Charlie Kirk DESTROYS Whatever Podcast?! Charlie Kirk vs. Feminists & E-Girls! | Dating Talk #130
Date: 2024-01-29
Duration: 7h 08m
Guests
Brian AtlasIdentified Speakers
SPEAKER_02Sophia(guest)
SPEAKER_04Charlie Kirk(guest)
SPEAKER_06Brian Atlas(host)
SPEAKER_08Aaron(guest)
SPEAKER_11Pixie (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_12Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_13Dina / Savannah (mixed)(guest)
SPEAKER_14Molly Little / Angel (mixed)(guest)
Key Moments
00:08:40
OtherCharlie Kirk reveals he waited until marriage for sex
“Charlie Kirk says waiting until marriage was 'the greatest decision of my life'”
00:12:42
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about her father relationship
“Charlie Kirk asks Molly if she has a good relationship with her father; Molly says she doesn't talk to him. Kirk: 'I'm not surprised.'”
00:31:45
OtherCharlie Kirk asks Molly Little about porn addiction and compares it to drug dealing
“Kirk asks if porn is a drug, compares porn performers to drug dealers; panel pushes back strongly.”
00:52:10
OtherMolly Little says she would not quit porn for $1 million/year
“Charlie Kirk offers hypothetical $1M/year if she quit porn; Molly says no, she would still do it because she is an exhibitionist.”
00:57:28
ControversyCharlie Kirk asks panel 'What is a woman?'
“Kirk presses Pixie and Aaron for biological definition of woman; panelists give social constructivist answers. Kirk: 'There are zero genders, two sexes, and infinite personalities.'”
02:37:33
OtherCharlie Kirk departs the show
“Brian thanks Charlie Kirk; Kirk plugs TPUSA.com and The Charlie Kirk Show podcast. Kirk thanks show for being 'the most respectful' he's seen.”
03:18:30
OtherMolly Little's body count revealed from viral Twitter clip
“Brian reveals Molly's viral Twitter clip claiming body count over 100; Molly clarifies mostly from shoots, fewer than 10 off-camera civilians.”
03:20:15
OtherDina Snows reveals she hooked up with a trans woman (not knowing at first)
“Dina describes OF shoot with a trans woman where she did not know beforehand the person had male genitalia; briefly performed oral.”
05:55:10
OtherSelf-rating round begins
“Brian prompts Stiffler chat donation request: everyone rates their looks 1-10. Results: Sophia=9, Molly=10, Aaron<10, Dina=8, Brian=5.”
06:20:00
OtherDina Snows recounts hotel gangbang story
“Dina describes leaving a boring guy in hotel lobby to hook up with a sports coach and his manager — a foursome in sequence.”
06:21:00
OtherDina Snows discusses labiaplasty
“Dina shares she got a labiaplasty for cosmetic and physical discomfort reasons; asymmetry caused discomfort and she felt self-conscious while filming OF content.”
Topics Discussed
00:00:06
Introductions & Relationship Status
Guests introduce themselves; Brian asks about relationship status and longest relationships. Charlie Kirk introduces himself and shares marriage/family perspective.
00:06:40
Hookup Culture & Purpose of Dating
Charlie Kirk advocates dating with intent to marry; sex as sacred. Guests debate hookup culture, open relationships, and casual sex. Molly Little discusses porn and open relationship dynamic.
00:13:20
What Is Love — Definitions
Panel goes around table defining love. Greek words for love (philia, storge, eros, agape) introduced by Charlie Kirk. Discussion of fear of commitment.
00:32:40
Porn Addiction & Social Effects
Charlie Kirk argues porn is a social toxin with drug-like addiction; references 'Your Brain on Porn' by Gary Wilson. Panel debates regulation, age verification, and comparison to drug prohibition.
00:38:36
Political Orientation & Dating Across Party Lines
Guests reveal political orientations; debate whether they can date someone with opposing politics. Pixie's 20-minute date story. Gender divergence in political affiliation discussed. Charlie Kirk on value alignment in marriage.
00:54:24
Feminism — Definition & Debate
Aaron and Pixie identify as feminist; Charlie Kirk asks them to define it. Debate over equal pay, gender wage gap, and economic equality.
00:57:28
What Is a Woman — Gender Identity Debate
Charlie Kirk asks panelists to define 'woman' without circular definition. Debate on biological sex vs social gender construction. Trans rights, puberty blockers, trans kids, detransitioners, and gender dysphoria discussed at length.
01:52:00
Abortion Debate
Panel debates abortion rights. Charlie Kirk gives his pro-life position. Statistics on abortion rates. Aaron and others argue pro-choice positions.
02:37:33
Charlie Kirk Departs; Madison Joins
Charlie Kirk thanks the show, plugs TPUSA; leaves around 157min. Madison (Whatever Podcast staff) joins the panel. Andrew Wilson attempted call-in but mic cord snapped; never joined.
02:39:13
Dina Snows — AVN, Labiaplasty, Relationship Views
Dina discusses AVN convention experience, labiaplasty (medical + cosmetic reasons), sleeping through friend groups, hotel gangbang story, open relationship preferences, and difficulty with commitment.
03:16:40
Body Count Discussion
Molly Little's 100+ body count (mostly on-camera) discussed after viral Twitter clip. Panel debates whether body count matters for dating.
03:36:00
Orgasm Gap & Sexual Experience
Discussion on percentage of men able to make female partners orgasm. Orgasm gap, multiple orgasms, squirting, gooning/edging discussed.
05:55:19
Self-Rating Round (Looks 1-10)
Stiffler chat donation prompts self-rating round. Sophia: 9. Molly: 10. Aaron: less than 10. Dina: 8. Brian: 5. Panel debates delusion of self-rating 10.
06:03:50
Financial Dynamics in Dating — Provider Role
Sophia's story of supporting unemployed boyfriend. Debate on whether women should expect financial provision even when they earn more. Brian discusses provider role; plays TikTok "70k boyfriend" clip.
Transcript
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00:57:41
Pixie (mixed)just can you answer that question without using the word woman or Womanhood it's because basically would be a functional definition so as a society we have an understanding of what
00:57:50
Pixie (mixed)woman is what is a man yeah that's basically a man well then X XY chromosomes okay but the problem with that is that I didn't check your chromosomes before coming in here and
00:58:03
Pixie (mixed)calling you a man and you didn't check my chromosomes before coming in here or genitals or genitals calling me a woman so let me let me just play this out so first of all you can't give me a definition without using the word woman move that's a functional definition yeah
00:58:16
Charlie Kirksure do you know what functional definitions are I'm very well aware and you should have a functional definition for the most important question in Civilization right well the point of a functional definition functional definitions are are a definition that is
00:58:27
Pixie (mixed)by the function of something so like for example um no there's an objective defition one is like a like one is a function of one do you understand what I'm trying to say yeah I I do so then
00:58:39
Charlie Kirkcan you give me an objective a functional utilitarian any sort of biological definition of what a woman is cu how how can we debate feminism if we can't agree what a woman is I don't I would even like I feel like pixie's
00:58:52
Aarondefinition absolutely satisfies the definition of what constitutes Womanhood but I would Define it only slightly differently which is that it's a person who performs a set of social roles that are typically associated with um with
00:59:04
Aaronfeminine characteristics but not necessarily because there are even CIS women who fall outside of this and we still consider them women nonetheless like Butch lesbians for example are women that exhibit very masculine characteristics but nonetheless Society
00:59:17
Brian Atlasunderstands them to be women so I find CIS to be a very offensive word by the way I don't know how you feel about the sis I don't think to be honest I didn't mean to trigger you I would given you a trigger warning
00:59:29
Aaronbefore if I do you think anyone can become a woman yep but not anyone will okay so then at what point do they become a woman it will depend on where they are in their gender transition for the most part does it require drugs to
00:59:41
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)become a woman no personally I think it's a mindset it's a it's a spiritual energy it's it's the vibe that you give off you know like the the vibe um before we continue on I want to just give
00:59:53
Brian Atlaseveryone an opportunity to answer char No totally fine to answer Charlie's question I know you two had already answered uh what what is a woman starting with you we'll go around the
01:00:02
Sophiatable go ahead oh can you um skip me we'll come back to her I I am a woman that's that's the best answer that's the one that Tangi Brown Jackson should have
01:00:13
Dina / Savannah (mixed)given in front of the Senate so come back to you or yeah come back to me come back to me let me same I'm like I'm a woman I what is a woman like I don't what about you
01:00:27
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)can I have you tilt your mic down just to T perfect go ahead right there yeah um I'm a woman um but I also do think that um a woman is someone who
01:00:37
Dina / Savannah (mixed)identifies as a woman um and that's that's that I mean thetically it's someone who's born with a womb but this
01:00:49
Dina / Savannah (mixed)generation obviously is proven that people men can turn into women um so I'm not discluding that I still think that they should be um perceived as what
01:00:59
Dina / Savannah (mixed)they're um portraying themselves as but technically I still think trans girls they are a version of a man but they can still be class as a woman which is a bit tricky but yeah yeah
01:01:10
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)Molly um I'll say the same answer I think I think what constitute as a woman is the energy that you give off and that you want to put out into the
01:01:19
Charlie Kirkworld so if being a woman or a female is a mindset can your age also be a mindset can you choose to be can you just say I
01:01:29
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)feel 14 which is a classifiable mental condition by the way of in it so I I will say um yes I know people that act way younger than they actually are and
01:01:41
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)they love acting way younger than they actually are and I know people that you know like act way older than they are and they you know and they Pride themselves in that and I think okay fair
01:01:50
Charlie Kirkenough so if a 35-year-old man claims he's 14 should we have any problem if he wants to have sex with another 14-year-old no no no I'm not saying that you should probably should have a problem I think no no I'm not saying
01:02:01
TTS/Chatthat should should be able to have sex but but they can they I feel 14 to state that grid One Motorsports donated
01:02:12
TTS/Chat$200 the man who owns have paid himself 1a3 mil a day last year he loves feminism today men act in female can be better women than real women feminism
01:02:23
Charlie Kirkhas failed you how can the Patriot help you today that was beautiful grid one thank you appreciate it a lot yeah he's um so going back but if your
01:02:35
Charlie Kirkidentity can is an energy or a feeling that can change why would it be wrong for 35-year-old to say he's 14 therefore he's not but then how is someone who has
01:02:46
Dina / Savannah (mixed)male parts a woman if he's not a woman that's too different thing a mindset in time your age isn't a mindset I mean but then why is why is your sex or your
01:02:57
Dina / Savannah (mixed)gender a mindset and your age isn't I don't know which one is which one of you could probably say but sex and gender at least acknowledge that sex and gender are two separate things there are zero
01:03:07
Charlie Kirkgenders two Sexes and infinite personalities okay gender doesn't exist what do you mean okay sex does so the parts you're born with is who you are how does gender not exist so it's a
01:03:19
Charlie Kirk1960s clinical term largely made out of the Academy of John money and Alfred kiny and many post modern child psychiatrists many of whom by the way were not really great people but we
01:03:29
Charlie Kirkdon't have to go into that but gender is a a new term of the last 50 or 60 years yeah but it still exists but personalities exist we can agree with that proclivities or interests or likes
01:03:40
Charlie Kirkexist so by that definition then you're if you're a woman or a man is your energy it is your personality well yeah you're the the goal or what used to be the case is the
01:03:52
Charlie Kirkvast vast vast majority 99.9% of all people their biology and their reality or their how they viewed their reality I should say were in alignment and now that's not so much the case so the people are first of all
01:04:04
Charlie Kirkthere's many elements to this people are told that they can become something they can't so they go on a very very um damaging self-destructive pattern of medical
01:04:15
Charlie Kirkinterventions that even if you're protrans you have to acknowledge that you know hysterectomy at age 17 is not exactly an easy surgery I don't think anyone at 17 should be altering their
01:04:26
Charlie Kirkbody but no I agree um it's just it's happening right now at a thousands of young kids across the country are getting um it's called gender airmy gender care but it's irreversible
01:04:37
Charlie Kirksurgeries both so puberty blockers and hormone blockers thousands of kids that are getting hysterectomies across the United States no thousands of kids are getting puberty blockers or hormone block hormone blockers or puberty blockers probably more tens of thousands you could stop using those and as far as
01:04:51
Charlie Kirkbreast reduction surgery or hysterectomies we don't know the number but I'll even say it's probably only a couple dozen it's probably you're right it's probably not thousands right but it's any we don't know the exact numbers but an estimate is anywhere between 10
01:05:01
Charlie Kirkto 15,000 minors and is growing are currently receiving monthly doses of horomone replacement Theory estrogenic therapy yeah but you can stop those and be like well that's the question right
01:05:14
Charlie Kirkuh there's a lot of D transitioners that are speaking out that are not able to re you know puberty is not an assembly line that you could just push a button and restart that is a increasingly disproven scientific theory right now Cole is the
01:05:26
Charlie Kirkone of the most famous D transitioners who she's in her 20s and she was sold the bill of goods and when she was 16 she said I think I'm a man and she went on a very very aggressive regimen of hormone blockers and puberty blockers um
01:05:37
Charlie Kirkand she has huge regret and hopefully one day she'll be able to have you know have children again but it gets back to a question of can so I'm just making a point though that these these ideas have consequences it's more than just a silly
01:05:49
Charlie Kirkquestion oh what is a woman that if you can't answer it or at the very least say that you should allow minors to become adults they make these decisions then and this is not a small thing the quote unquote gender affirming care we know that in
01:06:02
Charlie KirkCalifornia you have to be 18 years old to get a tattoo MH and yet 14-year-olds can go to what we call a doctor and get an highly aggressive hormone replacement therapy treatment sometimes without even
01:06:14
Pixie (mixed)notifying their parent and all of these are ramifications of the inability to answer very simple biological questions I would be interested in seeing your exact like study or citation for when it comes to like puberty blockers because I
01:06:26
Pixie (mixed)know a lot of people or not a lot of people there's a lot of people who end up on puberty blockers not because they're necessarily trans but because they're going through puberty too early and there are clear like negative side effects and consequences of let's say
01:06:39
Charlie Kirklike a 10-year-old girl getting her pu that's a separate I you're right that's yeah but it's used on CIS children I think like what you're talking about precocious puberty but it's it's not used on perfectly healthy physically abl bodied children right so to there's a
01:06:52
TTS/Chatgreat book that I'll I guess we have modest heima donated $200 Charlie sorry you had to travel to Kam Foria for the show my boy did you
01:07:02
TTS/Chatdirty by putting you next to the demon WTF I don't think you're a demon way props on the new well maybe you are a demon you are brain dead sad sad all
01:07:14
Charlie Kirkright mon get to you the chat I will just I'll reference one book and she's a non-political doctor her doctor's do her name is Dr Miriam Gman it's a book called Lost and transnation she has she has treated not just theorized she's a
01:07:27
Charlie Kirkclinician and a physician not just someone who writes abstract medical journals and she is one of the most outspoken people against what is called gender affirming care and she she's treating hundreds of kids that are now d
01:07:39
Aaronby this I know D transitioners exist but what do you say to the thousands of trans people that actually report happiness and and being healthy after they receive gender affirming care don't don't doubt that in the short term testosterone therapy from someone who
01:07:51
Charlie Kirkhas a fair amount of testosterone it can it can make you feel confident it can make you feel better in your skin that is not a lasting effect though is that but it is for some people well you be the suicide rate I can't say that word
01:08:03
Charlie Kirkum sorry the self harm rate after 8 to 10 years actually goes up it nearly doubles and we're still studying it that's the other point is that I'm not going to throw around a lot of studies here um and they very well might be
01:08:15
Charlie Kirkright it might have helped them individually but let me give you an example if a medication is on the market and it harms one in 250,000 people for example robotussin you guys ever take robotussin no no it's a cough thing it's
01:08:27
Charlie Kirkyou know they they they found that one of their lots of robotussin last week might have been contaminated and they did a massive recall right and it was just a whisper of it okay the point that
01:08:37
Charlie Kirkis in medicine the first rule used to be first Do no harm and the fact still is right no they've changed it hypocritic oath they've changed it yeah they have who's they the American Medical Association and a lot of the the medical
01:08:49
Charlie Kirkinstitutions um it's similar but by like woke ideology well you'd be surprised actually the med the medical industry has been taken over by a lot of radical all doctors are woke now well for example I mean when they were giving
01:09:01
Charlie Kirkmonoclonal antibodies in the city of New York they were prioritizing People based on the color of their skin uh black individuals in New York got monoclonal antibodies above their white counterparts was it based on the color of their skin or like maybe their background related to like their
01:09:13
Charlie Kirksocioeconomic status it was it was racial um but I don't want to get too deep into that RIT hole but the point that I'm just trying to make is that in medicine in particular you must have a cautious approach even if there were pluses and positives which might very
01:09:25
Charlie Kirkwell be true if there's even a 1% a 2% adverse event you pull the drug immediately because you first Do no harm if there's something that is actively damaging a society and it's now a
01:09:35
Charlie Kirkcertifiable um fact that we see thousands of young kids are being told that they can transition when in reality they have other underlying issues that we should address depression trauma anxiety or they're on the autism
01:09:47
Charlie Kirkspectrum disorder and they get mislabeled be on whether a Tik Tok video or some sort of other thing makes them feel as if they might have you know a transgender issue when they very well
01:09:58
Charlie Kirkmight have other issues that need to be addressed one in 27 men are a young boys are autistic anyway sorry I don't mean totally fine I just had a quick question for you two since you guys had pretty
01:10:08
TTS/Chatstrong positions on this can men get pregnant oh G One Motorsports donated $200 if we want to talk numbers then
01:10:19
TTS/Chathonesty requires we first admit that gender dysphoria is a mental condition which should be treated first before before any physical treatments are given accuracy matters all right grid One Motorsports no longer call it gender
01:10:31
Charlie Kirkdysphoria unfortunately I just want to I would actually make your argument for you they they call and they don't even call it a medical condition they they call it um I actually don't even know what it's actually called gender disphoria used to be the clinical term
01:10:43
Charlie Kirkum but um theyve changed it s yeah that's that's right but I can go deeper into that the old way we used to treat treat this is called watchful waiting where we believed that puberty was the solution not the problem in almost every single case and Europe was actually the
01:10:56
Charlie Kirkpioneer of this is that when you allow puberty to play its course these individuals they might end up being lesbian or gay but not transgender and that's a completely different thing that doesn't require hormones or eventually
01:11:08
Pixie (mixed)anti-depressants on top of it I'm sorry pixie you were going to say something so yeah my question was can men get pregnant um two things I would say if you're a biological male if we're going to Define male through biology or
01:11:20
Aaronwhatever then no um I do want to push back on some things that I heard earlier um before you do that go ahead Aaron do you have a answer to the I would say yes because anybody who has a uterus has the
01:11:30
Aaroncapacity to give birth so for example a trans guy who gets pregnant yes would be a man who is pregnant but if you're talking about a man who is assigned a man at Birth and does not have a uterus then no he doesn't have the ability to
01:11:42
Charlie Kirkget pregnant you you look at me like I'm crazy or what do you disagree but a lot of women so you want to know why young men are going away from the left that's why young men are leaving the left why
01:11:52
Aaronthey want why cuz what you just said is uncomfortable acknowledging reality that some trans men can get pregnant what you just said is at war with reality and you know massacring a lot of women can't get
01:12:04
Brian Atlasprant either vocab it just a question it just a question you know um I'll let you come in in just a sec pixie which one of you referenced chromosomes me is that
01:12:15
Brian Atlaswell you said like oh n you didn't check our chromosomes right well people understood what a woman was before chromosomes were discovered um so the the definition does not require this
01:12:27
Pixie (mixed)type of abstraction people understood what a woman was on the basis of the societal Norms at the time generally speaking right it's more precisely it's about like the gonads if you were at any
01:12:37
Pixie (mixed)point in your life going to produce large gametes then you're a Woman They how Society at least most societies as well outside of like Western as well but even Western we can
01:12:50
Pixie (mixed)make this argument um what they would look at is the way that a person is like necessarily performing so is their role that's why you have like the idea of like non-binary third gender etc etc because there have been people also who have not performed their role as like a
01:13:03
Pixie (mixed)male or female so they're put into the third category third sex whatever um so I would argue that for the vast majority of um human histories and societies what they look at is what is your performance
01:13:16
Pixie (mixed)and that maps on to what we do now because we don't really look at biology we look at people act and that's why let me finish go that's why we also the terms less manly he's less of a man than
01:13:27
Pixie (mixed)him or she's not that womanly makes sense if gender was truly a binary those words would make no sense it would be like cat and not cat that doesn't you can't have a in between really and the
01:13:39
Pixie (mixed)same thing applies for gender there is a spectrum there that's why the set the words less womanly more womanly more manly less manly make sense to us and all of those things are fluid throughout time like what constituted like masculine Tendencies or behaviors will
01:13:52
Aaronbe different now than it was several years ago or even like things like colors like for example pink used to be considered a masculine color pink is no longer really considered a masculine color it's considered a feminine color so there was never anything inherently masculine about the color blue or or the
01:14:05
Charlie Kirkcolor pink or anything like that that could always change at any given point in time do do you think that male brains and female brains or men and women brains are different wired differently there are differences between male and
01:14:17
Aaronfemale brains but I believe it's a matter of like statistical averages of like gray matter there's not going to be like distinct anatomical features that differentiate a female brain from a male brain really yeah you really think that
01:14:29
Pixie (mixed)well no it's proven like scientifically like when we take yes it is when we take a brain scan of a male and female um the average doctor can't look and be like that is a male brain right there not
01:14:38
Charlie Kirktrue no hold on a scan okay if you do a spec scan you can see what parts of the brain light up and in a woman the basil gania and the amydala is far more active
01:14:49
Charlie Kirkwhich is the inner thought Matrix women have a far busier inner thought life than men do would you guys agree with that I AG I was going to say it's it's very that's not true it's very well known that like men um generally are
01:15:02
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)more on The Logical side of things and women are more on the emotional side of things and I think that has a big role or the way that our brains are wired has a big role to play I'm not saying that if you took babies who were completely
01:15:13
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)unmolded that you know their brains would look different but um I think as we age um living the living in the gender that we are given um you know our
01:15:24
Aaronbrains become attuned to certain things and that's why parts of our bra yeah like py backing off of that point I don't doubt that the studies that you looked at did find differences in like brain mapping scans between men and women but the key thing is that they looked at men and women so that's
01:15:37
Aaronalready a brain that's been subjected to a lifetime or not a lifetime but like decades long socialization so that socialization is going to impact it if you looked at like a brain scan of like infants for example like a male infant and a female infant it would be like
01:15:50
Charlie Kirklike how much how different would it really look do you think it would look significantly different no it's not even close of course it's different and I can I could prove it to you in two ways but the first one do you guys know the John money gender experiment no so okay
01:16:02
Charlie Kirkreally quick John money who is a total creep he uh believed that PE this is before we mapped the human genome okay this is before we even knew about chromosomes he said that men and women are blank slates at Birth and he said that they're formed through the toys we
01:16:15
Charlie Kirkgive them the colors we appropriate to them and they're blank slates he then there was these identical twins one of the twins twins Burns themselves terribly in the genitals and he said raise that twin as a girl and basically his entire life he was tortured and you
01:16:27
Charlie Kirkknow awful awful story eventually rebelled against John money and this twin eventually was told that hey you were born a boy but raised as a girl and even had a a vagina put onto you artificially and he was like instead of being mad he was relieved because he
01:16:39
Charlie Kirksaid I knew I was a boy all along so there's no clinical evidence to support that secondly though it's a funnier qu one okay do you hear me out and I think this will resonate with all of you Harvard University locked a group of men in a room alone 100 of them and a group
01:16:52
Charlie Kirkof women in a room alone okay and they said what did you think about for 30 minutes the men no surprise sex and sports the young ladies what did they think of for 30 minutes they replayed
01:17:02
Charlie Kirkconversations that they had in the last couple of days real for the record a man has never replayed conversations that they've had do that our brain all the time our brains are different everybody
01:17:15
Charlie Kirkyou really not do that like I over of course not you don't think about you've never had like a shower arguments or like shower thoughts or anything like that no and that's not Society my friend that is biology you are wired to have
01:17:28
Charlie Kirkthose rethought we aren't it's not a learned behavior it's not about dolls it's not about dresses our biology our brains are made differently
01:17:38
Charlie Kirkyou we don't replay any conversations you've never like done that the thing am I trans cuz sometimes I I'm sometimes I will very rarely though very rarely
01:17:49
Charlie Kirksometimes occasionally we men are very forward thinking what is next the job the interview tomorrow and not saying women aren't women are very reflective that's why females are better at poetry
01:18:02
Charlie Kirkuh women are better at the more relational uh type aspects of being a nurse or an elementary school teacher again that's not learned behavior there is a biological element to it and it starts with we don't even understand the
01:18:14
Charlie Kirkbrain as much as we can we understand like 1% of 1% of it but I think that study and your reaction affirms it because if I had a group of men around you what do you think of when you're alone like I just think of the NFC Championship Game the stock market and you know all the women I've been with or
01:18:27
Charlie Kirkthe women I want to be with it's a little different do you think if they had conducted the study in a different country that the men and women would have given the same answers uh yes I think that these things um are Universal
01:18:39
Charlie Kirkand I mean I can't say to that that would be my speculation that uh the men in Iran are thinking about soccer and Persian women and the women are thinking about you know what's going on in their local neighborhood these things
01:18:52
Charlie Kirktranscend continent they transcend culture and we know that because one of the arguments that you were making is that well you know at the fundamental route these are learned and act you know these are these are put on by Western Society but you go into African villages
01:19:04
Charlie Kirklike very poor third world African villages they don't even have a term for transgender the idea that a man can become a woman or a woman can become man this is a uniquely Western phenomenon that is born out of the academy born out
01:19:16
Charlie Kirkof college that I will say and I think we could agree is is largely they pre on people that have other underlying issues and then it gets built on top of that
01:19:26
Charlie Kirkautism spectrum disorder depression anxiety some other sort of um bipolar schizophrenia think trauma things of that nature um there's a couple of things to push back here Brian if you can quick I don't I don't mean to
01:19:38
Pixie (mixed)monopolize I'm sorry pix no it's okay um there's a couple thing I do want to push back on that because like there are like communities and cultures that we could search up right now in China India various like Native American like
01:19:50
Pixie (mixed)histories that have recognized idea of like third gender or outside gender um that does fit into this binary so I wouldn't say just Western and then on top of that let let them answer no but no no you please continue you are right I can address that at length I don't
01:20:02
Pixie (mixed)think it's fruitful keep going you're not wrong and then on top of that you gave a case study I kind of want to give a case study back um NPR did a article on this I can't remember the name but basically it was about a person who felt
01:20:14
Pixie (mixed)gender fluid and when they felt like they were a man and they did things like spal recognition or other tests regarding that they would score like a man does like higher than most women but when they got into the mindset of being
01:20:26
Pixie (mixed)a woman they would score higher in woman related tasks so yeah it does come back you're saying like this is all predisposed um biology biology biology but there might be something to be said about like oh no if you're thinking like
01:20:37
Pixie (mixed)a man the mindset of a man maybe that's more in tune with certain ways of thinking versus thinking like a woman that doesn't mean it's a 100% biological basis it means that like hey if you're raised to think in a certain pattern
01:20:49
Charlie Kirkyou're going to perform in that pattern I agree I mean if a society a society can mold you of course but you're dealing with very powerful raw material that's underestimated in the current cultural conversation and you can only guide that raw material so much so let
01:21:01
Charlie Kirkme ask another hypothetical I'll just tell you if I sit down with men what what do they always talk about they talk about macro Concepts big things stock market Sports you know things that are very you know
01:21:14
Charlie Kirklike let's just say bigger than individual women if you sit down they'll talk a lot about conversations or relationships they're kids very micro this you know one of the reasons why men and women brains are different and they continue to be different is there's different skill sets and I think we can
01:21:26
Aaronall acknowledge that like men are better at some things than women and women women are better some things than men I don't know why that is a wildly the way that you frame it is like oh women are awesome at like small talk and like sewing or whatever and then men are just
01:21:38
Charlie Kirkawesome at like the stock market and being let me let me ask you a question hold on hold on why is it let me ask you a question why is it that the international chess Foundation doesn't want biological men who who believe they
01:21:50
Aaronare women to compete with women they say that will not allow trans men into the female category why is that I can't speak to that but I'm just if you're going to talk about like representation being the thing that lets you know that oh men are obviously smarter you could
01:22:03
Charlie Kirkbreak this down race I never said smarter I never said smarter I said different then different okay then we could say this my wife does things with my child that I I can't even dream of
01:22:13
Charlie Kirkdoing such as having an intuition compassion empathy she can operate on 30 minutes of sleep I need 8 hours or else I'm like a don't underestimate yourself Charlie on
01:22:25
Charlie Kirkno women have a different giftedness I believe given by God that is completely different men I never said smarter in fact woman's intuition is far better than my intuition I trust my my wife's gut when it comes to people when it
01:22:36
Charlie Kirkcomes to relationships and she leans on me for you know Investments or politics we are given different gifting now with that being said some women have a gifting in that direction those are the
01:22:47
Charlie Kirkexception though there is a general rule and the general rule is that women are far more gifted at people and caring and the intimate I don't mean that demeaning or derogatory I never use the word
01:22:58
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)smarter or Dumber that you might be you might be iner oh thank you Molly no I I actually very much agree with what you're saying um me personally I mean sexuality is a big part of my life um
01:23:10
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)and I think what you're saying actually really ties into a lot of like sexuality because it's the man's role to be um you know kind of like the I mean if you're talking like the nuclear family you know
01:23:22
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)it's like the man's role to kind of be the governing force of family take care of everything on the outside take care of uh you know the the finances the stocks all of that and to kind of be the the rock for all of the um little things
01:23:34
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)that the woman has to go through during the day um just all the little conversations all the things that she has to deal with that you're not there and I think that um you know it's a really beautiful thing like yin and yang
01:23:47
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you know like there's it is beautiful parts of men that compliment women and there's parts of women that complement men and the best thing is is is there's things that women can do that men cannot and there's things that men can do that women cannot and I think that the issue
01:24:01
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)is we try and figure out like who's better what who's more powerful who can you know who gets to say uh what happens and I think that the issue that's really dividing and the beauty comes when you
01:24:12
Brian Atlaskind of bring those skills together I that's wonderfully said Molly that was beautiful Molly let me switch to something really quick we do have two chats we have to read then we'll come back to this topic we have doc here M
01:24:23
Brian AtlasScott Define love as the act of promoting one's spiritual growth the emotion of Love is experienced when we act accordingly most of this panel confuses love with OS sad hey doc thank you so much man appreciate your uh
01:24:37
Brian Atlassupport thank you good to see you back in the chat we have Charlie Kirk fan may I ask the panel do you think the long-term benefits of commitment and monogamy outweigh the short-term
01:24:48
Brian Atlasdopamine hits that come with less committed less loyal damaging relationships SL hookups we can go around the panel really quick on that starting with you go ahead Could you um explain a little bit more give me a
01:25:00
Charlie Kirklittle bit more question can I can I tell them about dopamine super so dopamine is called a neurotransmitter goes super fast like a million miles an hour not that fast but like almost yeah
01:25:10
Charlie Kirkthere you go it is it is the reward molecule so dopamine comes out when you have certain things uh a rewarding uh you it's it's forward-looking right so you actually don't get a dopamine
01:25:22
Charlie Kirkrelease when you hit the climax that's serotone or oxytocin uh it is in anticipation so you're hungry you're going for a good meal or you're going to the next porn video or whatever it might be um so the dopamine hits are addictive
01:25:35
Charlie Kirkso whatever gives you dopamine you want more of um and your your brain is really dopamine dumb so it doesn't know when it's had too much but we've learned in the dopamine science I'm sorry to monopolize on this but there's a great book by a woman by name Dr Anna lmy who
01:25:48
Charlie Kirkdid the best book on dopamine it's called dopamine nation is that for every interval you go up of dopamine you must go down that's why when people go really deep into dopamine they end up getting into depression in the days or the weeks that follow so you go to a rock concert
01:26:00
Charlie Kirkyou're so overwhelmed you might do some drugs C cocaine spokes spikes dopamine alcohol spikes dopamine sex spikes dopamine your brain then has to interval back so next four days you're like I feel so low it's nothing wrong with you and so that's one of my arguments
01:26:12
Charlie Kirkagainst pornography is that without you know it you're actually lowering your dopamine interval so I hope that's helpful thank you it is um I just can you repeat the question one more time with the actual question it's about uh
01:26:24
Brian Atlasyou think uh the dop do you think the dopamine hits are worth it the long-term benefits of commitment and monogamy do they outweigh the short-term dopamine hits that come with less committed less loyal damaging relationship hookups for
01:26:36
Brian Atlasexample it might be very exciting if you're you know jumping from one casual hookup to the next but does that excitement outweigh the long-term
01:26:46
Sophiabenefits of commitment long-term relationships monogamy Etc I for me personally for me I value like I want a
01:26:56
Sophialong-term commitment I want a loyal loyal relationship and I I don't really do like the hookup culture I don't I only have sex with whoever I'm with whoever I'm dating um I feel like
01:27:09
Sophiaeverybody's entitled to their own opinion as well too but for me personally I feel like it's not worth it um and I rather uh how do I put this into words I'm sorry I'm struggling with
01:27:22
Aaronmy thoughts a little bit but that's that's my opinion on it me personally I enjoy that stability but those are my personal preferences that I'm not really interested in imposing upon other people so I think it really comes down to if
01:27:34
Aaronhookups are the thing that make you happy or whatever I don't see anything wrong with going that way I think I'm confused with the question that was me too a little
01:27:43
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)confused yeah I'm not into hookup culture so okay I also am not into hookup C culture but I uh personally think that you know to each their own um
01:27:54
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you know if that's again what makes you happy um but I think kind of um being single for a year and going on dates I wasn't in hookup culture necessarily but
01:28:05
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)I was going on dates with multiple people um it is it can be a little depressing for sure when you say you were going on dates with multiple people
01:28:14
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)what was the in a average week what was uh how many dates were you going on um I wasn't to like date date date it was um
01:28:25
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you know I was on hinge I was on Tinder I would um maybe have a date with one or two people a week sometimes for a few weeks I wouldn't have any dates um but yeah it it would be kind of depressing
01:28:36
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)you could you know go on a date with someone multiple times and then it doesn't work out and then you know um but I do think long I do want something
01:28:45
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)like longterm um because I don't think personally that that is good for me because of the person that I am um so sure yeah what about you Tina um
01:28:57
Dina / Savannah (mixed)long-term commitment kind of feels like prison to me so um I'm just chilling doing what I want to do I'm not a big fan of hookup culture um but obviously I do do it for filming so that kind of
01:29:08
TTS/Chatgives me what I need um but then I'm chilling Nick schmexy donated $200 hey Brian and Charlie will you guys post the stream after I haven't been
01:29:20
Charlie Kirkpaying attention because I'm whacking off to Angel and Sophia welcome to the what ever podcast where we should probably moderate these uh appreciate it Nick I do have a I mean you you all deserve better men than what America's
01:29:32
Charlie Kirkproducing you really do I mean that subcribe you you you you deserve you deserve better men than what what this culture is producing okay uh well Tina coming back to you really quick I mean
01:29:44
Brian Atlasin some of your pre-show notes here that you provided you said for example that you guess you always end up sleeping through friend groups hot take could be that you're all for open non-traditional
01:29:55
Brian Atlasrelationships um you said at what one time you left a guy asleep in your hotel room to go hook up with three other guys um girl boss there's more there I
01:30:06
Brian Atlascan read more um you said you also said commitment to one person is difficult for you um I suppose it's good that you're at least self-aware um do you care to elaborate a
01:30:17
Dina / Savannah (mixed)bit on that um on which part I don't know there was a lot to there the story though yeah I I did once leave a guy in my hotel room he fell asleep he just kept dragging on about how I do only
01:30:29
Dina / Savannah (mixed)fans and you can tell that he was getting turned on by it and I my biggest ick is when guys are like so interested in what I do for work cuz that's my work so when I'm talking to you about it I'm just talking to you like it's my work so if you're like talking to me and you're
01:30:41
Dina / Savannah (mixed)kind of getting excited you're thinking you're going to hook up or something I'm just like I'm so turned off yeah so luckily he fell asleep in my room um I went for a shower cuz I was like if anything's going to happen I may as well shower be fresh anyways I didn't I
01:30:53
Dina / Savannah (mixed)wasn't into him but I was like sometimes you just have to put up with something things um but when I was in the shower he fell asleep and also while I was in the shower I got a text from another guy that was in the hotel there was an event going on and he was like come say
01:31:06
Dina / Savannah (mixed)goodbye to me and I was like okay and I went up and we did our thing and then while we were doing our thing his coach and his manager were like knocking on his door to try to get him to get on his flight cuz he had an early flight and then they just joined in and I I would
01:31:19
Dina / Savannah (mixed)like got a text in from the guy that was asleep in my room and he was just like did you leave and I was like yeah had to go say bye to her friend and then I never heard it from him again but that was good though because he was weird of
01:31:30
Brian AtlasHaram uh okay that's uh that's pretty interesting um we'll we'll come back to that later uh Molly did you have a response to the chat that came in yes
01:31:40
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)okay so um for me I think that uh relationship stability and those little dopamine hookup
01:31:48
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)Hits come together um I kind of utilize both so for me like I have sex for work with people that aren't my boyfriend so
01:32:00
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)like yes it is very chemically draining after you have an orgasm and like obviously you're tired you're depleted of all of those
01:32:09
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)crazy dopamine whatevers and um you get a little sad so after my scenes when I'm driving home the only thing that's like oh like I'm I'm not going to be alone like I'm going to have my boyfriend like we're
01:32:22
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)going to hang out and he's going to love me and like he's going to be so proud of me cuz I did work today and yeah like it all just kind of ties in like if I if I didn't have those little dopamine hits I would feel like I was in prison and I'm
01:32:34
TTS/Chatsure he would feel the same way so it just it all works out oh we have another one coming modest take Hima donated $200 Charlie stole my usual question of
01:32:45
TTS/Chateven we in my Matt Walsh flannel and WTF so uh spawn of Satan how much more traffic do you expect to your of from nips rather than wearing
01:32:56
Brian Atlasclothes all right they're spicy tonight he modest aama thank you appreciate it um about 3% more traffic about 3.5% more traffic is what Molly's expecting um Charlie it sounded like you were about
01:33:09
Charlie Kirkto come in on something do you have something quick on that no just uh look do dopamine is a very serious chemical it if you mismanage it it leads a lot of people to self harm and to depression
01:33:20
Charlie Kirkand so but there there are ways to healthily manage dopamine and it it ways such as fulfilling work purpose relationships a spiritual life uh eating healthing intermittent fasting cold
01:33:32
Charlie Kirkwater exposure um so just be very careful for whatever it's worth not that you're going to listen to what I say because if you start to if you start to over indulge in cheap dopamine hits then you're going to need a bigger and bigger dopamine hit um and then eventually you
01:33:45
Charlie Kirkget to a place where you can't hit that high again and then you crater and you crash and my prayer for all of you is that you don't have to don't have to live through that cuz it's pretty dark I want to bring it back because the trans
01:33:56
Brian Atlastopic came up before and if I can try to relate it to dating here I do want to go around the panel on this do you and I I
01:34:04
Brian Atlasmean this could go both ways but to the panel do you object to a man not wanting to date a transom do you think that would be transphobic if a man did not
01:34:16
Aaronwant to date a transom starting with you we'll go around the panel go ahead I don't I don't think so I don't think it would be trans no and any trans Advocate who says that it is is like a scop there to make trans Advocates look bad I don't
01:34:29
Aaronthink it's transphobic at all it's perfectly fine have genital preferences okay same pixie everyone's allowed to have whatever Preference they want okay I agree yeah I basically agree as well I
01:34:40
Brian Atlasjust think it's preference concur okay all right fair you don't need to know my answer now how about this though to kind of take it to another layer you know dating apps are incredibly popular most
01:34:52
Brian Atlaspeople are meeting online now now is on on dating apps social media what whatever um do you think that uh somebody use trans trans man trans woman
01:35:03
Brian Atlasdo you think they have a duty to disclose for example on the dating app a duty to disclose that they are trans uh and if so at what point should they you know for example should it be on their
01:35:13
Brian Atlasprofile during messaging before a date is scheduled on a first date second date before intimacy after intimacy um any thoughts on that starting with you um personally first off I hate going first
01:35:27
SophiaI get a little nervous sometimes I know it's tough you're in the you're in the hot seat I'm in the hot seat but I don't mind um well personally I feel like they should definitely be intimacy definitely
01:35:39
Sophiaand also maybe even before emot like they start building an emotional connection because if you want somebody to really accept you and love you for who you are
01:35:50
Aaronyou should you know tell be honest and come out with everything mhm any thoughts I think that they should but for that trans person's own safety not necessarily for the benefit of anybody else and as far as I know
01:36:02
Aaronmost trans people already willingly disclose this because it's obviously something that's going to come up very quickly in their dating life so I mean why not both por no l do well can I ask you a question sure do you think people
01:36:15
Brian Atlasshould disclose their race should they disclose their race dating up I'm not totally sure how that's relevant but um when I think isn't there race to some degree
01:36:26
Brian Atlasrace or ethnicity race ethnicity like should a mixed person say that they're half black what I I mean I'm not really understanding the question but um which
01:36:38
Aaronpart well if they should disclose if they're half black no I'm asking if you think that like people should disclose like race ethnicity like if you are half Chinese or if you're half black or
01:36:48
TTS/Chatanything like that no I I mean I this is not a topic I've really given ER Charli's wife donated $200 I love you babe I'm so proud of you
01:37:00
Brian Atlasand so blessed to be your wife great discussion is that actually she she's very busy right now all right well thank you maybe maybe
01:37:10
Brian AtlasErica okay all right um wait what's that is it it's her oh okay hey Erica what's up W's W's in the chat for Erica W's in
01:37:22
Brian Atlasthe chat you haven't given it thought but what's your gut reaction should they disclose well you know I'm wondering I'm thinking I'm not on any dating apps currently but I do think on hinge for
01:37:33
Brian Atlasexample there might be a section to and I'm trying to recall if there is something where you can actually you can actually put your race like if you're Native American if um should should
01:37:45
Aaronsomebody have but should they I don't think so why not why not uh I think it's different though I mean I it's certainly different it is different but I think that kind of hesitation is kind of what you
01:37:58
Aaronarticulate from like or like you're articulating perfectly what trans people feel like is that I know that they will do think I think it's quite different um but what I I would like to allow
01:38:10
Dina / Savannah (mixed)everybody else to answer the question so I forgot the qu what oh if they should like disclosure at what point should it be I think they should only
01:38:20
Brian Atlasfor like I mean obviously the safety of them I think okay well and maybe also for the benefit of the other person although it seems like Aaron you object to you don't think there should be any
01:38:30
Aaronbenefit to the person on the other side I think there will naturally be a benefit to it but I don't think you're entitled to know that information any more than you're entitled to know their race not starting off from the dating
01:38:42
Brian Atlasprofile I think eventually yes sure well if somebody I'm trying to think the same how to tackle that but I I think that can be very readily apparent just by look at their photos or like
01:38:54
Brian Atlassexuality for example CU you can't tell someone's gay or bisexual well there is a on hinge I do believe you can specify if you're straight if you're bisexual is it a red flag if they don't do that to
01:39:05
Brian Atlasyou no not necessarily but I mean even I think on on on your end I think you're and actually I do think on hinge there are these filters and I do think you can include I don't know if it's your skin
01:39:17
Brian Atlascolor your race or whatever I think it is your race or ethnicity uh you can list it and you can also fil by it uh same same with sexuality too there's certainly not something there for your
01:39:29
Brian Atlasactual sex though there's no uh I mean you can put your gender but we know that well that wouldn't necessarily indicate
01:39:40
Dina / Savannah (mixed)that be inclusive of trans people yes so oh did you answer the question kind of okay pixie did you have something yeah I basically was just saying like
01:39:51
Pixie (mixed)for the safety of them I guess yeah okay I was going to say um you should but only if you're like going thinking about this person as like somebody who you're seriously going to date I see it similar to like for example like polit political
01:40:03
Pixie (mixed)orientation or whatever sure um where it's like I this is another reason why like I'm also non big proponent of hookup culture cuz it's like I feel like when people hook up they're not really they're just hooking up there's no um necessarily like set of like morals or
01:40:16
TTS/Chatanything to follow like beforehand very much cuz it's like a very casual encounter people don't feel like they have those duties for each other char wife donated $200 hey Charlie you better not be
01:40:27
TTS/Chatedging to Sophia or Angel right now you've been looking a little too much anyway see you later bab XO kisses do these make you uncomfortable or you just find them funny I think it's hilarious okay good good good cuz I I was I was
01:40:40
Charlie Kirklike oh is okay okay okay cool I got worried too I was like they're spicy I I live on the internet I've seen a lot a lot of things so thanks for being a good sport I
01:40:52
Pixie (mixed)appreciate it go ahead yeah so I'll try to wrap it up basically like if I'm on a dating app and like looking to hook up with someone I would never like what I said before like someone who's a super hardcore Republican I would not want to
01:41:04
Pixie (mixed)sleep with them um but they don't have necessarily an obligation to tell me their political orientation unless if I explicitly asked so that would be kind of on me um but if I'm going to start
01:41:15
Pixie (mixed)dating that person seriously then it's like oh okay like yeah we should talk about our values and be like open and transparent with each other so F take what about you I agree as well yeah with
01:41:26
Dina / Savannah (mixed)who with her with both of them yes okay would like any thoughts on this um yeah I think it should be disclosed for sure if not like in their bio within the
01:41:35
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)first few messages I feel um yeah okay Molly I agree it's definitely something that should be disclosed uh very early on in the relationship um I was going to say put it in your bio but then you
01:41:47
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)mentioned safety and I was like oh that's a really good point so like obviously you can't tell someone m what to tell them about or to tell you about themselves um but if you're dating
01:41:59
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)someone you kind of have like a moral obligation to beon your most yeah be honest be your most authentic self in front of them um and I think it's kind
01:42:07
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)of um deceitful not to tell them I would feel like I my time was wasted if I showed up to a date and they didn't say anything sure and I think probably most
01:42:18
Brian Atlastrans women are they disclose upfront most of them although I haven't when I was back on the dating apps I did encounter someone was actually quite you
01:42:30
Brian Atlasknow on hinge how you can have prompts and answer prompts um someone seemed very uh polit like very political in their answers and uh they I forgot
01:42:41
Brian Atlasexactly what but they were trans and uh they said it's nobody's business to know if they're trans which
01:42:49
Brian AtlasI thought I thought was interesting uh but uh I do think it should be disclosed pretty much as soon as possible when you say encounter it sounds like you're like
01:42:59
AaronPokemon hunting and you found like a rare Pokemon the Wild what about religion you there's also uh there's like you can you can put religion on there do you think that people should
01:43:12
Brian Atlashave to should you have to identify yourself as a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim or atheist no I don't think you should have to but I think it's it's certainly very different um I I would
01:43:22
Brian Atlasimag imagine I think somebody might feel a little bit more Bamboozled if they turn up to a date and this person's actually a
01:43:33
Aaronmale that as compared to someone omitting their religion religious convictions are very personal like Charlie was saying you probably would not date somebody who is not also an Evangelical right but it's a bit more of
01:43:46
Brian Atlasa bamboozle I think like if it's so important to you that you you go a date with somebody who's your same religion I think there is some burden on the person
01:43:58
Brian Atlaswho really cares about that that they should ask and if the person omits it from their profile I do think though um it's a different bamboozle it's a bit of a different bamboozle it's different but
01:44:10
Pixie (mixed)like is it different enough to warn a different social protocol is all I'm asking I I think so I yeah I think so I think the deal breaker should or you communicating the deal breaker should
01:44:21
Brian Atlaslie on yourself BAS if something's a deal breaker for you you have to no trans people in your bio honestly you'd probably I feel like on a lot of these
01:44:30
Brian Atlasdating apps you might get banned if you uh if you were to even even in the most diplomatic polite way if you were to say that I do think you might get reported
01:44:42
Aaronand banned because even on this is grinder so this is like game man or whatever but there were men putting like no Chinese no Asian people that's why I made the comparison between race I don't believe that they banned those but it's a prevalent thing within bios to see
01:44:54
Pixie (mixed)that sometimes on those profiles and yeah but Grinder is a very like hookup app oh totally yeah well I think most of these apps are hookup apps unless but hold on you said you said the Chinese
01:45:05
Aaronthing like when you say Chinese do you mean like are all like specifically Chinese that's what they that's an example of what grinder was seeing in their users that people were saying specifically no Asian no Chinese or like
01:45:19
Aaronno Japanese they were specifying specifically bi ethnicity there's different kinds of as you know there's there's there's Korean there's La no yeah well these racist people to me like
01:45:29
Aarongoing so far as to specify specifically which Asian ethol you can keep going sou Korea so many North Korean well that's why they did asan China say Philippines
01:45:40
TTS/ChatTaiwan I Miss Philippines are you are you uh Filipino I am yes okay oh there we go okay Cam Captain new left tenant donated $200 Sophia it's been over a year since
01:45:53
TTS/Chatwent viral for failing to answer this question can you now name 10 books rest of panel plus Charlie name three books you can't repeat an answer or use a
01:46:04
Brian Atlasseries so you kind of went a little bit viral a little bit bit somebody asked you to somebody name 10 books yes name
01:46:16
Sophia10 books for soop and I wasn't able to name it I still can't name it I'm not a big book fan I don't like read let go let's hear I like I like podcast I like listening and and I like a visual sure
01:46:28
Sophiayou know I'm with you visual way books good night Moon the H little I got some kids books I um there's like Diary of a wimp a kid oh wait okay okay let's here let's do a
01:46:39
Sophiacount okay so that's one oh we're actually doing 10 you s kids five to six something literally the Bible got Bible counts power Art of
01:46:51
SophiaSeduction uh isn't that a book artist eduction Robert Green yep um I'm going to say what I said okay is it valid what I said in the podcast have you guys I don't just just repeat so I
01:47:03
Brian Atlassaid the Game of Thrones series and I'm not going to lie I'm going to air myself out we can only one that only counts as one you can't you can't do this har po Feast for Crows Clash what's the what
01:47:14
Brian Atlasare Fire and Ice yeah A Song of Ice and Fire you can only only one book from like a you know series okay okay that's fair and then I said the Twilight series crows Twilight Twilight okay that's five
01:47:27
Sophiawhat else you went viral for the you should be you should be ready no no no no that's the thing I I had a choice I was like I I was either going to be ready or I was just going to stay true to myself
01:47:37
Brian Atlasokay five books and be honest what else you got you already have four okay um think movies a lot of movies are based on books that's true why you giving her stop giving her layups let her let her
01:47:49
Sophiathing can I okay how about how about let me brainstorm some brainstorm um you can get back to me maybe in like an hour or so or required reading in school how about three more just three more and
01:48:00
Aaronthen we'll we'll move on three more you guys really want three more books while you're brainstorming I'll just say that the average American has not read like more than a book in the last year or so so don't feel too bad that's an
01:48:13
Sophiaindictment of like everyone in this country be fair to be fair a lot of people came up to me saying like I I can't name 10 books on spot either book
01:48:21
Brian Atlasand a lot of viral relatable can you name 10 rap artists oh yeah oh yeah
01:48:28
Sophiaeasily uh lzi uh cardi
01:48:32
Sophialucky man there's so okay
01:48:36
SophiaNikki um Wayne Uh Kanye uh um um God I'm on the spot right now I hate being put on the spot this is why I
01:48:49
Sophiashould stop doing podcast Jay-Z Jay-Z card uh cardi does cardi have beef with right
01:48:58
Brian Atlasnow she's she said um is is that 10 has that been 10 Ben Shapiro he raps now yeah Rap God Ben Shapiro there you go beautiful okay
01:49:10
Aaronmoving on moving on she she made her it was it was a good effort it was a great effort a a a for the the effort here okay I'll take for all right now it's Brian's turn name three 10 countries
01:49:21
Brian Atlasname 10 countries yeah come on you were doing all the Asian ones I just thought you were really ready for this aeran Austria let's maybe B Burma is that
01:49:32
Brian Atlasstill wait is Burma still yeah Burma it's also yeah C Cameroon Cambodia let's go to D Denmark
01:49:42
Brian Atlaslet's go to F Finland let's go to G Germany France Luxembourg lonstein that's my that's my personal favorite the
01:49:54
Brian AtlasNetherlands um The Gambia Russia beautiful is that 10 was that 10 yeah thank you thank you thank you okay
01:50:06
Brian Atlasthat's I wish I could answer that confidently I think his strategy of the like a BC is like I think you know it helps out a little okay all right um wait so we were on the I think we kind
01:50:18
Brian Atlasof finished this books uh going back to politics a little bit here you know going back would you date somebody who's pro
01:50:28
Madisonlife starting with you I know it's Hot Seat but uh oh man why do I always got to
01:50:38
AaronFirst yes into the mic yes yes I would yes because you can be pro-life but and still pro-choice and there's as long as they're pro- life and not anti- Choice that's to me the key distinction wait
01:50:49
AaronI'm a little can you clear I'm a little confused I'm a little confused plenty of Democrats if you pull Democrats like for example like a lot of Catholic Democrats are Joe Biden our own president personally is pro-life so he would not feel comfortable probably having a wife
01:51:03
Aaronthat submitted herself to procure an abortion but is okay with it being legal and I think that's the important distinction not whether or not they personally are so yeah sure I I can agree with
01:51:14
Pixie (mixed)that yeah I think generally um I don't know it depends uh if they're super pro-life to the point where it's like oh the mother's health is at risk and you
01:51:25
Pixie (mixed)still shouldn't abort then I'm like whoa slow down there buddy I don't know how I feel about that okay but without those extremes yeah sure yeah I agree um about
01:51:35
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)the extremes if they are too extreme then um maybe no um but um I would still date someone who's pro-life if they weren't too extreme okay I'm kind of the same I
01:51:47
Dina / Savannah (mixed)don't think it becomes a problem unless I get pregnant unexpectedly and then I don't want the child but I'm sure if it was a good relationship anyways and I got pregnant I would want the child anyways too even though I am pro-choice
01:51:57
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)I don't think it I don't think it gives that much of a conflict um obviously depending on the circumstance but Molly I agree uh you can be pro-choice and pro-life at the same time and that is
01:52:10
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)really the only way that I would be able to be in a relationship because I'm pro-choice but I can also respect that the person that I love is not okay uh Charlie any thoughts here um yeah I'm just curious when would you you guys say
01:52:22
Pixie (mixed)human life begins that's like a philosophical question for the ages when there's a heartbeat when there's a heartbeat or no I guess in see now we have three
01:52:34
Charlie Kirkdifferent answers so I'm just we have a I will presume a group of women because we all you all self-described as women I'm kidding um when does Life Begin
01:52:45
Dina / Savannah (mixed)heartbeat I still stay at Birth even though I know that your cells can be form in a brain and stuff in the uterus um but yeah I think you're not fully a
01:52:54
Aaronhuman until you're born okay and you said heartbeat right okay I think it's very difficult to answer I think mostly Consciousness and personhood is really what people are seeking to identify and I believe how would you have I'm sure
01:53:07
Charlie Kirkyou Happ to know how long is like how many weeks was a full term of pregnancy uh it's it's a good question I know very well uh it's uh it's it's about 38 39 weeks 40 is like at the furthest of justest so as far as I know like around
01:53:19
Charlie Kirk30 weeks is when you see like typically like most developed of the fetus has taken place so I would say way earlier than that but yeah no I mean so heartbeat is right around 6 weeks brain waves are even before that um and you
01:53:31
Charlie Kirkcould do an ultrasound at right around you could start do ultrasounds at 8 weeks and you could see the full full being uh right around 12 weeks and right around 25 26 weeks are now the earliest cases we have of babies that are able to
01:53:44
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)survive outside of the womb does anyone have any other answers on that of when well I mean um I'm not like educated scientifically enough about the
01:53:54
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)biology of all of it but I agree I think that um life is a very subjective term you know you could say uh when does the infant's body in the womb start
01:54:05
Molly Little / Angel (mixed)functioning or you could say when do they start perceiving their Consciousness um and for me it's when they start perceiving
01:54:16
Charlie Kirktheir Consciousness but truly I have no idea when that is do you think it's do you think it would be important to let me ask you this if if you knew for certain the baby would you agree it's a
01:54:26
Charlie Kirkbaby is that a good term to use if it's in a womb is that a baby I think most people would say fetus fetus yeah okay so what does fetus mean in Latin I think a fetus is a growing child
01:54:38
Charlie Kirkit's a develop you're right mly you know it means a little human yeah um it's just using fetus is nothing more than a cope for what you know it is it's a baby right so it's just obviously not if we're here debating it I don't think it's as s you don't have to use the word
01:54:51
Pixie (mixed)fetus just makes people feel better obviously a baby no I mean obviously you wouldn't take like you know a fetus that just has like a heart and like their brain isn't fully formed and be like that's the same as like a one-month-old like we obviously see differences