She Is "Single" But STILL Hooks Up With Her TOXIC Ex?! | Dating Talk #96

Date: 2023-09-04

Duration: 4h 40m

Guests

Brian Atlas

KKiki (co-host DT126)>

EElizabeth (DT96)>

MMorgan (DT143)>

MMadison (SBCC)>

Identified Speakers

SPEAKER_03Elizabeth(guest)

SPEAKER_04Amber(guest)

SPEAKER_05Ali Boba(guest)

SPEAKER_06Madison(guest)

SPEAKER_07Morgan(guest)

SPEAKER_08Dr Sydney Watson(host)

SPEAKER_09Brian Atlas(host)

Key Moments

RelationshipElizabeth reveals she considers herself in a committed relationship with a German TikToker (~12M followers) she has never met in person or spoken to by phone after 2 months of communicating only via Instagram stories.

“I call it that because trust... we're both so busy”

ControversyAmber reveals her toxic ex-boyfriend (33yo) drove her to the show and she has been hanging out with him twice a week despite claiming to be 'single' for 2 months.

“he drove me here... twice a week”

Key MomentAli reveals her ex-boyfriend from her 3-year relationship (age 18-21) turned out to be gay/bisexual.

“he actually ended up being gay”

QuoteBrian asks Amber what she did wrong in the relationship; she says she was too clingy and gave the 33yo ex rent-free housing for 3 months at age 21 while he saved for a car.

“I told him to live with me for three months rent free”

OtherViewer poll: 66% voted that Amber will get back together with her toxic ex (804 total votes).

“yes 66... 34 no”

Key MomentAli describes discovering male sex toys (butt plug, male lingerie) in ex's drawer and then hacking his Snapchat to find photos of other men, confirming his homosexuality.

“I saw a bunch of sex toys... a butt plug in there... male lingerie”

Key MomentMadison shares that her father appeared on a prior Whatever podcast episode and they are no longer on speaking terms after the episode aired.

“after the show went out we didn't really appreciate kind of the things that each of us shared so we're not really on talking terms anymore”

QuoteAli states her traditional values: once she becomes a wife, her husband is her leader, she will wake at 4am to make him breakfast, handle all household/childcare duties.

“as soon as I become a wife I am my husband is my leader... if he's getting up in the morning to go to work I'm getting up at 4am to make sure he has a hot breakfast”

Topics Discussed

Guest introductions and relationship statuses

Brian introduces guests. Ali: single by choice, LA streamer. Elizabeth: single 24 years, messaging online-only German TikToker 'boyfriend'. Amber: 'single' 2 months, still seeing toxic ex. Morgan: purposefully single, focusing on God. Madison: in 1-year relationship with Frankie.

Therapy, mental health, religion vs. therapy

Amber goes to therapy; finds it helpful for addressing toxic relationship patterns linked to father's alcoholism. Morgan is anti-therapy; prefers biblical counsel. Group debates whether therapy prescribes too many medications and what generational mental health decline looks like.

Elizabeth's online-only 'relationship' with German TikToker

Elizabeth considers herself in a relationship with a ~12M-follower German TikToker she has never met, spoken to by phone, or FaceTimed. Communicated only via Instagram stories for 2 months. Brian is skeptical the TikToker is loyal; Elizabeth won't accept the suggestion.

Amber's toxic on-and-off relationship

Amber (22) has been 'single' 2 months but hangs out with her 33yo toxic ex twice a week. Ex moved in rent-free, broke her phone, threw makeup out window, used verbal abuse. Ex drove her to the show. Brian and panel discuss trauma bonding, addiction metaphor, and why she won't cut contact. Poll: 66% of chat thinks she gets back with him.

Ali's 3-year relationship with gay/bisexual ex

Ali dated a man age 18-21 who turned out to be gay/bisexual. Discovered male sex toys (butt plug, male lingerie). Confirmed by hacking his Snapchat while he was at work — found photos of other men. He came out after they broke up. She was blindsided but grateful for the lesson.

Penis size and sexual compatibility

Amber raises question of penis size mattering in marriage if saving yourself. Morgan argues intimacy can be learned together. Brian says body count and experience can be parallel — both can require learning. Group mostly agrees size is secondary to emotional connection.

Age gaps in dating

Discussion on acceptable age gaps. Madison: up to 5 years older. Morgan: up to 4 years older (28 max). Elizabeth: prefers within 5 years. Ali: prefers slightly older once emotionally ready to settle. Brian jokes about passport bros and dating younger women.

Hookup culture, waiting to have sex, body count

Morgan argues women should hold out as long as possible; saving yourself for marriage is ideal. Madison: hooked up with Frankie the first time they hung out alone. Ali: requires mutual exclusivity before sex; never had a one-night stand; body count 6. Elizabeth: virgin. Amber: waited 4th-5th date. Brian: prefers continuity over one-night stands but ok with ~3rd date.

Traditional values and marriage

Ali describes traditional values: husband as head of household, wife manages home/children, wakes at 4am to make breakfast. Morgan agrees: dating intentionally for marriage, engaged in 1-1.5 years. Brian jokes about becoming a monk (celibate). Discussion on sex within marriage and sexual compatibility.

Self-ratings round

Ali: 10/10 ('Latina Queen'). Elizabeth: 7/10. Brian: 8/10. Dr Sydney Watson: 10/10. Amber and Morgan declined to give number on air.

Immigration debate

Brief end-of-show discussion on illegal immigration. Morgan (part Filipino) says come legally. Ali shares grandmother's story — forced into a brothel at 8 years old, immigrated to escape. Brian jokes about dating illegal immigrants for citizenship. Tabled for a future episode.

Male friends and female friend groups

Brian argues most male 'friends' of women want to sleep with them. Amber has male friend Dylan who was watching the show. Morgan says boundaries are key in mixed friendships. Elizabeth: grew up with older brothers, easier to friend-zone men.

Body count reveal

Ali: 6. Elizabeth: 0 (virgin). Amber: 3. Morgan: declined to share. Madison: implied low. Sydney Watson (co-host) drew laughs with a high implied count. Brian: did not share.

Transcript

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Ali Bobathat if he's financially supporting me and he's taking care of me sure done but what kind of men are you attracting by posting photos like that yeah but I don't date anybody from Instagram

MorganI don't I refuse I will never date anybody that has but wouldn't you want a man to find you attractive for your own just personality and who you are and you know because I feel like that's almost like counterintuitive as you want a

Morgantraditional man right yeah I used to post bikini pictures on my Instagram now they're completely scrubbed because it's like I know that that's not the attention that I want to attract and it's a man is seeing me on the internet that I want them to know like that is authentically me instead of having you

Elizabethknow because it's very easy shirt you know you're on vacation you want to post it you want to create a different way right especially through social media but people out there you know you don't have to put women don't have to put out just for you to get tips and money you

Ali Bobaknow yeah totally but that's just like I said it's just that's me I'm I'm a fitness girl I was a raver girl like you know I never really took Instagram seriously until I started streaming and like that was a way to promote it but on stream and stuff like you know it's like

Ali Bobait's like you know for their gaming we're sex cells yeah I mean it does I'm gonna be honest it does you'll make more money exactly what you have on exactly but I also feel like I said if I were to meet somebody it's probably going to be somebody that I meet on the street or

Ali Bobathrough a mutual or through a family friend I just don't think social like especially like you said what kind of man am I attracting that looks at me like that but like okay let's say you meet that guy in that organic way and

Brian Atlashe's a traditional guy isn't he eventually going to find like yeah find your Instagram or you'll tell them your Instagram and yeah and some guys like

Ali Bobafrom my experience they are cool with it and some aren't and I like I said I respect like their opinion you know just like as if like I was dating someone and they did something I didn't like in a relationship would you take those down

Morganlike if you were just dating a guy and you weren't married he's not financially supporting you you're just in a relationship out of respect for him if he was like Hey like you're a traditional I'm traditional like I don't want you know my girlfriend on the Internet Posting like this if you

Elizabethrespect that probably no because like you said yeah I wouldn't she's into the guy supporting her like 100 yeah yeah but what if he has the traditional talities it's like tough because I I don't think that can be traditional if

Ali Bobayou can't financially support me yeah but if it was like a time yeah yeah yeah yeah but before marriage yeah um I mean even dating like I've dated guys have taken care of me like and it wasn't a problem and this is before I

Ali Bobastarted streaming and doing like social media as a job now that I'm in it and I'm like in it like full force and stuff I Pro like I said that's probably why I don't want a relationship right now because I'm just trying to make my money and yeah yeah do it while I can while I look like this because I'm gonna be

Ali Bobahonest it's really gonna look like this forever yeah like yeah focus on yourself first and build a brand you know like I said what are you building a brand based off of your life right now yeah looks um but it's just like I said I don't really

Morganuse Instagram that much um my my thing is more just like like gaming like if like I said like I like to post more like silly clips of me doing stupid like you know like raging and stuff I mean I think you could still make the money arguably with

Morganwithout having to post or without having to oh and I totally and a guy who you know wants to date you who actually respects you for who you are out of respect for you it also asks that you remove them you know yeah because it's

Morganlike they're not it's not only you respecting yourself and being and I won't even say like fully modest you know like yeah there's nothing wrong if you're like wearing a bikini out and like posting a photo yeah but it's like the way in which a woman posts a photo that's attracting that like you know

Morgannegative attention and I think if a man is like hey you know I really don't want you posting like this on the internet like I want you to respect your own body and I respect you for that too um it'll go back to like she said it's a

Amberbrand right now like she's definitely a leader yeah like you said yeah it's like you're gonna what get rid of it later yeah she's gonna like Rebrand like when she finds you know she wants to be stable she's gonna like you know why not build the brand off of who you actually

Ali Bobaare because I don't I'm gonna be honest with you just for personal reasons I'm sure you know streaming is really dangerous I've gotten docs before um and for protection of my family and everything I there's certain things I don't share I don't even use my real

Ali Bobaname um and it's because like I said it's different on gaming because gaming it's like there's a lot of people that genuinely like don't leave their house and they're parasocial and it gets scary so I choose to represent present myself

Elizabethon social media a certain way but that is not me that's not Ally I I like don't like like I like to keep my personal life completely separate from social media yeah but don't you think it might be it's going to link so yeah because I

Brian Atlasbelieve it's going to link yeah but I will definitely find out yeah so I mean you might be prepared to take it down once the guy starts financially providing for you but do you think it

Brian Atlascan be it could be a hindrance to that sort of guy who's prepared to be that provider totally he's like might look at your Instagram and say well this girl's

Amberposting these kind of photos she's not traditional Ergo I'm not I'm not gonna even get involved with her or I'm just not going to give her the traditional treatment totally I think it goes back to like him knowing her obviously they're gonna go on dance and knowing

Amberyou and that's what I've been probably by then and be like you know what she's doing a brand and like doing it's not gonna be forever that's not she doesn't like that you know she doesn't like that um she's just doing it for the brand because you don't pay my bills you don't

Brian Atlaspay my rent I have to do it you know somehow because you weren't there when you you were gonna pay my bills I mean if if anyone could just use that argument someone could say I had to prostitute to pay my bills and yeah

Morganexactly it's kind of like the feminist only fans mentality in a sense like I know you're not you're not physically selling you know your body on only fans right yeah but you're still putting out

Morganin a way that is encouraging the over sexualized Society because we we live in a very over sexualized Society sex cells but you're encouraging that to where your viewers are it gets it's almost

Brian Atlascounterintuitive yeah well compare I mean it's low on the totem pole comparatively right like posting bikini pics and kind of provocative or revealing photos it's not as bad as for

Brian Atlasexample like if you're shooting boy girl content totally totally yeah but like there is still like a subset of men who's gonna be like um but I also think there's it's the way in which a woman also posts on the internet

Morganbecause there's like very more like respectful poses like a woman could do you know if it's interesting in a bikini you know there's ways on which it will look more Classy versus like hey I'm

Brian Atlasshowing off my body I have one more photo to pull up from wait can you go back to the tagged Instagram I think

Ali Bobajust people's opinion like whatever you want to do like it's up to them also too I feel like if a guy really is like I'm not gonna do because your Instagram photos no offense like I don't want a day to go like that yeah like you're a bozo like I like businessmen I like businessmen that are on their phone all

Brian Atlasthe time and wait what does that have to do with you posting bikini feathers and what well you said you like to date business man what does it something I'm just saying what does this man have to do with a businessman's not going on Instagram and worrying about what I'm

Ali Bobadoing you're like ducking behind them so it's money I feel like you'd be worried about how you present yourself when it comes to a guy not even money just stability like because I'm gonna be honest I come from a well-off family

Morganyou're you're hiding behind me I need you to there we go better but would a guy of that high value and that stature necessarily you know it's like oh hey it's like can I see your girl's Instagram I want to see her yeah would

Elizabethhe want to show that off um I've been in a relationship with guys like a hype man he's like this is not a girl she's sexy sometimes that's a thing yeah I usually ask my partners not to share that

Ali BobaI usually do and I'm gonna be honest like I don't date guys in the industry I don't I just don't I don't like to I don't date athletes they're all cheaters in my opinion so it's just you know I like a normal guy who usually is just like oh cool she does this on the side

Ali Bobabecause I'm gonna be honest with you once I do fall in love and I like I said I'm at that point in my life where I'm like okay this is the one I'll give up everything and like I said devote my life and time to becoming a mom and a wife that's like the ultimate goal wait

Brian Atlasyou don't date athletes she thinks that experience did you oh I don't like I just uh yeah I was just huh NFL uh NBA NBA player

AmberI've never met a man that didn't cheat in the NBA yep you've met NBA players no I've had a lot of friends that like have dated yeah NBA players and I'm like they took her private jets like the Yachts or

Amberwhatever yep but temptation is everywhere you know I think those guys are very tempted man is as Loyals as his options true so if a man wants it he wants that woman

Brian Atlasand he will stay loyal to that woman but if he doesn't want that woman then he won't wait who here has uh had an offer from a guy to be flown out somewhere either flown out to Vegas Miami whatever maybe I mean everybody

Brian Atlasyeah Morgan I haven't even offered to I have yeah I said no uh have any of you taken up the flown out offer no no I have no

Ali Bobayou took it yeah but it was the offer it was very respectful and he actually was like this multi like super like investor guy and it was a really it was just for a date he just flew me for a date and

Brian Atlasthat was it and he flew me back home and that was it and just didn't work out you never saw him again um he just wanted a little something more serious than I wanted honestly wait but you you literally just said that you

Brian Atlaswant to get married and have kids and yeah but this was like a year ago wait you keep ducking here I need you to scoot your mic to your right all right just no you're tilting I need you to just scoot it that

Brian Atlasway because you keep hiding behind them sorry it's okay also if you if you try to speak to me that instead of speaking to Morgan okay sorry I know I'm like that'll help I'm such an eye contact person um

Brian Atlasso okay you had a where did he fly you out to um we just went to Dallas okay it's Dallas athlete no investor guy money business guy okay um

Amberyou didn't take any of the offers no because I I'm scared I'm scared of like I don't know those people you know I need to get to know you first before I go to like an unknown location with you yeah like when someone offers something it kind of scares me to clarify we

Brian Atlasdidn't FaceTime before multiple times yeah it wasn't like yeah no yeah I wouldn't just go on a plane yeah with a stranger so but you've moved in circles with NBA players no I've never ride oh just your

Brian Atlasfriends yeah my friends and you've moved in circles with athletes and musicians and actors and just athletes I've dated you've dated athletes yeah

Ali Bobaone baseball player and one NBA player and both of them were cheated no they're just not um one of them I found out ended up having a freaking girlfriend oh

Ali Bobayeah but thank like I said because he was just oh those are they're terrible and she messaged me one time and she was like hey I think you're dating my boyfriend and I was like oh

Ali Bobaman oh great yeah and that was the baseball player I speak yeah and then I tried talking to another athlete that my friend actually knew because he did training camp with him and he was like

Ali Bobaoh he hyped him up for me like he's such a great guy he was terrible terrible yeah just it's the alcohol for me like I just can't be around the partying and all that constantly yeah

Ali Bobabut you can Rave sober oh okay like you don't have to go to race yeah I love that I love being sober going to bars yeah sober survive it's all fun I mean I can't go to night club because it's so boring me

MadisonI don't drink or anything like that so I'm just saying either like wow this is an interesting panel I like this social level that your drunk friends are when you are at like yeah I just don't

Brian Atlaswant to like I do me too I feel like so I'd rather stay at home wait so is everybody here sober besides alcoholic Madison over here just kidding Madison okay you have to I'm kidding Madison I like

Ali Bobawine and I smoke weed but that's it oh yeah wait actually there's a video of you hold on yeah hello I cannot dab I'm like a Dabber I can't oh my God I don't know that's like the

Amberone thing I like can you guys criticize my Instagram too I would love feedback no no oh it's in the tagged just go to go the tagged are you talking about the one of

Brian Atlasme smoking the blunt scroll down scroll down scroll down yeah that there it is next to the Rave stuff that was for a week oh wait wait wait actually never mind never mind we can't we can't oh yeah you can't we can't show her doing that yeah

Brian Atlaswell that was the other thing I was gonna ask like yeah interesting this isn't like getting do you still baked out of your minds on weed is that traditional traditional no no is it

Ali Bobatraditional to just like it um I don't smoke all day like that's terrible to me because I like to be functional I smoke no no definitely not I just dab at night for my like when that's my content I like dab and get

Brian Atlasreally mad at people and you get mad at people oh yeah like the toxico thing yeah listen if we're gonna get married okay yeah

Ali Bobathe most that you can maybe occasionally a glass of wine but you're maybe you can have tea yeah oh when I have kids I'm not smoking absolutely not yeah

Elizabethare you gonna pay her bills in rent I mean I don't think we can have a minivan and I'll put you up in my shed I don't think I've been sitting in my backyard you can camp out there

Brian Atlasbecause I don't believe in sharing a pepper I think the girls bunk beds

Ali BobaI also should have like a sep your wife should have a separate room oh my God because she's like well you know you're gonna snore do you snore yeah no I don't I'm the most quiet sleeper ever I fall asleep in Discord every night they say I'm like them like a

Ali Bobamouse I'm just so quiet wait you do sleeping streams like no I've never done a sleeping stream but I'll fall asleep to my friends like we're nerds we'll just be playing until like 5am wait you keep hiding behind the mic I'm sorry

Elizabethscoot scoot the mic this way and then move it tilted towards you sorry and then just freeze like straight back and

Ali Bobadon't slouch yeah there you go there you go awesome sorry I'm in a gamer position oh yeah I definitely think separate bedrooms is the way to go well you know Jewish culture they don't sleep in the

Ali Bobasame bedroom only on their period when a woman's on yeah that's like Orthodox yeah okay I mean

Elizabethum so wait uh yes everybody are you like taking back your proposal Bros

MorganMormonism separate houses you can have like five wives different houses you know at that point yeah actually let's pull up for tick tock

Ali Bobaa little bit mean on Tick Tock but that's just content it's just content okay

Elizabeththe incoming Stitch one video tag is like a word of acting but then um you're portraying a different character yeah

Brian Atlasyeah that's actually no put it up one nope nope play the the second one

Ali Bobait's not the same thing as a man liking another girl's picture but I'm not gonna lie this kind of like pisses me off and I'm gonna tell you why I hate how like dating has become like so one-sided

Ali Bobabecause I'm like used to dating somebody and giving them like the equal respect that they give me so for example if I ask my man to unfollow let's say an Instagram model who happens to post a

Ali Bobalittle bit more you know over-the-top photos or whatever it may be showing off their body Etc I think it's only right for me as a woman that's you know trying to respect my man if he's respecting me

Ali Bobaby unfollowing these girls what gives it a right for me to be allowed to post let's say over the top photos of me showing my body I just think it's like a double standard and I think it's really annoying how these women try to be like oh women power like all that but

Ali Bobait's like you're literally preaching the opposite relationships should probably be like X X Out X out of that now the

SPEAKER_01Tick Tock that you posted just before that one played that one you told me that you won now I don't believe you because the way you got me feeling right now every day

Brian Atlasgirl I wanna see you you told me that you wasn't enough so the the camera angle right so you have your cell phone yeah and it's like it's a tick tock Trend

Brian Atlasit's like you know wait I'm trying to get this it's kind of like here's my ass well I know what I'm doing but like how do you go from that Tick Tock to what you said you know

Ali Bobawhat I mean you know what I mean the point of that Tick Tock if you watch the video before it's a girl saying she's pretty much saying that if I if I tell my mana and follow a picture of a girl in a bikini I still can post one which I think is stupid as like your ass

Ali Bobayou're being hypocritical at that like that's so no I know I know yeah yeah but like I said again if I were to later down the life meet a man he's like don't post that cool but like I said I'm only

Ali Bobadoing content and doing this stuff right now while it I can because I don't want to do this forever I don't want to be like you know doing this don't you ever think you want to find something that you're passionate about and then you

Morgancould do it for like the rest of your life I have not like a side job not all of us can launder money okay I just don't know how you can justify being

Morgantraditional but then actively posting things that are not not promiscuous just yeah I know seeking the attention like it you're like gotta be honest yeah those kinds of videos they're a man's

Morgangonna and gonna like that same thing with Instagram same thing with bikini photos so how can you claim okay I'm traditional I want all these great things but then still seek that and I know it's like you're saying it's your

Morgancharacter and it's just content but the thing is like that content lives forever that's still who you are but it's not that's not a second person like that's still you still content that's you that's the image that everyone is going

Ali Bobato have right and so how and I think that determines from and this is I think the problem with social media these days is people base their entire identity and life off social media to justify themselves or validate themselves I

Ali Bobaliterally look at social media I'm gonna be honest with you with money like hello I'm in this business I'm a businesswoman I'm gonna do it while I can and it's just like I'm gonna do it well like I said while I can right now but wouldn't you rather make money in a more glorifying way to your own I have I have

Morganpeople's examples yeah yeah yeah no yeah no I haven't I mean yeah yeah getting in debt for like why do women also put out on the on the internet to make money

Elizabethlike my whole family were all within like the medical field like my uncle for eight years dermatologists I have dentists my cousins are done you can go to cosmetology school for nine months my

Morganbrother hairdresser you I mean on social media even yeah you don't have to the point is you don't have to sell your body on the internet to make money yes I think women have been lied to that it's like oh it's super glorifying this is

Morganwomen's empowerment of like actually no you can post your body be super promiscuous and this is way more desirable and because but then you're seeking the opposite negative attention of a man and I mean women also it's like male validation you know women love

Morganattention like that's just a fact no matter who you are women love attention and so it's like are you seeking out that negative attention from men not you but yeah like are women seeking out the negative attention from Men by posting

Morganon the internet yes if a girl says no they're lying and it's like no you don't have to do that to make money and but it's been so normalized oh it's so easy sell your body on only fans you know

Morganmake more provocative tick tocks and you can now make money on Tick Tock you make money on Instagram make money on streaming simply but I mean even like the tick tock NPC trend and like that is very over sexualized with women that are

Brian Atlasdoing it you know actually Madison we had our first Madison NPC but it's not

Morganlike sexual yeah well it's not oh sexual right but the viewers do yes do

Madisonthey to the yeah to the to the NPC girls they do oh yeah okay 100.

Brian Atlasum okay so I think the the sticking point for us because you in your pre-show messages and I think during the show you said that you're traditional that you have old school values

Brian Atlasum you said that your very old school view when it comes to your to dating yeah but like if you look at like the Instagram for example you know there's lingerie photos bikini photos ass photos

Brian AtlasRave attire uh blunt smoking was it blunt or was it a bong I don't know like that doesn't strike me as a epitome of true traditional yeah yeah but you know what's so funny when I go on dates

Ali Bobaand let's say they do know what I do they meet me in person they're like holy like you were so the opposite of what I thought you were gonna be and I love that you know I like them people your personality like what you're looking for in a man like the way you

Brian Atlasmove in a relationship it I'll give you that it's a complete it may very well be traditional but what I would argue is I don't think you can there may be some

Brian Atlastraditional things about you but I don't think you can just blanket say that you are traditional or that you do have fully across the board old school values because some of these things seem

Brian Atlasnegotiable with you like just based off the pictures you're posting them smoking is it a blunt bomb it's a joint yeah joint

Brian Atlasagain it doesn't your public facing your public-facing presentation doesn't strike me as traditional yeah you could uh even have Traditional Values but a

Morganpart of being a traditional person is also living out that life you know like a majority sorry yeah no I'm just gonna say like back when I was in college I posted bikini photos I was drinking you know I used to smoke weed but then once

MorganI was like no I'm going to live a traditional life because that's also what I want to attract is I want a traditional man yeah well okay I'm not gonna post a bikini photo I'm not gonna drink anymore I'm not gonna do these certain things and as I progress in life

Morganso it's like you can have Traditional Values but that of being a traditional person it looks different when you live out that life yeah yeah you had something uh but didn't she say she doesn't want to date someone traditional

Amberright now because she's getting her bag and then later on she's gonna like you know actually delete all the stuff like you did you know like you had a past that it was bad and you change it because you want to be a different way

Amberand that's still valid you know like if people change people change you know like um people have passed so you actually know that you want to change so why not why not try a different

Ali Bobathe gaming is like sorry go ahead look it's okay no no continue um no the gaming thing was like you know like I said it's a passion that's truly like what I love to do yeah but obviously like hello it's a business how you know

Brian AtlasI'm thinking business yeah business standpoint wait you're on kicker I was on Twitch I was on Twitch for a year and then um I went to kick okay okay all right

Madisonum Madison did you I was just gonna add to what say add to what Morgan said but just like I feel like a majority of traditional traditional woman can most definitely put pictures of like that for

Brian Atlastheir body online to gain money but keep to their values so they don't do that yeah but okay part of like you could argue

Brian Atlaspart of like tradition old school values one of those conditions what it's like reputation or like the way you portray yourself just hold on let me finish

Brian Atlasokay one of the traditional things or an old school value is Modesty that is a traditional value okay yeah definitely not modest yeah definitely

Brian Atlasyou know but that's like me claiming I'm a virgin but I I slept with 30 people you know what I mean like how do you claim it you did you have more on this that you wanted to it sounded like you

Ambermight have had more it just depends like everybody has a past you know like there's probably that guy that was you know wants to be traditional he probably has a path should we forgive people

Ambergets murder obviously not you know like be nice to the murderers give them a chance they're sweet they're sweethearts you're right I'm sorry guys would you date him who here would date a murderer

Madisonno anybody no no if like my if my boyfriend was like protecting me and murdered someone for me then yeah I think that would just be

Amberthat self-defense self-defense yeah people change you know their passes their past and like it's the person who they are now and who they're showing let me ask you a question though who believes that here at the table your

Brian Atlaspast is your past you shouldn't you shouldn't be judged on your past if they've actively repented and changed their entire lifestyle then yes question for all the girls here would you date a guy who in his past

Brian Atlasslept with a hundred different prostitutes he doesn't anymore he hasn't in three years but he previously had was sex addicts sleeping with prostitutes

Morganslept with a hundred me personally no but I know he's repented within that relationship that you have with someone and you discuss your past and you discuss what you want stuff like

Amberthat's up to that relationship that's up to you it's about to everybody has a different opinion it's also like an extreme yeah I feel like that's like let's just say

Morganlike a man an only fan there's a lot you know like it's so normal that's kind of gay I don't know any streets I don't do Straight you guys have only fans they do

Amberwell but I honestly think questions yes questions anybody that takes a day I mean it's a less risky than him saying like 100 prostitutes like what you know like it's a lot like that's

Brian Atlasstupid I feel like that's like the normal yeah for me wait going to you Amber in your pre-show notes to us you said that you

Brian AtlasI don't know if it's two different people you mentioned something about a spiritual boy is that the current guy you're seeing no that's the guy that when I broke up with

Ambermy toxic boyfriend I met this guy from mutual friends like I used to my old boss he's friends with him um and it's crazy because I didn't know

Amberthere was spiritual you know like f boys like I was like what like their spirit it's crazy to me because it's like he seems like a really nice like you know you would expect spiritual people to be like okay you know what like I want with

Ambermy soul mate I don't want to like you know and they're not gonna play games with you right no they will

SPEAKER_00we need to recognize how badass she is everyone put W medicine in the chat she can hear so much that the viewers don't see we love you Madison heard a man she was just behind

Madisonthe uh scene right there she's coming back yo Brandon you're gonna say something she's hungry

Brian Atlasdo you guys want to send Brandon a kiss yeah into this camera right here okay um okay that was I'm sorry that was cringe okay let's do it that was so cringe uh

Amberspiritual fuckboy so like heart chakras Stones so this guy has done you know Ayahuasca he's done it four times and you told me he's like I don't feel even therapy because like I do Ayahuasca

Amberand I do crystals um crystals yeah Crystal's a guy the way this house oh my it was like crazy to me you enter his house above the fireplace there's a like

Ambera lion that has so many colors because they have like this UV light that shines into it um one time I went to his party and he had like a bowl of shrooms just casually

Amberlike people could just do shrooms however they want you go ahead you know and mushrooms his kitchen was yellow okay was he like witchy like what did he

Amberbelieve in he believed that you can get cured with like Ayahuasca and the spiritual and like going to The Burning Man and

Amberspiritual spiritual sure I was like okay okay he was like tell me all this stuff and you know obviously like I'm stupid and I fell for it like he was like yeah I'm a Christian he had

Amberlike a little like at least you're self-aware what you can wear a cross that doesn't mean anything exactly and yeah and the way that he just like portrayed himself was so different like

Amberhe just lied though like if your spiritual stuff like that he lied about he's like I was like um where oh he's like yeah I have a Tesla but my brother's borrowing it so he's using his mentors Tesla and I'm like if

Amberyou need a car then why don't you ask your brother to give your Tesla back he just portrayed like he was like this crypto guy that was like you know like oh my God like I have all this money I'm like an investor whatever and I was like

Brian Atlasokay where's your money he's like oh I put it all in crypto like it's only Bitcoin okay question for you so you said this was after you broke up with your current X yeah so this was within the

Morganpast two months yes you were involved with the spiritual boy yes did you also the other what did you sleep together how long did it last Ed at last probably like a month after I

Amberfigure out like he was like no but you didn't sleep don't talk the question did you guys hook up no like I was like I couldn't believe that

Amberyou hung out just one time no no no we we hung up like it was like Max like three times like two times and he like third date and I was like this is weird of me be

Brian Atlashonest you guys hooked up come on no I ghosted him okay after you hooked up no come on no third base a little blowy action a little blowy no

Amberno blowy she said no zero blowies no I know where did y'all meet we did shower together though bro you're so full of you are so full of you showered together naked

Brian Atlason Iowa did you guys take Ayahuasca no I love it I love how open and honest she broke up with the guy two months ago yeah and then you met up with this dude

Amberbecause I really thought this a couple of times yeah I really thought this guys was like a really nice guy like he really said like you know what like I'm a traditional man like I really want to provide for my family he kept saying like oh you you would be such a good

Amberwife like I want you to have my kids did your current guy that you're like toxic X slash not exactly yeah I told him the truth I was honest you know I was honest with him like you know why I did that and it was

Ambera mistake you know because I figured out that he was just weird like he didn't text me for four days like you know he wasn't consistent like he was just like so

Amberweird I'm like I'm so confused and there was like this part where like he just like he was so inconsistent like one time I hanged out with him at a mall and we were just talking but we were talking we

Amberweren't even like he wasn't even making eye contact with me he was looking at other people while he was talking to me that's so based just like you're not even worth looking at I'm just gonna and he just randomly he gets up and he's like

AmberI think I'm gonna go hang out with my brother and so funny his brother doesn't answer him and I was like okay we walk to like the Main Street and then he's like okay I'm gonna go hang out with my

Amberfriend I'm like you didn't even tell me like hey like it was a great time blah blah blah like he just like you know what I was unbothered I was like okay bye and I just walked off wait so okay

Brian Atlashow soon after breaking up with and I put very strong air quotes on breaking up with your toxic ex how soon after breaking up breaking up with him did you

Brian Atlasget involved with spiritual boy it was a month after a month after it's like four weeks ago granted you were still yeah this was like your ex like in

Brian Atlasthe months of like June July okay so you showered with him yeah but you didn't sleep with him under which context would you shower with

Brian Atlassomebody I don't know you him come on be honest no just be honest you're just you just don't want to say you him because you're still in this weird situationship no I didn't with your current why are you showering naked with him

Brian Atlasbecause I can sustain like based sexuality I'm not gonna like but what hold on uh in some Universe I could imagine you guys were at the beach together

Brian Atlasand you showered together for some reason with your trunks he had his trunks on you were in your bikini but you hadn't had sex yet but you were

Brian Atlascomfortable showering naked together because I told him I wasn't gonna do that so as a consolation prize you

Brian Atlasshowered with him naked yeah that would do nothing for for me personally I'd oh I get to shower spiritual people I

Brian Atlasdon't know wow that's great I'd rather just not do that and have a pleasant shower without you stealing all the hot water for real I mean it wasn't stealing

Brian Atlasbecause to be honest he lives rent free so he lives rent-free trying to make a point about the utilities here I'm just

Brian Atlashello okay so um it's more so just like if you're showering with someone it's kind of like yo go in the corner lady I'm trying to shower here he wasn't like that

Amberthough he was like I mean he's 20 like he was he's in his 20s um did you all touch each other wash your hair next to each other were you guys were you guys like the same thing as Christians they rub on each other but when you're wearing clothes

Brian Atlaslike it's the same time are you talking about like Mormon soaking yeah wait did you soak no no he's not Mormon doesn't mean you can't get a little soak

Madisonin the action in okay so it was a don't use the word the Lord is the most he could get from you pretty

Ambermuch no because he actually texted me a couple like weeks ago he's like he's like remember this and he sent me a picture where I was really traumatized like that night and the shower night no no no there was a night where I got

Amberreally high to the point where I cut like getting high I don't want to do weed anymore like I was paranoid like I was so paranoid that I wanted to call the Hops on him because it was a second date you know and I was like oh I want to relax a little bit like let me take

Ambersomething to like because I was having a lot of anxiety um yeah we'd is I mean weed can trigger yeah and I realized that and I was like I don't want to do that anymore like that doesn't work for me like but you ended

Amberup smoking the weed no no it was inevitable like it was like a lollipop I didn't like it was just like yeah you had an edible and then you had a green out is that what it's called yeah and it wasn't the fact that like I was at a

Amberstranger wait hold on you wanted to call the cops because you were freaking the out on weed yeah cause I whenever you're like I couldn't do that yeah like I was freaking out you wanted to call the cops on him yeah because I was so scared that he like kind of you know

Amberlike did something to it I grew feed it like drunk yeah or something yeah like I was scared because it's like this never happens kind of to me like it never happens like I never eat a lot

Amberum not really but when I did I wasn't like that though like I mean that's a thing I mean actually possibly just take too much it could get you like yeah yeah but the way that he handled it was so

Amberscary to me like the fact that like was he well he might I do he probably wasn't if you're still a good person I promise did he take an edible too uh yeah he did

Amberbut obviously because he's used to that like used to doing drugs and stuff like that like you know he could contain it is the second you said you hung out with him three times total correct was it the first second or third time you hung out

Brian Atlaswith him oh second time and then so you went this the second time you're with us the first one was like a movie day are you were you movie date in public um yeah or you went over to Netflix and

Amberchill no no no no second date you went to his place though yes and he got like dinner for me that was really nice like he he had dinner for me like um he we went to the hot tub like I obviously had my bikini he had like his

Brian Atlasswim trunks and we were that's when you showered naked no that was the third date excuse wait the third date was the naked shower yeah you know what guys

Brian Atlasthis all out yeah guys come on so you're my therapist hello this is welcome to the whatever intervention part what I didn't like is like he looked at me in the eyes I'm not joking he's like

Madisonwhat it's okay it's it's you're gonna get over this that's some demonic yeah I was like well he maybe he was trying to that's how spiritual men are though they yeah that's how they try to calm you

Madisondown but I would see how you would take that in a way where you were that's when it like kind of triggers me and like kind of been like oh my God like I'm scared like I was really scared it sounds like you're having like instead of like comforting me instead of being

Amberlike hey like it's okay like hugging me like hey it's fine like petting me no he literally like was in a distance to me and he looked at me when I was on the floor and he's like

Amberit's normal you you know like it's um he like did something to it yeah exactly like that you're supposed to be yeah

Amberyeah like I was scared and afterward he literally like like he forgave me I was like I'm so sorry like I got really like you know like almost like was freaking

Amberout and then afterwards he literally like sent me this whole like paragraph later on getting mad he's like um you could have called the cops like oh my God I could have got ruined my whole career could have like I built

Amberthis from the ground up blah blah and then he sends me a text did you call the cops no I didn't I called my best friend on FaceTime okay because I mean from perhaps at in the moment you had a fear

Amberthat he yeah dude like if you're released the lollipop I guess but it sounds like you're just having an edible like who knows anything yeah instead of like cuddling me or something like that tell me it's okay like let's

Brian Atlasget your clothes ready no dude like he didn't do any of that you were freaking the out weren't you because I this is why I actually don't smoke weed when I was very young I was 17 in high school yeah it was maybe the

Brian Atlasseventh I smoked weed a couple times it was actually fine yeah but then one time I smoked it I don't know if it was a strain or I smoked too much but I freaked the out full-blown panic

Brian Atlasattack I was having um hallucinations like in intense like physical hallucinations and it was weed I don't know what it was in any case

Brian Atlasum having smoked weed since I was 17 whatever uh but like I was freaking the out so I don't think it was laced I just think it was one it was edible and that was probably I don't know yeah

Brian Atlassome people it just happens yeah I've heard I've heard from a lot of people that they have like these strange experiences on weed they have panic attacks yeah you can have I mean it's psychoactive so you can definitely have some weird going on but you

Madisonprobably just had like a panic attack and uh like whenever I agree now I just feel like I'm not myself like you're just like an out of body yeah that's why I don't do that associate I think if you

Amberhave anxiety like that trigger doesn't like that don't even start drugs

Brian Atlasyou have like a anxious personality or you have panic attacks do not smoke weed I know it helps if you do smoke weed you have to know what you can handle yeah

Amberyeah too anyways okay so I don't know if you text me this picture saying like crazy night a picture of when like I did that okay so of you like freaking out like before like when we were like having dinner

Brian Atlaswhen you overdose crazy night right oh my gosh sorry yeah the story is going so despite your distaste for the way he

Brian Atlashandled your freak out when you were on weed you still opted to see him a third time and then shower naked with him well because he said he like actually said like you know what like I

Amberunderstand what like kind of he was like nice to me about it and stuff like that and I was like okay that wasn't whenever he freaked out about like the whole like calling College you could go no he was actually nice at the beginning whenever it happened the day after and then why

Amberdidn't you see him again after the third time what do you mean you said you stopped seeing him no no I stopped seeing him after like the third date like literally what I just said oh

AmberI did or was it a fourth day because it wasn't a day we went to the mall together and we just like hung out to be honest you guys didn't smash no but you showered

Elizabethyeah that's interesting was there like any fondling no zero fondling yeah do you have certain stands you want to call him we can call him

AmberI'm not gonna all this while you were still seeing your current situation no I wasn't seeing him like literally like cold turkey like I actually stopped so I did go cold turkey

Brian Atlaswhy'd you go back why are you tapering I don't stop going back to like because I said toxic but you already lied you lied earlier on in the conversation so now everything that you say is like then why am I fashionable girls do lie or not

Amberquestionable no but earlier you said oh I haven't two months it's been two months I'm sorry but I'm not gonna say it in like my boyfriend you know like we last night pre-recorded like people can come back in the future and

Elizabethbe like yeah what do you mean she's been gradually telling the truth I appreciate it

Brian AtlasI have a chat here we have stochastic Decay stochastic Decay has a question for the panel can each guest name two zodiac signs no repeats two zodiac well there's six people here how many zodiac signs are there what's

Brian Atlasthat what do you what are you Sagittarius I don't know anything about it I'm a tourist but I don't know what that means oh me too I'm a little Taurus with the horns you get the Bulls you know what a lot of people say about it

Madisonyeah apparently Taurus men are you gotta stay at Walmart I'm not like a a zodiac sign girl but

Morganthat's what I eat if a girl believes in zodiac signs run yeah

Brian Atlaslet's just go around this quick hey Aries hey um did you say Leo um I said Taurus tourism yeah

AmberAries okay okay go go go go go go go go Capricorn because I'm a Capricorn and you're such a Capricorn whatever that means whatever that means

Amberum Jupiter Rising I know right and I don't know what's the water sign there's like a water Aries there's something similar to the Aries um

Brian AtlasI don't know like I don't study this okay uh Morgan uh Virgo can you tilt the mic down a bit Sagittarius yes

Brian Atlassorry Perfection Maddie Libra and Cancer

Elizabethokay yeah I wouldn't say Sagittarius I'm the last one this is not fair yeah but seriously zodiac signs or what about

Brian Atlasyou yeah yeah I forgot friends and Jupiter Rising well I'm a Taurus I don't believe in zodiac yeah wait people tell you to stay away from tourists I guess like I don't know I see it on Tick

MadisonTock sometimes but it's always like I thought it was Taurus men are red flags

Madisonyou call yourself a red flag well apparently because I'm a Taurus apparently apparently like a lot of Taurus men just don't bring anything shut the good thing zodiac signs don't matter wait yeah it's a good thing

Ali Bobathey don't matter right yeah yeah I guess I would say I guess you're right Matt I guess Ryan I guess at least

Morgannothing to the table Zodiacs uh no that's like the Greek gods like Zeus yeah that's like what's like astrology right oh astrology

Morganbut that doesn't really correlate with well kind of stars Rising Moon downward Sun sideways duck it is Greek

Brian Atlasmusic I don't believe these things all right I've got a couple questions here let's see we have Elizabeth huh

Brian Atlasum wait okay I gotta check you on this Elizabeth what when miss when yes uh I think you're living a double secret life

Brian Atlasso your parents don't find out a double Secret Lives who someone said that oh not just you because your parents are watching the stream I feel like you're not

Elizabethbeing honest I like to be strict with myself because honestly they raised me a certain way and I actually like to enforce strict rules or boundaries okay for myself

Brian Atlasbecause if it's it feels empowering for me for me self-discipline yeah yeah I have a lot of self-discipline you mentioned in your in your messages to us before the show multiple groups of famous Tick Tock boys and other Tick Tock stars are doing the most to get my

Brian Atlasattention the groups are actually enemies in the entertainment industry they desperately want to be my boyfriend because of the way I view life and they think I'm the perfect girl in quotes most of them look like bad boy players

Brian Atlasand keep in mind I'm still the the Virgin LOL the two does that was you by the way version

Brian Atlaswhat's have you what's the have you gone like third base or nothing like this is it has there been the first kiss what's third base though

Brian Atlaslike floral so when right a man and a woman love each other very much oh Jesus thank you sometimes they kiss each other down there

Elizabethum yeah that that's that thing wait have you ever have you had a kiss I have kissed because also like you have or haven't I have okay an acting cat in acting class because I'm an actress they

Brian Atlasteach you how to do it there they teach you in the acting class how they kiss yep nice I've taken an acting class and I've never had I didn't have to do that in my acting school I did that's why I left this must have been some like front

Madisonhave you only ever kissed people in acting class have you kissed anyone that's it that's it just acting classes yeah as an

Brian Atlasactress yes wait so okay hold on there was acting class but then did you have like a role yeah that's for my role yeah what role in the acting class it was or

Elizabethwas there a TV which is after I told my parents you know they kind of strict with that too we just didn't like I didn't like the acting class at all was it was it in college

Brian Atlasum no it was after college so it was just like a three-week course or something no I was in the acting class for a year what was the

Madisonwas it through like a acting school or why the they don't why would they teach wait what yeah that's they probably have like written

Madisonscripts and make you act them out and there's a kissing scene how many people were in the class Elizabeth um like 30 40. did everybody have to do

Brian Atlasa kissing scene yeah it was no this is why that's weird yo Hollywood is whack yo there's something

Elizabethweird going on in Hollywood oh my gosh my acting class they they teach you everything like they want you to orgasm I know and I signed up for this you want to sign up for this they want you to do

Elizabethit all and then did you so it's like yeah were you a mattress actress I went to class and they're like we're gonna orgasm and then I'm like what's orgasm you know I'm like I don't even know what

Brian Atlasthat is at that time okay I'm like what is this when when a man and a woman loves you I know very much I get it they have a climax pleasure Hollywood

Brian Atlasthat's groomy grooming I was gonna say that's like Hollywood you were how old were you uh let me see maybe like 20. oh okay I thought you're about to I mean so you

Elizabethdon't need to do like that's weird yeah but if this was like it was not yeah and I can't believe I stayed for a year I think I was going on a year and a half oh wow and every single day it was something so they just had

Brian Atlasso like in the class where you just like did dle yourself trying to come like what the it was like air just you and then everyone would watch Wait you'd go on stage and masturbate

Brian Atlaswait like actually doing it or like there's no way you would actually do it or like acting it out this is a culture yes

Brian Atlasit is weird it's the principle I guess like in an acting capacity like an actor could be tasked with in a scene but I feel like that's a very Niche

Morganscene and if you get cast for that role then like you as an actor if you needed to like learn that you could get a separate code and be like hey I have the scene and like I want to do the scene whatever but like an actual clothing appropriate for like an educational

Morgansetting no I'm a classically trained actor worked in L.A when I was a kid yeah theater or film like film film TV commercials and like I was in L.A and it

Elizabethwas like it was like yeah popular acting class in Hollywood school drop the name what's the name of school you want to shame

MorganI'm just gonna leave and just forget this is like Scientology infiltrating Hollywood yeah that's that's like kind of should I drop my name

Brian Atlasit's a public school right like you could they probably have a website that you can go and sign up for I'm curious what was the class name the name of the

Morganplace no why not it's like spicers what was the name of the class like was it specifically like asexual like learning class for like certain scenes

Elizabethor was it just like it was love like it was a group classes yeah that's the one they just did too much like I could I couldn't even this one is the thing that

ElizabethI didn't tell my parents about but I told my mom that I had to really wow inappropriate things that I did not feel comfortable about and they always chose me because they would pick on me because

ElizabethI was the one wow the Virgin I was out of it what you told them that you were a virgin they know I was that's like predatory how did they know that super predatory because they would ask

Morganeveryone and everyone would have these like can also when he do improv they would ask if you were virgin or not yes was it an improv class like what I mean because I mean there's different types of acting classes like did you know

Elizabethgoing into the class Hollywood because like that's just wild um it's just a it's a group class for like anyone can come so like in um

Elizabethbeginner Advanced and intermediate so basically like a free it was the whole class on like sexual experiences yes everyone had sexual experience sexual

Elizabethexperiences and like especially when you did improv and comedy everyone would have sex stories and that was funny for everybody and I was so out of place

Brian Atlasbecause I didn't have any have you seen who here has seen the 40 Year Old Virgin do you know when they're at the poker table and they're like kind of talking about sex and then like the Steve Steve

Brian AtlasCarell is it he's like they're like he's trying to explain his sexual he's a virgin and he's 40. he's trying to explain his sexual experience and he's like yeah she had great tits and they

Brian Atlasand they're like well tell us about the tits and uh he's like yeah they felt like sandbags and they're like anyways I don't know why that just made me think of that but

Morganum yeah that class was iffy I'm glad you're not in it yeah the other day my friends we were talking about sex scenes in Hollywood and how it just like it's so I feel like it's too gross and

Morganlike it's doing too much and how like a movie can easily portray that action without actually doing it because I recently watched a video on like how sex scenes are actually done and the barriers and you're pretty much doing it

Brian Atlasit's like it's not actually oh bag of sand excuse me uh yeah that's like

Morganyeah if oh if you were dating an actress and she was casted in a role to play a sex scene like making out full-on sex scene but there's a thin barrier would

Morganthat be cheating me and my friends were having this debate earlier oh okay would it be cheating yeah you're in a committed relationship you call this she's playing a role that she's in a sex

Brian Atlasscene and making out with another dude and like in a sex scene basically I don't know if it's like cheating but like I would very much not

Madisonlike it and I would ask her not to do it yeah but I still feel like it's cheating I don't know if you're willing to do it yeah for the money like for the job for the role

Morganyou're still willing to do it I don't know if it's cheating in the sense of like what makes so this is what we were talking about because what makes it different it's bad on it's bad on a film you know you're making money so you're playing this role you're making money so

Morganyou're doing it all of a sudden like it's okay to do it then but if you're just like doing it without making money it's like not a role then it's you know I don't know if it's cheating but it's a

Madisonvery it would be a very something it'd be a very undesirable situation because you still have right

Brian Atlasprobably a discussion you have to have to have with your other like significant other yeah something like something some people in the chat say it's cheating I mean it

Brian Atlascould go either way um in any case I would not want my partner to do the scene um whether I would categorize it as cheating

Brian Atlasit's it's I'm leaning towards no but uh I wouldn't want her to do it like people in relationships shouldn't do sex scenes out of respect for your partner yes yeah

Elizabethum yeah but this whole the whole school thing that's so weird that's really weird it's weird right that's super weird it's so weird and the fact that like a single day is the exact same

Brian Atlastopic it's always sexual sexual yes you're not exaggerating I don't want to get you in trouble so you're being you're being like yes 100

Brian Atlaswith okay that's um yeah because it's it sounds like they almost Target like focused on you because you said you told them you were a virgin yes and they're like whoa that's really

Morganwhere we're all degenerate sex addicts no I'm kidding okay you know you know what I mean like yes uh I see what you mean yeah it's a dark world of Hollywood praying after young girls like

Morganyou want to make money in the industry you become actors and like seemingly hey come to this class like this is what you've got to do in the industry yeah but like in a class but like I feel like

Morganit's not normal yeah but I feel like a lot of actor acting classes and like I think a lot of young girls though I mean even 20 like that's a young girl yeah are taken advantage of because they

Brian Atlasfeel like oh well I have to go to this class I have to do this in order to make it an industry but the strange thing is like it wasn't even like in a one-on-one private setting like this is in front of

Madisonwhat 30 other people no it's humiliating shouldn't be legal or legal yeah that's like it was like that for the whole year and a half that you were there yeah they

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