got broken up with when I ended my relationship um but then after that I kind of gave up um so now I'm just
03:04:09
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)definitely like working on myself and I like being single um I again don't participate in Hook hookup culture just because I think it's damaging person personally for me um but yeah right now
03:04:21
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)I'm just working on myself because I think it if I were to get into a long-term relationship I think it would be very hard for me to maintain that okay what about you there's come on there's a couple guys in the picture
03:04:31
Dina / Savannah (mixed)right honestly no like maybe if I was supp po stop the C no for real for real majority of my intimacy is work okay isad Molly you're in a relationship okay yeah know I'm alone most of the time and
03:04:44
Brian Atlasthen well let me ask the the girls here who do only fans of question so um does it hurt your bottom line if your fans and this is actually more broadly
03:04:56
Brian Atlasspeaking even if you're not do only fans but you're a content creator does it hurt your bottom line if people know that you're as a woman streamer anyways that you're dating it depends a man and
03:05:07
Brian AtlasI think the answer is yes it depends yeah so would and isn't it the case that various uh female streamers and content creators and women on only fans do in fact have long-term
03:05:20
Dina / Savannah (mixed)romantic relationships but they actually hide that in furtherance of um well because it gives people that are subscribing to you the IDE that yeah the
03:05:31
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)idea that they're dating you I feel like some subscribers might even like it more yeah I'll pull it back up for me personally like um when I had like when
03:05:42
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)I was single um all my fans you know they never expected me to get a boyfriend and I thought that it was going to hurt my income but actually it increased it uh people really loved
03:05:54
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)seeing me be like authentic like authentically sexual with my real life partner and they kind of insert themselves in his role I think um and on
03:06:04
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)top of that like he's hot guys are bisexual they like him too uh hold on guys I need to check something thought about it that way that's really cuz I've definitely heard about guys like liking
03:06:16
Brian Atlasknowing they have a boyfriend in like triggering wait okay why could this now did I did I break something when I fixed the other thing I don't think so Nick is the volume can you check the volume down
03:06:28
Brian Atlasthere your setting for that said monitor only I don't know if that made a difference I don't think read it anymore uh that one yeah the monitor is so big that's so weird okay I got to fix this I'm sorry guys here Apollo sorry that
03:06:42
Brian Atlasthis didn't come in instantly we're having an audio issue let me just read it we have Apollo what is there okay Apollo shenoda hey thank you man really appreciate it great podcast tonight with Charlie Madison as usual is the only
03:06:53
Brian Atlasnine in the room caught like 30 episodes during your Eternal winter break so this donation is the least I can do for all that content dude Apollo thank you very much for your patronage really appreciate it man thank
03:07:04
Brian Atlasyou um glad that you uh wow you really did a uh went through our back catalog there thank you man appreciate it um Madison apparently is only nine in the room okay there you go not even a 10 to
03:07:16
Brian Atlasnot even to madon I'm okay with the N Madison I think you're I I apologize I need to interrupt the conversation a little bit to get up and try to figure out why the audio is kind of SC scuffed again I must have tweaked something when
03:07:28
Brian AtlasI was fixing the other thing um if you guys want to talk about me while I'm gone go ahead I had a question about what you were saying about being single
03:07:37
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)and I guess this could open up to everyone but is it always kind of or how do you differentiate I don't know how to like word this proper but like is it kind of
03:07:48
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)just being single until the right person comes along or how long do you like plan to actually be single um I think personally personally
03:08:00
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)I don't think I'm I'm like planning on a set date um I just think because of my past relationships and who I am right
03:08:08
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)now I think it's smarter for my mental health to be single and to be peaceful um but I also would make
03:08:18
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)um exceptions for someone who I would deem fit not fit but you know um and the right person to come along but I would still make precautions and boundaries
03:08:30
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)and you know stay and you know making sure my mental health is is good um so that I don't ruin our relationship that's good yeah I just saw the chat and they're still rating you I I feel like
03:08:42
Aaronthe one to 10 system is flage I we're talking about this and it should be a binary it should be zero or one you that's why I always rate myself a 10 are you hot or not yeah it's hot or not I think it should be hot or not I don't think that I think the 10 gets too like
03:08:54
Aaronautistic don't to lie like trying to pick a number in between there you're 7.35 you just had like your cathal tilt slightly different have you guys ever seen that subreddit the true rap me
03:09:05
Aaronsubreddit no where there true rap me is run by like the most insane Reddit mods who literally are policing every single comment so it's like if you underrate they'll take you off because it's like no you're supposed to appeal to our objetive guidelines and their objective
03:09:19
Aaronguidelines have like these photos to give you guidelines of like so yeah like what a 10 9876 all the way down to like one looks like and the 10 is like emada and then the the like one or whatever would be sayada is a 10 I'm not going to
03:09:31
Aaronlie Mada is a 10 I wouldn't according to that r/ true rate me I don't know if you've ever been on that she was a nine she was like a nine she wasn't a 10 actually wait true rap me they're like super brutal with ratings like pretty
03:09:41
Aaronmuch nobody can be over seven basically they're super hyper focused on like if you over rate even by like no you can't overrate you can't underrate right what' you say crazy no you laughed
03:09:54
Brian Atlasat said something oh no just like they they were super strict with the rating stuff so actually funny story on the rating thing oh I'll don't know if I have that pulled up somebody did a I
03:10:06
Brian Atlasdon't know if you guys saw that there was like a uh date psychology or something they raided the or they they
03:10:14
Brian Atlasasked like over a thousand people the the rankings of various red pill people I was on it oh no and so they rated physical
03:10:25
Aaronattractiveness and then voice and then familiarity with the person it let's pull that up yeah I to say let's see if you want to pull it up that means you're happy with
03:10:37
Aaronwhere you ended up uh date psychology.com just do like uh like red pill physical attractiveness I love how you have the address memorized and you play it off like uh
03:10:49
Aaronyou know just this uh website called dat.com it's in our Discord oh someone else found it for you guys no I I found it you found it name no somebody somebody tagged me on
03:11:00
AaronTwitter about it I think actually it really worth pulling up I'll pull up really quick see who ranked number one I'm assuming it has like R Stine playing with fire you yeah scroll scroll up Nick
03:11:13
Brian Atlasmake it bigger I like this how attractive are red pill influencers rating from a large sample scroll down am I a red pill influencer I don't know scroll down scroll down Nick get to
03:11:24
Brian Atlasthe charts let's see the charts blah blah blah blah I like the methodology it's very detailed methods yeah okay wait Nick make a small is this left oh this is wow you're number one you're
03:11:36
Brian Atlasnumber one wow yo right small put us switch us right small right small Andrew T is seven apparently but here's the thing here's
03:11:45
Brian Atlasthe thing this isn't like a w because it's on a score of a s point so like 3.4 out of seven that's like I'm mid so it's not like a big W but like I mean you
03:11:57
Brian Atlasbeat everyone else well myself true I did I I do rank myself to you like five sometimes six you know right now I'm a five I'm a five right now so this actually uh checks out you made the top
03:12:09
Pixie (mixed)five in all three C scroll up a little bit Nick so I can see the little bigger no like uh how and T is the least vocal attractive I know I feel bad poor Australian k a little bigger a little
03:12:19
Brian Atlasbigger there we go okay there we go average influencer ratings given by women okay and then let's uh is there another one by Anthony Dre Johnson
03:12:30
Brian Atlasscroll down Nick physical oh look at wait scroll up Scroll up okay okay good times dude go off okay oh wow they have one on just you oh well
03:12:43
Pixie (mixed)this is like the breakdown so there were females and males and bro I oh who responded four out of four male wait are the above scores influenced by Mal's
03:12:55
Brian Atlasrating as well or just female so the I'm trying to look the female is 3.4 and the male is wait I think the average rating for from males for me is a four out of
03:13:06
Aaronseven for females it's 3.4 it's weird they with people who rated you very unattractive and then but that kind of like makes sense cuz when you it's also 50/50 are very attractive
03:13:18
Brian Atlaseven there at the more people rated me very unattractive though than than there think that's I but I I think that's
03:13:27
Pixie (mixed)uh look I'm not saying I'm Brad Pit over here but to rate me a one I do think like come on you know you're like it's still better than everyone else come
03:13:38
Brian Atlascome on you know those are people that are just like uh you scroll down a bit or these are the other people so did they do you know if they asked well I'm sure it says did they only ask people who don't know who you are oh well
03:13:50
Aaronthat's the Nick pull it back up there's the familiar familiarity yeah oh yeah yeah yeah and you were second there I saw Andrew T was above you window scroll up to the window
03:14:01
Brian Atlaswait what yeah that one so 5.3 out of seven on familiarity for Tate and then I guess I'm a 3.5 out of familiarity so I guess these
03:14:12
Aaronare like how do you know this person and maybe half of the people knew who I was and but is there selection bias because it seems like I I assume these people
03:14:22
Brian Atlasknow right everyone at least it would have better if unfortunately I'm only I'm five on the vocal attractiveness so I got to work on my my uh Baseline I got
03:14:34
Aaronto work on that do you think most people watch you only listen to this podcast the most people who watch me who like watch the Pod do you think they're just listening like a regular podcast or do you think they're actually watching like in with a screen in front of them oh
03:14:46
Brian Atlasit's hard to say I I don't know um we we do have good viewership on Spotify and I think more more so on Spotify people are just listening versus watching but we do have the video available on Spotify so it's hard to say we have a chat here
03:14:58
Brian Atlasfrom Bender the offender ladies do you think that marriage-minded men are going to be desirable in 2024 this is assuming that the men in question are waiting till marriage to have sex oh that's what you means my marriage minded yo Bender
03:15:12
Brian Atlasthe fender thank you man for the chat appreciate it sorry I missed your previous one thank you man good to see you in the chat chat excuse me um ladies ladies Sophia we're dying to hear
03:15:22
Aaronwe need to hear from you I've been so marriage-minded men desirable in 2024 AKA men who are waiting until marriage is that that's what it is that what it means that's what it said yeah not just like marriage minded men General
03:15:35
Brian Atlasmarriage minded men oh you're right you're right you're right you're right yeah yeah okay waiting till marriage have sex are they asking well let's go go we could go around the table on this would you let's say you meet a dude
03:15:47
Brian Atlasyou like him you know he's a good you like him I feel like it'd be unfair for me to say he's like your soulmate like he's perfect but he's waiting for marriage um I mean perhaps you can answer that too but like you're
03:15:59
Sophiaattracted to the guy but he says I want to wait until marriage have sex yeah fine fine with me I if I it depends on how much I like him it depends on how much I want to be with him if I do
03:16:11
Aaronreally like him a lot then I I don't I wouldn't mind okay he makes less money than you though so you're the bread winner does that change anything I wouldn't mind okay Aaron no I don't think I probably wouldn't be
03:16:25
Aaroninterested in a man who wants to wait until marriage but I also to be fair I don't think they'd be interested in me cuz that sounds like someone who is extremely religious and very conservative and probably just we're
03:16:34
Brian Atlasprobably just not going to be compatible crazy guess are are really uh farle leaning are there is there no Co cohort of liberal or left leaning people that are also religious
03:16:47
Brian AtlasI for the most part no probably not that's more right leaning yeah I would say so okay what about you I would date someone who's waiting yeah you you'd wait okay yeah okay pixie I think I
03:16:57
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)would all right okay wholesome panel um I think I actually don't think so I don't think I would just because um yeah I also don't think like Aon was
03:17:10
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)saying they'd be interested in me again religion and stuff um but yeah I yeah I just I don't think I would be able to and I want to clarify there's no religious people on the left for the most part but there are spiritual people
03:17:23
Aaronso like Crystal girls people like horoscopes their spirituality but it's not religiosity different okay it's a big no for me and I also don't think they'd be interested in me sure Molly
03:17:35
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)definitely not I would be really bored and I think they'd be really jealous cuz I would not stop having sex with other people okay there you have it yeah it sounds like a cook to me honestly thank
03:17:45
Brian Atlasyou Bender the offender oh I 100% would wait okay good to know good to know um we have some pre-show notes here from everybody that we're
03:17:56
Brian Atlasgoing to get into so or was there something else that we were the tweets there's the tweets oh yeah we got some tweets from you from you guys I'm so
03:18:05
Brian Atlasscared okay so who do we start with here let's see um oh you know what uh I I should have brought this up while Charlie was still
03:18:15
Brian Atlashere um you you recently uh had a little viral video on Twitter I don't know if you saw it post on clown world no I saw it you saw it okay so um Molly and
03:18:26
Brian Atlasyou're still you're 20 right Molly yeah I'm 20 um you said that body count does not matter no okay uh and in the clip you say your body counts over 100 and
03:18:37
Brian Atlaspart of that I assume is because you've been involved in traditional porn almost all of it's because of it okay yeah do you know what the breakdown is like 80
03:18:47
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)from shoots and I mean like I could probably count on my hands how many civilians I've had sex with civilians so versus veterans like and like I think
03:18:58
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)like I've had I've had sex with less than 10 civilians and I've only ever hooked up with a guy once and never talk to him again like everyone else that I everyone that's not important that I've
03:19:09
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)had sex with like I've had long relationships with them and like most of the people that I've been in relationships also have over a 100
03:19:19
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)bodies so the dude the the guys yeah oh okay um so wait what is what is your total I don't
03:19:27
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)know you think I keep the what's it over what's it over it's over a 100 sure excuse me okay I just I really
03:19:38
Aaronwanted I really wanted okay all right Molly that's cool um yeah that's cool um if it was posted on clown world did they do like circus music I think they did
03:19:49
Brian Atlaslike a little I think they played some fun something like that yeah uh okay good times um you God actually there's something I did write down here but I
03:20:00
Brian Atlasdon't know maybe I'll talk about later um no do it now I'll do it later I'll do it later I'll do it later I'll do it later uh okay well we'll come okay we'll come back to body count a little later uh in the convo we're still trying to
03:20:12
Brian Atlassee if we can get Andrew Wilson uh there's some mic situations going on so by the way sopia were you did you get an opportunity to use the restroom yes I did okay cool cool cool I know I dragged you back here while you were trying to go so I just wanted to make sure that we
03:20:25
Brian Atlasdid that uh let's talk to Tina here for a little bit Tina I'm scared the first thing you told me was you've hooked up with a trans girl before um did did you know experience I
03:20:38
Dina / Savannah (mixed)didn't know yeah it was for only fans actually trans and it was a bit of a mind for sure like cuz cuz you think like okay we're going to do a cute little like teasing like sleepover vibe video so we're doing a flash but she has
03:20:50
Dina / Savannah (mixed)no tits and then we're just doing a bit of butt stuff word and then uh her dick got hard so I was like okay I'll suck her for a second but it didn't last her dick yeah her dick it's a bit mad yeah
03:21:02
Aaronso I socked her for a few seconds but I felt a bit weird you sucked her dick I did okay it's new to me you know it's new I'm learning I'm learning I have a question for you oh God
03:21:12
Aaronokayed I have to I have to ask I have to ask do you think that trans men who and they're not not posttop so they were signed female at Birth but trans men
03:21:22
Aaronbelong on dating apps in the women's category no because they're not posttop they still have every all the same Parts but they're just identified as a man
03:21:34
Brian Atlasnow so Elliot page should Elliot pageor woman born born female right assigned female trans man should they what should they be allowed what should you be able to swipe on Elliot page basically should
03:21:46
AaronI should they be allowed in because they're biologically a woman so should they be in the women's on the women's dating app saying I'm a I'm a biological woman that makes sense well I don't know if it's really I mean it's possible it's
03:21:59
Brian Atlasit's certainly possible that these dating apps could employ some sort of uh uh in the same way that there's the various filters with height and uh
03:22:09
Aaronpolitical orientation they could introduce something like if you want to disclose your or sex no but if it comes down just to sex do you think like trans
03:22:20
Aaronmen should be self- selecting to put themselves as in the females since they're technically still female I mean it's hard to say I the
03:22:29
Brian Atlasthing is is I don't I don't suspect most straight men want to date trans women or trans men yeah probably um not but more
03:22:41
Aaronthan you're willing to admit what's that I don't think most men know but right now but I think it's more men than and like any transperson will tell you this that like a lot of men privately a lot of straight men privately are attracted
03:22:53
Aaronto them but are to to they're more attracted to trans men or to trans women to trans women straight guys I don't think I don't think straight guys are attracted to trans men even though they know like they
03:23:04
Brian Atlasstill have a vagina the question is though who would they rather have sex with preop we should ask the chat chat Nick pull up the chat what a cop out I want to know what you would say what do you
03:23:16
Aaronmean if you would would you be more comfortable with a trans guy or a trans woman I mean truthfully I'd prefer to not date either fair enough but if you had to if I had to who I who I would
03:23:28
Brian Atlaslike want to have sexual intercourse with yeah Elliot pige who still this basically like the The Hulk Hogan ver I'm doing it Hogan Megan Fox all right
03:23:38
Brian Atlasbrother hul Hogan I would I would the trans I would rather not have sex with either but like if I it was like a bullet a gun
03:23:50
Brian Atlasto my head are you going to a or what's the like what is what is the sexual chat is saying Elliot Pig I'm surprised the female one they're
03:24:01
Aaronsaying the Fe they're saying they'd rather Hulk Hogan basically because so what I are you saying in this scenario so like let's okay let's break it down this is a sexual encounter correct yes sexual encounter so the
03:24:13
Aaronchoice is I can or what a b or have anal sex with a or have sex with a transwoman who is not
03:24:24
Brian Atlaspostop so they still have a so I'd be you do I would anal I would have uh I would uh giving or taking I would be i' would be giving top bottom the anal sex topping a trans
03:24:37
Aarongiving is you're yeah you're the top top but you could also be bottoming a trans woman but possibilities okay I
03:24:45
Brian Atlaswould rather if I had to choose gun to my head gun to my head I you know I it'd probably have to be the uh the the one with the
03:24:55
Pixie (mixed)H kogan for the win yeah bro that's straight no that's straight son I I take the Andrew Tate stance on this where it's like a Hulk it's like you're
03:25:07
Brian Atlasyou know Andrew Tate describes it he's like like this ridiculous hypothetic OT you're giving me two oh Elliot page versus uh formerly Ellen Paige have you
03:25:18
Pixie (mixed)seen Juno yeah how tall is she I like short women I think she's Elliot Paige is Shor I'm going to get in trouble that no you're good I'll p short I just want to say like when it comes to like Megan Fox with the penis like just like what
03:25:30
TTS/ChatAndrew Tate said like you can kind of like move thean I dis hold on we have Bobby finina donated $200 ladies ladies no decent man
03:25:41
TTS/Chatis attracted to trans anything and no decent man is attracted to a woman that is casual about sex sorry but it's a fact course correct as soon as you can talk to any trans woman they will tell
03:25:54
Aaronyou different they will tell you that the the men that they hook up with are straight men they're not gay men yeah gay men just don't go for trans women yo Bobby finina appreciate your patronage
03:26:04
Brian Atlasman appreciate it um so the tapate thing with the the Megan Fox you can't no but you can't ignore Hulk
03:26:15
Brian AtlasHogan's like big muscles like but but the you know that the person is trans right so it's like you know you know yeah but does your B you can't always
03:26:26
Pixie (mixed)know you would know in this example you know but still like H get like it's just so much more manly and like you're
03:26:34
Aaronlikeing his eight pack his packs the chest hair the beefy neck the be likeand yes give me more like I'm a natural
03:26:45
Aaronsupremacist so Elliot pagee even though I'm pretty sure Elliot pagee has had a mast double Mast to Me Elliot page versus what's the who's a transwoman who's hot I'm trying
03:26:58
Aaronto think of who's a famous transom this just not famous trans woman Britney Cade who oh Point that's my favorite G Blair
03:27:08
Aaronwhite Blair white ellot page no no Blair white ellot page ell page yes yes okay what the okay I I just think do you
03:27:20
Aaronthink do you think I'm like wrong is that is that no I don't think you could be wrong on this question I just think it's an interesting like thought experiment you know because I think most men honestly would say they'd rather hook up with Blair white than Elliot
03:27:32
Brian Atlaspage your chat is an exception your chat is an exception Blair white or Elliot Pig trans straw man that's why I stick to anal
03:27:43
Brian Atlassex see me me personally look occasionally like with with a female look anal sex it's nice it's a novelty I
03:27:53
Aaronprefer I prefer mhm even Elliot pige is I and no tits no tits and even a beard one day maybe if he grows
03:28:04
Brian Atlasit out fine you don't that's still care about okay pussy's okay I yep all right thank you
03:28:13
Brian Atlasfor p as long as the the deal breakers the laop plasty Apparently I I am I am in favor of uh Nick if you can pull up my nonprofit organization big
03:28:25
Brian Atlaslabia matter BLM #blm uh it's really is a tragedy that you know women get there's 10,000 labia plasties a year in the United States and um it's actually way lower than I would
03:28:37
Brian Atlashave thought to be honest it's not bad it it's one it's one to one is too many one is yes so 10,000 is a tragedy it is tragedy I will talk you out of it don't
03:28:47
Brian Atlasdo it um yeah also you know what I some I thought that occurred to me recently ladies and I want you I want you to weigh in on this oh okay all right grid One
03:28:59
TTS/ChatMotorsports donated $200 gun to my head give me the bullet I can't go out game Brian if Andrew cannot make it I can jump in the office and
03:29:10
Brian Atlasbanter for a bit okay uh I don't know how we can get you on we're not really set up for it but dude grid one thank you for all your patronage man I'm glad to see you back in the chat um well I
03:29:22
Aaronthought the choic is like you have to make the choice yeah yeah I'm not taking bro I'm you wouldn't voluntarily do it this is a gun to your head type thing I'm assuming I wouldn't take the bullet though no it's not that dramatic I know
03:29:34
Aaronyeah like uh but I don't think I think most people woulding if you if you most people if they had to learn for some reason they would see you as if they learned that you hooked up with Hulk Hogan with a I don't think you going like but Hulk hen had a you guys I don't
03:29:47
Aaronthink most people would see it as straight and they'd be like it was still H it's such an extreme that's why I said it's more grounded in reality I think that's more like what the average trans dude look the average trans dude
03:29:59
Brian Atlasis not like beefed up Good Times great talk um am I going to can get canceled for anything I think I was I was fine I was fair was fair all right we have yeah is chops gay all right antenna boy
03:30:11
Brian Atlassecond time donating and once again it's for pix e still massive hers crazy you'll date Zach and not me when I have oh oh when I have the fifth fourth highest rank in Tekken also came across
03:30:23
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)the M girls IG video today apparently she'll give head for buying her a Hello Kitty plush is that um is it correct are you asking if
03:30:35
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)that's correct um well it's a video it's one of my you should you should go watch it on my in she was the mouth That Got Away okay dope I really like Hello Kitty though so I mean that that answers your
03:30:47
Brian Atlasquestion Nick did you show the other chat that came in after this one correct okay you showed it cool cool cool yo anten antenna boy hey thank you very much appreciate it do you know who this is me or antenna boy do you know who
03:30:59
Aaronthat is I don't know who antenna boy is number one pixie enjoyer can I can I link you guys up he's trying to date I guess it's sus they don't have a real picture it's just an avatar all right int boy put I tried to put in a good
03:31:12
Brian Atlasword maybe if they were one in Tekken she could Overlook that you know wait so what were we talking about we just did that question oh the big La a matter yeah oh I was going to ask really quick uh you know what occurred to me
03:31:24
Brian Atlasyou know like how there's dudes who who are premature ejaculators M where's all the women that are premature ejaculators here's the thing if a woman comes too quickly that's not premature it doesn't no because I don't
03:31:38
Aaronthink that's seen as like an uncont control well they had seen as like the man's talent for the most part like oh you must have made her but I don't truthfully though women who come really
03:31:47
Brian Atlasquick and I've you know I've been lucky enough to encounter one or two or three it's very rare like a Pokemon that's actually just like that's on them typically it's not like the guy so good like well don't say that
03:32:00
Brian AtlasBrian that makes it sound like oh that wasn't that orgasm wasn't my doing it's on them no there's just women who are like insanely orgasmic and just come like instantly and can have like multiples and
03:32:12
Brian Atlascome can have multiple orgasms now well m orgasms is more common but there's women who like can it's come like within 10 seconds it's crazy son like in a row
03:32:23
Aaronlike literally 10 seconds after starting sex wow I actually did see a study that said that talked about this with regards to like the orgasm Gap that said some of it did have to do with like some women just being really really sensitive and
03:32:36
Aaronsome not having that sensitivity not for lack of like their partner being able to S yeah you did mention the orgasm Gap earlier Charlie was not familiar with that or he seemed like kind of surprised cuz he was like a women just want to
03:32:47
Aaronlike come every time they it's like dude that's not happening I promise but when the thing is I mean I don't know if we want to talk about go around the table on this but there's also another
03:32:58
AaronGap that exists women can have multiple orgasms that shit's not fair some men have a very short refractory period And I bet the porn most men like they're tapped out for at least 30 minutes yeah
03:33:09
Brian Atlasyou're done you and you can't keep going like a woman could come maybe she can come once you know what gooning is oh yeah goon it's edging edging kind of is it edging I thought it was when guys like come
03:33:22
Aaronmultiple times like they spend hours coming like over and over and over I could have it wrong if it's edging then it doesn't support my AR edging maybe is I've just heard it associated with me and I I'm pretty sure for most men Edge
03:33:35
Aarononce you come it's a WRA 30 minutes minimum huh do you think that could be undone do you think guys could work themselves to be able to do it Indian Kamas wait no the Kamasutra that's like
03:33:45
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)the Tantra thank you Nick thank you I don't know man I don't I think that's that's just I don't know I think the real thing is we should be talking about squirt how some women well that's
03:33:57
Brian Atlasthe thing the women who are really orgasmic who come quick they it also tends to coincide with squirting interestingly do you know what squirt is for me it's mostly urine yeah okay think
03:34:09
Dina / Savannah (mixed)squirt is an orgasm to be honest like I've I've squirted and I've felt a bit released but I've also felt way better sometimes without squirting see for me I like when I discovered I could squirt
03:34:19
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)that was like the fullest orgasm I've ever had like my whole body I felt like really drained afterward but I wanted to do again so like it was I don't know I loved it I've read somewhere and it's been a while so I might be completely
03:34:31
Pixie (mixed)off the mark but that had like a like a different chemical composition than PE but maybe I'm just wrong I thought it's mostly urine but the rest of it's like water there's like other stuff mixed in but it is mostly urine um the way that they know this is that they show the
03:34:45
Aaronbladder before before and after and it was emptied after so yeah although in pornography when you see squirting here's I'm news flash it's most of it's women peeing themselves it's not them squirting just making it is mostly yeah
03:34:57
Brian Atlasit is mostly Ur but you talked about the orgasm Gap and uh so you what what is your point with that though like that it's unfair like in casual encounters or even in
03:35:08
Aaronrelationships that women are not climaxing as frequently or even at all as compared to men I think it's unfair to both people because I think is fulfilling when both people like have an orgasm and come so I'm not even trying to say like it sucks only for the women
03:35:21
Aaronbecause I think men walk away wrongly but with a feeling of sexual inadequacy if they can't make their partner come but it's very common for women to not be able to yes but I just did in the in the in the context of the conversation we were having I think Charlie conflates
03:35:33
Aaronthis hookup culture with women that are like like experiencing tons of pleasure when I actually don't think that sexual pleasures the reason why people engage in Hook women specifically engage in hookups because there's not much to be
03:35:44
Aaronfound in the org Department other types of pleasure sure but yeah but it would be too invasive to ask Charlie like are you making your wife come every time it be a little it might
03:35:56
Aaronbe a little much a little much little much so I mean maybe he was outing himself as like super vial because he seemed to not have knowledge of the orgasm Gap so he was like okay not a problem for me just he waited for
03:36:07
Brian Atlasmarriage question for the whole panel yeah they don't know anything else they've only had sex with each other question for the whole panel here of all the men that you've had sex with what percentage of them have been able to
03:36:19
Sophiamake you come 1% one and I'm in a relationship with perc what percentage we'll start with you we'll go around the table go ahead honestly I didn't even know I that females could come until
03:36:30
Sophialike my third relationships it's so messed up I thought I mean I the pleasure of sex like I I felt the pleasure but it it I didn't have an orgasm I I agree with you that it can
03:36:41
Sophiastill be sex can still even if you don't climax or or it can still be pleasurable yeah it was pleasurable for me and I also found pleasure in giving so like it
03:36:51
Sophiamade me really happy and it turned me on when they uh felt good same so I didn't even know that I could have an orgasm until I met specific person um and they actually made me squirt and I didn't
03:37:04
Sophiaeven know that I could do the mouth That Got Away ever ever since that like ever since that person I've never been able
03:37:11
Aaronto again rip RP's in the chat boys wait was I was I was 19 okay that's just about the or like not knowing that women can come until you're 19 That's crazy cuz most women that I've talked to they
03:37:24
Sophiadon't necessarily masturbate till later but they do figure out before 19 uh clarifying I was 19 with this the squirt thing oh okay that first the orgasm with like um a man I probably probably would
03:37:36
Brian Atlaswait clarifying question for you a guy had not been able to make you climax into your third relationship but I mean like yourself were you able to yourself oh yeah I was able to I thought you were
03:37:47
Aaronsaying you didn't discover that feature until 19 I was like that's crazy and so like but the two previous guys you said you were in relationships with them and
03:37:56
Sophialike did they give it the college try they like were they trying to make you come I feel like I feel like maybe it's because they weren't really experienced okay and I I wasn't either
03:38:08
Sophiaat the time so I didn't really know much about it or my body but yeah so was that but the one you've only been with one guy who's been able to make you go the
03:38:20
Brian Atlasdistance RP is in the chat boys um out of how many I don't know you know out of how many dudes what's the percentage what do you mean are you asking me how much my how many body can
03:38:31
Brian AtlasI mean if I mean what you don't have to say guess you want me to guess yeah oh god well why don't you tell us the percentage of guys who've been able to I fall
03:38:42
Aaroninertion huh want to he someone in your chat but I volunteer for action oh my goodness what were your question I'm sorry what percentage of the guys you've been with that was able
03:38:54
Brian Atlasto make me able to make you yeah he's just asking for your body count so that he can yeah it is actually a tricky thing like if depending on the percentage they give you can sort of sus out the I feel like as soon as I give
03:39:06
Brian Atlasyou my body count you're going to be like cap cap okay well what sure what is it it's eight okay multiply it by three and that's the real number I was waiting for that no okay I'll sure okay I'll I I
03:39:18
Aaronbelieve you I believe you uh so only one guy out of bit what any math people here what is that 1 18 well percentage oh is that like decimal wise got to do it move
03:39:30
Aaronthe decimal you get your percentage 13% no less yeah oh leave my math right there why could your denominator be 10 this would be easy is it I've never been able to do mental math I don't know
03:39:42
Brian Atlasanyways uh what about you Aaron only one and that's why I'm in a relationship the current guy okay even in some of your other encounters no no nope what about
03:39:53
Pixie (mixed)[Music] you maybe like three I don't want to answer this
03:40:03
Pixie (mixed)question is it zero pixie I'm sorry pixie is it zero is it zero
03:40:13
TTS/Chatmaybe maybe damn those Miami guys are up it's hard out here okay uh Apollo
03:40:23
TTS/ChatShinoda donated $200 thank for the panel except Madison who is already redpilled do you ever that consider later after Road heart/ put up wet you will come to
03:40:36
Brian Atlasrealize just how deceived you've been by Third wave plus feminism okay all right well we'll we'll come back to the convo but if you guys want to answer it thank you Apollo I don't I don't understand I can't even see it do you ever consider
03:40:49
Brian Atlasthat you will come to realize just how deceived you've been by Third W feminism basically do you guys realize that feminism has lied to you and it's just a lie and the patriarchy is actually kind
03:41:00
Brian Atlasof dope I thought the patriarchy didn't exist how could it be dope well it doesn't exist but it would be that's what he's saying you know it would be dope if it came back I say the
03:41:11
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)patriarchy and the matriarchy it's about yin and yang and I think that the world will always be out of balance as long as we're reliant on one gender over
03:41:21
Aaronthe other period have you read the boy problem I object to the title on its face but no you have a copy behind you that's why I'm asking you I think that's
03:41:32
Brian Atlaswhat it's called right oh the boy crisis the boy crisis problem yeah Warren frell yes Warren frell you know what other I interviewed him actually but yeah yeah okay well then you know that he wrote The Myth of male privilege yes okay but in that book what he really goes on to
03:41:44
Aarondescribe is all of the pitfalls of patriarchy did he yeah because he's talking about how men suffer a lot as far as like Combat fatalities of course as like the go-to men have to like disproportionate shoulder burdens like
03:41:56
Brian Atlasthat does he actually say under the patriarchy though yes he does because I I agree with all his points that yes here are the ways in which men suffer I'm not sure if he and I I listened to
03:42:06
Brian Atlasthe audio book but it was a while ago um I don't know if he actually says that men suffer under the patriarchy I don't if his act I could be wrong I don't know if his actual position is that we
03:42:19
Aaroncurrently live in the patriarchy I don't know that he says current patriarchy but he does say that all of those are manifestations of really yeah I and he says to read it the biggest weakness for
03:42:30
Aaronmen is their perceived strength and the biggest strength for women is their perceived vulnerability and like and their perceived weakness effectively but he is talking about that in the context of like men suffering under patriarchy it affects everybody when women talk
03:42:43
Aaronabout the patriarchy and feminist in particular they're not only talking about a system that oppresses women it also oppresses men and all the ways that he talks about I mean I sort of loneliness
03:42:53
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)depression yeah I think feminism gets uh misled because the word feminism is feminine it's woman but feminism is about everyone it's not just about like it's not really clear to me that there's
03:43:05
Brian Atlasa patriarchy though have you seen the Barbie movie I don't think I I don't think we should site to woke Hollywood films as a basis for uh having like an actual
03:43:18
Aaronintellectual conversation I didn't see it I didn't see it why not it doesn't interest me to to see you should it's a roar Shack test everybody depending on how you see it can project like oh it's really a conservative movie or it's really a liberal movie there's a lot of
03:43:30
Aaronconservatives that really liked it yeah that said it was actually like said that Barbie was less happy when she rejected the patriarchy but so what is the patriarchy guys on horses that's all I mean I think we have
03:43:43
Brian Atlasa gynocentric social order so it's not clear to me if we have an actual patriarchy if we do have a patriarchy you know there's this idea that we uh that men are somehow favored in society
03:43:55
Brian Atlasand men have certain privileges just by virtue of being male I mean it that doesn't really seem no it doesn't really seem apparent to me if we do in fact
03:44:04
Brian Atlashave a patriarchy where where the social order is to elevate men at the expense of women then I I fail to see how that's even possible possible if
03:44:15
Brian Atlasmore men die in war men are forced into war men are less likely to get a college education more men die on the job um men are more incarcerated men are mutilated
03:44:26
Brian Atlasupon birth men are more homeless men uh Delete thems or self har delete themselves at higher rates um how can it possibly be that there's a patriarchy if all of these things exist oh you're what you're talking about is manifestations
03:44:40
Aaronof patriarchy because the patriarchy does not only affect men or do not only affect women it affects men too and I what the patriarchy what is the patriarchy really quick on your question of like who has more rights if can we extend this globally because there's
03:44:52
Aaronstill like countries like Iran there's women who are forbidden from being able to drive simply because they're women that's the law there let's talk within the confines of Western Wern Western Society I think um even in Western society when you look at like the people
03:45:04
Pixie (mixed)who have made like the rules and regulations for most of Western Society it has been men because women have been barred from being in finances women have been barred in partaking in war um you know we complain about like hey you know
03:45:17
Pixie (mixed)more men have died in war but because they were the only ones allowed to because women were seen as too weak and therefore not competent enough you would not send your women not dying in war it
03:45:28
Brian Atlasseems to me as if that would be a privilege it's not a privilege to be conscripted to go die in some trench in France and get trench foot and get shell shocked when you come back do you think
03:45:40
Brian Atlasmost women are in favor of the draft though most do you think most feminists are in favor of the draft do I think most feminists well it's sort of a moot point I don't know if moot point is the right word the draft will
03:45:52
Brian Atlasnever be abolished because there's conceivably some scenario in every single country where the Country Must compel its citizenry to arm itself against some potential enemy so the the
03:46:05
Brian Atlasdraft is never going away but the conscription could apply equally to men and women it should and it ought to or but but yes but should there just I agree should there just not be War yes
03:46:17
Brian Atlasbut it's wishful thinking no conscription there will always be war no there will always be war and and but people what coincides with a Perpetual state of of War throughout the world is
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Brian Atlasthere will always be a need for forced military conscription who do you think starting these wars Brian well that's it's interesting that you bring that up because actually they've Ser they did uh when comparing monarchs for example
03:46:40
Aaronqueens were actually much more likely to wage Wars than men than Kings rather we going to relegate it to just Western let's do Western democracies not monarchies men women had input in these
03:46:51
Brian Atlasdecisions well actually I also want to challenge you on that so fine let's remove monarchs where it's actually been shown if you actually compare uh Queens to Kings they queens were much more
03:47:01
Brian Atlaslikely to wage war um and often times those wars were quite uh deadly when it comes when it came to casualties and were they conservative or liberal I don't I don't know I don't
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Aaronknow the political leanings of like monarchs from 300 years ago I don't know know what the that's truly the variable of who's going to be more likely to lend themselves to start wars I think um George Bush the Iraq War
03:47:25
Brian Atlasthe Afghanistan war these are examples of presidents like to w war what were the two were there even two primary political parties during uh like Queen Victoria or like the the reigning Queens
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Brian Atlasthrough have constitutional but I I would assume that probably like you look you look at any world leaders uh over like 100 or 200 years ago I
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Aaronwould assume by today's standard they'd all be like extremely conservative but we don't even have to go back that far for the monarchy because there's still a constitutional monarchy in the UK so they have like the Tories and the labor party so I have a feel the prime minister is going to be the one who
03:48:00
Brian Atlasreally really prime minister can you think of any like female politicians for example who are like massive warhawks yes like Hillary Clinton for example sure or Liz
03:48:11
Brian AtlasCheney sure there's like women who are Chen are conservative though sure how did we get here anyways we were talking about how did we get to the dra we talking we talking about the orgasm Gap all of a sudden cuz I asked you who starts these
03:48:23
Brian Atlaswars is the patriarchy responsible for the orgasm Gap who starts these wars but who starts these wars I don't think it's I don't think that it has anything
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Brian Atlasto do with gender I think we must look Beyond gender as to why War occurs I think it has much more to do with power money exactly why are we going to blame
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Brian Atlasyou think people go to war because like ah yes it's like the Valor of war and like I want that Glory of war and on contracts pull a pretty penny stuff like
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Aaronthat it's money and power yeah that's my point but it has nothing to do with your G like gender as a male no I that's ridiculous that it it's something that
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Aaronthat transcends gender altogether and that when you really see what it comes down to with who makes that decision it's going to have Financial interests are going to be behind it and then conservative ideology or liberal ideology like ideology and money will dictate that not men necessary so do you
03:49:23
Brian Atlasthink if we had a matriarchy and women were broadly in you know held positions of power do you think that there was there would be a there would be less war no no not
03:49:33
Brian Atlasnecessarily no okay well this but I it sounded like to me you were saying that well under patriarchy there's a greater likelihood of there being Warfare so under matriarchy the point I was trying to illustrate by bringing that up is
03:49:46
Aaronthat for the vast majority of history and probably going forward men have been the ones to hold the majority of political oppos it's because it's not necessarily because they're men not necessarily but it's one factor yes you
03:49:58
Brian Atlasagree at least that it's one factor for example if somebody's victim of a crime and they happen to be black were they were they does it necessarily mean that they
03:50:08
Brian Atlaswere targeted for they were victimized because of their skin color no not necessarily okay it's probably going to be so so other sort of discrepancies just because a discrepancy exists
03:50:19
Brian Atlasdoesn't necessarily mean that it's because of you know something occurred to somebody because of their gender because of their race because of EX whatever trait you want to attribute