She Is "Single" But STILL Hooks Up With Her TOXIC Ex?! | Dating Talk #96

Date: 2023-09-04
Duration: 4h 40m

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Elizabeth(guest)
SPEAKER_04Amber(guest)
SPEAKER_05Ali Boba(guest)
SPEAKER_06Madison(guest)
SPEAKER_07Morgan(guest)
SPEAKER_08Dr Sydney Watson(host)
SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

Key Moments

00:27:27
RelationshipElizabeth reveals she considers herself in a committed relationship with a German TikToker (~12M followers) she has never met in person or spoken to by phone after 2 months of communicating only via Instagram stories.

I call it that because trust... we're both so busy

00:42:18
ControversyAmber reveals her toxic ex-boyfriend (33yo) drove her to the show and she has been hanging out with him twice a week despite claiming to be 'single' for 2 months.

he drove me here... twice a week

00:56:00
Key MomentAli reveals her ex-boyfriend from her 3-year relationship (age 18-21) turned out to be gay/bisexual.

he actually ended up being gay

01:03:59
QuoteBrian asks Amber what she did wrong in the relationship; she says she was too clingy and gave the 33yo ex rent-free housing for 3 months at age 21 while he saved for a car.

I told him to live with me for three months rent free

01:06:53
OtherViewer poll: 66% voted that Amber will get back together with her toxic ex (804 total votes).

yes 66... 34 no

02:03:00
Key MomentAli describes discovering male sex toys (butt plug, male lingerie) in ex's drawer and then hacking his Snapchat to find photos of other men, confirming his homosexuality.

I saw a bunch of sex toys... a butt plug in there... male lingerie

02:14:00
Key MomentMadison shares that her father appeared on a prior Whatever podcast episode and they are no longer on speaking terms after the episode aired.

after the show went out we didn't really appreciate kind of the things that each of us shared so we're not really on talking terms anymore

03:41:29
QuoteAli states her traditional values: once she becomes a wife, her husband is her leader, she will wake at 4am to make him breakfast, handle all household/childcare duties.

as soon as I become a wife I am my husband is my leader... if he's getting up in the morning to go to work I'm getting up at 4am to make sure he has a hot breakfast

Topics Discussed

00:00:06
Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Brian introduces guests. Ali: single by choice, LA streamer. Elizabeth: single 24 years, messaging online-only German TikToker 'boyfriend'. Amber: 'single' 2 months, still seeing toxic ex. Morgan: purposefully single, focusing on God. Madison: in 1-year relationship with Frankie.

00:20:00
Therapy, mental health, religion vs. therapy

Amber goes to therapy; finds it helpful for addressing toxic relationship patterns linked to father's alcoholism. Morgan is anti-therapy; prefers biblical counsel. Group debates whether therapy prescribes too many medications and what generational mental health decline looks like.

00:27:30
Elizabeth's online-only 'relationship' with German TikToker

Elizabeth considers herself in a relationship with a ~12M-follower German TikToker she has never met, spoken to by phone, or FaceTimed. Communicated only via Instagram stories for 2 months. Brian is skeptical the TikToker is loyal; Elizabeth won't accept the suggestion.

00:40:00
Amber's toxic on-and-off relationship

Amber (22) has been 'single' 2 months but hangs out with her 33yo toxic ex twice a week. Ex moved in rent-free, broke her phone, threw makeup out window, used verbal abuse. Ex drove her to the show. Brian and panel discuss trauma bonding, addiction metaphor, and why she won't cut contact. Poll: 66% of chat thinks she gets back with him.

00:56:00
Ali's 3-year relationship with gay/bisexual ex

Ali dated a man age 18-21 who turned out to be gay/bisexual. Discovered male sex toys (butt plug, male lingerie). Confirmed by hacking his Snapchat while he was at work — found photos of other men. He came out after they broke up. She was blindsided but grateful for the lesson.

01:41:00
Penis size and sexual compatibility

Amber raises question of penis size mattering in marriage if saving yourself. Morgan argues intimacy can be learned together. Brian says body count and experience can be parallel — both can require learning. Group mostly agrees size is secondary to emotional connection.

01:46:40
Age gaps in dating

Discussion on acceptable age gaps. Madison: up to 5 years older. Morgan: up to 4 years older (28 max). Elizabeth: prefers within 5 years. Ali: prefers slightly older once emotionally ready to settle. Brian jokes about passport bros and dating younger women.

02:13:20
Hookup culture, waiting to have sex, body count

Morgan argues women should hold out as long as possible; saving yourself for marriage is ideal. Madison: hooked up with Frankie the first time they hung out alone. Ali: requires mutual exclusivity before sex; never had a one-night stand; body count 6. Elizabeth: virgin. Amber: waited 4th-5th date. Brian: prefers continuity over one-night stands but ok with ~3rd date.

03:40:00
Traditional values and marriage

Ali describes traditional values: husband as head of household, wife manages home/children, wakes at 4am to make breakfast. Morgan agrees: dating intentionally for marriage, engaged in 1-1.5 years. Brian jokes about becoming a monk (celibate). Discussion on sex within marriage and sexual compatibility.

04:13:36
Self-ratings round

Ali: 10/10 ('Latina Queen'). Elizabeth: 7/10. Brian: 8/10. Dr Sydney Watson: 10/10. Amber and Morgan declined to give number on air.

04:16:00
Immigration debate

Brief end-of-show discussion on illegal immigration. Morgan (part Filipino) says come legally. Ali shares grandmother's story — forced into a brothel at 8 years old, immigrated to escape. Brian jokes about dating illegal immigrants for citizenship. Tabled for a future episode.

04:27:30
Male friends and female friend groups

Brian argues most male 'friends' of women want to sleep with them. Amber has male friend Dylan who was watching the show. Morgan says boundaries are key in mixed friendships. Elizabeth: grew up with older brothers, easier to friend-zone men.

04:35:30
Body count reveal

Ali: 6. Elizabeth: 0 (virgin). Amber: 3. Morgan: declined to share. Madison: implied low. Sydney Watson (co-host) drew laughs with a high implied count. Brian: did not share.

Transcript

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03:55:02
Madisonwould always sign me up for roles to where I was very uncomfortable with they wouldn't even get your consent to those roles
03:55:13
ElizabethI don't know I felt like I trusted my teacher too much when I shouldn't have like I should have at that time I was 20 you know like a little younger so it was more like let me listen to the to
03:55:25
Brian Atlasthe fact she was taking advantage right did you have any friends also participate in this class or anything yes for for they all know what they're doing
03:55:36
Brian Atlaslike they all knew what because I was like trying to remember it I was trying to Google it and see if like people had like mentioned it I couldn't find anything I had a group I had a group of like five girls all together you mean everyone no like every time we go in
03:55:49
Elizabeththere's that group of five girls and I'm one in there like that that's great yeah they all knew who we were did your teacher wait was your teacher male or female
03:56:00
Brian Atlasuh both well there was both those male and female that is weird that's just weird uh we have some more notes Here we have uh
03:56:12
Brian Atlaslet's see wait okay Elizabeth last thing for you oh what is it uh actually yeah next person right uh Ali
03:56:22
Brian Atlasyou oh wait no sorry Amber excuse me Ali's right I'm offended Ally hold on I'm getting the notes Here uh
03:56:33
Brian Atlasuh amber excuse me so so why can't men be straight up of what type of relationship they have is emotional cheating worse than physical cheating
03:56:45
Brian Atlasum you said this generation of men ain't okay they want the princess treatment and they want to be chased so there's a couple things this
03:56:58
Brian Atlasgeneration man ain't okay princess treatment they want to be chased wait question what do you generally speaking and we'll go around the table on this what do you think of men depends on the generation I feel like there's a lot of like my generation like
03:57:11
Amberin their 20s I feel like it's just like princess era like I want to get chased you know that's what I've seen you know maybe because I'm in LA but in general like like I said on the first
03:57:22
Amberquestion many you know because that's what I've seen like they just don't want to like back to the traditional thing I don't think they want to do that you know like they just want to I don't know maybe
03:57:34
Amberthey're not ready yet in this in their 20s they're not ready I've just seen a lot of things in like La you know I've seen a lot of things of like commitment issues emotionally
03:57:45
Amberunavailable and I'm like that's not who I will that's not what I want you know some people do and I I feel like men just just be straight up with women like hey you know what I just want to mess around
03:57:56
AmberI don't want a commitment be straightforward you know and that's okay because there's so many women out there that will accept because they don't want that either you know they don't want to emotionally get attached to you and and that's fine you know there's be straightforward if you actually want a
03:58:10
Amberrelationship because then what if the woman doesn't you know like be straight up guys like communication yeah like be straight up what's wrong with that I don't understand why it's so wrong to say you know what I just want to have
03:58:22
Brian Atlassex with you and that's it I don't want to have a full-on relationship with you would you if a guy ever said to you I just want to have sex with you and that's it would you have sex with him no
03:58:33
Amberbecause well that's not me I don't think men should lie but I understand but it's like there's other women that will though like homie like there's so many women that will no they
03:58:45
Brian Atlasthere is no well there are women that will but no like there's some degree of like most women if you I mean we've done a video experiment on this you cannot just
03:58:56
Amberwalk up to a girl and say hey do you want to like it's not no not in that way just be like hey you know what like I don't want to be a boyfriend right now like I just want things to there are girls that are down for like
03:59:09
Brian AtlasFriends with Benefits though yeah yeah there are there are but I'm not saying I'm not recommending men should lie but like you wish
03:59:21
Brian AtlasI don't think that's hard to ask I think the thing is though is that you're not saying when you say I wish men were more upfront you're not saying
03:59:32
Brian Atlasbecause I would accept whatever they are proposing you're saying I wish men could be more upfront so I wouldn't so I could have the reserve of the option and have
03:59:43
Morganmore knowledge about their motives so I cannot date them well so you're not wasting your time so if he doesn't want a relationship and you want a relationship and you know he just wants to hook up then you know you want to know it right but I'm just trying to I'm
03:59:55
Brian Atlastrying to explain like it from not my point of view but men who are maneuvering to try to sleep with you that's true you might who might not want to be in a relationship with you like there is again I'm not saying it's a
04:00:07
Brian Atlasgood thing I'm not advocating for it but I'm just don't shoot the messenger there's a certain degree of gamesmanship that men are going to undertake like I love you babe like they're gonna you
04:00:18
Brian Atlasknow obviously not upfront with that sort of but they're gonna they're gonna play you yeah of course like a lot of
04:00:28
Brian Atlasguys will say what you want to hear to get you in bed playing the game I don't think they're always like that or most of them that was like a majority of the men that I've experienced because
04:00:38
Brian AtlasI I also think that there's some component of I think some women want plausible deniability they don't want they don't want to be like yeah I'm just
04:00:48
Brian Atlasdown to like they want to frame it because in case that in the event that maybe it starts casual but then it leads to something serious they want the
04:00:59
Brian Atlasplausible deniability to say even though I was initially just looking for casual sex I actually like you and I started liking you I don't want you to think I'm a type of thing you know I mean it's all
04:01:11
Brian Atlasabout like a people's opinion like they what they want and like the person you know everybody's different you know couldn't couldn't it be the case that there's a cohort of women that are also
04:01:23
Brian Atlasdown for like Friends with Benefits let me just finish isn't there could it be the case that there's a cohort of women that would be down for one night stands or casual sex or friends with
04:01:36
Amberbenefits but they are going to play like they want a relationship liberals um I don't you know what I haven't seen
04:01:48
Amberthat I haven't seen that to be honest like I haven't seen women do that like I'm in LA and I I haven't seen like women really like oh my God that like let's have a relationship you know and
04:01:58
Amberthen oh my gosh I put you know I messed you know like I had sex with this guy and then I'm gonna go you know I think they don't do that they're like I feel like girls are more upfront to
04:02:10
Morganmen and being like I don't want anything serious fair but I mean I said liberals but it's like kind of true like look at the look at the feminist movement look at Women's marches my body I can do whatever I want sexual Revolution I can sleep with whoever with as many men as I
04:02:24
Morganwant to and like this is actually empowering when it's actually quite the opposite it's anti-empowering for a woman to do that and like I think a large part of the feminist movement has prayed into men which is why you know
04:02:36
Morganyou said men ain't crap now well do you not think like women are kinded to blame for that because women have been saying like I can do it myself that meant like feminist mentality where then men are like all right then you know you pay for
04:02:49
Morganthe first date like I'm not going to be that masculine man because the whole feminist movement is telling me toxic masculinity and embracing my own masculinity is toxic but it's really the opposite we should be encouraging men to be a masculine man be the provider when
04:03:03
Morganthat's really what women want because even the feminist liberal they still want to settle down eventually and they're still going to have a kid but then it's a problem when the man wants to provide for the household like no I can do it myself but then are they really being a mother and a wife no so
04:03:15
Morganit's like this whole contradiction I think between if you look at first wave feminism to now it's like a funny thing first way feminists did not fight for your right to be a hoe they fought for your right to vote like they just they didn't because now it's been completely
04:03:27
Amberdistorted decades later or really centuries later of okay women can sleep around and that's all of a sudden women's empowerment but it's not yeah yep I mean it just goes a free will you can do whatever you want to be honest like it's
04:03:40
Morganfree will like yeah there's consequence to your actions but I could still do it you know like it's pretty sure like a girl a woman could sleep with whoever she wants a guy could sleep with whoever she wants but I mean a girl being a guys
04:03:52
Morganare up front but they're always going to naturally instinctually want a relationship and be with a woman where a girl holds that power and I feel like women nowadays more it's the feminist side that are like I can sleep around with whoever I want with no consequences
04:04:05
Morganand I mean that's same thing with abortion how that comes into play too it's like well I can sleep with whoever I want I don't want any consequences let's get on birth control let's have abortions and I can continue to be empowered who here's on birth control
04:04:25
Ali Bobaum I'm actually on hormones um right now um it pills and hormones okay yeah I have the implant
04:04:35
Morganyeah I had the IUD for six years and got off of it three months ago but this is really wild sorry chat I didn't have a period for six years of my life and like that's not normal and I feel like a huge
04:04:47
Morganpart of the birth control movement with feminism and like you know take control of your body is actually harming women more I mean it's all it's already statistically like women are attracted to different men when you're on birth control versus off birth control it
04:04:59
Morgancompletely rewires your hormones and it's like we've bought into this lie that this is empowerment when really you're harming yourself yeah I still like it though like what my
04:05:10
Morganbirth control I love that like he's like a sniper I love him who's a sniper my birth control she's like a sniper because you can't get pregnant sure yeah I mean it prevents
04:05:20
Morganpregnancy but you could have lifelong holy that was really bad I mean sure I mean it was invented to prevent birth but the thing is when you get on it you don't actually know
04:05:32
Morganwhat the side effects are to you and your attraction you also don't recycle like realize the side effects that it has on you until you get off of it yeah that's true I mean I did get off of it for like couple months and nothing
04:05:43
Amberchanged I was like I still feel depressed
04:05:51
Madisonoh you're still on it correct yeah okay but I went off it and then I went back to get it again I think you have to be off of it for like a consecutive period of time yeah like a year I've only been off everything for three months I've been on it for 10 years
04:06:02
Ali BobaI was on it wow seven years yeah but I like I said I had I they medically found cancer cells in me when I was younger oh so I had yeah I had to but we're here and I will say that there are certain beers surviving there are
04:06:15
Brian Atlascertain medical conditions birth control estrogen like supplements is necessary it stands up and we're gonna work harder I'm a Survivor okay sorry guys
04:06:27
Morganum thank you you know like widely yeah it's birth control has been sold as this one size fits all take this pill you're cured 14 year olds are going to their gynecologist and saying like oh I just
04:06:39
Morgangot my period here's birth control when I got off my birth control my OB was like are you sure like totally gaslit me and telling me like I'm so not validated she's like you're waiting for marriage like that's wild like are you sure you want your period like this is really
04:06:52
Morganweird um and I just think like women have largely just been sold like this is your one size fits all slap on a Band-Aid everyone needs to go on birth control there's different types of birth control like they can actually regulate um some of the ones that they put they put less
04:07:05
Brian Atlashormones or more hormones than you like what do you need to regulate well there's non-hormone non-hormonal like IUD just yeah like that's one they put in you right
04:07:14
Morganand yeah I was on an IED not the copper I had the Marina the hormonal IUD can you buy birth control like over the counter oh that's yeah I think there's actually a video yeah I did a video on this so there's this new birth control
04:07:27
Morganit's hormonal birth control it's called the O pill and it's the first ever over-the-counter or over-the-counter pill birth control so it's just like you know if you were to get a pack of birth control pills prescribed but the thing is it's now it's over the counter you
04:07:40
Morgandon't need a prescription and you can just buy it at a drugstore it's even going to be available in some gas stations and here's my thing is that is so dangerous because think of how many 13 or 14 year old girls who may want to be sexually active but they don't tell their parents and so all of a sudden
04:07:54
Morganthey don't go to the doctor's office they just pop into a Walgreens and buy this think of the girls that are going to abuse it and overtake medications and I think it's just highly unregulated and like not allowed but it's being pushed
04:08:05
Morganbecause like this is accessible for underserved communities but I mean it's been proven that underserved communities and um you know poor areas that's where Planned Parenthood started it's because you know they want you on birth control and they want you to have more and more
04:08:18
Morganabortions so you don't actually get pregnant and it's the younger you are the younger you start it I mean there's girls literally getting on birth control now at 11 12 13. I mean I would rather be in birth control than like have a child Loki
04:08:29
Brian Atlasis your toxic ex-boyfriend just blasting is that what you're saying no but I'm just saying like even be honest even if he doesn't what happened yesterday oh my gosh that what I'm just saying
04:08:42
Amberyou're you said you don't want to have a kid you're on birth control I'm just assuming yeah I mean later on yes but not right now like I'm blasting um what does that mean like I'm not
04:08:51
Ambergonna say it but connect to the dots no no I like be protected like as much as I can you know like you never know like stay safe guys stay safe well sure you're like actually if you're sexually
04:09:03
Amberactive yeah if you're not I mean my parents never educated me and like in like saves like what sex was and like birth control and stuff she they never did and I wish they did so I could actually go with them you know to like
04:09:16
Amberactually get something you know together or something like that I had to like ask my friends you know like I had to like find out about sex in the playground on like Elementary School like it was crazy to me I think natural cycles
04:09:28
Morganum that's wild that's wild yeah and playground like I don't like that you know like I think what's crazy is that women don't actually know that you can only get monkey bars you guys
04:09:40
Madisonwere talking about that that was like this grass area because I was like oh the grass the meadow they eventually educate you about it in like middle or high school it's great yeah eighth grade
04:09:51
MadisonI got it in like but it's it wasn't like oh my God it's like the depth of like I got educated about Oh I thought well now it's starting like freaking but I went to private school so they teach you sex
04:10:02
Brian Atlased differently actually yeah but I mean public school sex that is like just is it when a man and a woman they love each other very much yeah they like emphasize like make sure you're married make sure
04:10:12
Morganand they just they they hug each other and they hold it and when they love each other so much a baby comes out and then nine months later the store comes the historic dork oh my gosh here's the thing about birth control though is
04:10:25
Morganwomen can only get pregnant three to five days out of the entire month so why are we medicating ourselves yeah for 365 days a year year when we can really only get pregnant three to five days so if you just track your cycle properly it
04:10:38
Brian Atlasdon't have sex those days I agree of course I'm being safe I pull out of course um so that I agree with you I actually think like five five days out of the
04:10:50
Morganmonth yeah that's when you wear the condom no what huh you just don't do it those five days you've got 25 other days in the month oh
04:11:03
Amberoral sex is what your time my cousin did that she didn't use bookish at all this thing where it tells you when you're fertile yeah and she it's a it's like a whole thing like it's like this thing where did it have
04:11:15
Brian Atlasthe temperature gauge or something because if you check your temperature there's a whole thing about body regulations called natural cycle she did that and that's how she got pregnant yeah that's also how you get pregnant there's also this thing like the year like if you're a Taurus if it's the
04:11:27
Brian Atlasmonth of April you actually can't get pregnant
04:11:39
Brian Atlasit's true and applies to every month so if you're Aries whatever the that is you're good to go you don't need okay I don't
04:11:51
Brian Atlaswhat I'm joking that's a bad joke um okay uh we have to wrap up here in about 10-ish 10 minutes or so uh so I think we're caught up on chats Nick can you
04:12:02
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04:12:13
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04:12:24
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04:12:49
Brian Atlasyou for the oh six months tier one hey thank you so much man appreciate it thank you for all the follows guys thank you guys appreciate it uh okay so final thoughts here before we wrap up is there anything before we wrap up that you just
04:13:02
Brian Atlasreally want to get off your chest maybe men are pissing you off in some way we didn't even get to body count oh should we should we talk about definition is it a tradition it's a tradition if you like
04:13:12
Brian Atlasit is like the whatever tradition yeah I've seen it on every video and not rating yourself that's the tradition yeah we'll do it
04:13:24
Ali Bobawe'll do it Stifler ask everyone to rate their looks on a schedule all right who knows he knows uh you start honestly so subjective it could be different
04:13:36
Ali BobaI think I'm a Latina Queen so I'm gonna give myself a 10 out of 10. oh [Music] okay you're a Latina Queen yeah
04:13:48
Ali Bobaare there different kinds of Latinas like you have Spanish versus Puerto Ricans you have Mexicans but we're all the same we're all unified at the end of the day yeah
04:13:59
Ali Bobathere's a uni unified front yeah there's a private group I just think being like I mean it's like you know it's Latino Heritage right the what it's Latino heritage month is it this month yeah yeah I thought it was another month this
04:14:12
Brian Atlasmonth too I thought it was black business owners month I saw that show on Amazon wow black owned business make sure pride month was in June but you know it now is
04:14:22
Brian Atlasevery month apparently um wait okay so
04:14:29
Ali Bobayou're a Latina Queen so you're a 10 out of 10 because you're Latina queen or just for other reasons um I mean inside and out I'd say I'm a good person I take care of myself I work
04:14:41
Ali Bobaout five days a week I love that what do you think about Dad Bots I love Dad bods actually I really I always say if you don't have a bansa you
04:14:49
Ali Bobadon't have a chance to oh yeah all right interesting uh Elizabeth what about you uh a solid seven out of ten okay all
04:15:01
Brian Atlasright I'll do it eight out of ten okay I think the last time I said wait wait wait please do not interrupt Sydney Watson doctors excuse me I'm sorry doctor I've
04:15:11
Elizabethinterrupted her Dr Sydney Watson she just like is so shy she is really shy today she's okay she's Australian huh a 10 out of 10.
04:15:21
Brian Atlashonestly she talked some about my podcast recently so I'm gonna give her a big zero out of ten she talked about you know what Sydney Sydney listen I'll
04:15:33
Brian AtlasI know you we have our differences Sydney Watson Dr Sydney Watson but I wish I want to extend out an olive branch I think you're in are you in La I don't know
04:15:46
Brian Atlasyou don't have to come on the show I will allow you to take me on the first date you can pay for it I like Mexican food I could I could have just paused at Mexican I would have loved it
04:15:57
Brian Atlasyou can go to my baby ears women I can go to heavy airs let's go uh um you're gonna have to pay um but I think it would be productive I you know
04:16:10
Brian Atlasum you know think about it Sydney Watson just saying is she Australian like Mexican or is Sheila she's a Mexican Australian come to think of it that's pretty good never heard of that
04:16:20
Brian Atlasyeah it's a they're uh it's getting hard to cross the border in the U.S so it is from Australians yeah yeah she she took a
04:16:32
Brian Atlassomehow a raft over to Australia I don't know how that must that was crazy that's crazy am I gonna get canceled for saying this is I don't know I don't know how that works
04:16:41
Brian AtlasI as there's Mexican Australians close the board in Spanish I feel like this wait speaking of this anybody oh God Morgan would you oh my
04:16:53
Morgangod oh no no you can say it is on your mind never mind are you gonna say an immigrant
04:17:04
Ali Bobawhat I mean I said close the border that's why I said immigrant what do you girls think of that no no she wants to close the border what do you guys think of that I mean that's a whole other podcast topic dude we have 10 minutes
04:17:16
Brian Atlasleft yeah that is welcome to the whatever politics podcast yeah um no wait what I did a what an illegal immigrant
04:17:26
Morganit's kind of actively illegal yeah no I wouldn't fun fact my mom's actually an immigrant she immigrated from the Philippines when she was five well your mom's Filipino really yeah I'm Asian oh
04:17:38
MorganI didn't know that what if they're in fact what no like I am not joking I am 30 Asian wait so she's happy my mom is a little bit more than a half it just works out so what seventy
04:17:50
Morganpercent are you well you took like other than that I'm like British Scottish um like very European wow sort of my grandma is full like my mom was born in Manila and like immigrated to the states that's my fun
04:18:02
Morganfact yeah my dad would I date an illegal immigration no like come to the United States properly give me your forearm no I am like very white me too Filipina are you sure no I I am so serious if you
04:18:15
Morganlook I believe I'll show you a photo of my mom Brian after and like she's she's like a more light skin I think you're this is like cultural appropriation are you assuming my like ethnicity
04:18:27
Morganethnicity right now like that's kind of racist like just call me white like I am a first generation like literally American after my mom you're claiming Filipina Filipino I'll pull up my
04:18:37
Amberancestry.com I'm messing with you well you took a 23andMe or whatever no ancestry oh ancestors I want to do 23andMe
04:18:47
Morganbut anyways illegal immigrant no what if you what if it was like a from what about DACA the Netherlands like an illegal immigrant from the Netherlands no like if you want to come to the
04:18:59
MorganUnited States come legally do it the right way get the papers I know it takes time and I Know It Takes effort but like I know people that it took decades half my Filipino family that are like my Filipino side of my family are all
04:19:10
Brian Atlasimmigrants I would date an illegal immigrant me too to get married to get oh citizenship hello but obviously she would love me for me right obviously right that's why she has no ulterior
04:19:21
Brian Atlasmotives obviously no green card no citizenship hey love is love okay love is love is it l
04:19:32
Ali Bobawait love is love but I mean sometimes I want a green card I am okay I dated a guy that wasn't but my family isn't
04:19:44
Brian AtlasI would date your family I'm what no I'm serious wait you would give them the papers he loves Mexicans what
04:20:00
Brian Atlasum okay uh any final thoughts wait are you upset no okay no I thought it seemed like you're upset
04:20:09
Ali Bobabut no no I wish we could have talked about this we have more time oh yeah I would love to come back and talk about I would love to immigration yeah another time
04:20:23
Morganyeah that was definitely Morgan yeah Morgan Why You Gotta Throw me under the bus I'm sorry with my fiancee she took account please don't be intensive I take full accountability for that because you
04:20:35
Ali BobaI don't remember what you said but then I just said close the border so and then it just how do you feel about that I mean I have I have like here's the thing like my grandma literally had to come here
04:20:46
Ali Bobabecause she was getting she was forced to work in a brothel at eight years old from 15. so it's like I understand that but when you have no life and that's your life and you have nothing and you
04:20:58
Ali Bobawill take you will fight you will walk Barefoot through the night of like the the terrible terrain just don't look at me while look at Morgan oh I know look at Morgan okay
04:21:32
Brian Atlasit's just pull it out wait Nick can you pull up the photo that we showed last time you know which one I'm talking about yeah topical let's pull that up we're gonna react to it really quick um next time we should write people's
04:21:45
Brian AtlasInstagrams like we should are you coming back do you want me back you down to have you back I feel like I interrogated you quite a bit though so I don't know I mean I love q and A's oh it's cool I want a three week update yeah I went yeah no I need
04:22:00
Brian Atlas[Music] oh yeah we need to know what the situation is oh yes right oh yeah what if it was like false the whole time a legend you've just been lying about
04:22:12
Amberthat's wonderful well don't you have to say allegedly to everything that you do because then you can like in a lawsuit and stuff like that I don't think your boyfriend's gonna no allegedly throw
04:22:22
Brian Atlaslet's file a lawsuit because you said he allegedly that's gonna be enough he's probably why he's for sure watching this it's gonna be an awkward as my friend is watching Dylan
04:22:32
Amberyou have a male friend well yeah it's not allowed huh Kevin male best friend Haram Haram Haram Haram wait what
04:22:44
Brian Atlaswhat oh he's watching me he said he's gonna put in this big TV too uh Nick do you have the photo
04:23:07
Brian Atlasright click on the photo and do open an image and new tab his control tab over I am um yeah um you know like if you saw the camera he
04:23:18
Brian Atlascould have just okay so question for all the girls here would you date Donald Trump no I'm excuse my language no okay I mean not because like anything like I
04:23:29
Amberjust Ally I just sorry wait Amber I'm sorry okay you know what I'm Ally it's okay it's okay you know I'm Ali she's Amber you know the question if you were in bed
04:23:41
Brian Atlaswith a guy and during the ACT he called you another girl's name is it over over oh definitely it's over oh my gosh yeah
04:23:51
Brian Atlaswhat if it was like you had kind of similar names okay question question what if it was like like your name's Ali right and you're in
04:24:03
Brian Atlasbed with Guy and it's going it's going good it's going good yeah and he's like ah Gertrude Gertrude is it a grandma no is that would
04:24:15
Ali Bobathat be that's a no I'd be like I would literally stopping like who is Gertrude not a not a good look no have you done that have you done that
04:24:24
Brian Atlasyeah I I haven't said Gertrude but I did say okay I said uh I said no Patricia
04:24:33
Brian AtlasPatricia's kind of old uh like Barbara Barbara actually I knew I knew a young Barbara um Hillary Hillary what's it what's like
04:24:44
Brian Atlasan old yo chat chat chat chat chat what's an old lady Gretchen oh yeah I knew a young Gretchen knew a young Gretchen chat what's up
04:24:57
Brian AtlasI feel like that's too European though yeah that's a very European Union guys give me give me uh guys give me like an old lady name that would be ridiculous oh my God imagine oh my gosh Mildred
04:25:12
Morganreverse like if you're if you're with a girl and she's like oh Bartholomew was like an old like like English that's a that's a good name I knew of Bartholomew and who went by dude can you
04:25:24
Brian Atlasreally talk dirty if the dude's name is Bartholomew I know oh God no I know an Aristotle oh Bartholomew that's very like yeah what about like uh Meredith Lucille Deborah Martha Helga Agnes
04:25:38
MadisonMabel Mabel you look great Matilda
04:25:45
MadisonDorothy Maxine Blanche Estelle somebody said your name not Esther's biblical Mabel
04:26:01
Brian Atlas[Laughter] Dolores is coming back what was that show on HBO
04:26:13
Brian Atlasuh what was that show um Westworld one of the main characters was called Dolores um okay um wait while we were talking about we were would you date Donald Trump oh yeah would you date
04:26:26
MorganDonald Trump yeah no I don't think he's my type um I've been to Mar-A-Lago I love the Trump family voted for him twice we'll do it again and no I couldn't do it what about one of his sons are any of them
04:26:38
Morgansingle oh that's six five I mean his like his youngest son
04:26:45
Morganhe's like the older guys Eric's married to Laura Dawn Juniors engaged or married to Kimberly okay uh wow you're keeping yeah Warren's a bit too young for you Baron's young okay
04:27:01
Morganno Marla is a great place Trump family is they're great uh but what not okay all right Madison would you date no no no no
04:27:11
MorganI don't like I don't like dating older older older yeah I already said my cutoff is like oh 29 yeah what's your cut off 35 that's fine no it's fine okay
04:27:27
Amberany final thoughts anybody I love you guys thank you so much love you said a lot today yeah yeah and this was um I liked it was a good show gotta promote
04:27:38
Ali Bobainteresting it was a small group but it was really like we had some good points of views like it was really nice make Madison great again yeah good that's why I said interesting
04:27:49
Ali Bobaoh we could really quick uh you said this generation of men ain't uh do you guys agree with that no no I think it's just generalized yeah yeah okay I still have hope for you guys
04:28:01
Madisonmen just need to have masculinity guys 30 weight what I don't back down don't worry I'm not backing down I feel like the same girls will go through one bad experience with like two guys and be
04:28:13
Brian Atlaslike men and but I've had that's super true that is very very they have like two like that's two guys out of boys like they pick the wrong dudes they're like oh all guys are dicks it's like okay I think my best
04:28:26
Ali Bobaadvice is like especially you because you're still like you know your young 20s like date yeah as much people different types as you can you don't have to necessarily sleep with them but like you know just get to see what you like and stuff because you know I'm so tired of it going on date wrong just be
04:28:39
Amberfriends with guys with the guys I love I always tell people like you should be friends with someone first and then see if they yeah
04:28:48
Brian AtlasI'm being a hypocrite erroneous erroneous disavowed I don't think you should be friends with somebody first why not yeah you said you had a male friend
04:28:59
Brian Atlasdidn't you yeah why shouldn't that that makes me question every single male friend you have if you should start as friends and then it should lead into a romantic relationship I think hold on
04:29:10
Brian AtlasI think romantic relationships ought to start from the jump romantically now of course look if you're if you have a friend and it develops
04:29:21
Morganthat's okay too but I don't I'm not I certainly don't think it's wrong to like from the moment you meet somebody for it to have like romantic undertones I think that's super normal that's fine but I think you can develop
04:29:34
Morganfeelings like if you're like friends in class first and then like it yeah you can you can but this idea that oh let's start as friends oh no if
04:30:00
Brian AtlasI mean it's like a friend zone you don't want to be friend zoned like if you're up if you're being upfront with your romantic interests and she's like uh let's start as friends that's like
04:30:10
Brian Atlasgoodbye like that's that's your friend zone at that point yeah like you're not that you're not that into me yeah what do you think if you're in a relationship you
04:30:20
Brian Atlasshould have no male friends I for I for a gal I do think it's a bit of a red flag if a girl has a lot of male
04:30:30
Brian Atlasfriends that's true like a few male friends yeah hmm what if it's like a child here's the thing are the I think women can
04:30:41
Brian Atlasgenuinely have friendships with men it's not clear to me if men can genuinely have friendships because women can because you know if a girl told the guy hey I want to hook up you know he would
04:30:52
Morgansay yes totally yeah yeah of course they're both in a relationship I don't think there's boundaries if you're in a relationship you know you're not hanging out with a guy friend alone you're not like late night calling a guy alone but like if your boyfriend or
04:31:04
Morganhusband is also friends with that person like same thing with like you know there's multi-family friendships family friends yeah that's I mean if it's uh I think that's okay but [Music]
04:31:17
Brian Atlasyeah most guys who you would consider to be your friends if you were like hey do you want to hook up assuming they're single right or maybe even if they're in a relationship if you said
04:31:28
Brian Atlashey do you want to hook up they're probably say yes true here do you you have a male friend you want to your male friend what's his name Dylan is he watching right now yeah yeah okay so I was gonna say text him and say hey do
04:31:39
Amberyou want to hook up I think if a guy has an opportunity I think if he had the opportunity that little door like I feel like it is true yeah because the girls put boundaries but man obviously you know
04:31:52
Brian Atlasyou know nine times out of ten is the girlfriend yeah the guy and then the guy is like okay we'll still be your friend yeah and I think there's a there's like a lot
04:32:02
Brian Atlasof male friends that are like they like you and they're just biting they're maybe you're in a relationship they're gonna be there some guys aren't they either
04:32:14
Amberbe straightforward you know like that's on them right you want to waste your time okay then go ahead that's not my problem but it would make it would perhaps make your boyfriend uncomfortable for you to have
04:32:27
Brian Atlasa relationship uh friendship with somebody who like has these ulterior but did he tell me because if he didn't tell me how am I supposed to know what about a gay best friend I
04:32:40
Madisonmean he's got me out I know a lot of like pretty best friends that are like friend best friends with girls like yeah they like kiss and think it's fine yeah I've seen because they're gay
04:32:54
Amberyeah wait what was the thing you said before what did I say I had a response to something but it slipped my mind I said about your friends Dylan I said if you never like
04:33:06
Amberactually if they never tell you like how how would I know like if the guy who's your friend does you can just tell you can just tell every single male friend of yours wants to sleep with you
04:33:16
Brian Atlasokay like but am I gonna let them no no but like if they're if they're secretly like waiting for the opportunity for you to be single it's like
04:33:27
Madisonpretty bad look yeah I mean I don't think but I do think that you like can have like a genuine relationship I think it depends just like depends on the person yeah but
04:33:37
Amberlike very rarely yeah does that happen like my friend Dylan he's so nice he he is really nice I love him this song is great yeah
04:33:48
Elizabethfor me personally like I grew up with older brothers so it's easy for me to like grow a guy you know what I mean they're calling like a brother or brother okay sure so there wouldn't be
04:34:00
Brian Atlasany romantic okay uh we have to wrap up the show guys yes Dylan you son of a is he in the chat Dylan a hostage
04:34:16
Amberguys girls and stuff like that but he has like a whole story and I love stories about like dating because it's so interesting like it was the whole thing like she had like a whole boyfriend like it was just whole thing he didn't know about it like it was the
04:34:28
Brian Atlaswhole thing anyways I love the chat I love that it can mean comments about like the shower only if we take a shower together word okay guys last call hit the like button please on your way out thank you
04:34:41
Brian Atlasfor tuning in tonight you could have been anywhere in the world but you were here with me I appreciate that thank you to everyone who super chats donates and supports nice video 2020. I see you
04:34:52
Brian AtlasEmma marry me James why would I do that okay uh thank you to the panel those of you who showed up uh thank you to our chat mods uh thank you to Britt who is
04:35:04
Brian Atlashelping with timestamps uh any women who want to be on the show DM at whatever any women who are considering a labia play Steve my DMs are open I'll convince you as part of my
04:35:15
Brian Atlasnon-profit organization big labia matter to uh you know not are you considering what oh lady I'm just like Oh I thought you said me
04:35:27
Ali Bobayeah that means but yes you don't know you don't know what the labia place is no let's look at pictures I'm kidding okay no it's not okay
04:35:41
Amberso the schedule for this week oh my God no my body count is not over 30 guys oh body count okay what's your body count go three about the cow okay I grew up Christian I only had my
04:35:54
Amberfirst boyfriend never did anything because then like it was Christian like we were like actually and then the second one I didn't really do anything like because I was still like a Christian then the third one like the third
04:36:04
Brian Atlasboyfriend that I had I did do stuff with and then wait if you count oral sex what does that change things no because I've only had like four boyfriends still three yeah
04:36:21
Brian Atlasmy shower count is two okay okay um uh body count zero next
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Ali BobaI'm gonna be honest with you like be honest I don't really count that like I'd have to sit down and like but it wouldn't take me long but I mean let's count we got time bro sort of
04:36:49
Ali Bobathinking I'm literally thinking I'm being honest here it's fine take your time I have six that think about it I lost my virginity when
04:36:59
Ali BobaI was 18. I was with the guy for three years so makes sense wait how old are you we woke up when we were when I was 22. I'm 26 now
04:37:11
Ali Bobaand then I was in [Music] I don't entertain a lot of men I don't have the time all right okay all I care about is video games six you said you had the count though I
04:37:25
Brian Atlasdon't know yeah because I don't like think hey I this guy tonight let me add it to my list like you know how some like you know what I mean five by three well what the f multiply it by
04:37:32
Brian Atlasthree and that's multiply by three okay uh Sydney Watson okay can we zoom in on her [Music]
04:37:44
Brian Atlas100 oh my God Sydney Dr Sydney Watson you have you have tripled what
04:37:53
Brian Atlasquite a uh quite a lot because she see she has like hair all over her eyes she does that to hide her shame okay Morgan what about you I stand by what I
04:38:05
Morgansaid last podcast and I'm not gonna share and I think and I'm not disclosing but I do think that body count is something that should be discussed in a serious relationship because it does
04:38:15
Morganmatter which is why I don't share okay what
04:38:25
Brian Atlassorry I'm a bit hard of hearing okay there you have it folks okay uh good times good times
04:38:32
Brian Atlassee guys but I I've I gotta I gotta come in here in Madison's defense right she has
04:38:42
Brian Atlasdespite her sworded I'm kidding her swords had passed um she has turned a new Leaf I have she has
04:38:54
Brian Atlasbeen in the long-term relationship with Franklin wait what's it is it short for Franklin isn't he no his name on like his name is just Frankie not even
04:39:05
Brian AtlasFrankie yay she is committed to Frankie she is she has seen the light yes she is she's on the new path of
04:39:18
Brian Atlasrighteousness and do it dignity and Grace appreciate you Nick okay
04:39:30
Brian Atlasas far as me as a man of God I do not share my body count okay all right guys so the schedule for next week the schedule for next week or sorry this
04:39:42
Brian Atlasweek we are doing a show on Thursday and Tuesday so we're doing three shows this week uh Tuesday is uh 5 p.m assuming we don't have any hiccups with our
04:39:53
Brian Atlaspre-pre-show uh should be live at 5 p.m I know we started late today although lately guys I don't know if you we've been pretty good with starting like pretty much on time uh for what the past
04:40:04
Brian Atlasmonth or two I think it's been really consistent we're starting on you know we used to be like 10 15 20 30 minutes late a lot of time but now we're pretty good
04:40:14
Brian Atlaswith it uh so Tuesday 5 p.m Thursday we're gonna do 7 P.M uh Thursday show we have a very very very special guest
04:40:24
Brian Atlascoming very big guest coming arguably our biggest guest ever no way potentially I'm gonna I don't want to reveal it because I don't know I don't want anything to throw you know
04:40:37
Brian Atlassomehow interfere with that but be sure to tune in Tuesday tune in Thursday we'll see you then guys we will see you next time thanks for tuning in tonight good night guys and uh